From Paglia's article:

John McCain -- that hoary, barnacle-encrusted tub that many Democrats like me had thought was full of holes and swirling to its doom in the inky depths of Republican incoherence and fratricide. Gee whilikers, the McCain vampire just won't die! Hit him with a hammer, and he explodes like a jellyfish into a hundred hungry pieces.

Oh, the sadomasochistic tedium of McCain's imprisonment in Hanoi being told over and over and over again at the Republican convention. Do McCain's credentials for the White House really consist only of that horrific ordeal? Americans owe every heroic, wounded veteran an incalculable debt of gratitude, but how do McCain's sufferings in a tiny, squalid cell 40 years ago logically translate into presidential aptitude in the 21st century? Cast him a statue or slap his name on a ship, and let's turn the damned page.

We need a new generation of leadership with fresh ideas and an expansive, cosmopolitan vision -- which is why I support Barack Obama and have contributed to his campaign. My baby-boom generation -- typified by the narcissistic Clintons -- peaked in the 1960s and is seriously past it. But McCain, born before Pearl Harbor, is even older than we are! Why would anyone believe that he holds the key to the future? And why would anyone swallow that preening passel of high-flown rhetoric about "country above all" coming from a seething, short-fused character whose rampant egotism, zigzagging principles, and currying of the gullible press were the distinguishing marks of his senatorial career?

Women of the world. Now hear this.

If you are gonna play with the big boys be prepared to get flattened. This ain't no pick-up game. this is professional. If you can't handle it because you have a vagina, then stay the hell out of the game.

These people (including me) do not care how many kids you have or what church you belong to or how you 'feel' about anything.

If you are gonna get in politics, you are asking for the whole works.

Also, it is sexist to suggest that someone should run for office and win just because they have a vagina.

Doc,

What is the point of your highlighted text?

Are you surprised that it's possible to support Obama without denigrating Palin?

Camille Paglia, the Germaine Greer of her generation, always wants to have it both ways. Attention to herself is always primary.

But she makes several good points. Women are vulnerable to the appeal of Sarah Palin because so often they have endured miserable lives dominated by men, and they see her as succeeding and sexy too, and not a frump like they feel they have turned into (Just look at those Hillary maniacs). But they must also see that she is thoroughly soaked in the unbearably intolerant juices of the fundamentalist Christian movement, which is a total denial of the greatest freedoms we have. Women are no dumber than men, but they may have stronger emotional reactions. There are enough dumb people to just vote against the change we need for fear of anything else, or not vote at all. The Democrats have to turn people on to the Possible. Don't just settle for more of the same.

Doc,

What is the point of your highlighted text?

#3 | Posted by anton

When has he ever had a point? He's the king of cut and paste.

This is why I have always like Paglia. I don't always agree with her, but she is honest and straightforward.

I am always bemused by groups who promote the advancement of their own particular ethnic/racial/or gender identity but will not acknowledge the accomplishments of one of their own if he or she is not in lockstep with the party line.

Academia is too often controlled by thought police and feminists, like others, often follow the herd mentality. Paglia is a feminist, there is no question, yet she doesn't simply tow the party line. She is an independent thinker who does not feel threatened by ideas different from her own. She is always worth reading and considering.

Cheers

"What is the point of your highlighted text?"

Take a wild guess, Anton.

"Are you surprised that it's possible to support Obama without denigrating Palin?"

Who's denigrating Palin?
I've said for days she's a liar and loon.
That's not denigration; it's fact.

"But they must also see that she is thoroughly soaked in the unbearably intolerant juices of the fundamentalist Christian movement"

#4 | Posted by sitdown at 2008-09-10 10:38 AM | Reply

I have to disagree with you somewhat on that point. Palin is a Pentecostal. Pentecostalism has always had an egalitarian streak in it. Women (and racial minorities) have held positions of leadership and authority in Pentecostalism since its inception. That cannot be said about other groups that might be otherwise associated in some ways with Christian fundamentalism.

People want change, but not all change is good. I would agree that Bush and Co have screwed things up, but if you think it is bad now, just wait and see what it will be like with a Dem President and Congress. Raising taxes and growing gov is not the answer to what is wrong. I would agree that there needs to be legislation to make things more transparent and we need to figure out how to keep good jobs here in the US, but Taxes and a bigger gov will only drive jobs out of the country. This is the dilema that I feel a lot of people are facing in this election. The Repubs have not been true to conservative things and we do not know that we can trust McCain to follow through on those things. But we do know that the Dems will follow through on their promise to raise taxes and grow gov, so we have to pick between the lesser of two evils.

