"Before she was governor, Palin sought for Wooten to be investigated for allegedly using a Taser on his stepson, shooting a moose, and driving drunk."

That's all? Doesn't everybody do that?

"engaged in a divorce"

Pun intended?

Palin Rocks! Wow!

Palin Rocks In Head! Wow!

There, fixed it for you.

so I guess Palin tried to pressure a public official to fire a trooper, which she should not have done, and then fired the official when he wouldn't comply with her wishes. Sounds like a republican

McCan't has the libtards thinkin' he's McCan, now!!! Gotta love this shit!!!!

Obama would have sat down and talked about it.

Sounds like a politician, DOEMass

No big deal.... she'll get through this easy.

DOEM are you too stupid to read the article.

-- Wooten used a Taser on his stepson

-- He drank beer in his patrol car on one occasion.

-- He told others that his father-in-law Palin's father, Chuck Heath would "eat a f'ing lead bullet" if he helped his daughter get an attorney for the divorce.

Wooten's 10-day suspension was reduced to five after his union filed a grievance.

After the Taser, she should have shot him in the nutts. After the threat to the father in law, he should have been prosecuted.

But who saved this punk?

What a weak choice. Why would McCain possibly choose such an unknown, unqualified and unimpressive person to be his number 2? And she is under investigation to boot? Wow.

"Why would McCain possibly choose such an unknown, unqualified and unimpressive person to be his number 2? "

Vagina Vote.

"But a week after his firing, Monegan said there was pressure to fire Wooten from Palin's administration as well as from Todd Palin. The pressure continued until just a month or two before he was let go, Monegan said.

Monegan said Palin herself again brought up Wooten in February as they were walking together to wish a state senator a happy birthday. Monegan said he told Palin he had to keep her at arm's distance on the matter and she agreed."

It dosent sound like she was supposed to be trying influence the investigation. It has nothing to do with whether or not the dude deserved to be fired, only if she crossed the line when trying to get him fired

Yeah, but I really doubt most women are gonna vote for old man McCain because of some inexperienced Alaskan fox. In fact, women may he even resent the tacit condescension of choosing a woman it looks like he wants to fuck.

And if there were threats made were the police called, charges pressed? a restraining order?
or did she just run around the capital outside of procedure and fire anyone who wouldn't tow her line?

Reminds me of 1972 when George McGovern did not fully vet out Tom Eagleton. McCain's pick may have guaranteed Obama's landslide win.

too funny

"This month, as her administration gathered materials for the legislative investigation, Palin released a recording of a phone call in which one of her aides pressured a trooper lieutenant to fire Wooten. That contradicted her earlier claims that there had been no pressure. She said she was unaware of the conversation until the investigation uncovered it. She also disclosed that members of her administration had had about two dozen contacts with public safety officials about Wooten."

"Palin has put Bailey on paid administrative leave during the investigation. She said she never asked Bailey to make that call."

Boy, I just Pwned midtowncowboy on this thread. hahahahahah

So she's a liar. petty and vindictive. Well so is Cheney. So I guess in rightwing eyes she is equally qualified.

Unfrickingbelievable.

Michael Palin's sister as Veep? She's a lumberjack and she's ok??

This bimbo would criminilize, the teaching of evolution, birth control, and women who abort Downs babies, even though she opposes taxpayers to pay for programs that helps Downs babies: SOUNDS MAINSTREAM AND LIKE A HILLARY VOTERS TO ME!

too funny

If the public safety administrator had bowed to the pressure of the governor, Wooten and his Union would have been up the state governments ass with an unlawful termination suit so fast it would have made their collective head spin. Apparently the presumptive republican vice president candidate is unaware of the protocol of government administration. Or maybe, like the current adminstration, she just doesn't give a damn.

couple of points:
1. anti pro-choice
2. the trooper probably abused sister
3. wants creationism taught alongside evolution

I don't care about point #1 or #2 (she can't reverse Roe)
but #3, lack of science training or support in a global ecomomy requiring real research, no way! especially sten cell research

Reminds me of 1972 when George McGovern did not fully vet out Tom Eagleton. McCain's pick may have guaranteed Obama's landslide win.

Yeah, she's just killing poor McCain, allright. Hahaha!

Monegan's gonna be getting a big fat check to settle this ASAP.
And it won't be Palin's dough. A litlle state money down the toilet to cover the crazy Palin family.

So what, because the fundies have decided to finally donate after staying on the sidelines till now. This pick helps solidify the Conservative voter base who wernt going to vote obama anyway, but it may hurt his ability to pick up swing voters and swing states.

