Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Friday, August 22, 2008

Lee Russ: I spent a chunk of yesterday taking phone surveys for my local Democratic Party. The goal was information, not persuasion. Three simple questions: Do you plan on voting for Obama, do you plan on voting for the Democratic candidate for governor in Vermont, and which issues are most important to you as a voter? I come away with two distinct impressions: (1) very few people are home during the day, and (2) an appreciable number of citizens have bought the Republican smears of Barack and Michelle Obama verbatim.

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Didn't everyone expect the smears and that they would have an effect??? Republicans have always used such tactics because their agenda is not beneficial to the average voter so they can't run on that so their only way of winning is to run attacks on character and personality.

Posted by danni at 2008-08-22 09:43 AM

Problem is that democrats are unable to show them for what they are.

Which is sadder?

You make the call.

It's called dumbing down politics and making arguments simpletons can understand. Most of America could care less about policy (most of us here at the DR are outside of the norm), they want dirt - this is why attack ads works so well. It doesn't matter to politicians whether their attacks are true or not, they just need to plant that seed and let it grow. If a story is proven false, it doesn't get the same kind of coverage as the attack ad itself. So who is to blame here? Is there really anyone to blame? I personally find these kinds of politics disgusting and sad. It really saddens me to see some of the posts on the back page which are purposefully intended to spread lies, and the fact that these lies are being spread by intellegent and generally honest people (both sides of the aisle).

Politics has found a way to divide us rather than unite us. Rather than using the political arena to come together and work out differences through debate and reconciliation, we have bought into the idea that all politics is "gotcha" politics. Take for example this recent housing spat. Who really cares, it is another instance of the "gotcha" mentality. Sure McCain is disconnected from the average American, but aren't all politicians? Is Obama really an average Joe? Now, I do think a difference lies in how each candidate thinks the American government should take care of the average Joe, and that is where the debate should lie.

My two cents. I have a very full day today so I don't know if I will be back here until later this afternoon.

Problem is that democrats are unable to show them for what they are.

Which is sadder?

You make the call.

Posted by Hagbard_Celine

Because Dems are such fucking pussies... Obama should be taking a page from the LBJ "Mushroom cloud playbook" right about now: As in the article, he should be showing McCain hugging Bush on video loop every chance he gets.

Taxman,
Your comment has a lot of merit, but it seems as if you believe that American politics has become an environment of attack ads rather than accepting that it has always been that way. The unfortunate part of it is that now, with so many American's relying on TV to provide them with their news, they are left with only 5 second soundbites from which to draw their conclusions and form their opinions.

Good, lets keep socializing the liabilities and privatizing the profits. A full blown depression would be a good-in-the-long-run wake up call.

The sad problem is your average American is very gullible, ignorant, unimaginative and idealistic. People like CC and Chairborne on this board are prime examples of this.

Americans really deserve their leadership at this point. It was so obvious that bush was not up to the job as president but he was elected twice anyway. Now it's looking like McCain. you can argue that Obama should have more experience but then it's so obvious that McCain doesn't have any of the fundamentals in order to be president. There really is no way to logically compare the two so of course the GOP is throwing out catch phrases and image attacks.

Dems aren't pussies (save that one for the archives!). They're saps. A bunch of fucking gullible little infants that think the world is a peaceful little place if only us big bad americans weren't such meanies.
They're afraid to take charge. Afraid of success (ashamed of super power status). They are more comfortable in second place because they like to criticize 1st place.

Own it. I wish it weren't true, because all it does is encourage the "republicans" to accept the fact that they are shells of their former selves as well.

"Don't worry, I'll win"

furryhole thinks being a military brat means living a priviledged life. Who's ignorant dumbass?

"Saps" are people who continuted to rah rah Bush.

Sons of generals and admirals do indeed live privileged lives.

Gotta break out of that 101 mode and move to "Knowledge 201" (at least) to be informed.

Its easy to sway stupid "conservatives". Fear and loathing are powerful emotions and tremendous tools for the media. But let us not forget, Obama has gone off message, as advised by Democratic insiders. Like the one's who say "Impeachment is Off the Table".

"furryhole thinks being a military brat means living a priviledged life."