As far as Palin, she has conservative beliefs and the whole getting corruption out of gov is enticing. As far as I can see there is no concrete evidence that she has tried to force her religions beliefs on any one through her office as Mayor or Governor. So I am content to leave it at that until I find out otherwise.

I really should not comment on the whole feminist thing, but I will... It seems that in this situation the intollerance is being shown by the left. She does not agree with them, so they attack. If people are going to scream choice then they have to be ready to accept that people will make different choices than they would make themselves.

There is by-the-way, hypocracy on both sides of this issue.

I've said for days she's a liar and loon.
That's not denigration; it's fact.

#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2008-09-10 10:47 AM | Reply

Camille Paglia's text that you highlighted proves that Palin is a liar and a loon?

I don't care about Paglia's opinion about Palin, I don't care about Palin. This election is not about Sarah Palin. This election is about the economy stupid and all this other stuff is just a distraction from what really matters.

"Camille Paglia's text that you highlighted proves that Palin is a liar and a loon?"

You can type, so I'm going to assume you also know how to read.
Do yourself a favor, get tested to see what's the matter with your comprehension skills.
Could be a processing problem.

Palin was appointed by a man. I'd like to see a woman succeed in politics on their own. I wouldn't vote for one, 'cause their loony.

You can type, so I'm going to assume you also know how to read.
Do yourself a favor, get tested to see what's the matter with your comprehension skills.
Could be a processing problem.

#12 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2008-09-10 11:08 AM | Reply

Or, it could be that I'm having difficulty because your comments are submoronic, bordering on the braindead, and generally not comprehensible.

Now, if you would be so kind, please explain how the text you highlighted goes to show that Palin is a liar and a loon.

"I have one thing to say to Sarah Palin and the Republican Party. If you all want the press to lay off the story of her daughter's pregnancy because it is a private family matter, then aren't mine and every other American woman's reproductive decisions a private family matter too"?

Palin was appointed by a man. I'd like to see a woman succeed in politics on their own.

#13 | Posted by LeeAtwater at 2008-09-10 11:11 AM | Reply

Which man appointed her mayor and governor?

"Women of the world. Now hear this. If you are gonna play with the big boys be prepared to get flattened. This ain't no pick-up game. this is professional. If you can't handle it because you have a vagina, then stay the hell out of the game."

ROFLMAO !!! Well, Barry seems to think different as he whines about his press coverage. Mr "I can dish it out but I can't take it" Obama is saying uncle after less than 24 hours after his slam with double meaning (1 for the listeners and 1 for the press).

I've said for days she's a liar and loon.

Doc S is correct - this has nothing to do with what Paglia said, Anton.

"redefining the personna for female authority and leadership"
but she's afraid to answer questions; Bush in drag.

"Or, it could be that I'm having difficulty because your comments are submoronic, bordering on the braindead, and generally not comprehensible."

No, I'd say it's a processing problem.
Something to do with the wiring in your noggin.
But *sigh* let's try again, shall?

"What is the point of your highlighted text?"
Take a wild guess, Anton.

"Are you surprised that it's possible to support Obama without denigrating Palin?"
Who's denigrating Palin?
I've said for days she's a liar and loon.
That's not denigration; it's fact.
#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2008-09-10 10:47 AM |

You are able to see that you asked two questions, yes? And that I answered two questions, yes? What makes you think they necessarily travel in tandem?
(See, that's why I think it has to do with the wiring.)
Two questions, two answers.
Your error was in thinking they were necessarily two parts of one unified whole. Which they aren't.
Come back when you've gotten your diagnosis.

Anton,

I'll re-phrase.

Palin was appointed by a man. I'd like to see a woman succeed in national politics on their own.

"What is the point of your highlighted text?"

Take a wild guess, Anton.

#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2008-09-10 10:47 AM | Reply

Translation:

I have no point other than to screech "Palin Bad .... Palin Not Democrat..."

Don't ask thoughtful questions. My advisors, Evan Williams and (whoever makes) Generic Vodka, get upset.

Drunk_Sarvis

Also, it is sexist to suggest that someone should run for office and win just because they have a vagina.

#2 | Posted by goblinsrreal2

I dont think we on the right have believed or stated this. she is a conservative with a vagina and theres the reason behind my support.

on they're own.

8:23 here. Coffee! More coffee!

BLT is crying out to be dominated.

