Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Thursday, August 28, 2008

Surrounded by an enormous crowd of 84,000, Barack Obama promised a clean break from the "broken politics in Washington and the failed policies of George W. Bush" Thursday night as he accepted the Democratic nomination for president.

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Folks, this i one of those bumps in society.

kennedy killed..bump. mlk made his speech..bump.
vietnam..bump. 911..bump. john edwards hairdo...

Let OBAMARAMA begin!! lol

History has already been made --- win or lose.


Obama Poised to Make History

Doesn't McCain make history by being the oldest to lead a major party's ticket for president of the United States? Why is the MSM not highlighting that fact? Because its the "Liberal Media" that's why.

Fuck Obama... He's a milkweed puppet for the man.

WOW someone forgot to take their metamucil.

Larry

Hey, it could be worse... a HERSTORY making event.

How can blacks blame "The Man" for anything if Obama is elected?

"It's just the Man keeping us d...oh, wait."

An articulate, intelligent African-American will speak.

Can we finally listen?
Let us hope.

Be Well.

Something just dawned on Me. It happens on occasion. The appropriateness of the columns at the Mile High Stadium. MLK Jr's speech was held at the Lincoln Memorial 45 Years ago today. Doesn't the Lincoln Memorial have columns?? What better way for Obama to have as a backdrop to His acceptance speech than columns like those at the Lincoln Memorial

Larry

You forgot "clean", Skip.

Be Swelled

"... What better way for Obama to have as a backdrop to His acceptance speech than columns like those at the Lincoln Memorial
Larry
Posted by LarryMohr at 2008-08-28 07:05 PM"

"Columns, columns! Get your columns here! Ionic, Doric, Corinthian! Put a few columns in front, turn any hovel into a showplace!"
- History of the World - Part 1 by Mel Brooks

www.imdb.com

A little column levity...

I think Obama is being set up for assassination. They put Biden in as his replacement. The biggest fake liberal NEOCON on the block.

"Doesn't McCain make history by being the oldest to lead a major party's ticket for president of the United States? Why is the MSM not highlighting that fact? Because its the "Liberal Media" that's why."

Being the oldest isn't that big of a story, more of a footnote and a concern to tell the truth.

The first black major candidate is a much bigger deal.

Media bias isn't the point here.

Either that or they will pull a Bill Clinton/Monica type scenerio after he is elected, and spend 50 million in tax dollars on a farse show trial, and impeachment.
I can already see Joey B. making his pardon speech, reminiscent of Gerald Ford and Nixon.

"Liberal Media"?
If it was the liberal media, wouldn't they want to point out McCain's old age to discredit him?

Just tuned into C-Span, the weather looks perfect.

Guess Dobson's prayers for a monsoon went unanswered.

Does that mean God hates right wingers? Or does he just love the left more?

god help us if this empty suit gets elected.

I think Obama is being set up for assassination. They put Biden in as his replacement. The biggest fake liberal NEOCON on the block.

Ding Ding all aboard the Tinfoil Hat Express!

Ahhh the myth of the librul media.

The same librul media that has given McBullshit a pass on all his flip flops, his lies, his forgetfullness, his divorce, his bad temper, his pork, etc?

You mean that librul media?



Fuck Obama... He's a milkweed puppet for the man.

Posted by JeffnDenmark

Got any new conspiracy theories for us, Jeff?

So when is the boy king supposed to "make history" and accept the nomination?

Just listened to the first speech at Obamarama

How many ways can you spell "b o r i n g"???

I'll wait until later.

Hey, is Springsteen going to play tonight?
Any good groups scheduled to play?

Oh, and I just heard

I heard Obama is scheduled to make a grand entrance tonight by flying in and landing on the stage.

So, does he get his sceptre tonight, or does he have to wait until January...

"Either that or they will pull a Bill Clinton/Monica type scenerio after he is elected, and spend 50 million in tax dollars on a farse show trial, and impeachment."

You don't know how Washington works if you believe a sitting President is going to be investigated by his own party.

Reference George W. Bush if needed.

Ra speaks to the subjects

Holy crap, look at all the people!

I heard that Obama's going to "heal" a leper tonight...

...so I guess there's still hope for John Edward's political career.

Well, Farmer John, I'd say if Obama heals a leper he'll get the leper vote. Welcome to the Democratic Party.

...naaah. They're probably talkin' about Biden. He was part of the DNC's "walking dead" before the Obama people pulled his political career out of the dumpster and cleaned it up for this upcoming election.

Those hair plugs are killer... people kept mistaking him for the Fuller Brush Man...

"Boy King"?

I thought Bush was waiting to attend the Republican Convention?

you think he will talk about Ayers?

I love how he is trying to control the media from playing the commercial on him and Aryes.

Holding my sides with laughter at all the Righty posts in here about the "Messiah" et al...

Hope y'all choke on all that envy.

"All that envy...."

Yes, pretty thick in here tonight.

I won't be watching it. Another low-life political hack treated as a god. Sickening.

Ray, You don't want to hear about the change?

I also read a rumour that they're going to flood the center of Invesco Field tonight and that Obama's going to walk on water to the little island they built in the middle and accept the nomination.

Afterwords, there'll be a '34 Nuremberg style torchlight march through the streets of Denver... half the crowd singing Die Wacht am Rhein and the other half singing "We shall overcome"...

"Hey, is Springsteen going to play tonight?"

He was in Kansas City last Sunday night and he was absofuckinlootly great.

I hear he will come out wearing a robe and a stone tablet in one hand with the changed commandments.

Posted by Farmer_John at 2008-08-28 08:00 PM |

Gawd, that's hillarious, coming from the facist row of the bus.

Sorry Doc, no Springsteen. But it IS fairly likely Obama's going to Kansas City next Sunday night and give some lame speech about his racist grandmother... so if your looking for a cure for insomnia, you should make out pretty good.

Dobson's group "Focus on Family" has been praying for rain on Obama's speech today, though massive prayers were made the weather is beautiful today, God said "Buzz off Dobson", in other news it has been reported that a lightning bolt may have struck Dobson!

80,000 attending Obama's speech today, McCain can't fill tommorrows field so they are busing in people from other areas, he may get 6,000.

"I hear he will come out wearing a robe and a stone tablet in one hand with the changed commandments."

No, that was Charlaton Heston as the NRA convention.

Ray, You don't want to hear about the change?

Posted by libslayer

A politician is a politician is a politician. I'll watch the Jon Stewert version.

Guess Dobson's prayers for a monsoon went unanswered.

No he didn't... it's called "Gustav" and Karl Rove is worried:

"The Republicans cant seem to get a break when it comes to August and when it comes to the weather,-- said Rove, a FOX News analyst. I know this is being thought a lot about in Washington and at the White House and discussed and I suspect they will monitor it carefully and figure out what to do.--"

elections.foxnews.com

Here's hoping the administration handles this better than Katrina.

"80,000 attending Obama's speech today, McCain can't fill tommorrows field so they are busing in people from other areas, he may get 6,000."


We work for a living. Its easy to make the DNC when you don't have a job....

Here's a link to

LIVE STREAM Obamarama in Denver'


I'm meeting a friend for dinner, then I have to go to Home Depot and Lowe's. So I'll probably be missing the big speech.

Please let me know if he raises anyone from the dead.

We work for a living. Its easy to make the DNC when you don't have a job....

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Did he just say Obama is going to move mountains? Wow

Tell Richardson to speak English. What a fool.


lol

Listen to these right wing turds.

Don't worry, folks ... McCain will attract almost 10,000 people tomorrow when he announces that his running mate is the least experienced of the lot, but has fewer houses - and better memory - than he does.

You guys a silly little turds, most of the time. Very cute. Please keep up the entertaining posts.

"Please let me know if he raises anyone from the dead."

I'll save you some time: he won't. Why do you believe he might?

I'm meeting a friend for dinner, then I have to go to Home Depot and Lowe's. So I'll probably be missing the big speech. nPlease let me know if he raises anyone from the dead.
Posted by rightisright at 2008-08-28 08:12 PM

Typical lazy ass GOPiggy, privatizing his/her own responsibility.

So before Obama gives his speech, are there going to be some gladiators come out and fight to the death in honor of the Olympian gods or something?

He'd better do something to honor and entertain the gods, cuz Richardson's just p*ssing them off!

Oh, great, a campaign video... this wasn't shot by Obama's mistress, was it?

"'ll save you some time: he won't. Why do you believe he might?"

grass roots workers showing up to support a political movement are being called fans of a rock star by idiots, at some point the majority of Americans will consider that an insult, get off the mesiah complex or be laughed at! you are insulting real people that are getting involved!

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Chris isn't Denver in the Mountains? Wouldn't it suck if he moved the mountains and sudenly they all fell from 5000 feet above sea lvl.

"Osama is the black man"

Someone buy that man a clue.

Hey, is Springsteen going to play tonight?
Any good groups scheduled to play?

Posted by CalifChris at 2008-08-28 07:39 PM | Reply

Stevie Wonder, maybe.

But Springsteen swore off of politics after the Kerry campaign. Everyone said he was just the warm-up act for Barbra Streisand

Maybe the lesbos will honor the gods w/a spontaneous orgy...

On second thought, forget the lesbians. The DNC has got to have some of the UGLIEST women delegates on earth!


"Please let me know if he raises anyone from the dead."


I'll save you some time: he won't. Why do you believe he might?

Posted by Danforth

Insanity is why. Insanely jealous.

"Maybe the lesbos will honor the gods w/a spontaneous orgy..."

Only in your dreams, loserboy.
Better lay in an extra supply of Kleenex tonight.

Oh goody, Vernoon the racist is here.

Welcome aboard cracker.

Woo-Hoo! Stevie Wonder.

Finally, a Democrat with some VISION!

Better lay in an extra supply of Kleenex tonight.

Posted by Doc_Sarvis

He ships in hand lotion via tanker truck.

Wow... and a Nation of Islam (NOI) Security Escort for back-up singers... too cool.

...and a Chinese drummer from the Olympics in Bejing...

Wow! Do any Americans support Obama for president????

McCain will attract almost 10,000 people tomorrow when he announces that his running mate is the least experienced of the lot


Posted by midiman at 2008-08-28 08:14 PM | Reply

If Osama is going to be McCain's (least experienced of the lot) running mate it will get a bigger crowd than that.

Posted by Farmer_John at 2008-08-28 08:33 PM

That racism pustule bubbles and burns just below the surface.

...this "we are the world" thing's getting a little out of hand.

i'll agree with that...

..this "we are the world" thing's getting a little out of hand.

It's affecting your vote?

Posted by vernon at 2008-08-28 08:35 PM

Work it out, buttboy, on your pathetic VerminMisCaldculator.

Gawd, between Vermin and the other bozos the loserboys are out tonight.


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Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2008-08-28 08:27 PM | Reply

It's barely 8:30 pm and Lemming Sarvis is already, obviously, sloshed.

Try and preserve some sort of dignity (as it were) and stop posting now.

LOL! They should have invested in dance lessons for the crowd...

You know, I may not agree with Obama on many things, I may not vote for the man, but I sure as hell won't miss that historic. As a political junkie and as an American citizen I am certainly enjoying history being made.

campbell brown is hot

the loserboys are out tonight.

They wanted to know what time you're staring the meeting, Sarvis. They also wanted to know WHEN the funny part starts.

but I sure as hell won't miss that historic speech.

Someone buy that man a clue.

Posted by Danforth at 2008-08-28 08:27 PM | Reply

I was trying to be generous, because it's so important to the racist Democrats. But we all know that Osama is only half black.

Better luck next time.

carefully read all previous posts, that will help you determine which is the party of HATE!

Guess Dobson's prayers for a monsoon went unanswered.Does that mean God hates right wingers? Or does he just love the left more?Posted by 726 at 2008-08-28 07:26 PM | Reply |

Or God doesn't honor STUPID prayers.

I prayed the opposite...
And I'll NEVER vote for Obama.

change, hope, change, hope, yes we can, hope, change, hope, change

aaaaggggghhhhh!

oh, he's redeye alright...

am i the only one who believe this is a sitcom?

"Try and preserve some sort of dignity (as it were) and stop posting now.
Posted by vernon at 2008-08-28 08:39 PM"

Vermin talking about "dignity"?

FF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here comes Al



McCain will attract almost 10,000 people tomorrow when he announces that his running mate is the least experienced of the lot


Posted by midiman at 2008-08-28 08:14 PM | Reply


If Osama is going to be McCain's (least experienced of the lot) running mate it will get a bigger crowd than that.

Posted by vernon


Vern you are batting 100% on the dumbass scale!

Can't wait for you to tell me how Pawlenty is qualified to be President, while Obama is not.

I LOVE how you do the OSAMA thing! It's so cleve.

Did you think of that all by yourself?

What an f-ing stooge.


Here comes Algore!

To the tune "Let the Sun Shine!"

Dinosaurs dancing to dinosaur rock

I wonder if he'll give Tipper another 45 minute liplock?

They're getting desperate... they just unleashed their secret weapon for putting the crowd to sleep... Al Bore

Can't wait for you to tell me how Pawlenty is qualified to be President, while Obama is not.


Posted by midiman at 2008-08-28 08:45 PM | Reply

Midi gets desperate and resorts to the "McCain sucks too" arguement, but at least it's a new variation:

"Osama is not qualified for president, but hey, hey, Pawlenty is not qualified to attend the funeral of the dead leader of Micronesia."

You are CLEVE!

And the GOPiggies just unleased their bore-the-living-crap-out-of-
DR-posters-secret-weapon: Farmer John.

So... anybody care to hazard a guess as to the kind of carbon footprint this little "homage" to saving the earth is setting us back???

I wonder if Al Gore bought any of his own carbon credits to pay for this event...

Oh geeze, here he goes -- more global boring

FF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2008-08-28 08:44 PM | Reply

Another quality post from Fleishman's Vodka.

That gasbag Gore is expelling more noxious fumes than were unleashed at the Hindenberg disaster...

Algore is quickly losing the crowd, blathering on with 87-word sentnces about the "carbon fuels footprint"

Sh*t Vern, your watching with the sound turned on?

You sick, sick b*stard! How can you stand it?

I'm sure glad AL invented the internet. Where would WE be w/o him?

When I look at Obama, all I have to say is . . .
It sucks to feel like only 0.00000036% of a man.
~Vermin

He probably invented the internet as a demented toy for playing with us in his old age... he needed an audience to listen and torture with his senile bloviations

Al Gore is a decent guy. You never hear scandals or anything about him.
I highly doubt we'd be in the mess we are today if he had become Prez in 2000.

