RCADE, you posted this twice.

RCADE, you posted this twice.

People tend to get excited when the words "Pakistan" and "bomb" are used in the same sentence.

Tosser, good to see you're not in the Islamabad Marriott.

Dude... I live like 800 miles away...

"I live like 800 miles away... "

Posted by Tosser

I know where Karachi is.

Besides, I don't like going to snooty places like those.

Now that snooty place ain't going nowhere. LOL

Sad for the loss of life, but when you are dealing with nasty stuff, things like these are going to happen.

This is NOTHING compared to the daily bomb blasts and the bombs we found and caught during the Afghan war in the 80s.

I myself was 2 minutes away from getting killed when they (the Afghan secret service.. KHAD) bombed a music store I used to go to (this was way before the internet... in the 80s).

"bombed a music store"

That's it!
They're gonna die now!

That's it!
They're gonna die now!

LOL... I have always liked that old classic.

This was in the 1980s and we made sure they won't do that again. We made sure by giving them the Taliban.

When the US leaves... and leave you will... we should give the Afghans an even better gift than the Taliban.... something real imaginative this time.

" and leave you will "

Now if they'd just leave Texas.

It wasn't actually a bomb... someone just lit a match near a Pakistani's armpits...

To see the videos, we go to our Islamabad studios... or our Pak blog...

FTFA: Police say the blast occurred as a lorry approached the hotel and they suspect it was a suicide attack.

They suspect a suicide attack?

Whaaa?! Seems kinda obvious, don't it?

Police estimate that the blast was caused by more than a tonne of explosives. They are warning that the hotel could collapse.

Maybe they are having a hard time finding a piece of the suicide bomber that's big enuff to identify or sommat.

This attack on the Marriot is just another in a string of extremist bombings that have happened since the Red Mosque got even redder last year albeit splashier. No doubt American SpecOp forces operating in the FATA region are part of the reason for this latest outrage but it looks more and more like Pakistan is slipping into a civil war between it's religious and non secular citizenry.

At least Mushy is out of the picture for now.

People who kill fer their idea of God seriously need to wrap some more tin foil around their ariels cos their reception purely sucks.

Be Well.

Can you say crater?
I knew you could!

Death toll now at 55.
Expected to increase.

Zat -- Thanks for the YT link. Toss, in the mid-80s one of my friends from grad school was from .pk. He went to work for the airlines after that then disappeared for more than a year to go to "Religious Training Camp". I think he turned Taliban, but back then being a muhajadeen was considered a patriotic thing to do. How silly a thought that was.

Sorry your favorite music store got wrecked. Hope no one was hurt.

Peace.

He went to work for the airlines after that then disappeared for more than a year to go to "Religious Training Camp". I think he turned Taliban, but back then being a muhajadeen was considered a patriotic thing to do.

Back then, fighting the Russians was a good thing.

I knew a few kids in school who went into Afghanistan... on their own, the idiots... really fired a few pot-shots at some Russians and came back in one piece.

They sold their Russian souvenirs in the bazaars (looks like they really killed someone).

I went to the same bazaars and got some real nice Russian military jackets... with bullet holes in them. The previous owners didn't need them any more.

I got Russian military knives, boots... anything they could take off the dead soldiers, was sold in bazaars all over Pakistan. LOL

Our way of saying thanks for bombing our music stores. LOL

Some of my own relatives went into Afghanistan, back then, but came back in one day without firing a shot, because the rotten Afghan food gave them all food poisoning.

Those were far worse times. But I remember them fondly since a whole lot of Russians were getting killed everyday.

How silly a thought that was.

A different time, a different war. It wasn't silly at all back then.

Sorry your favorite music store got wrecked. Hope no one was hurt.

Oh, everyone there died.

Point is.. I knew or heard of many people who went into Afghanistan to fight the Russians and came away with a few kills and stuff to sell in the bazaar. It was common enough. I was in school so I couldn't go.. but I wanted to kill a few Russians too. Even today, I regret not killing a few.

NONE of the people I knew who went into Afghanistan... NONE of them turned taliban-style religious. None. They came back normal folk... no religious nonsense.

Like I said... that was a different time...

Ahhh, the 80s....

Oh, everyone there died.

2 minutes later and I would've joined them. LOL

Now, it's been... I don't know.. more than 10, 12 years.. since I went into a music store.

I swipe me music from the internets.

"Shoot at our helicopters, would ya? Consider this a hunting accident and smarten up."

Dick Cheney

Now, it's been... I don't know.. more than 10, 12 years.. since I went into a music store.

I swipe me music from the internets.

#17 | Posted by Tosser

Now we know why....can't blame ya for that-self preservation at it's best.....

