Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Friday, September 26, 2008

Barack Obama and John McCain clashed over the financial crisis and foreign policy in a wide-ranging presidential debate Friday night at the University of Mississippi. The financial crisis initially took center stage with a spirited exchange between the two men. Moderator Jim Lehrer then moved on to foreign policy and national security issues.

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McCain won, I know because I already saw their ad bragging about it.

Oh yea, I just spoke to jesus and he told me that McSame was definately full of shit.

LOL DANNI

Hmmm. Is this a 'flip-flop' on McCain's part?

He stated categorically he wouldn't debate until there was a bailout deal.

I'm glad the debate is going forward in any case.

Whaaa?! ...the debate you say?

Is that tonight?

^_^

Be Well.

Well, I will be watching then, I would not have watched if it was an Obama Townhall.

This thread is just gonna asplode later.

Hey RCade! Better get the Drudge Gerbil some extra kibble and then make sure his water bottle is refilled.

Gonna be a long night.

Be Well.

/Some people wait four years fer the World Cup.
//Some people wait four years fer the Olympic Games.
///Spud freakin' lives fer these debates.
////WOO HOO !!!1!!!!ELEVENTYONE!!11!

Obama in the first round by knockout.

Tell Me something. Had Obama pulled this stunt about suspending His Campaign and trying like mad to postpone this Debate The right wingers would be declaring He is just not experienced enough to be Presidential Material. But since it is their guy who tried to pull this stunt they are making excuses for it. Doesn't this state emphatically that John McCain is all washed up??

Larry

New McCain campaign poster

i447.photobucket.com

The big question is..

Do I order in pizza or chinese?

Vid from Slate.

Great moments from past presidential debates.

www.slatev.com

Be Well.

New McCain campaign poster

FF fer Liberalbadass

^_^

Be Well.

You're correct, Larry.

They would've said he couldn't do two things at once. One thing they couldn't have said about Obama, that he's a doddering old fool. McCain has that one all to himself.

Sneak preview of McCain's first answer:

Ah, but the strawberries! That's, that's where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes, but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt, and with, with geometric logic, that, that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox did exist.

Good on yer, Spud.

FF Nully.

First question!

Who would Jesus give $700 billion to?

Well, it may play well for Jowels McSame. People now have such low expectations of him that any thing even remotely decent by him will be praised by FAUX News as the 'greatest thing ever' on his behalf.

We already know that the press will dub Obama the winner. Why? McCain will offer specifics that can be attacked because he actually takes a position. Obama, who is an intellectual and moral jellyfish, will offer no specifics and offer his usual empty comments such as "I will put a team together to solve this crisis," "I will work with both sides of the aisles to solve this (note: he couldn't do this for the $700B bailout), and the equally empty "We need change."

Pseudo-intellectuals love Barrack Obama so his lack of specifics give the dumb a "fill-in-the-blanks" position so every liberal can feel that Obama represents their view.

(in the debate tonight....echos of the Bentson/Quayle VP debate)

OBAMA: "I knew John McCain. John McCain and I worked together. John McCain was a friend of mine. You, Senator, are no John McCain"

Poor McCain-- as if being nicknamed 'Ol' Yellow Stain' wasn't bad enough. ...


Well, it may play well for Jowels McSame. People now have such low expectations of him that any thing even remotely decent by him will be praised by FAUX News as the 'greatest thing ever' on his behalf.

#18 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

They should hook a monitor to him, just to show he has a pulse.

UTA is already primed for defeat. McCain inspires confidence.

USASTAFF

If you're going to insult a candidate it's probably a good idea to learn how to spell their name....

UTASTAFF

If you're going to insult a candidate it's probably a good idea to learn how to spell their name....

Maybe Obama will tout his dreams to still have Saddam in power in Iraq with his upstanding sons beside him, or maybe Biden's dream to have never fought Desert Storm to liberate Kuwait, you know, after all, this debate is about their glorious foriegn policy expertise! Loss, Obama on this one guys, maybe he'll win the Chicago housing debate next month!

AMERICANUNITY

Republicans hate intellectuals, remember? They shouldn't have to spell.

his dreams to still have Saddam in power

Link please.

Oh wait, you're just talking out of your ass.

his dreams to still have Saddam in power

Link please.

Oh wait, you're just talking out of your ass.

You got to make stuff up because you are intellectually bankrupt. Go watch Sponge Bob.

God job USASTAFF!

No one could never accuse you of being any kind of intellectual that is fer sure!

omg I did it too...UTASTAFF....

"No Drama Obama" versus the drama queen McCain. Should be interesting.

...his dreams to still have Saddam in power in Iraq...

~GBPack

Go watch Sponge Bob.

~LiberalBadass

Ummm, Actually GB's mommy won't let him watch Sponge Bob no more cos she heard that it might turn him gay!

^_^

Be Well.

"OBAMA WINS DEBATE"...Sorry I forgot McCain said that he won.....FUCKING ASSHOLE!!!! Heres what going to happen in the debate 2 hours from now. Obama will be taughtful an MaCain will ATTACK, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT REPUBLICIANS DO THEY DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS POLICY....If Republicans discuss Policy they wouyld not win another election, they must make you feel FEAR at all cost, ........

Hey Celisary the "drinking game" hasn't started yet!

yer cheating!

"Did I already answer that I was a POW yet?"

I propose the following drinking game:

1 drink when McCain says:

a) My friends
b) Maverick
c) Reform

2 drinks when McCain says:

a) POW (or any version thereof)
b) War on terror.
c) Change

3 drinks (or more) when McCain says:

a) Terrorists
b) Lobbyists (keeping them out)
c) Bailout

Darn I forgot the popcorn and I'm not sure I've got enough booze in the house for this debate :)

Don't whine to me facts are facts and them's the fact fellas! Bin Laden would be fully funded with Iraqi oil revenues if your genius Obama were in charge, just ask anyone with common sense. And hopefully someone who also doesn't need foul language to try and give an intelligent perspective.

www.cnn.com

The livestream just got sound!

It begins to begin.

Be Well.

Damn, now it's gone agin.

Be Well.

Darn I forgot the popcorn and I'm not sure I've got enough booze in the house for this debate :)

#38 | Posted by Litlebritdifrnt at 2008-09-26 06:59 PM

you forgot "Change!"

we just have to drink every time one says Change!

But, I better run our for more beer now while I can still walk.

this debate is about their glorious foriegn policy expertise!

#26 | Posted by GBpack at 2008-09-26 06:36 PM

Maybe McCain Will Learn The Difference Between A Sunni And A Shia

Maybe McCain Will Learn Iran Is Not Selling The Sunni Al Queada With Weapons

blog.washingtonpost.com

Maybe McCain Will Know What The Troop Levels Are In Iraq

www.boston.com

Maybe McCain Will Learn Iraq And Pakistan do Not Share A Border

www.crooksandliars.com

Maybe McCain Will Learn Czechoslovakia Has Not Been A Country In 20 Years

www.crooksandliars.com

Maybe McCain Will Learn Spain Is Not In The South American Hemisphere

www.usnews.com

Maybe GBPACK Will Start Talking "Facts" Instead Of Bullshit!

McCain Don't Know Jack!

-Sarge

These astroturfing trolls are getting tiresome.

GBpack

Rick

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Visited 2008/09/26

"Did I already answer that I was a POW yet?"

"You's may gots been some POW, but ya' spent some lot uh time in Congress makin' baaaad decisions."

"I made a lot of good decisions, Hussein. That happens when you have a lot of experience."

"Good decisions fum ya' is usually baaaad, old man. 'S coo', bro. As fo' lots uh 'sperience, hangin' whut 'esactly?"

"I have a lot of foreign experience and you have so little, if any, boy."

"Fo'eign 'espuh'ience? Whut is you rappin' about? We's rappin' about da damn United States uh America. WORD! Not da damn kind'a 'espuh'ience ya' earn while visitin' ports around da damn wo'ld."

"You must be having problems with your teleprompter. Here read mine."

"I wuz some POW. Did ya' know dat?"

www.rinkworks.com

I wuz plum kiddin' around. No offense.

De Constitushun be plum a piece uh sheet. I's gots'ta be real well versed in fo'eign relashuns. ah' live widin some hundred miles uh Russia. WORD!

Bin Laden would be fully funded with Iraqi oil revenues if your genius Obama were in charge

~GeniusBoyPack

Actually, GeniusBoy, the only folks who ever fully funded Bin Laden were Rtards back in the day.

The whole "AQ in Iraq" meme was brought out by rethugs in order to a) Continue confusing people as to the nonexistant link between 9/11 and the Iraq War and B) To deflect from the fact that the Iraqi resistance movement ot the illegal and unjust occupation is mostly homegrown.

Them's the facts

You wouldn't recognise a fact if it bit you on the ass.

FACT!

Be Well.

Tell Me sump'n. Had Obama pulled dis stunt about suspendin' His Campaign and tryin' likes mad t'postpone dis Debate De right win'ers would be declarin' He be plum not 'espuh'ienced enough t'be Super-dudeial Material. But since it be deir dude who tried t'pull dis stunt dey is makin' 'suses fo' it. Man! Duzn't dis state emphatically dat Raz'tus McCain be all wuzhed down??

the cnn link is working again spud!

McCain Don't Know Jack!

~Sarge.

Sir, yes Sir!!

Woo Hoo! Sarge is in the house!

Howdy Man!

Shout out to Li'l Brit as well.

Spud's got some chores to do now, dangit.

Back when it counts.

Be Well.

/Realworld calls, blogworld dissolves, Spud exits
stage left.

The House Republicans have proposed government backed "Insurance" for 'mortgage backed securities'.

EXACTLY the kind of financial instruments like "Credit Default Swaps" securities that created this mess in part.

Ya, let's insure shareholders against losses. Uh, huh.

How about shareholders who lost tons of money in failed banks sue the CEO's and senior management who ran these firms into the ground?

Whut time duz de debate start? ah' have t'get da damn kids t'bed so's I kin comment. Man!

The House GOP want to substitute insurance for the plan already negotiated by the WH, House Dems, and Senate GOP and DEMS.

...just ask anyone with common sense.

I have common sense and disagree totally.

" I'm not sure I've got enough booze in the house for this debate :)"

Posted by Litlebritdifrnt

I am.
i179.photobucket.com

"I am.
i179.photobucket.com"

Don't you always? :)

Sounds like you are already petrified, Petrous.

Hi Spud !

-Sarge

"Don't you always? :)"

Posted by nullifidian

Life is too short to drink cheap whiskey.
Notice that one is unopened.

check this out whilst waiting:

www.youtube.com

Sounds like you are already petrified, Petrous.

#57 | Posted by LiberalBadass

I's gots'ta be plum gettin' eyebally fo' de show tonight. Man! Just makin' sho' man ah' have enough t'drink and eat. Man! It be goin' t'be some long night. Man!

Ooh forgot a few 1 drink when anyone mentions:

a) washington insiders
b) pocketbook (I hate that term, what the fuck is a pocketbook, how about wallet or purse for god sake) sorry got distracted.
c) CEOs
d) greed
e) corruption.

It's going to be a long night :)

I can't listen to that, Bri. She reminds me of my ex-wife when she was caught lying. She had garbled syntax and couldn't complete a sentence.

"Notice that one is unopened."

Excellent pre-debate preparations. You only need some popcorn to throw at the screen.

"I am finally and absolutely convinced. If this dumb puppet gets into office, this talking point-talking head, then The United States would be better off with Vladimir Putin in the White House. I'd rather see Putin be president than this dummy broad."

from a quote from the crazy Palin video:>)lol

"I can't listen to that, Bri. She reminds me of my ex-wife when she was caught lying. She had garbled syntax and couldn't complete a sentence. "

Screechy Sarah sounds like a sack of fighting cats.

www.ahajokes.com

This just in-

Ted Kennedy Hospitalized

www.foxnews.com

Null that's an insult to cats. What got me about the whole Couric interview thing she is being quoted in print as saying "I'll find some and get them back to you" but that looks so much better in print than it was live, live she said "I'll find some and get 'em back to ya" I am guessing when Europe heard that they all about died laughing.

I am guessing that both candidates will say something nice about Ted Kennedy at some point during the debate.

LITLBRIT

She sounded like Frances McDermott in 'Fargo' when she said it....nervously

Palin/McCain = Bullwinkle Moose/Rocky J. Squirrel

Damn !

-Sarge

Madame President, the Russians have launched 5,000 ICBMs, we need the nuclear codes now.

"I'll find some and get 'em back to ya"

Hey Palin

Russia And Alaska Do Not Share A Fucking Border !

Oh She Went Tho The Same Geography School As McCain

-Sarge

Conservatives starting to panic about Palin

Prominent conservatives are finally starting to realize that an unqualified half-term hockey mom from Alaska might not be the best choice to be a 72 year old heartbeat away from the presidency. Here's the brutal roundup.

Kathleen Parker:

It was fun while it lasted.

Palin's recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who Is Clearly Out Of Her League.

No one hates saying that more than I do. Like so many women, I've been pulling for Palin, wishing her the best, hoping she will perform brilliantly. I've also noticed that I watch her interviews with the held breath of an anxious parent, my finger poised over the mute button in case it gets too painful. Unfortunately, it often does. My cringe reflex is exhausted. Palin filibusters. She repeats words, filling space with deadwood. Cut the verbiage and there's not much content there.

www.crooksandliars.com

Palin Is A Moosehead !

-Sarge

"Palin/McCain = Bullwinkle Moose/Rocky J. Squirrel

Damn !
-Sarge

#72 | Posted by Sarge at 2008-09-26 07:42 PM"

B: Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat.

R: Agaaaiiiin? That trick never works.

B: Nothing up my sleeve, PRESTO!

R: Now here's something I hope you'll really like...
- Rocky & Bullwinkle

Almost prophetic, no?

New nickname for Palin via John Cole credited to Tbogg

Biblespice

Henceforth let it be so.

Sarah Palin reminds Me of those brake pad sensors that let You know it's time to change pads. You know that whiney squeal??

Larry

have any of you ever liveblogged one of these?

First question!

Who would Jesus give $700 billion to?

#17 | Posted by donnerboy

Second question:

Brother can you spare a dime?

Hmmm. Is this a 'flip-flop' on McCain's part?

He stated categorically he wouldn't debate until there was a bailout deal.

I'm glad the debate is going forward in any case.

#3 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2008-09-26 06:16 PM | Reply

Hey, Dipshit (notice I capitalized that because it's a proper noun) the bailout deal has collapsed

Brother can you spare a dime?

#80 | Posted by member2586

just a million for my private placement deal will do...

ps I give Rcade a cut of my profits, too!

McCain blinked. Obama didn't.

Hey, Dipshit (notice I capitalized that because it's a proper noun) the bailout deal has collapsed

#81 | Posted by vernon

as it should have...welfare for the elite (whom support McCain in general) is business as usual

FEMALE RON PAUL!

www.youtube.com

Hmmm. Is this a 'flip-flop' on McCain's part?

He stated categorically he wouldn't debate until there was a bailout deal.

I'm glad the debate is going forward in any case.

#3 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2008-09-26 06:16 PM | Reply

Hey, Dipshit (notice I capitalized that because it's a proper noun) the bailout deal has collapsed

#81 | Posted by vernon at 2008-09-26 07:58 PM

Vermin displaying the usual grasp and comprehension the Righties are known for.

Yes VERMIN, it collapsed and he is still debating, therefore a flip-flop could be called.
Understand now Dipshit?

And Vermin, why is McSame so desperatley trying to put off or cancel the VP debate? Please explain.

Oohrah-
If your point is that we shouldn't worry that Palin Presidency is a frightening thought to anyone who actually cares about this country, I'm not sure it's working.

McCain blinked. Obama didn't.

#83 | Posted by BetelG at 2008-09-26 08:02 PM

Yes, Obama did. He ran like a obedient puppy as soon as Bush called him to come join McCain. LOL

" Since (the 1800s), other than assassination, just FDR croaked in office (cerebral hemmorrage). And he was in his fourth term."

And how many were 72 when they took office?

Oh, that's right...none.

Anamerican-
McCain tried to cancel the debate, even saying he wouldn't go until a deal was reached. The Obama campaign basically said, "we can walk and chew gum at the same time; the debate goes on".

A deal has not been reached. McCain will be there.

"Yes, Obama did. He ran like a obedient puppy as soon as Bush called him to come join McCain. LOL"

You sure are a dumbshit.

Oohrah-
If your point is that we shouldn't worry that Palin Presidency is a frightening thought to anyone who actually cares about this country, I'm not sure it's working.

#87 | Posted by BetelG at 2008-09-26 08:16 PM | Reply

After hearing the Palin interview, I must admit that she and Biden are equal - both talk too much and don't know when to stop.