I've said for days she's a liar and loon.

#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Does that mean she sits in the cold water and shits through feathers?

Who's denigrating Palin?
I've said for days she's a liar and loon.
That's not denigration; it's fact.

#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2008-09

good one doc..

please refer to factcheck.com and learn how bloggers, probably many like yourself, have started these rumors and have made them popular to repeat.
you will find that funding cut, membership in alaska independence, not her child but her daughters, book banning, ARE ALL LIES THEMSELVES and if you continue to spread them or support them, then I believe that would make you complicit in spreading lies which would make you a.....????????

factcheck.......its not hard to get to

I've said for days she's a liar and loon.

Doc S is correct - this has nothing to do with what Paglia said, Anton.

#18 | Posted by sitdown at 2008-09-10 11:18 AM | Reply

I hope you and Doc realize that saying something emphatically and often does not prove the matter asserted; i.e., "Palin is a loon. FACT!" Palin is a liar" FACT!"

factcheck.......its not hard to get to
Posted by bushlovertwo

Not if you can get to it, it isn't.

Palin is smart, beautiful, honest, conservative and I for one, LOVE HER!

FACT!

"I hope you and Doc realize that saying something emphatically and often does not prove the matter asserted"

Obviously.
Now, go tell that to McCain-Palin.

"Palin was appointed by a man. I'd like to see a woman succeed in national politics on their own."

I thought conservatives hated affirmative action. Making a two-bit bumpkin VP is affirmative action on steroids.

"then I believe that would make you complicit in spreading lies which would make you a.....????????"

....a member of the McCain campaign. They are lying their asses off about Obama's tax plan and just about everything else. John McCain has shown himself to be nothing but a liar and Palin goes right along with it so she is just as bad.

"Palin is smart, beautiful, honest, conservative and I for one, LOVE HER!"

Sorry, but "honest" is not one of her virtues.

My advisors, Evan Williams and (whoever makes) Generic Vodka. . .
#22 | Posted by vernon at 2008-09-10 11:22 AM

That explains a lot.
Now, stumble off and get your miscalculator fixed.

Quiet Danni - you're killing James Dean's hard-on.

You are able to see that you asked two questions, yes?

#20 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2008-09-10 11:21 AM | Reply

Yes, and you answered neither.

I know that you've "said for days" that Palin is a "liar and a loon." Apparently, you think that counts for something.

I withdraw my questions.

Gawd, Anton, you're such a drama queen.

Paglia: Palin Best Thing for Feminism Since Madonna

YEAH!

By the response from the WingDings its Obvious they have missed the Irony!

Remember the crucifixion thingy? The Simulated Masturbation? She also called McSame Hitler, and has been the object of numerous boycotts by every fly-by-night religious organization the "right" could throw at her!

The Very Object of their scorn and ridicule is now the Benchmark for one of their own --- and in typical fashion, embrace the very one who they have historically claimed one of "them" ("them" being all those invisible and intangible forces out to destroy America) in their insatiable appetite for authoritarian power!

You cant Write Better Satirical Comedy than what some on the right have offered in all seriousness!

rammed pro-sex, pro-beauty feminism down the throats of the prissy, victim-mongering, philistine feminist establishment.

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damn........can this boy turn a phrase or what???

"Palin was appointed by a man. I'd like to see a woman succeed in national politics on their own."

I thought conservatives hated affirmative action. Making a two-bit bumpkin VP is affirmative action on steroids.

#32 | Posted by nullifidian at

GODdamn it nully........you would have never even heard the NAME HILLARY if it werent for blowjob billy and even through all of the shit from him, she stayed with him for political reasons.......

then I believe that would make you complicit in spreading lies which would make you a.....????????"

....a member of the McCain campaign. They are lying their asses off about Obama's tax plan and just about everything else. John McCain has shown himself to be nothing but a liar and Palin goes right along with it so she is just as bad.

#33 | Posted by danni at 2008

BUT the things that are mentioned most about palin have been proven to be false and the left here KEEPS at it on these issues.
funding for special needs children in alaska this year will be TRIPLED according to factcheck and libs on cnn continue to use that charge much like people here........

and danni........OBAMA HAS NOW CHANGED HIS stance on tax cuts...at least he is backtracking on it depending on the economy....if you were listening to the orielly interview.........so how can mccain lie about his position when he keeps changing it????????

Gawd, Anton, you're such a drama queen.

#38 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2008-09-10 11:40 AM | Reply

You just used the term "Gawd" and refered to me as a "queen."