"Shoot at our helicopters, would ya? Consider this a hunting accident and smarten up."

Dick Cheney

Are you saying America is behind this???

that-self preservation at it's best....

More like being a cheap-skate at it's best.

Why pay for something when it is to be had for free?

Northguy... Are you Canadian? The name suggests that you might be.

Just curious.

Why is this duplicate thread still open?

First thing I thought when I read this earlier on another website and saw the word "Marriott" was the explosion was "anti-American." Looks like it from the location and the people being targeted.

The Marriott is the most prestigious hotel in the capital,

everything but my first sentence got cut off. re-posting it --

First thing I thought when I read this earlier on another website and saw the word "Marriott" was the explosion was "anti-American." Looks like it from the location and the people being targeted.

The Marriott is the most prestigious hotel in the capital, and is located near government buildings and diplomatic missions.

It is popular with foreigners and the Pakistani elite. Security there is tight, with guests and vehicles subject to checks.

May I make a recommendation to Marriott headquarter? Next time you want to check trucks for explosives don't do it right in front of the hotel. Of course some jihadi types are going to set off the bomb if they're being searched and know the stuff will be found. Search the trucks at a distance away from the hotel before you let them drive right up to the front. Then again, if the hotel was downtown among a lot of other businesses that might not have been a possibility.

Well, if America is behind this, then they certainly don't care who dies since most of the casualties are westerners... including Americans.

Yes, the Americans might be responsible but they would use the Afghans to do it since they themselves will stick out.

Or it's the Indians. There was a series of bomb blasts in Delhi just a few days ago, which they... of course.. blamed on Pakistan, yet again.

They would also use the Afghans.

Or it is the Afghans on their own. They have done this before in the 80s like I explained.

If the Taliban are responsible... they are already being hit hard so their time is up.

It takes only one guy to set off a bomb.

This was done from the road... the truck didn't even enter the hotel parking lot. Tim McVeigh style.

As I see it, the Afghans are the problem. And we have handled them before.

Search the trucks at a distance away from the hotel

Then it would've gone off near where the useless, new, piece-of-shit, President, was making a speech.

The Marriott chain picks up bombs like a filthy person I know, picks up lice.

The Marriott in Karachi was also hit by a bomb once (not directly) since it is right next door to the American Consulate.

Article said

Toss the article luv. Have a peek at the videos I linked to.

Stereo.

There is a potato on this thread. It should be planted underground... not seen.

There is a potato on this thread. It should be planted underground... not seen.

Still carrying a torch fer the Mushmeister, Tosser?

How sweet is THAT?

Be Well.

Tosser-that was a tad tongue in cheek. Coming right after the shooting and the border threats, it seemed more than a little well timed...

RCADE

Late partying last night? lol

You've got this headline on the Front Page -- twice -- one headline right on top of another.

Where've you been, Tater!

Coming right after the shooting and the border threats, it seemed more than a little well timed...

Yes, quite possible. But like I explained, whoever is responsible (America or India), they would use Afghans.

America isn't going to win in Afghanistan anyway. If they could've won, they would've won by now. So such tactics are useless though I am not sure if they are smart enough to realize that.

If we get a hint it is America, then they will only find life more difficult inside Afghanistan.

If we get a hint it is India, retaliating for the bombs in Delhi a few days ago, then they are someone we are good at dealing with.

If it is the Pakistani taliban... they are getting the snot kicked out of them anyway.

If you watch closely in the next few days, it will be very clear to you who we found out to be behind this. They are going to have things getting a bit warm around them.

Give it a few days or a week or two.

How sweet is THAT?

It is very unseemly for a potato to make sexual innuendo. It's OK for us regular folk, not for you.

Either post in the other thread please or go underground, away from the light.

I will only respond in that thread. Too much work to post in two places.

There is one thing EVERYONE agrees on... even the US.

When it comes to dirty tricks and sabotage.. that sort of thing.. NOBODY is as good at it as Pakistan is. LOL

Give it a week or two. We might have found out who is behind this and you will see a reaction.

Not a direct reaction... but something with plenty of deniability.

You will either find the pak-taliban suddenly being hit harder then before... or something very different.

But you will be able to connect the dots.

Stay tuned.

Where've you been, Tater!

~CChris

Ha! Where hasn't Spud been?

Is prolly shorter list.

Spud's been biz wif work and fam damily stuff.

Spud is back now.

Is Home Stretch time, ya know.

The time when people who've only been eying this election wif their peripheral vision suddenly start to take serious notice and maybe narrow their eyes a little.

Yes, Spud too has noticed the double postings of a coupla different articles today.

Spud blames the blog-god's sluggish response on weak coffee.

Weak coffee is the bane of a civilised society.

