McCain's getting more and more ridiculous, day by day.

He is pulling a Carter.

It is almost sad to watch him give up like this.

Postpone the debates??? Right when America is hungry to know what the two candidates think about all of this. Personally I want the subject of the debate changed to be about the economy.

Desn't this mean that in essence McCain is saying Obama is better than He is??

Larry

Postpone the debates??? Right when America is hungry to know what the two candidates think about all of this. Personally I want the subject of the debate changed to be about the economy.

#3 | Posted by danni

Typical drivel. If hussein suggested suspending the debate you would have been an enthusiastic supporter.

OMG... I can't stop laughing at "McPoopy Pants"..... oh god thats funny

Its a win/win for both camps.

That way they won't have to field questions about the roles their advisors (Gramm for McCain, Rubin for Obama) played in making this fiasco possible.

They should suspend the whole election. Then when Bush's time is up we can just have a free-for-all. We'd be better off than with one of these nincompoops.

He should suspend his campaign. His duty as a senator is more important right now.

McCain is getting beat up so much the past week for being out of touch, ignorant about the economy, having created this mess it is no surprise that he would go into hiding now.

Cue the right to say how leaderlike this is.

"Typical drivel. If hussein suggested suspending the debate you would have been an enthusiastic supporter."

So I guess you know everything you want to about the positions of both candidates on this bailout???
You call me partisan for disagreeing about delaying the debate but then mindlessly attack me for even having an opinion. In truth if I said the sky was blue you'd attack it.

"He should suspend his campaign. His duty as a senator is more important right now."

#9 | Posted by Pirate

You may be right, but I have hard time believing that he is doing this out of a sincere concern for the economy.

GREAAAAT! Now the economic crisis is going to become a political football becasue NO ONE trusts SHRUBIE to get us out of this one.

The BIG CRASH is coming folks. Get your gold ready.

Stock up on food and supplies. This is gonna be UGLY!

"the sky was blue"

#11 | Posted by danni

Typical drivel.

McCain is a sad excuse for a person. This is a bunch of crap. There are 98 other senators and 300+ other house members and this fool wants to postpone the debate... McCain is scared to lose.

He has to try to change the subject because his campaign is bleeding out. Rick Davis with Fannie Mae, Palin with the troopergate and now the economy and he can't keep up.

Get your old ass out of the race if you can't keep up. There are no Time Outs here.

This is a bunch of crap. Pure politics.

Maybe Johnny Poopy pants doesn't think he can make it thru the debate without "Pooping his pants"

In other words, he's going to suspend his campaign after finishing doing what he was going to do anyway this week?

My friends,
My work as a senator at this
time of economic uncertainty,
albeit I am not versed on the
economy is far more important than
me being made a fool of on Friday by
Obama. It is just not
more important than the other things
I was gonna do. Like eat my
strawberries.

-John "Groundhog" McCain.

He should suspend his campaign. His duty as a senator is more important right now.

I couldn't disagree more. McCain and Obama have an opportunity hear to show real presidential leadership *before* an election. They should both be campaigning like hell on the economic crisis, lead the votes on the issue in Congress, and let Americans judge who's right.

McCain looks like he's hiding something here. It seems like a risky stunt.

You may be right, but I have hard time believing that he is doing this out of a sincere concern for the economy.

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I would rather they both suspend and focus on this issue than putter around giving stump speeches. Here's a chance for them to address and act on the issue instead of blabbering about it.

. . .McCAIN SHITS HIS PANTS - SUSPENDS CAMPAIGN

.......Palin offers Trig's diapers to address crisis.....

"He should suspend his campaign. His duty as a senator is more important right now."

If he's really so concerned, he can withdraw as a candidate for President. The RNC can convene and appoint a new nominee.

Pirate, it's a ridiculous stunt...kinda like nominating Palin for Veep.

By this logic, I would only buy the "it's the right thing to do" position if Shrub had similarly postponed his record-setting vacations because we are fighting two simultaneous wars.

Chirp...

Brilliant move! Now Obonehead will be forced to commit to some position on the subject. Then McCain can ask him about those rich fat-cat Republican supporters of Obama who made out with with 140 million dollars from the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac corruption....Franklin Rains and Jim Johnson.

Oh wait a minute, those supporters are also Obama's economic advisors! That would make them Democrats!

Never mind!

This is a bunch of crap. Pure politics.
#16 | POSTED BY SHAWNG
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He may hold the deciding vote on the bailout. You don't think that's an little more important the the other 98?

If this doesn't sink this asshole 20 points in the poll I will be amazed.

I couldn't disagree more. McCain and Obama have an opportunity hear to show real presidential leadership *before* an election. They should both be campaigning like hell on the economic crisis, lead the votes on the issue in Congress, and let Americans judge who's right.

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Proof's in the pudding. Talk doesn't mean squat (empty campaign promises like gas tax holiday). Real Presidential leadership is accomplishing something...not just talking about it.

What time is the concession speech?

Hmmmmm

Down by 9 pts.
Palin bounce done
Press pissed
Economy in the can
Can't keep on point
About to get my ass handed to me in a debate

Let's take a break

If it's a stunt, then it will show as a stunt. Regardless of their campaigns, these two are still US Senators and have a job to do.

And for the record, I'm not voting for McCain or Obama.

"He has to try to change the subject because his campaign is bleeding out. Rick Davis with Fannie Mae, Palin with the troopergate and now the economy and he can't keep up."

#16 | Posted by shawng1

The debate would have effectively changed the subject as it was about foreign policy, when right now everyone's concern is the economy.

He's actually addressing the concern that is on everyone's mind right now by doing this, though I feel it is probably a political stunt / chickenshitting out of the debate.

"McCain looks like he's hiding something here. It seems like a risky stunt."

Yep, Unca Karl's advice doesn't seem to be what it useta.

I'm taking bets right now with 2;1 odds that they both vote the same way.

"IT'S OVER.... IT'S OVER FOR THE BIG SPENDERS AND PORK BARRELERS IN CONGRESS"

ROFLMFAO

I'm taking bets right now with 2;1 odds that they both vote the same way.

#33 | Posted by Lipzoidial

My money is with yours on that one.

Lipz - I posted a question to you on the White Supremacist thread.

It is hilarious that McAncient, a self proclaimed "novice" at economic policy, is hightailing it to Washington to deal with an economic crisis.

Can't he say "the fundamentals of the economy are strong" from the campaign anymore?

He should suspend his campaign. His duty as a senator is more important right now.

I couldn't disagree more. McCain and Obama have an opportunity hear to show real presidential leadership *before* an election. They should both be campaigning like hell on the economic crisis, lead the votes on the issue in Congress, and let Americans judge who's right.

McCain looks like he's hiding something here. It seems like a risky stunt.

#19 | Posted by rcade at 2008-09-24 03:23 PM

Mr Magoo is afraid that we might actually talk about the "issues" something he is not very good at.

There is no such thing as a time-out in life.

It's the Economy Stupid. So let's talk about it!

No Bailout for the banks!

If we are going to "throw" hundreds of billions of OUR money at this throw some my way please!

Here is an idea....

You know, the "small" bailout now PAST, not the big one(s) coming up.
Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in
a We Deserve It Dividend.

To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000
bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman
and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.

My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a
We Deserve It Dividend.

Of course, it would NOT be tax free.
So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.

Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
A husband and wife have $595,000.00.

pass it around!

I say let it all fail.

Either way we go it's going to hurt, and hurt bad.

If we let these institutions fail, the economy will suffer longer, but if we bail these assholes out, we'll all be on the line for at least $10,000 per family.

Let it fail.

Donnerboy for President!

McCain has shown leadership here. Malfunction of financial services is no joke and $700 billions is no joke.

Bravo McCain: you are ready to lead.

I think McCain is thus signing on to the bailout though with restrictions just like Obama. This may actually not be a political stunt and the situation could be as dire as the administration says. Like the boy who called wolf too many times our president has no credibility and thus even if he is warning us of a real danger it is hard to believe him.

This "bailout" smacks of a manufactured crisis on the part of Bushco. This bailout has been in the works for at least six months, yet now it is urgently needed?

Do folks really believe Obama the stutterer...the man from 57 states...the man who often doesn't know the name of the city in which he's campaigning....the man who invents names for medical hardware (Inhilator...LOL), is really going to win a debate with McCain?

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Both of these Senators should be studying and questioning this bill....it's an important issue and it needs/deserves the full attention of each of them. There two respective votes may indeed be critical to the outcome of this important farce and new precedent that may be set. I do believe the DR commentary would be different had Obama suggested this. On the other hand, I think that politically (note, I said POLITICALLY, yet it is very RESPONSIBLE) speaking....it was a stupid thing for McCain to do.

He may hold the deciding vote on the bailout. You don't think that's an little more important the the other 98?

HELL NO HE WON'T. THIS VOTE WON'T EVEN BE CLOSE. THEY WILL GET SOMETHING PASSED. THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION WANTS EVERYTHING WITH NO ACCOUNTABILITY, THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

MCCAIN CAN CALL TIMEOUT BUT AT HIS OWN PERILE. IF I WAS OBAMA, I WOULD GO AND DEBATE MYSELF... F**K JOHN MCCAIN.

NOVEMBER 4TH IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE, THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WILL TAKE PLACE ON THAT DAY.

MCCAIN CAN STALL ALL HE WANTS TO.

Well, Grampy Poopy Pants has probably figured out just how serious this is and understands that he no longer has the mental acuity needed to deal with more than one issue or crisis at a time. I applaud him for understanding his limitations. I worry about what would happen if he had more than one crisis at a time to deal with should, God forbid, he actually become president. Would he try to 'suspend' one crisis to handle the other? And how would he choose which would be more urgent? There is no way McBush is qualified at this point in time to be our president. We've had 8 years of one man unable to do the job. We won't survive another 4!

I already spent my 143 days in the senate, I don't have anymore to do there. - Hussein

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.
- - Obama voter

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Do your math again retard. It's $425, not $425k.

LOL @ ELCIDE

Good One! LOL

Do folks really believe Obama the stutterer...the man from 57 states...the man who often doesn't know the name of the city in which he's campaigning....the man who invents names for medical hardware (Inhilator...LOL), is really going to win a debate with McCain?

#44 | Posted by TheOneBS at 2008-09-24 03:34 PM

How do you win a debate when there is no debate?

ASSHOLE

watch the economy, people. this is serious and shouldn't be taken lightly.

McCain has shown leadership here. Malfunction of financial services is no joke and $700 billions is no joke.

Bravo McCain: you are ready to lead.

#40 | Posted by takitez
Update: The Obama campaign released this statement: "At 8:30 this morning, Senator Obama called Senator McCain to ask him if he would join in issuing a joint statement outlining their shared principles and conditions for the Treasury proposal and urging Congress and the White House to act in a bipartisan manner to pass such a proposal. At 2:30 this afternoon, Senator McCain returned Senator Obama's call and agreed to join him in issuing such a statement. The two campaigns are currently working together on the details."

BS. Where's Spain?

watch the economy, people. this is serious and shouldn't be taken lightly.

#52 | Posted by nanc at 2008-09-24 03:38 PM | Reply

The Iraq war was serious too. Sadam Hussein had weapons of Mass destruction

"The Obama campaign said Obama had called McCain around 8:30 a.m. Wednesday to propose that they issue a joint statement in support of a package to help fix the economy as soon as possible. McCain called back six hours later and agreed to the idea of the statement, the Obama campaign said. McCain's statement was issued to the media a few minutes later."

It's obvious what happened here. McCain tried to get ahead of the issue by pulling this stunt.

"So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00."