I hear that the groundskeepers have a pool as to the number of crack pipes they'll find during the after-event cleanup.

My guess is that they'll make their biggest haul from the "green room" Obama & staff are watching from...

"senile bloviations"

No, Pigophiliac, that would be Jurassic John.


he needed an audience to listen and torture with his senile bloviations

Posted by Farmer_John

You obviously believe you found that for yourself here.

Posted by CalifChris at 2008-08-28 09:03 PM |

Of course, you neve really know, do you, Chris?

But I think it's highly doubtful Gore would've replicated the Bush disaster presidency.

Think back, Chris. You ever seen one like this?

I wonder how this episode of the "Life of Barry" will score with the Nielsen people. With any luck, it just might come close to an episode of "America's got Talent" or "American Idol".

They need a panel of judges to score the speakers for the audience... and maybe we could phone in our votes/scores. I've gotta feeling McCain would be 20 points ahead for having the good sense NOT to show up...


Let OBAMARAMA begin!! lol


Posted by CalifChris at 2008-08-28 06:34 PM


And Superamamama!

You are on fire girl!

And please no liplocking on stage.


I thought Obamamama will come in like Peter Pan.

Is that the one with the flute?

Wow, the jealous really shines through, doesn't it>?

Big GOPiggy complaint: Obama's charismatic.

Such a sad, sorry little crew.

Posted by disturbed

Can't believe a racist mfker like you can still crawl around this society.

Susan looks a lot like Ike.

"He probably invented the internet as a demented toy for playing with us in his old age... he needed an audience to listen and torture with his senile bloviations"

he didn't the invent internet, but his early investments in the internet grew to over $220 million of internet stock, how did you do, dumb shit?

Il Duce, er, Hussein will make a good commiczar.

Just don't speak ill of his confidants, Bill Ayers and Rev. Dr. Wright, or he will shut down your radio station.

Can you say Hugo Hussein Chavez?

I know you can.

Is Turban Durbin next after the Eisengeek? I can hardly wait for the Obamessiah!


Susan looks a lot like Ike.
Posted by cookfish

Go ahead, jump her bones.



Can't wait for you to tell me how Pawlenty is qualified to be President, while Obama is not.


Posted by midiman at 2008-08-28 08:45 PM | Reply


Midi gets desperate and resorts to the "McCain sucks too" arguement, but at least it's a new variation:


"Osama is not qualified for president, but hey, hey, Pawlenty is not qualified to attend the funeral of the dead leader of Micronesia."


You are CLEVE!

Posted by vernon

Nice spin, vern, for a guy with his head so firmly up Bush's ass.

I am not the one making the qualifications argument, YOUR side is, so the burden isn't mine. Obama is thoroughly well qualified, as were Abe Lincoln, ronald Reagan, and Bill Clinton at their respective times. I didn't vote for the texas twit ... that was your doing. Nice work!

I don't say "McCain sucks too" - I say simply, "McCain sucks". He is a bitter, tired prisoner of the past, whose memory is failing as fast as his principles. His only hope for a win is to energize the worst among us - the types you exemplify with your sophomoric attacks and dilute drivel. He seems to be making every effort to do just that, resorting to the type of campaign guaranteed to drag out the tootless, wife beater-wearing hordes which propelled little W to the office.

I'm sure your knuckles will be dragging along with the rest of the klan. Your side may very well win.

After all, look at the moron you elected the last time out.

Posted by Farmer_John


Catch



Release

his early investments in the internet grew to over $220 million of internet stock

...then the internet stock bubble burst in 2000, and his portfolio became worth less than a single carbon credit.

Nope, Murph, that's you with the flute.
Planeted firmly up you ass.
C'mon, girl, get some dignity.

--Doc Sarvis

I think we know who needs to get a little dignity.

General Fig Newton prospered in spite of his name.

I think we know who needs to get a little dignity.
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Presidential Resume;

Community Activist, Drug dealer, Ludacris fan, Friends with terrorists, followers of racist anti semite, Real Estate investor (wink wink), 1 mediocre speech.

Vote Hussein - Biden 08!

Finally, they brought out the "Springtime for Hitler" chorus line...

"Finally, they brought out the "Springtime for Hitler" chorus line...
Posted by Farmer_John"

Someething you'll be able to relate to.
Next week: Nuremburg rallies for GOPiggies.

Finally, they brought out the "Springtime for Hitler" chorus line...

Posted by Farmer_John at 2008-08-28 09:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

You're a watery shit wrapped in skin.

Since I just atae and want to keep from upchucking,
will some please let me know if he spoke about how he sicced his Campaign staff on WGN Radio in an attempt to take away the Freedom of Speech of one of their guests and the Freedom of Press of the station to present whoever they want as guests?

Obama robots were supplied with e-mail scripts by the Obama Campaign with attack points against the guest.
When the WGN host asked any of the callers what the guest said that wasn't true, they couldn't state A SINGLE statement that he made that was not true.

All they did was continue demanding that the person be removed from the show.

Also, did he mention about how his minions had the ABC producer and cameraman who were filming big money people meeting with Democratic Party big wigs FROM A PUBLIC SIDEWALK? They were breaking NO LAWS but were charged with trespassing and disobeying a lawful order (I guess anything detremental to Obama is unlawful to report upon now). I guess THE MESSIAH owns all of Denver's public sidewalks now?

Yes, CHANGE. What a magic word. CHANGE to Chicago Thug Politics where you destroy your opponent any way you can, whether legally or illegally. And exactly how is that a CHANGE from our current administration's violations of the Constitution? Please eddify me on this, I really do want to learn the differance between Republican Gestapo tactics and Democrat Gestapo tactics.

Reminds me of the movie "A Clockwork Orange", except people are forced to watch fake autobiographies of a benevolent Barack Obama while the real one Rapes and pillages our nation.

Last but not least, did the Messiah fly around the stadium on a cloud or just float above the stage in front of Temple Obama?

Sometimes I just get Hypocrital, whatever that is. Please be more accurate when you attempt humor in the future. I will deal with you no more tonight, as I wanna watch Zeus descend on us from the sky temple.

Presidential Resume;

Community Activist, Drug dealer, Ludacris fan, Friends with terrorists, followers of racist anti semite, Real Estate investor (wink wink), 1 mediocre speech.

Vote Hussein - Biden 08!

Posted by disturbed at 2008-08-28 09:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

No wonder most of the real republicans left this site. They're embarrassed to be represented by such morons. Goldwater is spinning in his grave.

Last but not least, did the Messiah fly around the stadium on a cloud or just float above the stage in front of Temple Obama?

Posted by TheShyGuy at 2008-08-28 09:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

See what I mean?

Springtime for Obama in Afghanistan....

Taliban sneak out from the hills

Obama's straturgury it follows a Mas-ter plan

Uh-oh we've invaded Pak-is-stan....



Springtime for for Obama in Afghanistan....

"No wonder most of the real republicans left this site. They're embarrassed to be represented by such morons."

Actually, these are fine representatives of Republicans. I don't see any Republicans denouncing these dipshits.

The enthusiasm gap, in tickets

Mile High is nearly packed, and I'm told there's a long line outside. McCain aides said this week they thought they could have given out more than 200,000 tickets.

McCain's campaign, meanwhile, is reportedly struggling to fill a 12,000 seat hall tomorrow.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/
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Oh no, Biden gonna talk AGAIN. Time to check the Phillies/Cubs score.

The Fuller Brush Man speaks! Woo-Hoo!

Nice Hair Joe!

I don't see any Republicans denouncing these dipshits.

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-08-28 09:24 PM | Reply | Flag

Jeff would. But he's not here. Unless pinche or 101 wrote it, then he'd laugh.

WTF happened to the republican party? It's like they lost 20 IQ points in the last 8 years.

" I don't see any Republicans denouncing these dipshits."

Would you settle for an Independent denouncing the dipshits?

Get out your prayer rugs, and get on your knees left winger, the new messiah is here to lead you to the land of socialism.

Hussein Obama will crush all voices counter to his liberal utopia.

All 135 lbs of him.

the real one Rapes and pillages our nation.

You know, if you guys would back off a couple of notches on the rhetoric, people wouldn't just assume that you were batshit crazy.

Just saying.

There's no fewer than 3-4 abysmally stupid right wing fucks in here. Embarrassingly stupid. Epically stupid.

I wonder if Olbermann will be named secretary of state in a Hussein - Wright presidency?

Maybe Malik Shabbaz?

silver ironist- too late. They sound like Buffalo bob and the 9-11 truthers whenever Obama comes up in conversation.

Ah, all the jealous Bushbots

Jealous they have a hard time filling a 12,000 seat arena when Obama's folks thought they could have given out more than 200,000 tickets.

Jealousy is one of the seven deadly sins. The GOP has engaged in most of the rest of them.

I like Joe Biden. He's got spunk, isn't afraid to kick butt, and might help liven up the ticket.

Would you settle for an Independent denouncing the dipshits?

Posted by Danforth at 2008-08-28 09:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

lol. I am one. So...NO!

Where are the republicans?

"It's like they lost 20 IQ points in the last 8 years."

Heck, with the stupidity regarding tire gauges and all the (R) pundits denouncing tune-ups, it's like they lost 20 points in the last 8 weeks.

There's no fewer than 3-4 abysmally stupid right wing fucks in here. Embarrassingly stupid. Epically stupid.

Thank God we've got you and that wheelbarrow for your big ol' brain. Your stupid credentials have more than been established. Please do stop embarrassing yourself.

And you guys think Biden helps your savior? Hahaha!

Hussein Obama Chavez, President of the Socialist Republic of the Global Economy.

THAT is catchy, let's put it in latin around a presidential seal!

people are forced to watch fake autobiographies of a benevolent Barack Obama while the real one Rapes and pillages our nation.

~ShytownGuy

Because the Dems ostensibly are the party that starts unneccessary wars rife with real raping and pillaging, that spends the economy into the ground giving no-bid crony contractors to do-nothing war profiteers, that tries to make torture legal.

Yer hysterics have no basis in reality.

Yes, still here.

Be Well.

Disturbed,

What other names have you used when posting on The Drudge Retort?

Get that boring broad off the stage - please!

Wow. An insurance agent! I hope they get an accountant, too.

Your stupid credentials have more than been established.

Coming from you, that's kinda funny.

No, it's really funny.

I don't run around typing shit like this:

Finally, they brought out the "Springtime for Hitler" chorus line...

Posted by Farmer_John at 2008-08-28 09:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

That is stupid. And of course you don't condemn it, since it's only a slight exaggeration of your own twisted and extreme views, cookfish.

Biden You Tube

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"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result."

~Albert Einstein.

"If we elect John McCain then according to Einstein we'd be insane."

Luffs it.

Be Well.

Nope, they get a chunky pet shop owner that obviously eats her merchandise.

McCain is so screwed that Bob Dole just called him to express his sympathy.

Disturbed,

What other names have you used when posting on The Drudge Retort?

Posted by Danforth at 2008-08-28 09:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's rex zeitgeist. Or some PWZ clown.

Please do stop embarrassing yourself.

Posted by cookfish at 2008-08-28 09:30 PM | Reply | Flag

That's exactly what I think every time I see one of your posts, cook. They're always retarded.

I just came all over myself. I'll tell you later how great Basrry was.

Sincerely, A " time delay" U

Maybe some of you snarks should head to Dayton.

They're having a hard time giving away 10,000 tickets to tomorrow night's McCain event. They'll probably end up busing in street people from Cincinnati.

You snarks have no idea how ridiculous your petty jealously sounds.

And of course you don't condemn it, since it's only a slight exaggeration of your own twisted and extreme views, cookfish.

I flagged it as funny, actually. Cheer up, good sir. This is supposed to be your time to shine, remember? Ha!

Wake me up when the band starts.

" PWZ clown."

You're being redundant.

The only thing Biden has been correct about in this election is the fact that Czar Hussein isn't fit to lead a girl scout troop.

But Biden does bring .04% of the vote with him, so, he has that going for him.

The shade of that lady's blue outfit is not a color found in nature.

None of these last few female speakers are in need food stamps, that's for sure.


Wake me up when the band starts.


Posted by CalifChris

Did former President Clinton book the Sex Pistols?

Wait till you hear what's happening to me

Hopefully euthanasia

McCan is so screwed that Bob Dole just called him to express his sympathy.
Posted by rcade"

BOB: You know I got my armed fucked up the war?
JOHN: Yeah. Did you know I was a POW?
BOB: Your arm?
JOHN: No, a POW.
BOB: What's your arm got to do with being a POW?
JOHN: I forget...I get confused sometimes.
BOB: Might have to do with your arm injury, like mine.
JOHN: No, I was a POW.
BOB: Well, whatever our differences we're both MIA.

I wonder if Hussein will name Brother Chavez to the newly created 'Board of News Fairness Doctrine'?

Birds of a feather and what not.

Then Ayers can bomb it.

did the Messiah fly around the stadium on a cloud or just float above the stage in front of Temple Obama?

~SG

The reason RTs harp on Obama's popularity is to distract from the fact that their candidate is deeply unpopular not only amongst Dems and Indy's but within his own party as well.

Obama fills an 80,000 person stadium to SRO, actually turning some folks away.

McCain meanwhile is bribing winos to fill buses to try and get a crowd of 10,000 fer his gig.

Obama aint no Messiah.

He's just really likable.

Inspirational, intelligent, a faithful husband, and a natural leader.

Too bad about yer guy there.

^_^

G08ama!

Be Well.

/Ooh an Obamacon! In the flesh!!
//See Spud tole you they was real!

I flagged it as funny, actually.
Posted by cookfish at 2008-08-28 09:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Surprise. A moron flags a nazi reference to Obama as funny.

Maybe John McCain can rent some Nursing home patients to fill the place John McCain is supposed to announce His walker mate. Hey He could offer them up some free eats and the local shoney's

Larry

Barney Smith before Smith Barney...Awesome.
I wonder if he wrote that?

Barney Smith hasn't worked for 4 years. What a representative of Obama followers.

God bless you Barney Smith!

Maybe the RNC convention can be at a motorcycle rally. They might get more than 10,000 people that way.

Then Cindy can flash the crowd while tom brokaw reads from the republican cue cards.

"A President who puts Barney Smith before Smith Barney."

LOL

Be Well.

Hussein's big speech, 'Hope.....Change.....Bush', er, 'Hope.....CHANGE.....McCain', er, uh, uh ,er, uh, 'Hope.....Change,......uh, er......Audacity of, er um, anyone but Wright?'

"Thank you Global Audience!"