I grew up in military housing and Admirals lived VERY priveleged lives in homes (mansions) far, far different than lower officers, with servants, with chaufeurs, etc. John McBush grew up in comfort, was sent to exclusive private schools and lived a priveleged life.

"Obama has gone off message, as advised by Democratic insiders. Like the one's who say "Impeachment is Off the Table"."

Scary to think that he would let those losers influence him. Pelosi should be excluded from any and all Obama planning sessions.

I don't think Americans "like" attack ads. I don't know a single person who doesn't roll their eyes when shit like that comes on the television.

Americans essentially have to wade through two levels of bullshit before knowing what a candidate will "be like" when he gets elected. First, you have the double-speak that all politicians give wherein they refuse to commit to one side of an issue. You have to dig through their websites and their actual voting records to figure out where they stand. Second, you have no guarantee that they won't do the exact opposite, or nothing at all, when they get elected. Adding in attack ads simply muddles the process even further and deflects away from real issues. Americans don't want that - the politicians want that. It keeps them from having to talk about issues and make commitments - something 99% of politicians are afraid to do.

Obama Powell!

Pelosi should also be exluded from the House of Reps, unfortunately that's not the case.

And AU, rather than knee-jerk slamming 101Chair on his post, why didn't you read it and ponder it. It's sadly true, rather than just being an insult against Democrats (wherein Chair would probably have been far more rude) it was a fairly fitting observation.

Hey retards, how long does it take to make Admiral or General? Look it up and get back to me. While you're looking it up, why don't you uninformed dolts tell me how much an O1, O2, O3, O4, and O5 (all married with children) made during this so called life of priviledge?

When you've actually done that, you'll disappear out of embarassment. Why you know nothing losers step up to the plate only to be brushed back is beyond me.

Next.

Sons of generals and admirals do indeed live privileged lives.

Gotta break out of that 101 mode and move to "Knowledge 201" (at least) to be informed.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Yes AU very true. My best friend's father was a general in the Air Force (commander of a base around D.C.). Very well off. Grosse Pointe high school, private schools, cars, trips....

...er, never mind AU, old 101Chair is back, see what you did?!?!

WHAT obama smears?

this morning i heard mumia was going to be at the convention via satellite from his jail cell...

jeesh - if that's true, he's got quite the celebrity line-up behind him! WOOOOOOOOOOOOt!

this morning i heard mumia was going to be at the convention via satellite from his jail cell...
Posted by nanc

LOL... leave Mumia out of this, Nanc.

101 yes a lot of hard work goes into that, but so does the "real world" work environment. I'm not comparing a CEO from Kraft foods to a General in the Army, but they to have some perks compared to the rest of us...
So a 4 star makes about $180,000. Not bad...

How much does a four star general make in the US military?
In: Salary and Pay Rates, War and Military History


Depends on their years of service and exclusive of taxes and special pays added depending on various things (like whether or not they are in a hazardous area or being shot at!) about $14343/month maximum.

Sarcasmo, if one examines the "Contract With America" and compares it to what actually transpired in the intervening years, you can only come to the conclusion that they were lying their butts off, got drunk with power, and were playing a shell game.

Anyone who still believes the GOP is for fiscal responsibility or a stronger military only has to look at the clear facts that the GOP increased the federal budget 40% in only 6 years while our intelligence services have concluded in several NIE's in a row that their actions have weakened the military and left us less safe.

Perhaps it will take a few elections where they're trounced for the GOP to get back to Eisenhower type pragmatism, lose the jingoism, and get back to their roots.

this morning i heard mumia was going to be at the convention via satellite from his jail cell...

I know exactly what Fox News, through Malkin, said this morning; now are you purposefully misleading or do you want the opportunity to fix this statement?

Yes AU very true. My best friend's father was a general in the Air Force (commander of a base around D.C.). Very well off. Grosse Pointe high school, private schools, cars, trips....

Posted by Chill
* * * *

How old was his father when he was born? Most generals don't get their flags until they're in their late 40's.