#37 | Posted by donnerboy

I'm sure all the lefties will rush in with the "Donnerboy's calculator" jokes.

McThusela is going to brainstorm with Keating and Gramm to figure a way out of this mess.

Yep, Donnerboy and his calculator can be assured of being ragged on for several plus years from here on out. SURE!

#44 | Posted by TheOneBS

Dumb as a sack of hammers.

THEONEBS-
what are you talking about re: inhilator? In what context did Obama use it?

***** Bravo McCain: you are ready to lead.
..... Posted by takitez *******

.........he is ready to surrender.........

........scared shitless he will look like a moron in the debate......

Hey, go ahead and list the Keating Five and the outcome of the investigations.

This is all designed to take attention away from Sarah Palins lying adulterous affair that has just came to light.

See Link for a preview of Obama's side of the coming presidential debate! McCain will certainly have his hands full when debating so skilled rhetorician! It could be a landslide for Obama when over! LOL...LOL

Sept. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Billionaire Warren Buffett, calling turmoil in the markets an ``economic Pearl Harbor,'' said his $5 billion investment in Goldman Sachs Group Inc. is an endorsement of the Treasury's $700 billion bank rescue plan.

Does anybody know just how many days McCain has actually shown up in Senate for the last couple of years? I thought he was known as "Absent John". He surely can't expect us to believe that he now HAS to be there!

THEONEBS- are you going to let me know where/when Obama used the term "inhilator"? I'm seriously asking.

It's obvious what happened here. McCain tried to get ahead of the issue by pulling this stunt.

Doesn't McCain realize how this makes him look? The Press is reporting that Obama was the one that called him at 8:30AM. This isn't going to be a secret.

McCain's words about asking Obama to "join him" are such bullshit!

This is all designed to take attention away from Sarah Palins lying adulterous affair that has just came to light.

#64 | Posted by USATrueandBlue7

What a moron.

I actually agree with this move.

Campaigning for both parties is basically just travelling around and lying to people anyway.

McCain has shown leadership here. Malfunction of financial services is no joke and $700 billions is no joke.

Bravo McCain: you are ready to lead.

#40 | Posted by takitez at 2008-09-24 03:33 PM

Insanity Flag!

Oh yeah he is ready to lead us all right...but where is he leading you?

McCain = Bush

Aren't you sick of the last 8 years yet?

When will enough be ENOUGH?

Damn! You Rethugs are gluttons for punishment! WE can't take 4 more years of this insanity!

Let's move on! You will not be able to "save face" on any of this Administrations' Fiascos and YOUR God is not going to intervene with a "rapture" to pull your asses out of the fire.

So, just get your Prozac prescriptions filled and step aside and let the adults take care of this.

We obviously have a lot of work to do!

Does anybody know just how many days McCain has actually shown up in Senate for the last couple of years?

Yeah, they should stay in Washington and lie to us from there.

Bravo McCain: you are ready to lead.

#40 | Posted by takitez

..the lemmings off the cliff.

I think when you divide 85 billion by 200 million you get 425 dollars per person NOT 425,000 dollars per person.

#73 | Posted by 726

good pointing that out, 7.

What a load of crap. McCain uses this crisis to Grandstand for his own political future. He is not needed in Washington to do anything. He has no decisions to make that he couldn't make on his plane, and he has no one to lead that he couldn't lead from his plane.

He just doesn't want to look like an ass on national TV any sooner than necessary. Not only has he been Absent John in the Senate, now he is Absent John in the campaign. If he gets elected, he will probably be Absent John in the Presidency. He looks like he could use a four year vacation.

...26

McCain is an idiot for pulling this stint. The relief is going to pass through congress by Friday whether he and Obama vote or not. Poorly timed stunt.

good pointing that out, 7.

#77 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

Just so long as I don't have to spell anything.

"watch the economy, people. this is serious and shouldn't be taken lightly.

#52 | Posted by nanc"

I'm watching it go right in the tank, thank you. So you're saying the same idiots who got us into this mess will solve it in a week? Wow. Sure am glad there isn't a war on, we'd never have an election at all.

I'm convinced this fucker would do anything to win this election.

NEWS FLASH...Obama and McCain debate. What if healthcare should be a subject in the debate? Let's see what Obama may focus on? What do you think TENDFAN?

LOL...LOL...LOL

" Bravo McCain: you are ready to lead."

If McThusaleh wants to lead, let him go on Dancing With the Stars.

He's over. No one wants a candidate who's got Phil Gramm hanging around his neck like a millstone. That is what this is about, make no mistake. The more time McThusaleh spends on Capitol Hill and the less time he spends with campaign-trail reporters who're just itching to ask him some very pointed questions about his part in creating this crisis, the better off he'll be, by his reckoning.

I don't think voters are going to buy it.

"McCain is an idiot for pulling this stint."

I don't know about this. Never underestimate the capacity of the sheeple to buy a load of horseshit. They bought Bush twice, after all.

THEONEBS- your silence speaks volumes.

did you guys see his picture on the msnbc web-site. he looks like all the vital juices have left his body.

I think palin put a body snatcher spore in him and it's digesting him from the inside.

If he gets elected, he will probably be Absent John in the Presidency. He looks like he could use a four year vacation.

#78 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-09-24 03:50 PM

"In My Fathers House There Are Many Mansions"

Mr Magoo just doesn't know how many...but he will be "on vacation" in one of them somewhere!

"Does McCain have the worst attendance record in the U.S. Senate?
Yes. McCain has missed 64% of the votes cast during the current 110th Congress.

As of September 9, 2008 McCain has missed 408 out of Senate 639 votes cast in the current 110th Congress, or 63.8%; the worst Senate attendance record of the current 110th Congress. "

Damn! I had already bought Kahlua and vodka for my Black Russians and popped up bowls of popcorn getting ready for Friday night's debate.

McCain is terrified to go into a debate with Obama because Obama will clean his clock. If there was ever a time when Americans need to hear a debate by the candidates on the issues -- especially their viewpoints pertaining to the economy -- it's NOW.

I think Obama should say just what I wrote above and not gone along with McCain. The ONLY time they should have cancelled a debate is if it happened to be scheduled on the same day as a possible Senate vote on the $700 billion bailout in which case both Obama and McCain should be there to vote.

BTW -- Bush is scheduled to give a special speech tonight at 9:00 PM. to try and shove his $700 billion bailout down the throat of the American public. Bush sure is in a hurry to get his bailout bill passed fast with no reviews, no discussion or debate, no changes -- just give sleezy Bush his blank check for $700 billion.

I was silent, but Obonehead says it loud and clear! LOL....LOL. Go listen and stop the denial.

Null--

Yes--Obama called McCain first and if you say McCain raised the bet--then Obama better call it.

My bet is that McCain was thinking of this when that reporter asked him yesterday about his being the vote that mattered and what would it be.

McCain says he doesn't like the idea of giving 1 trillion dollars without oversight or accountability and the bill will not pass.

So McCain made his decision and he's postponed ads and the debate until next week.

--Just in--

Obama wants the debate to go forward.

Should be interesting how the empty suit goes forward.

Isn't this being handled at the committee level right now?

And neither Obama, nor McCain is on the Senate Finance Committee.

And if I'm not mistaken, this is in front of the House Finance Committee now.

So what the hell does McCain thinks he's going to accomplish?

LOL

#44 | Posted by TheOneBS

Theo Nebs,

you are delusional. Mr. 894 out of 899 couldn't debate a 5yr old without a stack of talking points in front of him. He knows it and was hoping to get some ammunition (or just be able to tell the truth) before he had to go into one. Since that hasn't happened, he is postponing everything. Next thing you will see is a postponement of the Biden / Palin debate.

--Just in--

Obama wants the debate to go forward.

Should be interesting how the empty suit goes forward.

#93 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-09-24 03:57 PM

link! Cause I sure hope so!

That would mean McBush is toast!

BIGGEST...PUSSY....EVER

2 QUESTIONS --

Since this $700 billion bailout bill might very well still be being debated in Congress for another few weeks does that mean there will be NO debates at all since that's the excuse McCain has given for backing out -- no debate until a bailout bill deal is reached?

And what about the VP debate between Sarah! and Joe?
Is their debate scheduled for October 2 also a no go?

Aside from dictatorships no one suspends the political process even during wartime. It's called democracy. The civil war and ww2 are prime examples.

This is really a poor example of McCain's ability to lead in a complex world.

QUESTION:

If folks are sooooooo confident Mr.Obonehead will win the debate, then why did Mr.Obonehead refuse to debate in the numerous opportunities he was given when McCain asked him? Remember all those declined townall debates that never happened? All because Obamacoward declined!

Yep, I'm sure McCain is just quaking in his boots when it comes to debating that empty suit stutterer!

LOL...LOL!

.........he is ready to surrender.........

........scared shitless he will look like a moron in the debate......

#62 | Posted by skizziks

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Uh huh. He stood up to years at the Academy and flight school, and for years of torture at the hands of the NVA. But he's going to be panicked and scared to death before an effete two-year Senator who can't function unless there's a teleprompter scrolling his speech for him.

What? The old fucker can't multitask?

Maybe Obama can take this opportunity to debate his own running mate. LOL

McCain is looking for ANY excuse not to have to go against Obama in a debate.
It has nothing to do with making anything a "political free zone" until the $700 billion bailout bill is completed. "Country First" my ass. McCain is just a coward.

Donnerboy for President!

#39 | Posted by 726 at 2008-09-24 03:32 PM | Reply

Do your math again retard. It's $425, not $425k.

Posted by rightisright at 2008-09-24 03:37 PM | Reply

Hilarious.

Geezer, if McCain made one quarter the gaffes that Obonehead makes, you might have a case for calling him senile. But now what to do with the 25 year old bonehead who's too old to be senile? How do you justify his commanding ability to debate when he's so damn stupid?

LOL...LOL....LOL

McCain suspends campaign???
Just how does that work???
Everything he says will be followed by reporters and will effect the public's perception so obviously he will still be trying to say things that curry favor with the voters.
Once begun I don't really think a campaign can be suspended unless suspension is synonymous with ending it as per Hilary Clinton.

McCain says he doesn't like the idea of giving 1 trillion dollars without oversight or accountability and the bill will not pass.

#93 | Posted by MURPHY

...and yet he has been more than enthusiastic about borrowing and spending 1 trillion on the Iraq war. By the time we repay it, with interest, it will be one and one/half trillion.

Aside from dictatorships no one suspends the political process even during wartime.
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Psst. Retard. Last I checked, passing necessary legislation is the "political process". After all, this is the kind of rich experience that Obamaniacs tell us he has so much of.

But you're right, in a way. Let Obama give his speeches to adoring crowds at the Podunk County Fair, while McCain returns to deal with more urgent business.

45 year old bonehead...LOL

PW Songbird was already lowering expectations for the debates because he knew Obama was going to embarrass him. This stunt just puts off the inevitable.

Republican presidential nominee John McCain began playing down expectations for Friday night's first general election debate, saying Democratic rival Barack Obama is "very, very good."

As he met with voters and campaign volunteers at Baldwin Wallace College, McCain played up the importance of Ohio and noted Obama's "eloquence."

"All of you know the history lesson that the last person who succeeded in becoming president of the United States without winning the state of Ohio was Jack Kennedy,'' McCain said. "And that's been a long time."

He said the debate would be a major event in the campaign.

"Look, have no doubt about it, the capabilities of Senator Obama to a debate -- I mean, he's very, very good," McCain said. "He was able to beat Sen. Hillary Clinton who, as we all know, is very accomplished, very accomplished."

McCain said that Obama "was able to, I think, with his eloquence inspire a great number of Americans. So, these are going to be tough debates."

we held the last election in the middle of 2 shooting wars.