Your hurtful comments just make you appear very bitter, Alex. You need to get out, maybe with Danforth, and go dirty dancing or something. You guys are just wound too tight.

Dethspud, you need to check who Smith Barney gave the most money to.

Your stupid comments make you appear very idiotic, cookfish. Maybe you need to go read a book.

Roadie: Barry, the teleprompters are on the fritz.

Barry:

Then Cindy can flash the crowd

And dance!

John works the polls while Sindy McTrollop (her stage name) works another type of pole entirely.

Be Well.


How many fat ugly lesbians dykes does the "American Voices" program have? Posted by Farmer_John

I dunno.
How many are you fantasizing about?


Your stupid comments make you appear very idiotic, cookfish. Maybe you need to go read a book.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2008-08-28 09:46 PM | Reply

Would He know which way to hold the book??

Larry

I think the crowd needs to light their Bics and start screaming "Encore!"...

Wow, "mother" jokes, Alex? You ARE a bitter lad, aren't you?

Ithink the crowd needs to light their Bics and start screaming "Encore!"...
Posted by Farmer_John

I think you need to check out the side effects of absinthe.

8 years of troglodytes like you running the country into the ground, cookfish.

It's not funny or cute anymore. Neither are you.

it was fuckin funny, tho...

FF Alex

Posted by cookfish


No, you're just an exceptionally dumbshit poster.

X+1 where 1 equals your mother.

And X equals your entire family for the past 16 generations...

And X equals your entire family for the past 16 generations...

Posted by Farmer_John at 2008-08-28 09:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

Shhh, it's a secret!

Roadie: At Dave and Buster's in Schaumburg, I heard the McCain Camp was going to bring up your Illinois voting recored.

I've been there. Had Chicken. I have the menu to prove it.

'Il Duce, I mean, Czar Hussein', 'Please tell us about your great accomplishments.'

'Well I did organize a community watch, and I voted present 100's of times in the state senate, and did I ever tell you about the time I sold 9 oz of really pure coke?'

8 years of troglodytes like you running the country into the ground, cookfish.


It's not funny or cute anymore. Neither are you.

The bitterness is taking over what's left of your soul, and your comments are getting even nastier. Are you going to insult MY mother, too? Can't you think on your feet?

OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA

Poor disturbed. His escort for the night cancelled when the check bounced, now he's stuck at home listening to Obama.

'I love that sonofabitch more then a boston crab cake', Matt Damon

Dethspud, you need to check who Smith Barney gave the most money to

Yes, yes, they're all corporate whores to some degree at that level ya schmuck. The only realistic question is are they totally co-opted or not. John McCain through his flip-flops and about faces has shown exactly wot a meat puppet he is. He's proven himself incapable of leading, his policies are re-cycled BushCo re-writes for the most part. He's a dangerous, war mongering tool of the worst elements of the MIC and the religious right.

Barack Obama is different.

Not as co-opted.

Not as beholden.

The experience argument from the start has been a deflection from the fact that McCain's too old, too bent, too angry and too steeped in the ways of FAIL. That too much time in DC may be ultimately more dangerous than too little. As proven by Cheney and Rumsfeld and the other BushCo Nixon refugees.

G08ama.

Be Well.

YEs I Would, LaRry do You thInk You are FUnny or sOmething caUse Your not LaRry but Do tRy aGain.

Posted by cookfish at 2008-08-28 09:52 PM | Reply

Self Retorting Retort. Funny Dat Be.

Larry

What a total Dick.

Are you going to insult MY mother, too?

After what the poor woman went through with a special needs child? No.

In case sarcasm is lost on the net: I'm not angry, I'm disappointed over how predictably hollow and vapid the right wing comments about Obama are...so I'm returning the favor.

So, are they attempting mass hypnosis on the crowd???

watch the flags as they move backward and forward...

backward and forward.

They must be trying to implant some form of post-hypnotic auto-suggestion:

"Obama is not incompetent.... really... no really!... he IS competent... don't laugh..."

Durbin, not you, LaRrY. You're just a minimal dick.

HALLELUJIAH! THE OBAMESSIAH!!!!!!!

ALL HAIL THE OBAMESSIAH!!!!!

Oh, cr*p... Turban Dick Durbin. WHAT a let-down!

Obama bin Biden in '08!

"The bitterness is taking over what's left of your soul, and your comments are getting even nastier."

You've already accomplished that for yourself fish

My purposefully dumb and mean comments are "bitter"
but it's perfectly acceptable for the righties here to act like apes. Typical double standard.

I'm not angry

No, you just insult people's mothers because you're at such peace with yourself. Get help. Now.

'And one day....A light shall shine down upon you....and you WILL have an epiphany, on that day, you WILL buy a short gram for $15 from Hussein Obama.' spoke the enlightened one.

OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA

Of course, If no one punches back, then the left is a bunch of pussies. What a very nice self fulfilling prophecy you guys have going. Heads you win, tails we lose. The MSM works the same. I can't wait to compare the MSM coverage of the dem covention to the rep one.

This guy is more of a snoozer than Biden.

No, you just insult people's mothers because you're at such peace with yourself. Get help. Now.

Posted by cookfish at 2008-08-28 10:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sez the guy who flagged a hitler Obama comment as funny.

You really have no sense of self reflection, do you?

*pokes his head in* Wow. Dick Durbin? Man, they must be having trouble with the teleprompters, to drag it out this much.

HALLELUJIAH...

HALLELUJIAH...

And the SKY Opened up...

and the Immaculate One was born..

They say He was originally looking for a black virgin... but had to settle for Barack's mom...

You really have no sense of self reflection, do you?

You really have no sense of humor, do you, you bitter old toadstool?

Just heard Obama's speech is suppose to run 30 minutes but with expected applause it's suppose to be a total of about 50 minutes. I hope Obama's speech isn't just more platitudes, pie in the sky, and more crap about "hope, change, hope, change." I want to hear specifics on exactly WHAT Obama's going to change and just WHAT Obama plans on doing. We'll see. I'll wait for his speech to hear what he has to say.

They say He was originally looking for a black virgin... but had to settle for Barack's mom...

Posted by Farmer_John at 2008-08-28 10:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Now watch cookfish ignore THIS mom joke, like the typical little hypocrite he is.

Early Barack looks like Tito Jackson.

I don't mean to be unkind to Michelle Obama, but does she have slight case of marfans disease?

Now watch cookfish ignore THIS mom joke, like the typical little hypocrite he is.

You're now entering the obsession zone, Alex. Danforth will take your coat.

but it's perfectly acceptable for the righties here to act like apes.
Posted by Alexandrite

I'd call that a Republican crossover vote.

You watching this film?!?

"Barak Obama, now that's a killer" (of a bad name)

Sounds like a 2008 prophecy for this election.

I want to hear specifics on exactly WHAT Obama's going to change and just WHAT Obama plans on doing. We'll see. I'll wait for his speech to hear what he has to say.

Posted by CalifChris at 2008-08-28 10:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

What country do you live in? We haven't had a candidate give a true policy speech in forever. You want that info, go to the candidate's respective websites.

Hell, even the debates are devoid of specific policy answers. You're expecting different from a convention? "pie in the sky" and "my opponent sucks" are all these guys(red or dem) do nowadays. I blame the media for making it all about soundbites over substance.

"I don't mean to be unkind to Michelle Obama..."

Sure you don't, douchebag.

CC--let's compare notes as I doubt he will be specific on issues.

I will have to leave and pick up Dylan from practice--should be on the radio.

Cookfish- I see farmer john didn't get one of your speeches. So please...next time keep your faux outrage to yourself, partisan.

FF Wis!

How true, Alexandrite, how true.
Especially with your comment about the media.

We have become the "soundbite nation"

..and I only could afford to eat cold gruel when I was at Harvard (sniff)

--Barry

Hey, why didn't they play the rest of his Bio tape???

Oh, crotch shots of Michelle... MUCH better!!!

Yup, just a wee touch of the Marfan syndrome in those cheeks.

Sorry to be a downer, CC. But you're expecting a lot out of either candidate or the media.

Any speeches on specifics gets canned for a soundbite fest. These are the new rules, and both party's play along because they'd lose the election otherwise.


FF Wis!

Posted by cookfish

Thanks, Cookfish. I now see how Hitler bullshitted Germany.

Showtime.

Time to shine.

G08ama!

Be Well.

I now see how Hitler bullshitted Germany.

Posted by wisgod at 2008-08-28 10:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

9-11. Erm, I mean Reichstag.

FINALLY, THE CHOSEN ONE!

Hey, he didn't walk on water... WHAT a let-down!

'Bout fuckin' time this uppity Negro got on stage...

/kidding

OMG, here comes Czar Hussein, I'm going to wet myself.

Those columns look NOTHING like the Lincoln Memorial.

Oh, crotch shots of Michelle... MUCH better!!!

Posted by Farmer_John at 2008-08-28 10:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

Than your youtube poop? Hell yeah.

Thanks, Cookfish. I now see how Hitler bullshitted Germany.

He too had little experience and made great speeches.

He's like: "Thank you everybody, please sit down and STFU."

He too had little experience and made great speeches.

Posted by cookfish at 2008-08-28 10:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

Like W?

Now why isn't Hillary giving this speech?

CC--let's compare notes as I doubt he will be specific on issues.

I will have to leave and pick up Dylan from practice--should be on the radio.

Posted by MURPHY at 2008-08-28 10:0

Okay. I do know that anything Obama does for the people of our country will be more than Bush has done in the last 8 years. Bush has done nothing but take, take, and take, and given nothing back to the peole of this nation.

Jump back on here when you get back.
Nulli needs someone to get his blood boiling. lol

To Ted Kennedy, who embodies the spirit of service...

More like the service of spirits.

Obama's little girls are adorable and his wife is very pretty.

Chris, Bush is a moot point now.

Chris, Bush is a moot point now.

Posted by disturbed at 2008-08-28 10:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

But you mentioned hillary? Bush is still prez. Hill is nada.

So far we have had, change and Bush, when is he going to break 'hope' out of the bag?

"Nulli needs someone to get his blood boiling. lol"

Just wait, Chris.

Yea, lots of republicans are going to be voting for Hussein.

But you mentioned hillary? Bush is still prez. Hill is nada.

I think when Obama gets elected, he will kick that bitch to the curb.

wonder who gave him the 8 is enough line?

So far he's hitting hard -- good. He needed to get tougher.

"Eight is enough!"

Clever girl.

Just wait, Chris.

Posted by nullifidian

'Evening, sweetie. lol

"Bush is a moot point now."

McCain wants to continue Bush's tax cuts for the wealthiest, Bush's views on torture, and Bush's plan to privatize Social Security. Maverick McCain used to be against all these. Candidate McCain is Bush 44.

Sorry about that....bar rag....be back in a few.
Sincerely, AU (performing at Slippery's Tavern).

So Obama was only with Bush 50% of the time but only the Senate for 140 days of voting--think of what the percentage would be if he'd been there for the last 8 years?

Be careful when quoting people who are no longer with the campaign.

"-think of what the percentage would be if he'd been there for the last 8 years?"

Don't understand the definition of "percentage", do you?

Hit McCain. Hit him hard.

Man, conventions suck. They are just big sales meetings.

Our side rocks! The other side sucks! Our side is going to kick the other side's butt!

Misrepresenting McCain policy proposals..


Obama doesn't get it--doesnt get elected POTUS either....

Man, conventions suck. They are just big sales meetings.

more like a pep rally.

This is wonderful. I got back earlier than I thought, and I'll be able to see the greatest political event of the last thousand years.

Good thing it's in Mile High Stadium. I was just thinking a few weeks ago how impossible it would be to cram Obama's aura into an arena that can only hold 20,000 people.

This is much better, a big venue, outdoors. The eagles soaring overhead, the beasts of the field, can hear his voice, and rejoice. Like the rest of us.

STFU Barak and talk about YOU!!!!

He's minutes into this and he can't SHUT UP about McCain.

Seriously, WHO's advising him!!!

The 45th anniversary of MLK's speech and THIS is his speech.

Obama's hitting some solid and important issues right on the head.
Good for him.

"It's time for them to OWN their FAILure.

It's time for us to change America

And that's why I'm running for the President of the United States."

~Barack Obama

Obama fucking pwns them GOPher fucks.

Sweet.

G08ama.

Be Well.

This is a massive yawner.

Nothing we couldn't see at a parents/teachers conference in Chicago 3 years ago.

He isn't going to get in the way of factory workers losing jobs. That ship sailed already.

He also isn't going to help that poor waitress. He simply can't.

Pep rallies with brain washing tied in. Rally the troops to go kick butt and try to make converts.

And again, why isn't Hillary givinig this speech?

The republican peanut gallery is more amusing than usual this evening.

err, is that the same grandmother Obama threw under the bus while praising Reverend Wright?

"It's not that McCain doesn't care, he just doesn't know."

"He just doesn't get it"

Strewth.

Be Well.

And before anybody gets on me, the same goes for the Republican convention.

Typical white people.

I could listen to MLK's "I have a Dream" right now and still get inspired.

NOBODY will be replaying THIS speech 45 years from now (so far).

This is his *best* shot at winning!

He is going to cut capital gains taxes?

SHUT UP about McCain

~Kirk

And while yer at it Leave Britney Alone!!!EleventyOne!1!11

~Kirk's Evil Twin

Be Well.

I guess every small business that makes (gross) $250,000, is going to get screwed in Czar Husseins America.

Who is the "new" troll named Disturbed?

Promises = Money. Change we can all agree on. What a fucking hack.

The cockroaches are coming out.

Funny. All these new snarks, all the old snarks, and some idiots in who think because they inherited they're doing well and ridicule.

Bore. Ring.

Spud,

I've never *more open* to this guy than tonight. He's got a fargain' legacy possible with MLK's speech today and he's punting.

This speech so far is like every other stump speech I've heard from him.

He could kick McCain's ass in speeches, but NOT SO FAR!

He's better than this!

"I guess every small business that makes (gross) $250,000, is going to get screwed in Czar Husseins America."

I guess "Disturbed" either hasn't been listening, or doesn't know the difference between "gross" and "net".

ooohhhh, touche, touche, touche!

they inherited they're doing well and ridicule.


Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Translation: Mom and Dad nerver liked me. They were Repubtards.

I do wish he would talk about prosecuting Bin Laden instead of just blowing him away. Kind of the democratic process, no? For the biggest crime on our soil? Constitutional justice- not the Wild West. That's one of the things that we need 'change' from..

"We need a President who can face the threats of the future, not keep grasping at the ideas of the past."

~BHO

Is good speech.

Be Well.

Best speech I've heard Obama give.


Who is the "new" troll named Disturbed?

