What'd the Iraqi's do?

Innocent until proven quilty. Or have we forgotten this?

They were Iraqis, that's what they did,

This is the kind of stuff that pisses off Michael Savage. Not the killing. The putting the soldiers on trial.

They're guilty. My son, who is an mp stationed in the area (not in these guys company) was telling me about this some time back. They're guilty alright, guilty as charged.

I wonder if those guys, after they got back to the barracks felt better about themselves? I wonder if it soothed their pain? I wonder if they were in america and not in the army if they would have been a murderer anyway?

What'd the Iraqi's do?

They doubted Freedom & Democracy.

Maybe we should give them a detention next time and make them stand in the corner. Bad prisoners! Bad, Bad bad boy.

I wish we heard the whole story. But Kind of makes one wonder when this type of stuff will start happening in the US if one does not agree with a policy.

Remember the "WHISKEY REBELLION?"

I am sure your son had FIRST hand knowledge of this. I'll bet you don't serve on many juries do you? Gosh I hope not.

Say! Isn't War Fun?

Go Team America!

Fuck Yeah!

Shrub is responsible for all the murder and mayhem his pre-emptive warmongering has produced, because theattack of Iraq is an illegal act of aggression and occupation.

But current policy requires that all enlisted men be punished whilst officers and their civilian leadership get a free ride.

"Filthy animals were probably terrorists anyway...."

Since you were fourteen in 2003 you've probably forgotten that US forces, wholly ignorant of Iraqi tribal organization, helped create the Insurgency by engaging in much this same behavior.

You see, Iraqis tend to want blood for blood in such matters, much the same way you do.

The Realist Right, got to love them.

Filthy animals were probably terrorists anyway.

Posted by cabo_vato

Strong odds this guy has a military background.

I wonder if those guys, after they got back to the barracks felt better about themselves? I wonder if it soothed their pain?

-Lipzoidal

The fucked up thing is that at least one of these guys probably puked their guts immediately afterwards.

I am sure your son had FIRST hand knowledge of this. I'll bet you don't serve on many juries do you? Gosh I hope not.

Posted by cabo_vato

I'll bet you do. need legal protection often?

And futhermore, what the fuck do you know about it anyway? in actual fact, my son didn't see it but the other mp's told him about it.

Maybe some day when you grow up you can hold positions of responsibility. I would recommend working on your personal skills before you try.

When our soldiers take prisoners of war, libs and the ACLU whine and work to let them go free to kill more American soldiers. Although libs and the ACLU are cowards and traitors they force our troops to TAKE NO PRISONERS!

they're not the first POWS to be executed by American soldiers and they won't be the last I'm afraid.

Payback is coming!!!

I just hope theres a war between America and Russia and that Russia drops some huge,many mega_ton nuclear warheads on the largest American populatiion centers!!!

Posted by AntiCadillac at 2008-08-27 10:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Would you mind finishing your post,I think 1/2 was lost when you posted

rwd

"The accounts of and confessions to the killings, "

I blame Murtha for the guilty pleas. The Iraqis clearly shot themselves, undid their handcuffs and threw themselves in the canal. They did it just to embarrass Bush.

Scoots.

Cabo- You truly are a POS. Your flippant and crude remarks are going to be outdated and you'll soon become a relic of the past. I deserve cancer of the worst kind and lets pray to God that you don't have offspring (demon seed). Let me see if the profile fits. Your between the ages of 25-35, you're single, community college education at best(I begrudingly give you as much)you're anti-social(you basically like to torture animals)and you play violent video games and get off on them. Is that about right? Cabo...go kill yourself.

Fwthom- Are you and Cabo related?

"I say you are an idiot,I don't know you never met you, but you are an idiot."

LIPZOIDAL just handed you your head you idiot.

The thing I wonder about this is how many tours of duty had these guys endured and secondly, had any of them reported any psychological problems before hand. I suspect that the trauma of watching your buddies get killed or horribly wounded, perhaps several times would make even the strongest of us do things we didn't think we would ever be capable of. I believe they should be tried but their mental state should be taken into account.