"But he's going to be panicked and scared to death before an effete two-year Senator who can't function unless there's a teleprompter scrolling his speech for him."

YOu speak as if Obama didn't compete in many debates already and he did just fine...in fact...surprise...he ended up with the nomination.

TENDFAN...

Oh TENDFAN????

Where'd ya go buddy?

The silence is deafening!

LOL...LOL...LOL

McCain's last Senate vote was in March of this year. Ted Kennedy was diagnosed with a brain tumor, had surgery, radiation, chemo, and has voted on the floor of the Senate, all since then.

I understand that McCain might be a little behind on his Senate duties. Tell you what. We'll cut you some slack. Let your trusted presidential surrogate fill in for you. Obama v Palin. Foreign policy. This Friday.

45 year old bonehead...LOL

#111 | Posted by TheOneBS

Theo,

The DR is no place for ISO personals!

THEONEBS- what truly makes me sad is that, despite your apparent lack of critical thinking skills or cognitive abilities, you're going to continue to post your ignorant crap here.

"Uh huh. He stood up to years at the Academy and flight school, and for years of torture at the hands of the NVA. "

RisR

Let's see...McCain graduated at the bottom of both his graduating class at the Academy and in flight school. He was not a fighter pilot but a bomber. He crashed a few planes in the process. And he didn't have much choice in the matter of being a POW except he was such a bad pilot he got shot down.

What are his achievements again?

Maybe Obama can take this opportunity to debate his own running mate. LOL

#104 | Posted by anamerican at 2008

FF for AA

They want the bill done by Monday and McCain can get the Republican support if there are conditions.

Obama wants to debate himself or youtube--debating Biden is a thought...

Hey, go ahead and list the Keating Five and the outcome of the investigations.

John McCain was criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".

Just what we need in a President.

"Hmmmmm

Down by 9 pts.
Palin bounce done
Press pissed
Economy in the can
Can't keep on point
About to get my ass handed to me in a debate

Let's take a break"

Maybe 'Let's take a nap'

didnt hercule perot from Tx take a time out from his campaign back in 96?

YEAH!

Back in the Day when someone failed to meet you at the agreed time on the Quad after school, it meant they were a Pussy!

But hey, that's when "Conservative" actual meant something real, too!

Uh huh. [McCain] stood up to years at the Academy and flight school, ...

Bullpoop. McCain graduated 5th from the BOTTOM of his class at the Naval Academny. If McCain were not the son and grandson of Navy Admirals he would never have gotten into the Naval Academy in the first place. Nor without his connections would McCain have been allowed to get into a second cockpit after he crashed his first jet -- let alone have been given a chance to crash four more.

You asked for it TENDFAN, and I provided it. Now you back pedal!

I guess "critical thinking" for you is the inability to admit you were wrong, and then accuse me of an inabilitity to think critically.

LOL...what a marooon!

Name the other four Zap and the outcome of the investigation of them. LOL.

Does this mean that the fundamentals of our economy aren't so strong after all????

Aside from dictatorships no one suspends the political process even during wartime. It's called democracy. The civil war and ww2 are prime examples.

This is really a poor example of McCain's ability to lead in a complex world.

#100 | Posted by furio at 2008-09-24 04:00 PM

Exactly, there is "no-time" out in REAL LIFE.

"Psst. Retard. Last I checked, passing necessary legislation is the "political process". After all, this is the kind of rich experience that Obamaniacs tell us he has so much of."

Hey fucktard you can do both it's called overtime. Haven't seen much of that lately from Gramps McCain have we?

I'd hate to see what choice he makes when he's between two difficult situations.

He can't even handle one difficult situation and a debate.

DOTTEDZEBRA

FF

YEAH!

Back in the Day when someone failed to meet you at the agreed time on the Quad after school, it meant they were a Pussy!

#125 | Posted by Redneckville at 2008-09-24 04:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

....and when Redneckville was their to meet someone it's because he was their p...., (oh never mind).

Obama live at 4:45 EST with his remarks..

with baited breath...

Obama wants the debate to go forward.

Should be interesting how the empty suit goes forward.

#93 | Posted by MURPHY

The moderator will start the debate, Obama will answer "present" and we'll be back to our regulary scheduled programming.

Name the other four Zap and the outcome of the investigation of them.LOL

I've mentioned every single one running for President.

Mc Poor Judgment!

.....wisgod, stop it. Kindergarten inexperienced children learn to say PRESENT before anything else. He'll gain more experience over time. America just needs to be patient with him.

Obama live at 4:45!

Hear a preview:

Uhhh...uhhhh...uhhh...uhhhh
uhhhhhhh...uhhhhh...uhhhhh
uhhh.....uhhhhh...uhhhhhhhhh
uhhhhhhh....uhhhhhh....uhhhh!

Now back to our previous programs!

donnerboy still hasn't come forward to admit his numbers are fucked up?

Which one of McCains 13 cars is he going to use to make his "BEE-Line" back to Washington in?

"I know how to win wars"...while sitting in a concentration Camp.

"I know how to fix social security" ...let people invest their own money on wall street themselves

"I know how to fix health care"...we need to privatize it more

And this "BLOWHARD" is going to solve the current economic situation single handedly by proposing more government when this asshole was always the supporter of LESS government.

Obamaniggah cant do the job he was elected to do, so retards want to elect/promote him to another one...peter principal for president!!!

#121 | Posted by Libssuck

You must be thinking of McCain as the Peter Principle. The only way he could have gotten ito the Naval Academy is by having a father and a grandfather as Navy Admirals. (elite) Tho only way he could have graduated from the Naval Academy, 894 out of 899, is by having a father and grandfather as Navy admirals (very elite) The only reason he was taken a prisoner was because he crashed his jet, even after having crashed FOUR others, he was allowed to keep flying because his father and grandfather were Navy admirals. (disgustingly elite).

"...and when Redneckville was their to meet someone it's because he was their p...., (oh never mind)."

Hey Ride_on, why don't you actually try to take a class of or two in college to find out what Redneckville is referring to?

They have nothing to vote on!

It's still at the committee level, and the committee may make Paulson come up with something else.

This is not on the floor of the Senate.

McCain is ducking the debate.

He'll gain more experience over time. America just needs to be patient with him.

That Bleeding Lib George Will agrees whole heartily.

"McCain is ducking the debate."

It does appear so.

"McCain is ducking the debate."

Posted by Roy_Batty

Aflac!

The political cable channels are now ripping McCain up one side and down the other for bailing out on the debates. Cafferty is hot under the collar.

Bad move on McCain's part.
Waiting until the bailout bill is passed is just a cheap and cowardly excuse that makes him appear terrified to be in any debate with Obama.

Other than a declaration of war, there's no reason McCain needs to cancel the debate. We only have another 5-6 weeks before the election and it's going to take about that long a time to get the $700 billion bailout bill cobbled together.

McCain is simply saying he doesn't want any debate at all.

Hey Geezer, how successful was Obama with his military service. Oh wait!

Ok, then how successful was Obama as a community organizer. How did the housing projects he was involved with hold up over time? LOL

Hey Ride_on, why don't you actually try to take a class of or two in college to find out what Redneckville is referring to?

#143 | Posted by furio at 2008-09-24 04:17 PM | Reply

furryhole thinks cocosamville was talking about college. What a dumb shit.

Did you see a lot of kids meeting up to fight "after school" in college fruitcake?

McCain doesn't want the mainstream press around him, it's invitation only to his Town Hall meetings and now he wants out of Friday's debate. It smells more and more like Bush by the second.

Sons of Admirals do live a somewhat elite lifestyle. I grew up on military bases and remember their housing compared to ours and my dad was a Commander but still we lived in a little duplex while they lived in a mansion.

Folks forget how McCain did at the Faith Forum.

Folks forget that Obama ducked 10 townhall meetings with McCain this summer.

Folks forget that the topic is foreign policy--McCain's strong suit.

Does this have politics all over it--yes--that could be argued.

Both from McCain and Obama in his retort.

Obama could vote Present--FF for Wis

"Hey Geezer, how successful was Obama with his military service. Oh wait!"

Well, how successful was John McCain and John McCain's Dad....seem to remember we lost that war.

Hey Geezer, how successful was Obama with his military service

He didn't BBQ 140 American sailors so I guess that puts him ahead of McBucketlist.

"
Folks forget that the topic is foreign policy--McCain's strong suit."

Yeah...bomb, bomb, bomb, let's bomb Iran.

Yeah...we are all Georgians.

McCAin uses foreign policy for grandstanding comments which would actually be dangerous if he were the American president.

"Did you see a lot of kids meeting up to fight "after school" in college fruitcake?"

101, you obviously haven't been to college either or you would know about the frat fights.

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.
- - Obama voter

* * * *

Do your math again retard. It's $425, not $425k.

#49 | Posted by rightisright at 2008-09-24 03:37 PM

I reposted that from a email I got.

yeah I was wondering if anyone would check the math on that...it sounded too good. On the daily show they calculated it at 2,000 apple pies each.

And even at 700 billion that is only $3500.00.

And if we only use "working Americans" as an example (at 140 million employed) we still only get about $5,000.00.

Sigh...

"with baited(sic) breath..."

Posted by MURPHY

Furio, sheesh, eyes un' never was at un' big cawlage so eyes just can't imagioney what's one of the Quads is un'. Eyes never heard un' of that space of grass surrounded by dorm buildings. Dontcha' know. Never was un' involved in streaking around the Quad as the surrounding girl dorms we're playing "I am women" when Billy Jean beat old what's his name in tennis.

Besides, by the time I was attending a University for my undergraduate studies we didn't have high school/middle school/grade school style fights on the Quad.

If folks are sooooooo confident Mr.Obonehead will win the debate, then why did Mr.Obonehead refuse to debate in the numerous opportunities he was given when McCain asked him?

Give me a break. Those weren't real debates. They were only to be "town hall meetings" McCain had wanted set up so he could put a bunch of pre-selected softball questioners in his hand-picked audience.

McCain is simply saying he doesn't want any debate at all.

#149 | Posted by CalifChris

So they both skip Friday night. What's the big deal?
They certainly have time to make it up, and I'd like to see them pre-empt Dancing with the Stars anyway.

Looks like John wants to get down to the job of running the country, and the Obama wants to get down to the job of running his mouth.

The press is pissed -- to put it mildly!

THEONE- I had to go back and look through your posts to locate where you'd posted that gaffe. I apologize for missing it, as I was looking it up elsewhere when you posted it.

Real Presidential leadership is accomplishing something...not just talking about it.

#27 | Posted by Pirate

I couldn't agree more.

It will be interesting to see how this shakes down.

Fact is, these guys are both currently senators. They have a responsibility to uphold in their current capacity.

We have an economic melt-down that is largely the creation of shitty government policy. These clowns have an obligation to right the ship and then get the government the hell out of the way.

If we ever wanted a test of leadership between these 2, this is it. The spotlight is on and this type of action can't be easily faked.

What I find funny is that if it had been Obama who'd made this proclamation, a lot of DR Lefties would have wet-spots on the front of their pants right now.

Dannii---

You didn't grow up when moby dick was a minnow.

How do you think the life would be to move around so much that the longest time was a year. And the longest residence he had was in the Hanoi Hilton.
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And of course the media is mad--they are going to have less ratings--especially CNN--it's their debate isn't it?

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McCain is simply saying he doesn't want any debate at all.

#149 | Posted by CalifChris at 2008-09-

Where is the link for that CC?

"And if we only use "working Americans" as an example (at 140 million employed) we still only get about $5,000.00."