Posted by nullifidian

Obviously someone who doesn't understand the difference between personal income tax and business taxes.

err, is that the same grandmother Obama threw under the bus while praising Reverend Wright?

~CC

There is no bus.

Let yer RT talking points go, Chris.

Be Well.

If McCain spends this much of HIS speech on Obama, I'll say the same thing (only Obama's got soooo much more potential--McCain could probably never fill that stadium).


Best speech I've heard Obama give.


Posted by CalifChris

Did you really think he'd lay an egg? If my vote was based on speeches....

Yeah Gross is the mentality of some of the Right Wingers and Net is what is needed to sweep them from the genepool

Larry

Hour plus late now.

Really gotsta get.

Back later.

Be Well.

/G08ama!
//USA! USA! USA!

He's punting...
Thanks for throwing me a bone on reducing the number of abortions though, Barak.

"It's about you. But I'm the one gonna rule ya."

--Barry

He might punt all the way to winning the Superbowl.

He's punting...
Thanks for throwing me a bone on reducing the number of abortions though, Barak.

Posted by kirk at 2008-08-28 10:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Never understood how Conservatives could be against abortion, and at the same time against birthcontrol education. Maybe you can explain that one to me, Cameron?

Oh Hell
Que the LOVE Train song again and Again
I feel the Change

Would you rather it was about THEM and they're gonna rule you? Sheesh!

Tater

~CC

There is no bus.

Let yer RT talking points go, Chris.

I don't need any talking points. I have ears and eyes of my own and a brain to formulate my own opinions about what I see and hear. I like many of Obama's proposals. I also heard what Obama said about his Grandmother while praising the sleezy Reverend Wright and I didn't need Rush or Hannity to tell me what impression it was suppose to make. I'm no right wing lemming. But Obama is human and you Obamafanatics grovel to the point of making regular people puke. Obama is a human being and a regular guy. Obama has done some very good things and he has also made some mistakes. When you try to make Obama omnipotent you look ridiculous. Don't worry, I'm not voting for McCain.

This is NOT his best speech. The two or three he gave to clarify and re-clarify his positions on race, religion and Wright were much better. Even though he really didn't clarify much in the end.

McCain is in trouble.

Terrific speech tonight. Best I've heard Obama give so far and he nailed point after point.
He'll probably go up a few points in the polls with people after tonight.

That's it? Hahahahaha! Break out the celebrities and rock stars! THAT SUCKED!

If my vote was based on speeches....

Posted by wisgod at 2008-08-28 10:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Too bad it wasn't. Might have saved you from voting W twice.


Can some of you liberals here be *honest* and admit you're disappointed?

Or was *that* what you were looking for?

Even that cornpone speech he gave in Iowa was better.

Not Obama's best speech inho. But damn good.

I can see the NY POST tomorrow:

The Lost Temple of Obama

Look out McCain

People bitch "Obama doesn't give specifics" and then they bitch when he does.

Fuckin' brilliant speech.

Get a load of the petty sniping losers on this blog.

They just lost an election, and they know it.

AU, you serious?

This is the highest Obama can soar?

That blew goats.

I thought he was going to do MUCH better.

At least he mentioned 9/11.

He needs to get some different advisers.

pussy Pelosi -- get her off the stage

I want The Boss!

"Born in the U S A"

Kirk-
fuckin' loser. Name a specific point or quit your mewling. He flayed you open and set you on fire p[oint by point and AT THE SAME TIME delivered a message of a positive future with passion and conviction.

My concern that Obama will win is at the *lowest* it has ever been.

Fuckin' brilliant speech.

Saying McCain thinks anyone making under five million is middle class? His first ten minutes about McCain, Bush and Company went over every talking point posted on Drudge. It certainly wasn't anything the media built it up to be. They were looking for the second coming of MLK and it was nothing close.

Did you really think he'd lay an egg? If my vote was based on speeches....

Posted by wisgod

Translation: My vote is based on an "R" after their name.

Obama hit McCain, Bush, and the republican congress HARD and did so from a defensive position of grace and humility. Amazing stuff.

I can't wait to hear McCain's rebuttal at the republican convention.

oh please...

once again, he promised change. wtf does he mean by that? he NEVER elaborated, yet there were weeping obamatrons throughout the audience.

My concern that Obama will win is at the *lowest* it has ever been.

I think the betting lines will go down a bit on Obama.

Obama gave almost 30 pledges in that speech, nanc. I guess you missed them.

p.s. - get used to saying "president mccain".

he NEVER elaborated

Posted by nanc

If you hadn't had your fingers in your ears you would have heard elaboration.

My prediction of the RNC speeches:

9-11
POW
Iraq
Iran
Offshore drilling
terror(war on)
socialism

Not mentioned:

Afghanistan
Osama bin laden
Georgia
Katrina
FEMA
DHS

C'mon, be real for a minute, that was mediocre at best, a snoozefest at worst.

This guy isn't ready for a second term as a junior senator, let alone the top job in the world.

It was brilliant.I have yet to hear anything substantive from the whining choir who have McBush as an alternative.

He hit everything, and well.

You whining bitches in the peanut gallery are screwed, and if you don't know it yet, that's your problem.

Laundry list--things sound different on the radio--no visual hype.

He misrepresented McCain on most everything--don't worry--McCain will do the same to Obama..

He had the same platitudes and did some specifics and then misrepresented McCain. On taxes, and energy.

I agree with him on schools and teachers--but the problem is with the gov't and he wants to grow it.

Why hasn't he passed a law to allow hospitals allow gays to see eachother in the hospital?

"Hope we confess?" What does that mean?

It was a good show--same liberal talking points given by a gifted speaker.

Kirk, disturbedrex, cookfish, and nanc think Obama stunk.

I'm sold: It was a great speech and they're worried that McCain is gonna shit a square egg when it's his turn.

PS- He will, "my friends".

It was a good speech. Not his best, but good enough for prime time national television.

You righties keep on dreaming and listening to the voices in your heads.

Oh, and keep voting against your own best interests.

Incredible night for the Democrats. Obama was a lot tougher than I expected him to be, but it worked. He took every one of McCain's attack lines and turned them around on him.

It was a virtuoso performance. If I didn't know better I'd think we were Republicans. Democrats have never been this good at presidential campaigns in my entire life.

Pretty thin-skinned, BetelG.
Maybe you're the loser.
I freakin' labelled my problems with Obama.

I'll give you one real clear that a product of public education and too much Oprah watching can understand:
Obama had a record crowd and he spent that opportunity (plus MLK's Dream speech anniversary) picking on McCain with OLD criticisms he's used before in his stump speeches adding *nothing* new in terms of inspiration.

If you can neither understand that nor discern that then YOU (and possibly your candidate) are the loser.

I freaking admit when I or my candidate are wrong/lacking. You should do the same.

He hit everything, and well.

He lied through his teeth about McCain and middle class wages. No better than the lie about being in Iraq for a hundred years.

He misrepresented McCain on most everything

He really didn't. McCain and co have tried to paint obama as an elitist and celebrity. McCain fits that bill more than Obama.

Also, he's voted with bush 95% of the time. Spent 26 years in congress and voted against CAFE standards. Oops.

Obama needs to point out that McCain is a hothead.

But Obama had the grace not to point out McCains vote against MLK day as a holiday...and john's recent lie about being for it.

Rogers, buddy, I love ya man......but you should have named yourself Rogers Hyberbolehead.

LOL. I'm lovin this:

"a snoozefest"

LOL

Obama rocked. And I have yet to hear anything but nonsense from those whose fragile windows he shook to the point of shattering.

Obama was a lot tougher than I expected him to be, but it worked. He took every one of McCain's attack lines and turned them around on him.

Exactly. I loved it.

Especially the lines about McCain being a good guy, but just not getting it. Being out of touch.

Hey rogers-

Disturbed = rex zeitgeist. : D

"Obama had a record crowd and he spent that opportunity (plus MLK's Dream speech anniversary) picking on McCain with OLD criticisms he's used before in his stump speeches adding *nothing* new in terms of inspiration."

...and if he had brought up MLK he would now be accused of playing the race card....

Truth..

He rocked!

"Distrurbed"-
Who the fuck are you? And will you ever type anything worth reading? A "snoozefest"? What a sore loser. Obama curt McCain/Bush into several pieces respectfully and convincingly. And with force, and appropriate anger, and with a vision that your party can only seem to muster for 2% of the population.

We all have a little Zeitgeist in us.

Alex--Mac has said he was mistaken and sorry for not voting for MLK day.

Obama missed McCain on taxes--he doesn't want to raise people's taxes period.

Obama does like all good liberals--and once they start they can't stop themselves.

The Repubs have their problems with spending and charging the credit card to the deficit.

But to Mac's credit--he is a penny pincher and won't let spending get crazy--he hates pork.

But Obama wants to tax folks and if elected my taxes will sky rocket.

Alex--Mac has said he was mistaken and sorry for not voting for MLK day.

After he said he was for it?

But to Mac's credit--he is a penny pincher and won't let spending get crazy--he hates pork.

ROFL! Shall we go over his wife's credit card bills? What kinda traditional household is the MAN of the house running over there?

Democrats have never been this good at presidential campaigns in my entire life.

Could be 1948 all over again.

Sincerely,
Thomas Dewey

We all have a little Zeitgeist in us.

Posted by disturbed at 2008-08-28 11:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Thank God our assholes push it out once a day.

" if elected my taxes will sky rocket.

Posted by MURPHY"

I hope so. You deserve it.

Best damn political speech I've seen in my lifetime. He did EXACTLY what he needed to do and even surprised me with more.

It will be remembered as a high watermark of political speech for years to come.

Fuckin' brilliant.

I thought it was one of the speeches of a lifetime. I really have no idea what some of the DR righties think they saw. What they're doing can only be seen as an attempt to spin it down, typical DR righty bullshit.

I think Obama got through to a lot of people tonight. Now, Barack just needs to keep it rolling until November.

"Why hasn't he passed a law to allow hospitals allow gays to see eachother in the hospital?"

Don't you think that the more pertinent question is why do conservatives oppose legislation that would allow it, whom you generally support????
Please explain how you justify voting for a politician opposed to civil unions.

"Now, Barack just needs to keep it rolling until November."

WE have to keep it rolling. Emphasis on WE!

*I* wouldn't have accused him of playing the race card.

I laid out my problems, I'll start taking bets tomorrow after McCain names his VP pick.

Maybe Obama has too many asshole advisers like BetelG who jsut say "attack attack attack!" And call people "fuckin' losers."

once again, he promised change. wtf does he mean by that? he NEVER elaborated, yet there were weeping obamatrons throughout the audience.

Posted by nanc at 2008-08-28 11:16 PM | Reply

Hunny I'd much rather weep tears of joy and warmth for Barack Obama than I would be "Weeping" into a pair of Depends with john McCain.

Larry

if elected my taxes will sky rocket.

Posted by MURPHY

I'm glad to hear you're making so much money. Congratulations on your financial success!

McCain Still Trying to Find Spectators

According to the Dayton Daily News, Sen. John McCain is still giving away tickets to his Friday rally where he will unveil his running mate. He's having trouble filling a 10,000 seat arena.

And two years into the reign of Czar Hussein.

Careful what you wish for, you might just get it.

Murphy-
re: "But Obama wants to tax folks and if elected my taxes will sky rocket."

How much do you make? Obama's plan lowers taxes for 95% of the population, and only raises taxes for the top 5% to pre-Bush levels, while closing loopholes for corporations who are currently rewarded for sending jobs overseas.

You don't seem to have been given factual information.

What they're doing can only be seen as an attempt to spin it down, typical DR right

Seems like it to me, too. They know they're going up against the Democratic Reagan, and McCain could live another 200 years and not deliver a speech with that kind of rhetorical and political heft. All they can hope for is that a combination of Rovian smear attacks and diehard Republican voters are enough to squeak this one out.

I don't see it happening, though. Even as a person whose default position is to expect the Democrats to lose, I am as confident as I've ever been in my life of a Democratic victory in a presidential race.

"if elected my taxes will sky rocket."

How, exactly?

"You don't seem to have been given factual information."

That's never stopped Murphy in the past.

Posted by danni at 2008-08-28 11:32 PM

I stand corrected. WE!

"Distrurbed"-
re: Hussein

That's clever. You have no point to make of any value, so you rely on the trite and cheap:

"I have no positive thing to say about the last eight years, or about McCain, so I'll just call Obama "Hussein" and pretend that that will work"

Sorry. It won't, and only further reveals you as a retard without any substance.

NOBODY will be watching THAT speech in 40 years.

"Rogers, buddy, I love ya man......but you should have named yourself Rogers Hyberbolehead.

Posted by disturbed at 2008-08-28 11:24 PM"

Hi Disturbed.

Always glad to see a "new" face ;-)!

With your flair for hard-hitting commentary, I'll be EAGERLY awaiting your review of next week's convention.

Hope that event doesn't "rain" on your parade!

I lost count at 38 promises. Also his words don't match his actions.

You lefties didn't see that he was leaning to the middle with this speech.

MURHPY

If your husband nets over $250,000 a year you don't need a tax cut.

For the other 90% of Americans who will get a larger tax cut than McCain proposes, why would you vote against your best interests by voting for McCain?

If you want the rhetorical left Rogers, you got it tonight. Is it really what you want for your children?

There is a better then 50/50 chance that Obama is going to be the next President of the United States, the leader of the free world.

A President facing nuclear despots, terrorists, and economic hardships.

Ask yourself, is the ideal the reality?

Kirk- in 40 years they'll be showing this speech:

www.youtube.com

NOBODY will be watching THAT speech in 40 years.

My daughters will be showing THEIR families that speach in 40 years.


Obama BaRAWKED!

Wait! I've been contaminated!

The boy did good. I'm glad to see him give a more substantive than inspiring speech, one that repositions him back to his more moderate, God-fearing, pragmatic change agent position, while promoting traditional lefty policy, my favorite kind.

Great job being tough, too. I think he was packing heat.

And a great compliment to Hillary, stealing her "it's not about me, it's about you", line that let her close so strong in middle America where he needs help.

He helped himself tonight.


You lefties didn't see that he was leaning to the middle with this speech.

Posted by libslayer at 2008-08-28 11:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

Leaning to the middle after these last 8 years IS going to the left. Fine with me.

That was the best speech I have ever heard live in my entire life.

And to answer Nanc, he elaborated precisely on change. Change is doing the exact opposite of what Bush did or would do.

Change is the exact opposite of what neocon GOP hacks have been doing to America for the last 8 years. Go watch the speech again.

