Zogby: McCain/Palin up by 4 points.

Gallup: McCain/Palin up 48% to 45%.

Whohooo where ole Spudfuck at?

Throwing up the Obama Kool-Aid!

Still too early--nice bounce after the convention.

wait until after the debates..

McPAper tries to tip the scales again...lol

How that Russia started the war thang workin' for you ~ McPaper?:>)

get used to it!

Just proves there is no shortage of racist assholes in this country. They aren't supporting McBush or McTwat, they just are voting against the black guy.

USATODAY: McCain Takes 10 Point Lead Likely Voters

Great News

Just proves there is no shortage of racist assholes in this country.

Everybody take note.

Its not "Diebold" this year.

Its not "wedge issues" this year.

Its not "fear mongering" this year.

Oh no.

Its "racism".

There will come a time, God willing, when the realization that inherent anti-American sentiment, socialist economics and simple Bush hatred are no basis upon which to sustain a political party.

But right now---come November 5th---its "racism".

So pay attention.

"P.S. Sarah Palin sure is hot!"

You need to get out more.

You can't rely on these poll numbers, unless Obama is leading. -The Lefty Zombies for Obama/Biden

Just proves there is no shortage of racist assholes in this country. They aren't supporting McBush or McTwat, they just are voting against the black guy.

#5 | Posted by axe

First of all, you have to quit it with the McTw*t stuff. But you wouldn't be the first Obama supporter accused of misogyny.

Secondly, were you born yesterday or something? did it just occur to you that this is a racist country? If I'm supposed to ask myself who is "electable" when I decide to endorse Nader, don't you think that democrats should be asking that very same thing with respect to Obama?

Until there is a "Racist Voter Exclusion" amendment to the constitution, racists will retain the right to vote and often will vote against "the black guy" just for that reason.

Is that something regrettable about this country? Absolutely. But its a reality that we have to contend with.

The delusion of race-obsessed democrats knows no boundaries. To them, the notion of people simply disagreeing with Obama's ideas is an impossibility. They are so consumed with identifying people and pigeon-holing them into groups that they assume everyone in a likely voter survey is just as racist as they are.

What is delusional. I know a McCain supporter who told me during the primaries that he just didn't think this country was ready for a black man or a woman president. Let's just say; however, he fully supports the Palin pick. I can't figure out that logic, but calling demos and indy's racist seems to work for a lot of people.

Wow, you supposedly know one racist? How does that generalize to the entire demographic of a USATODAY poll?

I didn't say it generalizes anything at all did I, no. I'm just trying to understand how someone can make a comment like that and then fully support their party's pick. That's what I was pointing out.

"I didn't say it generalizes anything at all did I, no."

You asked "what was delusional" in response to my post. My post addressed the earlier comment that this poll "just proves there is no shortage of racist assholes in this country."

I hear ya. I can understand someone having the opinion that our country isn't ready yet, although I vastly disagree. What I don't understand is then doing an about face and saying it's ok. That's what doesn't make sense to me.

Yawn.... I wasn't crowing when BO was up by 8 and I'm not going to whimper when he's down by 4 just after the convention. After you guys wipe the cum off your backs from your partner you'll understand that it just started....

I can understand someone having the opinion that our country isn't ready yet,

#16 | Posted by mdloftroad

I cannot understand that at all. Because someone is a different skin color or sex they will be less of a leader?

When someone says the "country" is not ready for a black or woman president what they are saying is that they are racist and sexist and they beleive that they are superior to them.

Obama got an 8 point bounce after the DNC convention. McCain just made it back up. This is a tempest in a teapot.

"There will come a time, God willing, when the realization that inherent anti-American sentiment, socialist economics and simple Bush hatred are no basis upon which to sustain a political party.

But right now---come November 5th---its "racism".

So pay attention."

Does this Strawman sing "If I Only Had a Brain"?

And it came to pass in the days of Summer that The One began to lose favor with the multitudes when a star arose in the North. There was rending of cloth, annointing with ashes and a terrible gnashing of teeth amongst the disciples when there appeared in a vision, a woman dressed in bear skin, carrying a Remington 7MM magnum, standing over a freshly killed moose. Behold! The arrival of....The Other! And the ascension of The Other over The One has caused hatred, attempts to discredit, false witness, accusations and sins too horrible to mention. All to no avail...The Other shall prevail and the disciples of The One are condemned to another four years in purgatory! Alas...I feel their pain.

And it came to pass in the days of Summer that The One began to lose favor with the multitudes when a star arose in the North. There was rending of cloth, annointing with ashes and a terrible gnashing of teeth amongst the disciples when there appeared in a vision, a woman dressed in bear skin, carrying a Remington 7MM magnum, standing over a freshly killed moose. Behold! The arrival of....The Other! And the ascension of The Other over The One has caused hatred, attempts to discredit, false witness, accusations and sins too horrible to mention. All to no avail...The Other shall prevail and the disciples of The One are condemned to another four years in purgatory! Alas...I feel their pain.

get used to it!
#4 | Posted by nanc at 2008-09-08 01:13 AM

YEAH!

Cause its a H-U-U-U-U-G-E Mandate for the 28%!

Now if only she wasnt giving the same speech over and over again you might get all the whole 30% of walking morons!

Nobody ever went broke by underestimating the intelligence or taste of the American public.
-- PT Barnum (Republican Elected Official)

"I'd suggest studying and internalizing the concept of a "strawman" argument."

Here's one:

"There will come a time, God willing, when the realization that inherent anti-American sentiment, socialist economics and simple Bush hatred are no basis upon which to sustain a political party."

You've assigned a political party an easy to knock down platform because it makes being a unthinking hack easier for you. You do this quite often.

I would suggest you break the habit if being called out on it bothers you.

USATODAY: McCain Takes 10 Point Lead Likely Voters

Great News

#6 | Posted by 51773

lol I bet this was your reaction when Bush won, too.

"Strawman"... you must be referring to the party's previous wonderkind... John "Mr. Exitement" Kerry...

You've assigned a political party an easy to knock down platform

No, Silly.

I've simply re-stated the "position" expressed in post #5, and illustrated its place in the long line left-wing boogeymen used to explain away the intellectual impotence of the democrat party.

That's not a "strawman".

Not even close.

Again, I'd suggest studying and internalizing the concept of a "strawman" argument before mis-identifying one again.

Now run along and enjoy your bigger world you've just been provided. :)

[right now ... its "racism".]

Tell me an American election that wasn't connected to racism in some way. They all have, it's a huge part of American history. Man, get with the program.