I love it though. A thread about how the smears against Obama "are working", then devolves into a thread where kids who are yanked out of their schools every three years lead privileged lives. That would come as a surprise to my own children, who moved six times in nine years, living in some government housing that was wonderful, and other times which were so substandard that had to be fixed up and repaired for tens of thousands of dollars before turning it over to the civilian market due to base closure.

Apparently Obama is making inroads into the military vote. Hopefully he makes some dumbass comment similar to the ones above, and the air will come out of that balloon in a hurry.

101 yes a lot of hard work goes into that, but so does the "real world" work environment. I'm not comparing a CEO from Kraft foods to a General in the Army, but they to have some perks compared to the rest of us...
So a 4 star makes about $180,000. Not bad...

Posted by Chill at 2008-08-22 10:30 AM | Reply |

Not bad at all. Now, how many years did it take to get to that level of pay (and lets not kid ourselves here, the pay back in 1936 to say 1953 was comparable to todays military pay and benefits)?

So, from 1936 (McCains birth year) until 18 years later (when I ssume he went to the Academy) you're telling me that living without a father present, moving from base to base, and living in military housing was a priviledged life? Have you ever seen WW2 era housing?

You guys are seriously fucking off the mark here.
I don't consider living in a nice house for a year or two to be a priviledged life.

RisR I lived my entire childhood in base housing and I never once saw an Admiral or even a Captain not living in a beautiful home, usually a mansion.
My own Dad was a commander and we lived pretty well too though no where near as well as Captains and Admirals.

RiR,
We were in the military and lived that life, with that pay, with those accomodations. We don't know what the fuck we're talking about.
Living in a cookie cutter neighborhood where every house is identical, and where everyone knows your business, and where grocery money is tight, is a life of priviledge. The scant few years McCain's dad was up there in rank while Johnny boy was still living at home more than make up for the childhood with an absentee dad and constant moves...

I mean, who actually gives a fuck if dad is off fighting a war? As long as that fat o2 and o3 pay is rolling in circa 1942.

AU,
You'll get no argument from me that the GOP is populated by greedfuckers interested in raping this country to line their own (and friend's and family's) pockets. The sad part is that Democratic candidates never come right out and say that...thus, they are pussies.

*Note, Democrats probably never call Repubs out on the greedfuck agenda because they're doing the same damn thing, they just throw a crust of bread to the poor every so often to make it look like they're compassionate.

Are these so-called smears actually truths smashed into peoples faces like dog shit?

101 I said it was hard work. My friend was 16 at the time his father was commander of some base outside DC and he had more then most kid I know (I also lived in Grosse Pointe). So to be rich you have to make 5 million? I live a great life making less then $180,000 a year (great town, LOTS of travel, events...) I worked hard at the company I work at for over 15 years to get here...

And dude I grew up moving every fucking year of my life (corp-brat), paid for school out of my own pocket... McCain wasn't a Kennedy, but he wasn't Billy-bob either...

LIfe of privelege???...it's a matter of perspective.

You realize there's a difference between middle class, upper middle class, and a "life of priviledge" right?

While growing up and moving every year, was your father in a submarine off the coast of Japan or North Africa with Nazi's and Japs looking to drop depth charges on him?

I can't pin point a dollar amount that would make for a life of priviledge, but I can tell you that dollar amount isn't going to be found in the service.

Obama has generally earned his own way, earned his own money, demonstrated an unwavering commitment to fairness in America during his time in office ...

Fairness? Come on now. Trying to perpetuate "the big lie?" Remember that Obama swore an oath of fealty to the "black liberation theology" agenda when he joined the Rev. Wright cult, and that all of his efforts have been in furtherance of that agenda, the central core of which is preference for blacks. Give us a break with your banal generalities, which are lies, blatant lies.

Obama's experience has consisted in large part of organizing street protests, organizing blacks to threaten community stability unless the community acceded to their extortionate demands of an indigency constituency.

Obama wouldn't be the candidate if he wasn't black?

This verity is not addressed. Instead the writer engages in distracting drivel. Obama would have not been seriously considered for anything, and would have lost every election except for the clustered votes of blacks, who supported him because of his race.
And finally, let's ask the big one: so f'ing what?????

The writer concedes the answer that Obama would not have been seriously considered as a candidate if he had not been black and commanded almost total support from black voters who consitute a significant portion of the Democrat Party.