"Why would McCain possibly choose such an unknown, unqualified and unimpressive person to be his number 2? "

Jeebus vote. Dobson had a woodie when he heard the news and Mcsame doesn't have to compete with Mike for camera time.

no she's not

If McSame had wanted an ethical candidate he wouldn't have picked an Alaska Republican...

Mitt and Rudi and Mike gotta be crapping themselves. And these allegations ain't ditsnt history. Sounds like somebody fucked up in McSame's campaign.

I've read Mitt and Pawlenty are livid they were dragged along in this drama. Don't look for them to be campaigning for McCain.

I knew it wasnt Mitt when they sent his ass to Colorodo for the Dem. Convention. You dont do that to your VP. I hop Mitt knew that too.

Palin is a damn good choice for veep. We all know at least one person every bit as qualified as her. In fact I probably know 10 or 15 women like this babe right off the bat. So I can relate in a very down to earth, day-to-day way to quite a few charming people who have no experience or in depth knowledge of national or international affairs. She has my vote.

McCain camp claims $3 million poured in by 6 pm ET after Palin pick.
how much poured into Obama's campaign after his speech?

So, to recap: Palin has now been described on this thread as "a liar, petty and vindictive" and "unknown and unqualified". With these endorsements, she sounds like a cross between Hillary and Obama!

I've read Mitt and Pawlenty are livid they were dragged along in this drama. Don't look for them to be campaigning for McCain.

~AU

Spud heard that too.

BTW, used yer O'Bama Boy vid on youtube as me first embed EVAR.

Ta fer that.

how much poured into Obama's campaign after his speech?

Not much. They did manage to send and receive a bunch of texts, though, so that's something.

BTW, used yer O'Bama Boy vid on youtube as me first embed EVAR.

Cool

Love the campaign photo, Spud. Reuters, I believe.

McCain is looking mighty fit. And one can see why.

she is a YEC, believes in 6000 yr old earth
she thinks ID is science
she thinks men and women don't have same rib count (remember bible story)
she doesn't want stem cell research
she against abortion no matter the reason
she won't support science programs we need to exceed in the world economy

"Not much. They did manage to send and receive a bunch of texts, though, so that's something. "
not much = 25 million, could have been better

she is a YEC, believes in 6000 yr old earth
she thinks ID is science
she thinks men and women don't have same rib count (remember bible story)
she doesn't want stem cell research
she against abortion no matter the reason
she won't support science programs we need to exceed in the world economy

Well, now we know why Dobson is thrilled and what her real qualifications for being VP are. We also now why McCain picked her: he must have been running scared that his GOP base was going to desert him, so he decided to throw them a bone.

What happens if she gets indicted before the election? Can GWB grant an emergency pardon?

(Why the fuck would McCain choose this individual? It really is kind of embarrassing and insulting.)

We also now why McCain picked her: he must have been running scared that his GOP base was going to desert him, so he decided to throw them a bone.

I don't doubt that one bit. The reports back from his focus groups asking about Lieberman and Ridge weren't good.

^^^ and as stated earlier this money comes from the fundies who wernt willing to donate to Mccain earlier. Congrats to Mccain for finally locking down a voter base willing to gouge their own eyes out before voting for any Democrat, let alone Obama

BTW - the "McCain Chooses Palin" thread blew up on me at 1397 comments. Is it working for anyone else?

McCain made a wise choice. She is going to be a great VP.
(sorry fools, sometimes the truth hurts)

Has anyone else figured out that the name Drudge Trailer Trash would better reflect the type of people we all are on here? Low life scum bag liberals one and all.

No Yav--it crashed.

But who saved this punk?

Posted by midtowncowboy at 2008-08-29 10:59 PM

The libs will try and save the trooper with the tazer over the wife and teh 11 year old stepson..

Monegan was on --oh with Shuster at MSLSD-- and Palin and her husband and staff had called him --he says 24 times and asking for the status of when the trooper was going to get fired or arrested.

The guy asked them not to call any more. I think I heard him say it was in Feb 2007 (?). Palin agreed it would not be proper for her to call him about the status and the calls stopped.

Then he wasn't doing some of his other duties--like filling trooper positions so he was fired. This was in July (must be 2007).

Doem--why would a fundy--as you put it--vote for a guy who thinks it's ok to let a baby die in the trash after surviving a botched abortion?

^^^ go back to freerepublic.

What happened to the other thread about Palin?