So, if every working American had his pay increased by $5,000 don't you think it would help the economy more than giving it to the 30,000 richest families of America???
This bailout is strictly "supply side". We give them 700 Billion and hope it will "trickle down" in the form of loans on which they will charge us exorbidant interest.

"But canceling the debate? "

Simple. Change the debate topic to domestic issues. Obama should propose that, and challenge McCain to show up.

What I find funny is that if it had been Obama who'd made this proclamation, a lot of DR Lefties would have wet-spots on the front of their pants right now.

#169 | Posted by JeffJ

A-fucking-men.

I reposted that from a email I got.

yeah I was wondering if anyone would check the math on that...it sounded too good. On the daily show they calculated it at 2,000 apple pies each.

#160 | Posted by donnerboy at 2008-09-24 04:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

But, hey give donnerboy a break. He's only a knee jerking lib who thought it sounded good. So he just "wondered" yet just went ahead and posted it as is anyway....so he and all his little DR lefties could relish in made up puffed up fantasy and glee. It's how they roll.

Cruel Clever Cat:

Sally, having swallowed cheese,
Directs down holes the scented breeze,
Enticing thus with baited breath
Nice mice to an untimely death.

-Geoffrey Taylor

The debates are the only real oportunities left to see them go head to head....

#166 | Posted by Norm_ at 2008-09-24 04:24 PM

Exactly why McCain wants the debates cancelled.

He is terrified of going up against Obama in a debate.

Have you ever watched McCain give a speech? He continually looks at the floor to read off a teleprompter. On the Senate floor, all the Senators have a podium where they can keep their notes and papers handy while giving their speeches. But in a debate, McCain would have nothing but his own brain to work with. Hmmmm.

"How do you think the life would be to move around so much that the longest time was a year."

We moved every two years. Most Navy families did in those days. I wasn't commenting on his time in a prison cell, just his youth, which from my experience was sort of elite. Getting into Annapolis was very hard to do, especially considering John McCain did not have great grades in High School.

McCain is getting beat up so much the past week for being out of touch, ignorant about the economy, having created this mess it is no surprise that he would go into hiding now.
Yeah, he should have introduced legislation several years ago to put Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under stricter supervision. Like this.

From the congressional record:

I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.

I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.

This bill was shot down by the Democrats in Congress

What legislation did Obama introduce?

CC--

Have you seen the garbage that is on the ballot here in CA?

Shakespeare: "Shall I bend low and, in a bondman's key, / With bated breath and whisp'ring humbleness, / Say this ...".

Mark Twain; Tom Sawyer: "Every eye fixed itself upon him; with parted lips and bated breath the audience hung upon his words, taking no note of time, rapt in the ghastly fascinations of the tale".

Getting into Annapolis was very hard to do, especially considering John McCain did not have great grades in High School.
No one "applies and gets in". Only those who are appointed attend.

Folks forget that the topic is foreign policy--McCain's strong suit.

#154 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-09-24 04:21 PM | Reply

How can you see this as McCains strong suit? He proposes the same road as Bush has gone down the last 7 years. He has been mistaken on every issue. To think McCains foreign policy is his strong suit after saying Iraq would be easy and the goals accomplished quickly is poor judgement on his part and yours.

Donnerboy and Vermin can have math contests for the general amusment of all DR, left and right.

1)Please calculate the distance from Earth to the smokestacks on the moon.

2)Using only quadratic equations, determine the greatest number of brain cells still functioning in George W. Bush's head. Show your work.

From a "McCain is being paid to be a senator" standpoint, I think this is a good idea - he should be doing his job. From a "Presidential campaign" standpoint, I think it is a terrible idea. It opens him up to all sorts of criticism from the left and the media.

In the meantime, nobody seems to care about $700,000,000,000 in corporate welfare. "Conservatives" and anti-corporate lefties included.

McCain Suspends Campaign

This is just another example of the GOP using a national crisis for partisan political gain.

But in terms of the timing of this move: The only thing that's changed in the last 48 hours is the public polling.

Simple. Change the debate topic to domestic issues. Obama should propose that, and challenge McCain to show up.

#173 | Posted by nullifidian

That would be bad strategy IMO.

Fair or not, McCain forced Obama's hand. Obama can't counter, or he'll look trite and stupid.

If Obama had given this same excuse to cancel the Presidential debates I would be calling him a coward too. Face it -- McCain has just dug a hole for himself because now the press is furious and most Americans were looking forward to watching the Presidential debates.

SPIN away, McCain lovers, you're going to need all the luck you can get.

Why has no one answered my question about the October 2 VP debate
between Palin and Biden? Will that also be cancelled? Well?

But, hey give donnerboy a break. He's only a knee jerking lib who thought it sounded good. So he just "wondered" yet just went ahead and posted it as is anyway....so he and all his little DR lefties could relish in made up puffed up fantasy and glee. It's how they roll.

#175 | Posted by ride_on at 2008-09-24 04:27 PM

Yeah the math was wrong just like the current plan!

AND it sounds a LOT better than the "Current Plan".

You know the one where NOBODY knew the world was ending in 3 days. And if no one notices that the math is wrong it will work out great right up until the next time the TAXPAYERS have to bail us out!

Danniii--

Elite is getting your Harvard education paid by a --who--??? A foreigner--a saudi?? a muslim??

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CC--

You missed the effects of Obama and his debate sit down with the pastor at the Faith Forum-?? umm errr ohhh I I I I I II I--errs ummmm ohhhhh uoooo..I stopped counting at 64...

Obama doesn't do well in debates without a teleprompter.

McCain has been doing townhall meetings and those are debate venues for years.

From a "Presidential campaign" standpoint, I think it is a terrible idea. It opens him up to all sorts of criticism from the left and the media.

I disagree, Joe.

If he proceeds carefully, he demonstrates leadership and an ability to prioritize.

Having said that, he needs to be completely and genuinely committed to properly seeing this through. If he tries to fake it or grand-stand, this ploy backfires.

Just by reading donnerboy's #191 post it's clear to see that not only is his calculator broken, but his brain is broken also. Sad.

Murphy

CC--

Have you seen the garbage that is on the ballot here in CA?

No, not yet. I haven't received any election material in the mail to date. I'm aware of a few of the proposals which would be on the ballot which I heard about in the media and newspaper but have not seen the entire ballot. Maybe in today's mail? I'll go check in an hour. My mail is usually delivered after 2 p.m.

Watching the righties cheer lead for McCain like this is both sad and entertaining. Two minutes before McCain announced he was suspending his campaign you'd be saying that suspending his campaign would be stupid, because why let Obama have an opening like this?

Because he actually said it, you all think it's a great fucking idea and noble to boot.

Fucking hypocrites. If Obama did the same thing, you'd be calling him elitist.

Why not let Palin handle the debate??? Isn't she supposed to be ready on day 1?????

WHAT A FEAKING YELLOW BELLY COWARD MCCAIN IS...
(Did I tell you he was a POW?)

Will Obama have his teleprompter on during his upcoming response to McCain?? Enquiring minds want to know.

101, you obviously haven't been to college either or you would know about the frat fights.

#159 | Posted by furio at 2008-09-24 04:23 PM | Reply

Uh, those happened at the houses dipshit, not at the High School Quad that redneckville was refering to.
Anything else I can help you with Sally?

What I find funny is that if it had been Obama who'd made this proclamation, a lot of DR Lefties would have wet-spots on the front of their pants right now.

#169 | Posted by JeffJ

Yeah, But he didn't. It was McCain who bolted.

"Geezer is one dumb motherfucker.
It must be dementia, or crabs, or a busted bung-hole, or..."

#179 | Posted by JeffJ

You're the retard speculating on what DID NOT happen. And I have dementia?

Jeff J

Exactly what do you think McCain plans to do in Washington that he couldn't do from his plane? This is Grandstanding, pure and simple.

With a big touch of cowardice for the debate.

Just by reading donnerboy's #191 post it's clear to see that not only is his calculator broken, but his brain is broken also. Sad.

#194 | Posted by ride_on at 2008-09-24 04:35 PM

calculator is not broken ... just never bothered to use it... so go ahead jump on it! Now's ye big chance!

But, that is what I get for re-posting without checking...live and learn!

For a man that has not voted on a single bill for the last eighteen months this really seems self serving.

Economics is not his strong point but he is going to come home to advise the experts. Wonder if he'll let Phil Gramm out of the dog house long enough to testify.

His own party says they don't need him and all he will do is inject politics and slow the process.

Actually--this type of move is classic McCain.

He is walking the walk of country first.

Obama would never --ever think of doing this because he is the empty suit.

Man the libs are whipped up about this! I can't wait till your Messiah wins and changes absolutely nothing. Then everyone can admit that neither of these two parties can find their ass with both hands...

right?????

Wrong, you idiots will still be partisan hacks. I'm sick of you all.

Elite is getting your Harvard education paid by a --who--??? A foreigner--a saudi?? a muslim??

#192 | Posted by MURPHY

You are the second asshole making these idiotic insinuations. If you have anything that shows financing from questionalble sources, provide a link or STFU. No one has proved anything besides student loans and scholarships, obviously something an uneduacted asshole like you cannot surmise or understand.

And I have dementia?

#200 | Posted by geezer1 at 2008-09-24 04:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

If you have to ask....yes, YES you do. Not, that you'll remember or anything.

Actually--this type of move is classic McCain.

He is walking the walk of country first.

Obama would never --ever think of doing this because he is the empty suit.

#204 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-09-24 04:39 PM

Actually ...when it came to "crunch time" McCain Blinked.

Obama did not.

Just play with your pud instead of looking stupid, as you mainly do. It is NOT elite to be in the military or to aspire to be in the military. IT IS elite to get into a top military school, even when you don't have the brains, only because you have family connections. It is even worse when you are such a fuck-up that you normally would have gotten your ass kicked out of that military school except for the fact that you had family connection and it is criminal that you get to crash five jets without repercussions, again, because you have family connections. So next time, read the post carefully and FUCK YOU!

#170 | Posted by geezer1 at 2008-09-24 04:26 PM | Rep

You poor tired old fart, you may want to re-read your post. You called their rank elite, on several occasions...

Senility is probably the reason, but being stupid probably doesn't help your case gramps.

68% think this is a political stunt.

27% regular Kool Aid drinkers think it is for the economy.

5% think it is something else.

He is walking the walk of country first.

That's why the pint-sized rageaholic made propaganda tapes for the North Vietnamese.

Feel for you, Donner. Happened to me here a couple years ago.

Oh well, you just made several people feel good about themselves. It's the only opportunity many of them have.

What a day for political junkies!

First the National Enquirer story about Sarah (the slut?) with their allegation of her martial infidelity of cheating on her husband in 1996 with a city council member while she was Mayor of Mooseville and now McCain trying to slink away from having any Presidential debates prior to the election.

Republicans might have a few things to really start worrying about after today.

The press will show no mercy. They were panting like puppies waiting for the debates. (Actually, I was too. lol)

Obama would never --ever think of doing this because he is the empty suit.

#204 | Posted by MURPHY at 2008-09-24 04:39 PM | Reply | Flag

Obama called him first. *sigh* It's being reported in the MSM already, murphy. Come out from under your rock.

You may be right, but I have hard time believing that he is doing this out of a sincere concern for the economy.

#13 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

Not hard to picture him huddling with Schmidt and Rove.

Then everyone can admit that neither of these two parties can find their ass with both hands...

right?????

Wrong, you idiots will still be partisan hacks. I'm sick of you all.

#205 | Posted by the_nether at 2008-09-24 04:41 PM

Not as much as WE are sick of the Bush Era. They have to go and McCain is just more of the same. McSame!

There is only one party that is strong enough to regain the White House from the current Radical Regime that has seized our government... and that unfortunately is the Democrats.

