I vote against the elitists, Not to stick it to them, but to keep them from sticking it to me.

elitists = anyone smart enough to know that a vote for McSame is a vote for Bush.

elitists = any news service demanding a login

As opposed to the Democrats who are selling the politics of victimization.

elitist = Navy flier given yet ANOTHER jet to fly even after destroying four of them only because his father and grandfather were admirals.

Such a simple message...and so dead on accurate.

As opposed to the Democrats who are selling the politics of victimization.

As opposed to the Republicans, whose main weapon is vilification of straw men.

This is a cultural movement, ironically propagated by the power elite. They sold Dubya to them on the basis of his regular-guy-ness, and look where that got us? I mean, if anyone is the definition of an elitist, by background and by actions, it's Bush. Silver-spoon Yalie, reported disdain and disconnection for the everyday folks who thought he'd stop by for a Sunday potroast.

Americans really need to stop with this "I want to vote for someone average" bullshit. No, no, no; we want someone smarter than us to make the big decisions, and if that's elitist, then, so be it.

Christ, what's next for 2012? Tony Stewart on the ticket? Yeeehaaaaawww!

As opposed to the Republicans, whose main weapon is vilification of straw men.

#7 | Posted by Whatsleft

How is the politics of victimization a strawman? Do democrats not constantly espouse that people in a disadvantagous position were placed there rather than achieving their status by their own actions/inactions? And resultingly have no responsibility to elevate their status or position?

"Do democrats not constantly espouse that people in a disadvantagous position were placed there rather than achieving their status by their own actions/inactions? And resultingly have no responsibility to elevate their status or position?"

What a bunch of talking points all stuck together to created a pile of crap.

Do democrats not constantly espouse that people in a disadvantagous position were placed there rather than achieving their status by their own actions/inactions? And resultingly have no responsibility to elevate their status or position?

No, but I constantly hear Republicans relegating Democrats to that ideology, perhaps a result of the Republicans own inadequacies.

As opposed to the Democrats who are selling the politics of victimization.

#4 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

Kind of like Palin the "MESSAH".

So can't read Krugman's whining POS article.

MESSAH--what is this?

As opposed to the Democrats who are selling the politics of class warfare and empty bag of coal.

"As opposed to the Democrats who are selling the politics of class warfare and empty bag of coal."

As opposed to Republicans who have been class warfare for decades.

"waging class warfare for decades".

"So can't read Krugman's whining POS article."

If you can't read it, then how can you describe it as a "whining POS article"?

Link to the article...

By invoking victimization, liberals justify government intervention and control of wealth, income and commerce.

Stop posting links to NYT!

They will be controlled by Mega Murdoch soon enough!

If you can't read it, then how can you describe it as a "whining POS article"?
posted by Nullifidian

By invoking victimization, liberals justify government intervention and control of wealth, income and commerce.

#18 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

Wow. I'm amazed how someone can cram so much idiocy into such a small post. Hey sparky, why don't you go read a few civics books. You might learn about the purpose of the FTC, the Fed, the myth of the 'free market', taxation policy etc, etc.
Besides, the only ones crying victim now are the poor conservatives, crying about having their bullshit exposed by the 'evil media'.

Krugman is right though.

We should not "misunderestimate" the Rethugs ability to exploit the ignorance of the masses.

I thought the Republican Convention was just bizzaro. The number of filthy rich moaning about elitism was astounding.

Unless Palin's hubby is a stay at home dad, we'll see VP candidate Palin's kids raised by nannies, but don't mistake that for elitism.

Krugman has a point. It's always fun sticking to elite libs. That's a good enough reason to vote for McCain and Palin.

I always thought it would be fun to stick it to Krugman. If we could get some neocons together to buy a house next to him in the city and then rent it out to some crack heads, whores, welfare types and pimps, the oppressed type that Krugman claims to love so much.

Thom just invite your redneck family, that will teach him;-)

Oh what garbage, obama's entire strategy is..he's not gw and the politics of old. How dare Obama and his minions do this...when all they do is belittle the "politics of old".

His whole program is based on spreading fear and anxiety..that only "He" can fix by election. His wife is ashamed of america, his preacher hates america, his friend is proud of his bombings...what part of that isn't about resentment. They hate what america's become, though now that you mention it, they hate america for what it's always been. he can't name a time when they were proud to be american...

I was thinking of filling it up with blacknecks instead.

elitist = anyone who pursues a higher education and is not afraid to use it openly

By invoking victimization, liberals justify government intervention and control of wealth, income and commerce.

