Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Sen. Hillary Clinton -- perhaps with an introductory speech by daughter Chelsea -- will speak tonight at the Democratic National Convention.

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YAAAAAY!!!

-Corky and Hagbard

Buck says she cries.

Why?

God I hope this is as entertaining as I think its gonna be.

Bunch of stupid-ass, self-destructing liberal pukes.

The "Producers" and "Director" are praying she stays on script. I hope she thows a few down and has that great Helen Reddy classic cranked up on the old IPod before she walks out.

"Snowbird?"

I have goose bumps all over. YIPPIE !!!!!!!!

I should have clarified that I meant "Why is Chelsea introducing Hillary doesn't anyone remember who she is?". Not that I'm gonna watch it cause I'll be busy brushing the ferret's teeth.

"God I hope this is as entertaining as I think its gonna be."

Posted by Pinche_Mao

You're actually going to watch it, aren't you?

I'd rather watch my Coastal grow.


Hilton/Black in 08

"Why is Chelsea introducing Hillary"

Yeah, considering she's so ugly.

Sincerely,
John McCain

It's like going to the zoo...

Posted by Pinche_Mao

Teddy played the half-witted, drunken Sloth last night.

"It's like going to the zoo..."

Posted by Pinche_Mao

I guess you like chimps throwing shit.

Can't say I blame the chimps.


Hilton/Black '08

Soon seen on YouPorn.

Honest.

"It's like going to the zoo...

Posted by Pinche_Mao "

That would more accurately describe reading one of your Neanderthal-like posts. You must have a lot of callouses built up on those knuckles.

"You must have a lot of callouses built up on those knuckles."

Posted by nullifidian

Someone has to muck out the stalls.

www.farcry.com

You must have a lot of callouses built up on those knuckles.

Oh.

You mean from dragging them?

ah ha ha

You're a witty dude, Bill.

ha

I will be watching 21. Heard it is a good movie.

Talk about someone fighting adversity and being underpaid...Chelsea's makeup artist

"Neanderthal-like"

You insult our cousins.

news.bbc.co.uk

"Early stone tools developed by our species Homo sapiens were no more sophisticated than those used by our extinct relatives the Neanderthals.

That is the conclusion of researchers who recreated and compared tools used by these ancient human groups.

The findings cast doubt on suggestions that more advanced stone technologies gave modern humans a competitive edge over the Neanderthals.

The work by a US-British team appears in the Journal of Human Evolution. "

Point, point, clap clap clap.

Point, point.

Shit eating grin.

Buck she cries, five bucks her flesh-colored mask falls off to reveal the alien face from "V" complete with forked tongue.

How would anyone know what's going on at the convention when all the network pundits do is interview each other?

I'm listening to static on 14.3 MHz;
Vastly more interesting.

Hilton/Black in '08!

Now, Zat, you know Hillary sends little chills down your spine.
Or was it up your leg? I forget. hahaha

"I forget. hahaha"

Posted by CalifChris

Actually it's my colon.


How would anyone know what's going on at the convention when all the network pundits do is interview each other?

Posted by nullifidian

No shit.

"It's like going to the zoo..."

Posted by Pinche_Mao

The monkeys stand for honesty
Giraffes are insincere
And the elephants are kindly but they're dumb
Ourang-outangs are skeptical
Of changes in their cages
And the zookeeper is very fond of rum

Zebras are reactionaries
Antelopes are missionaries
Pigeons plot in secrecy
And hamsters turn on frequently
What a gas
Ya gotta come and see
At the zoo

www.lyricsdownload.com

DRAMA MOMENT

I've been hearing over and over a story that as the delegate votes from each state are being called out and apportioned to either Obama or Hillary, when it comes to New York state Hillary is suppose to then step in and -- ((( drama moment ))) -- say "I want ALL my delegate votes to go to Obama."

At least that's the way it's suppose to play out.

Expect this:

x-entertainment.com

(Scroll down a bit)

Bill Clinton in Denver again undercuts Obama


thehill.com

"Now, Zat, you know Hillary sends little chills down your spine."

More like diarrhea down my colon.

"Bill Clinton in Denver again undercuts Obama "

Once an ass, always an ass.

I wouldn't trust Hillary to change a bandage much less anything else.

Larry

This should be fun. Let's see if Hillary really does turn over her delegate votes to Obama.

Or will Hillary hang tough, refuse to turn over her delegate votes, and turn into an Obama nutcracker.

The drama continues....

Bills geting a BJ from some underage intern.

Where's Murphy?


"Bill Clinton in Denver again undercuts Obama "


Once an ass, always an ass.

Posted by nullifidian

How fast the President with the highest approval ratings upon leaving office has fallen, eh?

Can I live stream the convention from some website here on my computer?

I'm tired of running back and forth between here and the tv in the den.

He never had my approval, Wisgod.

Try this, Chris.

cspan.org

foxnews.com

Is that Sally Jesse Raphael, Jr.

Is your mom ok?

Thanks, Nulli! I've just live streamed it now. Great, 'cause I'd like to watch it and look at this thread at the same time when Hillary gives her speech. Guess that's about 9:00 p.m.

You're so funny, Lipzoidial, you crack me up.

These speeches are making me nod out. I'll check back when things really get going.

NFL Channel baby

Thanks, Nulli! I've just live streamed it now.
Posted by CalifChris

Ditto.

Oh God, cue up the violins....

www.foxnews.com


better coverage

James Carville is beating Mary as we watch.



Bunch of stupid-ass, self-destructing liberal pukes.

Posted by Pinche_Mao

Still a freak, eh, pinchy? lol

Tell us again what a wonderful job your war criminal dipshit texas turd is doing in the White House. Can't wait to hear from you.

"Guess that's about 9:00 p.m."

Between 7 and 8. That's when network coverage kicks in.

PINCHE is a great example of a lot of foul mouthed Republicans:

"My daddy gave me money so I'm a real big shot"

Too bad the kid didn't have the moxie to make it on his own, yet shoots his mouth off here like he's some successful person, forgetting the fact he didn't earn it. Luck of the birth lottery.

Remind you of any Presidents you can think of?

Miniman stikes me as a kid who alway's showed up on the playground after school for a fight. Of course the he made sure the bus was out of site with the combatant on board.

"www.foxnews.com"

Shit. They are just like all the other cable networks, interviewing themselves.

Hey there!

Still working-but watching --


What do folks think of Morris' analysis that the better Hillary looks the worse Biden will look?

Remind you of any Presidents you can think of?

Posted by AMERICANUNITY

JFK?

WISGOD reminds me of a troll who sits on the Comments section waiting....waiting.....waiting

Hope your house burns down moron

Oh, and mind your own business.....TROLL

JFK tried to help people. In fact, there are probably a lot of benefits you got WISGOD he was responsible for.

Oh, and you're a troll. The lowest form of blogger.

How's McCain doing in Wisconsin, WISGOD?

Oh, ya...he's way behind.

Hope your house burns down moron


Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Not a problem. I pay for a 100% replacement homeowners policy. You seem to know so much about everyone here; I'm surprised you fucked up. By the way Albert E., I've been posting all night. Now back whell back to the tv tray before the oatmeal get's cold.

I am watching Fox news right now, (I know barf) what pisses me off is that every ad is a John McCain ad, for christ's sake give me a dawn dish soap ad for some variety...

Whell=wheel pops.

And when PINCHE come on here drunk and tells the world his story he's just as fair game for an actually true comment as I was for your moron 'friends' here to make fun of my mother's Parkinson's or my sister's death.

Why do you insist on being an asshole? Won't your wife lay you?

Between 7 and 8. That's when network coverage kicks in.

Good. Gives me a half-hour to roll the three trash cans out to the curb and throw a baked potato in the oven.

You weren't here on this thread. You were sitting on the Comments section with drool running down your mouth.

Kinda like....

you.

Now F- off troll and mind your own business.
Posted by AMERICANUNITY

2nd post, stupid. Buy the site, make the rules.

LilBrit

Just saw you on here. Left you some baby hummingbird photos on yesterday's Nooner.

What's the matter with her voice?

"What do folks think of Morris' analysis that the better Hillary looks the worse Biden will look?"

What did Morris' prostitute, listening in, think?


Between 7 and 8. That's when network coverage kicks in.


Good. Gives me a half-hour to roll the three trash cans out to the curb and throw a baked potato in the oven.


Posted by CalifChris at 2008-08-26 09:30 PM | Reply | Flag

Wow, you must be a long way from the curb or very slow.

Won't your wife lay you?

Posted by AMERICANUNITY

She died last night, you heartless bastard.

Neither one.

WISGOD

You keep running your mouth like you know shit about me.

Do I look like 'pops' in this pic taken this year?

Idiot

i305.photobucket.com

Do I look like 'pops' in this pic taken this year?

You look like a lounge singer with a blurry face.

Do I look like 'pops' in this pic taken this year?

Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Are you related to Johnny, Jimmy, or Charlene?

So, AU, you're a redhead?

"Waitress......"

"Can I have a Martini with a splash of....."

"Failed, one-term President...."

*cue piano scale*

Na, she probably left your ass WISGOD

How's that McCain campaign going in Wisconsin?

Your vote, just like the other idiots here, will count for nothing.

Now crack another beer loser.

Karma's a bitch.

I'll be laughing the loudest when yours catches up to you WISGOD - probably already has, which is why you're an a-hole every single day for 'fun'.

How's that McCain campaign going in Wisconsin?

Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Fine. We're going to ban cigarettes 5 days prior to the general election. You're boy is screwed.

Au, all bullshit aside. You make Corky look non-partisian.

Oh Goody.

Mark Warner.

Getting into the "A" material here.

What do folks think of Morris' analysis that the better Hillary looks the worse Biden will look?

