I guess VP's kids are now relevant. Aren't they?

9 years ago.

learn to read.

Joe,

There will be no mentioning of the children of political candidates on my blog. We're above that here.

Sincerely,
RCade

Please stop the insanity!

Who cares if it was 9 years ago? Was Biden not her dad 9 years ago?

This shows the most horrible lack of judgment on her father's part. Just disgusting. He needs to stay at home and take care of her drug-addled ass.

Good, now the right can act PC and not discuss this except when they mention that they aren't discussing it.

Poor Joe, doesn't realize that it was the lady governor that threw her kid under the bus.

Gee, Sarah smoked dope and she's fit to be Commander-in-Chief. Joe's daughter smoked dope and its a big deal.

No hypocracy there.

Actually sarah's dope smoking but not becoming a serial killer and the failure of her abstinence only philosophy should make the GOPhers realise they need to get with reality.

Holy shit! Pot! Oh my god!

Why she just may be VP material for the GOP. Of course she would have to be Mayor of Mooseville first.

Palin smoked pot, somehow she didnt possess it though.

She got into Barky's stash?

marijuana should be legal

Biden is obviously not qualified to hold office AND raise children at the same time. He needs to go home and take care of his kid, who obviously has "special needs", like dope. What a horrible parent he is!

According to the Logic of the Left(TM), this proves that Biden is a bad parent, and that trying to teach your children to be law-abiding citizens is absolutely pointless.

who obviously has "special needs", like dope

so sarah palin has special needs as well?

JOE is the poster who disapproves of "defections" but not if it's a defection to the last century.

Nice one, JOE

According to the Logic of the Left(TM), this proves that Biden is a bad parent, and that trying to teach your children to be law-abiding citizens is absolutely pointless.

#15 | Posted by JOE

He was busy focusing on getting his boy setup in Washington.

Rightwing Joe attacking liberals. Yawn.

Excuse moi - "deflections"

But there are defects involved, too.

palin is not a issue cause she has kids
or that her daughter is pregnant

again
its that she is anti education that is the funny part

but keep trying

is biden anti d.a.r.e.

when you find me that link
we can continue this discussion

in the mean time

legalize

shhhh klifferd you are disturbing the righties from playing with their strawmen

"JOE is the poster who disapproves of "defections" but not if it's a defection to the last century."

It's not a deflection if I start my own thread about it. I've given more than my fair share of on-topic commentary in the Palin threads. If the children of VP candidates are relevant to the election, then this article is relevant and is not a deflection. I did not post it in a Palin thread. Comment on it and stop whining.

YEAH!

Ok, lets look at this!

Palin Subscribes the Party of "Family Values" that has touted itself the sole owner of decency!
They have historically taken a hard line stance on this subject and have made political hay out of chastising others and have demanded the ruining of young lives just to show they mean it!

Biden subscribes to the party that is leaning towards and is lenient to non-violent offenders such as casual weed smokers.

Now if you want to compare the Hypocrisy --- then you have already lost!

See, palins prego daughter isnt the issue; the issue is how these people are contorting themselves now in light of their past aggressive and mean-spirited assailing of others for exactly the same thing!

Here is an example of this

The same can be said for every Palin thread - just a deflection from Obama's lack of experience and Biden's lobbyist son. -JOE

It's not a deflection if I start my own thread about it.- JOE

So it's not a "deflection" if YOU start a thread, but if others start Palin threads they ARE "deflections".

Now, I understand. JOE does not "deflect". Only others do.

Sitdown, you are a moron. When I said "the same can be said for other threads," I was mocking the fact that someone would call my own thread a "deflection." Clearly starting your own thread is not a deflection, period.

" I can recall of no instance when Biden referred to his party as the Party of Sobriety,"

In that case, it's okay for his children to break the law, so long as it doesn't make him a hypocrite. Is that the sole purpose of political debate or news stories? To expose people as hypocrites? Does the fact that Biden's daughter's drug use doesn't make Biden a hypocrite end the debate?

there is only one thing to say joe,

legalize

" I can recall of no instance when Biden referred to his party as the Party of Sobriety,"
In that case, it's okay for his children to break the law, so long as it doesn't make him a hypocrite. Is that the sole purpose of political debate or news stories? To expose people as hypocrites? Does the fact that Biden's daughter's drug use doesn't make Biden a hypocrite end the debate?
#27 | Posted by JOE at 2008-09-04 12:32 PM

YEAH!

For me it sure does!

Still you dont get it!