#18 | Posted by ELCIDCE90

The republicans are getting more stupid by the second.. I guess the anti-elitist education in creationism is starting to pay off.

My dream is that they reproduce to the point of being one genetic step from fruit flies then we can collectively dispatch of all of them at once.

Creationism disqualifies her from being anywhere near anything serious.

Come on Republicans, you cannot expect to sell this woman as being qualified for anything important after the last 8 years.

This will be a landslide against McCain/Palin much like Goldwater when he went down against Johnson.

If ya can't run on accomplishments or goals, go with them eastern elitists are pickin' on you.

She didn't say to teach creationism, she clarified what she said..so long ago...that it shouldn't be prohibited to talk about it.

And talking about "resentment" how many retorts on the dr are have stated resentments towards GW or "neocons".

With all your support why the fuck are polls deadlocked?

BTW I doubt that's really you gz!

Davethewave-
I thought she wanted ID taught along with actual scientific theory in publicly funded schools.

Am I wrong about that, Dave?

No Dave .. I am GZ and there's no way I'd ever vote for a Creationist.

First of all I was a Biden supporter. I contributed a lot of money to him during the campaign and so I couldn't think of a better VP and advisor.

Second, I've come to understand Obama and respect where he's coming from. Why do you think he beat Hillary Dave?

Barry Obama is a midwestern kid who spoke to Iowans like he was speaking to his own grandparents, because thats who his grandparents are.

They'd (Republicans) like to make him into some Black pol completely owned by the Democrat machine in Chicago, but that would be absurd.

He's much more of a typical American then McCain or Hillary was, and that's why he connected so well.

You know how much I support Israel Dave, and you will not find a bigger supporter then Joe Biden and I believe Obama will do the right thing in this regard as well.

Am I being naive? I don't think so Dave. It would be naive to think McCain won't throw Israel under the bus the moment Exxon tells him to for the sake of the Saudis. The GOP is now owned by oil interests or do you think Alaska's Sarah Palin just popped out of thin air? She's a creation of US oil interests and as long as that doesn't conflict with Saudi Arabian interests, Israel will be OK under McCain. But the minute the Saudis have a problem, Israel will be quickly forgotten.

I do not believe that would happen under Obama. I can't be sure of course, and it is an educated gut feeling but there it is.

I am indeed GZ and I approve this post

That issue is way more complex than many would like to think, and so its important having someone in there who can grasp the complexities or haven't you learned that yet from the previous 8 years.

And for those who have the urge to bash me using the excuse that I'm only interested in Israel - meaning I'm uninterested in America, its the Creationist thing that rings the alarm bell for me.

We cannot have a Creationist in a position as influential and important and most importantly symbolic as a VP of the USA in the year 2008.

In my opinion that would send the wrong message.

Holy crap! Grand Zionist is on the right side of things. since I know you are a proud member of AIPAC,I expect you to deliver the Jewish vote to Obama.

GZ-
It's not a "message". It's the Supreme Court, and it's typed out in triplicate and poured out as cement steps to the future.

But Jews still have a role to fill, until Jesus gets back and condemns the stubborn ones to eternal damnation :)

Obama's campaign manager...knows his roots! (Thus goes for Biden!:>)
The Observer, Sunday July 27 2008

He's the man who makes Obama run

At the age of five, he was smitten by John F Kennedy, then saw his hero reborn in the charismatic senator from Illinois. Now the presidential hopeful and his power broker are within sight of the ultimate goal - the White House

"We cannot have a Creationist in a position as influential and important and most importantly symbolic as a VP of the USA in the year 2008.

In my opinion that would send the wrong message"

Ilidz. Div: OMFG! Hez red sumtin dat mi dumazz dadie sez iz ginst jezus!!!!!!

Ahh here come the Fascist Jew hating thought police from the Left to remind me why I hate this place while I also love it.

You really think I'm going to waste my time responding to your ignorant spew?

Fuck off and die scum ...

Now do you believe its me Dave ?

Hey GZ, the betting is that Israel is planning to attack Iran this month. Is your bomb shelter ready?

anyone smart enough to know that a vote for McSame is a vote for Bush.

#2 | Posted by goblinsrreal2

Is that lib spender running for a third term? I thought there was a law against that.

Like Matthews at MSNBC tell his guests..."try to pretend that you are an average American..."

KBM-
Does he tell McCain to try to pretend he doesn't know how many homes he owns, or that he's not wearing $500 Italian shoes, or that his wife didn't spend $280,000 on earrings to watch fellow Republicans slam Obama as an "elitist"?