Spud thinks Morris is sowing seeds of divisiveness with a lose/lose proposition.

Spud thinks that the biggest consideration tonight will be Hillary's ability to lead her camp into Obama's with the minimum of fuss.

Will she turn it on like she can or will she offer up a half-assed mailed in performance?

Warner is on now doin' the Keynote thang.

Shhhh!

Be Well.

Ah, the a-holes of the site are gathering.

Smells too bad to stick around.

And, WISGOD, I've voted Republican, but a-holes like you turned me off to the GOP for the rest of my life.

You idiot's don't realize how your snarky, bully asses have turned America off to the GOP. You did it all by yourselves.

Party identity is double digits higher for Democrats because the GOP turned into a bunch of snarky, spoiled morons who were born on third base and think they hit a triple.

Blame yourselves when you lose it all. 2006 was only the start.

You think America is stupid or will ignore the assholes who ran your party into the ground singlehandedly? NOT

OK TROLLS. Ya, trolls - the lowest form of bloggers

And, WISGOD, I've voted Republican, but a-holes like you turned me off to the GOP for the rest of my life.
Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Convictions are a bitch, when someone on a blog gets that deep between your ears.

This guy is a boring piece of crap. Warner, that is, not you AU. Well, ok. You too.

spoiled morons who were born on third base and think they hit a triple.

I think you're trying to project some kind of wholly fabricated strawman/bogeyman onto reality in order to make yourself feel better.

The people who make society function and produce things---open businesses, etc. are Republicans.


What did Morris' prostitute, listening in, think?

Posted by BetelG at 2008-08-26 09:32 PM


What does that mean?

Jesus, no wonder you fuckers smoke so much dope. This guy ends about as quickly as a Grateful Dead song.

Murphy-
re: What does that mean?

Posted by MURPHY

The Clintons forced Morris to resign in shame after it was revealed that he was a profligate whore chaser who even let his paid skank of the day listen in on his conversations with the President. (His wife was none too pleased, it should go without saying)

Morris then set up shop on Fox News bashing the Clintons at every opportunity.

Do you live in a box at the bottom of the sea, or what?

The Clintons forced Morris to resign in shame after it was revealed that he was a profligate whore chaser...

LOL

Pinche-
Pretty much the same reason the Reagans shunned McCain after he cheated profusely on his faithful wife and kids and then dumped his family in a flash when a loaded chick eighteen years his junior agreed to fuck him.

(LOL)

Warner was decent.

"America has never been afraid of the future and we're not gonna start now" resonated.

Strickland's making the "McCain = Bush" point again.

Good.

Some things bear repeating.

Be Well.

/"Bush went into office on third base and then stole second"?

//THAT purely rawked.

Geeze, this guy is boooooring. I'd rather clean the bathtub.

Party identity is double digits higher for Democrats

~AU

Yeah but you have to transfer that to the winning of presidential elections.

And that ain't happening, dipshit.

And deep down, you know it.

~Pink Mao

Au contraire, mon frere.

Has happened.
Is happening.
Will happen.

And deep down, yer oblivious.

Well, at least yer consistant.

^_^

Be Well.

Deval Patrick?

Why isn't he complaining that Obama "stole" his speech?

Oh right, cos he didn't.

G08ama.

Be Well.

Is happening.

Yeah.

That poll bounce is something to behold.

I'm taking November 5th off. :)

You understand how bad the democrat party fucked up, don't you?

Pinche-
re: "You understand how bad the democrat party fucked up, don't you?"

Explain it to us.

Rethugs are the enemies of quality public education?

True.

Good point, well made, PD.

"Democrats don't deserve to win just because the Republicans deserve to lose"

Strewth.

"Not right or left but right or wrong"

Even some people in our own beloved party are afraid of rocking the boat and affecting the status quo?

Some rare honesty there.

Good speech.

08ama '08.

Be Well.

Growing wheat?

Ha! Spud thought he sed "growing weed"

/Moving to Montana soon.
//Yippee Tie-yo Tie-yeah

Be Well.

I'll let you know when something needs to be explained to you, Boyd.

"Moving to Montana soon."

Too late.
Way too late.

Rethugs are the enemies of quality public education?

That's kinda like being the enemy of acrobatic Leprechauns.

I'm taking November 5th off. :)

To recover from the inevitable hangover that will occur after Obama wins and you try to escape the fact by crawling down to the bottom of a bottle of cheap hooch?

^_^

Be Well.

Pinche-
I forgot that you were here to get drunk and yell meaningless obscenities at the kids on "your" lawn.

My bad. Have another beer.

Murphy


Can't believe you give a shit what Morris thinks. He was a liar in the nineties and he's a liar now.


Also can't believe you don't know his background. You might Google "toe sucking" and see what turns up. Might interest you.

Schweizter brings the red meat to the BBQ all the way from Montana.

Hear that sizzling sound?

That's John McCain wrinkly ass.

Dude's done like dinner.

Get a fork.

Ring the bell.

Be Well.

off topic - watching the HD coverage on ABC and the variable, up-and-down volume is fucking annoying.

sorry. carry on...

The people of Pennsylvania can't afford four more years of Bush-Cheney economics, and with John McCain, that's exactly what we'd get. John McCain calls himself a maverick, but he votes with George Bush 90 percent of the time. That's not a maverick. That's a sidekick.

The Bush-McCain Republicans inherited the strongest economy in history and drove it into a ditch. They cut taxes on the wealthiest of us and passed on the pain to the least of us. They ran up the debt, gave huge subsidies to big oil companies, and now they're asking for four more years.

www.politico.com

Who's this Randy Quaid-looking dipshit?

Don't these fuckers have anything better to do than show Bill Clinton? How about just televising whoever is speaking?

Thank god for whoever invented the remote.

Hey you guys--I just asked the question--in fact MSLSD is floating the same premise that HIllary will do her very best to make Biden look like a dork.


Who is this idiot on?

He just lied about the oil in the world..

And almost done with my project...

You used to be worth reading, pinche. Now you're just a tired old bitter sot mumbling on his barstool about all the things he hates in life.

See ya.

Bizarre food with Andrew Zimmern is on travel channel for anyone sick of seeing Bill Clinton.

Betelg- It's sad, isn't it?

Wow, Brian is good warm up guy.

Here comes Chelsea introducing Hillary.

Showtime.

Be Well.

Alexandrite-
He used to actually have something to say. Now he just drools bile and gets angry when bothered to explain himself (which he is obviously no longer capable of doing).

Anyway, gotta go.

Her Most ROYAL Majesty..........

You guys watching this "movie" on Hillary?!?!

I forgot how much she makes me wanna effin' hork!

She looks good. Looks like she lost weight.
Must have been being on that campaign trail for months

"18 million cracks"

Was she talking about her supporters or the number of pansuit jokes folks have made since the campaign began?

/Yes, being quiet now.

Shhhh. It begins.

Be Well.

I think Hillary really loves Bill.
He's the proverbial "bad boy" but I don't think she cares.

She *meant* 18 million crack*heads*.

For all you atheists, proof enough for me of the existence of an all-mighty God is the fact that Hillary lost. That's what I've prayed for--thank you, Jesus.

"A proud American and a proud supporter of Barack Obama"

~Hillary Clinton

Bet some folk's heads asploded when she sed that.

"A single party with a single purpose"

Agreed.

Unite and crush John McSame's oily political machine like a rotten grape.

/Spud paraphrases.

Be Well.

Sorry, guys.


Looks like there'll only be one or two PUMAs left after tonight.


I know you wanted discord amongst the Dems, don't think you're gonna get it.

What a useless lying piece of shit Hillary is. She all but kissed the arse of McCain on the campaign trail now She criticises Him. Can You say talking out of all sides of one's mouth. What a disgrace She is. Now You see Corky why I hate Her so. Bunch of God damned bullshit.

Larry

Is this a convention of lesbian lumberjacks or are the camera operators just looking for those types in the audience?

Is this a convention of lesbian lumberjacks or are the camera operators just looking for those types in the audience?

Mary Cheney has to be dripping like a Polish faucet.

Wow.

Pretty good speech, gotta say. So far.

I was sure Obama would pick the wrong girl. Quad erat demonstrandum.

Boy She is a long winded speaker ain't She. Maybe We could stand Her in front of a windmill and generate enough electricity for 1000 homes with all of that hot air She spews. Dat would work.

Larry

"Sisterhood of the traveling pantsuits"?

Now, Hill's making with the pantsuit jokes?

Wasn't half bad.

She's good tonight.

Touching all the bases.

Health Care.
BushCo's many FAILures.
Education.
Wages down.
Prices up.
People hurtin' at home.
American prestige weakened abroad.
BigOil's lock on the GOP.
Obama will end the war responsibily.
Repair alliances abroad.
Shout out to Michelle.
Nice words fer Joe and Jill.
Nice words fer McCain before eviserating him.
Litany of GOP fAILures.
McCain = Bush.
88th Anniversary of woman's right to vote.
Crowd's totally connecting now.
Keep going.
Bring it home.

She fucking nailed it.

Sweet! ^_^

Be Well.


Is this a convention of lesbian lumberjacks or are the camera operators just looking for those types in the audience?

Posted by kirk at 2008-08-26 10:55 PM | Reply


Is there a republican on this website that isn't 13 years old mentally?

Jesus...

Wow is right. She couldn't have given a more pro-Obama speech.

Qhite a rousing speech by Hillary

Maybe it should be

Hillary/Biden 2008!

Great speech from Hill! In my mind she put any question about her support for Obama to bed.

Best speech of the convention and it's going to be hard for Bill, Biden or Obama to top.

James Dobson is ridiculous for praying that it rains on Obama on Thursday.