Welcome to American Politics Nether...been here long?

It is even worse when you are such a fuck-up that you normally would have gotten your ass kicked out of that military school except for the fact that you had family connection and it is criminal that you get to crash five jets without repercussions, again, because you have family connections.

101

Geezer may be a tired old fart, don't really know.

But the above is not inaccurate, is it?

68% think this is a political stunt.

27% regular Kool Aid drinkers think it is for the economy.

5% think it is something else.

5% just don't think at all. Period.

"Looks like John wants to get down to the job of running the country, and the Obama wants to get down to the job of running his mouth.
#165 | Posted by anamerican at 2008-09-24 04:24 PM"

Actually, it looks like Big Bad John's cojones got lost in one of those plane crashes.

"obviously something an uneduacted asshole like you cannot surmise or understand"

You poor tired old fart, you may want to re-read your post. You called their rank elite, on several occasions...

Senility is probably the reason, but being stupid probably doesn't help your case gramps.

#209 | Posted by 101Chairborne

How did I call their rank elite? I called him elite for being able to do what no one other cadet could have done. Not only get into the NA but also graduate BECAUSE of family influence

getting into NA because of family (elite)
graduating even though he was a fuck up (very elite)
crashing four jests and still flying because of family connections (disgustingly elite)

You are a retarded moron!

LOL Obama is going to debate himself!

Feel for you, Donner. Happened to me here a couple years ago.

Oh well, you just made several people feel good about themselves. It's the only opportunity many of them have.

#212 | Posted by TedBaxter at 2008-09-24 04:44 PM

thanks! I know better... I was in a hurry... yeah, ya gotta throw some "read meat" out there every now and then I guess or they will starve! You know it is going to be a long 8 years for most of them (and yes, I do think Obama will be President for 8 years!).

Rush Limbaugh on the other hand is probably going to do VERY well.

But, then again HE is a "professional" asshole.

Breaking news -- Obama is now on all the cable channels.
From the little I caught of his speech it sounds like he does not want to cancel the debates.

THIS IS NOT MY IDEA BUT I REALLY LIKE IT!
#155 | Posted by donnerboy at 2008-09-24 12:44 PM

RiR checked the math on this...it seems to be off a few zeros!

#157 | Posted by donnerboy at 2008-09-24 04:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

ROFLMAO....donnerboy was spamming his "math unchecked calculation" on the RP thread too. It was just too good for him to pass up. He must have been drooling while posting his misinformation. TEDBAXTER says it makes us feel good, so TED is that all the DR lefties have been doing with "Vermin" for years now? Hmmm?

You tired old sack of bones, here is the post. Have your nurse read it to you...

You must be thinking of McCain as the Peter Principle. The only way he could have gotten ito the Naval Academy is by having a father and a grandfather as Navy Admirals. (elite) Tho only way he could have graduated from the Naval Academy, 894 out of 899, is by having a father and grandfather as Navy admirals (very elite) The only reason he was taken a prisoner was because he crashed his jet, even after having crashed FOUR others, he was allowed to keep flying because his father and grandfather were Navy admirals. (disgustingly elite).

#142 | Posted by geezer1 at 2008-09-24 04:16 PM | Reply | Flag

is by having a father and a grandfather as Navy Admirals. (elite)
is by having a father and grandfather as Navy admirals (very elite)
his father and grandfather were Navy admirals. (disgustingly elite).

How frigging thick is your skull old man?

Will Obama have his teleprompter on during his upcoming response to McCain?? Enquiring minds want to know.

#198 | Posted by anamerican

Will McCain have the notes that reads from during every speech? The old man can't even maintain eye contact with the crowd without looking down at them!

Obama assumed....do we need a president who assumes?

"obviously something an uneduacted asshole like you cannot surmise or understand"

#220 | Posted by JOE

WOW, you caught me on aone letter transposition! You get a big gold star and a fruit roll-up. Moron!

IT IS elite to get into a top military school, even when you don't have the brains, only because you have family connections.

Only people speaking the language of known conflict have now become the entire housing military.

There is only one party that is strong enough to regain the White House from the current Radical Regime that has seized our government... and that unfortunately is the Democrats.
Welcome to American Politics Nether...been here long?
#216 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

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Forgive me if the "vote for the lessor of two evils" mentality doesn't move me to tears of a proud patriotic nature. If this is what I can look forward to for the rest of my voting life, I won't be voting much.

Couple of observations here.

A good barometer for nervousness about McCain's good decisions and their political repercussions is the crescendo of twittering and noise that tends to come from left-wing shit inhabiting blogs such as this. You saw it with Sarah as a pick ("terrible idea"), and you're seeing it now (he looks ridiculous").

I'm also amused at this notion of McCain somehow "fearing" a debate. Anybody whose head isn't firmly implanted in their ass knows that one candidate is qualified and presidential, and the other isn't. Even the Obama camp is aware of that perception. Make no mistake, Senator McCain is going to wipe his ass with the neophyte Man-Child.

I'm looking forward to the juxtapositioning on national teevision.

Come on 101 (lay off Geezer)....Geezer followed a post of his with a question he had about himself (so every once in awhile he must be cognizant that something has gone awry with him). Here it is, (along with an accurate answer to his question):

And I have dementia?

#200 | Posted by geezer1 at 2008-09-24 04:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

If you have to ask....yes, YES you do. Not, that you'll remember or anything.

#207 | Posted by ride_on at 2008-09-24 04:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

ROFLMAO....donnerboy was spamming his "math unchecked calculation" on the RP thread too. It was just too good for him to pass up. He must have been drooling while posting his misinformation. TEDBAXTER says it makes us feel good, so TED is that all the DR lefties have been doing with "Vermin" for years now? Hmmm?

#225 | Posted by ride_on at 2008-09-24 04:53 PM

and I made a "correction" and admitted I was hasty and that RiR was right...

Hmmm I guess that is a bit different from how a Rethug like yourself would handle it? Or could it be that Vern tried to defend his poor math skills to the point that he made an ass of hisself?

Oh well, enjoy your "moment".

At least now I can say that I made a mistake...

once...

If he proceeds carefully, he demonstrates leadership and an ability to prioritize.

That's the thing though. We have an election in 5 weeks and the debates ARE a huge priority. The American people need to see them debate the issues.

I want a debate on this POS bailout BEFORE they vote on it. How does this favor democracy? McCain wants to cancel the debate, go to Washington and "Get it done".

Well I'm not sure yet I want it done. I'm not convinced it's not a scam. So let's have a debate first. Let's have McCain make his case for his version of the bailout. If he's correct he'll win the debate.

Canceling a Presidential debate to go behind closed doors isn't putting country first, it's hiding from the people who deserve to hear their plans on how to fix this crisis.

Rush Limbaugh on the other hand is probably going to do VERY well.

But, then again HE is a "professional" asshole.

See, it will be okay. You will all still have something to piss your pants about, hold your breath, stomp up and down like a 3 year olds.

Liberals never change no matter what climate we are in.

BREAKING NEWS

direct quote from CNN --

Obama: "I believe we should continue the debate."

How frigging thick is your skull old man?

#226 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Are you just pretending to be this much of an ididot or are you playing a game. I even explained it three times. Do you really think that elite, very elite and disgustinly elite describes "Navy admirals" and not the circumstance by which McCrash had a naval career? You need to go back and take that 6th grade reading comprehension class.

Well I've just heard an interesting (albeit ludicrously far fetched)rumor...had anyone else heard any anything about Obama possibly dropping out of the race for Hillary in the next week for health/sickness reasons? No link....rumor I've heard at work from several coworkers...curious to see if anyone else had been hearing this or if its just crazy jabbering?

Bush ran away during 9/11. McCain is running away from a debate. Palin wont talk to reporters. All the neocons dodged the draft.

Why do you rethugs insist your leedurs are so strong despite being constantly presented with evidence of what pussies they are.

"How frigging thick is your skull old man?"

Chairbitch,

How thick is yours? We've been over this so many times that McCain had a privledged and connected upbringing. Who the fuck do you think four star admirals hang out with longshoremen? No senator, congressmen, CEOs, etc. McCain was given a pass most of his life until he finally did a fuckup daddy couldn't get him out of, Hanoi Hilton.

I'm also amused at this notion of McCain somehow "fearing" a debate.

Well, McCain did challenge Obama to 10 town-hall debates. Obama of course refused, so naturally it is McCain who is afraid to debate.

even after having crashed FOUR others

Why do people insist on perpetuating this lie when it has been proven to be wrong?

McCain did lose two Navy aircraft while piloting them, both due to engine failure. A third was destroyed on the deck of the carrier USS Forrestal when a missile fired accidentally from another plane hit either the plane next to McCain's or, less likely, his own aircraft, triggering a disastrous fire that killed 134 sailors and nearly killed McCain. A fourth plane was lost when he was shot down over North Vietnam on a bombing mission over Hanoi. There's no evidence that any of the four destroyed planes were lost to pilot error.

obviously something an uneduacted asshole like you cannot surmise or understand.

Posted by geezer1 at 2008-09-24 04:41 PM | Reply

Hey--Geezer--right back at ya'

You go after others you get your own share in return.

IT IS elite to get into a top military school, even when you don't have the brains, only because you have family connections.

Only people speaking the language of known conflict have now become the entire housing military.

#230 | Posted by LeeAtwater

Thank you LA, please tell me what I stated is wrong.

Are you just pretending to be this much of an ididot or are you playing a game. "ididot"?

#238 | Posted by geezer1 at 2008-09-24 04:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Come on now Geezer. You really didn't need us to answer the question you posed....now did ya'?

And I have dementia?

#200 | Posted by geezer1 at 2008-09-24 04:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

If you have to ask....yes, YES you do. Not, that you'll remember or anything.

#207 | Posted by ride_on at 2008-09-24 04:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bush ran away during 9/11. McCain is running away from a debate. Palin wont talk to reporters. All the neocons dodged the draft.
and REPUBLITARD is a stupid SOB.

"WOW, you caught me on aone letter transposition!"

Bush ran away during 9/11. McCain is running away from a debate. Palin wont talk to reporters. All the neocons dodged the draft.

Why do you rethugs insist your leedurs are so strong despite being constantly presented with evidence of what pussies they are.

The Republicans have changed their name to the "Pussy Party"

Very good point, Jeffe.

10 Town hall debates, and he chickenshat from every one of them.

You go after others you get your own share in return.

#244 | Posted by MURPHY

With critical mathematical skills like yours, I certainly would not be commenting on lowly transposing errors.

furio why don't you 'xplain how 'ears' got into Harvard.

2)Using only quadratic equations, determine the greatest number of brain cells still functioning in George W. Bush's head. Show your work.

#186 | Posted by Reagan58 at 2008-09-24 04:30 PM | Reply | Flag

This may be the one time that negative answers may be accepted, right?

Help Me to understand something. I was under the impression the HOUSE controlled the purse strings. If this is so isn't it a bit foolish to declare that the Senate needs to debate ANYTHING until the HOUSE irons out what they are willing to do and not do and THEN debate it in the Senate?? Seems old John McCain is pussying His way out of Fridays debate and using this as an excuse. Am I wrong on this??

Larry

"Very good point, Jeffe.

10 Town hall debates, and he chickenshat from every one of them.

#250 | Posted by Pinche_Mao "

Oh how nice. A little rightwing circle jerk.

"furio why don't you 'xplain how 'ears' got into Harvard."

He earned it asshole.

Also, no one graduates from Harvard law nor becomes the head of the Harvard Law Review based upon affirmative action.

What are you some racist piece of white trash?

Thank you LA, please tell me what I stated is wrong.