Did it explode after it reached 1398 posts?

I had just posted a comment to Nulli and then the whole page came up one big blank.

not meant for you murphy

MURPHY--

As i stated before, the three million is coming from the fundy base who will vote republican 98% of the time and who probably would not vote at all rather than vote for a Dem. That is why there was such an influx of money after she was announced. Its a plain fact, accept it

ok Doem

Hey the thread crashed..

McCain made a wise choice. She is going to be a great VP.
(sorry fools, sometimes the truth hurts)

the type of people we all are on here? Low life scum bag liberals one and all.

~8675309

All?

Are you calling yerself a "scum bag liberal" too?

Wow, are you one of them self-loathing types?

That's very unhealthy dude.

Did ya hear THAT Cookfish and Murphy and RtA and Rex et al?

90120 over here just called you guy "scum bag liberals".

Are you gonna take that kinda talk from him?

Or are you all chicken?

/Don't make Spud start making chicken noises in order to publicly humiliate you now, cos you know Spud'll do it.

Be Well.

McCain made a wise choice.

McCain made a very stupid, cynical, pandering and condescending choice.

She is going to be a great VP.

We won't get a chance to find out.

Her repressive positions make that reality a blessed relief.

Truth hurts?

How would you know?

You wouldn't know truth if came to yer door and delivered a singing telegram to you.

Be Well.

you guys make it so easy to stir the stank.
Good night.

"She's corrupt. So?"

- You Know Who

firing the in-law, being a woman, being against abortion, these things don't really matter to me, but it is unsettling that she believes the earth is only 6,000 yrs old and that dinosaurs walked with man. As if the Flintstones was a documentary, sorry no support from me. we need to invest in science not magic!

when mccain dies

palin can continue her search for bin laden to the gates of hell. Her autistic kid doesn't need attention.

Will Palin change her tune if her son dies in Iraq?

Vagina Vote.

Posted by Danforth at 2008-08-29 11:06 PM | Reply

Sounds like someone is jealous

Funny to see all the usual suspects get lathered over this choice for veep. You losers are really spooked and it shows.

So what if McCain went with a woman? The Dems had their chance first and decided to go anti-choice.

The Dems did something even more pathetic and dramatic: Joe Biden got what? 8 votes when he ran for president? But now he's qualified only because Osama is so completely unqualifed.

No wonder Osama introduced Grandpa Joe as "The next president of the United States." If he wins it means Biden will inherit the Cheney sock puppet duties.

"The Dems had their chance first and decided to go anti-choice."

Would someone please buy that man a dictionary?

"No wonder Osama..."

Would someone please but that man a clue?

Would someone please but that man a clue?

Posted by Danforth at 2008-08-30 03:15 AM | Reply

You know, Danny Boy, it's 4:46 in the afternoon where I live; Sunny and warm with my family all arond. Nice to know you're up in the middle of the night making non-sensical, confusing and booze-induced posts about me.

Glad I can provide you a sense of purpose in these closing days of your pointless life.

"Glad I can provide you a sense of purpose in these closing days of your pointless life."

I'm still young and vital; you, on the other hand, still seemingly don't know the difference between a Presidential candidate and a cave-dwelling terrorist.

Parade your ignorance for all to see, I don't care. Just don't get your panties in a wad when someone points out your stupidity.

Danny,

You are still the person who is awake at 5 am, alone and half drunk.

I have my gorgeous and sexy wife -- brown skin and long black hair and cute accent -- making salads. My children scurrying about. Money in the bank and investments that continue to grow -- thanks in part to fools like you.

I have three successful and interesting businesses.

Meanwhile, you have drained your liter of cheap liquor but sleep eludes you; you wonder now how early you can buy another bottle.

What's the law in your state? Will you get 2 liters of Coke and a bag of chips to create the thin facade that you are just 'shopping' at 8:03 am?

You ache for unconciousness. The only relief from your miserable lonliness.

I pity you.

how much poured into Obama's campaign after his speech?

Not much. They did manage to send and receive a bunch of texts, though, so that's something.

Posted by cookfish at 2008-08-30 12:14 AM | Reply | Flag

Not sure about the cash, but I'm sure Obama is happy with the 8-10 point bump in the polls.

"You are still the person who is awake at 5 am, alone and half drunk."

Sober, and in a different time zone. Wrong again, Vernon...thought that's nothing new.

"I have my gorgeous and sexy wife -- brown skin and long black hair and cute accent"

(Translation: Mail order bride)

"Money in the bank and investments that continue to grow -- thanks in part to fools like you."