He should be praying that Hillary will just go away. Think of the suffering in the world that would end. Think of the children.

It's now dead even in the polls between Obama and McCain.

Obama should be double digits ahead of him.

I think the Dems picked the wrong candidate this time around.

-Bet some folk's heads asploded when she sed that.

Bet most folks already knew that.


I don't know how any Dem could ask any more of her than that speech, particularly considering the previous history of graceless male candidates who weren't expected to, and didn't, put the country and the Party first.

It's up to Obama now.

It's your night to shine, Corky.

Hillary did give a great speech.

Great speech by Hillary -- maybe the best she's ever given, and she did everything that could have been asked of her to get Obama elected president.

I wasn't expecting her to be this good. She hit McCain on the issues, celebrated the historic significance of her candidacy without being too egotistical, and urged the party together. She was 1,000 times better at firing up Democrats than the "keynote" Mark Warner. Whatta dame.

I don't know how any Dem could ask any more of her than that speech ...

No kidding. I take back every snide thought I ever had about Clinton wanting Obama to lose to grease the wheels for a 2012 run.

I think she struggled early, but she found her pace and hit her marks mid-way on. Still not sure whether her intentions are for the Party now or for Hillary '12. In any event, she done good.

Great speech.

4 more years of what we've had is not acceptable. Too much at stake.

Kudos to Hillary. She hit that message on all 8 cylinders.

WHERE WAS SHE THE NIGHT OBAMA WON the nomination?? Took Her until that Saturday to concede?? Puhlease had the situation been reversed and Obama had lost and acted the same way He would have been lambasted by everyone. Don't give Me this speach rocked routine. Actions speak louder than words. I could talk a good game too but it would be meaningless without actions to back them up. The greatest charlatins in the world could speak eloquently.

Larry


Nothing to do with me, Chris. I was a Dennis K supporter, lol!

I just thought she was more electable, and I didn't/don't trust the 50 state theory over what the general electorate has actually done the last 30 years.

Hope to hell I was wrong!

Apparently not, Alexandrite.

You telling me you *didn't* see that overwhelming majority of women that've never even heard of makeup or a mirror or a waistline?

The lesbians around my neck of the woods have a better sense of style than the group shown on camera tonight.

No offense to lesbians in the comparisons...

Retardicans aren't happy tonight.

She never mentioned Obama has the experience --no alcolades like that. Nothing like that..

She did have some zingers--

The twin city comment was funny.

She copied the No McCain from the Nobama --


She did good--don't know if the PUMA's will be satisfied.

There are like 200 outside the doors who couldn't get in.

And Obama is 2 points down today..

Finished my invoicing--dang..

Democrats made a big big mistake.
They cannonized the wrong candiate and today's polls now are proving it. Neck and neck.

Obama just doesn't stir any real passion in the voters when he speaks.

Sorry, Obamafans. The Emperor has no clothes.

Kudos to Hillary. She hit that message on all 8 cylinders.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Yeah Busta Move. It's great now, isn't it? Wind coming through the passengers side window of the Conversion Van tonight?

And, WISGOD, I've voted Republican, but a-holes like you turned me off to the GOP for the rest of my life.
Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Convictions are a bitch, when someone on a blog gets that deep between your ears.

Posted by wisgod

Happened long before I got a load of the Newt Gingrich/Tom Delay/Karl Rove/Rush Limbaugh parrots on this site.

My convictions have to do with the government working on behalf of the people, not for the benefit of the big bucks multinationals who could care less if you make your house payment, can make a living wage, or have the tools to achieve the American dream - a dream that's slipping away for far too many.

The GOP has been long on rhetoric and very short on positive results for average Americans. They've left us in a hell of a mess.

85% of America thinks we're headed in the wrong direction. Well, America knows, and will be reminded over and over the next couple of months, who drove the bus in the ditch. Three letters - G O P

Nulli,

I'll speak for the "retardicans"

1
I never quite "bought" that she was going to subvert Obama

2
After watching her speech, I thought "we've got this in November."

I voted for Bill before. But she is simply *unbelievable*
...Not in a good way, in the sense that there's not a real living soul behind her empty words. Her soul is as dead as millions of fetuses from the Clinton years.

What is it about Obama You hate so much CalifChris. You all but send Him to the pits of hell no matter what. Hell You tried to declare Him Ineligable to run for the Presidency?? What gives?? It ain't over til the fat lady sings and hunny My dress ain't showed up yet.

Larry

You're doing a horrible job with your 101 imitation, WISGOD

His act is old, and now you try to steal it?

Yawn

Lot of fans in the room for Hillary--

She should have been the nominee--

My convictions have to do with the government working on behalf of the people, not for the benefit of the big bucks multinationals who could care less if you make your house payment, can make a living wage, or have the tools to achieve the American dream - a dream that's slipping away for far too many.
Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Translation: My hands out; show me the "golden years" green.

I don't know how any Dem could ask any more of her than that speech,

~Corky.

she did everything that could have been asked of her to get Obama elected president.

~RCade

Agreed.

This bodes well.

Be Well.

/almost done with my project...

~Murphy.

//Knitting yerself a new pair of blinders?

///Admittedly just a guess there.

////Spud's outta here fer the nonce, exiting the DR, as ya do,
stage left.


You're doing a horrible job with your 101 imitation, WISGOD


His act is old, and now you try to steal it?


Yawn


Posted by AMERICANUNITY

If it was working, you'd be logged into the KOS by now, shill.


Nice thread title change, RC! Maybe Obama will take up that line.

Bubba gets a chance to thrill the crowd tomorrow night. Who wants to bet he won't?

She was perfect. Wonderful job, Hillary!

WISGOD

Here....this should provide a troll like you with hours of entertainment:

A Troll for a Troll

OK, I'll leave this thread to those who are decent people who have something to say without being obnoxious trolls sitting in the Comments section waiting to be snarky

Great job Hillary

Here....this should provide a troll like you with hours of entertainmen.
Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Don't you have something better to do, like sweet talk Corky.
Hell, he even knows that you are a kool-aid drinking, two-faced shill.

She plagarized that saying--No way No How No Mccain.


From the GOP side of NOBAMA.


Guess which one the GOP will be saying...

It will be interesting to see how Bill does this trick.

Both he and Hillary can't stand Obama--

She did a great speech though--giving credit where credit is due.

I thought it was a Joke... She is a nut job just like the rest of you.... Oh ya change... change.... Bush... Change... bush... McCain.... Bla... Bla... Bla.... same shit dif day...

Has any one read the lyrics to the U2 song Obama is entering the stage with? It is very fitting....

"City of Blinding Lights" is the song..

The more you see the less you know
The less you find out as you go
I knew much more then than I do now

Neon heart day-glow eyes
A city lit by fireflies
They're advertising in the skies
For people like us

And I miss you when you're not around
I'm getting ready to leave the ground

Oh you look so beautiful tonight
In the city of blinding lights

Don't look before you laugh
Look ugly in a photograph
Flash bulbs purple irises
The camera can't see

I've seen you walk unafraid
I've seen you in the clothes you made
Can you see the beauty inside of me?
What happened to the beauty I had inside of me?

(cut)

And I miss you when you're not around
I'm getting ready to leave the ground

Oh you look so beautiful tonight
In the city of blinding lights

Time...time...time...time...ti
me
Won't leave me as I am
But time won't take the boy out of this man

Oh you look so beautiful tonight
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
Oh you look so beautiful tonight
In the city of blinding lights

The more you know the less you feel
Some pray for others steal
Blessings are not just for the ones who kneel... luckily

McCain just doesn't stir any real passion in the voters when he speaks.

There CChris. Spud Fixed That Fer Ya.

Not only does McCain inspire boredom in the Dems and the Indy's but the GOPhers themselves have a hard time keeping their eyes open when he speaks too.

He's the least liked, least inspiring GOPher candidate EVAR.

/Spud includes Bob Dole and Dan Quayle in that assesment.

Check the increased numbers of self identified Dems this time around.

Check the crowds that turn up to Watch Obama and listen to him orate.

Check yer head.

Obama's gonna win.

Be Well.

/Well and truly gone now.

Great speech. Gonna be a tough one for Obama to top, but she put a stake in the heart of those who thought she'd try and torpedo Obama.

Don't be surprised if she declines the nomination from the floor tomorrow.

And the Republicans have been giving good speeches supporting Obama. Somebody must be lacing some of the GOP koolaid with smart pills...


Mao loves Hillary! Mao loves Hillary!

Ha ha ha ha - ha ha!

(Sorry!)

What is it about Obama You hate so much CalifChris. You all but send Him to the pits of hell no matter what. Hell You tried to declare Him Ineligable to run for the Presidency?? What gives?? It ain't over til the fat lady sings and hunny My dress ain't showed up yet.

Posted by LarryMohr at 2008-08-26 11:36 PM

Shut up, Larry. I don't "hate" Obama, you 'tard.
But I'm not stupid either. I don't think he'll win against McCain and then we'll be stuck with 4 more years of Bush's disasterous policies.

As for the lawsuit on Obama's birthplace, don't even try to go up against me on legalities and legal issues. You don't have a clue what they are about. It wasn't because I'm out to "get Obama," you idiot. I'm not the one who filed the lawsuit. Besides, I was explaining it detail to Taxman, not you. Don't worry, the lawyer who filed the lawsuit hasn't even served the complaint on Obama yet. (Even know what that means? ) If you haven't been around here for weeks then you haven't read my posts. I am no fan of McCain. BUT I don't want to lose the election because the Dems just may have picked the wrong candidate.

YOU TELL ME why Obama is dead even right now in the polls against McCain who has made no secret about the fact that he will copy Bush's policies to the letter. Well, let's hear your words of wisdom explaining that one.