"I've simply re-stated the "position" expressed in post #5, and illustrated its place in the long line left-wing boogeymen used to explain away the intellectual impotence of the democrat party."

Axe can only speak for himself, and not very well it seems. By restating his position as belonging to an organization who has never taken that position, you are indeed making a strawman arguement.

"Again, I'd suggest studying and internalizing the concept of a "strawman" argument before mis-identifying one again."

And again, I had to correct you.

Just proves there is no shortage of racist assholes in this country. They aren't supporting McBush or McTwat, they just are voting against the black guy.

#5 | Posted by axe
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Spin baby spin. Maybe someone will believe you....eventually. There are racists in both parties. I'll put money down on that. To say that I'm somehow racists because I'm voting to drill baby drill does not make me a racist. Voting for Obama just because he's black definitely could qualify as being a racist. Because I'm voting for John McCain because John represents more of the issues I'm for is not racist. Give it a rest.

The other thing you lefties attempt to do is call Republicans sexists too. In the left's attempt to go after Sarah, this shows everyone who the real sexists are and who is attempting to break the glass ceiling for women. You guys should probably go to the corner and lick your wounds because the fight isn't over yet.

Lonnie

"What is delusional. I know a McCain supporter who told me during the primaries that he just didn't think this country was ready for a black man or a woman president"

What is delusional is thinking that voting against a black man is automatically racist. Wake up to the face that voting against THIS black man is a smarter choice. There are many black men that would be a better choice. Unfortunately for you they are mostly Republicans. As for women you are wrong there too. Palin is a case and point. Oh, and if she is half as good as she seems, then she will be POTUS in the future.

Voters just realized FLOP EARS IS A BISEXUAL MUSLIM MAXIST...AND THEY DON`T LIKE IT...

USA Today is one the sleaziest right-wing-ding shill rags, and has been for many years now.

I believe it when ALL the votes are counted.

The 'likely voters' piece is what is going to bite the repubs in the ass.....the 'unlikely' are going to show up in droves.

The 'likely voters' piece is what is going to bite the repubs in the ass.....the 'unlikely' are going to show up in droves.

#36 | Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2008-09-08 01:56 PM | Reply

How many times have we heard you retards claim this before? Wasn't the "youth vote" going to be your savior last time?

How about this...How about you STFU until you know what the fuck you're talking about? I'll bet that will be a strange concept for ya.

McCain ahead in the polls?

Media Ad Sellers Nonsense.

101 - you are a Couch Moron.

I wasn't going to vote for Obama whether he was black, white, or green. He is too inexperienced and too liberal. (I guess I am not voting for him because he is too green)

All those racist Democrats that should agree with his ideology sure make the country look bad, I guess.

YEAH!

So tell me, What Books do You All Want Banned in Mccains/Palins First 100 Days?

------Sarah Palin

101 - you are a Couch Moron.

#38 | Posted by DUMPLING1 at 2008-09-08 02:01 PM | Reply

A) I have no idea what a couch moron is
B) Your ilk have claimed that there will be some fantastic turn-out (usually the youth) that will sway the election, yet you are never correct (like all of the october surprises, martial laws, wars with iran, etc...)
C) God thinks you're an abomination...

We shouldn't be celebrating yet like those clowns in the NFL. The dems are going to be mad and desparate and may even go after Palin's family....uh I guess they already are.

We have another quarter to play neocons, so stay tough, cover those receivers, rush the quarterback, and tackle anything coming through the line.

Coach Thom

By restating his position as belonging to an organization who has never taken that position,

Except nobody's "assigned" a position, Sally.

Except for the author of Post #5.

At the risk of sounding repetitive, I'd suggest studying and internalizing the concept of a "strawman" argument before mis-identifying one again.

"So tell me, What Books do You All Want Banned in Mccains/Palins First 100 Days?"

Gasp! Please tell me it won't be "Heather Has Two Mommies." Think of the children and the harm it will cause!

So tell me, What Books do You All Want Banned in Mccains/Palins First 100 Days?

Posted by Redneckville

How about "The joys of the Trailer Park lifestyle" or are you still receiving royalties?

"Except nobody's "assigned" a position, Sally.

Except for the author of Post #5."

Well unless Axe is the "political party" you referenced in post #7, you quite obviously did assign his position to others. And now you are lying about it despite the fact that anyone can read it for themselves.

"At the risk of sounding repetitive, I'd suggest studying and internalizing the concept of a "strawman" argument before mis-identifying one again."

Seeing as how your claim that I don't know what a strawman is seems to be entirely based on the above referenced lie, I am assuming you figured out that I'm right at least 15 minutes ago.

I imagine everyone else caught on sooner.

Please ... no serious person would argue that the polls would be VERY different if Obama were white.

Let's wait for the state by state polls ... or, better yet, let's wait for the election to see who wins.

Remember NEITHER side can win without the "stupid" vote, which is the group swinging back and forth between totally different policy positions and philosophies. In theis county, it is ALWAYS true that stupid people are responsible for whoever wins the presidency.

If by Maxist, you mean overachiever, I concur - they get on my nerves, too.

In theis county, it is ALWAYS true that stupid people are responsible for whoever wins the presidency.

#48 | Posted by midiman at 2008-09-08 02:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

....but, of course if Obama wins it won't have been the stupid people that are responsible. You must be very scared of losing so you are prepping your argument.

In theis county, it is ALWAYS true that stupid people are responsible for whoever wins the presidency.

#48 | Posted by midiman

And it will the brightest turning over cars, pillaging electronic stores etc.

It is also a sure sign that LYING works.

A least temporarily.

"They accuse, besmirch, lie and bear false witness, paying no heed to The One who attempts to stop such behavior as He knows that it condemns them all to the dark corners of political history."

Whereas the McCain/Palin team unashamedly just do their own lying right to the faces of Americans.
Lying about Obama's positions on taxes is one of the most obvious and easily checked but they still continue to do it over and over because they realize the media won't correct them and most voters don't realize just how basicly dishonest they really are.

These pols are too early. They really tell us nothing. If the news organizations spent their time and money on real news, like the candidates real position (voting record, etc) on issues we would have a much better chance of people making an informed decision.

That being said, it is time to just stop all the crapp about anyone who does not vote for Obama being a racist. Most are not voting for him because of his stand on issues, his ties to radicals, etc. It has nothing to do with his race.

They aren't supporting McBush or McTwat, they just are voting against the black guy.

#5 | Posted by axe
* * * *

What--did millions of Americans just realize that Barack Obama is black?

That being said, it is time to just stop all the crapp about anyone who does not vote for Obama being a racist. Most are not voting for him because of his stand on issues, his ties to radicals, etc. It has nothing to do with his race.