By the way, FWTHOM's post makes me think he is drunk out of his mind.

"When our soldiers take prisoners of war, libs and the ACLU whine and work to let them go free to kill more American soldiers. Although libs and the ACLU are cowards and traitors they force our troops to TAKE NO PRISONERS!"

Other than that he hates libs and the ACLU I don't think it makes the slightest sense. I hope you enjoyed your drinks tonight FW, all fifteen of them.

"I say you are an idiot,I don't know you never met you, but you are an idiot."

LIPZOIDAL just handed you your head you idiot.

Posted by danni at 2008-08-27 11:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Thats going to need explaining?????????

"Do you have ANY facts?"

Didn't claim to you moron. People post here all the time with opinions and speculation for fun fool.
Do you have some stupid idea that this is a court of law requiring evidence and witnesses, etc.???

"Thats going to need explaining?????????""

You know how it is....if I have to explain it then you are probably too stupid to understand anyway....but then again....maybe you don't know how it is.

Kind of makes one wonder when this type of stuff will start happening in the US if one does not agree with a policy...
Posted by Unclesam

It has already begun.

...the seeds of it sprouted this week when Chimp3 had his minions make two appeals to the DoJ to investigate a foundation and its chief donor in response to a perfectly legal and 100% accurate "attack ad" that truthfully portrayed a very close link of the Chimp to unrepentant domestic terrorists.

Next, if in power, he and his ilk will institute a policy of guaranteed "equal time" limited only to radio programs of political nature.

Ultimately, your rights to free speech will be eliminated, due to the enactment of laws that provide new definitions of "hate speech", that will restrict any public (or private) conversations that may offend someone... Obviously targeted to those who are not in agreement with the party in power.

Which countries already have enacted these types of laws? Canada, France, China, Cuba...

Yes, the seeds are well sprouted and some might say the fruit on the vine is already ripe...

So, when will the punishment be death by firing squad? A couple of the countries I mentioned above already offer that reward.

Although here in America, it will never happen, as THAT political party doesn't even believe in the death penalty.

Did that answer your question, in a round about way?

LOL!

Do you know if indeed this happened?

Pathetic.

rwd

well, two of them confessed, if you read the article.

Danved-
re: "Which countries already have enacted these types of laws? Canada, France, China, Cuba...

Yes, the seeds are well sprouted and some might say the fruit on the vine is already ripe...

So, when will the punishment be death by firing squad? A couple of the countries I mentioned above already offer that reward."

Which ones? Canada or France, or China, where GW just had a wonderful time charged, like the other trillions, to be paid at high interest by your children? Funny how Bush, who has bancrupted America, didn't mention that when he was there.

...the seeds of it sprouted this week when Chimp3 had his minions make two appeals to the DoJ to investigate a foundation and its chief donor in response to a perfectly legal and 100% accurate "attack ad" that truthfully portrayed a very close link of the Chimp to unrepentant domestic terrorists.

And what legal authority claims that a non-issue, but rather specific candidate advocacy ad financed by primarily one billionaire meets current legal standards? I understand that you wish to defeat the first black candidate nominated by a major political party, whom you refer to as a "chimp", but that doesn't really answer your sweeping legal claims.

"...the seeds of it sprouted this week when Chimp3 had his minions make two appeals to the DoJ to investigate a foundation and its chief donor in response to a perfectly legal and 100% accurate "attack ad" that truthfully portrayed a very close link of the Chimp to unrepentant domestic terrorists"

Bullshit. All the searching I did on at least two of the quotes presented in the ad indicated they were falsely attributed to Obama when in fact they were CITED quotations taken from a university website and an AP article.

But I guess a 60% accurate "attack ad" is probably still legit in your book.

I'm glad I don't live over there.

Danved-
What steps have you taken to reduce the power of the imperial president, who claims the authority to jail and hold even US citizens without trial or charges indefinitely?

I'm guessing none, so correct me if I'm wrong. But all of those powers will condense upon the next executive, without a poll tax for the "chimp".

"So?"