Just wondering, KBM.

Unless Palin's hubby is a stay at home dad, we'll see VP candidate Palin's kids raised by nannies, but don't mistake that for elitism.

The sheer audacity of this statement is mindboggling. Who do you think we will see raising Obama's kids if he achieves the office? It won't be Ms. Obama 24/7 while hubby is off ruling the free world. It will be nannies and techrs and her...a proper MIX... Or do you only believe only Republican women shouldn't get edumacated and uppity?

Actually CPT, generally it's Republican men who tend to believe that Republican women shouldn't get edumacated and uppity. They prefer them barefoot and pregnant. Haven't you read the GOP platform yet?

That is exactly the point moder8.

Why so much venom directed at this woman about how many children her nad her husband decided to have and God forbid she decided to actually keep a baby they knew would be born with downs syndrome?

The venom spewed at her from democrats about why she isn't choosing to stay home and raise her children is just insanely idiotic.

The fact that she has children and would like to be VP has as much to do with Obama having two litle girls and wanting to be President.

Yet I have never once heard a republican criticize a candidate for wanting to seek higher office based on the size of their family.

I thought Democrats considered themselves the party of feminism and inclusion... and yet the vitriol directed at her over not staying home and being a good wife and mother is at a stunningly high level.

Hypocrits. The lot of you.

Thankfully I am an independent and view the candidates on their merits not their party affiliation.

Oh and it should read "good wife and mother" becuase you can hol a job...ANY job and stil be a good wife and mother according to all but a shrill and loony few.

"Because she can still hold a job....."

I haven't heard whose going to to do the babysitting when Gidget gets to Washington. MILLIONS of working mothers would LOVE nannies if they could afford them, even the shrill and loonny ones.

Gee, I guess I better put a finer point on this: finding good day care is ONE F--- OF A CHALLENGE to real working mothers.

I'd like to ask Gidget what she'll do to help them, But, as we were told yesterday, she doesn't have to answer such questions.

edumacated and uppity?

#47 | Posted by CPTindependent

CPTI, you're starting to sound likw George Bush!

I haven't heard whose going to to do the babysitting when Gidget gets to Washington. MILLIONS of working mothers would LOVE nannies if they could afford them, even the shrill and loonny ones.

#51 | Posted by Zed

And where is the outrage on how Obama plans on raising his little girls if he makes it to the big house?

How are the situations any different?

I mean besides one's views are different than your own and this is an easy way of attacking her in a loud shrill and looney voice while downplaying that Obama is in the exact same situation...except he is a man.

ridiculous.

"And where is the outrage....?"

Hell, the point is Palin is describing herself as a hard-working mom who likely won't work hard at being a mom at all.

"Balances career with home...." I heard that said about her at the Republican Convention. But she won't need to balance anything: the slack will be handled by others.

What's the difference between her and Obama? Obama's not bragging about qualities he doesn't possess. Gidget is.

CAPT---Palin's had an easy life to date, from what I can tell. McCain may be a hero; he sure paid some dues. Palin's not, and hasn't. Anyone that hangs her picture above their bed is a fool.

Anyone that hangs her picture above their bed is a fool.

Unless it's a Playboy centerfold.

CPTindependent:
You must be either a shill or a goof.
After all, you completely ignore all of the venom slung at H. Clinton the last 8 yrs, while pointing fingers at Palin detractors.

CPTindependent:
You must be either a shill or a goof.
After all, you completely ignore all of the venom slung at H. Clinton the last 8 yrs, while pointing fingers at Palin detractors.

#58 | Posted by SamBarber

I ignore it because as I said no one attacked her over her "motherliness."

Qualifications to be involved in politics, sure. But nothing was brought up about how should **gasp** be a mother AND have a job!

This is an attack of convenience hoping everyone ignores what how much they just yesterday championed a womans ability to get as high as she desired in life.

What's the difference between her and Obama? Obama's not bragging about qualities he doesn't possess. Gidget is.

#55 | Posted by Zed

So somehow mentioning she is a mother is bad? She showed off her family and mentioned she is a mother at the convention.

Did you miss the day that Obama paraded around on stage with his little girls all dressed up?

GZ LIVES!!! Right on!

I don't see how a bunch of people beleiving that God invented the world in 7 days is any less radical and silly than a bunch of people believing that a little piece of land was given to them by God.

#40 | Posted by k_g_beekeeper

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