Your entire premise is wrong.

John McCain is a highly decorated veteran. Those decorations weren't awarded on a whim (neither were Kerry's decorations).

He attained the rank of officer on is own volition.

Seriously, you clowns are stupid. McCain has much to be criticized for, yet you idiots fixate on admirable aspects of his life and attempt to make them into failures.

Partisan hackery to the nth degree.

"WOW, you caught me on aone letter transposition!"

#248 | Posted by JOE

I just knew that a sharpie like you would catch taht one. Congratulations!

Oh how nice. A little rightwing circle jerk.

And you're right there in the middle of it.

I was under the impression the HOUSE controlled the purse strings.
More stupidity from Obama supporter. Working these days?

"MidTownCowboy"

You sound like you are Heterosexually Challenged.

Oh how nice. A little rightwing circle jerk.

#255 | Posted by nullifidian

You're just pissed off and bitter that you want to characterize this move by McCain as an act of cowardice (he's afraid to debate Obama) when the sad reality is that it's your beloved candidate who is chickenshit.

Deal with it.

Oh how nice. A little rightwing circle jerk.

#255 | Posted by nullifidian at 2008-09-24 05:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

...and I must add....do NOT, DO NOT EVER throw factual data into a thread that I will see. Cause when you do that....I will just come along and make some pissy little comment. However, I did JUST WIN THE DEBATE.

The Great NULLandVOID (aka Billy'O'Crap'O')

So Obama is saying "call me if you need me". Is that how he would run his staff at the White House if elected?

He earned it a$$hole.

Also, no one graduates from Harvard law nor becomes the head of the Harvard Law Review based upon affirmative action.

Graduating isn't the hard part. Getting accepted is the issue. And many are accepted on affirmative action and legacy.

BTW: your an idiot.

With critical mathematical skills like yours, I certainly would not be commenting on lowly transposing errors.

#251 | Posted by geezer1

geezer--you need your meds or something? what the heck are you talking about?

Question for McCain bashers: when Obama relents and suspends his campaign - what will your reaction be?

Rove made him do it.

"You're just pissed off and bitter that you want to characterize this move by McCain as an act of cowardice (he's afraid to debate Obama) when the sad reality is that it's your beloved candidate who is chickenshit. "

It's a stunt that anyone who isn't a partisan hack would recognize.

BTW, "Jeffe" a month ago--26 days ago--you were "expecting" Palin not to hide from the press and would be "angry" if she did. Are you upset yet?

Obama wants to stay on the campaign trail....guess we know where his priorities lie.

This is Geezer's real problem Murphy....he even asks it himself.

And I have dementia?

#200 | Posted by geezer1 at 2008-09-24 04:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

Obama is a piece of crap that is only concerned about Obama. And yes, it was Obama that pussied out when McCain called him out on the town halls. PUSSIED OUT. Now, when the country is facing a crisis, and needs leadership, he wants to debate because he just spent the last two days training for this. Tough shit. For once, let's see Obama perform his Senatorial duties, and do something for the country - and not vote "present", either. We've already heard his speeches and talking points during his desperate quest for president. The debate can wait a few days. Country first.

Oohrah,

Obama will pretty much have to relent on this one.

Taking the cynical assumption that this is a stunt on McCain's part - it was beautifully delivered. Now, he just has to see it through.

I think Nullifidian just urinated into his shorts.

Sarah is talking with Katie Couric this week.

She'll do more.

Biden hasn't done a press conference either--

I think Nullifidian just urinated into his shorts.

#276 | Posted by JeffJ at 2008-09-24 05:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yes, except that he is so stupid, he's drinking it up.

I think Nullifidian just urinated into his shorts.

He did that 20 minutes ago, too.

And about 15 minutes before that.

And once after breakfast.

And ......

"Sarah is talking with Katie Couric this week."

Sarah who?

It's a stunt that anyone who isn't a partisan hack would recognize.

It probably is a stunt. However, it's a well-executed stunt, so far.

BTW, "Jeffe" a month ago--26 days ago--you were "expecting" Palin not to hide from the press and would be "angry" if she did. Are you upset yet?

I'd like to see her more visible to the press. Yes, I am irritated.

Now, it's your turn. Does it piss you off that she's had her bung-hole sniffed more intensely over 3 weeks than Obama has over the last 20 months? I mean, you really DO want a thorough vetting of BOTH candidates - don't you?

Sarah who?

Depends.

Biden hasn't done a press conference either--

#277 | Posted by MURPHY

That's irrelevant.

Sincerely,

Nullifidian

"Biden hasn't done a press conference either--"

Bide gave more interviews in the week after he was selected than the Caribou Chickenshit has given in 4 weeks. Not that he needed to do that, having participated in over a dozen debates this year alone.

Why don't you explain why someone would pay $10 to f&ck your mother's crusty a$$hole and then have to take an AIDS cocktail for the rest of their life when they could just get a simple blow for $5?

Furio, you should be of proud of your support for Obama. Your understanding of the issues is obvious. What else is obvious is that you are in the 80% who support him because of the pigmentation of his skin.

Obama ignores the issue and keeps on going.

McCain returns to his Job--like Obama should and reach across the aisle and bend some arms to get this disaster fixed.

They can re-schedule the debate.

Republicans are terrfied of intelligence. Bush and McCain only got into school under the Grandfather Clause. Bush couldn't even make it into the University of Texas.

"I mean, you really DO want a thorough vetting of BOTH candidates - don't you?"

Obama has given hundreds of interviews and participated in 22 debates, unlike your cowardly Mooseturd Messiah.

Now, it's your turn. Does it piss you off that she's had her bung-hole sniffed more intensely over 3 weeks than Obama has over the last 20 months? I mean, you really DO want a thorough vetting of BOTH candidates - don't you?

#281 | Posted by JeffJ at 2008-09-24 05:17 PM | Reply

Are you naive enough to think republicans haven't gone over his life time and time again? Maybe he's just an honest man with nothing to hide. Palin on the other hand....Troopergate--Abortion Kits--Extramarital Affair--Abstinance only teaching and her failure as a parent--seeing Russia for foreign policy.

Hey RCADE, if Null can use the term MooseTurd repeatedly why is not BuffaloBoBSh** an acceptable name?

Now go wet yourself again NULLandVOID.

"What else is obvious is that you are in the 80% who support him because of the pigmentation of his skin."

Oh really, please explain why considering an intelligent overachiever as a better choice than a lifelong reckless slacker is based on race?

And AIDS baby you haven't explained how you KNOW that Obama didn't earn his Harvard credentials.

Face it.

The Friday debate would have been the most important and educational debate any of us will see in our lives (except maybe Kennedy/Nixon) because of the timing.

McCain doesn't want to do it because he's not prepared. Thanks for nothing, John.

You're just pissed off and bitter that you want to characterize this move by McCain as an act of cowardice (he's afraid to debate Obama) when the sad reality is that it's your beloved candidate who is chickenshit.

Deal with it.

#263 | Posted by JeffJ at 2008-09-24 05:09 PM

Actually, it is more a stupidity move by McCain than anything. There is no such thing as a "time out" in real life.

McCain gets no "breather".

And I don't think Obama has any intention of "relenting"

"In my mind, it's more important than ever that we present ourselves to the American people and describe where we want to take the country and where we want to take the economy,"

-Obama

Bill Sammon.....

(Bill Sammon is "Fox News Washington Deputy Managing Editor" and the author of four New York Times bestsellers: At Any Cost: How Al Gore Tried to Steal the Election; Fighting Back: The War on Terrorism from Inside the White House; Misunderestimated: The President Battles Terrorism, Media Bias and the Bush Haters; and Strategery: How George W. Bush Is Defeating Terrorists, Outwitting Democrats, and Confounding the Mainstream Media. He is a frequent guest on shows like Special Report with Brit Hume, Fox News Sunday and Hannity & Colmes.)

..... just said on Fox News that, "you have to score this one for Obama."

McCain, he said, "threw another Hail Mary like with Palin". (no Pres since 1948 has been elected when their opponent had a 90 percent + approval rating in September. like Obama has now)

But this time Obama took the high ground saying that a Pres has to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time, and that America WANTS to see these two men Fri Nite to see where they stand.

Sammon says Obama's decision to go ahead to the debate and hold a town meeting if McCain doesn't show ( Which Lindsey Graham says he won't) is brilliant.

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"Hey RCADE, if Null can use the term MooseTurd repeatedly why is not BuffaloBoBSh** an acceptable name?

Now go wet yourself again NULLandVOID.

#290 | Posted by ride_on"

Hey moron, do you understand the difference between abusing another Drudge poster and a political figure? Get back in the corner and put that dunce cap back on.

p.s. Flag it.

Maybe you righties can get Mitt to "unsuspend' his campaign since McCain's has self-destructed.

50 percent lofl, not 90

Bok!!

McCain has asked him to come to Washington, the economy is in flames, and the Senator from Illinois thinks he has to be "called" and specially invited to do his frigging job! This kind of arrogance gets my blood boiling. "Call me"? Are you shitting us, Obama?

DO YOUR JOB! If you have to be asked just to be a legislator, what kind of leader do you plan to be?

And I will LOL when someone asks Obama what the phuck he is doing here in MS when his life savings and 401k is going up in smoke and he not there doing his job to fix the problem and get a solution.

We have 40 days to do debates. Never mind that Obama chickened out all summer.

"Sammon says Obama's decision to go ahead to the debate and hold a town meeting if McCain doesn't show ( Which Lindsey Graham says he won't) is brilliant."

Sounds like a good idea. The cable networks would cover it for sure.

Obama said in his press conference "We really need the American people to HEAR our solutions to these problems". Here's an original Idea community organizer, why don't you turn off your teleprompter, go to Washington, where you're supposed to work ..AND SHOW US what you would do..you worthless overeducated oxygen theif

Injecting the campaign into these negotiations is nuts.

McCain is looking to be a hero yet again. He may become a POW again instead, held hostage by his own arrogance.

It probably is a stunt. However, it's a well-executed stunt, so far.

There's no middle ground for McCain on this one, it's either genius or insanity. We shall see.
This is the guy who picked Palin though, so I'm going to go with short term gain, long term loss. Just like the bailout plan.

ACTION:

"I have spoken to Senator Obama and informed him of my decision and have asked him to join me," McCain said in New York City Wednesday. "I am calling on the president to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself. It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem."

--John McCain

TALK:

"I think it's very important that the American people see the people who potentially could be in charge of this problem within the next couple of months and so my attitude is that we need to be focused on solving the problems, as I have been," Obama said. "It's also important that we communicate where we need to go in getting us out of the situation."

--Barack H.

"McCain has asked him to come to Washington, the economy is in flames, and the Senator from Illinois thinks he has to be "called" and specially invited to do his frigging job! This kind of arrogance gets my blood boiling. "Call me"? Are you shitting us, Obama?

DO YOUR JOB! If you have to be asked just to be a legislator, what kind of leader do you plan to be?"

Stop yelling like a shrill old maid. There are a 100 senators. McCain is one of the least qualified to discuss economics. He is more needed in a debate to give the american voters the necessary information to determine who to vote in as the next president. Actually as a senator and a presidential nominee he is obliged to perform both obligations. If he is to tired he should back out of the race. Regardless of the economy there will be an election in five weeks.

You obviously are a McCain supporter. Stop acting so fucking sanctimonious..

More breaking news --

NBC has just announced they intend to proceed with their plans for the debate
scheduled for this Friday.

Say, how can that be when there would only be one person (Obama) who plans on showing up? What's he suppose to do -- debate himself?

Maybe NBC can get someone from SNL to play the part of McCain.

you KNOW that Obama didn't earn his Harvard credentials.

