For the good of mankind, God set the standard of human relationship: marriage and children in a loving home. THE STABILIZING FACTOR FOR SOCIETY!

But even if there are perfect parents, they cannot guarantee their children growing up right. Adam and Eve had a perfect Father, but they went astray.

Sex is God's idea. He wanted humans to enjoy and utilize it in a responsible manner. But it is prone to misuse and abuse. God understands that too and offers patience and forgiveness.

Imperfect humans. Including Christians. Including Liberals.

Libs will come up with one of their famous social programs to teach young men how to be fathers. It shouldn't cost less than a trillion dollars and they can get feminists to work for free castrating these young men.

"For the good of mankind, God set the standard of human relationship: marriage"

People invented marriage. And God.

Tha family values party gets to take the credit.

In fact, these two conservative social goalsending abortion and upholding the model of the nuclear familywere always in tension. The reason is that, like it or not, the availability of legal abortion actually supports the kind of family structure that conservatives once felt so strongly about: two parents raising children in a stable relationship, without government assistance. By 12th grade, 60 percent of high-school girls are sexually active (or, as Reagan preferred, "promiscuous"). Teen pregnancy rates have been trending downward in recent years but, even so, 7 percent of high-school girls become pregnant every year. And the unfortunate reality is that teenagers who carry their pregnancies to term drastically diminish their chances of living out the conservative, or the American, dream.

Forget the "Juno" scenarioin the real world, few unwed mothers give up their babies for adoption. If you do not allow teenage girls who accidentally become pregnant to have abortions, you are demanding that they either raise their children as single mothers or that they marry in shotgun weddings. By the numbers, neither alternative is promising. Unmarried teenage moms seldom get much financial or emotional support from the fathers of their babies. They tend to drop out of high school, go on the dole and are prone to lives of poverty, frustration and disorder. Only 2 percent of them make it through college by the age of 30. The Bristol Palin option doesn't promote family happiness, stability or traditional structure, either. Of women under 18 who marry, whether because of pregnancy or not, nearly half divorce within 10 years, double the rate for those who wait until they're 25.

Sex is God's idea. He wanted humans to enjoy and utilize it in a responsible manner.

#1 | Posted by takitez at 2008-09-07 11:01 AM

Why just humans? I hope you realize that all mammals petty much enjoy the same kind of sex humans do.

So why does your make believe old man in the sky only want humans to "utilize it in a responsible manner"?

Unmarried teenage moms seldom get much financial or emotional support from the fathers of their babies. They tend to drop out of high school, go on the dole and are prone to lives of poverty, frustration and disorder. Only 2 percent of them make it through college by the age of 30.

Appalling isn't it? As is this...

By 12th grade, 60 percent of high-school girls are sexually active..

If we can't get that number down then the results will continue to be appalling.

So why does your make believe old man in the sky only want humans to "utilize it in a responsible manner"?

What are you questioning Roy? Suggesting that we should "utilize it in a responsible manner" or that someone references God in this?

Do you disagree with the "responsible behavior" point?

That is a bad deal.

Roy, because God gives humans intelligence and reasoning power and hold them accountable for their decisions (when they become adults).

The truth is, marriage is becoming an anachronism.

The ease with which anyone can get a divorce today, has undermined any meaning that marriage had.

If you get married, you are instantly taking on an enormous risk of losing most of your personal wealth. The wealth that you have at the time, and future wealth.

Divorces should be VERY hard to get, but their not, and will probably never be.

Do you disagree with the "responsible behavior" point?

#7 | Posted by eberly at 2008-09-07 11:33 AM

I was taking exception to the divine mandate.

Whether or not humans use sex responsibly, isn't going to change much. Some will, and some won't, it's entirely up to the society to deal with it as needed.

Our society hasn't even begun to deal with it as a problem.

You could say liberalism is the root cause of early sexual activity, or the younger onset of mensturation possibly caused by sprinkling the planet with modern chemicals. Youmight even blame gays, liberals and airplanes for the rapid spread of AIDS around the world.

But early pregnancy is a no brainer. Its the fault of religious fanatics that deny our sexuality as young peoples hormones rage and oppose the teaching of proper birth control.

Is this trend another step towards third world status? An unskilled workforce that exports raw materials and imports finished goods, floundering in unmanagable debt?

"Our society hasn't even begun to deal with it as a problem."

Far from it, our society subsidizes this behavior.

"You could say liberalism is the root cause of early sexual activity, or the younger onset of mensturation possibly caused by sprinkling the planet with modern chemicals. Youmight even blame gays, liberals and airplanes for the rapid spread of AIDS around the world."