Cheney, Dick.

rwd,

I think you think this is one of my 'making shit up for fun' posts. that's fair, because i do that quite often. this ain't one of those times. i don't kid around about my oldest son, not while he's in iraq.

I told you he is an MP in iraq in the area where this crime happened. i wouldn't call that iron clad evidence or anything like that, but there was trouble when it happened and it certainly made an memorable impression.

Every MP in the area had to sit through a bunch of lessons learned and deprogramming because of it. Plus all the mp's became higher visibility targets after that, since they are serving as law enforcement.

You suspect that the brotherhood of soldiers and the brass lied just to make you and bush look bad?

They ARE innocent until proven guilty. Going to need a trial to sort it out.

What kills me about this kind of incident is that the first response of the Right is to reflexively deny that it could possibly have happened because we're the good guys. If it is proven, they'll scoff and say it was inevitable, war is killing and we are naive to expect anything else. How the Right can live in such a constant state of cognitive dissonance is beyond me.

Fwthom wrote:
"When our soldiers take prisoners of war, libs and the ACLU whine and work to let them go free to kill more American soldiers. Although libs and the ACLU are cowards and traitors they force our troops to TAKE NO PRISONERS!"

Wow. A complete, Tom Cruise-couch-jumping dissemble. You are so laughable, fwthom.

This headline pisses me off. Everyone knows our soldiers executed over 600,000.

THE DR LEFT

Payback is coming!!!

I just hope theres a war between America and Russia and that Russia drops some huge,many mega_ton nuclear warheads on the largest American populatiion centers!!!

Posted by AntiCadillac at 2008-08-27 10:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

....but, we sure liked the above post from our friend AntiCadillac (that's why we remain silent without a hint of protest to his statement).

THE DR LEFT

P.S. It would serve us right.

..oh yeah, AntiCadillac....next time get it correct (theres should have been there's).

THE DR LEFT spelling nazi (other than that, you sure got it right bro')

We are,

THE DR LEFT

Sorry ride on but the US Government creates our own misery. We have noone to blame but ourselves.

Larry

We have been involved in many places we shouldn't be (with Dem and Repub support).

Ya' should have supported Ron Paul.

P.S. So you support AntiCadillac's "hope"? Because I haven't seen anyone putting up any sentiment against his "hope" yet.

Posted by ride_on at 2008-08-28 07:36 AM
Posted by ride_on at 2008-08-28 07:41 AM
Posted by ride_on at 2008-08-28 07:44 AM

It looks like you're so desperate to slam the "liberal left"'s statements that when they don't appear, you provide them. So..., you're arguing with yourself ;-)?!

SOMETIMES a wild statement elicits no response because it's seen for what it is: troll bait. Of course, maybe I missed the fact that's only what YOU are doing (oops for me!).

Meanwhile (and hopefully more on topic), some food for thought: I suggest this is a symptom of the larger problem of what is happening to our soldiers both physically AND mentally/emotionally. When (if?) we do leave Iraq, what is going to happen to these soldiers (and our society) when they come back home?

Read AntiCadillac's post dumbass! So do you have the same "hope" that AntiCadillac has? Plus, if I'm only arguing with myself why did you become involved (that's why I put dumbass for ya' in the first sentence).

I did.
I don't.
You are.
You're correct on calling me a dumbass (but then I did say "oops for me").

..ok, lol.

I just hope theres a war between America and Russia and that Russia drops some huge,many mega_ton nuclear warheads on the largest American populatiion centers!!!

Posted by AntiCadillac

Dude, you better be joking around because if you are serious, this is just criminally insane. Or are you one of those foreigners that live in a shit-hole somewhere and will stuff you face with the things that America provides to you and then curse them while your mouth is yet still full.

Just for the record, our military and the people that serve are and have been one of the greatest institutions ever visited on the face of this planet, second only to our constitutional government.

The military was sent on a fools mission (in iraq) by a very corrupt and evil administration. I see you are following the corrupt example.

"I just hope theres a war between America and Russia and that Russia drops some huge,many mega_ton nuclear warheads on the largest American populatiion centers!!!"