But America saw that speech, you can't put the genie back in the bottle. Millions of people all over America just saw the most amazing thing they may ever see, and nothing you say can touch that.


Next week McCain is going to look like a miserly old toad, yelling at the kids to get off his damn lawn, compared to what happened tonight.

I think Obama is going to get that 15 point bounce.

Danni--

They can pass a law for patients--they did the Patients Bill of Rights--and didn't include it.

I go back and forth on civil unions--it's a name change and the slippery slope goes on.

But gays can get the same privileges as married folks with laws changed and contracts--like many married folks have to do to make sure their affairs are in order.


Obama gave the same liberal talking points.

Alex--you and I and the media know nothing of Cindy and her finances or the Mac household.

And McCain hates pork barrel spending--name something he put in a bill for pork? You can't--

You guys see McCain's "congratulations" video?

Classy!

Let's see if Obama responds in kind.

Murphy- the visitation was ONE example. there are over 1000 rights that married couples enjoy that those with civil unions do not.

Why? Cuz "gays are icky" and that's about it.

"NOBODY will be watching THAT speech in 40 years."

Quite possibly true. But...if we elect John McCain....let's face it....there is a real chance no one will be reading anything in 40 years because we'll be dead. Electing John McCain is like electing a loose cannon as president.

Looked like the Denver Convention was a fine event, and one that was looking to appeal to the average people not to billionaires in the oil and gas industry.

If you want the rhetorical left Rogers, you got it tonight. Is it really what you want for your children?

Without a doubt in my mind. McCain's nuts. The guy tried to spark a war with Russia just last week! I don't want my kids fighting any Republican wars or saddled with any more borrow-and-spend Republican debts. I want McCain to lose like Mondale so the current crop of Republicans is wiped out and they have to start over. The GOP is so bad today that I'm reassessing Nixon.

Alex--you and I and the media know nothing of Cindy and her finances or the Mac household.

Think again, smurphy. YOU don't know something, as usual.

www.nytimes.com

"Cindy McCain's $225,000 credit card debt"

You lefties didn't see that he was leaning to the middle with this speech.

I saw, and that's exactly what I expected from him. That pragmatism is exactly why I've supported him since '04. He spoke directly to Republicans, directly to their concerns, and I'm telling you right now, he won many over.

If you were planning on running against Jimmy Carter, prepare to get your ass handed to you.

"But gays can get the same privileges as married folks with laws changed and contracts--like many married folks have to do to make sure their affairs are in order."

Or...we could just treat the EQUALLY and allow gay marriage. How would that hurt you???
The prohibition against gay marriage is a punishment for being gay, at least be honest.
Oh wait, I forgot, you're a REpublican.

Alex--I have friends who are gay and would never describe them as "icky"--that is your word.

I would just like to see marriage between a man and a woman mean something and stay traditional.

When you change the definition of marriage it no longer means anything.

Like it or not, we are America, we carry the big stick, we have since our inception.

There is no Gaia, no one world. We need a leader that will rule, not bow in suplication.

McCain would be considered a blue dog democrat 15 years ago, maybe to the left of Bill Clinton. But he would not waiver in the face of danger to our country.

Obama is no John Kennedy, he is a Neville Chamberlain in waiting.

Mac has said he was mistaken and sorry for not voting for MLK day.

What exactly made him change his mind?

"And McCain hates pork barrel spending--name something he put in a bill for pork? You can't--

Posted by MURPHY "

Yeah, that's why loves pouring money into the military industrial complex.

I would just like to see marriage between a man and a woman mean something and stay traditional.

Then call gay marriage something else, but leave your bigotry away from the equal rights they deserve.

When you change the definition of marriage it no longer means anything.

I guess that explains the 50% divorce rate, since marriage has constantly changed over the centuries. Or do men still get to marry their dead brothers widows at the cost of a few donkeys?

Do brothers still marry sisters?

Can 12 year olds still get legally married?(in the US)

Is interracial marriage still banned?

How about inter religious marriage?

The "traditional view" of marriage 100 years ago was white with white and black with black.

Life is change.

That was awesome. I can't think of any way to have made it better. This from his own hand, leaving his home, going to a hotel and staying up writing his own speech. I don't know who else worked it over with him, if anyone - but this was definitely a tour de force of intellect, strategy and poise.

This is what America needs. This ability to speak, to form ideas, to articulate clearly.

I am impressed.

"Obama is no John Kennedy,.."

Posted by disturbed

You're right. He's better than John Kennedy.


RC

Nixon was a mere crook, Bush is a mobster. The GOP is an organized crime syndicate run by fear and money.

A mandate for Obama would mean the House take-over that Nancy P worked so hard for, holding onto SD's for Obama.

TN--he admitted he was wrong--

Just like he changed his stance on energy.

It wasn't apparent of no urgency to drilling and nuclear and wind and thermal etc when gas was $1.50 a gallon.

When gas got over $4.00 people screamed--this hurts everyone.

Bull Fucking Shit.

If he really believed that load of manure he would back it up with pledges like: ending the office of homeland security, stopping the wiretapping, the torture, etc.

Cock Sucker.

Murphy- I'm sure if the subject came up, and you let your opinions out of the closet, your "gay friends" would be your "former friends who are gay".

John Kennedy stood the line, will the community organizer Obama do so?

The next leader of the free world must.

Alexandrite, the other way marriage has changed is it's moved from "death to us part" to a nice "one man, one woman - at a time."

Serial "monogamy" is the new "tradition."

Shawn- If he takes those stances the republicans will beat him to death with them. "he doesn't care about our security!"

Most americans want torture, even if its unconstitutional.

"Serial monogamy"

That's funny!

Hey sMURPHY-

What part of a traditional marriage was it when McCain cheated on his crippled wife all those times, then married one of his mistresses?

Just curious.

Shawn, vulgarities will get you nowhere.

Use fact and argumentation to make your points.

To do otherwise will only get lost in mitutia.

Use fact and argumentation to make your points.

We've been tellin you that for years. Hasn't done any good, either.

But thanks for the belly laugh, rex.

carefully reading all previous posts will tell who to vote for quite clearly, who wants to live in a America of hate?

Or music

Does this sound like a good plan?

Presidential hopeful Senator Barack Obama (DIll.) has unveiled his economic plan of raising taxes on the successful. His plan would boost the top marginal rate to well over 55 percentbefore the inclusion of state and local taxesresulting in many individuals seeing their marginal tax rate double. The consequences of this policy would be a return to the bad old days of tax avoidance, with taxpayers disguising personal income as business income or capital gains and the migration of capital from the United States to abroad.

Among the more prominent elements of his tax proposal, Senator Obama would end the Bush tax cuts and allow the top two tax rates to return to 36 and 39.6 percent. He also would allow personal exemptions and deductions to be phased out for those with income over $250,000. The real kicker, though, is that Senator Obama would end the Social Security payroll tax cap for those over $250,000 in earnings. (The cap is currently set at $102,000.) These individuals will then face a tax rate of 15.65 percent from payroll taxes and the top income tax rate of 39.6 percent for a combined top rate of over 56 percent on each additional dollar earned.

High-income individuals will be forced to pay even more if they live in cities or states with high taxes such as New York City, California, or Maryland. These unlucky people would pay over two-thirds of each new dollar in earnings to the federal government.

How the Obama Tax Plan Compares to Other Countries

Senator Obama's new tax rate would give the United States one of the highest tax rates among developed countries. Currently only six of the top 30 industrial nations have a tax rate for all levels of government combined of over 55 percent. Under this tax plan, the United States would join this group and have a higher top rate than such high-tax nations as Sweden and Denmark. The top marginal rate would exceed 60 percent with the inclusion of state and local taxes, which means that only Hungary would exceed Senator Obama's new proposed top tax rate.

The costs in economic terms of such high taxes are real. For example, of the six countries with higher tax rates than 55 percent, the average unemployment rate is 7.35 percent. This figure includes Denmark, which appears to have a very low unemployment rate of 3.9 percent. However, Denmark spends over 5 percent of its GDP on unemployment programs and benefits, thereby increasing its unemployment rate.

A Return to the Bad Old Days

Historically, Senator Obama's tax rate would be the highest individual tax rate since the Jimmy Carter days. Tax shelters and tax avoidance strategies were common when the top marginal rate was 70 percent or higher. This new top tax rate will again encourage these gimmicks, reducing investment and economic growth as resources are squandered in an attempt to avoid punitive taxation.

Many individuals will attempt to transfer their compensation from wages to capital gains, since capital gains would only be taxed at 25 percent, or less than half of the top rate on wages. This would put a great deal of pressure on a company to do anything it could to make its stock quickly increase in value. Other individuals would try to incorporate so they could pay business taxes instead of having to pay taxes on their wages. Again, these resources would be diverted away from more productive uses and slow the economy.

High tax rates also encourage capital and income flight to lower-taxed areas. There is ample evidence in the United States of individuals and businesses moving to states such as Florida or Delaware to take advantage of their tax-friendly laws. A higher federal tax rate would encourage individuals to move assets abroad to take advantage of lower tax rates in countries such as Canada, France, and Great Britain.

These high tax rates could also have a large impact on the labor force. Many workers could choose to reduce their hours or simply retire in the face of such high taxation. Economists usually argue a great deal about what effect minor changes in the tax code will have on incentives to work. However, the Obama plan calls for a tax increase so large that economists will be focusing on the harm to the overall economy rather than just the isolated effects on labor and on capital.

A Finite Source of Revenue

Perhaps a larger worry than the damage to the economy is the long-run budget problem of the United States. While Senator Obama raises taxes a great deal on upper income individuals, the overall tax plan increases the national deficit. As a result, the country will be even less prepared to pay for current and future Social Security and Medicare obligations. When money is needed to pay for those programs, it will be hard to tax the rich even more, given that the top rate will already be so high. Instead, in order to pay the government's spending and entitlement shortfalls, taxes would fall most heavily on middle-income Americans. After all, even successful taxpayers are not an infinite source of revenue.

Libslayer- here's the link, plagiarist...

www.heritage.org

I will always be the leader Alex.

But even leaders must evolve and learn.

Flaming defeats the cause of righteousness.

"Does this sound like a good plan?"
yes, it reduces my taxes quite a bit!
I love it!


Rex is disturbed? How obvious is that?


Hi ya, Stumpy.

by Rea S. Hederman, Jr. and Patrick Tyrrell


sound like a good tax plan... it is what he is not telling you...

As his make-or-break Florida primary contest against John McCain approached in late January, Mitt Romney abandoned his pledge that "I'm not going to talk about the character of the people I'm running against." Instead, the Romney campaign produced a memo titled, "The McCain Way: Attack Republicans - A Top 10 List."

Romney's top 10 list includes some of McCain's greatest hits - literally. In addition to dropping the f-bomb on fellow Republican Senators Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and John Cornyn (R-TX), McCain "repeatedly" called New Mexico's Pete Domenici an "a**hole." While the Romney list features some comparatively minor McCain blow-ups towards Dick Cheney, Mitch McConnell and other leading lights of the GOP, it also claims that in 1995, John McCain "had a scuffle" with then 92-year old Strom Thurmond.

Here are the Romney campaign's top 10 episodes of "the McCain way" of rage and fury. Only the heading for each is shown below; the details and list of references are provided in the full memo, which is available at the Boston Herald:

1. Defending His Amnesty Bill, Sen. McCain Lost His Temper And Screamed, "F*ck You!" At Texas Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX).
2. In 2000, Sen. McCain Ran An Attack Ad Comparing Then-Gov. George W. Bush To Bill Clinton.
3. Sen. McCain Repeatedly Called Sen. Pete Domenici (R-NM) an "A**hole," Causing A Fellow GOP Senator To Say, "I Didn't Want This Guy Anywhere Near A Trigger."
4. Sen. McCain Had A Heated Exchange With Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA) And Called Him A "F*cking Jerk."
5. In 1995, Sen. McCain Had A "Scuffle" With 92-Year-Old Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-SC) On The Senate Floor.
6. Sen. McCain Accused Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) Of the "Most Egregious Incident" Of Corruption He Had Seen In The Senate.
7. Sen. McCain Attacked Christian Leaders And Republicans In A Blistering Speech During The 2000 Campaign.
8. Sen. McCain Attacked Vice President Cheney.
9. Celebrating His First Senate Election In 1986, Sen. McCain Screamed At And Harassed A Young Republican Volunteer.
10. Sen. McCain "Publicly Abused" Senator Richard Shelby (R-AL).

During his first president run back in 1999, John McCain tried to defuse the growing concerns over his hot temper, insisting, "Do I insult anybody or fly off the handle or anything like that? No, I don't." But when the Washington Post in April detailed, John McCain's legendary temper, pundits, politicians and armchair psychologists alike weighed in on the Arizona Senator's litany of f-bombs, fisticuffs and frothing. But while McCain spokesman Mark Salter called the Washington Post piece "99% fiction," one national Republican leader had already taken great pains to back up its account.

That would be John McCain's would-be running mate, Mitt Romney.

Shawn- If he takes those stances the republicans will beat him to death with them. "he doesn't care about our security!"
Most americans want torture, even if its unconstitutional.

-----------

Fine then Alex. Then hoist up the swastika and forget this jesus horseshit.

"And McCain hates pork barrel spending--name something he put in a bill for pork? You can't--"

Wanna bet?

Arizona Sen. John McCain is sponsoring two interesting pieces of legislation. One mounts a direct assault on congressional earmarks, those little morsels of home district pork that lawmakers slip into unrelated spending bills. The other steers $10 million to the University of Arizona to launch an academic center honoring the late Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist.--

realitycheck08.org

"flaming" is right, smurfgeist.

Alex--you are deflecting from the marriage of a man and a woman.

And what did she charge Alex--shoes or charges to her charities?



As for my own taxes. I own my business and had to S-corp and pay employee taxes and Employer taxes.

Reduces my net considerably. Obama wants to raise employer taxes.

I can pay the 401k first and something about a dividend to a degree.

But if all goes to the business plan--I will hit 200k this year --way over what I estimated.

And if Obama is elected --again if all goes to plan--I will hit that magic "rich" number and get screwed.

This is all relatively new and confirming with CPA.

Makes folks like me want to work less--it's depressing.

Hubby had a heart attack 2 years ago he just snagged a rip your heart out job. (no pun intended) We are screwed.


This 250k crap will make people not get married to avoid the combined income taxes.

it is what he is not telling you

It's all on his website. I have never needed heritage.org to tell me how to analyze anything. They rarely get it right anyway.

Shawn- I don't want torture at all. At all!

But if he runs on that, he will get asshammered by the republican black/white media machine.