#54 | Posted by sawdust

Radical ties like Palin's church? LOL

My father's a die hard repub. Pro-Choice (big doner)hated Bush, thinks McCain is to old (same age as my father) and will not vote for BO BECAUSE is is black. How many others like him are out there....

is=he

These pols are too early. They really tell us nothing. If the news organizations spent their time and money on real news, like the candidates real position (voting record, etc) on issues we would have a much better chance of people making an informed decision.

That being said, it is time to just stop all the crapp about anyone who does not vote for Obama being a racist. Most are not voting for him because of his stand on issues, his ties to radicals, etc. It has nothing to do with his race.

#54 | Posted by sawdust
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I absolutely agree. News organizations shouldn't be choosing candidates they should be reviewing how each candidate has voted in the past. Instead we have what we have right now.

I also agree with you about the left saying Republicans are racists. I don't remember who it was but they reported on one of Obama's voting positions on the dealth penalty for gang related violence and Obama was against it. Well I remember Chris Matthew attempt to say that critizing Obama's vote was racist. It goes to show what lengths the lefties will go to attempt to prove us racists.

Lonnie

"
These pols are too early. They really tell us nothing. If the news organizations spent their time and money on real news, like the candidates real position (voting record, etc) on issues we would have a much better chance of people making an informed decision.

That being said, it is time to just stop all the crapp about anyone who does not vote for Obama being a racist. Most are not voting for him because of his stand on issues, his ties to radicals, etc. It has nothing to do with his race."

Although I do think there is a small number of those who will not vote for Obama because of race who would otherwise vote Democrat (I know them personally) otherwise I agree with 100% of your post.
I honestly think that if the media would report about issues and force candidates to talk about issues and call them on the dishonest claims they make, and give real, honest, complete reporting I could accept whatever outcome occurs in the election. I don't think that is possible when you consider that over 1000 radio stations daily broadcast Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. vs. around 60 broadcasting the opposition view point. It is not an accident that Republicans have been so successful since deregulation of the broadcast media and the elimination of the Fairness Doctrine. As our economy clearly demonstrates it is also not because the conservative ideas have been so successful though millions will still listen and believe the nonsense they are told.

Your father sounds like a smart man, what happened to you...

OH SNAP!

9/20/08 the Sabres start camp. I imagine it's the same for the Hawks. You said you got your tickets for the Ice Bowl right? I believe I told you to take some digital photos so you can matte them and sell the whole thing via E-Bay. People were spending a pretty penny here for stuff like that because the NHL didn't distribute anything like it.

101 FF. He was a shitty father, but overall nice guy. I have 10 Blackhawk games this year to go to. I might have to start pulling for them... Noon Jan 1st man o fucking man. Wrigglyvile is a party town. Thank god I live by the "el" train;-)

I honestly think that if the media would report about issues and force candidates to talk about issues and call them on the dishonest claims they make, and give real, honest, complete reporting I could accept whatever outcome occurs in the election. I don't think that is possible when you consider that over 1000 radio stations daily broadcast Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. vs. around 60 broadcasting the opposition view point. It is not an accident that Republicans have been so successful since deregulation of the broadcast media and the elimination of the Fairness Doctrine. As our economy clearly demonstrates it is also not because the conservative ideas have been so successful though millions will still listen and believe the nonsense they are told.
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I agreed up to this point. The fairness doctrine was unconstitutional to begin with. Your telling radio stations what they can say and what they can't so in a way it's government censorship/propaganda. What liberals should be asking yourselves is why they can't have successful liberal syndicated radio programs. Also when you look at all of the liberal tv news organizations, you have an unfair advantage in tv programming. So if you are willing to lose the tv advantage, I'm willing to lose the radio advantage. Your side won't do it because they enjoy having the tv advantage. You have ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, Bloombert news, etc., we have foxnews.

As for the 1000 syndicated Conservative shows, I'm not quite sure where you got your number, but it seems a little high to me. I can only name a handful of successful conservative hosts.

Lonnie

As for the 1000 syndicated Conservative shows,
#62 | Posted by lwalk17

She said the shows are syndicated on over 1000 stations, not that there were 1000 different shows.

I don't think she's far from the mark.

"What liberals should be asking yourselves is why they can't have successful liberal syndicated radio programs."

Take Pittsburgh for example. There was a successfully running kprogressive station, conservative business men bought it and turned it to a different format. Same in Atlanta. Ownership has priveleges. I don't think the Fairness Doctrine is unconstitutional considering that the radio airwaves belong to the American people not the station owners. However, put that aside, how about just breaking up the huge monopoly ownership of stations allowed by deregulation. Diversity of ownership would probably bring more fair political view points. I can remember when the air waves were not owned and operated by a few conservative corporations and we had much better government in those days. TAke a look at your economy and realize it is a direct consequence of right wing talk convincing people that what is good for huge corporations is good for them.

Take Olberman and Matthews. Ratings in the tank, they get tanked. On a left leaning station no less. You are a fool Danni to think that anyone, Rush, O'Reilly, Hannity would be on the air if they did not get ratings. How many damn times has the failure of Air UnAmerica been pointed out? Libs don't listen to talk radio as much as the right do. Therefore = more conservative talk shows = more advertising income = higher profits.

You want balanced radio - listen to Public radio - wait a minute, bad example. You want left leaning radio, listen to public radio like NPR.

Well unless Axe is the "political party" you referenced in post #7

The political party referenced in post #7 wasn't being assigned a position. And even it was, it wasn't a false or distorted position.

Seeing as how your claim that I don't know what a strawman is seems to be entirely based on the above referenced lie

No, my claim that you don't know what a strawman argument is is based on your inability to properly identify a strawman argument.

I'd suggest learning the definition and its applicability. That way, you're not exhibiting your ignorance by pulling concepts out of your ass and trying to assign them incorrectly which, incidentally, is kinda like a "strawman argument".

Hmmm ... I just checked the gallup website, and they are reporting 5%, with no mention of the 10% that I could see.

Anyone have ANY clue how they determinge "likely voter" in this day and age, and are they reaching cell phone voters?

Danni,

What about the TV airwaves, they should belong to the public too.

I doubt that the economy is bad because of talk radio. Look Democrats try to lay the blame for the high gas on prospectors. However, look what happened when the executive order was rescinded. The price went down. Prospectors look at the future to set the price on a commodity. Therefore, if we have an executive ban on drilling, there is no future therefore the price goes up. To say that gas wouldn't drop, was dishonest. Gas is literally the backbone of our economy. The price of everything you purchase has interfaced with gas. They have to ship this stuff around the country. The price of gas goes up the price of your goods go up to match with the gas price. Businesses that attempted to keep the price the same, layed off workers to keep the price where it was.