Strewth!

Be Well.

Bush has gone after terrorists who happens to be Muslims so tough that here in America Muslims almost have to apologize for being Muslims.

In Pakistan, the nation is mostly Muslim and it can't control the terrorists.

In Europe, liberals are giving in to Islam inch by inch day by day.

In Europe, liberals are giving in to Islam inch by inch day by day.

You will also give in... 9 inches at a time.

Ah... the threads have been combined! Praise Fat-Buddha!

Yes.. Potato... you were saying?

Weak coffee is the bane of a civilised society.

Coffee is a jungle drink that makes one uncivilized.

Drink tea, like I do. Buddha drank tea, not coffee.

Anyway... I remeber the Islamabad Marriott.. one of my cousins got married there and I had to drag myself to the wedding.

Back then, (20 years ago) I thought "why can't this place just vanish"?

Oops! One should never think such thoughts.

Anyway... I remeber the Islamabad Marriott.. one of my cousins got married there and I had to drag myself to the wedding.

Back then, (20 years ago) I thought "why can't this place just vanish"?

Oops! One should never think such thoughts.

EEeeeeee!!!

Double post! Now he's got me doing it!

Why do tossers persist in turning Buddhism into a brand?

Weak coffee is the bane of a civilised society.

~Spud

Coffee is a jungle drink that makes one uncivilized.

Spuds already uncivilised.

Drink tea, like I do. Buddha drank tea, not coffee.

Spud enjoys drinking Chinese tea when out fer dins but that's about it.

Spud luffs properly horrifying people in the tonier places by adding soy sauce to his tea.

Tastes better that way.

Be Well.

Why do tossers persist in turning Buddhism into a brand?

What??? Where did I do THAT?

There really is a Fat-Buddha.

Spud luffs properly horrifying people in the tonier places by adding soy sauce to his tea.

Spud is going to get chucked out of fancy restaurant one day.

Spud is going to get chucked out of fancy restaurant one day.

Been there. Done that.

You fergit who yer talkin' to.

Spud's been kicked out of Denny's fer fucks sakes.

That's not easy to do.

Be Well.

Chinese green-tea is a pussy drink.

When I say tea, I mean like Lipton's regular black tea. None of that overpriced Darjeeling Earl-Grey nonsense. Just regular black tea with lots of milk and sugar.

Wakes you up in the morning and keeps you going.

I have like 10-20 mugs a day. (notice I said "mug", not "cup")

Spud's been kicked out of Denny's fer fucks sakes.

You are a scary potato.

The ambassador of Czech Republic, Ivo Zdarek, has been killed in the bomb explosion.

Trouble follows wherever Americans go:

ISLAMABAD: Was there a top secret and mysterious operation of the US Marines going on inside the Marriott when it was attacked on Saturday evening? No one will confirm it but circumstantial evidence is in abundance.

Witnessed by many, including a PPP MNA and his friends, a US embassy truckload of steel boxes was unloaded and shifted inside the Marriott Hotel on the same night when Admiral Mike Mullen met Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and others in Islamabad.

Both the main gates (the entrance and the exit) of the hotel were closed while no one except the US Marines were either allowed to go near the truck or get the steel boxes unloaded or shift them inside the hotel. These steel boxes were not passed through the scanners installed at the entrance of the hotel lobby and were reportedly shifted to the fourth and fifth floors of the Marriott.

Besides several others, PPP MNA Mumtaz Alam Gilani and his two friends, Sajjad Chaudhry, a PPP leader, and one Bashir Nadeem, witnessed this mysterious activity to which no one other than the PPP MNA objected and protested.

A source present there told The News that after entertaining them with refreshments at the Nadia restaurant at midnight when Mumtaz Alam, along with his friends, was to leave the hotel, he found a white US embassy truck standing right in front of the hotel's main entrance.

Both the In-gate and the Out-gate of the hotel were closed while almost a dozen well-built US Marines in their usual fatigues were unloading the steel boxes from the truck. No one, including the hotel security men, was either allowed to go near the truck or touch the steel boxes, which were being shifted inside the hotel but without passing through the scanners.

Upon inquiry, one of the three PPP friends who was waiting for the main gates of the hotel to open to get his car in, was informed that the suspicious boxes were shifted to the fourth and fifth floors of the hotel. Mumtaz Alam was furious both at the US Marines and the hotel security not only for the delay caused to them but also for the security lapse he was witnessing.

On his protest, there was absolutely no response from the Marines and the security men he approached were found helpless. Mumtaz Alam told the hotel security official that they were going to endanger the hotel and its security. He was also heard telling his friends that he would never visit the hotel again. He also threatened to raise the issue in parliament.