Big deal. My primary source of income for years has been investments. Not that I haven't been working, but betting against Bush has been very lucrative.

"I have three successful and interesting businesses."

I have two, one involving stars of stage and screen, and I didn't have to leave America to succeed in them.

"Meanwhile, you have drained your liter of cheap liquor but sleep eludes you; you wonder now how early you can buy another bottle.
What's the law in your state? Will you get 2 liters of Coke and a bag of chips to create the thin facade that you are just 'shopping' at 8:03 am?"

Bwahahahahaha! I've had one glass of 90-point Zinfandel, something you can't get a mile away like I can.

"You ache for unconciousness. The only relief from your miserable lonliness."

I had a great day at rehearsal. And the bride brought home another corporate bigwig paycheck. Life couldn't be better.

"I pity you."

Good. Keep making that mistake.

"thought"= though

The Dems will blow this up. Women across the country will see this for what it sounds like. Her sister's X was an abusive cop (tasered his son in law, said his father in law would eat f ing lead if he helped his daughter get an attorney, and that he would bring the Gov. down). The good old boys at the Police Union stood behind this jerk. Go ahead Dems! Sic her.

" Her sister's X was an abusive cop"

Agreed. However, we have legal remedies for that, but Palin's administration went further. Where did her cohorts get the authority to use the power of the office of Governor to usurp the legal avenues?

"
couple of points:
1. anti pro-choice
2. the trooper probably abused sister
3. wants creationism taught alongside evolution

I don't care about point #1 or #2 (she can't reverse Roe)
but #3, lack of science training or support in a global ecomomy requiring real research, no way! especially sten cell research"

To say she can not reverse Roe v. Wade is technically correct, but there are two pro choice Supreme Court Justices that are looking to retire and are waiting for a Democrat to get elected. If McSame wins and they decide they can't wait any longer McSame, or Palin (if McCain can't perform his duties) would choose two pro-life Justices to take their place. So McSame, or Palin could be responsible for having Roe v. Wade overturned.

At a time when we need science and technology to create jobs for the next century, republicans have nominated a VP that thinks Flintstones is a documentary, she believes in a 6000 yr old earth and would love to kill science (teach creationism), a heavy believer in end times-- being close to the red button is a bit ridiculous. By the way, ask her how many ribs a man then a woman has. Check out the views of her church (Assembly of God), to her Catholics (which I am) are not Christians and will all go to hell. You don't need 3 guesses to know who I will vote for.

Strange, polls taken after her introduction show growth for Obama.

Strange, polls taken after her introduction show growth for Obama.

Like misery, ignorance loves company. Why else would this even be a thread? Let's see.... A VP pick who was third choice odds wise and people think her backround hasn't been completely cleared? Drudge versus the RNC insight? I know where my money is going on this story.

"So McSame, or Palin could be responsible for having Roe v. Wade overturned."

If you changed the word could to would I would totally agree with you. There will be vacancies to fill during the next presidential term I think is so probable that it is virtually certain.
Women especially really do need to think about their rights when they vote this time. It is easy to feel that you would not have an abortion ever but it is another to decide that your daughter can never have one no matter what the circumstances are.
This really is about taking away a basic right and not eliminating abortions because they never will be, never were, but just making them illegal and a criminal act.

How many other potential vice presidential candidates (on either side of the aisle) have been chosen while under CURRENT investigations for wrong-doing? I'm just curious.

Supreme Court, es muy importante.

Ginsberg - 75
Breyer - 70
Kennedy - 72
Stevens - 88

The next president will almost certainly be nominating one or more justices.

McCain chose Palin for veep.

Can you imagine how much damage he'd do to the Court?

This really is about taking away a basic right and not eliminating abortions because they never will be, never were, but just making them illegal and a criminal act.

This sounds word for word Obama's skewed argument about BAIPA. Any change in the current abortion laws will eventually overturn Roe V Wade. Not being naive about a change in the SCOTUS if McCain is elected. But then again there are no guarantees what the rulings will be if or when it comes up.

Is she being investigated about anything to do with abortion? How did this thread turn to Roe V Wade?

"This really is about taking away a basic right and not eliminating abortions because they never will be, never were, but just making them illegal and a criminal act."