The Washington Democrats don't want to fix the gas problem. Their solutions won't help you or me. If the economy is the biggest problem right now then it is crucial to drill. Our economy is oil based. If you don't see that then your kidding yourself. If Speaker Pelosie is so serious about fixing the problem, she'd have done it right after her election. Instead she still hasn't done anything to fix the problem. Drilling is not the only answer to fix the problem however, we need to do multiple things to fix the problem. However, sitting around talking down drilling won't fix anything but allow the same old same old to continue.

Lonnie

"You are a fool Danni to think that anyone, Rush, O'Reilly, Hannity would be on the air if they did not get ratings."

Oh they would probably be on the air but they wouldn't completely control so much of talk radio.
Right here in S. Florida Rush got his ass kicked for years and years by a progressive GAY talker.
Ownership puts on what they want to further their own interests, believing otherwise just makes you look either naive or uninformed.

Nobody ever went broke by underestimating the intelligence or taste of the American public.
-- PT Barnum (Republican Elected Official)
posted by TFDNihilist

Actually that's a quote from Henry Louis Mencken. I'm not sure what political party he was affiliated with (if any), either way the quote is still pretty spot on.

"The political party referenced in post #7 wasn't being assigned a position. And even it was, it wasn't a false or distorted position."

Way to take a stand: "I didn't do it. But even if I did, I was right anyway."

You quite clearly assigned Axe's position to an entire political party and you quite clearly lied about it later. And now you are hedging by saying that you were right to do so anyway. You gonna blame someone else next time as well?

"No, my claim that you don't know what a strawman argument is is based on your inability to properly identify a strawman argument"

Except I quite clearly have. Your inability to admit when you are wrong when it has been clearly demonstrated to you that you are doesn't make you right. It just makes you a jackass.

Here's some advice for you: When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

"If the economy is the biggest problem right now then it is crucial to drill."

Won't help the economy, won't even add additional oil to world markets for approx. ten years and even then an insignificant amount.
We need to replace oil with alternative energy sources, we need to undertake a huge program like we had to build war materials for WWII. Either the War on Terror is real or it isn't. If it is then getting off ME oil should be America's priority #1.
The building of that infrastructure would completely rejuvenate our economy, wages would rise, corporations would profit, America would return to greatness.
Right wing hack radio is just a tool used by status quo profiteers to talk us out of doing what we need to do. So far they have succeeded since Jimmy Carter spelled it out for us, too bad we let them continue all this time. Just think how America would be right not if we hadn't.

Nice link there Just #44

We shouldn't be celebrating yet like those clowns in the NFL. The dems are going to be mad and desparate and may even go after Palin's family....uh I guess they already are.

We have another quarter to play neocons, so stay tough, cover those receivers, rush the quarterback, and tackle anything coming through the line.

Coach Thom
posted by FWTHOM

Side note: When you're a total skank, and your family is the opposite of what you're preaching to the country...well you've opened that door yourself. Get over it.

Damnit, damnit, damnit....someone put those left wingers on the radio so we can have all of our problems fixed. Plus, bring back Jimmy Carter too! We need to at least get back to the rates of unemployment, inflation and interest rates that we enjoyed during the Carter years. Things could be Carter loverly very soon! Betcha' all can't wait.

RIDE ON was Carter right or wrong about ME oil????

Did he trade arms for hostages Rideon????

Did he conduct an illegal war in Nicaragua???

95% of blacks voting for obama and not mccain because he's white, yes racism is alive in america.

So far they have succeeded since Jimmy Carter spelled it out for us, too bad we let them continue all this time. Just think how America would be right not if we hadn't.
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I was alive during Jimmy Carter's embarrassing white house term. He created long lines at the gas pumps trying to take over the gas and oil companies. It did not work therefore when the next president came in, he had to fix things.

See Danni, you can't forget the party's talking point lies. When the executive order that banned drilling was rescinded prices went down. Just the announcement of oil being drilled will bring those prices down more. If the future of the commodity looks plentiful the price goes down. When you lock down that commodity (Like leftists environmentalists want us to do) the prices goes up. The ECONOMY will never get better as long was we continue to rely on foreign oil. Your obviously fine with paying 800 Billion dollars a year to Saudi instead of giving it to companies in the US. I'd prefer to pay that money to US companies and have the taxes from such sales go to the US government while I'm paying a lower price for gas at the pump.

Lonnie

How many states did Obama win in the primaries?
How many states did McCain win in the primaries?

Polls measure the people who answer the phone and want to take a survey.

Polls don't measure the number of registered voters.

Which party had more new voters?

How many ballots were cast between the two parties (taking into account some of those voters were Limbaugh players)?

Numbers don't mean squat, except on election day - but it helps to have your party members registered to vote.

Who would you vote for, McCain or Palin? From listening to McCain, you'd think he was campaigning for her Presidency, not VP.

Way to take a stand: "I didn't do it. But even if I did, I was right anyway."

That's pretty much the gist of it.

You quite clearly assigned Axe's position to an entire political party

And you've "quite clearly" pulled that characterization from your ass. Axe's position was not assigned to an entire political party.

And now you are hedging by saying that you were right to do so anyway.

That's just the second tier demonstrating your inability to correctly identify a "strawman" argument.

Not only is there no position being assigned to anyone other than Axe, the position being assigned isn't in any way distorted or untrue.

So essentially, you got got talking out your ass---throwing around concepts that don't quite apply, but are a lot of fun to use in lieu of anything substanative to say.

Here's your homework:

"He created long lines at the gas pumps trying to take over the gas and oil companies."

The oil embargo created the gas lines, I had to live through it too. We bought gas on odd or even days. Blaming Carter for that is ridiculous.
Inflation during Carter's presidency was a result of the Nixon administrations Vietnam War. Inflation virtually always follows wars....er....just like now.

"Your obviously fine with paying 800 Billion dollars a year to Saudi instead of giving it to companies in the US. I'd prefer to pay that money to US companies and have the taxes from such sales go to the US government while I'm paying a lower price for gas at the pump."

"Just the announcement of oil being drilled will bring those prices down more. If the future of the commodity looks plentiful the price goes down."

Bull shit, demand dropped very significantly. So much so that the Highway Trust Fund is running out of money due to the reduction in sales of gasoline.

You are just a typical talking point repeater, you know virtually nothing yet still voice idiotic opinions. This country would be so much better of if you and millions like you would start getting your information from anywhere except right wing talkers.