Best to just win, then undo the constitutional damage. He is a constitutional prof after all.

McCain Broke His Own Pork-Barrel Spending Rules. "After years of crusading against 'pork-barrel' spending projects in Congressional appropriations bills, Senator McCain may be breaking his own rules. McCain pushed for, and got, $14.3 million for Arizona's Luke Air Force Base inserted into the just-completed fiscal 2004 military construction appropriations conference report. The only problem is the project to acquire more land near the base was not requested.

www.democrats.org

Great speech, no McSame surprise announcement and no greek temple. Why are the righties so consistently wrong?

Liked the part about the GOP accepting responsibility and owning Bush's failures.

How do Corkster....

Disturbed

Alex--you are deflecting from the marriage of a man and a woman.

No, I'm not.

You argued that marriage cannot change. It has, more than it's stayed the same.

The SAME exact arguments I see against gay marriage now, were used against interracial marriage before.

Tradition.
The bible.
Fucks up the kids.
makes other marriages worth less.
All we're missing is "mixing of the races"

PS- We've already had gay marriage in this country BTW. And yours hasn't ended...so get the fuck over it.

If You believe the Constitution protects a Heterosexual Marriage then You must also find that it protects a Homosexual Marriage because if You do not You are denying them Equal protection and Due Process rights. Murphy I have grown to Love You so I don't understand why You are so against Your fellow Men and Women having their equal rights just because they fell in love with a member of the same Gender. It is amazing to Me. It really is.

Larry

I agree with Larry, any two people who wish to be married should be allowed to get married.

Why should hetrosexuals be the only ones to suffer?

TN--he admitted he was wrong--

Again, at what point did he realize it? Was it:

after a 1992 proposition to recognize the holiday in Arizona did not pass, the National Football League boycotted hosting Super Bowl XXVII at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe? Or after other tourist boycotts of AZ?

or because he finally understood the plight of black people all of a sudden and thought King should have his day?

We are screwed.

Well gosh Murph! I guess you should cry 95% of the people in this country, many of whom work their asses of but haven't achieved your stature, a fucking river. Bop hoo hoo....sniff..

Bop = Boo

DENVER - In a brief break from a fierce advertising war, Republican presidential candidate John McCain will air a one-evening-only ad with a simple message for Barack Obama: "Job well done."


The ad will air before, during and after Obama's nomination acceptance speech on national cable television.

In the ad, McCain addresses Obama directly, congratulating him for becoming the Democratic Party's nominee. McCain also recognizes the symbolism of a black man accepting the nomination on the 45th anniversary of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech.

McCain says: "Senator Obama, this is truly a good day for America. Too often the achievements of our opponents go unnoticed. So I wanted to stop and say, congratulations. How perfect that your nomination would come on this historic day. Tomorrow, we'll be back at it. But tonight Senator, job well done."

Probably because it's trying to normalize abnormal behavior that is a life-style choice or a choice from abuse when the person has been abused.

God did not make Adam and Steve--

Isn't there anything that culture can't or won't try to change because it makes someone feel good?

And I am asking this as someone who likes to maintain some tradition in life--not this anything goes culture that is only going to get worse.

Alex listed the problems--and I dont have to get over it--You get over it! ;o)

And I dont' think it is wrong for folks to have protections by contract-finances, health, property, wills etc. All couples should have this protection.

Marriage in society between a man and a woman protects them and families and kids.

And I am not trying to denegrate gays--but it's not the same and all of you know it.

"Makes folks like me want to work less--it's depressing."

Well work less then. I'm sure there are plenty of people who will pick up the slack. You're not indispensable.

Excellent speech tonight by Obama. Very good convention overall.

Excellent speech tonight by Obama. Very good convention overall.

"If you were planning on running against Jimmy Carter, prepare to get your ass handed to you."

"You're right. He's better than John Kennedy."


Wonderful night. Brilliant speech.


Probably because it's trying to normalize abnormal behavior that is a life-style choice or a choice from abuse when the person has been abused.
God did not make Adam and Steve--

1st off...your suggestion that all gay people were sexually abused is ludicrous. Go run that one by your "gay friends" and see how long they stick around.

And god didn't make adam and eve either, sweetheart. Unless you believe that all humans on earth or genetic descendants of TWO people and their inbreeding children.

In your case, I believe it. In most others? No way.

Murph, we agree on almost everything, but....I never understood being against two people wanting to get get married.

I don't know any gays, they have never had any impact on my life.

Why not let them get married just like everyone else? I don't htink it would hurt anyone.

I'm a conservative and I just don't get it.

Alex, quit being an ass. Please.

Null--and WL--sorry I even posted the tax post--


Everyone wants to get to this level and succeed. I work my butt off--over 50 hours a week--and it's taken 24 years to get here.

This is my business Null--so take your whatever it is somewhere else.

Alex listed the problems-

That almost exactly mirror the "problems" of miscegenation.

Can whites marry blacks in your world, murphy?

If so, wasn't that a change from traditional marriage?

And what of McCain's "do it cuz it feels good" marriages?

You're on the losing end here, I'm afraid.

This is what they have (in common with the Taliban),on this topic:

"God did not make Adam and Steve-- "

Too bad it's not the 14th century, because many of us are trying to live in the 21st.

Alex, quit being an ass. Please.

Posted by disturbed at 2008-08-29 12:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

Go fuck yourself, banned person and player of shitty music.

'God did not make Adam and Steve'

God DID make Adam AND Steve.

'Marriage in society between a man and a woman protects them and families and kids.'

Every child rapist, serial murderer - every psychopath is a result of a heterosexual union.

Gay marraige/ behavior isn't my thing but how exactly is preventing equal rights between citizens protecting me and my family???

Later all. Have a good night.

Unless you believe that all humans on earth or genetic descendants of TWO people and their inbreeding children.


Alex--they--we didn't get here by turkey basters either.

Do you think two guys (two gals) produced a child without the help of something other than nature?

Anyone who was considering four more years of Bush just had their ass handed to them and were politely, yet forcefully, asked to reconsider.

Most won't, but many will. The dynamics of the election just changed.

Tonight's speech is akin to one of the Dems greatest orator's, Mario Cuomo. And the truth will set you free. The Dems will take us back to the basics.

www.youtube.com


"God did not make Adam and Steve-- "

A 1999 review by researcher Bruce Bagemihl shows that homosexual behavior, not necessarily sex, has been observed in close to 1500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, and is well documented for 500 of them.

en.wikipedia.org

Murphy

Reduces my net considerably. Obama wants to raise employer taxes.

Obama said tonight he will not be raising taxes for 95% of people and small businesses.
I'm not sure if $250,000 is considered a "small" business but with the multimillion dollar corporations raking in the bucks, your $250 grand sounds like it would be in the small business tax bracket.

"This is my business Null--so take your whatever it is somewhere else."

If you're going to use your business situation as a political argument it's fair game. So don't bring it up and then start whining.

"God did not make Adam and Steve-- "

Actually, yes He did, and He continues to make more Adams and more Steves every day. He's created gay people as long as he's been creating us straight people, so it must be part of His plan. Yet 'phobes think they somehow know better than God.

Insulting, really.

And I am not talking about the BS racist crap that went on for decades and longer.

And I do go back and forth on civil unions. Just like the death penalty--not to compare the two--please don't go there..

I see that traditional marriage being outsourced and the new meaning will allow marriage with polgygamists and whatever else someone thinks of to feel good.

And I included that gays are a life style choice in addition to 60% or more that were abused that decide for whatever or any reason to play gay.


Where is the gene for gayness? And don't site gay sites that push for this theory.

And I am not putting down their behavior--folks as adults do what they want--but don't try to normalize it and call it marriage.

...And I am asking this as someone who likes to maintain some tradition in life--not this anything goes culture that is only going to get worse.

- Murphy

I agree with you 100%. We are losing all our traditions and culture. It's becoming replaced with a run amok, anything goes culture which caters to pleasing the liberal politically correct crowd.

I'll get slammed on here because you're considered bias and prejudice and intolerant if you don't believe in "anything goes" but I don't care. I'm somewhat socially conservative and believe in tradition.

Alex- SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Alex- SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I think it is pretty clear that a certain percentage of all animals are 'gay'. 2-3%

Why I don't know.

I think it is related to smell, I smell a woman that is attractive to me, it drives me nuts.

Man make me pissed off, like a wolf that smells a wrong scent. The ones that I can get along with have no smell at all.

Maybe it's all olifactory.

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-08-29 12:35 AM

Null--you said I am indespensable--so that was my reply. You missed it with another jealous comment.


CC-- Obama's line of rich is 250k.


And whoever posted the crap about animals and creatures being "gay"--I thing gays are tired of that arguement and being compared to animals and brainless creatures for their reasons that they want to be with another of the same sex.


AU--McCain has picked Pawlenty--got the tea leaves out and that is what they show. ;o)

"And if Obama is elected --again if all goes to plan--I will hit that magic "rich" number and get screwed."

For a business owner you have no concept how taxes work. For example, if someone's income puts them into a higher tax bracket, only income at or above that level is taxed at that percentage. Lower amounts are taxed at the lower rates.

We are all animals.

Obama accepted the nomination? I lost that bet. I figured he'd say 'no thanks' after the roll call.

How in the hell does allowing Gays and Lesbians to have their equal rights interfere with a "Judao Christian" Traditional Marriage?? The only ones I see interfereing with Traditional Marriages are those in traditional marriages for the fourth fifth sixth time. BTW All traditions had to have a begining somewhere in time. There will be other traditions that started out from this era of time. Hell did Ya know it used to be a tradition that Straight Blacks could not Marry cause 3/5ths a person could not enter fully into a Contract. Did You know the old foggies of their time declared it would ruin the meaning of traditional family values. The same was said about Interracial Marriages. Oh You can't mix races that is soo wrong they said. They said it would ruin the traditional Family unit. Bull marlarky. Today it about Gays and Lesbians achieving equality amoungst their heterosexual counterparts. Times change people grow up. The time is Now.

Larry

We sh*t, we pi*s, we fu*k, we procreate.

Consiousness doesn't relieve our duties to mother earth.

"McCain would be considered a blue dog democrat 15 years ago, maybe to the left of Bill Clinton. "

Tax cuts for the wealthiest, privatizing Social Security, and suggesting more Scalias should be on the bench, and that's to the left of Bill Clinton?!? How clueless can someone be?

"And I am not putting down their behavior--folks as adults do what they want--but don't try to normalize it and call it marriage."

Murphy-
Here's all about Obama on gays and marriage from his lesbian critics:

Although Barack Obama has said that he supports civil unions, he is against gay marriage. In an interview with the Chicago Daily Tribune, Obama said, "I'm a Christian. And so, although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition, and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman."

lesbianlife.about.com

You really should examine this stuff before you spout off, Murph.

"We sh*t, we pi*s,"

And some while blogging.

I work my butt off--over 50 hours a week

MURPHY

How do you find so much time to blog?

One Spouse
One House
Obama-Biden '08

Race has nothing to do with sexuality Larry.

Obama slammed it out of the park tonight (and it was a big park). I look forward to the whining and gnashing of petty teeth tomorrow, not that there's been any lack of that on this blog tonight.

I work 56 hours a week Unity, minimum.

How about you?

only on drudge can a thread topic go from Obama's Convention Speech to gay marriage.

y'all aren't going to convince Murphy different on said subject so let it be.

For a business owner you have no concept how taxes work. For example, if someone's income puts them into a higher tax bracket, only income at or above that level is taxed at that percentage. Lower amounts are taxed at the lower rates.

Posted by Danforth at 2008-08-29 12:53 AM


No shit sherlock--You missed my other posts--


Larry--

On the gay marriage thing--we have already allowed experimenting and ruining kids for generations because of easy divorces and so people could feel better. Marriage is not perfect and some folks have to separate (abuse) and kids have been screwed up.

Now they want to have gay marriage with ALL those problems and they also want to have kids.

So we can --as a society--screw up those kids for more generations.

It will never stop. And the polygymists want their rights because it makes them feel better to have multiple spouses. There are already cases in the courts moving up to the SCOTUS by the ACLU to include rights for polygymists.

Google ACLU and Polygymists and see the hits. (I think I spelled it wrong?).

search.yahoo.com

Heart shaped glasses

Betel--I popsted that I go back and forth on civil unions..

AU--I read really fast I guess--;o)


And I dont get to blog all that much --after hours mainly. I am addicted to the blog--does that sound weird or what??

Murphy-
re: "And the polygymists want their rights because it makes them feel better to have multiple spouses."

Just out of curiosity:

1. Have you read any of Obama's consistent statements on gay "marriage" (to which I linked above)?

2. What do you think of Romney as a possible VP choice for McCain?

And I am over and out--

Later gators..

Race has everything to do with Sexuality. For You see Our Sexuality is ingrained within us just the same as the Genes that say if We will be Black or We will be white. No difference. One deals with Outward appearances the other deals with our inner appearance to ourselves and those with whom we fall in love with.

Larry

Murphy-
re: "I popsted that I go back and forth on civil unions.."

Obama doesn't. He's for civil unions and equal legal rights, but reserves the term "marriage" in his own personal beliefs as between a man and a woman.


god help us if this empty suit gets elected.

Posted by libbasher at 2008-08-28 07:27 PM |

where the hell you been the past 7 1/2 years mr van winkle?

Murph, don't go.....There are many other subjects still. ( I don't have to work tomorrow, heheheheh)

Alex- SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Posted by Redsoxfan at 2008-08-29 12:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

What is your problem, little man? I hadn't even posted for quite some time when you said that.

I work 56 hours a week Unity, minimum.

How about you?

Posted by disturbed

I work my ass off and then I relax and cash the royalty checks, volunteer helping others, and have probably spent too much time reading idiotic posts by Bushbots this last year.

All these people bragging how many hours they work, and then they spend countless hours blogging. No spouse, no kids, no life, no clue? Sad.

Completely wrong Larry.

Nah, not sad man...just normal...drink a beer


I work my butt off--over 50 hours a week


MURPHY


How do you find so much time to blog?

Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2008-08-29 12:58 AM

let me try son. there's WORKING 50 hours a week, and then there"s being AT WORK 50 hours a week.

hope i helped.

there's WORKING 50 hours a week, and then there"s being AT WORK 50 hours a week.

Rob being in the latter group.

A Classic

Your ignorance is quite profound Rex.

Larry

let me try son. there's WORKING 50 hours a week, and then there"s being AT WORK 50 hours a week.

hope i helped.

Posted by hillbillydeluxe

You nailed it

FF

Not at all Larry, I actually thought about it.