"Yes, Obama did."

FANTASY ALERT!

Simple question:
When McCain said he wouldn't go to the debate unless a deal was done, did he mean he wouldn't go to the debate unless a deal was done, or he'd go to the debate even if a deal wasn't done?

"Yes, Obama did. He ran like a obedient puppy as soon as Bush called him to come join McCain. LOL"

You sure are a dumbshit.

#91 | Posted by nullifidian at 2008-09-26 08:19 PM |

Did he or did he not go to Washington after he said he wasn't going to go to Washington?

Anamerican-
Palin is incompetent, and doesn't say anything when she speaks. Did you actually watch her interview with Couric? It was painful. She's in way over her head.

AnAmerican - I am sure you would be more than happy to say "fuck you" to President Bush if he called and asked you to attend a meeting correct? Particularly if it was a meeting that you suggested holding in the first place right?

Betelg, have you really listened to Biden lately?

Did he or did he not go to Washington after he said he wasn't going to go to Washington?

#94 | Posted by anamerican at 2008-09-26 08:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

When did he say he wasn't going to Washington? What he said was that "we can do both".

Got to love the Right Wingers trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear but lack pockets to piss in nor boots(Mucklucks) to pour it out of. Funny Dat Be.

Larry

Anamerican is trying to conflate the two.

McCain said he wouldn't go to Mississippi, and he's going to Mississippi, which---of course---means Obama said something wrong.

And it looks as if they are doing both.

McCain looks foolish. He blinked.

"Did he or did he not go to Washington after he said he wasn't going to go to Washington?"

No. He didn't say...oh fuck it. Why do I waste time arguing with morons like this.

No, litlebrit, he said he had told leaders in Congress to call him.

Danforth-
Well, obviously, if McCain said he wasn't going to Mississippi, then Obama MUST have said he wasn't going to Washington! LOL
I paraphrase what Obama actually said: We have airplanes. We can fly to Mississippi and then fly back to Washington if we need to.

Re-election fears, payback drove House GOP bailout revolt

Democrats have charged that the House Republicans' revolt against the bipartisan bailout plan was a ploy to help Republican presidential nominee John McCain by giving him a mess to clean up. As it turned out, McCain's high-profile eleventh-hour intervention achieved nothing. Still, the political reality behind the House Republicans' action is much more complicated than the Democrats' charge.

www.mcclatchydc.com

Anamerican-
Where do you get false bullshit like "Did he or did he not go to Washington after he said he wasn't going to go to Washington?" , and where do you get it from?

And why do continue to listen to the purveyors of such obvious nonsense?

Oorah-
Did you watch the interviews Palin did with Gibson and Couric?

If not, you should. She hasn't the slightest clue as to what she's talking about. I actually felt sorry for her, and that's saying alot.

Must go prepare myself for the debate. Enjoy.

"...then I'd contend you'd probably think it more likely for Obama to be offed than McCain."

Jesse Venture thought the same...

www.prisonplanet.com

There Is Fucking 24 Hours In A Damn Day !

This Debate Is 1.5 Hours

They Have Jet Planes To Travel In, Cell Phones, Black Berries, Computers, And Staff.

Oh And Neither Is On ANY Economic Committee In Congress !!

McCain Is Fucking Macbeth

Case Closed !

-Sarge

Greetings Infidels!

--------

#43 | Posted by Sarge at 2008-09-26 07:05

Hey Sarge--
Maybe Obama will have learned something after doing about 12 MOCK debates with some guy talking like McCain.

_______________

Betel--Obama said IF they need him they could call him and he would be anywhere at anytime. But he wasn't going to DC.

Then he got the call from Bush--telling him to come to DC. Obama got on a plane right away like a good little snot should.

So what are the rules of the 101 drinking game?

"fter Barack Obama and John McCain stop talking on the debate stage Friday night, their surrogates will start spinning. But one high-profile supporter of Mr. McCain will be missing: his running mate Sarah Palin.

Spinning on behalf of the Democrats on Friday night will be Joe Biden, Mr. Obama's running mate. He is expected to appear live on NBC, CBS, and CNN immediately following the debate, representatives of those networks said on Friday. "

What!?! Palin can't handle it?!?

" Obama got on a plane right away like a good little snot should."

Shameless, aren't you?

What would your spin have been had Obama said "no"?

AnalAmerican gives a whole new meaning to the phrase: A Special Kind of Stupid

biden will be out of it by the second week of october. any bets?

"biden will be out of it by the second week of october. any bets?"

Sure...how much do you want to lose?

NEWFLASH: Palin aides are defying subpoena's regarding the investigations into wrong doing in Palins administration......Why does this sound so familiar?...

Fair warning, I have had a couple of Heineken lites thus far this evening. I am going to be moving onto the Harp in a few minutes, things could get silly from here on out.

McSame's voting record? 95%-100% with Bush, why do you ask?

Did Obama announce that he was going to join McCain in Washington in his announcement saying he wouldn't agree to a delay in the debate?

No

Did he go when Bush called him?

Yes

You can't spin your way out of that.

1/2 way through my 2nd 6 pack of talls.
Plus I'm enjoying some of the NorthWest's finest and biggest export crops.

Ditto. I'll take that bet, Nanc. If Biden drops out I will post "I'm a fucking moron," without any other comments, 30 times on Drudge. If he doesn't, you will post the same.

Deal?

AnalAmerican: Can you provide the proof that "Bush called him"?

Plus Nanc has to sing all of her posts for a week as Biden's Bitch

sign

McCain will brag and lie. Obama hs made his bed with Wall Street, as he is required to do.

The bailout is nothing but another giveaway to the rich (what you righty tighties call evil Socialism). It will hurt the 65% of the population that can least afford it the most. AND IT WILL NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

These fuckers plan to move the money overseas and leave the country high and dry. LET THEM FAIL. NO ONE EXCEPT THESE PAPER SHUFFLING LEACHES SHOULD GIVE A FUCK.

I'm going to be sick. Time for a joint.

Biden isn't going anywhere.

Neither is Sarah.

------------

Dan--Obama should have gone when McCain went. It's called leadership.

-----------------

Null--I am in agreement with you on Sarah --She needs to get out there more. She is better than what has been seen thus far. Maybe it's nerves--but that would go away with more interviews.

Even if she was talking 20 minutes on talk radio, the stations tonight after the debate, more would be better.

(Now don't be shocked)

The McCain camp is now saying that he is "tired" and has not had alot of sleep because he has been working on the bailout. Guess they have their excuse cue cards ready to go.

Let's see if the Debate goes here...naw, not possible:>)

Ten Things You Should Know About Bush's Trillion

Dollar Fleecing Plan

Call it extortion. Every American is told to ante up $2,000--an estimated $700 billion in all--to bail out the banks from their bad bets, or they'll bring down the entire economy.

In a speculative frenzy that allowed the Masters of the Universe to pocket millions personally, the banks filled their coffers with toxic paper that no one wants to buy. Now they sensibly don't want to lend money to each other, since no one knows if the other is solvent. So they go on strike, and threaten to trigger a global depression, if they don't get rescued.

www.globalresearch.ca

T-minus 10 minutes

www.wnbc.com

Bush took the unusual step Wednesday night of calling Democratic Sen. Barack Obama directly to invite him to the meeting, White House press secretary Dana Perino said. An Obama spokesman said the senator would attend.

Can you provide the proof that "Bush called him"?

#125 | Posted by briwo at 2008-09-26

Briwo--it was all over the news and from Obama's camp.

Bush took the unusual step Wednesday night of calling Democratic Sen. Barack Obama directly to invite him to the meeting, White House press secretary Dana Perino said. An Obama spokesman said the senator would attend.

#133 | Posted by anamerican

I would go meet the anti-christ, too, if God told me to:>)

"Dan--Obama should have gone when McCain went. It's called leadership."

No it's not...it's called a political stunt. Neither he nor Obama served on any of the committees or are up to speed on any of the pertinent issues. Injecting Presidential politics into the mix is a desperate attempt by McCain to seem relevant. Swooping in at the 11th hour is an insult to those on both sides of the aisle who actually did the legwork.

I'm surprised the Messiah obeyed Bush. So out of character for him. LOL

* crack *

Ha! That's the sound of Spud opening his pre-debate beer!

Jim Leher rawks!

Woo Hoo!

Alright, good peoples.

Let's do this thing!

Be Well.

/So here it's almost SCARY! Entering as ya do,
stage left.

"(Now don't be shocked)

#129 | Posted by MURPHY "

I'm shocked, Murphy! :)

Mississippi wasn't too, too pleased with Johnny Boy's dithering. I wonder what kind of reception he will get?

As I recall from earlier, the game is Maker's Mark, or a toke, every time McCain says, "My friends". Or was it mentioning being a POW?

Dan--that's your spin--or whatever--
---------------

Ted Kennedy had a seizure today and back home.

Will Obama have his 300 foreign policy advisors at the debate with him? Watch for hidden mics.

AA--He practiced with 12 Mock debates with McCain stand in.

Thnaks, Murphy. I only heard about the hospital visit.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only looser with nothing to do on a Friday night!

Has AmericanUnity finally admitted he has a puppy love crush on Sarah Palin?

As I recall from earlier, the game is Maker's Mark, or a toke, every time McCain says, "My friends". Or was it mentioning being a POW?

#140 | Posted by Corky at 2008-09-26 08:56 PM |

What is it Biden says repeatedly? My fellow Americans....if I'm not mistaken

And Obama.........take a drink on every uh....and you'll be drunk in fifteen minutes.

Bush took the unusual step Wednesday night of calling Democratic Sen. Barack Obama directly to invite him to the meeting,
-analamerican

Thanks for proving my point. Explain how you arrived at "came runnin like a puppy" when Bush called him?

Both have to Presidential and both have to be likeable.

What's the official thread for this debate? This one? Or the headline thread on the front page?

Bush invited him and he came running like a puppy.

"Dan--that's your spin--"

Riiiiiiiiight. I'm telling it like it really is, and you are desperately pretending McCain had any leadership role in this.

Look, it took all of two days for the guy to do what he promised he wouldn't do...why did he lie to the American people?

Never mind. Rcade changed the title.

Watch for hidden mics.

#142 | Posted by analmerican at 2008-09-26 08:56 PM

No, only Bush and Palin are so ignorant they need to stoop to that.

Will Obama have his 300 foreign policy advisors at the debate with him? Watch for hidden mics.

#142 | Posted by anamerican

Video] REID: McCain was silent at the White House; Lacks Temperament to be president

Sen. Harry Reid gives an inside account of the White House meeting on 9/25/08, reporting Sen. John McCain barely said a word, and that his participation "blew up" negotiations on Capitol Hill. Reid says McCain's behavior this week shows he doesn't have the temperment to be President.

"He is erratic."

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Explain how you arrived at "came runnin like a puppy" when Bush called him?
#147 | Posted by briwo

Obama was heard arfing towards the plane..

As I recall he asked Obama to delay the debate. Obama refused.

Bush invited him and he came running like a puppy.

#150 | Posted by anamerican at 2008-09-26 08:59 PM

Prove "came running like a puppy"

"McCain stand in"

Some old guy crapping in his pants?

his participation "blew up" negotiations on Capitol Hill--per Bani

Word is that Obama played lawyer when he walked into the meeting and started lecturing everyone--which started the yelling from other people in the meeting.

Reid is a liar.

"As I recall he asked Obama to delay the debate."

What a pussy. If he's afraid of Obama, how's he going to handle China or Russia?

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FUCK CNN WITH A STICK.

Going with CSPAN now.

Be Well.

Shit I should have printed off the drinking game rules, I have to keep scrolling up.

null - why wait to admit your strong points?

McCain's answer:

Ah, but the strawberries! That's where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes, but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt, and with geometric logic, that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox did exist!

Spud, any US network has it.

"null - why wait to admit your strong points?"

Do you agree to the bet?

Security and solvency are interconnected?

Spud likes Ike.

First question.

Recovery plan Sen Obama?

1. There must be Oversight.
2. Getting the money back is important.
3. No padding CEO bank accounts.
4. Help the homeowners.

Trickle down doesn't work.

Strewth!

Good 'un!

Be Well.

Yes, and who was asleep at the switch? Who's watch?

McCain wins the first points for mentioning Teddy Kennedy.

Zinger by Lehrer

Dull, Johnny.

First posture points

Yes, How?

Obama is lying through his teeth.

McLame's response?

It's good cos folks come together in a crisis.

True, but they are coming together to kick yer ass.

Doesn't mention the suffering home owners.

That figures.

Be Well.

/Leher makes them actually answer the question.
//Do you favor the plan?

Invasion? Nice deflection.

McCain quotes Churchill *throws away glass and drinks directly from bottle*

Obama's answer.

There is no complete plan at this point to either say yeah or nay to.

McCain. Are you gonna vote fer the plan?

Sure!

Be Well.

Last 8 yrs, no accountability, that's HOW

Years, Obama that your buddies in Congress said FMae and FMac would not support regulation that McCain did support.

Tell us about the ACORN inclusion in the plan, Obama.

It's only a crisis when the big boys get hit?

Obama calls shenanigans on that Bullshit.

Be Well.

Medals of Freedom for all Regulators! Heck of a job!

Yes, and you were part of it

America is still the biggest exporter?

Did McCain just say that?

Wow, just wow.

Be Well.

Oh, now corruption is a gateway drug??????

3 million is a drop of spit in the ocean.

Obama didn't say anything ever about Fannie--he was taking their money--

Fibbing about earmarks when he requested a billion ??

Oh fuck - McCain brought up the 3 mil for the study of bear DNA in Montana, way to go Johnny boy! Your Bible Spice wants to get money for the mating habits of crabs!

Obama, tell us how much money you want to spend on world poverty.

McCain sure has a bad combover.

www.flickr.com

I wonder if Hussein is going to talk about his $100,000 'Garden to Nowhere' earmark?

McCain wants 300 billion dollars in tax cuts to the richest and will pay fer it by eliminating 18 billion in earmarks?

Man, did Vern lend him his calculator?

Be Well.

I am up to 20 errs umms uhhh uuhh for Obama and 18 minutes are past..

John is only capable of repeating his stump speeches. Sad.

40% of American families don't pay income taxes.

Keep taxes low? Obamas plan clearly gives a tax break to 95% of working Americans, basically anyone who is making up to $250,000.

McCain wants 300 billion dollars in tax cuts to the richest and will pay fer it by eliminating 18 billion in earmarks?

Man, did Vern lend him his calculator?

Be Well.

#193 | Posted by dethspud

ff

Corky, you know Hillary should be up there on that podium.

Obama looks like Darth Vadar. LOL

Obama.

Close loopholes.
Stop paying folks to ship jobs overseas.
Healthcare.

Money well spent and saved.

McCain's tax policies are geared towards the rich just like BushCo.

Yeah, that'll help the middle class/snark>

Be Well.

McSame keeps talking about all the things that have gone wrong in the past few yrs.....hmmmm. who was in charge again.

There is goes again. 95%. 40% of these people don't pay income taxes, you fool.

Sad, analamerican is reduced to calling Obama Darth Vader....sad.....

Oh! Score Obmana on the loopholes.

Obmana? Obama

Hussein should know about disgusting CEO pay for running a corporation into the ground and wrecking the financails, he just needs to ask his good buddy Franklin Raines how much he made destroying FNMA.

Now McCain is talking about new spending programs?

Trying to bribe folks with their own money agin, eh?

The real tax rates on business are one of the lowest on earth when you factor in the loopholes.

McLame's 5,000 dollar health credit.

Course he's gonna tax yer health care benefits.

How stoopid is THAT?!

Be Well.

McSame: 95-100% voted with Bush, THOSE are the numbers.

Look at their voting records, folks.

Nailed McSame on the $4 billion.

Tax breaks to those who don't pay taxes, is like not hearing Rev Racist's rants while sitting in the pews for 22 years.

drilling off shore...........way off shore where there is less oil. Right, Obama.

his good buddy Franklin Raines

The guy he never met and only spoke to fer 5 minutes that McLame made the subject of one of his attack ads?

Yer talking points are old and busted, Wexter.

4 Billion in tax breaks to BigOil in McLame's plan.

Be Well.

Yes, look. McBush 95-100% of the time with Bush

Pretty good job by Jim Lehrer.

Anyone who thinks the rehtugs are the party to reign in the excesses of BigOil is totally deluded.

Be Well.

Leher is always a class act.

McCain keeps shaking his head and smiling, not a good sign, could that famous temper be brewing?

the number most important question of the nite ~ until the bailout issue, that is...

Israel asked US for green light to bomb nuclear sites in Iran
Jonathan Steele guardian.co.uk, Thursday September 25 2008 19:02 BST
www.guardian.co.uk

Pretty good job by Jim Lehrer.