Self-retorting retort.

"The Very Object of their scorn and ridicule is now the Benchmark for one of their own --- and in typical fashion, embrace the very one who they have historically claimed one of "them" ("them" being all those invisible and intangible forces out to destroy America) in their insatiable appetite for authoritarian power!"

As usual Redneck recognizes what most of us miss.

"she stayed with him for political reasons......."

Oh, like Palin's husband.

danni.......I dont think so. I believe he has a career of his own and has been successfull.
but that was ONE HELL OF A NICE TRY.....

With McCain getting desparate with his distractions, I wonder, at what point, will the Republicans throw out the N-word.

What do you mean when?

"I believe he has a career of his own and has been successfull."

At one time so did Hilary, then she became first lady of Ark just like Palin's husband. Now they say he is going to become Mr. Mom which I somehow doubt after reading a little about the guy. Not saying he's a bad guy, just not a Mr. Mom type of guy.

With McCain getting desparate with his distractions, I wonder, at what point, will the Republicans throw out the N-word.

#45 | Posted by PDAGUY9 at 2008-09-10 11:55 AM | Reply

McCain is desperate? Hell, I imagine he is elated that a number of polls show him leading. I can't believe Obama isn't crushing McCain given the current political environment. If any campaign is feeling the need for desperation moves, it's probably Obama's.

This election is about the economy stupid and all this other stuff is just a distraction from what really matters.

#11 | Posted by danni

No.

All of this 'other stuff' does matter.

The reason it matters is that the economic situation in America isn't as bad as you wish it to be.

When people feel OK economically, they tend to focus their attention on other issues - social, environmental, etc.

I don't pretend that the current economic state is great. That said, it is a far cry from what we had in the '70's or the '30's.

Pagalia said something in her article that we on the right have been saying for years.

"The witch-trial hysteria of the past two incendiary weeks unfortunately reveals a disturbing trend in the Democratic Party, which has worsened over the past decade. Democrats are quick to attack the religiosity of Republicans, but Democratic ideology itself seems to have become a secular substitute religion. Since when did Democrats become so judgmental and intolerant?"

Since the 2004 election cycle we have been saying you people on the left have a nut loose but you just won't listen. Please continue to not listen.

"Since when did Democrats become so judgmental and intolerant?"

I think it occurred right about the time George Bush told us God told him to invade Iraq. Yeah, I think that was when that happened. Now you people have another one who prays to God to build pipe lines and thinks the Iraq war is doing God's will.
Any sane person would fear these lunatics getting their hands on the button.

"I don't pretend that the current economic state is great. That said, it is a far cry from what we had in the '70's or the '30's."

Jeff, I wouldn't claim things are as bad as the '30's but they are easily as bad now as in the '70's. The national debt is way larger, our ability to pay it down is far less. We are heading for bigger trouble than any decade since the '30's right now and this election IS about whether we will still have a middle class in four years.

I think it occurred right about the time George Bush told us God told him to invade Iraq. Yeah, I think that was when that happened. Now you people have another one who prays to God to build pipe lines and thinks the Iraq war is doing God's will.
Any sane person would fear these lunatics getting their hands on the button.

#51 | Posted by danni at 2008-09-10 12:30 PM

Now danni, who won the last two elections....hmmm. Maybe you should start to pray to someone other than lord Obama. We seem to be doing will with our God how about you?

"We seem to be doing will with our God how about you?"

Yes, your party seems to be doing well, too bad about America though.

Party First!

Jeff, I wouldn't claim things are as bad as the '30's but they are easily as bad now as in the '70's.

What???

Unemployment through the roof.
Long lines at the filling stations.
Double-digit inflation.
The creation of the 'misery index'.

Not even close, bud.

How, exactly, is picking a woman as a TOKEN offering to women, based completely on her vagina-carrying credentials, not on her merits, a "good thing" for feminism? The choice of Palin says, "You women are so simple-minded, that I think you'll vote for me just because I chose a woman as a running mate, even tho she's obviously a train wreck".

No different than expecting blacks to vote Obama based totally on race.

If anything, this choice is a kick backwards for women. It's a total insult because she was picked for the WRONG REASONS.

Unfortunately, the choice will WORK for a good majority of the simple-minded who don't realized they're being suckered. The ones who WILL see "female" and choose to ignore her unfitness for the position. These will also be the ones who, when confronted with factual defamatory information about Palin will scream about "keeping women down/in their place" instead of realizing, that we'd actually be more than happy to welcome a female candidate IF SHE IS QUALIFIED.