Those in Glass Houses ---- are now learning about all those Rocks they have been throwin!

joe, you would have a point
if you came out with how biden disciplined his daughter after she was arrested

is she still a pot head??

let me know when you figure that out

there is only one thing to say joe,

legalize

Wow, what a well thought-out response. Personally I'm in favor of legalizing all drugs. That doesn't change the fact that right now, possessing drugs is against the law, and Biden's daughter is a law-breaker. If Palin's child had stolen a bag of M&M's from the store, we'd be hearing about it, so I'll go ahead and say that this is also relevant.

In that case, it's okay for his children to break the law,
#27 | Posted by JOE

By that standard Sarah Palin should be arrested for smoking pot, no?

If she's stupid enough to get caught doing it, just like Ashley Biden, then yes.

"That doesn't change the fact that right now, possessing drugs is against the law, and Biden's daughter is a law-breaker"

YEAH!

Except "now" in your world is 1999 apparently!

"Except "now" in your world is 1999 apparently!"

Are you retarded? It was against the law both now and then. Which means that Biden's daughter broke the law. Palin's kid didn't even break the law but Palin is a bad parent. I'm assuming that there is at least some significance to this story as well.

joe,

and she was arrested

so show me the discipline article

what did biden do?

palin isn't a bad parent

she's a bad potential vp pick

joe, you are making up the lines about palin being a bad parent more then the left

"Are you retarded? It was against the law both now and then. Which means that Biden's daughter broke the law. Palin's kid didn't even break the law but Palin is a bad parent. I'm assuming that there is at least some significance to this story as well.

#35 | Posted by JOE at 2008-09-04 12:53 PM"

So you admit that Sarah Palin is a law breaker, good.

How old was Biden's daughter in 1999? Anybody know? If the parents of everyone who smoked pot at some time in their lives were thrown out of politics, I wonder how many politicians would be left on both sides of the aisle?

"If the parents of everyone who smoked pot at some time in their lives were thrown out of politics, I wonder how many politicians would be left on both sides of the aisle?"

In that case, we should also start counting how many politicians' children have had sex prior to turning 18. After all, since you're willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Ashley Biden, we likewise wouldn't want to suggest that it is somehow an anomaly that Sarah Palin's daughter did. Right?

"So you admit that Sarah Palin is a law breaker, good."

Yes, I am, if she admitted to smoking pot. While we're deflecting away from Ashley Biden, I suppose I should also mention that Barack Obama is also a lawbreaker in that he has admitted to consuming numerous illegal drugs.

If she's stupid enough to get caught doing it, just like Ashley Biden, then yes.

#33 | Posted by JOE

So are you gonna vote for a law breaker? A pot smoker? It is such a big issue for you. Are you gonna hold back your vote for Palin because of this?

"So are you gonna vote for a law breaker? A pot smoker? It is such a big issue for you. Are you gonna hold back your vote for Palin because of this?"

I've told you more than once that I'm not voting for them anyways. I personally don't think that a VP's kid being caught breaking the law is necessarily an exclusion from their parent being elected, but given the outrage toward Sarah Palin's daughter's conduct, I figured at least some people here would. If they had any principles whatsoever, that is.

In that case, we should also start counting how many politicians' children have had sex prior to turning 18. After all, since you're willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Ashley Biden, we likewise wouldn't want to suggest that it is somehow an anomaly that Sarah Palin's daughter did. Right?

I never criticized Palin's daughter for being an unwed teenage mother. I never criticized Palin for having a teenage daughter who became pregnant. I criticized Palin for pushing abstinence only education and for cutting funding for unwed teen mothers in Alaska. FWIW, I also never made an issue about Palin smoking pot. Nor would I make it an issue if one of her children did.

"I criticized Palin for pushing abstinence only education"

While abstinence-only education is not something I agree with, my point today has been that many lefties on the DR have argued that Palin's daughter's pregnancy somehow "proves" that abstinence-only education doesn't work, and that it also proves Palin to be a bad parent who needs to spend more time at home.

Who cares if it was 9 years ago? Was Biden not her dad 9 years ago?
#5 | Posted by JOE at 2008-09-04 12:05 PM

And what, pray tell, were you doing 9 years ago?
Oh, right, secnod grade.
Gawd, what a loser.

"Gawd".

If that doesn't scream homosexual I don't know what does.

And what, pray tell, were you doing 9 years ago?

Oh, right, secnod grade.
Posted by Doc_Sarvis

FF What were you? A bulge in Daddy's britches?

"somehow "proves" that abstinence-only education doesn't work"

what it does prove is that its f'n cold in alaska
and body heat is the cure

Why didn't McStupid just pick Kay Bailey Hutchinson or mutt rummey and we could have something good to argue about?