Al Gore blames global warming.

Well gays aren't responsible for over population... nor are those boys the ones responsible for the increased numbers of unwed fathers.

The church says masturbation is a sin... so at least the unwed parents weren't sinning.

It is so funny that righty tighty's like to shoot their mouths off about their values. The truth is conservatives have always had children out of wedlock.. they used to send their daughters to visit some obscure family member for 6 months. So not only where they failures as parents according to their own standards... but liars as well... therefore failures before their own God.

Amzing to be lectured about being a failure before God from the godless... EVERY conservative I know admits their not perfect but in the Bible we have a moral foundation that this country is based... what's your's... the Daily Kos?

Overpopulation is straining our planet.

The consequences of overpopulation are catastrophic.

Reversible sterilization at birth is the answer.

When the individual/couple is of legal age (solving the underage issue), passes a:
1. Credit check (showing they can afford the child)
2. A psych test (showing they will not abuse the child)
3. Obtains a license (proving they really want the child)
THEN (and only then) should they be allowed to breed.

It sounds harsh, but people REFUSE to think of the rest of us when they squeeze out their screw-trophies, and burden the rest of us with having to provide for their irresponsible behavior.

By 12th grade, 60 percent of high-school girls are sexually active..

If we can't get that number down then the results will continue to be appalling. -- Eberly

I doubt you can get that number down.

The list of what's been tried includes castigating the girls for being sluts, turning pregnant teens into pariahs, and making abortion safe and legal -- all strategies focusing on the girls.

Maybe it's time to start focusing on the boys.

What kind of crazy fucking mentality is present when you ascribe such a social issue to one political party or the other? Fucking nut-jobs, you are. As if "conservatives" don't have abortions, or children out of wedlock (or divorce...yeah..righ), or liberals don't have faith in God or whatever deity happens to be in vogue this particular century...

And here you are, condemning the "liberals" for the bastard children created by people from across the political and socio-economic spectrum. And your Lady-Jaysus foists her prego-teen Lou-Ann Platter on the world's stage and you rise and applaud her "courage."

Beam me up, please.

Hey, great idea. And who makes these rules? Sounds alot like Hitler with his master race... let's use genetics to screen out only the few who have the right connections... better yet, we can copy the carbon market only the government will sell credits for babies... sounds like a great platform for the party that thinks a decision about conception is above their paygrade!!!

Libs will come up with one of their famous social programs to teach young men how to be fathers.

Actually the lib plan is to teach kids how not to get pregnant.

There's always the Palin Method-threaten or bribe the daddy into marriage. But,like abstinence only education, it doesn't always work.
Right Levi?

Smashmouth

And you think the decision about conception is in your pay grade? How much do you make?

Two things
I rmemneber My Grandmother and Grandfather, A WWII vet married to my gransmother 9my fathers side for 57 yeras before my Grandfather died. It just seems (without any "intellectual telling me) that that is the way it is supposed to be. I Know LIBS like to say the good ole days were times of repression, evil white people and narrow-mindedness....Funny My grandparents never struck me that way. It seemed to rub off onmy parents, and I hope on me.

And for the over population thing..So who decides who is not worthy of living to make room for the more "desirable" people. We know that the left would first kill all the jews and destroy Israel, But who would be next if that is not enough? is that why they are so intent on as many abortions as possible?

The left is very scary in so many ways, yet somehow they consider themselves, more progresive, compassionate and tolerant....

That is a shame that this society has so devalued marriage and fathers to the point they feel it unecessary. I guess that is why we now have the term 'metrosexual" to describe men who grew up not knowing how to do 'guy" stuff,

BB,
doesn't it bother you that we're a citizen of a country that's destroyed 40 million babies.

Hillbilly, right on! Great people are often created by enduring difficult circumstances such as being born to a poor familiy. I prefer them often to the people who were born to a life with little adversity, e.g., Dubya. Look how he turned out...

Smashmouth (your band sucks, btw...), please work at prosecuting this case of yours. I mean, killing babies is, if I recall, against the law. Good luck with that.

Abortion is legal in America Snuffy...your "guys" had all three branches for six years and didn't change it. So you think they really want to?

EVASGOUSH (or whatever you're called),
I guess you're indifferent to 40 million living beings in the womb destroyed. Pro-choice don't want to think about it. They'd rather have some doctor suck the life out of a woman and dump it in the garbage. But it's a fact and all the talk about an outside-the womb female's right to her decision doesn't change it.