"Not even close, bud."

Some of that is true, the long lines at gas stations was due to the embargo and didn't last all that long. Homes were not falling by and average of $80,000 in value though and I think that unemployment is worse now but it's hard to determine due to changes in the method of calculation. I worked in the '70's and though yes there was inflation, wages also rose which is not happening now. We also weren't involved in a major war which drained resources and taxes had not been cut so much that cities, counties, states were all laying people off.
Regardless of which decade was worse the country is in great danger right now of actually going bankrupt. We are currently paying over 200 billion dollars just on the interest on the debt........200 billion just in interest! America better wake the hell up and realize John McSame is going to lead us into deep doo doo.

Unemployment through the roof.
Long lines at the filling stations.
Double-digit inflation.
The creation of the 'misery index'.

Not even close, bud.

#55 | Posted by JeffJ at 2008-09-10 12:38 PM

Interesting JJ.

"Unemployment throught the roof."
Avg. unemployment under Clinton - 5.6%
Ave. Unemployment under Bush - 5.0%

"Long lines at the filling stations."
do you remember the Jimmy Carter years? Gas today with the dollar adjusted for inflation is the same price as under Ol Jimmy.

"Double Digit inflation"
What!!! The CPI has hovered around 4% since 1930. The CPI in July was 5.6%

"Creation of the Misery index."
My God, you people are stupid.

The misery index was initiated in the 1970s by a U.S. economist named Robert Barro

Under Carter it was 16.7
Under Clinton it was 7.8
Under Bush it is 8.1

Try living in the real world there JJ it is much less frustrating.

she is a conservative with a vagina and theres the reason behind my support.

#23 | Posted by bushlovertwo

There is no conservatives in the national spotlight. Conservatives would tell the talibaptist to stop fucking up the politics with their whackery.

is no = are no

Mutt,

Gas has tripled, many food staples have doubled, so "economists" back these components out of their inflation calculation. That's where you got your fucking numbers. Everyone except Shrub & Mutt know they're wrong, or else just don't want to admit it.

Unemployment was last reported at 6.1%, but these numbers are another Government lie. In this country, whether you've found a job or not, when your unemployment benefits run out, you're no longer unemployed.

by the way, where's Jeff?

by the way, where's Jeff?

#61 | Posted by nutcase

You talkin' 'bout me?

"by the way, where's Jeff?"

Getting his talking points from the RNC.

Unemployment was last reported at 6.1%, but these numbers are another Government lie.

#61 | Posted by nutcase at 2008-09-10 01:21 PM

You really need to try prozac dude.

unemployment for 2008

Q1 - 4.9%
Q2 - 5.3%
Q3 (2 month) - 5.9
average from 01/00 to through 9/08 - 5.0%

Oh as you said when your unemployment runs out you are no longer unemployeed. Well I hope not. By the time your unemployment runs out if you don't have a job you are one lazy MF because there are plenty of jobs out there with a 94% EMPLOYMENT rate.

Idiot.

Pentecostals like Pain also talk in tongues.

Just what we need. A nutcase talking gibberish in the WH

I tend to agree with the gist of this article. Women have every right to be as boisterously stupid and insane in the public arena as men are...

conservatives must be proud

maybe palin will make a book called sex part 2
continuing what madonna started

In the seventies if you lost your job you remained "unemployed" until you found another, today you are only "unemployed" until your unemployment compensation runs out.
When you had a job in the seventies, it was probably at a factory or in some other decent paying industry....today millions are lucky to find Walmart greeter postions paying a little more than minimum wage.
In the seventies if you owned your own home it kept its value and usually appreciated some every year, as we know in 2007-8 the average homeowner lost $80,000 in equity. $80,000! and you yoyos still support these guys...my God they are laughing at you.

Just what we need. A nutcase talking gibberish in the WH

#65 | Posted by COMMONSENSE

Don't you mean ANOTHER Nutcase talking gibberish?

I don't know about anyone else-but when I think about McLame Negotiating with someone to prevent tragedy-all I can see is him looking desperate and saying-"I was held in a POW camp, ya know"...

"Palin Best Thing for Feminism Since Madonna"

Yeah, look how that turned out. I reiterate, dykes just aren't newsworthy.

And here is another Dem --

S.C. Dem chair: Palin primary qualification is she hasn't had an abortion

South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler sharply attacked Sarah Palin today, saying John McCain had chosen a running mate " whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasnt had an abortion.--

Palin is an opponent of abortion rights and gave birth to her fifth child, Trig, earlier this year after finding out during her pregnancy that the baby had Down syndrome.