Strewth.

Spud's impressed.

Be Well.

Health care for everyone!!!! Another freebie for the government to pay for. Where is the money? FMae and FMac??

So, let me see if I get this. Raising taxes on business (when our corporate tax rate is alrady ne of the highest int eh world) is going to create more American jobs and make sure they don't go to South Korea or Japan.

Wow, I never realized that would work!

New electrical grid?

Yeah fer infrastructure.

Eliminate programs that don't work sez Obama.

Be Well.

Maybe we can look in Iraq for the $20+ billion dollars that Bushco "lost"

Obama has the most liberal voting record in the Senate?

Damn, Yawnboy yer pathetic.

This aint Freeperland, asswipe.

Yer talking to folks who actually can think fer themselves.

Be Well.

A bail out would be in store for the medical community if Obama is elected. You can bet on it.

Tax breaks to those who don't pay taxes, is like not hearing Rev Racist's rants while sitting in the pews for 22 years.

#212 | Posted by r_zeitgeist

"ADL has long been an advocate for strong, effective and sensible gun control legislation. Gun violence and the caching of dangerous weapons are commonplace among extremists. If states lose the right to regulate firearm ownership, it would help violent bigots in their efforts to create an America based on hate and intolerance."

www.adl.org

except for Israeli's of course:>)

(when our corporate tax rate is alrady ne of the highest int eh world)

Not when you factor in the loopholes.

Be Well.

AnAmerican - and you just got your set of steak knives - I am not even sure you are even watching the debate.

Rex, try actually listening.

Opposing Bush's wrong headed policies is not being uber liberal just logical.

Be Well.

Obama wants to give more to everyone. Another bail out on the way folks.

Spending freeze...GIMMICK!

I'm all for Nuc power when we can achieve cold fusion.

Rev Racist's rants

Yer thinking of Failin's pastor aint ya?

Be Well.

Early childhood education? Hmmmmm, I think Hussein is correct, our k-6 grades DO need more graphic sex education.

McAncient wants 45 new nuclear power plants?

Good night.

Be Well.

Analamerican is getting confused switching back and forth between Drudge and his gay porn site, Republicans for American Youth.com

Spud, when do they appoint your premiere up in Canada?

I have trouble keeping up with that stuff in the Great White North!

KO LOOKOO KOO KOO KO KO KOO!

Early childhood education? Hmmmmm, I think Hussein is correct, our k-6 grades DO need more graphic sex education.

#238 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2008-09-26 09:34 PM
HUH????????????

Don't We have way too much nuclear waste the way it is. John McCain wants more?? What a fucking loon.

Larry

our k-6 grades DO need more graphic sex education.

Gawd, yer pathetic.

Are you in Failin's camp who thinks teaching abstinance is the way to go?

Sure worked out swell in her case (and her daughters)

Well their bellies were swellin' anyway.

Be Well.

95-100% of the time

His voting record says otherwise

2 maverick's! That's 2 drinks!

Maverick my ass.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!

As far as the fiscal bailout/buyout package is concerned.

Hussein is in line with President Bush, and Johnny Mac isn't.

Victory? Stable Ally? Democracy? Is it 2003?

Lessons of Iraq--

MC badly mishandled--he was the guy for the surge.

Obama--he was against it when he didn't have to vote or not--does that mean he was Present?

Will Obama tell us he has asked the folks in Irsq to wait until he is President before asking us to withdraw troops?

Analamerican is getting confused switching back and forth between Drudge and his gay porn site, Republicans for American Youth.com

#240 | Posted by briwo

NAW, he just wishes he was Borat, the fashion stud...

omg.yahoo.com

Ok, Briwo, I am on board with the 'maverick' drinks too.

And I am going to take a drink for every time Hussein says change or hope. Glad I got a 12 pack.

I'm watching the debate on tv.

Obama needs to butt in more!

He's letting McCain babble on and on and barely getting any air time.

If Obama doesn't get tougher in this debate they will declare it a McCain win.

This debate is NOT the time for Obama to be "polite."

Start kicking back, Obama.

I'm finishing my 2nd 6 pack of talls.

A follower of Bush like McLame is NOT gonna lead America anywhere good.

"Not winnning Miss Congeniality in the Senate"?

Second time he sed that.

That's cos yer a rage-a-holic who blows his stack every five minutes and cos yer GOPher compatriots still hate you fer ditching yer wife in a shameless manner, ya Bozo!

Yawn opposed torture.

Sure he gave lip service to the notion but then he signed onto a bill that makes it legal fer tjhe CIA to torture.

McLame's a empty suiit.

Winning in Iraq?

Yer fucking delusional, Yawnboy.

Iraq is a stable country that is friendly to US interests?

Bwa ha ha hah hah hah hah hah!

Be Well.

No Spud, I beleive that sex education should begin in school no earlier then the 7 th grade and only with parental permission.

Tell him, McCain. We can't go back in time. Its what we do from here on.

Surge did not work.

What a lying sack of shit. He said He was against torture and the Administration use of torture but the lying fucker wouldn't sign the ban on torture when He had the chance. WOrthless piece of God damned shit.

Larry

I'm finishing my 2nd 6 pack of talls.

Beer is good!

* Urp *

Scusie!

Be Well.

Didn't Obama call Petraus, Betraus?

No Spud, I beleive that sex education should begin in school no earlier then the 7 th grade and only with parental permission.

#259 | Posted by r_zeitgeist

What & give 'em child molesters a chance on the under 7 th grader?

Obama doesn't want a military.

Nailed Hussein on the surge and his being absent in Iraq. Inexusable.

Hussein is ain't war, he can't back track on that or he loses the looony leftwingers who were 'for the war before they were against it.'

Present company excluded....of course.

Chris he just did it and McCain is getting pissed.

I thought you guys hated Gen Patreus(sp)?

Obama just sung his praises.....just called him "brilliant".

What an ass!

Didn't Obama call Petraus, Betraus?

#264 | Posted by anamerican

hope so ~ betrayus would be best, of course, but he's too polite tonite apparently

Parents have discretion on that issue for young children Bani. Parents.

You are losing money and lives in Iraq.

Wot precisely are you winning, John?

Be Well.

Listening to McSame talk about Iraq:

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

Tactic versus Strategy--zing to MC

Iraqi freedom --

Refuses to acknowledge--

Obama still misses the point

Obama doesn't know what success is. He can't even look at any success in Chicago as a community organizer.

It seems McSame gets pissed when Obama mentions Sarah, I saw his jaw clenching.

It's not about funding troops it's about a timetable.

Good 'un, Barack!

Way to set McLame straight.

Be Well.

Obama talking over McCain. Obama is getting mad. LOL

Yeah it is NOW!!! AFTER we invaded.

"Iraqi freedom"

ff

Al Qaida flocked to Iraq to fight Americans. Duh....Obama.

Pockiston. LOL

Iraq is the central battleground?

That's bullshit.

Started in Afghanistan and needs to end there.

The surge didn't work.

The ethnic cleansing and refugee crisis are responsible fer the lower violence levels not Patreous.

Bribing various militias to not kill Americans is not a plausible long term strategy.

There were no AQ in Iraq before BushCo's blunder.

Points fer Obama.

Be Well.

This is why I would never vote for Hussein, he is in the pocket of the hard left over the war.

Saying we 'left' Afgahinistan unfinished, so we must 'leave' Iraq before the mission is completed, is absolutely and completely insane.

It's Code Pink madness.

Al Qaida flocked to Iraq to fight Americans. Duh....Obama.

#282 | Posted by anamerican at 2008-09-26 09:51 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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AL Qaeda would not have been in Iraq had Dubya not have invaded Double Duh.

Larry

holy shit! Did McCain just blame the US for 9/11???

Al Qaida flocked to Iraq to fight Americans. Duh....Obama.

#282 | Posted by anamerican at 2008-09-26 09:51 PM

Yeah Dumbass, and why were the Americans in Iraq again??

LOL!! Fucking tool.

It's Code Pink madness.

#285 | Posted by r_zeitgeist

so it's Nader or Ron Paul?

Obviously McCain is insane...kinda like you late Friday nite after a few tokes:>)

Al Qaida flocked to Iraq to fight Americans.

They went in to fill a power vacuum that Bush created.

As predictable as it was pathetic.

The Iranians are the biggest winners in Iraq and it didn't cost 'em a dime.

Ahaminajihad oughta buy Dumbya some flowers or sommat.

Be Well.

Spud, if we had stayed in Afghanistan, Saddam would have joined in the fight and you should know that.

"holy shit! Did McCain just blame the US for 9/11???"

He's senile. He doesn't know what he is saying.

so we must 'leave' Iraq before the mission is completed, is absolutely and completely insane.

#285 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2008-09-26 09:52 PM

Hey cupcake, can you enlighten us as to "the mission"?

Spud, if we had stayed in Afghanistan, Saddam would have joined in the fight and you should know that.

#291 | Posted by anamerican at 2008-09-26 09:54 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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BULLSHIT Al Qaeda was a direct threat to His Secular Regime. It is right winged giobberish that You spew.

Larry

Is it irritating the way Obama says Pakistan and Taliban?

Saddam Hussein is in hell with his murdering rapists sons, the bathist are destroyed, Iraq is less violent then a dozen other nations in Africa and South America. The surge did what is was suposed to and moved the ball further down the road towards withdrawl and turned bloody conflict in a sembelence of peace.

And arguing about the 'withdrawl' between Hussein and Johnny mac is meanginless, the Bush administariton is negotiating that already.

It will be mostly out of their hands.

"You don't tell them that"

~Yawn McLame.

Cos the American people and the world don't deserve the truth?

Cos secrecy and lies are the way to go?

Tried that Route Yawnboy.

Time fer a strategy that works and has some honor.

Be Well.

Spud, Iran is doing exactly in Iraq what they have done in Afghanistan. Want to go to Iran?

Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran!

Spud, if we had stayed in Afghanistan, Saddam would have joined in the fight and you should know that.

#291 | Posted by anamerican at 2008-09-26 09:54 PM

I cal TOTAL BULLSHIT!! That is flat out pulled out of your ass and a complete lie.

holy shit! Did McCain just blame the US for 9/11???

#287 | Posted by Shredder

about time the truth was known...

911 ~ inside job

whatreallyhappened.com

Pockiston....drink!

"songs about bombing Iran"

Ka-ZING!

Oh snap.

Be Well.

Saddam Hussein is in hell with his murdering rapists sons, the bathist are destroyed, Iraq is less violent then a dozen other nations in Africa and South America. The surge did what is was suposed to and moved the ball further down the road towards withdrawl and turned bloody conflict in a sembelence of peace.

And arguing about the 'withdrawl' between Hussein and Johnny mac is meanginless, the Bush administariton is negotiating that already.

It will be mostly out of their hands.

#296 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2008-09-26 09:56 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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His Ronald Reagan there in Hell with Him since He gave Him Material and Logistic support when He killed His own people??

Larry

Bring up Beirut--excellent

Now are you going to call a fellow ADA guy a cupcake Briwo?

Not quite 'Fit to Fight' stuff.

Take a drink as punishment. That or 300 leg squat thrusts.

BushCo had a Mushareff policy not a Pakistan policy and now we can see the futility of that approach.

Obama is kicking the old mans ass.

Be Well.

Briwo, Saddam was funding terrorists in Palestine. You don't think he would have used the opportunity to fund terrorists in Afghanistan. If you don't think so, you are most naive.

www.marxist.com

"Bring up Beirut--excellent"

Piss on Reagan. I'm sure you like that, Murphy.

Didn't McCain oppose the invasion of Bosnia??

Larry

Hokey shit from McWorse.

Anal I fear you are even more deluded that your posts let on.

The first Gulf War?

If April Galaspie hadn't effectively told Saddam it was cool to go into Kuwait it woulda saved a lot of lives.

Bush's fault.

Strewth.

Be Well.

I was a POW!

Oh what Bullshit. Weep, let's all hold hands and sing God Bless America.

Obama has a bracelet, too! Comparing jewelry now, Obama?

I have a bracelet too--what a piss-ant

Anal, don't you have a date with your bosses cock ring?

Saddam Hussein is in hell with his murdering rapists sons, the bathist are destroyed, Iraq is less violent then a dozen other nations in Africa and South America. The surge did what is was suposed to and moved the ball further down the road towards withdrawl and turned bloody conflict in a sembelence of peace.

#296 | Posted by r_zeitgeist

Ethnic cleansing at its best?

I suppose Hussein (assuming it wasn't one of his 9 lookalike bodyguards that took the final hit) is being forced to watch one of your metal bashing video's all the time in your supposed "Hell"

true justice!

Amen brother

Saddam was funding terrorists in Palestine

Yes, but not nearly to the degree that Saudi Arabia is and was.

That money was all part of Saddam's cynical bid to re-invent himself as a "good muslim" when shit started going to hell fer him post Gulf War I.

Be Well.

I have 65 umms by Obama and we are one hour into the debate

Ouch! McHothead is pissed.

Now now, let's not let this disinigrate into name calling, let's listen to what Senators McCain and Hussein have to say.

Yes, it's easy to see our security needs when you're protected by an Infantry battalion with helicopter gunship support.

Comparing jewelry now, Obama?

But when McCain does it, it's cool, right?

Yer a hack.

Be Well.

"I have a bracelet too--what a piss-ant"

Exactly. McCain is a pissant.

Obama's friends, Code Pink, hosted Ahmedeadijohn. Was Obama invited?

Bani, don't bring the non political music thread into it.

Somethings are sacred!

Iran is an existential threat?

Is that like the League of Justice?

"league of democracies" Bullshit.

Obama is a good speaker but I trust McCain's very old experience. Obama definitely has good snap answers but look deeper.

Michelle should put her children to bed. This can't be good for her children to see their Dad being upstaged.

Here we go, shaking the nuke boogieman.

I have 65 umms by Obama and we are one hour into the debate

Tha's cool. Spud's count has 1,365,948 blinks so far fer McAncient.

And a full load of shit in his Depends adult undergarment.

Be Well.

Right Brain v Left Brain

which way is the babe turning for you tonite?:>)

www.news.com.au

both still for me

And why are the Americans there to be attacked again?

Murphy - would you please stop channeling Rush Limbaugh, it is really fucking annoying. I mean come on have a fucking independent thought for once in your fucking life.

Posted by Corky

Hillary is out.

get over it.

So Obama is now saying that Saddam would have kept Iran in check. Is he serious??

Why do I keep hearing Obama say the same BS he did when he was running for the ticket? Obama=New Ross Perrot

I have a braclet too, Sgt., um uh uh, er, uh, ah, uh (where the Rev. Wright are my crib notes)

So Obama is now saying that Saddam would have kept Iran in check. Is he serious??

#341 | Posted by anamerican

He did for 20 years.

Duh.,

He did keep Iran in check you stupid tool, that's why St. Ronnie armed and funded him.

Pre-condition

sorry null - i'm not given to lying about myself as easily as you are to telling the truth about yourself.

Yes, sitting down with those you disagree with is a bad thing.

Makes Obama look like the loon he is.

Iminthemoodforjihad--Obama is very naive

Really, what about Bush's illegal behavior?

And a full load of shit in his Depends adult undergarment.

I certainly don't like all the righties on this site but I am so glad the lefties own this meth addict.

face to face. LOL

lilbrit - do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

Ohama has no clue. Uh....

So Obama is now saying that Saddam would have kept Iran in check. Is he serious??

#341 | Posted by anamerican

that was the original plan, fool

Iran's running IEDs into Iraq?

Jeez, wot did you think was gonna happen?

BushCo's supporting opposing militias and using depleted uranium and white phosphorus munitions.

McCain is afraid of talking with Iran.

Fewer kickbacks from the MIC if ya do that, doncha know.

Here we go "W/O Preconditions"

No asshole. No self defeating preconditions!!

Wiping Israel off the map?

That old chestnut, again?

Be Well.

Hey isn't it better and more mature to sit down with ones enemies than it is to lash out first??

Hahahahaha. You don't invite them over for tea!

Meet anyone --just call him--Obama

Kissinger is advising McTaint?

Game over. Thanx fer playing.

Wotta loser.

Be Well.

Looks like Saddam Hussein would get some votes in this thread.

I'm betting the Larry king love fest with Amhadumass went over real well too?

Really, what about Bush's illegal behavior?

Why doesn't Obama ask that?

Obama is right on talking with Iran.

Obama leads and even Dumbya has to follow.

McLame's head assplodes!

Be Well.

Looks like Saddam Hussein would get some votes in this thread.

I'm betting the Larry king love fest with Amhadumass went over real well too?

#361 | Posted by r_zeitgeist

hey, I was one of the 9 lookalike bodyguards...before my makeover

"doesn't seem to understand" needs to be added as a drinking game phrase.