"For the good of mankind, God set the standard of human relationship: marriage"

is that based on the fact that god impregnated an unmarried teenager?

"is that based on the fact that god impregnated an unmarried teenager?"

LOL!!!

Dolt... it's the immaculate conception... not impregnation... let's distort more biblical facts, huh?

"They'd rather have some doctor suck the life out of a woman..."

Someone's been watching too many reruns of Buffy.

"Let's distort more biblical facts, huh?"

No doubt you'll take care of that just fine.

"...Two things, I remember My Grandmother and Grandfather...I Know LIBS like to say the good ole days were times of repression, evil white people and narrow-mindedness....Funny My grandparents never struck me that way...."

That's funny, because my grandparent who were of the exact same generation as yours, were two of the foulest mouthed racist and homophobes I have ever met.

And so were their friends. And the whole Ohio Neighborhood they lived in. And they were married 60 years...and died lonely and miserable.

The old days sure were fun, huh?

"....We know that the left would first kill all the jews and destroy Israel.."

Have you lost your mind? The majority of JEWS are in the Democratic Party?

"...I guess that is why we now have the term 'metrosexual" to describe men who grew up not knowing how to do 'guy" stuff...Posted by HillBillyJihad"

Metrosexual is a term from the early 1990's. Where have you been? Hiding in your Trailer Park?

You are a Moron.

"... EVERY conservative I know admits their not perfect but in the Bible we have a moral foundation that this country is based... what's your's... the Daily Kos? Posted by smashmouth..."

Relying on the Bible for 'Moral Foundation' is laughable. You can find every Moral Contradiction Available To Mankind slapped between the pages of your Plagerized Myth Primer.

And obviously, since you don't know when to use 'There, Their, or They're', you've spent too much time in bible study and not enough time in a real classroom.

Is it any surprise that you are a Moron too?

Oh yeah... I forgot... you may have read a religous picture book once as a child

"it's the immaculate conception... not impregnation..."

impregnate (m-prgnt)
tr.v. impregnated, impregnating, impregnates
1. To make pregnant; inseminate.
2. To fertilize (an ovum, for example).

conception (kn-spshn)
n.
1.
a. Formation of a viable zygote by the union of the male sperm and female ovum; fertilization.

NO, I just know my history of the Catholic church... and I think 350AD trumps your pictionary...

"Is it any surprise that you are a Moron too?"

No surprise whatsoever.

"and I think"

Doubtful.

"350AD"

A real happening year, no doubt.

But even if there are perfect parents, they cannot guarantee their children growing up right. Adam and Eve had a perfect Father, but they went astray.

#1 | Posted by takitez at 2008-09-07 11:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

Roy, because God gives humans intelligence and reasoning power and hold them accountable for their decisions (when they become adults).

#9 | Posted by takitez at 2008-09-07 11:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

WELL, if the Father they had was PERFECT....how in the world could that Father have children that ended up going astray? Hmmmmm!? ANSWER THAT ONE. Gee, that Father doesn't seem anymore perfect than Mr. Palin or now over half of the Fathers in the United States now.

PLUS, since this perfect Father gave humans reasoning power......why in the world does this perfect Father have a need to then "hold them accountable for their decisions"....when the consequences to them from this PERFECT Father can be so catastrophic? Heaven or Hell! Why does a perfect Father have the need to relegate a child of his(that grew to be an adult and made decisions) to forever be in heaven with the Father or instead forever in hell. A perfect Father that has that need.....doesn't seem so perfect to me. What about to you?

"I just know my history of the Catholic church"

Not sure what the history of any religion has to do with the fact that conception = impregnation and impregnation = conception.

Of course, when it comes to the history of the Catholic Church... well, how long again was it that it took that church to apologize to Galileo and admit that they were wrong?

"God gives humans intelligence and reasoning power and hold them accountable for their decisions (when they become adults)."

Become adults??? When's that?

At puberty?

At the "age of consent" (varies by country and by state here in America)

At 16?

At 18?

At 21?

Since God speaks exclusively to takeitez, perhaps he can check out that answer and get back to us.

"What about to you?"

Great post, Ride_on.

Since God speaks exclusively to takeitez, perhaps he can check out that answer and get back to us.

#43 | Posted by truthsetyoufree at 2008-09-07 01:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Perhaps he's in consultation and will be right back with firm FACTS.

Let's hope they vote.

I wonder how many of these women are living at home and mom and dad are having to raise another kid.