Fowler told my colleague Alex Burns in an interview that the selection of an opponent of abortion rights would not boost McCain among many women.

Among Democratic women and even among independent women, I dont think it helped him,-- she said.

Told of McCain's boost in the new ABC/Washington Post among white women following the Palin pick, Fowler said: "Just anecdotally, I believe that those white women are Republican women anyway."

I don't care about Paglia's opinion about Palin, I don't care about Palin. This election is not about Sarah Palin. This election is about the economy stupid and all this other stuff is just a distraction from what really matters.

#11 | Posted by danni

If it's about the economy stupid, then don't vote Obama. The only positive thing that Obama is going to do is to change the color of America.

Palin is hot on the outside which make the average Joe or Mary look at her views. Wow Obama just took a backseat! I say he's the pig!!!!!

Typical comment for about a female for a person of his background.

PIG!

Lipsticks not voting for you!

Look! We're not buying Alpo here, Or dishwashing liquid that you can soak your fingernails in. Or cigarettes.

This is the future of the only nation that is the beacon of liberty and freedom. It can be squandered by electing neocon-marketed sizzle and no steak, or it can be preserved by buying the steak and the team with the intelligence to navigate the shoals and avoid the cheering mobs.

A vote for McCain supports cynicism over knowledge, and sizzle over the steak. How shallow, vicious, and dumb can we be?

Pentecostals like Pain also talk in tongues.

Just what we need. A nutcase talking gibberish in the WH

#65 | Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2008-09-10 03:50 PM

I know what you mean Al Gore nearly drove me nuts.

By the way, Palin goes to a Community Church that is non-denomational, she left the pentecostal church years ago. A lesson that Obama should have learned then the Rev "GD America" Wright wouldn't be an issue.

...It can be squandered by electing neocon-marketed sizzle and no steak, or it can be preserved by buying the steak...

#75 | Posted by townncountry at 2008-09-10 09:40 PM

Okay, that was the first time that a stupid political statement made me hungry.

In the seventies if you lost your job you remained "unemployed" until you found another, today you are only "unemployed" until your unemployment compensation runs out.
When you had a job in the seventies, it was probably at a factory or in some other decent paying industry....today millions are lucky to find Walmart greeter postions paying a little more than minimum wage.
In the seventies if you owned your own home it kept its value and usually appreciated some every year, as we know in 2007-8 the average homeowner lost $80,000 in equity. $80,000! and you yoyos still support these guys...my God they are laughing at you.

#68 | Posted by danni

Buuuuuuttt.. here is a little reality check for you Danni.

My home rose in value by $240,000 (nearly doubled in value) from 2002 when I purchased it through mid 2007 when the market started to really "tank." It is now valued at "only" an $80,000.00 profit over what I paid for it.

For you folks keeping score at home technically my house lost $160,000.00 in value in 2007-2008..... but in REALITY it was a value adjustmnent back to where it SHOULD be.

In other words Danni. Great numbers but they don't tell the whole story.

There is no conservatives in the national spotlight. Conservatives would tell the talibaptist to stop fucking up the politics with their whackery.

#59 | Posted by goblinsrreal2 at 2008-09-10 01:

I was looking forward to a debate until you used the word talibaptist and then it became apparent.
you dont know what the fuck you are talking about.
thanks for trying though. it only cements my faith

Cement would be a good place for your feet.

What's the difference between the KKK and the GOP? Lipstick.

What's the difference between the KKK and the GOP? Lipstick.

#81 | Posted by KnowsTooMuch at 2008-09-11 01:06 PM | Reply

FF

What's the difference between Obama and Palin. Real experience. Go ahead, prove me wrong. I know, I know, he was editor of his school newspaper and organized block parties on his street. What else? 3 books? Theodor Seuss Geisel wrote more than that, and they were much more interesting.

I was looking forward to a debate until you used the word talibaptist and then it became apparent.
you dont know what the fuck you are talking about...

Howsabout instead of the word "Talibaptist" Goblin had used the term "Agents of Intolerance".

Them are John McCain's words.

Prolly safe to borrow them now cos John aint using 'em no more.

On Topic?

Paglia has a ragin' wide-on fer Caribou Barbie?

Sorry, but that's just too funny fer words.

S'rsly.

Be Well.

/Ecce Spud,
stage left.