Danni, I wonder how many people here can remember the bad old days when it was routinely reported in the morning paper that some woman was found somewhere, either bleeding to death, having bled to death or suffering from a fatal infection incurred during an illegal "backstreet" abortion attempt? I remember (and frankly, don't give a rat's a*** if that dates me!) and I do NOT want to go back to the bad old days. Ever. People CANNOT LEGISLATE MORALITY. Those who try often show us that they, themselves, have feet of clay. What we CAN do (and have done) is to insure that women and girls (sometimes very YOUNG girls) who find themselves in situations that they cannot handle for one reason or another, have a safe alternative to the backstreet abortion practitioners of old.

I wonder - will all those who rail against abortions be willing to stand up and ADOPT all those potential babies who would be born, only to be abandoned at or shortly after birth? Will they be willing to bring home a severely deformed or severly handicapped baby that will never grow up? Will they be willing to love and care for a baby that will remain an infant or very young baby/child its' entire life - and might live to be 60, 70 or 80 years old? Do these people have the emotional and monetary resources to handle these types of tragedies for LIFE? Somehow I don't think so.

What we need to do is to EDUCATE young people so we don't have unintentional pregnancies. In this day and age, there really is no excuse for anyone to become pregnant who does not wish to except in cases of incest or rape. Abstinence DOES NOT WORK. All the best intentions in the universe will not overcome Mother Nature and it is time to get serious about sex education in our schools and in our homes.

Funny to see all the usual suspects get lathered over this choice for veep. You losers are really spooked and it shows.

The woman's a noob. Every American should be spooked at the notion of putting someone two years out of running a town of 9,000 one heartbeat from the nuclear button. McCain's nuts. He only met her once prior to the past week.

McCain passed on more seasoned candidates and settled on a largely unknown figure is that putting "country first"?

He only met her once prior to the past week.

Why was she only 6-1. Third choice tied with Charlie Crist?

Danny,

You are still the person who is awake at 5 am, alone and half drunk.

I have my gorgeous and sexy wife -- brown skin and long black hair and cute accent -- making salads. My children scurrying about. Money in the bank and investments that continue to grow -- thanks in part to fools like you.

I have three successful and interesting businesses.

Meanwhile, you have drained your liter of cheap liquor but sleep eludes you; you wonder now how early you can buy another bottle.

What's the law in your state? Will you get 2 liters of Coke and a bag of chips to create the thin facade that you are just 'shopping' at 8:03 am?

You ache for unconciousness. The only relief from your miserable lonliness.

I pity you.

#67 | Posted by vernon at 2008-08-30 05:06 AM

Everybody please enjoy Vernon's finding it necessary to tell us all of this - I pity HIS family.

Women especially really do need to think about their rights when they vote this time. It is easy to feel that you would not have an abortion ever but it is another to decide that your daughter can never have one no matter what the circumstances are.
This really is about taking away a basic right and not eliminating abortions because they never will be, never were, but just making them illegal and a criminal act.

#76 | Posted by danni at 2008-08-

and not a single word about the rights or the life of that innocent soul in the womb.....that sould that SARH PALIN decided was important enough to bring to term and have even with the special needs.
but lets be sure and make sure that all the women who want to can spread those legs and then just get rid of the "PUNISHMENT">........(obamas words).....without being ' inconvienanced...........

Is that all they have to do, BLT, "spread those legs"? You seem to be missing an ingredient.

I did not bring up the abortion issue to change anyone's mind on the subject. People usually have strong beliefs behind being Pro-Choice, or being Pro-Life. What I am pointing out is that neither McCain nor Palin endorses a woman's right to choose. If women believe in a right to choose it may be something they want to consider when voting in November being that we have at least two Supreme Court Justices that will most likely retire in the next four years. Abortion seems to be a major issue that the Dems and Republicans disagree with.

BLT, you mean the baby that Governor Palin could have KILLED when she waited, after her amniotic fluid started to leak, almost 24 hours BEFORE GETTING TO THE DOCTOR? That baby? That entire story sounds very very fishy to any woman who has actually gone through labor and delivery. Amniotic fluid leaking is an emergency situation that calls for IMMEDIATE medical attention. I know because it happened to me with my second pregnancy and it is one of the warning signs a doctor ALWAYS warns a pregnant woman about. It calls for IMMEDIATE attention! A woman in such a situation does NOT wait to first, deliver a SPEECH and then fly an additional 12 HOURS to get home - just so she won't deliver her baby in TEXAS?! Come on! There was a LOT more going on there than a woman who wanted to get back to Alaska to have a baby! That baby was high risk in the first place, in the second place it was coming EARLY and in the third place, she could have become infected herself, the baby could have contracted a fatal infection - my gosh! That was one heck of a BAD decision on her part and if it is indicative of the kind of person she is, she is no way, no how a fit candidate for vice-president of the United States!