McCain is going to busy at 9 pm friday? It's geezer's bedtime anyway!

At the one man debate--it will be enlightening---

When someone stands and asks Obama what the phuck he is doing here in MS when his life savings and 401k is going up in smoke and he not there in DC doing his job to fix the problem and get a solution.

That would be the best question of the night.

Obama is screwing this up.

Well--it's to be expected since he doesn't care--

Why did obama vote against McCains bill in 2005 that would have regulated Freddie mac and Fannie Mae?

"Say, how can that be when there would only be one person (Obama) who plans on showing up? What's he suppose to do -- debate himself?"

Obama should invite a McCain surrogate to show up. Maybe Carly Fiorina or Rick Davis.

Mid--I know I know!!

Because Obama has his hand in Fannie's dress to the amount of 111,000 plus!

"He wrote in his book that he ... and let his grades slip in his final years of high school.

Teachers and fellow students at Punahou said even though Obama wasn't a straight-A student..."

Big deal he went to a local college and then transferred. I know a lot of people who proved themselves at a lower rank college and then transferred in. They get in to replace affirmative action flunk outs. What you are too ignorant to mention is that he most likely got in because his father was a Harvard alum.

You are obviously too fucking ignorant to understand that no one gets a free pass to harvard law.

Racist fuck.

What's really going on here, I think, is that McCain also is afraid that with this crisis going on, he will not be able to take cheap shots at Obama, something he definitely will have to do to cut into that 50+ percent approval, during a debate until the crisis is settled.

Obama has given hundreds of interviews and participated in 22 debates, unlike your cowardly Mooseturd Messiah.

Uh huh.

We've heard all about how the Obama's are shitty parents for both working full time while trying to raise children.

We've seen extensive reporting on Obama's per diem expenses.

We've seen nothing but negativity from the press regarding Obama.

We've learned all about Obama's incestuous relationships.

We've read Obama's hacked, private emails.

In Obama's world, a relationship with an unrepentant Marxist terrorist is ho-hum, but Palin's personal purchase of a used $1200 tanning bed is a big scandal.

When did you become so ridiculously partisan? With the exception of a couple of questions regarding Wright, Obama's interviews with the press have been more fake than Palin's interview with Hannity.

You've quickly become one of the biggest hacks on this site, and it's a sad thing to witness.

Let's talk about McCain's actions.

Like making phil gramm his financial guru. The same phil gramm that is largely responsible for the wall street mess we have right now.

This is a stunt. Now let's see what comes of it.

Norm,

You could very well prove to be correct.

Time will tell.

Jeff- What the stories about obama being a secret muslim a gay man on drugs, wright, ayers, ect ect...

Those don't count?

Obama never locked out foxnews for reporting this garbage. He went on Bill oreilly. Your comparison sucks.

You are obviously too fucking ignorant to understand that no one gets a free pass to harvard law.

Just as no one is given a free pass to the Naval Academy.

Ripping on Obama's scholarly achievements is even more stupid than ripping on McCain's.

#317 | Posted by JeffJ at

Jeff--

You forgot she took off the pillow and sofa tags of her funiture.

In response to the wright controversy, Obama gave a speech specifically about race.

Palin went with hannity and gibson.

fail.

OBAMA SAYS,

TOUGH SHIT, NO DEAL

AS PRESIDENT, YOU HAVE TO BE CAPABLE OF DEALING WITH MORE THAN ONE ISSUE AT A TIME.

Corky-

Both candidates are about even on the approval rating question.

"I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.

This bill was shot down by the Democrats in Congress"

Empty talking point when you consider Republicans held the majority in both houses of Congress.
That little detail seems to elude so many Republican apologists.

"your an idiot"

Ah yes.
The old self-retorting retort.

"Just as no one is given a free pass to the Naval Academy."

But the son and grandson of Admirals gets nearly a free pass which would not be granted to most other Americans.

"In Obama's world, a relationship with an unrepentant Marxist terrorist"

Is this some kind of talking point being distributed? It's always "unrepentant Marxist terrorist". Must have heard it a hundred times here. Or maybe it's just JeffJ channeling his hero Pinochet Mao.

Isn't life interesting? Win Ms Congeniality. Become mayor. Become Governor. Become VP candidate. Have your personal life splattered across the globe.

Imagine if it were your life..... what would people see?

But the son and grandson of Admirals gets nearly a free pass which would not be granted to most other Americans.

And you know this...how?

POTUS should prioritize too.

There is more shit on this site about Bush sitting in that classroom when the WTC was hit.

Well ??--well!!

We have the economy going into depression on Monday--per the Bernanke and Paulson and some on the Hill.

To think that the candidates would sit around while the building is burning rather than go resolve it--before Monday is very telling.

They can re-schedule--and they will.

Debates are negotiated--good grief--go put out the friggin fire!

Big deal he went to a local college and then transferred. I know a lot of people who proved themselves at a lower rank college and then transferred in.
Not into Ivy League. Columbia is not a state school. He worked the system. Just like McCain.

Murphy

In most cases, Obama is over 50, and Mc is under. But you are right, it is close. Closer than all these lousy Obamites promised me it would be, lmfao!!

"Just as no one is given a free pass to the Naval Academy."
No. Its called a congressional appointment.

"When did you become so ridiculously partisan? With the exception of a couple of questions regarding Wright, Obama's interviews with the press have been more fake than Palin's interview with Hannity.

You've quickly become one of the biggest hacks on this site, and it's a sad thing to witness.

#317 | Posted by JeffJ "

No one's a bigger hack than you, unless it's Murphy. It's really sad. You used to be one of the more respected conservative posters here. Now you're just a shill. Sad.

p.s. Day 26 Palin watch

0 press conferences
1 interview
1 fake interview
0 sunday talk shows

#329 | Posted by nullifidian

Null--

Ayres says he did not do enough bombings and should have done more.

That makes him unrepentant.

"Not into Ivy League. Columbia is not a state school. He worked the system. Just like McCain"

Bullshit McCain was at the bottom of everything he did and had daddy save his ass repeatedly. Obama was at the top. world's of difference.

Is this some kind of talking point being distributed? It's always "unrepentant Marxist terrorist". Must have heard it a hundred times here. Or maybe it's just JeffJ channeling his hero Pinochet Mao.

#329 | Posted by nullifidian

Oh.

So, are you going to try and defend Ayers?
Again?

I seem to recall you labelling him as a prankster.

As if bombing municipal buildings is akin to pulling pranks.

You got your ass handed to you the last time you tried this tack. You want another go-around?

He's a Marxist who advocated the overthrow of our government. He set off bombs, got off on a technicality and is not only unprepentant, he claims he didn't do enough.

You don't like the fact that Mao's characterizations are apt?

Tough shit.

"Ayres says he did not do enough bombings and should have done more."

Wrong, liar. He said he didn't do enough to stop the Vietnam war, not that he didn't do enough bombings, liar.

p.s. When is McCain going to reject the support of known terrorist Oliver North, who actually caused the deaths of people?

Empty talking point when you consider Republicans held the majority in both houses of Congress.
That little detail seems to elude so many Republican apologists.
Danni look up the term admendment. Look up the term fillibuster.

And answer why did Barney Frank and other Dems block McCains attempt to regulate the GSE's? How did Obama vote?

"You got your ass handed to you the last time you tried this tack. You want another go-around?"

Nobody handed my ass to me, jackass. Certainly not a partisan hack like you.

Furio--you missed McCain's RNC speech and his own words that he didn't care back then.

Then he got to Hanoi and realized --after torture and breaking by the enemy--that his country was first and he wanted to serve his country better than himself. (?)

Anyway--this argument on education is a wash.

No one's a bigger hack than you, unless it's Murphy. It's really sad. You used to be one of the more respected conservative posters here. Now you're just a shill. Sad.

Yeah. You're right.

I haven't been at all critical of McCain, or Palin.

You will not find heaping adoration of either one of them in my post history. It just isn't there. You'll find some praise, but you'll also find criticism.

Obama was at the top.
Yes. In three years in the senate he has accumulated more contributions from the failed GSE's than anyone else.

""Just as no one is given a free pass to the Naval Academy."
No. Its called a congressional appointment."

You don't think daddy knew enough congressmen working in washington? get real. Appointments are totally at the discretion of the congressman. Afterwards they need to get accepted into the Academy which would be easy because of his family.

The legislation that caused this meltdown:

The Financial Services Modernization Bill.

Author- Phil Graham.

McCain's financial adviser-Phil Graham.

I think we might be hearing some details about this at the one man debate on Friday. And without McCain there to spin and dodge, it's gonna be good.

Anyone who disagrees with me regarding anything, ever, is a shill.

Sincerely,

Nullifidian.

"Then he got to Hanoi and realized --after torture and breaking by the enemy--that his country was first and he wanted to serve his country better than himself."

that's his political story. Next.

John McCain: Leader who answers his country's call
Barack Obama: Still sitting by the phone

I see it now--Null's hat on a platter..

He did too say those things and he was answering about the bombings of the Pentagon and capital buildings.

Get real Bill..

Bits and pieces of news --

CNN said they have more than 10,000 emails so far against the cancelling of the debate.

Most Americans want the debate to be held.

McCain is the LAST person they need back in DC to help negotiate the fine points of the $700 billion boondoggle as he has a very poor in understanding of economics -- except when it comes to swindles like the Keating 5 debacle. McCain isn't even on the Banking Committee or other committees with a big say so in this bailout bill.

BUSH TO BE ON TV TONIGHT (6:00 P.M.) TO PUSH FOR HIS SLEEZY $700 BILLION BAILOUT BILL.

Evidently Bush is having real trouble getting his $700 billion bailout thru Congress -- not because of the Democrats but because many conservative Republicans in Congress are dead set against it!

Bush has no pull or sway anymore. He's a lame duck loser with a 19% approval rating. Bush's own party members hate his guts, the Ameican people hate his guts, and if Bush thinks Americans are going to give him and his crooked corporate cronies in crime a blank check for $700 billion with no questions asked, then Bush is even dumber than we thought possible.

"To think that the candidates would sit around while the building is burning rather than go resolve it--before Monday is very telling."

McCain is a joke. They should do the debate without him- after he's been whinning about no 'town hall meetings.' Congress doesn't need either candidate showing up with a bunch of political posturing. They'll do fine - better- figuring this out without them.

Incedentally, if you havent noticed, our 'building' has been burning for several years now.

Why was nothing ever suspended/cancelled until we figured out how to end this war that has killed so many?

Nobody handed my ass to me, jackass.

You defended Ayers by calling him a harmless vandal.

I smacked that shit down.

Deal with it.

Obama will show up in congress and follow it with the debate Friday night whether McCain shows up or not. McCain has no excuse!

So, the headline should be, "McCain Bails Out of Debates!"

Johnny saw what everyone else sees as the compromise that is coming which will include the things that both Obama and McCain have called for.

Barney Frank just agreed saying, "It's just a stunt. He is trying to make himself important to something that is about to happen anyway."

Both camps are calling for the same protections, McCain being a newly reborn populist and all.

The admin has even agreed to limits on CEO compensation.

I see it now--Null's hat on a platter..

He did too say those things and he was answering about the bombings of the Pentagon and capital buildings.

That depends on what the definition of 'is' is.

Sincerely,

Nullifidian

So interesting to watch you republitards squirm over this one...twisting in the wind like rotting stalks of bleached wheat.

Hmmm....Reading your comments here, one would think it was Obama who had surrendered his campaign!!!!