#339 | Posted by Litlebritdifrnt

Haha

It is dangerous--Obama is dangerous--not looking good here for Obama.

Is that independent enough for LB?

Them gooks in North Korea are shorter!

Yet we don't invade and topple Dear Leader for the good of the N Korean people.

Obama is backing up now. He said he would meet face to face with these guys.

McLame doesn't even know if Spain is aligned with the US.

Good 'un.

Yawn McLame responds with a lame "Seal" joke?

Yawn.

Talking with Iran legitimises it's anti-semitism?

Who does Yawn think he's fooling with that shit?

Oh right. R-tards.

Nevermind.

Be Well.

Hussein is on the ropes.

McSame keeps going back to talking points that have already been addressed.

Obama is rattled...

The ummms are increasing for Obama

Russia!! Where's Sarah? She's knows all about Russia! Heck, she can see it from the hot tub on her deck!

"My friend Doctor Kissinger"?

~McLame

The War Criminal?

The guy who bombed Cambodia illegally?

That POS?

Be Well.

Obama is rattled...

#373 | Posted by anamerican at 2008-09-26 10:16 PM

you sayin it, don't make it so.

McCain is flailing away like the Frankenstein monster in a burning building.

McCain ia losing it, he is getting snitty and nasty..... famous McCain implosion in 3, 2, 1.....

Where is Rogers with his zippy one liners he likes to throw out?

NICE!!! Bush bitch slapped!

rex - when i asked my yellow-dog dem mom, "you'd vote for madass insane if he had a (d) after his name, wouldn't you?" her, "YOU DAMNED STRAIGHT!"

The ummms are increasing for Obama

McLame's blinking is getting so fierce it look like he's signalling his VietCong captors.

Spud translates the Morses Code.

"Operation Manchurian Candidate going Swell"

Apparently, the Queen of Diamonds has been flashed.

Be Well.

Now McCain is lying about the Georgia-Russia conflict.

Tell me he didn't just say KGB....

Obama needs to remember who he is running against.

Naivete--doesn't begin to explain Obama--

KGB--great line

#386 | Posted by LarryMohr

Tell that to Obama

Nanc, keep working on her! 40 days or so to go.

We are all Georgians/dumbasses now!

Holy Shit? Is Family Ties on? What year is this?

So Obama is now saying that Saddam would have kept Iran in check. Is he serious?? -- AnAmerican, #341

I'm generally a huge critic of Obama's (lack of) foreign policy knowledge, but he's dead right about this. Classic balance of power -- Iran is so much more dangerous today because it's no longer occupied by an Iraqi threat next door. Kissinger was very open about the usefulness of this balance during the Iran-Iraq War in the 1980's. This is one of many reasons that it was obvious to most international relations experts that the Iraq War was a big mistake.

A bit of naivete on McLame's part.

He thinks only Russia is to blame in the recent Georgian conflict.

Be Well.

/The guy who wants to steal all of the ME's oil is complaining that Russia wants oil too?
//THAT'S rich.

Didn't LaRry retire or something?

CNN is running plus/minus lines from REP/DEM/IND. Also shows scoring by 6 of their political analysts.

McCain's stories aren't catching my attention.

#386 | Posted by LarryMohr

Tell that to Obama

#389 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-09-26 10:20 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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It's that fuckheaqd McCain that needs to know that. Hello BTW I still love ya

Larry

timishenko and weshenko! lol.

MURPHY

I don't know what debate you're watching, but it's obviously not the one on network TV.

Your statements are out in left field.

So Obama is now saying that Saddam would have kept Iran in check. Is he serious??

Fer years the realpolitic thinking in DC was "Sure he's a bastard, but he's OUR bastard"

Foul as he was he was a bulwark against rising tide of Islamic extremism in the region.

News to you, Anna Merkin?

Be Well.

Obama needs to remember who he is running against.

#387 | Posted by anamerican

Ron Paul's bizarro twin?

Ohhh, McSame didn't like that.

'Drill here, drill now.' (staffer of another Rev. in Rev. Racists clerical pool)

We need our OWN OIL drilled!

BTW, I want a car that runs at night on solar energy. Anyone know where I can get one?

Here comes the Commander McBragg stories...

Obama keeps talking over McCain. A sign of desperation.

Yes let's move on--Obama is losing

BTW, I want a car that runs at night on solar energy. Anyone know where I can get one?

#404 | Posted by anamerican at 2008-09-26 10:24 PM

Just about any electric car on the market. God, you're a fucking idiot.
It's called a BATTERY ASSWIPE!!!!

"Over 26 times in the last 23 years Yawn has voted against alternate energy."

~Obama

The GOPhers are BigOil's biatch.

Have been ferever.

Thinking they are the ones to lead the way to an alternate energy future is beyond naive and well into delusional.

Yeesh!

Be Well.

McCain employs the talk over them strategery. It's not a tactic.

You're an idiot, Murphy. At best--for you--it's a draw.

And that's a loss.

Who do you think is getting the reach around, Murphy or AnalAmerican?

McCain employs the talk over them strategery. It's not a tactic.

He sure does. He sure gets adamant when his inaccurate statements are called into question.

Fer years the realpolitic thinking in DC was "Sure he's a bastard, but he's OUR bastard" -- Spud

Uh... that logic went out the window in the 1990's. Remember Desert Storm?

You're an idiot, Murphy. At best--for you--it's a draw.

Right now the polling is indicating Obama's winning. We'll see how the finals tally.

Obama, we have to go to every country where Al Qaida exists!!! Yah!!

The "Safer but not yet safe" sound bite, John?

Another K-tel Classic from the GOPher files.

Torture?

BULLSHIT.

McCain voted to allow the CIA to torture and he knows it.

Too bad most rethugs are too stupid to figure it out.

No Credibility.

Be Well.

I think Briwo was stimulating his clitoris when he posted that last statement.

"He sure gets adamant when his inaccurate statements are called into question."

Some people get really pissed when their idiocy is challenged.

Did you catch Obama tell the moderator to move on to the next question why McCain was talking?

Obama is talking about all the money we borrow and he wants to spend more! Wow!

Remember Desert Storm?

~Phoenix

Remember April Glaspie?

It was argued that Glaspie's statements that "We have no opinion on your Arab Arab conflicts" and that "the Kuwait issue is not associated with America" were interpreted by Saddam as giving free rein to handle his disputes with Kuwait as he saw fit. It was also argued that Saddam would not have invaded Kuwait had he been given an explicit warning that such an invasion would be met with force by the United States.

Vancouver born gal, doncha know.

Be Well.

Did you catch Obama tell the moderator to move on to the next question why McCain was talking?

No, what happened was the mod wanted to and tried to move on, and Obama challenged McCain's inaccuracies. McCain started going on and on, and Obama politely said "Go ahead, Jim, let's move on."

I think Briwo was stimulating his clitoris when he posted that last statement.

#418 | Posted by r_zeitgeist at 2008-09-26 10:30 PM

that's only because you're the only hermaphrodite I know who's hung enough to fuck himself. It kind of turns me on.....

rex - she's hopeless - said she'd never vote for that......., but says she'd NEVER vote republican.

Interesting. McCain's talking about his vast experience and Obama's inexperinece and McCain's numbers with IND just went sharply negative.

OMG! He's trying to tie Obama to Bushco!

Obama is laughing....arrogance extraordinare

I thought that was our secret Briwo.

OPSEC and all that

"Some people get really pissed when their idiocy is challenged.

#419 | Posted by nullifidian at 2008-09-26 10:31 PM | Reply | Flag:"

no one moreso than you!

Barack "Broader Strategic Vision" Obama.

vs.

Yawn "We shoulda nuked the gooks" McCain.

Hmmm, lemme think about that one.

Be Well.

Wow--the DR's are starting to defend Obama--must look worse than what we see..attack the poster.

Obama wants to be KING OF THE WORLD!!

He's laughing because he can't believe the words coming out of McSame's mouth!

ODL! he's talking about his kanyen diddy!

Remember April Glaspie? -- Spud

Yes, I do, and I believe her version of events.

Do you remember that we invaded Iraq anyway?

I think Briwo was stimulating his clitoris when he posted that last statement.

#418 | Posted by r_zeitgeist

Damn, I want one of those!

DRINK!!! Another!!! He's even got the tears in his voice.

Obama wins! By getting a tie, Obama passes the CIC test. Turn out the lights, this party is over.

I knew the POW thing would come up.

That has to do with restoring our image how?

debate over.

Excellent. Good debate.

Are dey postponin' de next debate so's dere's mo'e time t'prepare?

It gots been fun - Obama took him tonight. Man! Not into countin' de stutters o' blinkin'. McCain won de blinkin' hands waaay down.

Obama giving Michelle some tongue! LOL

POW--had to happen once during the debate--

One to Mccain--and one 'My friends"

And for Obama errr ummms oohhhh uuhhhhs--

the total----OMG! 101 !!!! is that a coincidence!!

Vote for me. I was a POW!

Pathetic.

America no longer inspires much except fer fear and mocking laughter.

Obama is correct there, sadly.

Electing McLame would put the final nail in that coffin.

America has one chance to change to change course.

It aint McCain.

G08ama/8iden '08!

Be Well.


McCain probably beat his low expectations, but Obama was as good as advertised.

I'll call that a win.

Time for Music

And coming up, Sarah Palin, the VP candidate, talks to the press.

It was like the first round of a heavy weight fight, kind of feeling each other out...like Murphy and AnalAmerican.

Woo Hoo! That were fun.

Really looking forward to Oct 2, now!

"Kid" Joe Biden vs Scary "Moosiah" Failin

Barack won on points and poise.

Mcame broke a bunch of crayons and lied his ass off.

Be Well.

Obama's worried about what the children of the world' think about the USA.

But he's not worried about the barely breathing babies in the trash can.

I have to say this was a really good debate--very good back and forth--Lehrer was very good and let these guys talk.

Very good exchanges between the two.

Main points---

From McCain--Obama is naive and does not get it--does not understand.

From Obama--umms errrs ohhhs uuuggg--Iraq was wrong.

McCain's number one surrogate, Sarah Palin, will be giving interviews promoting McCain to all the networks.

Corky-
re: McCain probably beat his low expectations, but Obama was as good as advertised.

I'll call that a win.

*high five*, Corky!

Or not.

Funny to be worried about the US reputation when the major countries are voting in conservatives--ie Germany France Pakistan--friends of the US..

-And coming up, Sarah Palin, the VP candidate, talks to the press.

Seriously? We get dessert?

I don't like anyone really for president but I think I'm going to vote against that John Barry McBama guy, he sucks.

Pat Buchanan is finally as whacko as his sister.

"But he's not worried about the barely breathing babies in the trash can."

Dere is already laws written t'protect US citizens. If de baby be bo'n, even fo' some moment, de child gots rights as some citizen and be a citizen. 'S coo', bro. You's kin claim de child as some dependent who lived fo' plum a moment. Man! Dat be long enough fo' citizenship. Jes hang loose, brud.

McCain's number one surrogate, Sarah Palin, will be giving interviews promoting McCain to all the networks.

#455 | Posted by nullifidian

oh, her...I forgot...ff

McCain didn't fall asleep, the liberal media will declare him the winner.

"Seriously? We get dessert?"

Oops! I was wrong. She is still in hiding.

Spain be an enemy? Whose side do ya' dink Spain be on? Won't rap t'an ally?

Dat wuz real funny. Slap mah fro!

Funny to be worried about the US reputation when the major countries are voting in conservatives--ie Germany France Pakistan--friends of the US..

#458 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-09-26 10:43 PM

Compare the conservatism and positions of those candidates and Bushco, then post your bullshit.

You could lose a Peabody that way, Bill.

Obama's worried about what the children of the world' think about the USA.

But he's not worried about the barely breathing babies in the trash can.

#453 | Posted by anamerican at 2008-09-26 10:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why do I even post here?

RCADE, the cover charge has to come back. And cut off the free everclear chug contest already.

I kin not wait until de next debate. ah' am goin' t'need some mo'e liquo' t'keep down and happy.

New nickname for Palin via John Cole credited to Tbogg

Biblespice

~LBD

Good 'un.

"Tell ya wot I DON'T want wot I really, really DON'T want"

Scary Palin as Veep.

Be Well.

"I don't like anyone really for president but I think I'm going to vote against that John Barry McBama guy, he sucks."

Who cares what irrelevant "libertarians" think anyway?

-And cut off the free everclear chug contest already.

I know that's the only reason Stumpy comes here.

It would gots been supa fine t'see Hillary and Palin go at it.

"You could lose a Peabody that way, Bill."

Sorry, Corky, but I had sources that said Das Burgermeister might actually talk to the press tonight. My bad.

Hillary? In GOG? NO!!!!!

Pat Buchanan is finally as whacko as his sister.

Bay "At the Moon" Buchanan?

That's tuff to do.

Be Well.

Obama gave one of his strongest debate performances tonight. McCain was good himself, but his contempt for Obama and his refusal to address him directly made him look like a hothead in my opinion.

Clearly Obama passed the presidential test. (McCain did too, but he's not a candidate who needed to pass it after decades in the Senate.)

I didn't know there was a "K" in Ahmadinejad until McCain kept saying his name that way. Was it a gaffe?

One debate waaay down. ah' have been sittin' on de fence. Leanin' some bit mo'e now, so cut me some slack, John. We gots'ta see how de next one goes. So's long as we do not gots anoda' postponement request.

Bay, rhymes with Neigh.

Why do I even post here?

RCADE, the cover charge has to come back. And cut off the free everclear chug contest already.

#469 | Posted by BetelG

because you miss me?

#472 | Posted by nullifidian

"I don't like anyone really for president but I think I'm going to vote against that John Barry McBama guy, he sucks."

Who cares what irrelevant "libertarians" think anyway?

I don't know, I'm not one. I wouldn't vote for Barr either.

Was it a gaffe?

#478 | Posted by rcade at 2008-09-26 10:51 PM

I don't know, he kept stumbling over it.

"Tell ya wot I DON'T want wot I really, really DON'T want"

Scary Palin as Veep.

Be Well.

#471 | Posted by dethspud

Don't worry, Spittin'Spud...you won't have Palin as a Veep...nor will you have Biden, for that matter. You're a fuckin' Canadian, moron. It doesn't matter one tiny little fuckin' bit what the fuck YOU want.

This was McCain's strongest area. Obama matched him at the very least, and exceeded my expectations several times.

McCain probably beat his low expectations, but Obama was as good as advertised.

I'll call that a win.

~Corky.

Fer Obama, obviously.

Spud's take too.

Be Well.

Next up, Screeching Sarah. That ought to be fun.

-Was it a gaffe?

Or a pretzel?.

I didn't know there was a "K" in Ahmadinejad until McCain kept saying his name that way. Was it a gaffe?

#478 | Posted by rcade at 2008-09-26 10:51 PM |

How about Obama's "Pockiston", Rcade?

Null: Where?

What one was against the bailout?
What one was against socialized medicine?
What one was against the war on drugs?
What one was for an immediate withdraw from Iraq?

I'll vote for that guy.

YAV-
Yes, he did.

Obviously.

You're a fuckin' Canadian, moron. It doesn't matter one tiny little fuckin' bit what the fuck YOU want.

#484 | Posted by American1st

but he's more American in my eyes than any twerph that posts nonsense like this...providing that being called an "American" isn't an insult yet in this neo-conned nitemarish world GW has help re-create

AA, that is that proper pronunciation

How about Obama's "Pockiston", Rcade?

#489 | Posted by anamerican at 2008-09-26 10:56 PM | Reply | Flag

How do y'all and ur youngins' pronounce that there foreign place?

"Pockiston",

It's ghetto for Pakistan.

Note on body language---McCain genuinely dislikes Obama; Obama is not intimidated by John McCain.

Don't worry, Spittin'Spud...you won't have Palin as a Veep...nor will you have Biden, for that matter. You're a fuckin' Canadian, moron. It doesn't matter one tiny little fuckin' bit what the fuck YOU want.

He is either on so much drugs and is convinced that he lives here or he is a friggin liar.

What one was against the bailout?
What one was against socialized medicine?
What one was against the war on drugs?
What one was for an immediate withdraw from Iraq?

I'll vote for that guy.

#491 | Posted by JayDee

Great ~ another Ron Paul freak fan like me:>)

McCain was good himself, but his contempt for Obama and his refusal to address him directly made him look like a hothead in my opinion.

Agreed. His emotions were obviously barely held in check. Also wot was the deal with that smirk thing McCain had going on tonight?

McCain delivered one liners and Obama proved himself a man of substance and integrity tonight.

I didn't know there was a "K" in Ahmadinejad until McCain kept saying his name that way. Was it a gaffe?