One does not know whether the PPP MNA revisited the hotel after that mysterious midnight but his brother Imtiaz Alam, who is a senior journalist, was in the same hotel when the truck exploded at the main gate of the hotel. Imtiaz Alam had a lucky escape and found his way out of the hotel with great difficulty in pitch darkness.

One of the lifts he was using fell to the ground floor just after he forced the door open on the 4th floor and got out of it.

Well, anti-American public opinion has gone up a notch or two, even though War-Chimp is trying to be at his most helpful.

People don't know... actually, they don't care... who is behind this. All they know is, America is trying very hard to make Pakistan shoot some people for America.

Maybe it would be better if we ease up on the Taliban (hundreds of whom have been killed by the Pak army in the last few months) and instead give them weapons and send them across the border to go give the Americans an extra-warm time?

This is what people want right now.

And they are right. No America in the region, no trouble. The Taliban will melt away on their own. They are only reacting to Americans killing innocent people in Afghanistan. And they see us helping the US which makes them angry. Understandable.

I suspect some in the Pakistan military are in collusion with terrorists, that's why Bin Laden could hide in the mountains of Pakistan.

Evidence: Pakistan military rely on terrorists to disturb India when it suits their puroses.

America needs to know that Pakistan leaders cannot be fully trusted and the terrorists network in the area cannot be fully penetrated.

Oh Muslim terrorists, why do you create problems around the world? --- Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, Russia, Britain,......

#58 | Posted by Tosser
This would seem to make the attack being instigated by the U.S. very unlikely. I have no idea why you'd think we'd do that--it would only come back to bite us later.

No America in the region, no trouble

I'm not so sure. We pretty much ignored the region after the Soviets left. Left to their own devices, Afghanistan became a haven for Al Qaeda and their buddies, the Taliban. Then Al Qaeda had to go and crash airplanes into our buildings, tick us off, and give us a reason to come over there.

it would only come back to bite us later.

Yes it will.

I suspect some in the Pakistan military are in collusion

You "suspect"? YOU???

YOU suspected your own mother when she gave birth to you.

LOL.... Keep your suspecting for who sat on this toilet seat before you did. That's how you got them cooties.

Afghanistan became a haven for Al Qaeda and their buddies, the Taliban.

Yes, yes... we were the very first in the world to tell you that. Back then you were not listening.

Now we are saying something new.

That the ordinary Afghans (not the Taliban) are now against you.

Wars come with an expiry-date. You have to end them before that date or they become stale and dangerous. The war in Afghanistan should have ended long long ago. But since you couldn't end it in more than 7 years, it is clear, you can't win. Staying on will only further hurt everyone involved.

I am now sure chasing after Bin Ladin is just an excuse. You will never find him. If you had been able to, you would have found him by now.

Now you are going to get your last chance.

US and Pakistan are going to have an agreement, it is said. A whole bunch of American "advisers" will come and command our troops and go look for Bin Ladin and his people. This way both Pakistan and America can keep their eyes on each other and still do the job.

Now we shall see how good you are. LOL

Now we shall see how good you are. LOL

#65 | Posted by Tosser

..or how good WE are together.

I hope this works because the American public would rather us be done and come home too. (We were just hoping the Afghani people could protect themselves from a Taliban or Al Qaeda resurgence first.)

We were just hoping the Afghani people could protect themselves from a Taliban or Al Qaeda resurgence first.

The Afghani people hate America and now support the Taliban BECAUSE you gave them President Karsick.

Karsick is one of the most despised men in Afghanistan. Everyone knows he comes from a family of drug-lords (heroin).

I can guarantee you, if you leave Afghanistan and don't take this guy with you... he will be killed right after the last American plane takes off.

The Afghani people hate America and now support the Taliban BECAUSE you gave them President Karsick.

Tosser hits the nail on the head.

Over the past two years, the Taliban's revival has been fueled by fast-growing popular dissatisfaction with Karzai's government, which has failed to bring services and security to much of the country. Deepening public resentment against civilian deaths caused by U.S. and NATO alliance airstrikes is another factor.

No one here believes that the insurgents, estimated at 10,000 to 15,000 fighters, are currently capable of seizing the capital of Kabul or toppling the government, which is backed by more than 130,000 international troops. But a series of spectacular urban attacks in recent months, notably the bombing of the Indian Embassy and an armed assault on a parade reviewing stand where Karzai sat, have turned Kabul into a maze of bunkers and barricades that drive officialdom ever farther from the public.

In many regions a short drive from the capital, some of them considered safe even six months ago, residents and officials said the Taliban now controls roads and villages, patrolling in trucks and recruiting new fighters. Its members execute government employees, bomb and burn cargo trucks on the highway, and search bus passengers for foreign passports and cellphones programmed with official numbers.