So what? Well, what is the agenda to which the candidate is committed that has elicited such overwhelming support. It is the agenda in the black community that is based on a victimization and entitlement mentality. Obama is seen as the person who will perpetuate black preference programs, which would be in furtherance to his pledge to his black liberation theology cult.

Michelle Obama is angry, bitter, and racist?

I'll end with two questions for the guy who thought Michelle Obama to be racist as well as the most angry and bitter person he'd ever heard: (1) Does it ever occur to you that you just might be as angry and bitter as you think she is? (2) Is it really racist to recognize that you've experienced racism?


Again, the writer makes no effort to refute this charge, but instead embarks on a frolic of his own enumerating what he believes the dire consequences of a McCain Presidency would be and dismissing the acknowledged alienation and bitterness of Michelle Obama as insignificant in comparison. But she is a hateful bigoted woman dedicated to advancing blacks to the detriment of the remainder of the American community from which she is alienated.

Michelle Obama may have "a reason" to hate white and other non-black (Hispanic and Asian and Native) Americans. It is not necessary for her to have "a right" to hate, it's just who and what she is. She can harbor these resentments, these feelings. But is this the attitude that Americans want in the White House? I think not. Considering her and her husband's joint membership for more than 20 years in a cult that was based on such beliefs and feelings, it is reasonable to assume that they are shared by Candidate Obama.

101 I agree. I'm saying he's no Kennedy/Bush, but he most likely did get perks. I that I remember I High School chum's father was Air Force...Just saying maybe "privileged" may be to heavy of a term. Advantage?

Danni is correct here.

If one was able to get base housing for the family than money certainly was not an issue.

Emotional life was extremely difficult for the family, almost all the kids end up with insecure emotional problems. Guess that social life growing up with friends does matter.

Obama has generally earned his own way, earned his own money, demonstrated an unwavering commitment to fairness in America during his time in office ...

Oh! Is the magic words "his time in Office?"

Obama lived a spoiled life will well funded parents giving him much of anything he needed as a child and youth.

Obama was set for life before he was even daddy's little squirt.

Didn't everyone expect the smears and that they would have an effect??? Democrats have always used such tactics because their agenda is not beneficial to the average voter so they can't run on that so their only way of winning is to run attacks on character and personality.

Johnson, I WISH that Obama had more of a black liberation agenda. I might not be voting for REDACTED if he did.

I think you are blinded by his skin color.

The sad problem is your average American is very gullible, ignorant, unimaginative and idealistic. People like CC and Chairborne on this board are prime examples of this.

Posted by furio at 2008-08-22 10:05 AM

How fucking arrogant of you. But it is a typical lib attitude.. "We know what is best for you".

No, Obama and the democrats are having a difficult time because they lost their base and are only voted for because of the bad republicans.

Hope the democrats keep making policy that is counter to workers and such, it will end such a lazy party and we can get new people in who actually support the majority.

It's not really a smear, though, if it's true... right?

Obama has worked very hard to conceal who he really is, but he can only keep his thumb in the dike for so long.

Well, in McCain's case, being an admiral's son paid dividends in spades. He got shot down over Vietnam and got an offer of early release from his captors because of who his daddy was. Then when he declined, because other POW's were there before he was, he was singled out for "special treatment" yet again. Now, this rich brat naval officer has a son in the Marines, who now doubt is living the good life, stationed in Iraq.

Yep. I keep forgetting how great military service seems to those who've never worn a uniform. It's wonderful to be stationed places where the nearest native person who speaks English is hundreds of miles away. It's great to have pocketfulls of money to spend, but nowhere to spend it. It's amazing to go weeks and weeks and weeks without seeing your family, making less than your college buddies do, sitting in air-conditioned comfort back home, watching TV. It's just fantastic to learn that, because you have a language trailer for Serbo-Croatian (that you don't get paid extra for, by the way) you're on the next flight out to Bosnia because there's a UN mission there that wants Americans on the ground, thinking that would deter attacks against THEM.

Ah. So many good memories. I never should've taken them for granted. I had no idea how privileged we all were.

Wow! Only people speaking the language of known conflict have now become the entire housing military.