Spud gave up trying to pronounce that whackjob midget's name a long time ago and now just calls him "Ahaminajihad"

Spud aint the most respectful being in blogworld, sometimes.

Working on it, though.

Not particularily hard, admittedly. ^_^

Be Well.

Hey what do you know. Joe Biden is talking on CNN.

And Sarah Palin?

Hahahahaha!

McCain didn't have a flag pin on and Obama did.

...providing that being called an "American" isn't an insult yet

obviously you already believe this.

Perhaps this idea was presented at a conspiracy theory website.

Mccain on torture

bush in the fall of 2004 put out the MCA.

McCain complained about it

the MCA was passed without any substantive changes.

mccain voted for torture.

FACT.

(sorry about that, I felt like feeling childish)

Obama was the frustrated one--surprised he didnt flip off McCain like he did with Hillary.

And when Obama says let's move on--he lost the argument..

Biden kicking ass on CNN. Great surrogate for Obama. Where's Palin?

McCain delivered one liners and Obama proved himself a man of substance and integrity tonight.

unfortunately americans tend to vote for the guy with the one liners and not for integrity.

AA, that is that proper pronunciation

#495 | Posted by realplus5 at 2008-09-26 10:58 PM

inogolo.com

Click on the audio

-And when Obama says let's move on--he lost the argument..

More like he was being talked over, talk radio style.

The one point that McCain missed tonight was that Biden voted for the Iraq resolution.

Where's Palin?

that should be the dems motto?

kind of like where's waldo?

It would gots been supa fine t'see Hillary and Palin go at it. -- Petrous, #474

NOOOOOOOOOOOO! I love Hillary, but think this debate would be a nightmare. No contest intellectually, but that doesn't matter -- a lot of people will take a good lipstick joke over superior policy expertise. Don't make me watch that!

You could tell Obama was quoting someone's talking points on foreign policy. He spoke like a professor. McCain spoke with the authority of someone who has lived it.

"When Obama said move on he lost the argument...."

You didn't understand what was going on. I'd flip it and say when McCain elected to non-responsively chew that same wad of cud for five minutes Obama won the debate.

Where's Palin, Murphy? I just saw Joe Biden on CNN. Is she too chicken to appear on national tv? Bwack. Bwack. Bwack.

unfortunately americans tend to vote for the guy with the one liners and not for integrity.

cry us a river pussy.

I wish obama had asked mccain if he was done his timeout.

McCain won the debate--

Obama was losing that argument and wanted to move on and hand waving to Lehrer to move on--

Typical lawyer..

You didn't understand what was going on.

What's new about that?

hey, check out the Arabic pronunciation of Ahmadinejad:

inogolo.com

cry us a river pussy.

#518 | Posted by eberly

bail out a billionare assface.

Biden is a camera hog.

palin is camera shy

Seriously.. I can't see a spits worth of difference between these guys policy. Obama and McCain, its two trains going to hell, they are just taking different routes.

They get on TV and argue over who's going to give away more of my money, promising to give people everything they want .. as if government giving doesn't involve government taking.

I'm sick of it, and I'm not playing along anymore. It's a one party system, they support the same crap and they can both go to hell as far as I'm concerned.

I feel like circling the presidential part of my ballot and writing "this field intentionally left blank" but I will vote for one of the 3rd party guys (except Barr.. screw him too).

Breaking news...Joe Biden appearing on network shows tonight to discuss debate...Sarah Palin hiding out in an igloo...

developing...

MURPHY---Did you actually watch this debate?

I'll take a camera shy anyday over a snake oil salesman any day.

bail out a billionare assface.

WTF does that mean?

I didn't know there was a "K" in Ahmadinejad until McCain kept saying his name that way. Was it a gaffe?

It's a mispronunciation -- names.voa.gov, but I doubt anyone will make a big deal of it.

You can't expect McCain to get Ahmadinejad's name right. He can't be bothered with that kind of thing. Just like he can't be bothered to read 2 and a half pages of an emergency bailout proposal written by his Party's leader and Administration.

bail out a billionare assface.

WTF does that mean?

#529 | Posted by eberly at

it means you are too stupid to understand

vote for an intellectual with integrity aka a democrat and we wouldnt have 8years of republican policies resulting in current financial fiasco.

get it?

probably not.

99.9% of DR folks already have their minds made up. Everyone viewed it through their own prism.

Undecided voters are the key. CBS did a live poll of undecided voters watching the debate together. 14-6 for Obama.

"It's a mispronunciation -- names.voa.gov, but I doubt anyone will make a big deal of it."

Your link didn't work, Phoenix, but try again, I'd like to hear the correct pronunciation.

well it is common knowledge that ackmaninjahedininajad and iran are training al queda

It is pretty funny about Biden being on every channel and Waldo, I mean Sarah, is missing.

Undecided voters are the key. CBS did a live poll of undecided voters watching the debate together. 14-6 for Obama.

That matches what I saw in the plus/minus ratings by IND during the debate.

Yes Zed and I took notes and counted ummms errrs ohhhh I I I I--

Obama --counted 101 times for his infamous stammers--likely missed some..and he waved to Lehrer to get off the issue--Yes let's move on Obama said.

That is the sign for --I got to get off this subject.

Obama lost--he is naive and doesn't get it and doesn't understand.

That was crystal clear.

14 out of every 6? Typical Southside Chicago math....

i figure most undecideds were waiting to see if obama was for real and could look presidential.

i think both sides did quite well, and a tie was as good as a win for obama in foreign policy

Your link didn't work, Phoenix, but try again, I'd like to hear the correct pronunciation.

Check my link post #521. Both English and Arabic pronunciations.

How about Obama's "Pockiston", Rcade?

That's the correct pronunciation.

NEXT week's VP debate will showcase the singular judgment of the presidential candidates.

I'll pray none of you McCain fans commit Hari-Kari when Palin looks like a beauty pageant 2nd place finisher and McCain's judgment is glaringly bad.

Oh Sarah! Where are you?!?

did you count how many times mccain blinked?

I lost count after 704,048,403,812,374

14 out of every 6? Typical Southside Chicago math....

#539 | POSTED BY AMERICAN1ST AT 2008-09-26 11:16 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

versus:

CBS did a live poll of undecided voters watching the debate together. 14-6 for Obama.

Let me guess. You thought McCain won, too. Egads.

-a tie was as good as a win for obama in foreign policy

There! You can say something bright. Where's that guy with the Moment of Clarity Award?

i think both sides did quite well, and a tie was as good as a win for obama in foreign policy

#540 | Posted by truthhurts

there was no tie, Obama won in foreign policy, but not in Commander-In-Chief. Obama lost that one miserably.

Economy? McCain clearly won.

This is a freaken toss up.

Obama was forced too many times to concede "I agree with John" moments.

McCain the winner.

14 out of every 6? Typical Southside Chicago math....

#539 | Posted by American1st

Uh, gee, it was right on TV...live

You're the same one who questioned Obama's notion that Saddam would keep Iran in check.

Unfortunately for you Saddam did exactly that for over 20 years with the full backing of the United States.

My dear MURPHY---Did you count McCain's stammers? Or his pained grimmaces, or the number of times he bit his lip in anger? But I'm sure your anal behavior only extends to the opposition.

And no---Despite your alleged note-taking, you did not understand that interaction---If McCain had let a fart, almost as impolite as what he was doing---Obama would also have asked Lehrer to move on.

O'Bama on points. Every round. Some more than others. I'd love to have seen a KO. McSame clearly led with his chin throughout, Barack coulda landed the haymaker making the geezer implode. Oh well, next time. Now let's see how much lipstick they get on the pig by Thursday. herm

BTW - I thought Obamma Mamma held his own...all 6" of it!

McCain seemed to only want to pick a fight.

Anyone else?

i thought obama did very well on the economy, beat mccain with that.

of course me being liberal might have something to do with it, but his postions seems more logical than mccains.

excellent question by lehrer on how bailout would change their positions, neither one could answer that.

My dear Zed--did you count the times that Obama started his sentence with "Senator McCain is right"?

How many--???

8

A presidential debate and the VP candidate is hiding in an igloo? Where's Sarah? Stop hiding Sarah!

ANAMERICAN

I clearly said the VOTE by undecided voters was

14-6

If that isn't clear, is there any other way I can write that out of 20 undecided voters in a focus group CBS News had in a room FOURTEEN thought Obama did better and SIX thought McCain did.

Obama lost--he is naive and doesn't get it and doesn't understand.

That was crystal clear.

#538 | Posted by MURPHY

I think Murphy live in some kind of twisted parallel universe, where she heard a completely different debate then the rest of us.

It's either that or Murphy was spending so much time trying to hear Obama say "um" that she didn't really hear anything else.

I know it's hard to focus on more than one thing at a time Murph, that's why you should really try to focus on the important stuff, like the dialogue.

"How many...."

MURPHY--Have to confess I don't know. I was more impressed McCain came out against killing Osama Bin laden if there was a clear chance to do so.

which ironically is one tenth the number of mccain strawmen

Null has got blue balls. Someone please find Sarah.

where is sarah?


O'Bama on points. Every round. Some more than others. I'd love to have seen a KO. McSame clearly led with his chin throughout, Barack coulda landed the haymaker making the geezer implode. Oh well, next time. Now let's see how much lipstick they get on the pig by Thursday. herm

#552 | Posted by herm

Wishful thinking, I'm afraid.
McCain had just as many "points" and had Obama on the defence most of the time, unfortunately.

McCain made Obama very weak on the economy and
weak as Commander-In-Chief.

However, Obama made himself look like the Angel of Peace himself. He clearly won the Deplomacy portion.

Where is the VP candidate Sarah Palin tonight? Moose hunting?

=McCain came out against killing Osama Bin laden if there was a clear chance to do so.

More Clarity!

Where am I?

funny how the biggest thing to come out of the debate is the disapperance of sarah palin.

Mccain has the experience--been to Georgia, Iraq Afghanistan--

Number of times MC said Obama didn't understand, naive or inexperienced ---7

Obama agress with McCain---8

I wonder how many of the "undecided voters" lied. ACORN is hard at work I see.

AU: Don't bother Analamerican and Murphy and the other apologists will never understand. They don't have the capacity.

Number of times MC said Obama didn't understand, naive or inexperienced ---7

Obama agress with McCain---8

#567 | Posted by MURPHY at

showed obama to be the one to reach across the isle and mccain to be antagonistic, creating lies

The guys are here are all holding their balls in pain. Please find Sarah! Quick!

Sarah?

MURPHY

Unfortunately, McCain isn't man enough to acknowledge Obama was right about us making a huge strategic blunder invading Iraq.

BTW, the 'surge' was a 'tactic' and not a 'strategy'. The strategy was to allow the Iraqis to get their act together, and the 'surge' was the 'tactic' to allow that to happen.

Obama's a man. McCain's an old crotchety man who wants to win the WH at any cost - abandoning his own long held principles in the process.

It takes a MAN to say an opponent is right about anything. It takes a pissy old man to never admit he's been wrong about anything.

"funny how the biggest thing to come out of the debate is the disapperance of sarah palin."

Who?

LOL, Truth. Bet you wouldn't be saying that if McCain had agreed with Obama.

mccain is looking around his hotel room, moving furniture looking for sarah


I wonder how many of the "undecided voters" lied. ACORN is hard at work I see.

#568 | Posted by anamerican

The voting was probably monitored by a far left media like CBS.

Obama is a man-child.

AA_-

ACORN is getting 20% of something from the bailout from the Dems..

Obama lost on the judgment issues--lost on the surge--the pre-conditions issue, and he agrees with McCain on Afghanistan..

obama showed himslf the level headed diplomat

mccain will have us in at least one more war.

"The Republicans nominated the wrong candidate." - Dick "Toes" Morris, comparing McCain to Rudy.

See, FOX CAN be fun!

Where is Sarah!, Murphy? What? She couldn't be bothered tonight to shill for McCain? She has more important priorities?

"funny how the biggest thing to come out of the debate is the disapperance of sarah palin."

Who?

#574 | Posted by nullifidian

youknow the vp the one who took over mccains campaign there for 3 days, you remeber her, right.

shes been all over the................

BTW, the 'surge' was a 'tactic' and not a 'strategy'. The strategy was to allow the Iraqis to get their act together, and the 'surge' was the 'tactic' to allow that to happen.---per AU

Actually Obama lost that question as well.

He doesn't understand military speech--

Yo Murphy! Where is Sarah! hiding tonight?

Obama agress with McCain---8

#567 | Posted by MURPHY

Yes, Obama is obviously ready to work in a non-partisan manor to find good solutions for the worlds problems.

So Murph, is Miss Frozen Tundra going to do any TV after the debate?

HELLO MURPHY!!!

Where is Sarah????

Why does the Dem put this Wexler guy out there--he is the biggest dunderhead of the party..

Obama is Tom Brady and Tiger Woods and Jack Kennedy rolled up into one.

Next weeks VP debate will be a slaughter.

Palin did so horribly in a 10 minute interview with Katie Couric (they left the worst Q and A on the cutting room floor if you can believe that) it's hard to fathom how she'll get through an hour and a half with Joe Biden standing next to her.

It's gonna be a rhetorical bloodbath.

he kicked mccains ass on the pre conditions issue

choice either continue isolating everyone and letting them have nukes or engage them and stop them

clear choice and obama gets it

mccain will have us in another war.


obama showed himslf the level headed diplomat

mccain will have us in at least one more war.

#580 | Posted by truthhurts

Obama wins with foreign policy
McCain wins as the Commander-In-Chief

It's a hard decision, but I'll take diplomacy.

What's that sound??? Oh....it's bursting blue balls!!! Calm down, guys. She'll come back and smile at you later.

MURPHY---McCain needs to hit a few out of the ballpark to make any significant shift in the polls.

Yes, you think your man won. I think that's pretty silly but you must at least agree that a home run McCain didn't produce.

HEY MURPHY, WHERE IS SARAH PALIN HIDING???

Actually Obama lost that question as well.

He doesn't understand military speech--

#584 | Posted by MURPHY at

he was right.

see #573

Where's Sarah?

Hiding after that National Review editorial.

Palin filibusters. She repeats words, filling space with deadwood. Cut the verbiage and there's not much content there.

If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself.

If Palin were a man, we'd all be guffawing

Only Palin can save McCain, her party, and the country she loves. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first.

Do it for your country.

article.nationalreview.com

Truth, it sounds like Obama is ready to pop Pockiston.

McCain made it look like that Obama would have lost the Iraq war and that hurt him.

However, McCain could not make Obama look bad by talking about how Obama would sit in talks with Iran. Obama came out smelling like a rose.

IIRC the moderator for the VP debate is the same reporter who had incredibly bad questions for the last debate (I cant remember whether it was VP or P in 2004). plus the debate format favors palin, short answers no interplay.

Yav, you really don't want to to link to you tube videos of the Biden bloopers and blatherings, do you?

MURKY, WHERE IS SARAH PALIN???? Why doesn't she "stand by her man"?


Truth, it sounds like Obama is ready to pop Pockiston.

#598 | Posted by anamerican

Stop funding them? YES!!!!!!!

Truth, it sounds like Obama is ready to pop Pockiston

which is what we are doing right now btw.

his point is valid we need a new strategy with pakistan. mccain's strategy of "clear and hold" seems to be incorrect since we cant invade Pakistan, but dont let anyone notice that faux pas.

Yav, you really don't want to to link to you tube videos of the Biden bloopers and blatherings, do you?

Hey, it was National Review that put the Editorial out. You know who they are, right? I was just trying to answer why Sarah might not be around tonight. That was all. I figured using a very Right Wing source would help explain it better.

I hope someone asks the candidates about their opinion on the empirial presidency and its powers

and about signing staments

Zed--McCain kept bringing up the inexperience and doesn't get it --

That sticks when someone says it 8 times.

And Obama waves off the further discussion--clearly flustered and annoyed.

I believe the moderator for the VP debate is Gwen Ifill of PBS. She's easy going, but Palin will have to fill several 90 second slots with knowledge shoved into her head.

After her Katie Couric interview, where she had trouble answering with 15 second answers without trying to tie the bailout to health care from the Cliff Notes talking points on her lap, I fear Sarah will be shown for the lightweight she is.

It IS a real negative for MCain not having a strong VP candidate on TV for him after the debate.

Oops! Found her!

"Here's the Palin post-debate dilemma as described by the New York Times:

Spinning on behalf of the Democrats on Friday night will be Joe Biden, Mr. Obama's running mate. He is expected to appear live on NBC, CBS, and CNN immediately following the debate, representatives of those networks said on Friday.