Afghan saying..."Cursed be the man who picks a fight at night when he is drunk and then apologizes in the morning like a pussy."

They use THIS saying when they talk about President Karsick. LOL. He is called a pussy and crook.

I don't think most Americans realize how this worm.... "President" Karsick... sells you out everyday when his brother does drug-deals with the Taliban when the Americans aren't watching.

The Taliban buy weapons with the money from the heroin they sell to his brother.

This leads to major intelligence failures.

And that was just one example I gave you.

To be honest Tosser, I had no idea he was that bad. Our media seems too focused on other things to cover much of Afghanistan now. Black market dealings don't grab their attention like bombs do.

You're our resident expert on that part of the world--what would you do to make Afghanistan a stable country capable joining the rest of the world on peaceful terms?

Well... you can help them build a railway, I guess (to start with).

I think (not sure) that Afghanistan is the only country in the world without a railroad!

Look at American history. How was the West won? Clint Eastwood didn't do it. And neither did the Pony Express. It was the railroads that opened up the country.

If America hadn't made railroads, the Injuns would still be in control, perhaps.

Trains make a huge difference.

The people in Afghanistan are the same ethnic Pathans (or Pashtun) as the people in the North-West of Pakistan.

Yet... we have internet, TV, cars, money, banks, businesses, homes, cities, communications, etc.

There are about 10 million Pathans in Afghanistan and over 25 million in the NWFP State of Pakistan.

You can see, that we... while being the same people... are light years ahead of the Afghans.

Why?

100 years ago the British gave us a railroad in the mountains. Smart buggers, the Englishmen.

Maybe that is why.

A railroad....I wonder if anyone in our State department ever thought of that. It seems they are focused more on roads which requires cars and trucks. A European style mass-transit railroad system would be much more affordable to a poor war torn people. I suspect the people in charge of the rebuilding focused too much on the latest gadgets, like cell phones, without building the prerequisite basic infrastructure first.

The latest gadgets are nice... but you can't ignore the old-school basics.

Take cell-phones, for example. Afghans use cell phones because they don't have normal phones.

Knowing this, the Taliban... about 4 months ago... blew up a few cell phone towers and cut off communications in a whole province.

So easy.

They could not have done that if the Afghans had what you and I call a telephone.

Cell-phones are also targets. The Taliban will kill someone for their cell phone to see the list of important numbers on it. Reinheitsgebot posted the same.

If the Afghans had ham radio that wouldn't happen.

Tally my banana ...

"Okay, saw the pictures of the Marriott fully on fire, so we can expect video of it collapsing like it was imploded any time now."

PNIST

And they just have to stop working against Pakistan.

If they continue to host RAW operatives (Research and Analysis Wing, Indian secret service) so they can sneak into Pakistan from Afghanistan, they are just asking to get nailed by Pakistan.... again.

One month ago, in one of our major anti-Taliban operations in a beautiful place called "Swat", we used gunships to flatten the whole area (the population had left, leaving the taliban to fight).

Guess what we found?

Three dead bodies of uncircumcised "Taliban" (an impossibility). Hindus. Indian agents. RAW. In Pakistan. Acting like Taliban. Running guns.

The moment you leave, we will deal with the Afghans. We are only waiting for America to leave.

We will make sure they will behave themselves for the next hundred years. LOL

You can see, we have a pretty good idea who might be behind the hotel bomb blast.

Or it was the first detonating system failing to set off the main charge.

So they used a backup detonator that set off the bomb.

Many terrorist bombs use more than one detonators... in case of failure.

The driver might not even have known. He might have been paid to "go drive your truck full of construction material (which is what the truck was for) to the gate of the hotel. They are excepting you."

The detonators were set off by remote, most likely.

The world is full of simple folk. Might not have been a "suicide" bomb.

"They are excepting you." = Expecting you

"Yes, quite possible. But like I explained, whoever is responsible (America or India), they would use Afghans."

Tosser always seems to get a kick out of the fact that his country encourages and protects extremists who like to blow things up. But he can't seem to put two and two together when things start blowing up in Pakistan. He'll still be blaming America and India when he's not allowed to fly kites or listen to music or watch sporting events, etc. etc. etc.

"The world is full of simple folk."

Posted by Tosser

America's got a host of 'em, that's for sure.

Flakes! Flakes!
Flakes! Flakes!

They don't do no good
They never be workin'
When they oughta should
They waste your time
They're wastin' mine
California's got the most of them
Boy, they got a host of them
Swear t'God they got the most
At every business on the coast
Swear t'God they got the most
At every business on the coast
They got the Flakes

Flakes! Flakes!
-Zappa

But he can't seem to put two and two together when things start blowing up in Pakistan.