Posted by AntiCadillac

Typical leftist/Obama supporter! Your average Democrat believes exactly this, and so does Obama!

Liproid,
Your son heard a bunch of barracks rumors. He, nor the other mp's, are privy to any information other than the same rumors every other Joe has heard.

Didn't QRF Murtha condemn a bunch of Marines? Didn't he claim inside knowledge too? What ever became of that?

As for the redsoxfan...You've got to love the turd that is so upset by callous baiting and trolling that he tells the person to kill themself. It's as if he's completely unaware of how stupid he is.

When our soldiers take prisoners of war, libs and the ACLU whine and work to let them go free to kill more American soldiers

The Iraqis were ordered released by the killers' commanding officers. Bush has released 80-90% of the terriersists he had in Gitmo and around the world. Reality must really suck for the right.

But remember when all those executed Iraqis were popping up in the garbage dumps and canals and the deaths were blamed on "sectarian evildoers"? Hmmm....

And 101-the military has already picked its Mi haditha Li bad apple.

And we know of this crime because of 2 confessions.

Leads to 2 questions:

What other shit was done or is being done by blackwater or the troops that we will never hear about?

How quickly the criminals involved in this crime will be exonerated? Haditha, anyone?

Fuck the iraqis, they are nothing but filthy animals.

Fuck the iraqis, they are nothing but filthy animals.

Posted by cabo_vato at 2008-08-28 10:37 AM | Reply |

I know, fucking savages invaded the states, killed hundreds of thousands of innocent u.s. civilians, bombed the infrastructure with a shock and awe strategy, illegally detained and tortured u.s. civilians and soldiers, have this little program called rendition, created torture camps at abu grabass and club cuba, put a puppet gov't in the white house and to top it all off, they are trying to steal oil from the very ground americans walk on.

What's that you say? Oh, really?! Fuck, you're right: that what you guys did.

Greetings:This is the Secretary of War at the State Department
of the United States
We have a problem.
The companies want something done about this sluggish
world economic situation
Profits have been running a little thin lately
and we need to stimulate some growth
Now we know
there's an alarmingly high number of young people roaming
around in your country with nothing to do but stir up trouble
for the police and damage private property.
It doesn't look like they'll ever get a job
It's about time we did something constructive with these people
We've got thousands of 'em here too. They're crawling all over
The companies think it's time we all sit down, have a serious get-together-
And start another war
The President?
He loves the idea! All those missiles streaming overhead to and fro
Napalm
People running down the road, skin on fire
The Soviets seem up for it:
The Kremlin's been itching for the real thing for years.
Hell, Afghanistan's no fun
So whadya say?
We don't even have to win this war.
We just want to cut down on some of this excess population
Now look. Just start up a draft; draft as many of those people as you can.
We'll call up every last youngster we can get our hands on,
hand 'em some speed, give 'em an hour or two to learn how to use
an automatic rifle and send 'em on their way
Libya? El Salvador? How 'bout Northern Ireland?
Or a "moderately repressive regime" in South America?
We'll just cook up a good Soviet threat story
in the Middle East-we need that oil
We had Libya all ready to go and Colonel Khadafy's hit squad
didn't even show up. I tell ya
That man is unreliable.
The Kremlin had their fingers on the button just like we did for that one
Now just think for a minute-We can make this war so big-so BIG
The more people we kill in this war, the more the economy will prosper
We can get rid of practically everybody on your dole queue if we plan this right.
Take every loafer on welfare right off our computer rolls
Now don't worry about demonstrations-just pump up your drug supply.
So many people have hooked themselves on heroin
and amphetamines since we took over, it's just like Vietnam.
We had everybody so busy with LSD they never got too strong.
Kept the war functioning just fine
It's easy.
We've got our college kids so interested in beer
they don't even care if we start manufacturing germ bombs again.
Put a nuclear stockpile in their back yard,
they wouldn't even know what it looked like
So how 'bout it? Look-War is money.
The arms manufacturers tell me unless
we get our bomb factories up to full production
the whole economy is going to collapse
The Soviets are in the same boat.
We all agree the time has come for the big one, so whadya say?!?
That's excellent. We knew you'd agree
The companies will be very pleased.