Ms. Palin is scheduled to be at a debate-viewing event in Philadelphia, covered by a limited group of reporters, and she is not listed by any networks as a post-debate guest. On NBC and CBS, the former Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani will be commenting on the debate performances. On CNN, the McCain campaign senior advisor Nicolle Wallace will appear."

alternativetulsa.blogspot.com

"#607 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-09-26 11:39 PM"

WHERE IS SARAH???? IS SHE CHICKEN? BWACK!

McCAIN WON THE FIRST DEBATE.......

And Obama waves off the further discussion--clearly flustered and annoyed.

He waved it off over sympathy for the doddering old fool McCain.

BTW, did you ever find your 20% ACORN link, or are you still pulling "facts" outta your ass?

"Oops! Found her!"

bwack!

murph I actually agree with you, I dont think it was enough to swing the debate in mccains favor, I thought on the substance obama offered more, i was a tad frustrated with obama being "nice" he should have gone for hte jugular more

i think though that mccain staring a lehrer the whole time was a mistake, obaaa conected with teh peeople and was seem as more presidential by engaging/looking at mccain, he came across as surly not engaging directly with obama

"...providing that being called an "American" isn't an insult yet" (me:>)

obviously you already believe this.

Perhaps this idea was presented at a conspiracy theory website.

#504 | Posted by eberly

Fortunately, I don't travel as much as I use to, so I don't have to hang my head in shame of our obviously insane government leaders zionistic tendencies to screw everyone else for power & profit for the elites of the world ~ who run the show.

Once I was proud to be an American. Now it's just another tag for a country I happened live in that once had some significant greatness in character ~ such as a bill of rights before the Bush era of greed & corruption truly shattered those remaining notions/illusions in these days of NSA snooping & FBI whatnots.

Perhaps an Obama Presidency can restore our country's once great legacy...perhaps

but then he might get assassinated/RFKed if he tries to do too much too fast...


McCain probably should have stopped the stunts and worked on his debate skills. The fumbling old man looked his age and resorted to catch phrases from the stump in his first debate. I see why McCain was trying to duck this debate. He got his yass handed to him. On domestic policy and foreign policy, he completely lost!

nulli the sound is

AFLACK!

Null--pour yourself another drink and relax bub--

You are way over the edge..
------------

Sympathy--ha--that is really funny--since it was Obama who was doing the waving..

Yav--it's all over the place that ACORN is supposed to get 20% of something from this bailout--from the Dems 56B they added onto the 700B bend over.

Go google it yourself.

And Obama waves off the further discussion

and since lehrer followed his direction proved himself the leader.

must go to sleep,

must admit both of em kicked bush's 6 debate performances.

Lehrer felt sorry for Obama--he lost the issue..

WHERE IS THAT CHICKENSHIT SARAH PALIN? Anybody know? In Alaska? In an "undisclosed location"?

Joe Biden is on all the networks. Where's all the Republican shitheads to explain why the Mooseturd Messiah is missing in action?

This was a good debate--

Later gators

"Later gators

#623 | Posted by MURPHY "

And Murphy runs away from the question. What a loser.

i watched it on fox and i must say all the analysts were quite fair, especially to obama - some gave him the thumbs up - so much for fox being unfair, eh?

Null--pour yourself another drink and relax bub--

You are way over the edge..

There is your answer goofy..

Just now on Nightline, George Stuffinenvelopes said, in his view, Obama won the debate.

- so much for fox being unfair, eh?

#625 | Posted by nanc

even Murdock is pro-Obama...I guess you didn't get the memo, 'eh, that's being insane is out?:>)

Obama never did say anything specific he would do to cut funding due to the economic crisis. Has he even thought about it?

Sarah! Alli Alli in come free!

McCain is nothing but an angry bitter pathetic old man.

What a sad day for Republicans and America.

Has he even thought about it?

#629 | Posted by anamerican at 2008-09-26 11:56 PM

I don't know, McSame didn't have time to read the 3 page bailout proposal over a 48 hr period, during which he wanted to cancel tonights debate to "work on the economy", so apparently they're really busy. Either that or McSame is a lying rightwing hack.
Meet the new boss....same as the old boss.

I want to see somebody who can embrace the future, try new things, pay attention to whom we fight and why/tell the truth, wants to find alternative energy so we are beholden to no nation, pay as we go, chop your credit cards, go back to when we didn't live beyond our means, quit wasting money, take care of our security, seriously, stop the war, bring the troops home from Iraq, take the money we save and start a FDR-style works project, get us ready for the future, fix OUR country for once, there are so many things we have to do it just goes on and on. take all that money we've been wasting and spend it on schools and teachers, we should be finding ways to help each other. this whole culture of waste and consumerism and greed/fraud/war/is blasphemous and it can't last. Lord help us.

Cain has been there too long.

And McSame has no problem calling his wife a cunt in front of journalists, so he's got that goin' for him.

I don't know, McSame didn't have time to read the 3 page bailout proposal over a 48 hr period, during which he wanted to cancel tonights debate to "work on the economy", so apparently they're really busy. Either that or McSame is a lying rightwing hack.
Meet the new boss....same as the old boss.

#632 | Posted by briwo at 2008-09-27 12:00 AM

Yeh, I noticed Barry "earmark" Obama wanted to hint a connection. He does know there is a world of difference between Bush and McCain, doesn't he?

Undecided voters already know who John McCain used to be. All they've been waiting for is to hear more from and get comfortable with the idea of Obama as President.

Tonight went a long way towards that end.

McCain's pick of Sarah Palin will further hurt his candidacy next week when she makes an utter fool of herself. Her 10 minutes with Couric was a disaster, and she had talking points on her lap, yet still did horribly.

Now that the 'foreign policy' debate is over, the next two will be primarily on the economy - where Obama will win hands down as he is now.

Another round of empty rhetoric by the 'affirmative action' kid...lots of words, no substance.... and, who DOES NOT GET IT in any sense of reality nor intelligence... a backpeddling display of ignorance....well, except to spud who is so deep in weed that he has trouble threaded a coherent statement...

THAT POW WELL JUST RAN DRY!

MCCAIN DOESN'T HAVE THE STUFF.

THE PALIN BIDEN DEBATE WILL JUST BE AWFUL FOR REPUBLICANS.

THIS RACE IS OVER!!!!

44TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES -

BARACK - YES- HUSSEIN - OBAMA!!!!

"Null--pour yourself another drink and relax bub--"

Where is the chickenshit Sarah Palin? Hiding in an igloo?

He does know there is a world of difference between Bush and McCain, doesn't he?

#635 | Posted by anamerican

Which is?

Wasn't that him in the flight jacket declaring victory in Iraq?

Bill, we need you over at the music thread buddy.

Stickman, you can either vote for someone who has every intention of taking your money (that is unless you don't work enough to pay taxes) and getting this country deeper in debt with more social programs and weaking our military in the process or you can vote for someone who veto any bill that has added earmarks and is devoted to getting us out of Iraq responsibly.

I can't sway your vote. But Barry "a wing and a prayer" Obama is risky.

He does know there is a world of difference between Bush and McCain, doesn't he?

#635 | Posted by anamerican at 2008-09-27 12:03 AM

McSame's voting record shows he voted with Bush 95-100% of the time.
Is that the wingnut definition of a "world of difference?"

Oh yeah, and they were both shitty pilots. Bush was barely a C/D student and McSame finished 494th out of 496 in his Annapolis class( this with an Admiral for a Father).

Whichever candidate wins the POTUS, we the people, LOSE!

"Bill, we need you over at the music thread buddy."

I'm on my way, pal. Just need to finish up some business on other threads first.

Where is the chickenshit Sarah Palin hiding out tonight? Anybody know?

Certainly a substantial debate. A good listen, and a good read later to review.

McCain was certainly the most aggressive of the two. He frequently referred to Obama as "naive," and touted his own experience. He also mentioned several times that Obama was wrong about the Iraq "surge" success. On the other hand, McCain made several non-sensical statements and certainly made many references in foreign policy which were the equivalent of "either you're with us or you're against us." Especially puzzling is his insistence on "pre-conditions" in talks with Iran. Such a term is puzzling and distracting at best; nonsensical and almost a non sequitur at worst.

Obama was certainly a better speaker and stayed on a more disciplined message. but he missed a great chance by not directly answering the question "what will you cut in the budget to pay for the bailout?" (I'm paraphrasing the question here. If he HAD answered specifically (neither candidate did), he would have scored big. McCain put him on the defensive about the surge's success several times. Why didn;t he respond with: "The surge succeeds only in its current combination of post-ethnic cleansing, mass exodus of population, partitioning of Baghdad with a Berlin-type wall, and bribing of insurgents. The surge itself is not responsible for anything." This obvious response has eluded Obama so far.

My opinion of the debate: McCain is the more seasoned on foreign policy, but also the more unstable and unpredictable. Obama is the more reasoned domestic candidate, but missed chances to refute McCain.

Did they show a view from the back? Did McCain have box under his jacket?

I can't sway your vote. But Barry "a wing and a prayer" Obama is risky.

#642 | Posted by anamerican

I'll take any wing & prayer over a certified loon who sings public songs about bombing Iran

Anamerican wrote:
"Stickman, you can either vote for someone who has every intention of taking your money (that is unless you don't work enough to pay taxes) and getting this country deeper in debt with more social programs and weaking our military in the process or you can vote for someone who veto any bill that has added earmarks and is devoted to getting us out of Iraq responsibly."

I couldn't disagree more with all of your points.

Everybody pays taxes, so your inference that poor people don;t pay taxes is bullshit. If you are referring to income taxes only, what is your self-righteous judgment about corporations (MANY) that pay no taxes?

You imply by your statement that our military is strong now. How wrong you are! Our military is stretched thin, both numerically and tactically, in many theatres. How long do you think the economy and the manpower can sustain the surge? A year? Two?
The logical inference is that CONTINUED presence long-term in Iraq weakens both the military and the American economy.

You assert that McCain will veto any earmarks. One man's earmark is another man's necessary rider. Any bill has many parts...will you insist that a President McCain veto any bill with multiple line items?

Your last point talks about getting out of Iraq "responsibly," by both your candidate's comments tonight would be....when? McCain will never state any kind of target or timeline. Indeed, he won't and never has insisted on any deadline for Iraq or its army to wean itself from our shitting money down their toilet.

Sorry, I don't drink that kool-aid. American security begins at home, and we should take care of that first. If Iraq can't stand up for itself after six years, when will it...ever?

Why is everyone hung up on Palin's location tonight? I thought this was about the McCain/Obama debate.

"Why is everyone hung up on Palin's location tonight?"

I don't know. Where is that moron? Joe Biden has been all over the networks shilling for Obama tonight. Where's Palin? Doesn't the McMoron campaign trust her to shill for McCain?

SAMBARBER

It will stand up after we leave.

The good news is that the American public will only be subjected to two more of these spectacles. Thank God Obama blew off McCain's offer for 10 debates; Godalmighty--just one was bad enough.

The bad news is that, barring some unforeseen third-party miracle, one of these morons will be in our living room for the next four years.

Two quick questions for the Son of Man from Illinois, though: if "we are the change we've been waiting for", what do we need you for? And if you seem to agree with "John" (Senator McCain to the rest of us) on so much, ummm, what do we need you for?

I don't know. Where is that moron? Joe Biden has been all over the networks shilling for Obama tonight.
* * * *

If he needs a Joe Biden to shill for him, maybe it's Obama who's the moron. Or desperate.

I actually didn't know Biden was on tonight. I would rather watch him instead, so I can catch his gaffe-0-matic-of-the-day live, rather than seeing it on YouTube first thing tomorrow morning.

"I don't know. Where is that moron? Joe Biden has been all over the networks shilling for Obama tonight. Where's Palin? Doesn't the McMoron campaign trust her to shill for McCain?"

But what's the point of that? Of course, Biden is gonna go on and on about how Obama was great tonight. Do we need this puppet show? The ACTUAL DEBATE was what I wanted to see. Whether it was Biden or Palin, I don't need biased commentary on a debate I just watched myself. If you want to hear Biden tell you what you thought of the debate...fine...but I find it to be pointless marketing. I can make up my own mind. And my mind tells me....Pray for better candidates in 2012.

wish this fellow's cartoons were in the USA Today everyday...

Newspaper Cartoonist Fired for Political Artwork

Former New Zealand Herald Political cartoonist Malcolm Evans was awarded the Qantas Media Awards 2003 Cartoonist of the Year.

His work caused controversy and resulted in him leaving the Herald.

www.youtube.com

strangely enough I thought both of them were pretty much equal. I really think the best president/vp combo would be McCain/Obama. They should both ditch the lightweights they've got and run together.

Also I would like to know which social programs have driven this country into so much debt.

Compared to how much we are spending each DAY in Iraq? I thought the moron on the top branch in the monkey zoo stated that "our operational shit in Iraq" was at an end! If the war is over then bring the fucking troops home you damn moron!!

The only social program I see is the one we are trying to build in a foreign country. NOT OUR OWN.

Dems Block Iran Blockade Call

As the campaign season heats to boiling and the fiscal ship ploughs towards that iceberg, it's time for some good news - Dems have blocked "sense of the Congress" amendments that would have rubberstamped a naval blockade of Iran. Any such blockade would be an act of war.

www.atlargely.com

"Bomb Bomb McCain" must have lost the debate tonite.

"If he needs a Joe Biden to shill for him, maybe it's Obama who's the moron. Or desperate."

Or maybe the McCain campaign realizes their VP candidate is a fucking imbecile!

"Of course, Biden is gonna go on and on about how Obama was great tonight."

Sure. And why didn't Palin do the same thing? Is it because the McCain campaign thinks she's too stupid?

But maybe she had urgent business in Alaska.

I was very disappointed to hear Obama say he wanted to help build up Georgia's
(the one next to Russia) economy.

Isn't it about time someone who wants to be President talks about spending a few bucks here at home? We have enough problems with our own economy, our infrastructure needs plenty of work, and I'm fed up with taking care of everyone else's country (Iraq, Israel, Georgia, etc.) and spending billions of dollars on other countries -- particulary when the billions $$$ we send to foreign countries we have to borrow it ourselves to be able to give it away.

Makes no sense at all.

again..what's the point??? we know Biden will kiss Obamas ass, and Palin would kiss McCains. Would you really learn anything from those broadcasts? Why not just listen to the debate and make up your own mind?

As someone who tries to be fair, I think they both were pretty good. I am definetly NOt voting for Obama because of what I learned about the DEMS and this " Community Reinvestment Act" And once again any one who questioned it was a "bigot' and a
'racist"..But I digress...

Democrats ..the Ultimate Predatory Lenders

McCain is not an orator, everyone knows he is a doer. but I just can't stop feeling like everything that comes out of Obama's mouth is planned and not true.

I really Like Joe Biden, too bad he is a democrat, and I am sure he will crush Sarah, But her personality and honest authentism is what people like.

But this bailout thing is what really irkes me, the Dems want to blame Bush, but this started in 1995, and Freddie mac and fannie mae juts ended up being places where democrats go to get rich

CNN telephone poll of 524 respondents. Here are the numbers they announced on air:

Debate winner:
Obama 51 - McCain 38

Iraq:
Obama 52 - McCain 47

Economy:
Obama 58 - McCain 37

[Update] Obama won with viewers over 50 by a margin of 48%-40%

Obama kicked McCain's ass.

CBS News poll of Undecideds

Who Won the Debate?

Obama - 40%
McCain- 22%
Tie --- 38%

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Opinion of Obama

Better - 46%
Worse -- 07%
Same --- 46%

i9.photobucket.com

Make Right Decisions About Economy

Obama - 68%
McCain- 41%

i9.photobucket.com

(I know those last two number don't equal 100%, but that's what the visual says)

hillbillyjihad

im looking for more links out there about the CRA (than just a youtube video).
thank you.

when 'clinton' modified the CRA in 1995, who controlled congress?
that seems like a valid question to me?

PIC - 1960...I'd like you to meet 2008

I paid 5.00 a gallon of gas tonight.

RASTA

Sorry to hear that (about the gas).

We've had shortages around here. Half the gas stations are just plain closed.

One of my cars is a diesel, and I've been paying $5 a gallon for at least a month. Luckily, most of the stations still have diesel, so my other car sits with 3/4 of a tank until needed.

Just once more:

A Picture's Worth a Thousand Words

I didn't know there was a "K" in Ahmadinejad until McCain kept saying his name that way. Was it a gaffe?

All Muslims have an "ack" or "al" or "bin" or "hussein" SOMEWHERE in their name.

Right?

-Johnny Mack.

Obama is Tom Brady and Tiger Woods and Jack Kennedy rolled up into one.

#589 | Posted by Corky

* * * *

Injured and out for the season, injured and out for the season, and dead?

Or are you just being your usual, fickle self? Godalmighty--now that the Hillary bandwagon has fallen into the ditch, you sure haven't minded becoming Obama's new cheerleader.