Guess you can't read.

Read all my posts above again.

He'll still be blaming America and India

And you will still be insisting "we are there to give democracy to Afghanistan" while bombing the shit out of them from 10,000 feet. LOL

When it comes to dirty work... intelligence agencies usually use disposable people for hire.

Where do they find disposable people for hire?

From other, shittier intelligence agencies... or from the criminal underworld.

The Indians are known to use Afghans for missions inside Pakistan. They have to.

Most Indians... much darker in color and with a different accent.. stand out in Pakistan. And they can't speak Pushto anyway. Indians send out their own into Pakistan only when they are really desperate.

Same problem with the Americans. They will stand out because of the language problem.

This was the exact problem the Russians faced. That is why they used KHAD (afghan secret service at the time) to plant their bombs here.

In Peshawer city, for example, every third person walking the streets of some neighborhoods, is an Afghan from Afghanistan (BBC). So, yeah they have no problems since Afghans have always been for hire. "Anything for buck", we call these people.

Why is it always a Marriott getting hit by bombs?

" Why is it always a Marriott? "

Paris Hilton is behind this.

According to media reports, the explosive used has been identified. Not home-made.

Paris Hilton is behind this.

Now I understand. lol

"Not home-made."

Posted by Tosser

I'm shocked!
Honest!

I'm shocked! Honest!

Err... why???

Tosser missed the sarcasm.

Once the chemists get through looking at the residue they'll know who made the explosive.

Trace contamination always gives it away.

Tosser missed the sarcasm.

Not totally...

Once the chemists get through looking at the residue they'll know who made the explosive.

It doesn't seem to be American. It is military grade, though.

"It doesn't seem to be American."

That's a relief.
I'm betting Iranian.

"And you will still be insisting "we are there to give democracy to Afghanistan" while bombing the shit out of them from 10,000 feet. LOL"

I've never claimed that the war in Afghanistan is or should be about democracy. It should be about killing people who have attacked us For some reason Bush decided 9/11 wasn't a good enough reason for us to be in Afghanistan.

I'm betting Iranian.

There is enough off-the-shelf Iranian ammo, explosives and guns in Afghanistan. They supply the Shia population there.

Or was that more sarcasm?

I've never claimed that the war in Afghanistan is or should be about democracy.

Your Govt. claimed it.

It should be about killing people who have attacked us

That you have done.

Bin Ladin didn't plan 9-11. KSM did. And we got KSM and gave him to you.

Now it is all about killing ordinary Afghans who gather for weddings, only to have the stuffing knocked out of them when they are bombed as "taliban".

"Or was that more sarcasm?"

Posted by Tosser

I hope so.

"Now it is all about killing ordinary Afghans who gather for weddings, only to have the stuffing knocked out of them when they are bombed as "taliban"."

It's a war. People die. Their government supported people who came over here and killed our civilians. That forced our government to send people over there and now their civilians will suffer. And of course your government allows the people we really want to hide under its skirts, which increases confusion and guarantees that more Afghanis die needlessly. The question is whether Afghanis will be stupid enough to put people in power who will guarantee this happens again once we leave. The fact that they failed to figure out that the Taliban's actions were going to get them bombed in the first place doesn't make me optismistic.

Mumtaz Alam told the hotel security official that they were going to endanger the hotel and its security.

Which it very may well have.

He was also heard telling his friends that he would never visit the hotel again.

That's kinda a given by now.

He also threatened to raise the issue in parliament.

See above answer.

Nice posts on this thread, Tosser.

Spud'll agree that the Afghan war is well past it's "best before" date at this time and that the Mayor of Kabul aka Hamhed Karsick's inability to do fer his people outside his capital is a large part of that.

By now it must seem fairly obvious to the majority of Afghanis that the US/Intl involvement in Afghanistan has more to do with babysitting long desired pipeline construction projects now underway than fer any of the officially stated reasons.

Like in Iraq, the inability to provide security or provide basic serivces and infrastructure to the people has soureed wot little enthusiasm the occupation ever engendered.

Now it is all about killing ordinary Afghans who gather for weddings, only to have the stuffing knocked out of them when they are bombed as "taliban".

That certainly doesn't help.

Be Well.

/Spud's on cuppa Joe numero 5 at the mo.
//How many mugs of Liptons you up to?
///Mmmmm, cafeinated goodness!
////Scary potato? You haff no idear! ^_^

And of course your government allows the people we really want to hide under its skirts

I think that is just American imagination.

Whenever Americans start losing a guerrilla war, they blame the neighbors... like blaming Cambodia for their troubles in Vietnam... or blaming Iran and Syria for their troubles in Iraq.