Danni would pick the lib show because that is her interest.

Damn the employees and their jobs.

Bull shit, demand dropped very significantly. So much so that the Highway Trust Fund is running out of money due to the reduction in sales of gasoline.

You are just a typical talking point repeater, you know virtually nothing yet still voice idiotic opinions. This country would be so much better of if you and millions like you would start getting your information from anywhere except right wing talkers.

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Your damned right gas demand dropped at 4.00 a gallon. I use my gas to drive to work, pay bills, and I don't travel anywhere at 4.00 a gallon. Of course demand has dropped. I don't even drive across town to visit friends because it isn't worth spending 8 dollars to do when I can send them email but your arguments are dishonest at the very least. Yeah, of course, I'm republican and therefore I MUST listen to Rush daily. I've never stood up for any talk radio host partially because I don't even listen to the radio anymore or tv for that matter. I did hear a couple of T-Boone pickens commercials but rarely watch tv...I have one at work which I don't listen to but hear glancing things as I walk around and reset tables and chairs, put up pool balls, pool sticks, and racks throughout my shift.

My dad worked in the oil business for all of his life. We've had many conversation on how the business worked.

Obviously your brainwashed to believe that EVERY Republican listens to talk radio. All of my music is on a portable hard drive in the form of MP3's because they just don't make good music anymore so I don't even listen to the radio. I'm more than capable of thinking for myself. I've been doing so for 44 years and will probably continue to think for myself until the day that I die. I wouldn't necessarily think you listen to anything to make your decisions...your voting for Obama.

Lonnie

Let's say you own/manage a station and there's the chance to pick from Limbaugh or some lib talk show. You are responsible for paying the salary of your employees... monies which come from ad revenues. Which talk show do you air?

#84 | Posted by OohRah
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LMFAO OoRah, don't confuse Danni with facts and reality that aren't verifiable through the Obama website.

Lonnie

It's just a poll -- How many people with half a brain would vote for the Cheney & Limbaugh/Kristol ticket flying the GOP banner this year???

I doubt that Chuck Hagel will vote for the Neocon team nominated in St. Paul last week! (BO -- time to add Chuck to your "kitchen cabinet" and to win Chuck to your team.)

I doubt that the patron of conservatism, Barry Goldwater would have approved of this militaristic, stuborn, insensitive theocon/neocon combination.

I even doubt that the "old John McCain" would have voted for the type of ticket that he and Limbaugh's "babe" represent!

"Axe's position was not assigned to an entire political party."

Except in post #7 where everyone can read where you did exactly that. Why do you keep lying?

"So essentially, you got got talking out your ass---throwing around concepts that don't quite apply, but are a lot of fun to use in lieu of anything substanative to say."

Something did come out of my ass and its that substance on your head.

Here's your homework:

Wash up.

And Gore got more votes than Bush......

See you at the Electorial Count!!!

Manypaths,

Obviously the supreme court did not see it your way. It was George W that sat in the white house while Al Gore started his global warming scam to get even with voters and get rich at the same time. So now that the earth is cooling, we still have Al Gore still trying to swear we're getting hotter even when the evidence is presented about global cooling.

Honestly I don't look forward to the elections because I know that the election will not be a landslide. Instead it will be so close you could probably stretch a pubic hair to measure the results no matter who wins/loses. When the race is that close, we'll have to listen to the losers whine about how close it was and how it was not fair. Sort of like when John Kerry and Al Gore lost. We had to listen to most of the lefties whine, cry, and throw tantrums over their loss.

If your honest with yourself, you'll at least admit it will be a close election.

Lonnie

Lonnie,

First, it is an established fact that Gore beat Bush in the national popular vote by over a half million votes.

I'll add you to the list of Dumbfucks.

Manypaths,

Any way you cut it, Al Gore LOST! I'll add you to my list of dumbfucks that are living in a fantasy world because they can't accept reality and move on.

Lonnie

Dude,

Ok. I will spell it out to you.

Yes, Gore won more votes and lost the election. What matters is the electorial count.

Hence my post. "See you at the electorial count"

Got it yet, slow one?

As much as I hate to admit it, and this is my thread, MP is correct. These are national polls. The electoral college is what matters - not the national popular vote. However, according to RCP, the number of swing states is rising - in favor of McCain/Palin - see MI, CO, PA, NH, NV and NM. Prior to the convention they were shaded light blue. OH, FL and NC were shaded light red.

I'm not so sure about me being slow, your the one I just had to remind that Al Gore LOST .

You seem to be very confident Obama will take the election. Truth, this election can and probably will go both ways leading up to November. You can't find odds on the presidential election in vegas because it's too far out to judge. This election had way too many factors that previous elections never had to mix up the vote. You can't count on the Hillary supporter vote that was tainted by Operation Chaos. You can't count on her voters because there are a lot of Hillary supporters that would vote McCain because they didn't like how Hillary was treated. You can't count on New registered Democrats because some of those guys were part of Operation Chaos. You have absolutely nothing reputable to measure success with right now other than polls. Polls aren't very reliable 60 days out from election time. This must be driving you guys mad. Sorry I can't relate.

Lonnie

Exactly.

Who cares if the entire state of Alabama is now for McCain?

The Palin selection solidified the Bible Belt for him.

He just now has more support where he didn't really need it, aside from MO.

NC could still come into play for Obama.

I'm not so sure about me being slow, your the one I just had to remind that Al Gore LOST .

Lonnie,

Your comprehension skills suck.

(sorry)

That means, that you don't understand what people are saying when others clearly do.

Exactly.

Who cares if the entire state of Alabama is now for McCain?

The Palin selection solidified the Bible Belt for him.

He just now has more support where he didn't really need it, aside from MO.

NC could still come into play for Obama.

#97 | Posted by Manypaths
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Spoken like a true liberal talking Democrat talking points. You seem to just write off southern states because we cling to our guns and religion. How many Obama voters from early voting states have decided to jump off the happy ship Obama because of the Reverend Wright Issue? We really won't know the answer until November but don't let me stop you from crowing about how badly Obama will beat McCain and celebrating the victory before all of the votes are counted.

Lonnie

Sure and that must speak highly of your in-ability to get your point across too.

Lonnie

As much as I hate to admit it, and this is my thread, MP is correct. These are national polls. The electoral college is what matters - not the national popular vote. However, according to RCP, the number of swing states is rising - in favor of McCain/Palin - see MI, CO, PA, NH, NV and NM. Prior to the convention they were shaded light blue. OH, FL and NC were shaded light red.