No Experience,
No Substance,
NObama!

but lets be sure and make sure that all the women who want to can spread those legs and then just get rid of the "PUNISHMENT">........(obamas words).....without being ' inconvienanced...........

#85 | Posted by bushlovertwo at 2008-08-30 12:19 PM |

No---those are YOUR words.

"But then again there are no guarantees what the rulings will be if or when it comes up."

Baloney. Future appointments by a McCain presidency would have their views on the matter examined closely so as to make their decisions quite predictable. These aren't Bush's father's brand of conservatives, these are right wing wackos who will insist on judges who share their anti-choice views.

"and not a single word about the rights or the life of that innocent soul in the womb....."

Gov. Palin's view is that even in cases of rape and incest the woman should not have the right to abort the pregnancy, do you share that part of her views BLT???

"Gov. Palin's view is that even in cases of rape and incest the woman should not have the right to abort the pregnancy, do you share that part of her views BLT???"

BLT has no problem with that view, at least not since his own womb went into hybernation mode.

She's a reformer. As long as other people are the ones being reformed. She still expects to be wield her power hower she sees fit.

"Obama... soon to be under federal corruption investigation involving Tony Rezko..."

go ahead quote the agencies doing the investigation OK? Tell us what they found.

Sorry to dissappoint you, he's not under investigation, just a right wing smear attack

believe what you wish, no need to lie, Obama is not under investigation on this issue even though you would want that, go ahead lie some more, isn't that what right wingers do "lie"!

Sarah Palin is no history buff:

Here is Palin's response to a candidate questionnaire for the Alaska 2006 gubernatorial race:

11. Are you offended by the phrase Under God-- in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?

SP: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and Ill fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance

Wikipedia on the Pledge of Allegiance:

The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy (1855-1931), a Baptist minister, a Christian Socialist, and the cousin of Socialist Utopian novelist Edward Bellamy (1850-1898).

I can't resist another pass ...

"11. Are you offended by the phrase Under God-- in the Pledge of Allegiance? Why or why not?

SP: Not on your life. If it was good enough for the founding fathers, its good enough for me and Ill fight in defense of our Pledge of Allegiance"

Missed the McCarthy era flag.

I HOPE she tried to get this guy fired, shooting a moose is one thing but tasering your step child?????? Come one people, it would be malpractice if she hadn't! Troopergate???? You've gotta be kidding, unless of course you're referring to Gov. Slick Willie Clinton from Ark who used his troopers for some pretty creative purposes!!!!! You people need to get a life

......I had never heard of her before the announcement......

......I was actually a supporter of Palin for a few days, enthusiastic that a strong, principled woman was nominated........

.........but the more I hear about her background, the more my enthusiasm wanes.........

........I mean Creationists are at best half-wits.......

.....and improperly using your office to gain familial revenge is an abuse of authority.........

......and I feel equally when Dems such as Detroit mayor Kilpatrick used 8 mil public money to try to silence whistleblowers about his smaller thefts of public money (used for holidaying with his mistress) .......

.....using public office for private business is wrong.......

So SKizziks, I can assume since you believe public office/private business is you have real problem with the Clintons???? Don't use this site as a newsource, and, don't believe half the crap on here . . . obvioulsy the dems are worried about Palin and realize that Obama is an empty suit. This was my first, and last, visit to this as it is so full of crap, reminds me of MSNBC . . . if there was antyhing to the trooper thing McCain wouldn't have picked her, and the junk about her daughter and the baby is just cruel . . . the obama folks are desperate. Good luck sorting this out but I'm all for Palin. She won me over selling the state jet and firing the state chef. We need her in Washington. Remember, Obama, who talks about reforming and getting rid of lobbyists, picked Biden whose son is a very well paid lobbyist!

****** So SKizziks, I can assume since you believe public office/private business is you have real problem with the Clintons???? 102 | Posted by aconservative *****

.......I never liked the Clintons.........

......he was an oversexed douchebag .....and she has an ambition that is greater than her desire to mend America......

.......aside from Bill's failings as a human being...he did balance the national budget and did no harm ( but not enough good ) to the nation.....

***** and realize that Obama is an empty suit.
#102 | Posted by aconservative ******

.......he graduated at the head of his class, wrote two books without ghost writers, writes his speeches, saw through the fraud of the Iraq war justifications, was class valedictarian, a law professor, had no family money-a self made man,....