Far from it, our society subsidizes this behavior.

#15 | Posted by member2586

ain't that the truth.

I wonder how many of these women are living at home and mom and dad are having to raise another kid.

Indeed, I wonder if they will do a better job on this go round?

Legislating morality always fails. People always disregard such rules or find ways around them. Prohibition, the War on Drugs, Anti-homosexuality laws, arbitrary ages set for legal consensual sex, perjury, anything having to do with personal financial/political gain.
And a big warning siren should go off anytime anyone tries to invoke God when discussing how to deal with these issues.

Those good ole christian familiy values and faith based abstinence only programs are working...

....it's working as well as the sex education that's been taught in our schools for at least 45 years.

If we adopted polygamy as the rest of the civilized world, (oh, it's the rest of the Muslim world), we shouldn't have to worry about all those poor moms without husbands. There's be enough wealthy hubbies for 3, 4 or 5 wives per marriageable man!

Salaam aleichum! Humma humma Akbar! Humma Humma mubarak!

"That's funny, because my grandparent who were of the exact same generation as yours, were two of the foulest mouthed racist and homophobes I have ever met.

And so were their friends. And the whole Ohio Neighborhood they lived in. And they were married 60 years...and died lonely and miserable.

The old days sure were fun, huh?"

Posted by "Dumpling1"

"That explains your hateful rantings and 'ignorant' beliefs, I am so sorry you hated your grandparents. And I am so sorry they passed their hate to your parents and then you.

And that is such a long time agao, the 1990's, so metrosexual is an ancient term, seems to me, they are a fairly common phenomenom which I directly attribute to Liberal attitudes about Family, I can see you will never see the joy of a stabile, loving family.

And as for the jews, sure they vote democratic, But Israel just kills LIBS that it even exist, I hear it all the time here.

Humma Humma

I know Huma. I have her phone number.

You know her too???

I am sure this is more true with varying ethnic groups that others. And definitely true with 14 to 18 year old females.

BB,
doesn't it bother you that we're a citizen of a country that's destroyed 40 million babies.

#26 | Posted by smashmouth at 2008-09-07 12:38 PM | Reply |

Baby killing is against the law. You are an idiot. Unfortunately, that is not against the law.

You can raise your children like Palin has raised hers. Get a job and ignore their upbringing and your kids get knocked up and out of the house by 18. Her sex education plan worked well didn't it.

It's a plan.

BB,
doesn't it bother you that we're a citizen of a country that's destroyed 40 million babies.

#26 | Posted by smashmouth at 2008-09-07 12:38 PM | Reply |

Baby killing is against the law. You are an idiot. Unfortunately, that is not against the law.

#57 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Uh, he means to say "no".

"For the good of mankind, God set the standard of human relationship: marriage"

is that based on the fact that god impregnated an unmarried teenager?

#30 | Posted by truthhurts

Unmarried?

Idiot, she was married to Joseph. Also the original version of the Bible doesn't make mention of a virgin. The wording was "a chaste woman". She was married and there is no reason to find her a virgin. The main point is the conception was "of God" not man.

If you want to make quotation etc, know what you are talking about.

The Catholics will disagree but I will rely on the real written word not a convenient translation made well over 1500 years after the fact. Read the real thing ot a poetic effort made to please King James not the truth.

Well... if you used the bible as a sex manual there would be fewer pregancies... between people that aren't close relatives, girl children or forced.
Starting with Genesis the bible is practically an instruction manual for rape, incest and genital mutilation. Everything else is punishable by God... them pesky sodomites.

Probably why the Christian righty tightys want to make it illegal for a woman to have an abortion even under those circumstances cause its how the word of God says it should be done.

Christians like it rough and dirty. Shame on them trollops for being willing. Its cheap and ungodly and ruins the lives of innocent children.

BTW Joseph and Mary were first cousins... in case you think they were an exception. So Mary was either cheating or Jesus was inbred.

I'm tired of hearing that single parenthood is some kind of disaster. For years I've heard it from the right; now that the unmarried daughter of the Republican VP is pregnant, suddenly the left has discovered the evils of premarital sex and pregnancy.

As usual, the answer lay in between. People make mistakes, we adapt, and move on. I've yet to meet a single parent who looks back with misty eyes and says, you know, I wish I would've gotten an abortion. And I've yet to meet a married person I would switch places with. It would be better for all the single parents on planet earth were the politicians and clergy and supposedly well-meaning friends just to shut the hell up about what they pretend to know about our lives.