Dead Kennedys 1975

"As for the redsoxfan...You've got to love the turd that is so upset by callous baiting and trolling that he tells the person to kill themself. It's as if he's completely unaware of how stupid he is."

Posted by 101Chairborne

In his defense, he did say he deserves cancer:

I deserve cancer of the worst kind and lets pray to God that you don't have offspring (demon seed).

Posted by Redsoxfan at 2008-08-27 11:18 PM

Fuck the iraqis, they are nothing but filthy animals.

Posted by cabo_vato

yeah, that's why we want to bring them freedom and democracy and also why we want to rebuild their nation...You, FatWhiteTurd and Anticadillac should tell nurse Ratchett to increase your meds..

I love meds

Liproid,
Your son heard a bunch of barracks rumors. He, nor the other mp's, are privy to any information other than the same rumors every other Joe has heard.

Posted by 101Chairborne

You may be right, but he's not an 18 yr old. He's 26 and pretty much over the chest thumping stage.

As law enforcement officers, one of their duties is to provide security to big-shots. After the 'alledged' incidents when the iraqis were shot in the head and thrown in the canal, there were lot's of big-shots poking around asking questions.

Lip,
I didn't mean to imply he was some sap or sucker for repeating what he had heard. The point I was making is that rumors run rampant, and many of them sound credible.
His MP status doesn't lend credibility (that's not a cheapshot) to the story, because you've most likely got cooks, water treatment specialists, engineers, etc repeating the same scuttlebut (a navy term?).

I remeber the rumur we were going to war with North Korea when Lil Kims dad died. I bought it hook, line, and sinker because "people" knew "people" that were involved in planning the ramp up.

I'm not trying to be a dick or condescending.

scuttlebut (a navy term?).

Yes

I love meds

Posted by cabo_vato

It shows....

101: Same shit in the Navy even with only 250 people on a ship. I can't tell you how many times I heard we were off to war in 1980 (Iranian hostage crisis era) and were being rerouted to the Persian Gulf when we were in the Med or the Altantic.

Kind of like I do here on the DR, I'd point out the facts to people like, "Is this ship heading east or are we doing our usualy back and forth submarine searching?" Of course we had our share of buffalo bobs who would point out that maybe we weren't really heading east. (as if the Department of the Navy somehow manipulated the position of the sun so as to fool stupid sailors at sea)

oops

point out that maybe we weren't really heading east =

point out that maybe we were really heading east

Some of you need to check out "Hell in the Pacific" on the History channel. That will give you an idea of what war is all about......

Oh but if you can't stand the sight of US marines finishing off wounded Japanese then pass....

"Some of you need to check out "Hell in the Pacific" on the History channel. That will give you an idea of what war is all about......"

Yep, the goal of any military during war should be to destroy the enemy. It shouldn't be winning hearts and minds and spreading democracy. If only our CIC had watched "Hell in the Pacific" before sending our military to police some third world shifest......

If only our CIC had watched "Hell in the Pacific" before sending our military to police some third world shifest......

Sully, we were liberating a nation of grateful people who were going to give us their oil.
It was a big rightwing talking point, even from super expert McSame. Do try and keep up.

If only the C-in-C had of stopped snorting coke before he damaged his brain to the point where he could delude himself into believing he was a war President.

***** What'd the Iraqi's do?
...Posted by LeeAtwater *****

.......they died.........

"Yep, the goal of any military during war should be to destroy the enemy."

Sully,

You stuck on stupid? The goal of the military in a war is to remove the enemy's will to fight. BushCo did the opposite in Iraq. Making it known to your enemy you will mercilessly kill them will cause them to fight to death to the last one. Makes war very expensive.

**** Kind of makes one wonder when this type of stuff will start happening in the US if one does not agree with a policy.
....Posted by Unclesam *****

......remember the unarmed black guy who was shot 30+ times by four cops......

......he committed the unpardonable crime of "walking home from work at night while black".......

Disgraceful. Utterly disgraceful.