"...Blacks don't care about the country, about the financial crisis, about mortagages, about AL-Qaeda..they only care about getting theirs, so stop pretending..It is true they haven't had a fair shake... Posted by HillBillyJihad
"

Is this the ME-ME-ME republican crowd barfing their own rhetoric towards a systematically discriminated group. First you want Blacks oppressed, then you say the playing field is equal and there's no institutionalized racism in America....

Then you act like thick-tongued racists from sea to shining sea and call yourselves the 'Real Americans'????

Shit...you prove their point!!!!

HillbillyJihadist, who is obviously soooo pissed his Palin/McCain ticket has finally imploded...should just go back to clinging to religion and guns?

IF SARAH PALIN were truly a viable VP candidate, she would STEP INTO the Debate for Mr. Mclame and take on Obama!

Now that would be Presidential!

When you are president of the United States you may/will be called upon top handle more then one thing at a time. If McCain cant handle a debate for a few hours on Friday night while dealing with the current economic crises how in the world can anyone feel he can handle running our county. He cant actually think that he is only going to get one problem at a time if he wins. It seems to me that he either can not handle the pressures of running the country or he thinks he will not win the debate on Friday night.

350 posts so far on this thread an it's only 3:08 p.m. here in California. Bet ya the thread breaks 1000 posts by the end of the night?

McCain isn't going to "solve" anything by avoiding the debate.. this sounds like a 3rd grader that forgot to study and wants to postpone a test.

This also proves he cant multitask.

tigerbalm was signed the bill? Who tried to change the law in 2003 and 2005 but was stonewalled by the DEMS.

You won't hear anything about this bill because the REP tried to fix it and were stonewalled.

The quotes from Frank and other DEMS will be a campaign commerical. I hope Obmama brings it up in the debate. Strange how the MSM is not mentioning McCains bill in 2005? Actually its not strange at all. Its typical of the MSM.

Any news on next weeks SNL skit?

Cork,

The only problem with the headline is that McCain challenged Obama to 10 debates and Obama blew him off.

Having said that, I agree that this is likely a stunt - a stunt that could very well backfire, if not handled properly.

But as a fellow-shill, you know my commentary here is bullshit.

Just heard the debate is going forward with or without McCain.

Why is it the dems nominate guys who generate such hate?

Why is it the reps nominate guys who generate such pity?

Or maybe reps are just natural haters.

And dems are just naturally more caring and feeling.

It seems to me that he either can not handle the pressures of running the country or he thinks he will not win the debate on Friday night.
It seems to me your candidate has never introduce legislation on any thing of any significance. But yet you look to him to take action. He talks.

What is the differenced between Obama and an empty suit?

-Any news on next weeks SNL skit?

Yes, all the cast members and Tina Fey will have their characters at a WH negotiation dinner with Bush and Paulson, which turns into a 3 Stooges food fight. Stay tuned.

Deserves to be repeated.

When you are president of the United States you may/will be called upon top handle more then one thing at a time. If McCain cant handle a debate for a few hours on Friday night while dealing with the current economic crises how in the world can anyone feel he can handle running our county. He cant actually think that he is only going to get one problem at a time if he wins. It seems to me that he either can not handle the pressures of running the country or he thinks he will not win the debate on Friday night.

#359 | POSTED BY STUART46 AT 2008-09-24 06:07 PM | REPLY | FLAG: NEWSWORTHY

Anyone who disagrees with me regarding anything, ever, is a shill.

I win another debate! Have a seat!

Nullifagian

350 posts so far on this thread an it's only 3:08 p.m. here in California. Bet ya the thread breaks 1000 posts by the end of the night?

#360 | Posted by CalifChris

damn

Rob must have had to work today.

Ah well, he's here in spirit.

Yes, Jeff. We all have brown eyes here.

Barney Frank just agreed saying, "It's just a stunt. He is trying to make himself important to something that is about to happen anyway."
Has anyone of the media asked Frank why he pulled a stunt that blocked a vote on two bills in 2003 and 2005 that would have prevented this mess? Didn't think so.

McCain "EJECT-EJECT-EJECT"

But The Economy Is Fundamentally Strong.....

LOL LOL LOL

Yes Spain Is In The South American Hemisphere

Yes The Shia Iran Is Supplying Sunni Al Queada

Yes We Are Below Iraq Invasion Troop Levels

Yes Iraq And Afghanistan Share A Border

Yes Czechoslovakia Is Still A Nation

No The Economy Is Something You Do Know Something About

No Your Campaign Manager Rick Davis Was Not Getting Paid By Freddy Mac Until Last Month After You Lost Your Temper Saying He Was Not On National TV

"It seems to me your candidate has never introduce legislation on any thing of any significance. "

Hey MouthBreather,

McCain is making a mistake. My opinion is that the debate preparing sessions are not going well.

Yes, all the cast members and Tina Fey will have their characters at a WH negotiation dinner with Bush and Paulson, which turns into a 3 Stooges food fight. Stay tuned.

#366 | Posted by Corky

Funny shit

McCain is a real scumbag for trying to inject presidential politics into this issue. People could lose homes, jobs and their retirment and McCain wants to go to Washington to stall the process and make it a partisan issue? This deal is going through with or without McCain and Obama; McCain just wants to attempt to leave his mark. The problem is he knows nothing about economics, so what good will he actually serve other than delaying the process for political purposes? Talk about putting personal politics before country and its citizens.

Letterman mocks McCain

David Letterman tells audience that McCain called him today to tell him he had to rush back to DC to deal with the economy.

Then in the middle of the taping Dave got word that McCain was, in fact just down the street being interviewed by Katie Couric. Dave even cut over to the live video of the interview, and said, "Hey Senator, can I give you a ride home?"

Earlier in the show, Dave kept saying, "You don't suspend your campaign. This doesn't smell right. This isn't the way a tested hero behaves." And he joked: "I think someone's putting something in his metamucil."

"He can't run the campaign because the economy is cratering? Fine, put in your second string quarterback, Sara Palin. Where is she?"

"What are you going to do if you're elected and things get tough? Suspend being president? We've got a guy like that now!"

"...that would have prevented this mess..."

Ha! Dream on.

The party of responsibility, desperately trying to shirk all responsibility.

McCain is a real scumbag for trying to inject presidential politics into this issue. People could lose homes, jobs and their retirment and McCain wants to go to Washington to stall the process and make it a partisan issue? This deal is going through with or without McCain and Obama; McCain just wants to attempt to leave his mark. The problem is he knows nothing about economics, so what good will he actually serve other than delaying the process for political purposes? Talk about putting personal politics before country and its citizens.

#376 | Posted by taxman

this is sad..he cant fix this and the bill wont fix this problem..

This is classic asset class deflation versus currency devaluation.

The Paulson's and other uber wealthy tools want the currency devaluation over the asset class deflation which hurts them the MOST.

If you inject 700 billion of liquidity from the taxpayer you essentially spread the debt of a few over all and essentially keep the bubble inflated.
This will cause massive inflation in the coming years which is why we saw commodity prices spike last week with anticipation of the bill passing.

If you let the whole debt bubble unwind you essentially revalue all goods and products and service at a much lower price. This is healthier and affects those that benefited MOST from the asset bubble.

I say let the whole thing unwind..propping up the debt bubble is just a giant kick the can down the road scenario. Its going to happen why not now?

Fuck wall street..you can paper your walls with the money you earned.

This is just a prelude to postponing the election.
Ask "Mayor" Giuluiani about this brilliant idea.

Hey Sarge,

which of the 57 states do you live in. I hope you didn't have insurance with the American Insurance Group that is having trouble.

You idiot.

I smell a rat!! He wants to move the debate back 1 week replacing the Vice Presidential debate with the one that was supposed to happen Friday. Could it be that they dont want Caribou Barbie to debate Biden? Or talk to the public, or reporters? And where are her tax records.

I agree, I dont believe this move is for the good of the country, McCain is not even on the comittee that is currently holding hearings. What is he going to do there?

McCain is a real scumbag for trying to inject presidential politics into this issue.
Taxman in 2005 he co-sponsered a bill to regulate the GSE's and was blocked by DEMS. This was a follow up attempt at an 2003 bill.

Now Obama claims McCain did nothing to stop this and actually encouraged it.

Sounds like Obmama is telling a lie. And knows it.

Legio

I've about come to the same conclusion today. It probably would be healthier to just let it go and start over.

I think we all know this 700,000,000,000.00 won't be the end of it.

Next month or the month after they'll be back and say they need another 900,000,000,000.00 to really, really, really fix it. "No, really. We mean it this time and will never, never, never ask again."

BREAKING NEWS...

McCain's camp is proposing the Presidential debate be rescheduled to October 2 -- the date the VP debate was to be held -- and then reschedule the VP debate to another time.

McCain said if the $700 billion bailout bill was not completed by Friday he would NOT be attending the Friday debate.

NBC said it has no plans on changing the date of Friday's debate to another date

stay tuned....

Thats probably his best shot, Ive said all along that Barack is going to make a fool out of McCain in the debates

Hey Midtown- 57 states? 57 states???

That's the best you got to counter McCain trying to bail out of the first debate?

Poor little man.

Now Mid.

Just what do you suppose AIG was insuring?

Why, it wouldn't have been covering losses in the mortgage market, would it?

McCain wants to forgo politics in this troubled time so he bails from the debate and "suspends his campaign"?

Like that's not a cheap, calculated, political move right there?

How dumb does he think most folks are?

Like Failin dumb or even Dumbya dumb?

If this is McCain trying to act like a leader then there's no need to alert the Acadamy.

Cos his acting sucks.

Be Well.

One of McCain's people was just on saying, why of course, John would be pleased to debate foreign policy with Obama on Friday, schedule permitting.

Foreign Policy?

Hey Sarge,

which of the 57 states do you live in. I hope you didn't have insurance with the American Insurance Group that is having trouble.

You idiot.

#381 | Posted by midtowncowboy at 2008-09-24 06:24 PM

No You A Fucking Ass Clown You Know he meant Primary Locations And If You Think Troop Level Vs States And Primary Location You A Part Of The 19 % Of Bush Supporters !

-Sarge

The press is going to be all over McCain Friday night. He blew it!

"Sincerely,

Nullifidian

#357 | Posted by JeffJ "

Looks like Mrs. Pinche Mao is stalking me now. lol

That's Ms. Pinche Mao, you douche!

;-)

How dumb does he think most folks are?

Like Failin dumb or even Dumbya dumb?

For some reason, I found that to be funny.

This just tells everyone that mccain is clearly not PRESIDENTIAL material. mccain is unable to cast his vote and run a campaign.

Well, alot more by far will being going on for a president and it will have to continue, there will be no suspending to help make one decision.

MCCAIN HERE SHOWS HE IS NOT CAPABLE OF BEING PRESIDENT.

"You defended Ayers by calling him a harmless vandal.

I smacked that shit down."

You're a legend in your own mind. Oliver North actually caused hundreds of people to be killed, Mrs. Mao.

So Obama says IF they need him he'll go anywhere anytime...

IF they need him? Oh and we can call his staff??

Obama is unprepared--no one is telling this guy what to do.

He is a farce--a feckless, spineless, empty suit.

The press conference by Obama was really telling--He puts politics over the American People.

Why--because no one needs him in DC--Nancy stretch Pelosi and Harry Reid are running the show and screwing it up and he can't do anything with those folks.

BTW--Howard Dean is on the golf course--he can't be reached for comment..That comment was at the beginning of Obama's press conference.

McCain cancelled the first day of the RNC for Gustav and he suspends his campaign to get the biggest finanacial crisis resolved for the American people.

Guess that there will be a Leadership meeting with Bush and McCain and other leaders of both parties going on Friday night--during the debates.

Where will Obama be??

Talking to himself at a debate--looking like the fool that he is--