If tax-payers were able to stop paying women to have babies, this crazy behavior would stop. Libs invented welfare and it destroyed the family. Welfare reform was a start, now we need to end it.

If tax-payers were able to stop paying women to have babies, this crazy behavior would stop. Libs invented welfare and it destroyed the family. Welfare reform was a start, now we need to end it.

#64 | Posted by fwthom

fwthom ... well said.

"I'm tired of hearing that single parenthood is some kind of disaster. For years I've heard it from the right; now that the unmarried daughter of the Republican VP is pregnant, suddenly the left has discovered the evils of premarital sex and pregnancy."

I hate to say it, RIR, but well said.

"If tax-payers were able to stop paying women to have babies, this crazy behavior would stop."

I assume you would like to eliminate child tax credits as well, right?

If tax-payers were able to stop paying women to have babies, this crazy behavior would stop. Libs invented welfare and it destroyed the family. Welfare reform was a start, now we need to end it.

uuummmmm.....there are 6 billion people on the planet. 7 million people are added to the world population every month. There are parts of the world without welfare, in fact too poor for welfare and women still have babies without the benefits of marriage... my guess is that is true most places in the world... and it has been that way since the beginning of time.

Your logic, gripe,blatant display of ignorance or whatever that remark was meant to be... is without merit. As long as there is hetero sexual activity there will be children. You don't like it? Don't fuck. Make everyone that fucks stop fucking. You can't... so you may as well get over it. and uhhhh stop talking like a victim. Besides Jesus liked babies. Its in the Bible.

For years I've heard it from the right; now that the unmarried daughter of the Republican VP is pregnant, suddenly the left has discovered the evils of premarital sex and pregnancy.

#63 | Posted by rightisright at 2008-09-07 10:23 PM | Reply

The left has never said premarital sex was bad or that pregnancy was evil, married or not. The right is the ones that make unmarried women whores and brand them with scarlet letters--not liberals.

The left is concerned for the pregnant teen that isn't the daughter of the potential VP of the US. The poor girl with not much education or family support. The left cares for her, and her right to make a choice as to whether to bring that embryo to term or not--and we support either choice she makes. If she decides to go full term on her pregnancy, the left wants to stand by her and her child for education and health benefits. The right wants to berate her for being a burden on society--and the right thinks they have the moral high ground.

No one on the left has said anything negative about Bristol. The only negative comments have been about Palin herself who advocates abstinance only education---and shows how effective it is--and who cuts funding for unwed mothers. This from the party of family values--at least they are consistent in cutting funds for military families and families in general. But listen to them when they say how much they are the party that supports family values. It is surprising how many people believe them.

"For years I've heard it from the right; now that the unmarried daughter of the Republican VP is pregnant, suddenly the left has discovered the evils of premarital sex and pregnancy."

What crap, for decades the progressives have advocated for sex education, birth control and the right to choose. At the same time we have fought for the rights of single mothers, for enforcement of child support, for equal pay for women, for educational opportunities for women, for benefits in the work place to make it easier for women to care for their families while they earn a living.
At the same time the right has fought against every one of those things yet now is thrilled about Palin's daughter's pregnancy never admitting that were this girl the daughter of a poor working class mom or even a welfare mom the righties would spare no obscenity in condemning both the mother and the daughter. You can always depend on the right for one thing.....hypocrisy and lots of it.

Really?

Wow. The things you learn on the DR. Are you saying that welfare budgets didn't exceed the rate of inflation by 3 times during the Bush/Repub Congress years? Are you suggesting that child tax credits went DOWN, not up?

Or maybe you're pretending that the so-called "gender gap" isn't the smallest in history, or that women now outnumber men in American colleges and universities, despite the fact that misogynists have been running the White House and Congress for so long? And perhaps I'M unaware of the fact that, all the rhetoric aside, the Republicans haven't really done much but provide lip service when it comes to abortion? Still legal, right? Everywhere?

Kinda funny, really. All the things you pretend to care about, you've gotten under the Bush presidency. What has voting for so-called progressives gotten you? Nice regurgitation of the DNC talking points, though. Bravo.

"Are you saying that welfare budgets didn't exceed the rate of inflation by 3 times during the Bush/Repub Congress years?"

Gee, now why would that be???
Seems when Dems run the country people get JOBS, when Rethugs run the country and get unemployed they turn to welfare.
A good economy which creates jobs benefits the poor and especially single moms.

.....let's thank that great Republican Jimmy Carter for those record unemployment rates.