#95 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

I must excuse myself from this now. Others will understand.

It doesn't say who the people polled were except that they were likely/registered voters.

Therefore we have to assume it's a national poll, if it isn't then it's even more bullshit than I thought.

So 1,044 people polled divided by 51, including DC works out to 21 people per state. Our politics is so polarized that the state and its number of electoral votes matters much, much more than anything else, so this poll is bullshit.

Taking it on a state/electoral college basis, here's how things breaks down:

Obama

210
033
026
---
269

McCain

156
025
045
---
226

Figures mean respectively:

No way they could lose.
Something very strange would have to happen for them to lose.
Probable wins.

Leaving 4 toss-up states with 42 votes:
20 Ohio
13 Virginia
05 Nevada
04 New Hampshire

McCain would have to win all of these to tie. Obama currently leads in all of them.

I could give the breakdown of these figures but anybody can see them at:

I've just noticed that my math is out by 1 vote. Big deal.

Manypaths,

In true angry liberal fashion when someone disagrees with you, you have to stoop to personal attacks. Yeah that's the way to win them over.

Have a nice day!

Lonnie

2008 map will look like the 2004 map, with a extra Red state (PA)

2008 map will look like the 2004 map, with a extra Red state (PA)

#106 | Posted by CLINTONISKING

Don't bet in regards to Wisconsin.

Lets me guess this straight, you Rethuglican morons. Nobody opposing Obama could possibly be racist, but we're all sexists for calling out PaleIn for her complete lack of qualification and education, her lying about having opposed earmarks and the bridge, for saying that the war in Iraq was commanded by God, for attending a church where they speaking in fucking tongues, for going 42 years of her life without once traveling overseas, for hiding from doing any serious interview where she might have to ANSWER A QUESTION, for being an outrageous choice for VP... Yeah - anyone bringing up those trifles is a sexist.

Let's say you own/manage a station and there's the chance to pick from Limbaugh or some lib talk show. You are responsible for paying the salary of your employees... monies which come from ad revenues. Which talk show do you air?

#84 | Posted by OohRah at 2008-09-08 04:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

..I went with the left-leaning, actually.

However, I also just went off the air because the station was running too much red ink that I had to pay for out of my own pocket. I'm not a wealthy man, and it seems unless it's a rap station along with the left-leaning programming, it just can't get donations or ad revenue.

Anecdotal, I know.. but Oohrah is correct. Liberal programming just can't compete. It's like the left wants to hear it, but not support it financially.

AXE:
"Just proves there is no shortage of racist assholes in this country. They aren't supporting McBush or McTwat, they just are voting against the black guy."

Is it a problem in your eyes if people support and vote for Obama BECAUSE he is black? Realizing the dream for America, a la Oprah? Will Smith, close friend and supporter of the Clinton's for many years, but stumping for Barak now?

The U.S. is a Racist Country. Obama has his work cut out for him.

Just proves there is no shortage of racist assholes in this country. They aren't supporting McBush or McTwat, they just are voting against the black guy.

#5 | Posted by axe

that is exactly what I hear as the white fly on the wall..fucking utterly amazing..

These dumbasses would rather vote in ANOTHER senial bush republican that graduated almost dead last in his class and a university of Idaho grad in journalism?? Over a Harvard grad first in his class and a vp that went to syracuse law school.

It looks like the dumbfucks want to elect another moron/moronette that they want to go shootin' with and drink a beer with..

you shit for brains had your chance and blew it. You dont get a do over for electing a fuckup.

another four years will send this country over the edge.

"It looks like the dumbfucks want to elect another moron/moronette that they want to go shootin' with and drink a beer with.."

That's exactly right, Legio. The election will be decided by dumbshits who make up their mind on such moronic things like that.

obama, the media chosen one, won't win the general election. in his own words, he wants to disarm the US.
www.youtube.com/watch?
v=dl32Y7wDVDs

I know a McCain supporter who told me during the primaries that he just didn't think this country was ready for a black man or a woman president.

#12 | Posted by mdloftroad at 2008-09-08 11:22 AM | Reply

Most of the "not ready for a black president" comments I hear come from Lefties.

Most.

It's either inherent hatred for America to assume this, or it's a cynical attempt to build up your excuses when Osama loses.

Then you can once again put on the mantle of victimhood.

The election will be decided by dumbshits who make up their mind on such moronic things...

No, Billy.

The election will be decided by the American people who have enough of a stake in the election to go to the polls and vote.

Those are the people who get up every morning, go to work, run businesses, raise families, go to church, coach little league, go back to bed, and get up the next morning to do it all over again.

They're Americans.

They're not anti-social psychotics who go out of their way to post excerpts of the MySpace page of the 18 year old boyfriend of the daughter of the Republican candidate for VPOTUS.

They're not "Community Organizers"---and could give two pinches of monkey shit what a "community organizer" does.

They have 401ks, and don't give a flying fuck about the class-based world-view offered by some naive, dumbass Chicago politician that's never earned an honest dollar in his life.

In other words, they're me.

Admittedly, I'm not overly-impressed with the Republican performance over the last 8 years, but I'm not about to use that as an excuse to help transfer power over to an empty-suit, political neophyte whose judgement about the country he seeks to lead has been formed solely by the radical, Marxist (and criminal) elements of the Chicago political machine.

Obama Hussein is a fucking creature to the people who actually make things happen in America.

He is a media-fabricated symbol---and an example of what can happen if you fail to pay attention to the political process.

Most normal, well-adjusted American people were simply looking for a reason not to vote for a crypto-Communist named Barack Hussein Obama.

Most normal, well-adjusted American people were simply looking for a reason to vote for McCain.

They've found it in Sarah Palin.

The election will be decided by dumbshits who make up their mind on such moronic things...

People like you are the "dumbshits", Bill.

I promise.

And until you begin to triangulate reality, accept it, and adjust accordingly, you're going to exist in a state of perpetual anger.

Class-warfare doesn't work, because the Workers are investors.

Race-warfare doesn't work because the coloreds are running for president.

Culture-warfare doesn't work because your understanding of the real America is provided to you in sound-bytes carefully edited by people as ignorant of the American Experience as you.

I hope you can figure something out, Bill.

Because given the performance of the Bush Administration and the Republican Party over the past 8 years, there's no excuse for trailing in the polls.

"Most normal, well-adjusted American people were simply looking for a reason not to vote for a crypto-Communist named Barack Hussein Obama."

Most normal people aren't reactionary, psychotic, crypto-fascist John Birch types that have paranoid fantasies that a mainstream centrist like Barack Obama is a Communist. Fucking nutcase.

www.aim.org
sweet

a mainstream centrist like Barack Obama is a Communist. Fucking nutcase.