So it is only expected that when they can't handle Afgahnistan, they would start blaming Pakistan.

Blame everyone but themselves. Always works for the American public. Find a villain.

How many mugs of Liptons you up to?

11, 12, so far today. LOL

Blame everyone but themselves. Always works for the American public. Find a villain.

America doesn't just find villains Tosser.

America makes it own.

See Sadamn Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, The Taliban back when they were killing Ruskies, Pinochet, the Shah of Iran, Hosni Mubarek, etc etc ad nauseum.

Some are folks who at one point were supported by the US and who were eventually vilified and made into pop-up enemies and some others who still recieve support.

Wot do you know about a guy named Gen. Zia ul-Haq?

The blank checks Washington wrote to Gen. Zia ul-Haq of Pakistan in the 1980's helped nurture what later became Al Qaeda.

Wot do you know about a guy named Gen. Zia ul-Haq?

Plenty. Couldn't stand the sight of him.

The blank checks Washington wrote to Gen. Zia ul-Haq of Pakistan in the 1980's helped nurture what later became Al Qaeda.

Zia gave such a kick to the Russians, the Soviet Union died.

If it hadn't been for Pakistan and Zia and Charlie Wilson and a few more true American patriots, the Soviets would still be around.

I didn't like the man, but he made it all happen. Blaming al-Qaeda on Zia, is just silly.

Good to know yer awake!

It's 0045. I usually go to bed at 3.

Who can sleep with so much Lipton?

Now it is all about killing ordinary Afghans who gather for weddings, only to have the stuffing knocked out of them when they are bombed as "taliban".

#99 | Posted by Tosser at 2008-09-21 01:33 PM

oh sure... American just loves to bomb weddings...you are really like to toss those turds don't you?

What rube. Just the other day you bragged out you had all these extremists "under control". So, this is how you control them?

Nice work!

As for the wedding "slander", you know if your people would wise up and not fire rifles in the air in the middle of a war you might draw less attention from our gunships that are flying overhead and your weddings might go better. Just a thought.

I actually do enjoy reading your posts Turd Tosser...you do have some insight into the Pakistani Mind but it sure is a trip through the Looking Glass and right down the old rabbit hole to listen to you sometimes.

And now you say that a mysterious operation of the US Marines (was) going on inside the Marriott when it was attacked? And here I thought your Military had "changed" it's mind and was shooting at us if we came into your country yet you have us in your hotels? So, are you working with us or are you gonna shoot us?

Make up your collective minds if you have one Pakistani. You can't take our F16s and our money and expect to get it with no strings attached.

The US Marines ARE coming to a "theater" near you and you won't even need a ticket to get in as you are already there!

If your people want us to go home and quit mucking around in "your" part of the world you are going to have to make some changes...just like we are having to make some CHANGES here. Or, do you really think that you can take our cash and advanced weapons systems and things will just go on as they always have?

And I really think that you need to clean up that mess in your border areas or "Team America" will have to do it for you. And it doesn't matter who wins this election. I think it is going to happen. And I can bet they won't do it the way you (or I) like it.

I am sorry to say that I warned you. The so-called "central focus" on the so-called war on terror is coming home to roost...right where it started... in your backyard. (though I don't think Saudi Arabia should get off the hook either but THAT is another story)

Regardless, it looks like you will get a front row seat! So, Lucky YOU!

And you blame the American people for your problems.

Well, your people need to look inward too friend and while America is not blameless by any means you folks need to look at what your own country has done to allow this "problem" to fester like an open sore. These events are not occurring in an "American Vacuum".

Having said all that I am sorry that "they" are still blowing up your people. And I really do hope that you don't get hurt by it all. Sounds like it has already gotten a bit close for comfort and it will probably get worse before it gets any better..

So, good luck and be safe! And once again I remind you (and tell your friends) it is not nice to shoot at the US Marines! That just won't turn out well for you.

Semper Fi

So, this is how you control them?

And you can't control Afghanistan, punk.

Any one guy can set up a bomb. I did say that.

Try and keep up.

As for the wedding "slander", you know if your people

My people?

This happened... and keeps happening in Afghanistan, stupid ex-Marine.

Try and keep up.

And now you say that a mysterious operation of the US Marines (was) going on inside the Marriott when it was attacked?

It was in the newspaper. I am not the one who said it.

Try and keep up.

I am sorry to say that I warned you.

You warned me??? All I recall you saying is "Obama Obama Obama!!!"

You are saying Obama bombed the Marriott???

Wow!

it is not nice to shoot at the US Marines! That just won't turn out well for you.

BonerBoy got... a boner.

Dude... you don't understand shit, as everyone can see, and you never contribute anything intelligent.

All you do it rant and whine.