Drinking game for McSame's speech-a shot for each "my friends"and a beer for each " I was a POW mention". And a coffee for each Bush mention.

He's the least liked, least inspiring GOPher candidate EVAR.

But he's beating The One in the polls.

Even as The One is in the throes of his convention.

Which goes along ways towards illustrating how upset you're going to be this November.

Gimme 500 shares of whoever makes Prozac.

"The democrat nominee should be up 20 points."

Bullshit. He's new, he's unknown, and he's black. This mantra that he should be up by some large margin is just political gamesmanship.

SHe will have the entire roll call done tomorrow night--it is her right to do this--all the men in the Dem past have done it--she should too.

Unless she stops them at NY--but doubt it.

And wait for the Dems who will speak for McCain at the GOP time parade.

Larry, hint: Your Party selected the wrong candidate, and Corky was right from day 1.

Posted by dethspud at 2008-08-26 11:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yeah dipshit, his poll numbers support all you say.

rwd

BUT I don't want to lose the election because the Dems just may have picked the wrong candidate.

It's a little late for that, m'lady.

Heres something for you Obama suppoters to chew on.

Flag pin? I don't wear no stinkin flag pin.


www.newsbusters.org


rwd

This mantra that he should be up by some large margin is just political gamesmanship.

Actually, this mantra that he should be up by some large margin is the culmination of 8 years of increasingly shrill, irrational bullshit written by dipshits like you---on blogs like this.

What would happen if McCain picks rice as VP. The dems would be done for. Black Woman... Not to mention she would eat Biden for lunch...

do you ever have anything constructive or intelligent to say, pinche? Christ, you're like a completely bitter broken man now.

I rest my case.


"I would hit it.

Someone finally power-washed the ugly off that bitch."

LOLOLOLOLOL

"Larry, hint: Your Party selected the wrong candidate, and Corky was right from day 1."

Of course rightwingers like you and Pinochet want to sow division. That's good politics. If Hillary had won you people would be chanting Whitewater, Travelgate, Vince Foster, Jim Mcdougal, missing billing records, etc., 24/7.

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 12:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

link?

I would think you could never get that off.

But then again i'm drinking Jack tonight.

rwd

do you ever have anything constructive or intelligent to say, pinche? Christ, you're like a completely bitter broken man now.

Oh shut the fuck up, Heidi.

Nut up and deal with the incompetence of your party.

Go Unions!


-Not to mention she would eat Biden for lunch...

You have pics?


-I would hit it.


He's trying to be constructive, Alex.

Shut up, Larry. I don't "hate" Obama, you 'tard.
But I'm not stupid either. I don't think he'll win against McCain and then we'll be stuck with 4 more years of Bush's disasterous policies.


As for the lawsuit on Obama's birthplace, don't even try to go up against me on legalities and legal issues. You don't have a clue what they are about. It wasn't because I'm out to "get Obama," you idiot. I'm not the one who filed the lawsuit. Besides, I was explaining it detail to Taxman, not you. Don't worry, the lawyer who filed the lawsuit hasn't even served the complaint on Obama yet. (Even know what that means? ) If you haven't been around here for weeks then you haven't read my posts. I am no fan of McCain. BUT I don't want to lose the election because the Dems just may have picked the wrong candidate.


YOU TELL ME why Obama is dead even right now in the polls against McCain who has made no secret about the fact that he will copy Bush's policies to the letter. Well, let's hear your words of wisdom explaining that one.

Posted by CalifChris at 2008-08-26 11:59 PM | Reply


Not with THAT attitude He won't win against John McCain. Oh and as far as going up aghainst You on the legalities on Obama's citizenship. Hunny Puhlease all You need is some common sense to grasp the subject matter. He was born in Hawaii in 61. Hawaii became a State in 1959. You do the math CalifChris?? BTW dead even is better than being 20 points ahead. Remember Hillary was 20 points ahead on Pennsylvania and She lost Her ass big time. Slow and Steady wins the race not a huge lead.

Larry

"increasingly shrill, irrational bullshit written by dipshits like you---on blogs like this. "

Talk about shrill. You're the moron that calls Obama a communist. Dumbass.

It's not my party, you stupid faux cowboy.
They're just better than the troglodytes you vote for.

You add nothing to this website but bile, and when your comments gets dumped...whining about rcades moderation.

WTF happened to you? Is married life so bad?

Someone here the other day, don't know who, commented on the polls thusly:


How is it possible that a white, war hero, former POW with 26 years of experience in Washington is only just barely tied with a black man who is an "empty suit" with "zero experience"?


Be as smug as you want, RWD.

"You have pics?"

I have Photo shop. I could make it happen....

I rest my case.

What "case" is that?

That the discourse should be elevated to levels like this?:

do you ever have anything constructive or intelligent to say, pinche? Christ, you're like a completely bitter broken man now.



That the discourse should be elevated to levels like this?:

"I'd hit it"

"shut the fuck up, heidi"

"Obama is a communist Unamerican piece of shit"

Elevated? lol. Shut the fuck up, indeed.

You're the moron that calls Obama a communist. Dumbass

I'm pretty sure he is.

Dumbass.

gnight califChris laters

I'm pretty sure he is.


Dumbass.

You couldn't elevate the conversation from out of a coal mine, pinche.

It's not my party, you stupid faux cowboy.

Oh, it certainly seems to be, you stupid faux Working Class Hero.

The party of people who think they're owed a job that pays them 60K a year to turn a fucking bolt.

"I'm pretty sure he is."

I'm pretty sure that anyone who really thinks Obama is a communist is a fucking loon.

-It's not my party, you stupid faux cowboy.

I don't know. I've seen pics of him in just his chaps, and he's pretty hot. San An said he almost had a heart attack.

You couldn't elevate the conversation from out of a coal mine, pinche.

I could if I hung out with guys that came up with insults that witty all the time.

You'd better be kidding.


Not me.

"Communism attempts to offer an alternative to the problems believed to be inherent with capitalist economies and the legacy of imperialism and nationalism. Communism states that the only way to solve these problems would be for the working class, or proletariat, to replace the wealthy bourgeoisie, which is currently the ruling class, in order to establish a peaceful, free society, without classes, or government."

Wow it's Obama....

I'm pretty sure he is (a Communist)

Dumbass. - Pinche Mao


Well, since we now know that Pinche Mao is taken by Chelsea's vagina, we know how seriously to take his other posts.

There's probably a few Communist vaginas out there too - HIT Them dude!

Mention Obama is a negro again, pinche. it's almost been half an hour since the last time.

"Posted by libslayer at 2008-08-27 12:22 AM | "

And in chimes another dipshit.

Posted by TedBaxter at 2008-08-27 12:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

What? McCain is comming from behind while Obama is losing ground.
Get your prioritys in check.
Check out the ayers photo on my post above.
Obama is going down.


rwd

"And in chimes another dipshit."

WOW... that was good.....


by the way Alexandrite "Negro" is a racist word according to your people.....

Libslayer- it depends on the context.

There's probably a few Communist vaginas out there too - HIT Them dude!

I drug my right-wing nuts across Katrina Van Den Heuvel's face one time.

Does that count?


"it depends on the context"

So saying "you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy" Is that Racist context?

Nice try, libslayer.

If Obama had a problem with Biden's comments, he wouldn't have picked him as his VP.

Or maybe this context " DE was a slave state that fought beside the North. Thats only because we couldnt figure out how to get to the South. There were a couple of states in the way.--

"If Obama had a problem with Biden's comments, he wouldn't have picked him as his VP."

It's not Obama who has the problem.... DUMB ASS....

"A man is known by the company he keeps."

--- Saki


www.bartleby.com

www.newsbusters.org

Oh, it certainly seems to be, you stupid faux Working Class Hero.


The party of people who think they're owed a job that pays them 60K a year to turn a fucking bolt.

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 12:18 AM | Reply | Flag


If you had any reading comp, you'd know I said I WASNT middle class, and I DIDN'T have a union job.

Unlike you, I will admit to having money. Moron.

What would happen if McCain picks rice as VP

Never happen.

Cheney doesn't like her because she's too moderate.

She'll come out for Obama, along with Colin Powell, right after the GOP fais-do-do.

www.msnbc.msn.com

If Obama had a problem with Biden's comments, he wouldn't have picked him as his VP.

Biden's comments didn't have anything to do with the selection one way or another--whether The One had a problem with them or not.

Empty Suits need an element of respectability to bring to the table.

When you're a democrat, that means adding a 60+ year old plagiarist to your ticket.

See you in November.

--whether The One had a problem with them or not.

They already had a phone conversation over it. Obama didn't care, because unlike some people here, he understood what biden meant.

If you had any reading comp, you'd know I said I WASNT middle class

Wow.

I'm curious.

What's the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?

You tell me, Mr. "blue collar" worker with 3 different jobs: Was that really the best you could do with all those degrees, or are you a lying again?

Let's see,

Biden claimed to have not plagiarized a speech in '87;

Claimed to attend law school on a full scholarship;

Claimed to have graduated in the top 1/2 of his law school class.


Anyone care to guess which of the above is true/not true?

TRICK QUESTION! ALL are true. Even the liberal Slate takes issue with it!!! Source: www.slate.com

Biden is change we can believe in!!!

You tell me, Mr. "blue collar" worker with 3 different jobs

As far as I know, I've got one job.

And it's not "blue collar".

Honest mistake on your part.

That's what happens when your intellectual impotence and chronic insecurity forces you to fabricate a caricature that helps you make sense of things.

I remain curious.


What's the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?

As far as I know, I've got one job.


Uh huh. You raise cattle, right?

So you moonlight for enviro services for other people,(you get "paid for your knoweledge") AND give rich hunters tours?