The King is dead! Long live the King!

i was listening to that ahole savage tonight and he mentioned that Mccain and Bush probably have an October surprise planned.

RIR I can't wait to see you finally pay your fair share of taxes under Obama.

Bush tried

Bear-Stearns first to bite..first to die

Trillion dollar bank fraud

Well here is a few articles about it, Try gooling some yourself

"I paid 5.00 a gallon of gas tonight."

Wow. We're at $3.50-3.60 in Houston.

Frank Luntz - Republican Pollster :

VIDEO: FOX News Focus Group - Obama Wins Debate

the date which will live in infamy

One more for you

"he mentioned that Mccain and Bush probably have an October surprise planned."

any ideas?

And on the CRA, If you oppsed it. You were a "bigot and a "racist'..The dems used the race card and there demogoging has cost us 700 billion dollars.

HILLBILLY

It's kind of ludicrous to blame Democrats when we've had a Republican President for 7 1/2 years, and a GOP Congress until a year ago January.

January 20th, 2001 things were going well here.

I don't get your reasoning. You're trying to place blame where it doesn't belong. These have been George W Bush's and the GOP's foreign and domestic agendas since January 20, 2001.

Barak "I've got a bracelet too" Obama 2008

And here is the bill Hagel offered with McCain, Dole ands Sununu to stop Freddie mac and fannie mae and was killed in the banking committee..Good ole Chris Dodd

Senate bill S-190..would have saved us?

Nielson is estimating 52.7 million watched the debates

Term Limits

I am not blaming democrats, I am blaming Chris Dodd and Barney Frank for covering for them and Bush for not doing more to stop this. I just get tired of hearing 'It's the same ole Bush policies that caused this'..hell barack obama sued a bank because they wouldn't give a guy a sub-prime loan..So Just remember your guys are as bad as mine..and if you don't think so, we are in a world of trouble worse than you could ever imagine

hillbilly
thanks for the links

also look up, um, the gull-steagall act and the gramm-leach-bliley act too.

i think those greatly 'exacerbated' the problem, pehaps more so than clinton's 'social' engineering or whatever.

the race card thing...im not interested in, im just trying to figure out the financial policy as it changed over the years.

...

good ole phil gramm?

Fix New Orleans and Galveston first.

McCain made one mistake.

He forgot to apply wax before he polished the floor with Barack Osama.

BO looked like the petulant child he is, not a CIC.

Unless you're a far left American or a schizophrenic Canadian(he who must remain unnamed or else you get deleted), you have to give round one to McCain.

HILLBILLY

Quit trying to blame Democrats for the fucked up state of our country.

The GOP had total control of Congress and the WH and did whatever they wanted to.

You gonna bring Clinton into it ... again?

Come on, man. W and the GOP Congress were disastrous for America with proven results domestically and overseas. We weren't in this mess until they took their shot at 'free market, trickle down economics' and 'unilateralism' abroad with our military.

Just own the mess and let's get on with things. Maybe the GOP will have learned a lesson, and can rid itself of the foolishness of Neoconservatism and Social Conservatism so we can get on with governance instead of fighting over stupid, personal decisions and start concentrating on bailing out and righting the ship before we all sink together.

Thanks to W and Dick "Deficits Don't Matter" Cheney (turns out they DO matter), we're paying nearly HALF A TRILLION a year to service the national debt. We're just about to add another TRILLION on top of the HALF A TRILLION this year's deficit will be.

The GOP blew it. The Democrats had very little to do with any of it. Just admit it and let's move on to saving this country. We're in HUGE trouble in too many areas right now for foolishness.

I concur, But I don't understand how partisans will not open there eyes, they all suck, I live in JD Heyworth's district I didn't vote for him becuasae he was a crook, and I got stuck with Harry mitchell, but he's not a crook...yet..so why do you people take up for crooks on your side

Americanunity

You are a Huge Knucklehead.. I voted for Bush twice, i am not happy with him, But your blind...and an oxygen thief, so your comments of partisan drivel is ignored

HILLBILLY

It might surprise you to know that I've only been a 'partisan' for less than 10 years.

I've voted for many GOP candidates nationally and locally in my 30 years of voting, but when the GOP turned into the party of Jerry Falwell, and tried to remove a sitting President by any means necessary, they lost their appeal.

The disastrous Presidency of George W Bush, and the arrogance and greed of the GOP Congress finished the job.

Perhaps if the GOP ever returns to being the party of Eisenhower (so to speak) I can consider voting for another GOP Presidential candidate again.

"barack obama sued a bank because they wouldn't give a guy a sub-prime loan"

You're joking, right? The issue in that case was redlining.

And as I retire for my friday night

remember

"Arise my Hillbilly Brotherern..for the Jihad is upon us"

AU, NCC looks close to blow up

Yes, redlining someone who could not afford it..why is it so hard to understand that Low-income means.."LOW_INCOME" in other woirds.."UNABLE TO AFFORD A MORTGAGE PAYMENT"..that is not racist, it is called good-business sense

"Arise my Hillbilly Brotherern..for the Jihad is upon us"

For some reason I have to picture you in a hood when you say shit like that LOL

I live in the buckle of the Bible Belt.

Most hillbillies down here aren't doing so well....

If he wants a free house...Call Jimmy Carter and have him build him one

"redlining someone who could not afford it.."

That's not what redlining is all about. In that case, the buyer could afford it.

AU, NCC looks close to blow up

#699 | Posted by realplus5

NCC? Can you clarify?

it is a hillbilly way of saying..This crap has to stop..politicians are killing us and it's time to take our country back..this Hillbilly is doing quite well ....for now

National City Corp (NCC)

and who decides who can afford it..they guy asking for the money ..OR THE GUY LENDING IT

REALPLUSS

Ah, Thanks.

HILLBILLY

Glad you're doing OK ... for now.

But, it's starting to spread. I can't help but blame the politicians who got us in this mess, and from my perspective, in recent times the GOP would have to take 99% of the blame when comparing things 8 years ago til now.

I'm hoping we can turn this ship around.

Have a good night, man.

"who decides who can afford it..they guy asking for the money ..OR THE GUY LENDING IT"

The guy lending it.

But if the guy lending it loans it to Mr A, and doesn't loan it to (similar or better scoring) Mr B because of redlining, that's illegal.

HILLBILLY

Are you aware that across the country African-Americans with identical credit scores to whites pay a higher mortgage rate? A recent study showed that some pay as much as 4% more with identical incomes and credit scores. That's called 'Redlining'.

It's time to put all this racial stuff behind us, and yes, get this government working for us again.

One reason I've been supporting Obama is that he's been instrumental in limiting the role of lobbyists throughout his career in politics.

I've seen lobbyists ON the Senate floor. I had a VIP pass from a Congressman friend of mine years ago, and I couldn't go down there, but the 5 or 6 lobbyists who walked into the Senate Chamber with Senators coming to speak to no one but the Congressional Record could - and sat on cushy, overstuffed couches. That pissed me off. Ridding the influence of lobbyists on our government is the NUMBER ONE thing we need to do. With McCain's top staff 100% comprised of the top lobbyists in Washington, he's not the man to do it IMHO.

Well, great to watch the debate tonight. I'm glad everyone else did too. About time we got involved in our political process. Perhaps people now realize their votes DO make a difference.

Nite you all.

McCain made one mistake.

He forgot to apply wax before he polished the floor with Barack Osama.

BO was exposed for the petulant child he is.

"Just imagine if the GOP had still been in control of Congress right now. They'd have rubber stamped Bush's proposal and we'd have been even more royally screwed."

You're absolutely right.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely, which is the main reason i'm voting for McCain.

Posted by babuenthal

too bad your candidate is insane...

"He forgot to apply wax before he polished the floor with Barack Osama.

BO was exposed for the petulant child he is."

What fuckin crack are you smoking? I'm watching the rerun right now and Obama's responses are clear, concise and well spoken. McCain keeps repeating the same lines and attacks on Obama's positions and appears to become more and more desperate as the exchanges progress (he almost looks relieved when the next question is asked).

McCain is making some good points and I'm reminded of why I respected him before this election cycle began but compared to Obama he appears shrill and desperate at times.

also look up, um, the gull-steagall act and the gramm-leach-bliley act too.

i think those greatly 'exacerbated' the problem, pehaps more so than clinton's 'social' engineering or whatever.

the race card thing...im not interested in, im just trying to figure out the financial policy as it changed over the years.
...
good ole phil gramm?

#690 | Posted by NoPants at 2008-09-27 01:56 AM

yup. Phil Gramm's Credit Sawps, too.

And don't forget Shrub's "American Dream" Homeownership Challenge, thought up and packaged for him by some devious PNAC'ers, and I suspect it was intentional:

www.whitehouse.gov

again, for the losers: RP would turn over my Constitutionally Guaranteed Right [read: protected by a Federal Government, its officers and agents] to consume any plant I want to 50 [State] separate (

again, for the losers: RP would turn over my Constitutionally Guaranteed Right [read: protected by a Federal Government, its officers and agents] to consume any plant I want to 50 [State] separate (see that?) governments who he says may choose to protect it or not.

now THERE'S a man who will protect Constitutional Liberty and Freedom. NOT!

get a frakkin clue.

Libertarian Socialism will succeed where we are now, if we are fortunate enough not to blow up or imprison ourselves first.

"In times of peace the warlike man attacks himself."
"The creative man is motivated by achievement, not the desire to beat others."
"If God doesn't exist everything is to be prohibited."

Were the ol ears playing tricks on me, or did McCain say that what was going on in Abu Ghraib and what is prolly still going on in Gitmo was and is torture?

God damnit, rush limbaugh assured me that it was only harmless jokes that you would find i any frat house on any college campus being played on willing participants who were having a good ol time.

Obama gave one of his strongest debate performances tonight. McCain was good himself, but his contempt for Obama and his refusal to address him directly made him look like a hothead in my opinion.

#478 | Posted by rcade

Not sure what you were watching, but everytime they had both on the screen at the same time, Barry was shooting him his best "I'm gonna kill you whitey" looks. That is where I saw the contempt. Barry has no concept of the average American. McCain = Country First. Barry = Barry First. Neither one of these guys are very good debaters...

McCain is a bitter angry old man who would not even look Obama in the eye.

The Surge is working when we now have more soldiers in Iraq than when the surge started and we will win in Iraq when there is nothing to win.

This is all McCain has !!

Barry really kicked McCain in the Balls with his comment about McCain singing the "BOMB BOMB BOMB....BOMB BOMB IRAN" song.

McCain was so angry he may have put a few brown skid marks in his "Depends" underwear.

According to McCain, as he was working his way through scowls, mutterings, facial tics and whatever else ails him, on the eve of the Normandy invasion Eisenhower---planning for as many contingencies as he could think of---wrote "a letter of resignation from the United States Army for the failure of the landings at Normandy."

This is simply not true.

Eisenhower did write a worst-case letter, one that was to be released had the invasion failed. It was not, however, a letter of resignation. There's not one word about resignation in that document. He did, however, take full personal responsibility for the catastrophe.

If oaks grow from acorns, large lies are birthed from the small lies that a man like McCain tells on a regular basis.

From that, McCain lurched on to say, "I called for the resignation of the chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission."

This is simply not true. McCain didn't call for SEC chairman Christopher Cox's resignation. What McCain said was, "If I were president today, I would fire him."

More acorns, more oaks; small lies becoming greater deceptions.

Is this man even capable of telling the truth?

Throughout the sorry spectacle, as he scowled and growled, grimaced and groaned, this sorry excuse for a presidential nominee by a major political party acted as if he dind't know the cameras were on him.

And this is the man the GOP wants to saddle us with as POTUS for however long he survives before Palin takes over at the helm?

"I'm gonna kill you whitey" looks.
#720 | Posted by CLINTONISKING at 2008-09-27 07:39

Ah, yes, the Bradley Effect.
Do all black people scare you?
Maybe you should turn on the night light.

he almost looks relieved when the next question is asked).

Obama did look relieved the questions were over more than once. The $932 million in earmarks certainly hit home. Obama's response claiming he quit asking for them? Or the $18 billion in total earmarks wasn't a lot of money? Both comments put Obama on the defensive and in my opinion this will continue through out the campaign. Another area Obama was glad the topic changed was Pakistan or Afghanistan. McCain reminded Obama he had been to those Country's as well as many others in the region. He continued to repeat his National Security resume over the years and Obama had nothing in return. Again this should be the focus of McCain's campaign.

Wouldn't it be great if McCain brought a walking cane with him to the next debate and tried to hit Obama with it every time he got pissed off?

Wouldn't it be great if McCain brought a walking cane with him to the next debate and tried to hit Obama with it every time he got pissed off?

Or a yardstick. There were some moments McCain was trying to school Obama.

Or a yardstick. There were some moments McCain was trying to school Obama.

#724 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2008-09-27 09:28 AM | Reply

On how to suspend your Presidential campaign claiming there is an economic crisis and then change your mind less than 24 hours later?

On how to suspend your Presidential campaign claiming there is an economic crisis and then change your mind less than 24 hours later?

Claiming? Explain how the leader of the democratic party thinks he is not needed in Washington? He will inherit this situation and he doesn't think he should attend? Or have a say in the final decisions? Yeah that's real presidential.

I've seen an awful lot of Palin comments on this thread from DR lefties - I take that as a signal that they see this as I did - McCain won.

Obama performed reasonably well, as well as he probably could given that he was over-matched on the primary topic. He gave some good answers and he landed some punches. Having said that, he also tended to be more vague and theoretical than McCain. Twice during the debate he turned one of McCain's phrases around and threw it back at McCain. The first time he did it, it came off as clever. The second time, it came off as trite and lawyerly. I DID like his 'having tea' comment. He had some success tying McCain to Bush, but he pushed it too hard IMO, and came off a bit desperate as a result.

McCain demonstrated a breadth of knowledge that can only come with experience. He came off as more confident, more knowledgeable and more 'trustworthy' on this subject. He had some success painting Obama as naive and inexperienced, but at times he pushed it too hard and came off a bit desperate as a result. He also came off as at least a bit condescending toward Obama, I am not sure how that will play out with the public.

Both candidates performed better than I expected. McCain particularly so - but that may just be a result of the frequency in which DR Lefties paint him as stupid. Having that theme hammered home, I even began to believe it. Well, McCain dispelled that bullshit tonight.

Given that McCain won this debate (IMO) with far-less last-minute preparation and IF he plays a role and a reasonably good piece of legislation regarding the lending market crisis is reached, he can probably expect a nice little bump in the polls.

We'll see in a few days.

The DOW went up 121 Points yesterday...I hope the economic crisis continues !!!

Thank John McCain you Maverick !! Even though you said you would suspend your campaign until a firm bailout bill was in place in Congress on the economy...you are so fucking good and solved this crisis so effectively...you could continue your campaign without the deal even being iin place !!!

I'm voting for you John MCain...because you're one goy who has got his shit together

My real worry is that if we leave Iraq ...they will follow us home and attack all of us here in America.

The tumult and the shouting die. And a report appears on "the other Drudge."

{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...

MCCAIN
67% 176,817

OBAMA
31% 80,565

NEITHER
2% 6,047

Total Votes: 263,429

Much ado about nothing at this stage of the game.

#722 | Posted by crispee_oc at 2008-09-27 09:18 AM

Another area Obama was glad the topic changed was Pakistan or Afghanistan. McCain reminded Obama he had been to those Country's as well as many others in the region. He continued to repeat his National Security resume over the years and Obama had nothing in return. Again this should be the focus of McCain's campaign.

Base canards. Infamous calumnies.

Obama indeed has been to Pakistan. He traveled there on his Indonesian passport with his Pakistani druggie friends. Obama may have traveled to Pakistan while he was "on an extended high," so his recollection of his activities may be a bit muddled, or it might just be another unseemly period of his life that he'd rather be ignored.

Druggie. Traveling on an Indonesian passport as an adult living in America. Mentored by America-denouncer, racist hate-monger Rev. Wright for 20 years. Intimate buddy of domestic terrorist "Bomber Bill" Ayers. That's just for starters. I read Michelle's "thesis" again, and it is explicit in her goal and declared dedication to securing preference for blacks. Barack and Michelle are in the same car.

The extensive brain damage Obama has suffered due to his drug use is obvious.

There is a question regarding the Ayers-Obama relationship that no one seems to have asked. "Bomber Bill" is an unregenerate fringe extremist, who has not renounced his terrorist activities that killed Americans, and who thinks that his former girl friend and her "comrades," who were killed while making a bomb intended to kill hundreds of Army noncoms at a party at Ft. Dix, should be considered a heroine for her terrorist undertakings. "Bomber Bill" has been a dedicated unrepentant ideologue.