I guess we have all kinds of housing here in the states..........what language do those people speak?

Only people speaking the language of known conflict have now become the entire housing military.

What the fuck was that?

No, seriously.

What the fuck was that?

Translator please!

Only people speaking the language of known conflict have now become the entire housing military.

Excuse me, stewardess

I speak Moneywar

Excuse me, stewardess

I speak Moneywar

Posted by Pinche_Mao

LOL... Nice Airplane reference, Dennis Miller.

Oh puss fuck cunt shit piss person.......oops, I don't want to speak mao's language.

Only people speaking the language of known conflict have now become the entire housing military.

That made my brain hurt.

I dare you to diagram it.

I'm still trying to figure out what it is.

*pokes it with a stick*

It appears to be a gorilla in a $500 sentence suit...

Put it in the pile next to boob's antenna.

Can I sue?

Got it, so the GOP-tards stay at home and don't work!!!

If one was able to get base housing for the family than money certainly was not an issue.

Emotional life was extremely difficult for the family, almost all the kids end up with insecure emotional problems. Guess that social life growing up with friends does matter.

This explains her problem.

Only people speaking the language of known conflict have now become the entire housing military.

Sounds like an obama housing plan to me.

The sad problem is your average American is very gullible, ignorant, unimaginative and idealistic. People like CC and Chairborne on this board are prime examples of this.
...

Posted by furio at 2008-08-22 10:05 A

Wow, Foolio, you addicted to me, baby? I hadn't even shown up on this thread yet
here you are shoveling your Budapest bull my way even when I'm asleep.

N egy tkkelttt idita, Foolio.

Look at it from the GOP's point of view.

Their agenda is to keep the have-mores happy and corporate America on welfare, fat and happy. Since the vast majority of us are not have-mores and since most of us only benefit indirectly and minimally, if at all, from keeping corporate America on welfare, fat and happy and so have no reason to vote for them then they have to distract us. They do this with Willie Horton, flags, gays, abortion, impeachments, swiftboats, racism and personal attacks on the character of their opponents that are nearly always based on lies. They even do this to each other when necessary as John McCain well knows from the 2000 GOP nomination campaign.

The point is it works because we don't treat people like Karl Rove and their employers with the contempt they deserve and so allow it to work. The media finds it very profitable to encourage it because they can flood the airwaves with such negativity and get billions of dollars for it.

It's our own fault. If we once said we've had enough of it the Republican party would have to change its ways and represent America as a whole rather than the more privileged segment of it.

Ah. So many good memories. I never should've taken them for granted. I had no idea how privileged we all were.

Posted by rightisright at 2008-08-22 11:21 AM

That is because YOU were a grunt.

There is a big difference between an officers life in the military and an enlisted man's life.

I remember it too.

"Mine was not to reason why but mine was just to do or die." Ya we get it.

nice try...

Only people speaking the language of known conflict have now become the entire housing military.

I guess we have all kinds of housing here in the states..........what language do those people speak?

Posted by moneywar at 2008-08-22 11:25 AM | Reply

Seriously, who the fuck knows what he meant?

Republicans have always used such tactics because their agenda is not beneficial to the average voter so they can't run on that so their only way of winning is to run attacks on character and personality.

So true, and Obama's higher taxes are always beneficial to the average voter. Oh wait, that's not true. Rather, it's only by "saying" that he's for the average voter that makes him on their side. He'll tax them nonetheless. And Kool-Aid drinkers will continue to believe his lies!

I still don't know, but it's been immortalized in my "User Information".

Only people speaking the language of known conflict have now become the entire housing military.

I've got no other choice but to funny flag it. I'm fuckin' perplexed.

h.c. - i didn't say it - malkin did on fox news!

"So true, and Obama's higher taxes are always beneficial to the average voter. Oh wait, that's not true. Rather, it's only by "saying" that he's for the average voter that makes him on their side. He'll tax them nonetheless. And Kool-Aid drinkers will continue to believe his lies!"

No, if you will put down the cup of Kool Aide and go to Obama's web site you will see that Obama wants a tax cut for most working class Americans.
You need to get your information from something besides McBush's campaign commercials.