#118 | Posted by nullifidian

Centrist?

He's tied with Biden as the 10th most liberal senator in the Senate.

That ain't centrist.

"He's tied with Biden as the 10th most liberal senator in the Senate."

Was that before or after a rightwing publication labeled him the "most liberal" member of the Senate.

I just hate it when your guys can't keep their talking points straight.

At least he's not one of Bush's buttboys or buttgirls.

Doc,

I just hate it when your guys can't keep their talking points straight.

It's not a "talking point", dipshit.

More than one study exists that tracks and ranks senators based upon their votes.

1 study has Obama as most liberal for 2007. However, that particular study had some flaws.

A much more respected study (you can click my user profile and find its name and a link to it) has Obama tied with Biden for 10th.

I choose to cite the most universally-respected study of this nature that I could find.

He's tied with Biden as the 10th most liberal senator in the Senate.

That ain't centrist.

Too funny.

Again I ask, who made up what the meaning of liberal and who is being the judge of who is the most liberal.

Why would anyone, anyone with a reasonable intellect listen to such hackery with a founding of validity.

Is there such a list out about who is the most conservative?

"It's not a "talking point", dipshit."

Little cranky this morning, are we, Jeffrey?

Please, don't be ridiculous, of course it's a talking point.

"A much more respected study (you can click my user profile and find its name and a link to it) has Obama tied with Biden for 10th."

Well, I click on your name but don't find it. Please, edify me.

Because given the performance of the Bush Administration and the Republican Party over the past 8 years, there's no excuse for trailing in the polls.

This is an absolute fucking fact.

No matter how it is said these democrat supporters just don't understand how lazy and off the mark the democratic party remains.

As the party gets closer and closer to the election the more and more the party and its message gets lost. Why? Because the party doesn't stand for anything, unless trying not to lose is taking a stand.

He's tied with Biden as the 10th most liberal senator in the Senate.

That ain't centrist.

#122 | Posted by JeffJ at 2008-09-09 06:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

And he's a right winger compared to the lefties of Europe and most of the rest of the world. What's your point?

Palin and W are off the charts to the right. And that's just in the US...

Because the party doesn't stand for anything,

It has ideas, it just does not defend them.(or stand up, I suppose)

Compare Obama and McCain's speeches and the difference becomes very clear.

Only one problem. The dems cower, as you rightly pointed out.

Doc,

8-14 1:20 PM on this thread:

Obama is not a centrist in American politics???

Now you need to stop reading those comparison talking points.

I obama was running on the republican ticket you would be voting for him long before your blinded republican honorship.

Given his platform and his politics, there is no way I'd vote for Obama, regardless of which party he belonged to.

Obama is not a centrist in American politics???

That is correct - he's not a centrist.

Name for me 1 issue that he comes down right of center.

Gotta go.

I'll check back later in eager anticipation of your erudite explanation as to how Obama qualifies for the Centrist label.

I don't give a shit about the rest of the world.

Which is part of the problem.

A much more respected study (you can click my user profile and find its name and a link to it) has Obama tied with Biden for 10th.
#124 | Posted by JeffJ at 2008-09-09 06:39 AM

Doc, 8-14 1:20 PM on this thread:www.drudge.com
#130 | Posted by JeffJ at 2008-09-09 07:06 AM

Name for me 1 issue that he comes down right of center.

#133 | Posted by JeffJ at 2008-09-09 07:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

He's against gay marriage and for civil unions, on religious grounds.

What do I win?

Don't know what happened to the rest of the post. Anyway. . .

You could've just cited the damn information. I certainly wasn't going to wade through more than 20 days' worth of your posts to find it.

But now that I've found it, so what? They list all of the Senate Dems as 1-51 and all of the GOP afterwards. What's the meaning of "conservative"? What's the meaning of "liberal"? What's your point?

Obama believes that trade with foreign nations should strengthen the American economy and create more American jobs. He will stand firm against agreements that undermine our economic security.

Fight for Fair Trade: Obama will fight for a trade policy that opens up foreign markets to support good American jobs. He will use trade agreements to spread good labor and environmental standards around the world and stand firm against agreements like the Central American Free Trade Agreement that fail to live up to those important benchmarks. Obama will also pressure the World Trade Organization to enforce trade agreements and stop countries from continuing unfair government subsidies to foreign exporters and nontariff barriers on U.S. exports.

If this isn't centrist I don't know what is. Oops, let's see.

Lower Barriers to Trade
John McCain believes that globalization is an opportunity for American workers today and in the future. Ninety-five percent of the world's customers lie outside our borders, and we need to be at the table when the rules for access to those markets are written. To do so, the U.S. should engage in multilateral, regional and bilateral efforts to reduce barriers to trade, level the global playing field and build effective enforcement of global trading rules.

Now this is really centrist and looking out for Americans.

LOL

Shouldn't you poll watchers be paying more attention to the electoral college map?

I don't see any lead for McCain.

CNN's map shows Obama up by 54 (243 to 189) which includes states leaning to either candidate.

Electoral-vote shows Obama already over the mark with 281-230 with seven new polls conducted Sept. 5-7.

Florida with 27 electoral votes just went to a tie. This is significant in a state that's traditionally red.

All of the computer models I look at predict that Obama is the likely winner.

I just don't see anything going toward McCain except the daily tracking and that doesn't mean a great deal.

CNN's map shows Obama up by 54 (243 to 189) which includes states leaning to either candidate.

Electoral-vote shows Obama already over the mark with 281-230 with seven new polls conducted Sept. 5-7.

Florida with 27 electoral votes just went to a tie. This is significant in a state that's traditionally red.

#140 | Posted by Twinpac

I saw that this morning as well.

The fact of the matter is, we won't be able to get an accurate representation of how close the race is before the debates, and we sure as hell won't get it by looking at the popular vote. Unless I'm mistaken, Bush lost the popular vote in 2000.

The problem is with these independent voters.

We all know the conservatives will vote McCain no matter what. We all know that libs will vote Obama no matter what.

It's the indy voters that are wishy-washy. We have this sense that indy voters take the time to think about things, carefully evaluate positions, listen to reasoned arguments, etc..

I don't this this is the case. I think that these folks are swayed by popularity. In this contest, I feel these people don't care one way or the other who gets elected. It's just who will scream the loudest, have the best commercials, have the best one-line zinger, and so on.

All is not lost Democrats. Obama leads McCain 3 to 1 among necrophiliacs.