"You stuck on stupid? The goal of the military in a war is to remove the enemy's will to fight. BushCo did the opposite in Iraq. Making it known to your enemy you will mercilessly kill them will cause them to fight to death to the last one. Makes war very expensive."

Huh? If we had a real reason to be in Iraq and we were really hitting anyone who oppposed us as hard as we could (which means a city like Fallujah would be a crater right now), you really think they'd still want to fight us? Because I seem to remember Saddam pretty easily controlling their will to fight with alot less force than we could bring. You destroy an enemy's will to fight by beating the shit out of them. And really, considering most men there own their own AK, the resistance in Iraq is pretty weak. They kill each other more than they kill our soldiers.

The reason we still have resistance at all is that we don't know who to fight. There isn't even an enemy over there as Iraqis are now our "friends". By making this debacle all about their hearts and minds and what type of government they choose, we put victory 100% in their hands. If they are emboldened at all it is due to the fact that we've given them all the power.

I'm not saying we should be in Iraq at all. We shouldn't. We never had a good reason. But if we ever find ourselves in a situation where we have a good reason to fight a war, the best chance to win is to go all out without concern to how enemy civilians feel about us. Our reason for fighting should be solid enough that we don't care how they feel or what happens to them when the war is over.

If they are emboldened at all it is due to the fact that we've given them all the power.

Like we did the French, Dutch, Belgians, Chinese in WW2. Sully, this was not a defensive war against an enemy who declared war on the US. This was a pre-emptive, pre-planned (long before 9-11)war based on deluded ideologies and stupid people.

If you are talking about a war of "liberation" turning into a war against the liberated, I suggest you look at Germany and the Ukraine in WW2.

When our soldiers take prisoners of war, libs and the ACLU whine and work to let them go free to kill more American soldiers. Although libs and the ACLU are cowards and traitors they force our troops to TAKE NO PRISONERS!

Posted by fwthom

blah blah blah blah

zero substance as usual.

"Like we did the French, Dutch, Belgians, Chinese in WW2."

This has nothing to do with anything I said.

"Sully, this was not a defensive war against an enemy who declared war on the US. This was a pre-emptive, pre-planned (long before 9-11)war based on deluded ideologies and stupid people."

Why are you telling me this when I've repeatedly said we shouldn't be there?

"If you are talking about a war of "liberation" turning into a war against the liberated, I suggest you look at Germany and the Ukraine in WW2."

No, that isn't what I was talking about at all.

Laylakerunner made a comment basically saying that during WWII we executed enemy prisoners and nobody cared and that probably has something to do with why we won. So I responded to him by saying, Yes you win wars by destroying the enemy but we can't do that in this case because our reason for being there is winning hearts and minds and you can't do that by killing people. So we shouldn't be there because winning hearts and minds is not a military objective.

Then for some reason Furio decided to take issue with the destroying the enemy part of my comment as if you win wars by making people like you so that they don't want to fight anymore - a statement that betrays an ignorance to the entirety of human history. Wars are won by killing.

Then for some other reason, you decided to respond to me as if I've taken some position that I don't even understand.

Live or Please Die, and 101- I can't believe the best you racist, xenophobes cuold muster up against me is to point out my slip of the keyboard. Let me clarify then what I meant to say. I hope you two both die of the worst kind of cancer and don't bring into this world white trash of your ilk. Capeche!!

"The thing I wonder about this is how many tours of duty had these guys endured and secondly, had any of them reported any psychological problems before hand. I suspect that the trauma of watching your buddies get killed or horribly wounded, perhaps several times would make even the strongest of us do things we didn't think we would ever be capable of. I believe they should be tried but their mental state should be taken into account."--Danni

I agree. During the Vietnam war, no one spent their entire tour in combat every day, and the nightmare was over in one year. The new soldiers are compelled to do multiple back-to-back tours, and are in danger every day. I continue to be amazed we are not hearing about more "war crimes." What concerns me more is that only lower-ranking NCO's and enlisted people ever get tried for war crimes in Iraq. The people who actually make command decisions seem to get a pass. That sucks, and should be rectified.