The question: Why has "Bomber Bill" Ayers been so dedicated to promoting Barack Obama's political career and candidacy since the overriding motivation demonstrated in Ayer's life has been his unwavering dedication to advancing his extremist fringe revolutionary program? Is Ayers so interested in advancing Obama because he believes he and Obama are kindred souls and are seeking the same goal?

Don't ask why Obama wants Ayers. Ask what the domestic terrorist ideologue Ayers sees as the outcome of his efforts to advance Obama's political career.

I read Michelle's "thesis" again, and it is explicit in her goal and declared dedication to securing preference for blacks

Posted by Johnson

With bigots at every turn affirmative active is necessary to this day. What really needs to happen is reparations. this country can't move forward unless we make up for the past. My research has shown me about 100,000 per black person is fair.

"What really needs to happen is reparations. this country can't move forward unless we make up for the past. My research has shown me about 100,000 per black person is fair."

#733 | Posted by rastaninja at 2008-09-27 10:10 AM

Really? Not to mention that our country cannot even afford that, that is a terrible idea. It will NOT end racism, it will only continue it. Research also shows programs such as affirmative action are creating reverse racism and increasing animosity between races. What we don't need is MORE division between races. We need less grouping and identifiable gifts to certain groups because that will continue racism.

CNN BREAKING NEWS !!!!

"Sarah Palin's daughter Bristol is having trouble with her pregnancy. Palin cancels October 2nd debate with Joe Biden indefinitely!! "

or

"Sarah Palin is having significant urination frequency problems and must cancel the debate with Senator Biden"

Anybody want this bet ???

Reparations will allow blacks to finally rise up and be business owners instead of slaves to the oppressive white man. Blacks need an opportunity to create their own wealth. This transfer of wealth needs to happen.

Reparations will allow blacks to finally rise up and be business owners instead of slaves to the oppressive white man. Blacks need an opportunity to create their own wealth. This transfer of wealth needs to happen.

#736 | Posted by rastaninja at 2008-09-27 10:33 AM | Reply | Flag

What about poor hispanics? Poor Asians? Poor Whites? Don't they need to have the opportunity to be business owners?

More over, if you say "Blacks need an opportunity to create their own wealth" why are we giving them wealth in the first place? We live in a great country where people can start with nothing and end wealthy.

I don't disagree that we need to provide more assistance to poor people. They should have help on their way up the socioeconomic ladder. But to single out a specific race and say, we will help Blacks but not Hispanics only increases racism!

Time fer a strategy that works and has some honor.

Be Well.

#295 | Posted by dethspud
--------------------------
You mean there is honor in SNOWbama telling the Iraqi's to stall negotiations until he get's in office? The last time I looked that bordered on treason but don't let that stop you from talking about honor.

Lonnie

"
Obama gave one of his strongest debate performances tonight. McCain was good himself, but his contempt for Obama and his refusal to address him directly made him look like a hothead in my opinion.

Clearly Obama passed the presidential test. (McCain did too, but he's not a candidate who needed to pass it after decades in the Senate.)

I didn't know there was a "K" in Ahmadinejad until McCain kept saying his name that way. Was it a gaffe?"

#475 | Posted by rcade

I didn't get to see the debate (I was playin' some congas at the moment).

But this is pretty much what I've heard/gathered. Both did well, McCain could've done better with the eye contact both to Obama and to the camera. Obama showed that he could be presidential. I'm sure the partisan hacks are all over the place declaring complete and total victory and a landslide in November.

Kind of wiped out the talking point that McCain was either afraid or unprepared to debate Obama, though.

They both were prepared and came off confident, both blew it on 'bailout package' answer. Obama, however was weak at ever answering a direct question about what he would cut, he showed he only understands spending and especially right now we cannot afford a man like that in office! Poor Jim had to ask him 3 times and never got a straight answer. McCain, missed his opportunity to ask Obama to look into the camera and tell the American people that it is his wish that Saddam Huissein was still in power in Iraq, because that is what he told us by commenting on a vote that he never had to make!

I am always for substance as well, but if we are going to talk about McCain not making eye contact with Obama, which I saw and I think made him seem stuck up, lets not forget Obama's constant interrupting. If we want to judge charecter, I would say that would make Obama self-centered. He doesn't want to listen to anybody but himself and on many occasions he would interrupt for the sake of interrupting, not allowing McCain to make his point. The American people deserve better than that. They deserve to hear McCain's points just as much as Obama's points.

Someone please tell Dethspud that Saddam paid terrorist suicide bombers $25,000 apiece for blowing up Jewish folks, funding terrorists is old hat for this guy. We saved so many lives from that killer, so get in the real world. I guess you wish Saddam was still in power just like your buddy Obama, now just admit it to all of us readers, we'd like to see you spell it out for us!

Someone please tell Dethspud that Saddam paid terrorist suicide bombers $25,000 apiece for blowing up Jewish folks.

~GoofBall Puker

A position he took a little late in the game. Saudi Arabia (America's so-called ally in the war on terror) pays waaay more fer terrorism in Israel and has fer a far longer time. Same can be sed fer others in the region.

After Bush tricked Saddam into attacking Kuwait in the first place he did this faux conversion thing. He pretended to be a devout Muslim in porder to garner support after the first Gulf War left him weakened. Changed the flag and everything. The payments to suicide bombers were all part of that cynical conversion.

I guess you wish Saddam was still in power just like your buddy Obama, now just admit it to all of us readers, we'd like to see you spell it out for us!

Spud woulda preferred that the Iraqis took Saddam out themselves with only tacit support from the US. They were encouraged to do so by the first Booshling and then when they did stand up to Saddam no support came and they were slaughtered.

A full fledged assault and invasion/occupation was never warranted here.

America has an unfortunate history of supporting some of the globes worst tyrants to the point of commiting coup d'etats on democratically elected and populist leaders and installing dictators who murder, torture and terrorise their own people all in the name of sweetheart deals fer western based corporations. Ergo, any claims of noble purpose in Iraq must be taken with a big grain o' salt.

Do try and learn a little sommat about yer own history before you come around trying to stab Spud with yer unsharpened crayons.

Yer just making a fool out of yerself.

Be Well.

Well Spud, Keep living in your conspircy world and i'll stick with the facts from investigative journalists (lost art btw) and from the mouths of those who served. Saudi's cut Bin Laden off years before then he was forced to leave Sudan stripped of most his assets and Zawahiri reluctantly had to ally with him because he too was broke. They camped in Afganistan aided by his friends in, yes Iraq. Be assured Saddam was never going to be taken down unless Bush and Blair did it. Don't forget how excited Hillary was when Wolfawitz said "we got him", she couldn't wait to pronounce how proud she was of her vote to remove this tyrant. I deal in facts and facts only, and the fact is Obama would have Saddam still in power if he had his way, period. -we just disagree/ Be well also

Saudi's cut Bin Laden off years before then he was forced to leave Sudan stripped of most his assets and Zawahiri reluctantly had to ally with him because he too was broke. They camped in Afganistan aided by his friends in, yes Iraq

~GBP

The Saudis officially stopped supporting Osama a while back yes, but that doesn't mean that SA is not, still to this day, one of the biggest supporters of Islamic extremism.

15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis after all.

AQ have never been broke and the sympathy that has been engendered by Bush's misadventures in Iraq has assured more contributions to the cause.

Please provide some kind of basis fer yer insinuation that Osama in Afghanistan was being supported by Iraq.

Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden were mortal enemies.

I deal in facts and facts only, and the fact is Obama would have Saddam still in power if he had his way, period.

Between a full fledged invasion/occupation and absolute support of a brutal dictator there are many different options.

Keep living in yer black and white world if you must but don't imagine you have a corner on the facts market.

None of us do.

Be Well.

It was actually pretty close but this was supposed to be McCain's strongest subject. Obama seemed very well prepared and handled himself well. If this was the hardest debate for Obama then he should be able to clean up in the next two (we will see) Even is if this was a tie Obama did great on the subject of foreign policy which is one thing the McCain campaign wanted to try to use against him.

It was actually pretty close but this was supposed to be McCain's strongest subject. Obama seemed very well prepared and handled himself well. If this was the hardest debate for Obama then he should be able to clean up in the next two (we will see) Even is if this was a tie Obama did great on the subject of foreign policy which is one thing the McCain campaign wanted to try to use against him.

Pork Barrel Spending Maverick - Hurray!

Wish Obama would have pointed out the FACTS and TRUTH that "Appropriations Projects" have actually been REDUCED - Not "tripled" as claimed by McLIAR!

Wish Obama would point out that $18 Billion for AMERICAN Projects going to fund their U.S. Districts for projects which benefit AMERICA is what Congressmen/Senators DO

WHY DOES McSAME and REPUBS always call $18B which benefits U.S. Projects as "Waste and Pork" but WASTING $1 Trillion TaxPayer dollars for no-bid max-profit PROJECTS in IRAQ are "Great Policy"..?? WTF!!!?

McSAME is BUSH Term PART 3 - THE FINAL DISASTERS

God Save America - OBAMA 08

why is McSame so desperatley trying to put off or cancel the VP debate? Please explain.

#84 | Posted by briwo at 2008-09-26 08:09 PM | Reply

I don't know and don't really care. I'm not a McCain supporter.

But it's still cute that you are such an athletic supporter for Osama -- and AU for that matter.

Drudge poll on what will be Sarah Palin's excuse for having to cancel Thursday's debate with Joe Biden:

A.) Sarah Palins daughter Bristol has serious pregnancy complications and Sarah will have to be with her.

B.) First Dude Todd Palin is involved in an accident in which he hits a Moose with his pick-up truck and is seriously Injured.

D.) Palins son Tread is accused of homosexual activity in his first deployment to Iraq and she must be with him at this troubling time.

E.) Sarah Palin is secretly pregnant again and isn't telling anyone until now claiming her water has just broke again.

Please cast your vote accordingly !!

F.) Bristol and her boyfriend get married.

I guess none of it worked. Our little leftist-socialist friends went to government schools and studied "Heather Has Two Mommies" and "It Takes A Village" until they could quote the entire texts verbatim. Then, they were indoctrinated with political correctness and were programmed to practice tolerance, compassion, love and understanding for their fellow man.
Just look at them now. Where IS the tolerance? Where IS all this love and compassion. I bet Palin isn't feeling any of this "love and compassion." I guess all that "education" was just BS and our little friends are hypocrites of the highest order...and that they are just so full of shit that they have turds falling out of every pocket.

Jestgettin'
Angry much?

Concerned that Palin is in over her head?

Our little leftist-socialist friends went to government schools and studied "Heather Has Two Mommies" and "It Takes A Village" until they could quote the entire texts verbatim. Then, they were indoctrinated with political correctness and were programmed to practice tolerance, compassion, love and understanding for their fellow man.

Did you not go to "government schools"?

BTW, Jestgettin'-
I expect someone campaigning to be next in line for the most powerful position on earth to have a rough idea of what the fuck she/he is talking about, and to be able to handle an interview with Katie Couric before she/he is entrusted with dealing with situations such as Putin's "head". I guess that makes me an "elitist".

"Jestgettin'
Angry much?"

Not at all! "Amused" would be a more accurate word...LOL.

"Concerned that Palin is in over her head?"

Naw...just concerned that we could have a socialist in the Oval Office.

"Did you not go to "government schools"?"

A mixture of public/private schools up through high school. Private college though. When I went to some of the government schools in my early years, they still said the Pledge of Allegiance and we said yes maam and no sir to all the teachers. Obviously, it was before the 60's, wasn't it?

Betl

You must understand, jestgettinitwrong ain't real bright. He's still fightin' the wawah of nawthun agwession.

That explains why his knowledge of climatology is pre 1896.

1896: Svante Arrhenius, "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air Upon the Temperature of the Ground." Philosophical Magazine 41: 237-76.

Jest and the simple-minded retards like him will be extinct soon.

"BTW, Jestgettin'-
I expect someone campaigning to be next in line for the most powerful position on earth to have a rough idea of what the fuck she/he is talking about, and to be able to handle an interview with Katie Couric before she/he is entrusted with dealing with situations such as Putin's "head". I guess that makes me an "elitist"."

Oh...that changes everything. Now I see that you and your little friends are perfectly justified in trashing her, her daughter, her husband and other children. Y'all were absolutely right to abandon all your PC principles and use ugly, profane language regarding all of them. I knew you would be able to rationalize it. You're all still full of shit though.

Don't overlook the fact that Sarah Failin' thinks jeeebus is coming back in her lifetime.

hahahahahahahahahahaha

"You must understand, jestgettinitwrong ain't real bright. He's still fightin' the wawah of nawthun agwession."

LOL....Fuckin' right!

"That explains why his knowledge of climatology is pre 1896."

Well, I don't have a scientific peer-reviewed swimming pool like you do Zat.

Jestgettin'
re:Oh...that changes everything. Now I see that you and your little friends are perfectly justified in trashing her, her daughter, her husband and other children.

Good luck with that victim rant.

"Don't overlook the fact that Sarah Failin' thinks jeeebus is coming back in her lifetime.

hahahahahahahahahahaha"

He's here, isn't He? Pelosi said he's "...sent by God to lead us." You don't doubt HER, do you?

"Good luck with that victim rant."

Rant? To see a genuine rant, you'll have to refer to some of the posts by Buffalo_Bob, Redneckville, USATrueAndBlue, AmericanUnity and some of your other little friends.

Jestgettin'-

Have you watched the Palin interview with Couric?

Palin has no idea what she's talking about, doesn't even kinda display an understanding of the issue at hand, and literally reads off of index cards when confused.

Ya'll scare me.

"Have you watched the Palin interview with Couric?"

No.
I gotta tell you that I'm not excited about a single candidate on either ticket and that nothing on this earth could make me vote for Obama because he is a friggin' socialist. I've been disgusted for many years that the Democrat Party can't seem to nominate a candidate who isn't an extreme leftist. I voted for JFK and Lyndon Johnson and haven't been able to vote for a democrat since. Looks like I'm not alone either...see what Rasmussen says about some history.

"While citing these factors, Rasmussen Reports and many others have not often pointed out another fundamental-the difficulty Democrats have in attracting a majority of the popular vote.

Since 1860, the year that Abraham Lincoln became the first Republican president, only three Democrats have won the White House with a majority of the popular vote. Each of the threeFranklin D. Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, and Jimmy Carterwere aided by extraordinary circumstances.

Roosevelt was elected during the depths of the Great Depression. Johnson was elected less than a year after he assumed the presidency following the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Carter was elected in the immediate aftermath of Watergate, a time that makes even the current challenges faced by the Republican Party seem tame by comparison.

For a while, it appeared to many that Barack Obama might be able to expand the traditional limits of Democratic appeal and break through the 50% ceiling. But despite all the polling done by Rasmussen Reports and others this season, he has not yet broken through that barrier."

Jestgettin'-
You haven't watched one of the few interviews with the person who could be next in line for the most powerful job on earth if the septuagenarian cancer survivor is elected?

Maybe you should.

"Maybe you should."

Why?
Maybe I wasn't emphatic enough. Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES am I gonna vote for Obama!

Jestgettin'

Allow me to clarify the clear. I have no doubt that you will under no circumstances vote for Obama. Don't you think that you should understand who it is you are voting FOR?

"Allow me to clarify the clear. I have no doubt that you will under no circumstances vote for Obama. Don't you think that you should understand who it is you are voting FOR?"

You STILL don't get it. I'm not voting FOR anyone. I'm voting AGAINST the socialist.

WHY DOES McSAME and REPUBS always call $18B which benefit actual Americans with U.S. Projects or Medical as "Earmarks and Pork" that must ALL be GONE!

But actually WASTING $1 Trillion TaxPayer dollars for no-bid max-profit PROJECTS and Med Centers in IRAQ for IRAQIs that benefit NO Americans are always "Great Policy"..??

$TRILLIONS in Welfare for Corporations and the Richest and $700 Billion for WALL Street Execs that benefit NO AMERICANS are always "great policy" but $18B for American Community Projects is "Pork and Waste" spending..!??
WTF!!!?

RepubliTARDS - PLEASE ANSWER with a GOOD REASON!

DITTO-Tards! THINK outside the (hillbilly heroin) RUSH!

"You mean there is honor in SNOWbama telling the Iraqi's to stall negotiations until he get's in office? The last time I looked that bordered on treason but don't let that stop you from talking about honor.
Lonnie
#738 | Posted by lwalk17 at 2008-09-27 12:19 PM"

If you really believe that story---and it's a "story" in the classical sense, as in a made-up account, unassociated with reality, meant to damage Obama, i.e. a smear---better put your dentures under the pillow tonight, Gramps, in hopes the Tooth Fairy will leave you some walking around money.

"I'm voting AGAINST the socialist.
#772 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2008-09-28 11:46 AM"

Y'know, that actually sounds kind of quaint.

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