"So tell me, What Books do You All Want Banned in Mccains/Palins First 100 Days?"

AWWWW yes the book ban issue.. what a load of shit.. here are the FACTS on the "book Ban".
She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a "What if?" question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin's first term.

"AWWWW yes the book ban issue"

I'm not a Palin fan, but whenever my fellow lefties brought up this subject I set them straight on their versions being greatly exaggerated. I hope my rightie friends do the same. I'm a librarian myself and know the value of looking things up.

All is not lost Democrats. Obama leads McCain 3 to 1 among necrophiliacs.

Do you have anything useful to add to a thread, ever?

All is not lost Democrats. Obama leads McCain 3 to 1 among necrophiliacs.

#143 | Posted by FreddyK

Let me guess...you're the one who'd vote for McCain, but your 3 grave-digging friends are solidly in the Obama camp?

World wants Obama as president: poll

World wants Obama as president: poll

Great! They can have him!

Let me guess...you're the one who'd vote for McCain, but your 3 grave-digging friends are solidly in the Obama camp?

Hay! Not all grave diggers are necrophiliacs.

Some of us are in it for the money.

"Let me guess...you're the one who'd vote for McCain, but your 3 grave-digging friends are solidly in the Obama camp?"

Posted by Sarcasmo

No, all of the necrophiliacs I know are liberal dems but even some of them will vote for McCain/Palin.

In the end I think Obama will do better than McGovern but worse than Dukakis.

Obama's private parts are being cruched by Gov. Palin's size 7 pumps!

The liberals on this site are pathetic. According to the brain dead libs, the only reason Obama's ratings are plummeting like a rock is because of racism. So sad. Maybe its because Obama is a phoney who likes to straddle issues? Maybe because of Obama's association with anti-American radicals? Maybe its because of Obama's racist pastor? Maybe because Obama has no specifics and just spouts empty "change" speeches? Maybe because someone like Palin is actually real, honest and has a firm conservative stances on the issues and makes Obama look like a manufactured phoney liberal toy?

World wants Obama as president: poll

www.abc.net.au

#148 | Posted by kerrin57

Good news. I guess it means they are now capable of defending themselves. Viva La Obama!

How about this...How about you STFU until you know what the fuck you're talking about? I'll bet that will be a strange concept for ya.

#36 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-09-08 01:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

STFU??

Since when is speculation a banned concept on here? It's used EVERYDAY by your candidate and mine.

So everything that FraudBorne says is because he knows it to be true and is never speculating. GOOD TO KNOW!!

It sure sounds like I touched a nerve....itching and bloating? vaginal dryness? Awwwwww....dry those eyes, douchebag.

I wasn't going to vote for Obama whether he was black, white, or green. He is too inexperienced and too liberal. (I guess I am not voting for him because he is too green)

All those racist Democrats that should agree with his ideology sure make the country look bad, I guess.

#38 | Posted by ElmoVanPeebles at 2008-09-08 02:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

....and your fellow kin, posing for the family reunion pic in full Klan garb, is doing wonders for the nations image.

We can do this all day long.

Obama's true colors are coming out as he freaks out about his losing stride. He is making impertinent and foolish attacks while Biden already accepts defeat.

Do you really think that McCain will change, if so what specifically has he ever mentioned changing, I heard him say he would 'shake up Washington' but I did not hear how except to mention getting rid of lobbyists, unlikely since 7 of the top McCain officials in his campaign are lobbyists (this is fact checked by non-partisian group so please feel free to look it up)

The only specifics he gave on his plan match identically to the acceptance speech that Bush gave in 2004. I don't really understand how people can vote for the same party that has been in charge for the past 8 years and did such a poor job.

I majored in Economics and not one of my professors agreed that trickle down economics works, hence why our country is in the situation we are in. Republicans always cut taxes and run high deficits, which may put a little money back in our pockets but it also makes are dollar shit which really put us in a weak position in terms of foreign policy and relations when countries like China buy our debt. I really hope that Americans vote on issues and not on the candidate they like better because are country is really on the wrong track and we can't afford another George W. in office. That's my two cents.

NBC/WSJ, considered the 'gold standard' of polling has Obama ahead of McCain.

The Bounce is gone. The more people get to know about Palin, realize McCain isn't running a campaign on issues, and will continue the highly unpopular policies of George Bush the better for Obama.

Ok- it's not about racism why McCain's leading. It's actually because of the likes like ignorant assholes on this message board that believe another 4 years of Bush politics is really what this country needs. And let's make no mistake about McCain is no more qualified than Obama, but Obama is better than the alternative by a country mile. However, lets make no mistake about the the christian funamentals across this country ARE racist and xenophobic and are too drunk from the Kool aid that its because of this Repub admin. has ruined this country standing on the world public stage (even Britian hates are fucking guts), our financial system and has brainwashed the idiots on this board into thinking "might will always make Right".

With the polls going against him, it's about time for Flop Ears to pull the race card again. Most thought that their were only 52 cards in his racially charged deck, but who would have known that he was dealing from a 6 deck shoe.

Card Counter Thom

latest poll.

Every terrorist in the world, and every Black Liberation Theology member wants:

Barrack Hussien Obama as President.

Kuma

The liberals on this site are pathetic. According to the brain dead libs, the only reason Obama's ratings are plummeting like a rock is because of racism. So sad.

#152 | Posted by utastaff

As one of those "brain dead libs" I have to say that you're right - claiming that Obama has been slipping in some polls recently because of racism is ludicrous and in no way true or accurate. More likely, it's because of McCain's post-RNC bump and the sudden celebrity status of Sarah Palin.

KINGER,

For a lib, your post actually seems reasonable and makes sense. Obama's lead, however is only 273-265 at realclearpolitics.com.

I think the loser of this election should have to do time building houses for Habitat as just punishment. and spent some time with J.Carter and company. Much worse than the Hanoi Hilton.

For a lib, your post actually seems reasonable and makes sense.

Thanks. I think.

Obama's lead, however is only 273-265 at realclearpolitics.com.

Yeah, but that count assumes that McCain/Palin win Ohio and Florida and that Obama wins Michigan. There's no way we can guarantee any of that yet. The count including "toss-up states" is at 217 for Obama vs. 189 for McCain, which is a bit less generous than the CNN one.

I would think that one of Obama's priorities is to have Hillary convince two of her core demographics that make up a large population in Florida (older white women and Hispanics) to vote for Obama. If she can do this for him, Florida's going to be a pretty big factor in the election.

John McCain is an American hero and Sarah Palin is a Conservative Goddess!

FACT!

JAMES DEAN is a FACT machine!!!