......he is the anti-Bush........

......you can call him many things, but an empty suit is not one of them........

Good analysis SKizziks! Take Care!

.......thanks for dropping by Aconservative.....I hope you do stay and get to know the regulars.....

......I do not support Democrats blindly, I think that Kilpatrick ( sex-text mayor ) and Jefferson ( freezer cash) should be in jail for one.......as well as a host of others.......

.......but it was disappointing to learn that Palin was a creationist...you must admit that those people are just too dumb to be in charge of any political office higher than dog-catcher......

he graduated at the head of his class

Yes, every school year sees hundreds of people graduating head of their class. That doesn't make them qualified to run the country.

wrote two books without ghost writers, writes his speeches

Hitler also wrote a book without ghost writers, and wrote his own speeches. That isn't to say that Obama is as bad as Hitler, it is just to show that just because you can write doesn't mean you should be let near a position of power.

had no family money-a self made man

Again, the ability to make money or the fact that you inherited neither qualifies to run, nor disqualifies you from running, a country. We have had both types as President.

was class valedictorian

so was Cindy Crawford and Weird Al Yankovic. For that matter, so was Ben Stein... do you think HE is qualified for the Presidency? Just like every class that graduates has a "top of the class", every one of them has a valedictorian. That amounts to thousands of them a year... that isn't enough of a qualification for the highest position in the country.

you can call him many things, but an empty suit is not one of them

I can call him that if I want until he proves otherwise by proving he is qualified to do more than just use an engaging personality to whip up a bunch of gullible followers.

....well Moomanfl.....

.....the most important of his qualifications is that he was not fooled by the lies leading up to the Iraqi war......

......he saw through them clearly........

.......did you.?.....

**** he graduated at the head of his class

Yes, every school year sees hundreds of people graduating head of their class. That doesn't make them qualified to run the country. *******

......that makes them smarter than George Bush....

**** wrote two books without ghost writers, writes his speeches

Hitler also wrote a book without ghost writers, and wrote his own speeches. That isn't to say that Obama is as bad as Hitler, it is just to show that just because you can write doesn't mean you should be let near a position of power. *****

.......part of Obama's platform is ending an illegal war...not starting one...so that makes him morally better than Hitler and George Bush.......

had no family money-a self made man

**** Again, the ability to make money or the fact that you inherited neither qualifies to run, nor disqualifies you from running, a country. We have had both types as President. *****

.....yes indeed......but it does makes him a superior human being to George Bush in achievement ........Bush's only achievement having been born into a rich, connected family........

was class valedictorian

***** so was Cindy Crawford and Weird Al Yankovic. For that matter, so was Ben Stein... do you think HE is qualified for the Presidency? Just like every class that graduates has a "top of the class", every one of them has a valedictorian. That amounts to thousands of them a year... that isn't enough of a qualification for the highest position in the country. *****

.....it proves that he was highly regarded by his professors and peers.....
.......unlike George Bush, who lived with his homosexual lover Vincent Ashe on campus, and was a boozed up coke-headed "D" student who barely graduated........

......that makes them smarter than George Bush....

so that makes him morally better than Hitler and George Bush

Good thing George Bush isn't running for President this time.

You want us to take you seriously about politics and you don't even know who is on the ballot? Pathetic.

it proves that he was highly regarded by his professors and peers

So were those people listed above, but that doesn't make the qualified to be President. Try again.

you can call him many things, but an empty suit is not one of them

**** I can call him that if I want until he proves otherwise by proving he is qualified to do more than just use an engaging personality to whip up a bunch of gullible followers. *****

.....and yet.......

.....you would think that someone like Bush or McCain who do not have his "engaging personality"....nor his academic achievements...nor his moral rectitude ( McCain cheating on his wife, Bush bum-fucking,boozing his way through school)...nor his honest approach to the Iraq war......nor his desire to fix America, instead of fixing-up his millionaire friends......

.......somehow you feel he is less qualified than those two ?.........please........

.......McCain........

......fifth from the bottom of a class of 800......
.....cheated on his wife......
.....eager for a hundred year war.......
.....wants to keep tax cuts on millionaires at a time when the deficit threatens to strangle America......
......never had a job in his life.......
......another inbred blueblood who owns all his achievements to being born into a family of admirals.....
.......uses the socialist healthcare available to him, that he wouldn'nt allow for you.......
.......called his wife a "cunt" and "trollop" in front of reporters.......

..........and you think this man qualifies ?.....