Race and sexuality have no corilation, other then probabilty.

Sexual proclivity has a number, what you are attracted to has a numerical equation.

let me try son. there's WORKING 50 hours a week, and then there"s being AT WORK 50 hours a week.

LOf'ingL!!

Negatory Rex. Your sexuality is ingrained within Your Genes just the same as Your race is ingrained within Your Genes. It's a p[art of who You are. When You are being discriminated against for who You are it makes no difference if it's the color of ones skin or their sexual orientation. They are talking about what makes that person themselves. Put it another way. When did You choose to be straight Rex?? When did You choose to be the race that You are?? BOTH the same fucking thing PERIOD.

Larry Mohr

Great speech, great convention.

Chuck Todd reported tonight the McCain people were stunned and couldn't come up with a statement. Funny !!

And a hurricane coming to remind Americans just how inept the GOP WH has been. Evangelicals prayed for rain tonight. Oops !! God's answers are, "yes, no, and "wait". So, the GOP will get their wish, but not when they wished for it. How perfect !! Instant Karma.

Nite

I agree with you on that aspect of your argument Larry.

Unless someone is hypersexual, their sexuality is predetermined at birth.


Sexual proclivity has a number, what you are attracted to has a numerical equation.

Posted by disturbed at 2008-08-29 01:23 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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We aren't talking about those 1-900 numbers. Sorry Rex You lose yet again.

Larry Mohr

Larry, I am agreeing with you.

What is your point?

Boil it down.

The Alex Song.

Dobson's "Focus on the Family" group prayed for rain on Obama's speech. The weather was beautifull, no rain, God said "Buzz off Dobson", and in other news it appears that lightning may have struck Dobson! Is God a Democrat?

I uderstand winos are being rounded up to beef up the crowd for McCain tommorow, good luck with that, carefully watch the tv focus.

that Obama crowd was based on rock star celebrity, it was grass roots political power, respect it! Mock it at your peril! (clue not good to insult voters)

Shawn- I don't want torture at all. At all!
But if he runs on that, he will get asshammered by the republican black/white media machine.
Best to just win, then undo the constitutional damage. He is a constitutional prof after all.

----------------

Complete Horseshit. A liar is a liar.
Either he puts up, or withdraw the "clean break" scatology.

Hussein was crap, beleive that.

no rain!! great speech!!

here's what the Repuglicans say: WAAAHHH!!

ha.

It was 8;46am in the morning.

My mom woke us up...I had been telling her for months that it was coming, I was agitated, basically obsessed with Al Queada and Saddam, I knew it was coming for us......

Everyone was ignoring it and paying attention to the impeachemnt crap.......

My mom said, 'You were right, they hit us.'

All Hail Obama!!! what a night!. you can't keep a good liberal down!

Then the second plane hit the towers.....

We started to do death count....20,000. 30?

basically obsessed with Al Queada and Saddam

Saddam had nothin to do with 9-11.

Everything changed after Wikipedia

disturbed ancient history. are we supposed to live in fear and pass up the greatest leader ever ? i say no. I will walk with Obama into this great future that lies ahead of us.

War, this is war.

war with who? I'd rather go to war with Obama who is thoughtful and sane over John Mcsame. At least with Obama I'd know we were fighting for security and freedom and not Halliburtons bottom line.

I'm sure you would Rasta.

But would you go to war with me?

me

Thwe lucky ones Die first

The GOP is so bad today that I'm reassessing Nixon.

~RC

Hear that.

Christ, you can look back on Nixon's days in office as being practically halcyonic in direct comparison to the utterly corrupt and morally bankrupt GOP of today.

How sad is that?

Excellent speech tonight by Obama. Very good convention overall

~Gal Tuesday

Agreed. Excellent Speech. And indeed the entire Dem-Con went off with out a hitch or a sour note.

Stevie Wonder was a treat as well.

Luff that guy.

Romney's top 10 list

~AU

Luffs it!

crotch shots

~Former John

Stay classy, Rtards!

G08ama!

Be Well.

/Back but briefly. Too fulla Butter Chicken and Taj Mahal beer to blog properly.
// *Urp*

But would you go to war with me?

A li'l Nachtmusic, Rex?

Retrosic?

Und now on "Sprockets" ve dance!

Be Well.

/Outtie, but back tommorow wif bells on, exiting the increasingly energised Drudge Retort, as a tater do,
stage left.

Let's go

Fucking DVR!!

I missed the speech and tried to record it, but ended up with the Fox News aftermath instead.

Without watching the speech, I felf the Fox analysis was very good. It was balanced and informative - Danni is going to go apeshit when she reads this.

Anyhow, here is what I gathered....

It was a good speech. The setting was absolutely incredible - the huge crowd, the fireworks, the applause...If Obama doesn't get a serious bounce from this, I'll be shocked.

According to Fox analysis, the content was playbook Democratic rhetoric. Now, I saw clips of the speech and had mixed reactions. At times, I rolled my eyes. At times I thought - ouch! That was a good one!

All in all, good work on the part of Obama and the DNC.

The Repubs now have their work cut out for them. McCain needs to come accross as a serious candidate whose wisdom transcends Obama and he needs to do so forcefully. He needs to be the safe choice - the guy one can rely on to safeguard America. On screen, McCain is likeable, but he doesn't match the charisma of Obama. He just doesn't. He needs to distinguish himself. He needs a homerun next week. His veep pick is important, but secondary. He needs to step up at the RNC and deliver an excellent speech. Given the glimpses of what I saw tonight, McCain can't win on gimmicks. He's going to have to convince the public that he's the best man for the job.

Kudo's to the Obama camp for delivering to the extent that this election will likely come down to 'mano y mano' - which is the way it should be.

PS - I saw the clip of Obama and his wife walking on-stage with Biden and his wife and I have a couple of observations:

1. On that clip, Michelle looked large (not in a good way) when standing next to Biden's cum-dumpster.

2. Barack and Michelle displayed what I construed to be genuine love for eachother. In reading the body-language they make for a couple truly in-love. Granted, our current Prez and first-lady exude the same, but I digress. Regardless, their apparent affection for eachother serves as a strong-point for Obama's aspirations IMO.

Jeffj- do yourself a favor and watch the speech without fixed news soundbites and commentary:

www.youtube.com

Alex,


You beat me to the punch.


I was about to do just that - thank God for Youtube!

Multi-tasking...


WAY too many thank you's so far.

The hysterical rekord is now complete... except for Rcade's editing, anyway...

So far...Michelle Obama comes across as genuine, in her love for her man.


Based upon my observations, he's likely hung.

JJ,

I think you are in dream land with baghdad bob.

I just finished a nice motor cycle trip across the west, from washington down to cali and over to nav up to mont and back, and everywhere I went people were all talking about Obama and how baghdad bob was a waste of time.

I never seen more homeless people than on this trip, almost at every rest stop there were 3 or 4 families living out of the vehicles.

When I was in Reno a guy asked me how I was doing, I said it was a good day because I was off work. The guy said "not to worry because I would find something." The guy actually assumed I was jobless like it was just a normal think in this day an age.

Sitting in the casino when the speeches were being made, no sports, no news on any of the screens but the speeches. In restaurants when I stopped, the speeches and the talk was hope Obama takes the show.

The middle of the pack majority are not voting baghdad bob, it is Obama and that will make it a total landslide.

Everything I said was NOT to bring Obama down. I wish he brought his "A game" last night, but it sure didn't look like it from here.

Repubs can only get better when challenged by Dems on "top" of their game, and if that was it, I'm said for BOTH parties.


And when SilverIronist cites animal behavior IN SUPPORT of homosexuality, I don't see how that SUPPORTS the argument. They eat their young too.
WE are humans. But you liberals go ahead with your "subhuman" arguments.

Gays and lesbians are human too. If it's not a natural phenomena, what is it? Too much exposure to Project Runway?

Some animal species eat their young. Humans kill multtitudes through war and neglect- an obvious advancement.

It seems like your side has the sub-human argument.

Yes, the chosen one descended from the clouds to stand before the ivory Grecian columns wearing his white toga and olive leaves about his wise brow. The crowd shed tears when the messiahs oratory flowed over the masses as the spirit of change, change we can believe in, change we, change we, blaugggh.(sorry I had to stop and puke).

You know you morons are going to wake up some day and discover, like the drunk that brought home the fat, ugly transvestite from the bar, that you have made the worst mistake of your life. The only thing more freighting is that you will be too arrogant to admit it.

"Based upon my observations, he's likely hung.

Posted by JeffJ"

You have GOT to stop looking at his crotch, Jeff!

There was a group of McCain supporters at the convention wearing togas and signs saying "The One", somehow they think that ridiculing people who are part of a grass roots political movement is a way to deflect the popularity of Obama and his grass roots movement.. One comment was , "...they seem to be calling us stupid, but look at them, really ridiculous, how pathetic". Someone should tell McCain that it is not wise to insult so many potential voters, they can only impress kool aid drikners. What a way to lose votes, thank you dummies!

Moneywar, what do you ride? Yamaha Venture here. I have only made it out west one time (live in Mich). But enjoyed Grand Canyon, Zion, Sequoia. I want to head out to Glacier and Yellowstone next summer. Sounds like you had a good trip. Funny how being on a bike people seem to be more willing to talk with you.

"One Spouse
One House
Obama-Biden '08

Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2008-08-29 12:59 AM"

"One Spouse
One House
and he can click a mouse."
-- G2geek

"Yes, the chosen one descended from the clouds to stand before the ivory Grecian columns wearing his white toga and olive leaves about his wise brow. The crowd shed tears when the messiahs oratory flowed over the masses as the spirit of change, change we can believe in, change we, change we, blaugggh.(sorry I had to stop and puke).

You know you morons are going to wake up some day and discover, like the drunk that brought home the fat, ugly transvestite from the bar, that you have made the worst mistake of your life. The only thing more freighting is that you will be too arrogant to admit it.

Posted by Mutt at 2008-08-29 08:16 AM"

Thanx for sharing your life's details Mutt, but it really is too much information ;-).

It looks like more than a few "nerves" were struck tonight. Good. In case you weren't paying attention, there were NO CLOUDS last night in Denver ;-)!

No clouds, no rain. Just one heck of an amazing speech in which Senator Obama outlined how he intends to put this country back on track. BRAVO! BRAVO! BRAVO!!!!! Today I am PROUD to be an American! All you kool aid drinkers who just can't stand what happened last night - take a big swig. You are going to need it to blind yourselves to the differences between a TRUE leader like Senator Obama and a man whose time has come - and gone (LONG gone) like Senator McBush. I say bring on the debates! I can hardly wait to watch Senator Obama chew up and spit out the repulsican rhetoric that is all Senator McBush is capable of reciting. I only hope the MSM replays Senator Obama's speech alongside whatever portions of the drivel McBush manages to memorize from his acceptance speech. What a contrast THAT will be!

YES WE CAN!!!

The only clouds were in the brains of the supporters.

I haven't seen that kind of emotional reaction to a POLICY speach (jeeze what sheep) since I last saw the historical footage of Hitler rousing the masses just before he had himself appointed dictator.

Dawnglo,
If nobody has told you yet, you're a sucker.

Oh and by the way, you bastards can't have the kool-aid line that is ours, make up your own.

So.

Either obama, mccain or barr?
A bunch of elitist judeo-christian overseers.
No man or woman possessed of these ideals can represent me.

Now I vote with my citizenship, but it has become painfully clear, they never considered me a citizen to begin with.

Good day, and good luck.

Upon leaving the stage, Obama was immediately taken to One Hour Martinizing

Ayers is "Respectable and mainstream."
Bet you don't find that on Obama's web site anymore.

"the U-Boat shit...at a know terrorist house..lololololololol...Rev. Write...Fucking lemmings..."

Fucking ignoramus.

lolololollollololloll you people think he has it in the bag........lolololololololol

Why is it Obama is going after anyone that runs this story?

Doc_Sarvis

is it not true?

John "Call Me Queeg" McCain's going to make his veep announcement in Ohio, yes?

Pawlenty says he's planning on being at the Minnesota State Fair today. Romney's flunkies say he hasn't been offered the job. Meanwhile...

A Gulfstream IV from Anchorage, Alaska, flew into Middletown Regional Airport in Butler County near Cincinnati about 10:15 p.m. Thursday, said Rich Bevis, airport manager. He said several people came off the plane, including a woman and two teens, but there was no confirmation of who was aboard.

"They were pretty much hustled off. They came right down the ramp, jumped in some vans here and off they went," Bevis said. "It was all hush, hush."
news.yahoo.com


So it's probably not Ted Stevens, either.

Libslayer doesn't quite live up to his name, does he?


Something something dweeb would be more accurate.


Doc_Sarvis


is it not true?

"Fucking ignoramus."

it's becoming clearer, the haters are losing, time to look forward to decency, time for uplifting, no more hate from the right, it's over!

JeffJ

I was reading your post and thinking it was fairly well thought out. I was almost convinced you weren't simply another robot for the right wing machine (they exist on both sides). Then you said this...

1. On that clip, Michelle looked large (not in a good way) when standing next to Biden's cum-dumpster.

Where in the HELL did that come from? So Michelle doesn't look like Barbie? Might want to take a look around, most women don't. More importantly, a man loses his wife and daughter in a car accident, marries another woman 4 1/2 years later, and remains married to her to this very day 30+ years later. This makes her a....no, not going to type those disgusting words again.

By the way, I think you might be practicing a little transference. If I recall it was McCain who dumped his wife who stood by him while he was a POW because she had been severly injured in an accident and had gained a lot of weight. He divorced his wife in February and married his new wife in May, in case math isn't your strong point, that is THREE months later.

But hey, given your comment above, it is okay to do that. After all, it was her own fault, she gained too much weight...

So much for the family values that the right holds so dear. I mean God forbid they might actually support a man who certainly seems to LIVE those values (16 years married, 2 daughters, very much in love, despite Michelle being a little heavier) rather than support someone who just gives those values lip service.

Doc


It's kinda too bad it's not Stevens. Now that would be fun.

whats wrong no one wants to prove me wrong on Ayers?????

I bet I get a personal attack instead of a valid point.

"whats wrong no one wants to prove me wrong on Ayers?????"

no need, that's been done a long time ago, do keep up will you, sorry!

Onna,

enlighten me. prove it wrong.

So you think Ayers is "Respectable and mainstream."

"A valid point...."

Would be it doesn't matter. It's trivial. It's desperate. If it's all you guys have got just stay home next November.

Libslayer,

Your damn right it's true. Obama has more skeltons in his closet then Jeffery Domer. Also, yes it is VERY telling that everytime someone says anything negitive about Obama he threatens them with leagel action. What is he trying to hide???