Oh yeah, the great interest and inflation rates too!

The next generation of children is going to be much more unequal than what we have today,-- Sum warned. Youre going to have a really elite group and a group that will massively fall behind. These gaps are really extraordinary. I testified before Congress and said, Look guys, we really need to face this. --

I would like to see this broken down by race.

let's thank that great Republican Jimmy Carter for those record unemployment rates.

Oh yeah, the great interest and inflation rates too!

#73 | Posted by ride_on at 2008-09-08 10:56 AM | Reply

Carter was the second best President of the last half of the 20th century. He had to contend with the inflationary leadership of the republicans after 8 years of inflation powered by Viet Nam. His plans got us back on track and Reagan took the credit. Then Reagan spent us back into poverty again by giving money to the military for nothing. STAR WARS--remember that? What a waste of money--what a boondoggle that you morons still lap up--just like Iraq. Then after 12 years of Reagan Bush, its up to another democrat to clean up the mess made by republicans, and he did it well.

Then there comes your hero Bush the Traitor. If Bush isn't guilty of Criminal Acts, he is guilty of being Criminally Stupid.

You have the chance to elect another elitest who thinks people who make four million a year aren't rich, and if you can count your houses, you are a peasant.

I would like to see this broken down by race.

#75 | Posted by cabo_vato at 2008-09-08 11:25 AM | Reply

I'd like to see this broken down by IQ.

A good economy which creates jobs benefits the poor and especially single moms.

Yeah, the poor and single moms thrive when a democrat is in office.

Idiot, she was married to Joseph. Also the original version of the Bible doesn't make mention of a virgin. The wording was "a chaste woman". She was married and there is no reason to find her a virgin. The main point is the conception was "of God" not man.

If you want to make quotation etc, know what you are talking about.

The Catholics will disagree but I will rely on the real written word not a convenient translation made well over 1500 years after the fact. Read the real thing ot a poetic effort made to please King James not the truth.

i'm the idiot yet you are the one basing your life on a book that YOU admit has had many version. tell exactly WHICH version is the one TRUE word

god your DUMB

Sometimes you get exactly what you asked for. It's ironic the liberals can't figure out that this is the inevitable outcome of their wayward policies.

Enjoy!

Sarah Palin's daughter's pregnancy is from liberal policies? WOW!

It's ironic the liberals can't figure out that this is the inevitable outcome of their wayward policies.

Enjoy!

#83 | Posted by happyending at 2008-09-08 12:05 PM | Reply

This inevitable outcome is the policy of right wingnuts like yourself who think teaching abstinance only as sex education works. That is YOUR wayward policy.

You aren't even bright enough to realise it--or the irony of your post.

Most teens for the last 45 years have had sex education in school. The majority of it has NOT been limited to abstinence only. Hey, it really works.

Ride On

So you think ignorance is the best policy.

I understand your position. It is the same one used by Sarah Palin. Hey, it really works.

What crap, for decades the progressives have advocated for sex education, birth control and the right to choose. At the same time we have fought for the rights of single mothers, for enforcement of child support, for equal pay for women, for educational opportunities for women, for benefits in the work place to make it easier for women to care for their families while they earn a living.

#70 | Posted by danni at 2008-09-08 08:40 AM
******

Yes and how quickly you hypocrites turn on this poor 17 year old girl because of her mothers political beliefs. You liberals are only about power and control and don't give a damn about people or this country. How many young girls have you known in your life Danni, even with all this sex-education you lefties brain washed them with, that got pregnant out of marriage. How many did you attack and spew you venom on, how many woman have you attacked for having a job and kids. I dare say you have a job and kids yourself, does that make you a terrible mother you slut.

Mutt

No one has said anything negative towards Bristol. You are delusional. Your reading skills are at a mid elementary skill level.

Your post show you to be a person full of hate and vitriol. Fodder for the right.

I simply stated that the majority of teens have been taught sex education in schools for 45 years. From my post, "The majority of it has NOT been limited to abstinence only." The classes consist of protective options and abstinence. READING...it's FUNDAMENTAL.

#85 | Posted by ride_on at 2008-09-08 02:13 PM | Reply

The majority of teens have not turned up pregnant. I guess if your point isn't--ignorance is best--you have no point. The teens that did receive sex education and still turned up pregnant? They failed the course. You do understand that not all students pay attention don't you? You do realize some fail don't you? I guess you don't realize it is best to arm them with knowledge--or do you? You seem to have trouble saying WTF you mean. Spit it out. Make a stand. Say what you mean.