I'm tired of the alaskan hillbillies already.

#48 | Posted by wisgod at 2008-09-04 02:36 PM

Let little Joey speak for himself.
What are you?
His nanny, guardian, soulmate, or minder?

9 yrs ago lil joey? keep reaching.

"Gawd".

If that doesn't scream homosexual I don't know what does.

#47 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-09-04 02:33 PM |

somehow i think you do son.

Let little Joey speak for himself.
What are you?
His nanny, guardian, soulmate, or minder?

#51 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

His spellchecker, Mr. secnod grade. I don't like it when people do it to me either. Buck up.

"While we're deflecting away from Ashley Biden, I suppose I should also mention that Barack Obama is also a lawbreaker in that he has admitted to consuming numerous illegal drugs.

#41 | Posted by JOE at 2008-09-04 01:19 PM"

This thread was based on deflection and hypocrisy.

Biden's daughter arrested fer drugs?

At least she didn't steal them like Cindy McCain did.

Of course, Cindy never got arrested fer the drugs or the theft and McCain almost covered it up perfectly but he got too heavy handed with a reporter and the story broke.

Sarah didn't get arrested when she smoked pot.

Neither did Dumbya when he was spotted snorting coke at Camp David when he was in his fourties and his dad was POTUS.

Neither did Bill Clinton when he famously "didn't inhale".

Neither did Spud ten minutes ago.

^_^

Is it the "doing drugs" thing or the "getting arrested" part that you find so upsetting, Joe?

Spud also believes that all drugs should be legal, regulated and taxed.

That prohibition doesn't work.

Or more properly it works but mostly to benefit criminal gangs who's existence are a blight and a danger to society.

Counter productive, to say the least.

Compared to Sarah's flippant and dangerous attitude towards her own middle aged pregnancy with Trig ie. taking long flights before and after her water broke, returning to work three days later etc, this 9 yo pot charge story is a non-starter in the DR Bad Political Parent competition.

That sed this thread is getting more Traction than Spud's thread on an affair Sarah Palin is alleged to have engaged in a coupla years back.

Dang it.

Ha! Is just getting silly now.

Sed this election was gonna be unlike any other.

Luff being right.

Be Well.

"Is just getting silly now."

Now???....no I would say for awhile....both persuasions.

Who cares if it was 9 years ago?

I do. Even if that's the right Ashley Biden, it was an extremely minor arrest that happened a long time ago. I didn't put the Todd Palin DUI on the front page because it was 22 years ago and wasn't the candidate herself. Same situation here.

Oh, by the way Joe, the laws making certain drugs, not all of them, illegal, is well, illegal.
Nothing in the constitution that gives the government such an authority.
Also consider that most of them exist soley on the demands of business leaders and the religious whores of note in this country. Because the PEOPLE ignored their demands.

But then men like you have been corrupting and perverting the authority of that document since day one. Without that corruption, men like you would have no calling in life.

And no "career", as well.

Much like I could care less who Palin's kid is screwing I could care less what Biden's kid is smoking. I believe as a parent you teach your kids right from wrong, but you can't control them all of the time and they must make their own mistakes at some point. This is also why I think "abstinance only" program are quite stupid. You can't legislate morality/ethics.

"Oh, by the way Joe, the laws making certain drugs, not all of them, illegal, is well, illegal.
Nothing in the constitution that gives the government such an authority."

What in the Constitution gives the federal government the authority to make drugs illegal?

"At least she didn't steal them like Cindy McCain did.

Of course, Cindy never got arrested fer the drugs or the theft and McCain almost covered it up perfectly but he got too heavy handed with a reporter and the story broke."

Excellent points there spud.

this 9 yo pot charge story is a non-starter in the DR Bad Political Parent competition.

#56 | Posted by dethspud

Absouletly agree. What about dragging your kids to a racist church though? That occured just this year. Is that on the table for Bad Political Parent competition spud?

What about working hours away from home as a single dad? Is that on the table spud? We know whats on your table anyway - go back to the pot - the world makes more sense to you when your on the pot spud.

When your on the pot, does that make you a boiled tater?

Marijuana's legal in Alaska.

Marijuana's legal in Alaska.

By federal law it's illegal in every state.

Nope. Possession of up to 4 ounces is legal in Alaska.

Nope. Possession of up to 4 ounces is legal in Alaska.

#66 | Posted by rightisright at 2008-09-05 02:34 PM | Reply

It would still be against Federal Law, and you could still be arrested and imprisoned for years.