Sounds like 3 jobs. Not 1. You have at LEAST 2 by your own words. And none pay all that well, by your words.

So how did this happen...Aren't your degreed worth a shit? I've met a lot of people that work ONE job and get paid quite a bit with less of an education than you've boasted having.

Gambling problem, pinche?

www.gopusa.com/commentary/
ckincaid/2008/ck_0508p.shtml


I remain curious.


What's the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?


Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 12:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

Google it, "dipshit". I'm not in the mood to be quizzed by a neaderthal.

Let's see, in the last month:

McCain plagiarized the Solzhenitsyn cross in the dirt story.

McCain Plagiarized Wikipedia for his Georgia speech.

McCain twice referred to Czechoslovakia, a nation that hasn't existed since 1989.

He's obviously on top of his game.

I said I WASNT middle class

I don't know that I've ever been able to say that to anybody.

"I'm this class, not that class."

What an amazing method of self-assessment.

I can only assume there's some quantitative criteria upon which one can make some assertion.

Do tell.

Apparently reinheitsgebot is NOT voting for either Obama or McCain. Way to go!!!

PS: you're further ahead of most who think Obama poops gold and will cause the sea level to go down.

Pinche Mao & Alexandrite,

Are you two really going to compare jobs and stuff? You're on an internet forum!!! Burn your voter cards immediately!!!

That's what happens when your intellectual impotence and chronic insecurity forces you to fabricate a caricature that helps you make sense of things.

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 12:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

Like: Obama is an empty suit commie?

Projection is a beautiful thing.

"Are you two really going to compare jobs and stuff? You're on an internet forum!!! Burn your voter cards immediately!!!"

LOLOLOL

Google it, "dipshit". I'm not in the mood to be quizzed by a neaderthal.

I shouldn't have to Google it.

A guy who can so earnestly proclaim that he's "NOT" middle class ought to have a pretty decent ideas as to what "middle class" is.

Don't you think?

What's the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?

Help me here, Tiny Dancer.

I can only assume there's some quantitative criteria upon which one can make some assertion.


Do tell.

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 12:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

So am I lower class or upper? Make your own assessment, pinche. No matter what I tell you, that's what you'll do anyway.

"That's what happens when your intellectual impotence and chronic insecurity forces you to fabricate a caricature that helps you make sense of things."

Ya dig?

Ay, we all have to live with Bill Clinton's ego.... always wanting to be the bride in every wedding.

He didn't know how to step back and let others shine: he made Al Gore the loser in 2000, and he might make Barack Liberal Messiah Obama lose in November.

He got a payback by making Hillary lose.

What a loser.

The solution? Blame it all on King George....

What's the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?



Nice bluff. Do your own homework, ginger.

Someguy2- pinche is the one that runs around bragging about his jobs, and how tough he is. I merely pointed out all the inconsistancies in the story HE shared.(last night)

Truly, I could give a shit. It's just fun pointing out his BS, and far more amusing than hearing "Obama is a commie" for 100th time.

Are you two really going to compare jobs and stuff?

I'm just trying to get to the bottom of the reasoning of an ostensibly grown man with the intellectual and emotional maturity of a 14 year-old girl.

Hey pinche, out of morbid curiousity...whats' the narrative on your stock ownership in THIS thread?

Sometimes you own some, sometimes you don't.

WHo are you playing tonight?

I'm just trying to get to the bottom of the reasoning of an ostensibly grown man with the intellectual and emotional maturity of a 14 year-old girl.

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 01:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

Chelsea:

I would hit it.

Someone finally power-washed the ugly off that bitch.

Damn.

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 12:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

I drug my right-wing nuts across Katrina Van Den Heuvel's face one time.

Does that count?

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 12:30 AM | Reply


Do tell.

Nice bluff. Do your own homework, ginger.

Just answer the question.

What's the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?

Someguy2- pinche is the one that runs around bragging about his jobs

No I don't.

and how tough he is

I think you're projecting your own emotional reaction to my interaction with you.

That must be kind of embarassing for you.

Truly, I could give a shit.

Oh, you very much give a shit.

That's fairly obvious.


whats' the narrative on your stock ownership in THIS thread?

I don't own any stock in this thread.

Oh shut the fuck up, Heidi.

Nut up and deal with the incompetence of your party.

Go Unions!

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 12:11 AM | Reply

Who's this Randy Quaid-looking dipshit?

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-26 10:32 PM | Reply

Yeah but you have to transfer that to the winning of presidential elections.

And that ain't happening, dipshit.

And deep down, you know it.

Sorry :(

Go suffer through your menopause elsewhere.

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-26 09:51 PM | Reply

God I hope this is as entertaining as I think its gonna be.

Bunch of stupid-ass, self-destructing liberal pukes.

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-26 07:34 PM | Reply


I'm just trying to get to the bottom of the reasoning of an ostensibly grown man with the intellectual and emotional maturity of a 14 year-old girl.

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 01:06 AM | Reply

I'd say you're already there, pinche.

What's the net worth cut-off for "middle class", Francis?

I can cut and paste posts, Little One.

What's the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?

I gotta go smoke a cigarette.

Make me another collage.

So are we going to get into a dumb argument about net worth vs annual income?

Or liquid vs non liquid?

I'm curious as to where you are going with this...save some time and get to the point.

or not. later.

You'll just have to forgive me for my fascination and curiosity.

I've never met someone that had a firm enough grasp on the quantitative parameters of "class" to be able to make proclamations like this:

I said I WASNT middle class

So what's the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?

Lower, actual middle, or upper?

Lower, actual middle, or upper?

LOL.

Somebody's been Googling furiously.

I dunno.

Whatever keeps you honest with the following:

I said I WASNT middle class


Lower, actual middle, or upper?

Do you get a Certificate of Achievment when you attain either of the above?


Instead of bugging me to try and get me to tell you what I make a year, and what my net worth is...(thats what all of this is really about)

Go google a census bereau if you want the hardcore numbers not from my memory.

Just because you're too stupid to keep from bragging about your personal life, doesn't mean you can suck me into that mistake.

I wouldn't say "dandy", but I was smart enough not to be some unionized piece of shit that thought $100,00 a year to turn a bolt was a sustainable way to make a living.

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-26 03:22 AM

Last night it was $100,000. Tonight it's $60,000

A few more nights and he'll be down around where most 'bolt turners' are these days - barely making ends meet, if they still have a job that hasn't been sent to China.

I'd be really curious to see how this Texas swagger boy's math skills are. Even at UAW wages at the Big Three it's still isn't $50,000 a year (before state and federal taxes, insurance, pension deductions, dues, and SS withdrawals). And they're the highest paid union employees in the nation. Most union jobs pay less. Most of them are in areas that are not cheap to live in.

WTF is wrong with making enough to support a family?

Of course, when you live off daddy's good graces like PINCHE you don't need too much to survive. Or maybe his daddy realized he didn't do too swell a job having raised a snarky little brat, and is actually making PINCHE work - which pisses him off to no end with all the wetbacks who could be doing his work and all.....

Instead of bugging me to try and get me to tell you what I make a year

I could care less what you make a year.

That's not what I asked you.

I want to know what the net worth cut-off for "middle class" is.

I figured a guy who could so emphatically proclaim that he WASN'T middle class might provide some insight.

But all bullshit aside...

The lesson you need to take home this evening is that attempting to condense reality into neat little prisms of class is an utterly fucking ridiculous way of digesting and understanding the world around you.

There is no "class".

There are individuals who "can", and there are individuals who "can't".

Last night it was $100,000. Tonight it's $60,000

Wait until he gets rollin with the numbers of people killed by communism in the 20th century. 75, 90, 100, 120 million...he can't figure it out, even with his "little red book".

Sorry. "black book".

Of course, when you live off daddy's good graces

Not quite as entertaining as the conversion van schtick.

But whatever helps you cope.

a snarky little brat

You're a lounge singer, dude...

Pinche mao-The lesson you need to take home this evening is that attempting to condense reality into neat little prisms of class is an utterly fucking ridiculous way of digesting and understanding the world around you.

I'm just a middle class guy that worked his ass off his whole life---but got his education.

I have complete contempt for unionized labor.

You're just a lot dumber middle-class guy that can't understand how anyone can possibly have contempt for unionized labor.

Nighty-night, pumpkin :)

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-26 03:45 AM | Reply


Stop embarrassing yourself, guy.

Wait until he gets rollin with the numbers of people killed by communism in the 20th century. 75, 90, 100, 120 million...he can't figure it out, even with his "little red book".

Wait until the sheer fucking stupidity of that comment sets in.

I can't get over this:

The lesson you need to take home this evening is that attempting to condense reality into neat little prisms of class is an utterly fucking ridiculous way of digesting and understanding the world around you.


There is no "class".


There are individuals who "can", and there are individuals who "can't".


Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 01:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'm just a middle class guy that worked his ass off his whole life---but got his education.


I have complete contempt for unionized labor.


You're just a lot dumber middle-class guy that can't understand how anyone can possibly have contempt for unionized labor.


Nighty-night, pumpkin :)


Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-26 03:45 AM | Reply

Will the real pinche mao please stand up? LMAO!

You're a lounge singer, dude...

Posted by Pinche_Mao

Sure dude. One who's performed for several Presidents, Kings and Queens, written music for many movies and TV shows, worked with household names my whole career, and at my relatively young age can do whatever I feel like doing.

Whatever you say.......dude

Stop embarrassing yourself, guy.

I know I'm not rich.

And I know I'm not poor.

I'm a middle class guy, Francis.

But I've never run a cross a guy that could say this, though:

I said I WASNT middle class

Truly fascinating.


I own stock.

I don't own stock.