These two?

Wow... still haven't gotten the clue that Bush isn't running.

As for cheating... any defense of Bill Clinton? After all, he cheated as well. At least McCain had the "moral rectitude" not to lie about it under oath while under investigation for other sexual misconduct.

For "boozing his way through school"... correct Obama didn't just booze his way through, he drugged his way.

You just can't help trying to tie Bush to the current ticket, because without that your candidate starts looking pretty silly as a choice.

*** As for cheating... any defense of Bill Clinton? ****

.......none whatso-ever.....I have always maintained that he was an oversexed douchebag.....

.......but.......

....he balanced the budget....something that Republicans seem incapable of ......

***** You just can't help trying to tie Bush to the current ticket, because without that your candidate starts looking pretty silly as a choice.

#117 | Posted by moomanfl ******

.....McCain is Bush's third term.......he has not articulated a single difference.....

......do you want a third term for Bush ?.......

......and how is it that Republicans can respect a man who has spent all his life on the public teat ?......

......McCain never had a job in his life .........

........where-as Obama is a self-made man........

.....Ironic that Republicans would want to be led by the product of inbreeding among bluebloods than a man who raised himself by his bootstraps........

" still haven't gotten the clue that Bush isn't running."

Of course he is...McCain was 95% percent Bush in 2007, and he's finally morphed into 100% Bush this year.

In other words, as the country has moved further and further away from Bush, McCain has moved closer and closer. The guy who used to disagree with Bush on tax cuts, Roe v Wade, and the religious right now agrees with Bush on tax cuts, Roe v Wade, the religious right, and a whole slew of other positions.

You just can't help trying to tie Bush to the current ticket, because without that your candidate starts looking pretty silly as a choice.
~ MOOMANFL

"Bomb bomb bomb, Bomb Iran"
~McSame

Speaking all for himself.......

You mean she abused her power ?
She fits right in,she is very qualified for the veep

You people watch waaaay too much Obermann . . . "McSame" . . . that's really intelligent. Now I know how Barak Hussein has such hypnotic power over you . . .

So 95% same voting record as bush last year, and 100% this year isn't "McSame"?

Obermann gets his talking points from Barak Hussein, counts them down, you guys write them down and start blogging . . . I'm voting for Senator McCain, an American hero, and for Gov. Palin, a proven reformer. You can vote for the community organizer and his left wing running mate. I have no problem with differing opinions, I'm just amazed at the hyposcrisy, and the BS, you guys come to the table with . . . not to mention the stupidity . . . "McSame"??????? Grow up!

McSame"??????? Grow up!

You didn't even catch your own self-retorting retort, hypocrite.

"Barak Hussein" is used by the same Conservative who repeatedly says the name "McSame" is stupid.

Who exactly is stupid?

Bingo Sitdown.

Loved his "Grow up!" after that!

It was Barak's Kenyan father who gave him the middle name, you guys loved to call Clinton "William Jefferson Clinton", and Quayle, J. Danforth Quayle. But for the record, anyone who drinks Obermann's koolaid, as you folks obviously do, is, well, pretty ________ing stupid! I'm voting for the hero and the reformer, you guys enjoy your chat room!

It's Barack you dumbfuck.

you guys enjoy your chat room!

We probably will enjoy it more when people like "ACONSERVATIVE" stop joining the site for one day and don't tell us who they used to be, or who is paying them (a pittance I'll bet) for doing so.

As Governor she may have had the power to fire without any reason at all. Where were you libs and your cohorts at your Pravda equivalents when the Clinton's fired every person in the travel office and gave it to their friends? Where were you for the past year regarding John Edwards sleeping his way to the bottom? Go investigate Biden and his son or Harry Remax-- Reid and his family or Nancy I dont have no stinking illegals in my vineyards or restaurants-- Pelosi and her family, Dianne Feinstein and her husband. Brian Ross is in the lead for this years Golden Goebbels for best propagandist. Lap it up little liberal kitties.

Godwin's Law strikes again. Thanks, Eric.

And Obama is 100% with Harry Reid? There is a true reformer for you. Wait, did he actually vote or was he just present?

Your welcome. Very astute observation on your part but the shoe fits so the reference is appropriate.

Eric-
re:"Very astute observation on your part but the shoe fits so the reference is appropriate."

Yeah.... couldn't agree with you more: "Brian Ross is in the lead for this years Golden Goebbels for best propagandist. Lap it up little liberal kitties."

Brian Ross is just like Goebbels.

Right.