Just like Obama. LOL

Oh, and Simper Fie!

Waste of space....

What is that song on YouTube? Your theme song?

"I learnt it from Obama. I learnt it from Obama!".

LOL

And you blame the American people for your problems.

Of course.

People like you are only too eager to kill anything that moves without trying to talk to it first.

Then you want others to help you clean up your shit.

Pakistan isn't your problem, stupid ex-Marine BonerBoy.

It is Afghanistan... where you kill and bomb people out to celebrate weddings. It is not slander. It was reported by NATO and by the UN.

Even if we plant land-mines along the border (one of the plans under consideration... very doable), you will still be getting attacked by the Taliban inside Afghanistan.

Even the ordinary Afghans want to kill you now.

Seen the video I linked to a few days ago?

Idiot.

I think I have said all that is to be said.

Now, boys and girls, I leave it to Dumroo to give you his idiot version.

You're on Dumroo... BonerBoy.

You have the stage. Say something new.

from Rcade's DR backpages...

What Was Mysterious Activity Going on in the Marriott Hotel Islamabad by United States Marines
Sunday, 21 September 2008 12:18 www.daily.pk
Marriott Hotel has now become a ghost house which was yesterday the most beautiful and prestigious hotels in the Islamabad. While the condemnation of the blasts and the deaths and the loss of property is going on from all the quarters, some intriguing news is also pouring in.

After the blast, mysteriously fire was started at the fourth and fifth floors. It was said that this fire was the result of gas pipeline burst running through the hotel. The million dollar question is that was the gas pipeline not running through the other floors? Why the fire broke out from the fourth and fifth flours? That is the question which perhaps holds the key to the mystery as why the hotel was targeted yesterday, in which more than 60 people died including many foreigners.

Though it would never get confirmed but the fire on the fifth and fourth floor of the hotel broke out because those flours were housing the mysterious steel boxes under the heavy guard of United States marines and no one including the Pakistani security forces and the security men of the hotel were allowed to go near with the them. These boxes were shifted inside the hotel when the Admiral Mike Mullen met Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and others in Islamabad.

It is said that one member of parliament Mumtaz Alam who belongs to the PPP, the ruling party was there eye witnessed the whole scene when the white truck of US embassy came to the gate of Marriot Hotel and US marines themselves unloaded the steel boxes from the trucks and shifted them to the fourth and fifth floors without passing through them the scanners at the entrance of the hotels. When the truck was there, all the entrance and the exit passage way to the hotels were closed.

And now this blast has occurred at the Marriott, while that mysterious activity was going on.

May I make a recommendation to Marriott headquarter? Next time you want to check trucks for explosives don't do it right in front of the hotel. Of course some jihadi types are going to set off the bomb if they're being searched and know the stuff will be found. Search the trucks at a distance away from the hotel before you let them drive right up to the front. Then again, if the hotel was downtown among a lot of other businesses that might not have been a possibility.

#27 | Posted by CalifChris

be sure to check with US Marines, M 15's & CIA, too...where to put 'em bombs...

And here I thought your Military had "changed" it's mind and was shooting at us if we came into your country yet you have us in your hotels?

Huh?

Americans are/were always free to come and go in Pakistan.

Guess your brain can't process the info?

They are not allowed to attack across the border.

Big difference.

Are you in Kindergarten?

My exact words were "you people have no idea how close we work together on some of the stuff".

Boys and Girls... as you can see, I call him Dumroo for a reason. LOL

was yesterday the most beautiful and prestigious hotels in the Islamabad.

Nawww... I seen bigger and better over there. Which again makes me ask the question... why always a damn Marriott?

Anyways.. bye for now.

Nawww... I seen bigger and better over there. Which again makes me ask the question... why always a damn Marriott?

#117 | Posted by Tosser

because I work for them?

Americans are/were always free to come and go in Pakistan.

Mysterious Marines are free to come and go in your country now too? Well, that IS news to me.

Really you need to make up your mind.

So, now you don't mind having the US Marines in your country?

I think these Marines were just working for the Embassy anyway not on some "mystery project" as you have alluded (tho all the Marines' "projects" would be "mysteries" to you) and apparently there were other diplomats that were killed (and there is a Dane still missing?) in this blast. But, what if they were doing something "mysterious"? So what? Someone needs to do something mysterious! Pakistan obviously needs some help. This blast was obviously meant to destabilize your country further.

Boys and Girls... as you can see, I call him Dumroo for a reason. LOL

#116 | Posted by Tosser at 2008-09-21 05:10 PM

And that reason is because you are a Turd Tosser?

Your Turd Tossing does not impress me. Do you see "boys and girls" why I call him the Turd Tosser?

Always with the nasty Turd Tossing!