There is no class.

I am middle-class.

These comments are not mutually exclusive. Um, because I said so. DIPSHIT!

-Pinche mao.

Will the real pinche mao please stand up? LMAO!

Will the real Alexanpuss stand up and enlighten us with his definition of the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?

(LMAO)

Not quite as entertaining as the conversion van schtick.

But whatever helps you cope.

Posted by Pinche_Mao

That's 101 and WISGOD's bag. I don't even know anyone who's owned a conversion van. That's from the deep dank recesses of their minds.

And now you're trying to parrot a worn out piece of schtick.

Got anything original?

But I've never run a cross a guy that could say this, though:

So you never met a homeless guy? Working poor? Rich? You've ONLY met middle class people your entire life?

Uh huh. Sure. Is this another one of your patented "total lies"? I think it is. People who "intern on 3 continents" tend to meet non middle class folk.

This is getting a tad ridiculous.

You'll just have to forgive me for my fascination and curiosity.

I've never met someone that had a firm enough grasp on the quantitative parameters of "class" to be able to make proclamations like this:

I said I WASNT middle class

So what's the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?



Poor pinche. His little braggart narrative fell apart and he got embarrassed the other night...so now he's desperately trying to do the same to me.

And in the process he humiliated himself again:

I'm a middle class guy, Francis.

which followed:

The lesson you need to take home this evening is that attempting to condense reality into neat little prisms of class is an utterly fucking ridiculous way of digesting and understanding the world around you.

There is no "class".

Sad.

"I'm just a middle class guy"
Posted by Pinche_Mao

What's your net worth cut-off for "middle class"?

I've never met someone that had a firm enough grasp on the quantitative parameters of "class" to be able to make proclamations like this:


So you never met a guy in a cardboard box? Working poor? Rich?

I think you're full of shit, and trying to dig up my net worth # as personal info to throw at me whenever I kick your ass, or put two of your statements up that are 180's from each other. Personal stuffLike betelg's wife, moneywars age, AU as a lounge singer, what state I live in, or any # of personal buttons you like to press when asshammered by a liberal.(daily)

Sorry, ginger. You struck out.

Some trolls demand gold. Other times, they've been known to stubbornly insist on an economics lesson:


What's the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?
Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 12:44 AM


What's the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?
Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 12:51 AM


What's the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?
Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 01:01 AM


What's the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?
Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 01:10 AM


What's the net worth cut-off for "middle class", Francis?
Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 01:12 AM


What's the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?
Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 01:13 AM


So what's the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?
Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 01:27 AM

People who "intern on 3 continents" tend to meet non middle class folk.

Yes, but none of them ever proclaim themselves as NOT being of a particular economic "class".

Snoofy- Ask pinche. He's middle class.

(But putting it in those terms is an ignorant way to view the world. Unless he does it of course)

Finish off your beer and go to bed, pinche. Ya won't be squeezing out a victory tonight.

Yes, but none of them ever proclaim themselves as NOT being of a particular economic "class".

Sure they do. I know poor people who pretend to be upper crust, and rich guys that wear shitty clothes and hide their money.

I refuse to believe that a guy who "interned on 3 continents" could be so naive, and never met any of these types of people. Do you even pay attention to others, are do you just make caricatures and judgements based upon their party affiliation?

What's your net worth cut-off for "middle class"?

I don't have one.

I'm not specifically disassociating myself with the "class".

I said I WASNT middle class

So what "class" are you?


"I don't have one."

How would you know if you're "just a middle class guy", as you claimed, if you don't have parameters?

I refuse to believe that a guy who "interned on 3 continents" could be so naive

The only naive person here is you, kiddo.

What's the net worth cut-off for "middle class"?

Just answer the question.


Middle Class is a relative term, but it can be best described as earning a living wage - enough so that you aren't struggling to pay your bills, you can give your kids summer baseball or piano lessons, and take a family vacation for a week a year.

In California, it might be $100,000 net income.

In other parts of the country it can be $50,000

All depends on housing and energy costs - which I saw on TV last night are going up 20% in October where I live

I'm not specifically disassociating myself with the "class".

Yes you are. Middle class is not working, poor, or upper, or rich.

You lose again. Spamming a ridiclous and personally probing question will win you the "buffalo bob" award, but not anything else.

How would you know if you're "just a middle class guy", as you claimed, if you don't have parameters?

I'm not rich or poor.

The relevant question is how we'd know we're not middle class.

That requires a quantitative definition of "middle class".

It used to mean ONE income could support a family of four without struggling.

Now it usually takes TWO incomes to support a family of four without struggling.

Sending kids to college has become an entirely more expensive proposition in the last 20 years.

Most middle class people cannot afford to pay for college for their kids, which means a mountain of student loan debt the day they start their first job.

So what "class" are you?

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 02:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

I make ten cents an hour painting chinese toys with lead. Next Question.

AU- Middle Class is a relative term, but it can be best described as earning a living wage -

You're missing the point. After hours of spam he finally came right out and asked what my net worth is. THAT'S what he cares about. Not what I think middle class is in MI(or any other state) but how much money I make.

After years of telling conflicting personal stories and being called on it, he's digging around my dumpster for revenge.

Middle Class is a relative term, but it can be best described as earning a living wage - enough so that you aren't struggling to pay your bills, you can give your kids summer baseball or piano lessons, and take a family vacation for a week a year.

But if Alexandrite can proclaim to us that he's "NOT" middle class, surely he must have some basis upon which to assert that.

Or maybe he's just a silly, JuCo-educated dipshit who never quite got past the Wikipedia level of understanding the things around him.

Hey, pinche...what's it like being humiliated nightly by a "naive" "kiddo" from michigan that's a "dumber middle-class guy"?

I bet it stings.

"I'm not rich or poor."

What are your parameters for "rich" and "poor"?

Ah, ALEX

All most of the Bushbots around here have are personal attacks, innuendo, smears, and all the rest of the snarky Karl Rove U tactics.

They certainly can't argue that things are swimmingly good in the U.S. so they have to resort to being as big of assholes as possible.

I don't know how any Dem could ask any more of her than that speech, particularly considering the previous history of graceless male candidates who weren't expected to, and didn't, put the country and the Party first.

It's up to Obama now.

Posted by Corky


Welcome back brother! I know that you'll say you never went anywhere, but regardless, Hillary was the absolute best she's ever been during a campaign speech that I've ever seen! Although I still think it was very selfish of her to continue to the finish after February proved to be her mathmatical undoing as it regards the delegate count based on the then remaining primaries; Obama couldn't have asked for a more impassioned foundation from which to earn his Presidency. She hit every note and then hit them again. To my eyes she made mincemeat of the GOP whisper-claims that she somehow supports McCain if the truth-be-known, when the fact of the matter is she's a tried and true Democrat understanding that McCain is the antithesis of everything she believes and stands for.

I can't relate how incredible Hillary's speech was tonite. Pitch perfect and delivered to-your-door! The GOP narrative of Hillary and Bill secretly supporting John McCain, based solely on the unspoken fact that they wanted to defeat Barack Obama, has just become the millstone around McCain's neck. All that's left is for Big Daddy to take it to the next level tomorrow night, accompanied by Joe Biden ripping McCain and the GOP a new one with facts, not character assassinations, and then Barack will take the baton on Thursday and articulate his interpretation of the America we know from the past, the America we live in today, and the America he and all of us will work toward so that we can pass it on to our children, many just as bright and beautiful as the two Michelle and Barack have been blessed to parent.

We know Obama is capable of leading us together into new frontiers while John McCain embodies a 72 year-old reminder of what's already passed, yet refuses to acknowledge that its time and perspective in history has already done likewise.

RICH: $5 million (John McCain)
POOR: Way, way, way, way, waaaaaaaay under $5,000,000

But if Alexandrite can proclaim to us that he's "NOT" middle class, surely he must have some basis upon which to assert that.

I said that because I refuse to pretend to be something I'm not, unlike you. I DO have a basis for that proclamation.

And guess what? You're never gonna know what it is. Ho ho.

JuCo-educated dipshit

And I'm not gonna brag about my college either. Damn, you're batting zero tonight, ginger.

After hours of spam he finally came right out and asked what my net worth is.

No, Alex.

Don't lie.

I just asked you to justify a fairly stupid comment that, quite frankly, illustrated your infantile understanding of things.

You assured us all that you're NOT middle class.

I'm just curious as to what you think "middle class" is.

A perfectly fair question.

Hey, pinche...what's it like being humiliated nightly by a "naive" "kiddo" from michigan that's a "dumber middle-class guy"?

Oh it's horrible.


Drive-by blogging here....


I like Alex a lot. Have had tons of quality discussions with him over the years. I can almost always count on him to cut through the partisan crap and call it straight. In discourse, he'll gladly cede a quality point made by his opponent and he's oft caused me to alter my views on a given issue. Quality poster on this blog.

That being said, something happens to him when the words: "Posted by Pinche Mao" appear on the screen. It's almost like an epileptic response, or something, and Mao is all too happy to be the strobe light.


Alex,

Maybe you are just enjoying the give-and-take that is part and parcel with your conversations with Mao. However, when I watch your to-and-fro's it seems as if Mao pushes your buttons and you provide him the desired response. I could be wrong, but that's how it looks from my end.


Gotta go - carry on, fellas.

Let me update:


Hey, pinche...what's it like being humiliated nightly by a "naive" "kiddo" from michigan that's a "dumber middle-class guy" and a "JuCo-educated dipshit"?

Must hurt. Buy some stock to soothe the agony.

Yup. Hillary told it like it is. At least 4 great lines including No Way, No How, No McCain, Twin Cities/Bush-McCain Twins, etc

Can we get Bill to attend Obama's speech on Thursday night now? I read on several MSM sites he's not going to attend.