Smacks of Marxism.

"Would be it doesn't matter. It's trivial. It's desperate. If it's all you guys have got just stay home next November."

DOESN'T MATTER........ Your man is hanging with a Terrorist and you say it DOESN"T MATTER.... lolololol
I think the Obama people would dissagree.

libslayer
point one, how old would Obama who is 47 yrs old, would have been in the 60's where Ayers was a radical (I can loan you a calculator)

Washington post story
blog.washingtonpost.com

An articulate, intelligent African-American will speak.
But who wrote the speach?

point one, how old would Obama who is 47 yrs old, would have been in the 60's where Ayers was a radical (I can loan you a calculator)

so that makes Ayers Actions in the past OK......

How old was Obama when Ayers said "There's something about a good bomb. Night after night, day after day, each majestic scene I witnessed was so terrible and so unexpected that no city would ever soon stand innocently fixed in my mind. Big buildings and wide streets, cement and steel were no longer permanent. They, too, were fragile and destructible. A torch, a bomb, a strong enough wind. And they, too, would come undone or get knocked down."

"Your man is hanging with a terrorist...."

What you want to say, what you need to say, is my man is the terrorist.

But that would be a lie, wouldn't it? So what's your point?

But who wrote the speach?

Posted by midtowncowboy at 2008-08-29 09:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

what is that anyway...a peach with a lisp?

ZED

Nice spin. Good job of putting words in my mouth....

LIBSLAYER---You be just a strange man. When I was eighteen I associated with an ex-soldier that participated in the My Lai massacre two years previously. What that means aside from an example of peculiar chance I'll leave to you to say.

so that makes Ayers Actions in the past OK......

you really don't get it, do you! Just don't vote for Obama OK, take your hate back to hell where it belongs!

Hey Libslayer,

Since the cowardly Lib won't talk to you here are a few facts.

"William Ayers, in the age of terrorism, will be Barack Obama's Willie Horton."
--Former counterterrorism official Larry C. Johnson, The Huffington Post, Feb. 16, 2008.

Although the press has been notably lax about pursuing the matter, the full story of the Obama-Ayers relationship calls the truth of Obamas account seriously into question. When Obama made his first run for political office, articles in both the Chicago Defender and the Hyde Park Herald featured among his qualifications his position as chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a foundation where Ayers was a founder and guiding force.

Obama assumed the Annenberg board chairmanship only months before his first run for office, and almost certainly received the job at the behest of Bill Ayers. During Obamas time as Annenberg board chairman, Ayerss own education projects received substantial funding. Indeed, during its first year, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge struggled with significant concerns about possible conflicts of interest.

About Ayers:
In 1970 Ayers was called "a national leader" of the Weatherman organization and "one of the chief theoreticians of the Weathermen". The Weathermen were initially part of the Revolutionary Youth Movement (RYM) within the SDS, splitting from the RYM's Maoists by claiming there was no time to build a vanguard party and that revolutionary war against the United States government and the capitalist system should begin immediately. Their founding document called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism." In June 1974, the Weather Underground released a 151-page volume titled Prairie Fire, which stated: "We are a guerrilla organization. We are communist women and men underground in the United States.

Note the Black Liberation Theology movement connection. Anyone want to talk about Obama's 20 year association with Rev. Wright? Didn't think so.

"Good job of putting words in my mouth...."

Thanks. It really helps that I can read your mind.

how old would Obama who is 47 yrs old, would have been in the 60's where Ayers was a radical (I can loan you a calculator)


0.0000036
~Vermin

what did Jesus say:
For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins. (Matthew 6:14-15)

Libslayer must not be a Christian!

Onna
You kept calling this a grass roots movement. Is that the name of the Hollywood production company that has been producing and protecting their property in Mr. Obama? Let's face it. This guy is an empty suit. No substance. Totally teleprompter dependent. He is not even a democrat but is a Marxist. He does give a good speech but that is all he's got. Why do you think he won't debate unless it is a totally prepared and "produced" event. Listen closely. As a matter of fact, were you listening closely last night? Mr. Obama, when outlining his energy policy, said he was going to drill for gas, build nuclear and promote clean coal. WOW now that is a "change" in his plans. See what happens when he tries to put substance behind the rhetoric? Promises he has no plans on keeping. Pure pandering. Purely the same old politics he has decryed long ago. So, this has been a production with an actor. An actor with little experience to boot. If there are people caught up that truely believe that this is an authentic grass roots "movement" need to take the cure for the kool-aid (sorry, I don't have a cure for it because I am not a McCain fan either and please don't lump me in with the Ron Paul lunatics either)

The man has never asked for forgivness.


"You be just a strange man. When I was eighteen I associated with an ex-soldier that participated in the My Lai massacre two years previously. What that means aside from an example of peculiar chance I'll leave to you to say."

Would you start your political campaign at his house after knowing he did these things?

"But is a Marxist...."

And you are an aien with an ovipositer. Jeez. Where do you get this crap?

Of the day he bombed the Pentagon, Professor Ayers wrote in his memoir, quote: Everything was absolutely ideal. The sky was blue. The birds were singing and the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them, end quote. When reflecting on whether or not he would use bombs against the U.S. in future, a senior university scholar, Williams Ayers writes, quote: I can't imagine entirely dismissing the possibility.

"Would you start a political campaign at his house..."

My dear LIBSLAYER---I'm a Christian that associates with atheists. That makes me a dog with some people. If I ran for office it might bite with some. You, maybe.

But I don't care. It's trivial. It's desperate. Worse, it's stupid.

The possible president hanging with a man that says "Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and parts. Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents." Is trivial????

LIBSLAYER---Christ hung with prostitutes and tax collectors. My advice---Never vote for him.

"You kept calling this a grass roots movement"
so did those 80,000 in attendance, so do millions of Americans who are being challeged for what they can do for their country and their fellow Americans. Sorry you don't like that, but many of us do!

Again zed makes an attempt to spin...

"Again zed makes an attempt to spin..."
hey dummy, not a spin, he implied you can never vote for Jesus, like I said take your hate to hell where it belongs!

Why are you defending Ayers.. Do you people agree with him?

Onna, Obama is not Jesus... Hate to burst your bubble....

"Like I said take your hate to hell where it belongs!"
So does Rev Writes hate belong there? Does Ayers hate belong there?

Why are you defending Ayers.. Do you people agree with him?
Onna, Obama is not Jesus... Hate to burst your bubble....

would someone explain to LIBSLAYER what oxymoron means? Maybe he will stop embarrasing himself.


what did Jesus say:
For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins. (Matthew 6:14-15)


Libslayer must not be a Christian!

Posted by onna at 2008-08-29 09:54 A

My dear LIBSLAYER---I'm a Christian that associates with atheists. That makes me a dog with some people. If I ran for office it might bite with some. You, maybe.


But I don't care. It's trivial. It's desperate. Worse, it's stupid.

Posted by Zed at 2008-08-29 10:04 AM
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This is great, you Libs are quoting GOD when your leader is saying that we idiots on the right cling to our "guns and bibles in antipathy."

Here are a few. First ONNA, if you had read a little further in Matthew you would have found.

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
Matthew 7:1

ZED,

Romans 12:2
Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is - his good, pleasing and perfect will.

Hanging with athesits is probably not a good idea.

Mutt,
If Christians don't hang around atheists, how will they accomplish the great commission? You do know what that is don't you?

Confirmed, McCain picks Sarah Palin as VP. Good choice for McCAin, Obama has been getting stronger woman support so this may be helpful. She appears to be well liked in Alaska and seems very ethical, Good Choice!

here's a quote from the guy judging Obama, "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
Matthew 7:1"

real neat!

"Good Choice!

Posted by onna"

I don't see that at all.

She completely erases any "experience" argument against Obama.

And that will be especially critical given McCain's age.

There are lots more qualified women in the party. They are now open to the accusation of choosing a woman for the sake of choosing a woman (a la Ferraro)

Evilpolock,

The Great commision was to spread the word of God to all nations not hang out with athesits. Sure we should try to teach anyone that will listen. But as Paul said if they don't listen then shake the dust from your shoes and move on (paraphrased of course).

ONNA,

Try and keep up. I didn't Judge Obama only pointed out that he has questionable friends. If you wnat to jump to the conclusion that he is guilty by association that is your own fears showing.

"If you wnat to jump to the conclusion that he is guilty by association that is your own fears showing."

no, that was LIBSLAYER's conclusion, and you appeared to agree!

Ah the old "jump to conclusion that he is guilty by association" from hypocrites really is invaluable. Bush and Cheney have been guilty of everything under the sun because of their associations to big oil, Haliburton,et al. Shouldn't be allowed to cry foul when this is what you practice too. We all know you get away with this type of hypocrisy all the time

Ethical? Gov Palin appears to have pressed for a Trooper to get fired. Who was this trooper? Her's ex-brother in law. Very ethical indeed...

www.adn.com

On another note, yes I am afraid. Obama scares the hell out of me. His policies align directly with the teachings of Karl Marx. Read and learn. Education of the facts is valuable. Followers tend to dismiss this ascertion. I did too until I looked at Obama's "ideas" and those of Marx side by side. REAL SCARY

Ethical? Gov Palin appears to have pressed for a Trooper to get fired........

WOW now that is fishing. Know any particulars or is this just typical conjecture as to the circumstances. Better yet, does it really matter? This is less ethical than hanging with terrorists and hate mongers?

"Ethical? Gov Palin appears to have pressed for a Trooper to get fired. Who was this trooper? Her's ex-brother in law. Very ethical indeed..."

I doubt this will have legs, the trooper evidently was abusing her sister, so expect a lot of sympathy there, her politics appear far right, go there instead, leave the character assasination crap to Repubs and LIBSLAYER!

I provided a link...here it is again...feel free to click on it

www.adn.com

and to Obama staff

"If you wnat to jump to the conclusion that he is guilty by association that is your own fears showing."

Bird of a feather.....

Onna...

I am not saying he is a good guy (he definitely does not appear to be). However, if this is not a big deal, why deny it?

If this is already out in the first hour, it's going to get bigger and bigger over time. It should be noted this was not reported on some left wing blog, but the Alaska Daily News.

Libslayer....

Guilty by association? hmmmm

OH! You mean how Obama is a Mulim because of his name?

Or do you mean how Obama is radical black Christian who hates America because of Jeremiah Wright?

Or do you mean how he is a terrorist because he had an association with Ayers?

Remind me again who is afraid? I think you doth protest too much...

did you read the article

"The family had alleged the threat in 2005, before Palin became governor. They said Wooten had told Palin's sister he would shoot their father if he got the sister a lawyer."

Also sounds like the other guy was fired for incompetence. If this is the best you liberal hacks can do. Bring it on Obamarazzi

IRISHINUSA I understand your point, but most people would cheer her for "defending" her sister from an abusive husband, that's why no traction. Plus how can we call LIBSLAYER an idiot if we also go down the character assasination route. LIBSLAYER is an idiot, no need for us to be like him.

irony,
Dobson group prayed for rain on Obama, was a beautiful day, but Repubs may face hurricane and lots of rain!

I am afraid. I do not want to live in a Marxist society. Note that these philosophies have failed everywhere they have been tried around the globe. After all, you are a citizen of the world, aren't you? Then I would think it would be smart to learn from the mistakes of others around the world. I am also afraid because these policies have been attempted in this country before. You may be too young to remember but if you read and learn, check out the Jimmy Carter years. Same old retread policies. Study and learn on your own without the indoctrination. Make an EDUCATED decision and not an emotional one.

IRISHINUSA see what I mean, note STONEFLY's tirade, don't be like him, anyone can hate, it's easy!

ONNA where is the hate? asking you to read and learn and not be swayed by pure emotionally contrived Hollywood productions. Where is the hate in what I said? That is a typical cop out for not being able to intelligently discuss issues and potential solutions. Where is the hate? Is saying returning to the Jimmy Carter years hateful? Then how about you saing 4 more of the same past 8 years. SAME SAME. No hate. Would like to intelligently discuss any issue with you. Please get off the hate thing because if you read what I have said here, none of it can even be construed as hateful.

"I am afraid. I do not want to live in a Marxist society."

good, go to IRAN!


Why is it so bad that I question the mans character by the people he associates with?

What part of Ayers declaring war on America did you not under stand......... He did this.... He bombed America... I don't care when it was. he should have done more. In fact, he was one of the first Terrorist to declair war on us and your man starts his campaign at his house.... that does not make you question Obama's character?

See. cannot discuss it intelligently. you just don't get it because you will not do your own research. Me go to IRAN! Now there is a mean streak and very hateful! You are showing what a hypocrite you are with your ideas. Why should I go to IRAN. Your candidate is the one that wants to sit down with their dictator and talk. Let's face it, Obama would be eaten alive by the likes of Ahmadinejad or Chavez. No wonder they want him to win so badly. Me hateful? WOW read your own postings.

Correction
Ayers said he should have done more.

Since the some of the righties are enamored with really important shit like how many posts are on each thread, let me add one to the count on this one.

Good grief.

WOW now the Obama campaign comes out and says that Sarah Palin does not have enough experience to be a heartbeat from the presidency. This is truely laughable from a senator of all of 142 days whose only foreign policy experience was a trip with the Obamarazzi in tow. HAHAHAHA. they are floundering now. So much for any bump in the "grass roots" post-convention polls

"McCain Chooses Palin

This thread will surpass the Obama speech thread in the number of posts.

Posted by ride_on"

Not if I can help it!

"WOW now the Obama campaign comes out and says that Sarah Palin does not have enough experience to be a heartbeat from the presidency."

Do you have a link for that?

Devil's Advocate

Great quotes! Just have to wonder what alternative universe Chuck Shumer lives in. HAHAHA scramble, scramble, scramble.

Anyone have a hardcopy of the Obama speech last night? Just heard something where it sounded like he used "I" 100 times and then had the nerve to say "this election was never about me..."

TV results are in:
Obama speech drew 38 million people to TV, larger than any show including Idol and Olympics
just sayen!

and for Stonefly just google for his speech, it's there

exam of I;
I accept your nomination

To the love of my life, our next First Lady, Michelle Obama, and to Sasha and Malia I love you so much, and Im so proud of all of you.

And we are here because we love this country(oops that's a we)

Its time for us to change America.(oops that's a us)


Shawn, vulgarities will get you nowhere.
Use fact and argumentation to make your points.
To do otherwise will only get lost in mitutia.

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Fact 1: The owners get what they want, and they like more power.

Fact 2: Go fuck yourself.

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