Well, the army tried to prosecute one fellow in a civilian court. Prosecuting soldiers for "civilian crimes" is sort of silly, and the civilian venue certainly makes it so. Civilizn standards make conviction difficult. Where's the body? Where are the forensics?

Shucks. In a combat situation, adrenalin flows.

But in the mind of a lefty, violence is always sanitized, and there is an overflow valve to contain emotions.

In WWII, the Germans on their Western Front would hole up and inflict heavy casualties on American forces, then exit their fortifications with hands up shouting "Kamerad. Kamerad." Apparently because of their deficient German, some of the GIs thought the Germans were yelling "Shoot me," and graciously complied.

These artificial restrictions on human behavior where life and death situations exist, are downright ridiculous.

Hey, our people are "bad," and the "terrorists" are good, since lefties are inalterably opposed to America and Americans unless they're waving placards denouncing our troops and Bush.

Posted by AntiCadillac at 2008-08-27 10:47 PM

I just hope theres a war between America and Russia and that Russia drops some huge,many mega_ton nuclear warheads on the largest American populatiion centers!!!

Anti, you certainly hold the moral high ground with your sense of compassion, care, and morality well demonstrated. Bask in your glory.

By the way, do you feel alienated from most people? I suppose when you represent "good" and others represent "evil," it is incumbent upon you to denounce evil, and your society which from your perspective is the most hateful one around.

You certainly inspire us to be more caring with your example.

May you survive any cataclysmic encounter, or an apocalypse, since the world needs to be peopled with wonderful saintly souls such as yourself.

Posted by Redsoxfan at 2008-08-27 11:18 PM

Cabo- You truly are a POS. Your flippant and crude remarks are going to be outdated and you'll soon become a relic of the past. I deserve cancer of the worst kind and lets pray to God that you don't have offspring (demon seed). Let me see if the profile fits. Your between the ages of 25-35, you're single, community college education at best(I begrudingly give you as much)you're anti-social(you basically like to torture animals)and you play violent video games and get off on them. Is that about right? Cabo...go kill yourself.

These lefties are renegades, who seem to want to harm their own, and those operating in their behalf.

Anyone who voices another opinion copntrary to the lefty's, is of course stupid and uneducated, since the lefty is good (as demonstrated in this lefty's post recited here), and anyone not subscribing to lefty writ is malevolent.

As this lefty here, Red, has demonstrated he is a pacifist type of guy, who can't stand violence, seeing people hurt, wishing anyone ill, or viewing anyone suffering. That must be his vision of himself.

But wait, with his hateful screed, you'd think that he was a sadist. I suppose that it goes to prove that you can't trust lefties with power since they are so "over the edge," and hateful, and are just waiting for the opportunity to harm people.

Good malediction Lefty Red. Where did all of that hate come from? How long did it take it to accumulate? It seems to have been festering awhile, feeding on itself.

Posted by furio at 2008-08-28 01:25 PM

"Yep, the goal of any military during war should be to destroy the enemy."

Sully,

You stuck on stupid? The goal of the military in a war is to remove the enemy's will to fight. BushCo did the opposite in Iraq. Making it known to your enemy you will mercilessly kill them will cause them to fight to death to the last one. Makes war very expensive.

It may be that from a strategic perspective, a goal is to remove the enemy's will to fight. One of the ways to do that is to inflict overwhelming casualties, while he is impotent in terms of reciprocation. Some opponents are conditioned to fight to the death, and even commit suicide as suicide bombers. You neutralize them any way you can, certainly not by showing forebearance but through demoralization.

I wonder where and from whom you derived your ideas as to doctrine. Your ideas seem formulated by someone unacquainted with "the facts on the ground."

For the grunts on the line, the function is "to kill." Forget the niceties. As for shooting "dead men," a friend of mine was killed by a putatively dead man, actually a wounded man feigning death, who shot and killed one of ours. He also was quickly dispatched. But these tentative tactics only result in harm to our own forces. That's why a provident tactic is to insure the enemy is "ineffective." The best way to render someone ineffective is to kill him, unless of course, a creep like Murtha uses a death to try to malign our people.