I DO have a basis for that proclamation.

Well then share it with us.

It's almost like an epileptic response, or something, and Mao is all too happy to be the strobe light.

It's an insecurity that defies words.

But extremely entertaining.

But I digress.

Alex was humiliating me....

Pinche- that, quite frankly, illustrated your infantile understanding of things.


Unless I make less than 18,000 a year or more than 300,000.

But you'll never know. No matter how much you needle.

Jeff- Maybe you are just enjoying the give-and-take that is part and parcel with your conversations with Mao. However, when I watch your to-and-fro's it seems as if Mao pushes your buttons and you provide him the desired response. I could be wrong, but that's how it looks from my end.

That's because you love the guy. We both push each other's buttons, the difference is: I catch him making mutually exclusive statements in a single thread, and he can never explain them, just attack more viciously. It's fucking hilarious.

I mean, come on...the guy says that class is a dumb way to view things...then he goes on to tell everyone WHAT class he IS. Karl rove needs to hire this guy. He's shamelessly full of shit.

How in the hell does one reach a cut off mark on what middle class is. It veries from one community to the next. Someone that makes 50 grand in one city might be concidered high class in some podunk community. It's all subjective.

Larry

Jeff-

There is no "class".

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 01:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'm just a middle class guy that worked his ass off his whole life---but got his education.


Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-26 03:45 AM | Reply

If you honestly see this and think I'm coming out on the losing end, you need new glasses.


Unless I make less than 18,000 a year or more than 300,000.

That's a pretty big range there.

then he goes on to tell everyone WHAT class he IS

I said I was a middle class guy.

That's not a particularly bold statement to make given the parameters you've provided above.

Not nearly as bold as proclaiming that I'm "NOT" middle class.

Like you did.

That's a lot of money, Alex.

If you honestly see this and think I'm coming out on the losing end, you need new glasses

I think anyone with a pulse can see you're coming out on the losing end.

I mean, come on...the guy says that class is a dumb way to view things...

It is.

But we're dealing with terms you can understand.

Apparently, that boils down to "class".

"I'm just curious as to what you think "middle class" is.
A perfectly fair question."

Then you should have no problem answering my question about your parameters of "rich" and "poor".

But we're dealing with terms you can understand.

Oh, I see. You made totally conflicting statements and an ass of yourself because you were attempting communication with a lower life form. Dodge those raindrops!

Hahahahaha. Finish your coors and go to bed.

I catch him making mutually exclusive statements in a single thread

Please provide me with examples of "mutually exclusive statements".

You're full of shit.

Apparently danforth doesn't have a pulse. Salutations, undead blogger.

Then you should have no problem answering my question about your parameters of "rich" and "poor".

Apparently below 18,000 is poor, and above 300,000 is rich.

Now what conclusions can you draw from the answering of your question, Danforth?

"Apparently below 18,000 is poor, and above 300,000 is rich."

I asked you.

Please provide me with examples of "mutually exclusive statements".

You own stock.

You don't own stock.

Class is a stupid way to view things.

You called yourself and I middle class.

You ask me what the parameters of NOT being middle class are, without explaning the parameters of NOT being rich or poor.

You said I was a 14 y/o mentally AFTER writing some of the most obnoxious and childish shit I've ever seen on drudge. Frankly, 90% of your posts are at a 14 y/o level.

You're a joke.

What are your parameters of "rich" and "poor"?

Apparently below 18,000 is poor, and above 300,000 is rich.


Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 02:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

Depends on what state you live in.

I asked you.

I don't really give a fuck who you asked.

We spent 6 hours figuring out the parameters that define the "middle class".

That was the question on the table.

It's been answered.

Now what conclusions can you draw from the answering of your question?

It's been answered.

Not exactly, I just threw that out there. I told you if you wanted exact numbers to go the census.

But you're more interested in what I make in a year, so you can goof on it.

"Now what conclusions can you draw"

You can't, or don't want to answer the question directly about what your parameters are regarding "rich" and "poor".

You own stock.


You don't own stock.

I own stock, and never said I didn't.

Class is a stupid way to view things.


You called yourself and I middle class.

Class is a stupid way to view things.

That doesn't mean I don't fall within a certain "class".

and I

But apparently, you don't meet that definition.

Danforth- I told you and AU...he just wants to know what my net worth is. None of his other shit has stuck to me thusfar.

Apparently this is more important to him than sleep, since I'm pretty sure he has to get up early tomorrow.

Not exactly, I just threw that out there.

Aw, man.

You just pulled that out of your ass?

But you're more interested in what I make in a year

No, I swear to God I'm not.

I just want to know on what basis you can proclaim yourself "NOT" middle class.

"That was the question on the table."

Not once you brought up "rich" and "poor"; then I asked you what your parameters are. You've yet to answer, while claiming a similar request is "A perfectly fair question."

You can't, or don't want to answer the question directly about what your parameters are regarding "rich" and "poor".

Actually, I just don't give a fuck about what you "want".

I just want to know on what basis Alexandrite can proclaim himself "NOT" middle class.

I thought we had numbers.

But he pulled them from his ass.

Nontheless, I think the point hath been made.



then I asked you what your parameters are

Shh.

Pinche- If you have a point, make it.

I made one comment last night, and you've spent the last few hours spamming away like buffalo bob. Where's the beef?

Would you like me to email you my tax records?

I'm sorry one of us is too stupid to not tell personal stories, make up different incongruent versions of them, and then get caught.

But you're not getting the pound of flesh. Or my net worth. Maybe you'll learn to keep your shit straight next time.(doubtful)

And if you're going to pretend that your "point" was I don't know what the middle class(you don't even believe in) is, I'm gonna laugh at the face-saving effort. Hard.

What good are terms like "blue collar" and "middle class" if you can't really define them?

Ponder that as you lose another election.

I just want to know on what basis you can proclaim yourself "NOT" middle class.

And if I answer that I make too little money, you'll mock me.(dumb ass couldn't get a high paying job!) And If I answer that I make too much money, you'll mock me.(who would pay your dumb ass that much?)

You're really transparent, pinche. 4 hours of spam for a future personal button of mine to press? I'm blushing from the attention.

What good are terms like "blue collar" and "middle class" if you can't really define them?

You tell me, self proclaimed middle class man.

"Actually, I just don't give a fuck about what you "want"."

If you read the post again, it was referencing what you want.

You yourself stated a similar request of Alex was "a perfectly fair question". Why won't you answer the question if you actually believe that?

What are your parameters for "rich" and "poor"?

And if you're going to pretend that your "point" was I don't know what the middle class(you don't even believe in) is...

I'm not about to make that point to a guy who understands what it is so well that he's able to proclaim himself NOT a member of it.

you've spent the last few hours spamming away like buffalo bob

And you've spent the last few hours doing everything you can not to answer a very basic question regarding the premise of your child-like, class-based world-view.

That's not "spam", Little Guy.

Pinche- Believe me, if the dems lose another election it won't have anything to do with misunderstanding class based on income.

It will be because Obama ran a bad campaign, and people like you reminded everyone he was a "negro" every 15 seconds. Or lied and called him a "communist" or a "muslim".

You tell me, self proclaimed middle class man.

Between 18 and 300.

If I gave you my net worth, the discussion about whether I'm middle class or not would be over. Definatively over. In 2 seconds. By your own "rich" or "poor" standards that you seem unwilling to explain to danforth. If your idea of middle class is that you're not rich or poor, then I am not middle class because I'm one of those two groups.

Duh. You know that, you just want my net worth, and It's not happening...so spam on, tard.

"a very basic question"

Like: what are your parameters for "rich" and "poor"?

It's "a perfectly fair question".

It will be because Obama ran a bad campaign, and people like you reminded everyone he was a "negro" every 15 seconds. Or lied and called him a "communist" or a "muslim".

It'll be because he's a shitty candidate that got fewer votes than his opponent.

18 and 300

I should have used even whackier numbers than 18 and 300. I wonder if you'd spam those?

Like: what are your parameters for "rich" and "poor"?

I'm not the one setting parameters that assume definitions of "rich", "poor", or "middle class".

Give it up, jackass.

I'm just playing the hand I'm dealt.


If they're "whacky", provide more realistic ones.

I'm not the one setting parameters that assume definitions of "rich", "poor", or "middle class".

Yes, you are. You said you were middle class because you were not poor or rich.

So what's poor, rich, and middle class pinche?

Define.

If they're "whacky", provide more realistic ones.

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 03:23 AM | Reply | Flag:


Why don't you?

If they're "whacky", provide more realistic ones.

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-27 03:23 AM | Reply | Flag:


Why don't you?

I'm not the one setting parameters that assume definitions of "rich", "poor"

"I know I'm not rich.
And I know I'm not poor."

You'd have to have parameters to know. What are those parameters? If you can in one post demand an answer from Alex, you should be willing in another post to answer a similar question from me. Especially when, in your own words, it's "a very basic question" and "a perfectly fair question".

You assume there is a single standard for pinche's behavior, danforth. There isn't.

It just seems priggish to demand an answer you aren't willing to give yourself. As well as giving the impression you're cornered.

I told you, he merely wishes to mock my income, danforth.

And he's as bored as the two of us, I'd gather. Not much one can accomplish at 3:30 am which is why I'm here. Killing time cuz it's killing me.

More fun:


Except neither I nor anyone else ever heaped praise on Pinochet and talked about what a great guy he was---

Like you do about left wing tyrants.

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2006-09-20 07:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

I've made the point that Chile is much more successful and better off today because of Pinochet---who eventually ceded power in a democratic election.

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-06-10 12:49 AM | Reply | Flag:


Alex,

I didn't say you came out on the losing end of the discussion itself; such as it is.


What I said was that Mao seems to control the flow of the conversation between the 2 of you and he seems to elicit a desired response from you, almost every time, for his own, personal edification.

My conclusion based upon observation has nothing to do with who actually wins the substance of the argument itself, as that is not what I was speaking toward.

I'd say it's fairly mutual. He likes to fuck with me, and I like to fuck with him. Uh, not in a gay way...

We just bother one another for some reason. Probably because we can both be such major assholes.

Of course we're pikers compared to tadowe.

So it's worth wathcing Hillary's speech then?

It's sort of weird how many MILFs she has in her corner. Don't they want some black cock too?

Jeff- Please tell me you've gotten some actual sleep.

At least one of us should.

Alex,

I work nights.

I sleep a little before and a little after I work.

After my boys get up and I feed them breakfast, I'll steal a couple of hourse while they watch TV.


Fortunately, Wednesday is the only day of the week like this - we have other arrangements for them the other days and on those days I am able to get more than just a couple of hours after I get off work.

Is the stupid dick measuring where everyone talks about everyone else's income over yet? Good lord it was getting like the Motley Fool around here. You go in expecting something entertaining, and instead hear people talking about stupid shit like "What defines the middle class?"

I'll be busy brushing the ferret's teeth.

Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch

Are you tired of his "morning breath" when you kiss him?

What do folks think of Morris' analysis that the better Hillary looks the worse Biden will look?

Posted by MURPHY

He should stick to sucking the toes of prostitutes.

You go in expecting something entertaining, and instead hear people talking about stupid shit like "What defines the middle class?"

That *was* weird. How Hillary Clinton's speech became an income census survey was a mystery to me too.

Besides, Pinche isn't upper, middle or lower class anyway. I think we can all agree that he's clearly a person with no class.

Snap!

Well that post explains why so many of Pinche's posts get in the dumped or deleted items thread.

Sure many of them belong, but so do the posts he was responding to or that follow his comments.

Rcade has some strange fascination with saving boyd and alex from Pinche. Maybe those two should just realize they're out of their league and not poke Pinche so much?

I love how the right is immediately trying to spin the speech as some sort of half-assed attempt to pull back in the base. Scarborough and Buchanan wore practically jerking each other off this morning and saying it was Hillary's way of opening the door to 2012. Personally I think the Clintons know that if Obama doesn't win in 2008, she doesn't have a shot in 2012. I think the best way for her to shut all these pundits up would be to announce that if Obama loses in 2008 she will not run in 2012.

I think we can all agree that he's clearly a person with no class.

Now, Rogers.

That wasn't very nice.

Rcade has some strange fascination with saving boyd and alex from Pinche


I saw it in the deleted files last week.

Mao has at least one serial flagger.


He had a series of deleted posts that made the flagging obvious.


All in all, RCade doesn't have it in for Mao like he used to. It's as if he's grown more tolerant of Mao's 'style' as time moves on.

I think the best way for her to shut all these pundits up would be to announce that if Obama loses in 2008 she will not run in 2012.

Posted by taxman

Yeah, she could pull a Biden.

Mrs. Clinton, who was once certain that she would win the Democratic nomination this year, also took steps on Tuesday deliberate steps, aides said to keep the door open to a future bid for the presidency.

www.nytimes.com

----

She's certainly not hedging her bets on Obama.

101,

"Maybe those two should just realize they're out of their league and not poke Pinche so much?"

Out of their league? We now have rankings on some blog...really? Come on brother, you're alot sharper than that. It's a BLOG...nuttin real here. Shits, grins, poking animals with sticks and flat out stupidity...nuttin more, nuttin less.

EP,
Have you ever followed those late night flame-wars? If you had, you'd know exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaking of a lack of dumps, how did these not get dumped?

Where is taddy? I almost miss his diatribes. Almost.
Is doing seven to ten for molesting sheep?
Posted by 726 at 2008-08-27 08:49 AM

He should stick to sucking the toes of prostitutes.
Posted by 726 at 2008-08-27 08:47 AM

101,
I must admit I haven't. I try to check in during the day here and there but since I'm on a laptop all day at work, I stay away from it when I get home.

Joe,
Dick Morris was popped for prostitution and one of his fetishes that came to light was sucking the toes of prostitutes. Can't really dump someone for posting the news.

Out of their league? We now have rankings on some blog...really? Come on brother, you're alot sharper than that. It's a BLOG...nuttin real here. Shits, grins, poking animals with sticks and flat out stupidity...nuttin more, nuttin less.

Posted by evilpolock at 2008-08-27 11:01 AM

I luv poking at Pinche ... it's like poking a Mexican pinate...all kinds of fun things fly out.

On Topic- I luved Hillary's Speech! It was awesome. I just hope we see some follow through. It will be interesting to see where she ends up in his cabinet.

I did notice that she was in quite a hurry to get off the stage. I would have thought she would have basked in the "glow" just a bit longer.

Other than that it was a fine speech and I thought very well received.

I am sure my dad is a little disappointed as he really wanted to vote for her(he REALLY liked Bill). But, I am sure he will vote for Obama now and that is what counts.

GOBAMA/BIDEN!

Middle class by income and assets?

According to the Pew survey the followin is the result:

pewsocialtrends.org

I don't know whose task it was to define the levels. But here they are

Household assets.

Rich: (?) $434,390,

Middle: $98,286,

Low income: $16,000

Pew Survey for 2004 in Jan. 2008 dollars

It seems to me that anyone who has owned a house for any length of time would have made a transition. Of course, now the home ownership component is decreasing.

U.S. median household income increases modestly, census figures show - 14 hours ago

Hispanic households had a median income of $38,679

$54,920 for whites

$66,103 for Asians.

Chicago Tribune - 1390 related articles

****************************** ****************************** *********************

Gosh, could median "income" be in any way related to "race" and intelligence? Perish the thought.

I guess my loose cuff 18-300 not being middle class wasn't far off, johnson.

www.realclearpolitics.com
Democrats the Party of Whiners
By Robert Robb

The Democrats have titled their party platform, "Renewing America's Promise."
A more honest and accurate title would be, "We'll Give You More."
The soul of the Democratic philosophy is summed up in this passage from the platform: "For decades, Americans have been told to act for ourselves, by ourselves, on our own. Democrats reject this recipe for division and failure."
Note the disdain for the ethos of self-responsibility. Democrats do not merely regard it as insufficient. Instead they regard the idea that people should provide for themselves as divisive. Even more significantly, Democrats regard self-responsibility as a "recipe for failure." In other words, Democrats don't think the American people are capable of making it on their own.

And so, Democrats have a government program for, well, everything.

Democrats want government to help you raise your kids, send them to college, train and retrain for a job, buy a home and save for retirement.
They must be saving the burial assistance program for 2012.

If you want an abortion or want to keep the child, it doesn't matter. Democrats want taxpayers to help pay for it either way. Democrats are also big on "investment" in "infrastructure." Of course, in the Democratic view, everything is infrastructure. It is paradoxical that the Democrats are stressing the need for public investment at the same time that their tax policies will shrink private investment.
Simply put, Democrats say they will give you more than Republicans, and that's why you should vote for them.According to Democrats, the lot of the average American is lousy. And according to the polls, the electorate is inclined to agree.
Income and wage statistics are tricky. There are problems with inflation measures and averages are affected by the large influx of low-skilled immigration the country has experienced.

However, perspective can be gathered by stepping away and looking at the broader picture. More Americans own their homes than at any time in history and their homes are larger than at any time in history.
Americans spend less of their income on the basics - food, shelter and clothing - than at any time in history. We own more stuff that does more stuff than ever before.
Yes, there is a housing slump. But the end result of that will be, if politicians will get out of the way, more people being able to buy more home at lower prices.
There is currently a pinch on wages. But it is caused by inflation. In a 57-page platform that includes such things as supporting refundable tax credits to families on the Northern Mariana Islands, there is not a single word about the importance of a stable currency to protect the buying power and the savings of average Americans.
During the depression, GDP declined by 40 percent and a quarter of the American workforce was out of work. In the 1970s, the economy was contracting about half the time, unemployment reached 9 percent and interest rates and inflation hit double digits.

Those were tough economic times. These aren't, at least not yet. What is different, and can be tough, is the pace of economic change. Technology and globalization have sped up the creative destruction that is part of the essence of a market economy.
That has created economic anxiety and the Democrats are playing on that anxiety. However, Democrats are misleading the American people by claiming that they can make the anxiety go away.
Green manufacturing jobs aren't going to be any less susceptible to foreign competition than current manufacturing jobs. Detroit isn't going to face any less global competition in hybrids or plug-ins than in SUVs and sedans.
And triggering a protectionist trade war is how you get things like the Great Depression. So, the economic path for most Americans is going to stay more turbulent than in the past. But, according to the Democrats, the American people can't be told to just buck up and learn to live with it. That would be divisive and a recipe for failure.
Phil Gramm got tossed off the John McCain Straight-Talk Express for saying that the country had become a nation of whiners. So, pandering during an election year is certainly a bipartisan affair.
But if Gramm is right and we have become a nation of whiners, the Democrats are certainly the party to represent us.

went right to the end here because of time constraints but surely someone has already talked about the UNBELIEVABLY putrid and ugly pant suit she had on.........looked like an ugly pumpkin.
and some comedian already said that it looked like the last thing that elton john wore uin 2004

"Dick Morris was popped for prostitution and one of his fetishes that came to light was sucking the toes of prostitutes. Can't really dump someone for posting the news.

Posted by evilpolock"

Hey evil,

Thanks, but just how "new" is that "news"?

..and while you're at it, please explain how you believe that it is relevant to this thread.

We're waiting.

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