Obama's tax CUTS are more then McCain's for middle class Americans.

Why do the right wingers believe everything they're told?

Obama's web site you will see that Obama wants a tax cut for most working class Americans.
You need to get your information from something besides McBush's campaign commercials.

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Funny flag! Don't listen that propaganda...listen to this propaganda!

listen to

101, you're ignoring the fact that McCain's grandfather was also an Admiral, so they were pretty much treated like Navy royalty from the moment he was born.

"Funny flag! Don't listen that propaganda...listen to this propaganda!"

At least my defense of Obama is based on what he really has on his web site not on what his opponents make up. No one can really predict what any politician will do when elected, all we can do is look at what they say and what they have done in the past. McCain's attack ads do neither, they are just blatant lies when he claims Obama will raise taxes on working class Americans.

"No one can really predict what any politician will do when elected, all we can do is look at what they say and what they have done in the past."
--DANNI

So what has Obama done in the past to make one think he'll actually enact tax cuts for middle class Americans? (just asking, not rhetorically)

okay so here is the way it works

people who dont vote for obama are stupid morons who hate old people and children and any comments or any critical remarks are a smears from the right wing attack machine run by karl rove.......

and the attacks on mccain are the honest truth coming from 'citizens of the world' who are the smartest fuckers in the history of the universe who love little children.(as long as they are 'incoveinently in the womb' and who know how to run our lives through mother government.

there I think that just about covers it all..........

so the rest of us on the right have no reason to even live anymore much less take care of ourselves.

So how will calling McCain to senile to know how many houses he owns going to help Obama get the retired vote? Or was his comment not considered a smear?

Funny..another 4 years and other set of standard attacks. The Republican is ALWAYS stupid, Reagan, Bush 1, Dan Quail, Bush 2, Ford...and the Democrat is ALWAYS smeared - especially when his (or her) real positions are known.

Fact. Obama voted 3 times to with hold medical support to infants of botched abortions. He can dance on this topic...but the recent audio of him on the floor cannot be refuted. (but he wants medical coverage for everyone else?)

Fact. Obama thinks China has it right and the US is wrong. (another recent audio of him on a stump speech) Ask the people that died on the Square if that is the case.

Oh..freedom? Not really that valuble - no real difference between Communist China and what the left would like to see in this country. Which is why I will see PERSONAL attacks on this post..with no real substance)

Fact. Obama wants to tax tax and tax again all in the name of redistribution of wealth (humm..no wonder he thinks that China has it right)

But those are "Smears".

Bushlover two has it right. And the fact is ..you cannot be Logical and be a Democrat.

You cannot logically say "its ok to smoke MJ" AND yet want to stop all tobacco smoking.

You cannot logically want medical coverage for all americans - and withhold it from a new born.

You cannot logically say that we should protect our boarders from terriorists and then kill all provisions from identifing and tracking illegal aliens.

The only Smear is that the core press cannot coverup all the truth (can we say - John Edwards!) anymore.

FOSHAFFER makes it appear that you can't be honest and support Republicans. What a bunch of bull shit.

"So what has Obama done in the past to make one think he'll actually enact tax cuts for middle class Americans?"

All we have is his word but that is more than Mccain is offering.

...so the rest of us on the right have no reason to even live anymore much less take care of ourselves.

Posted by bushlovertwo at 2008-08-22 02:18 PM

Well, that may be true come November 2. I guess that is why they call it the Audacity of Hope!

It has been predicted that the sale of Prozac will go up so all you profiteers get your Lilly stock shares now!

It has been predicted that the sale of Prozac will go up so all you profiteers get your Lilly stock shares now!

see how uplifting and positive the left can be :-(

Well, that may be true come November 2. I guess that is why they call it the Audacity of Hope!

The election is on a Sunday? No wonder Obama is favored.

Danni - You can be honest and be a democrat (which is what I think you really wanted to write)...but you cannot be logical. The policy's and retoric just do not make logical sense.

The quote you attributed to me was not mine, but to the point - his tax plan SAYS that he will not offer a tax cut.

The extra tax on Gas, the tax for sending aid to Africa, the tax on capital gains (which EVERY economist says results in LOWER revenue for the government AND impacts older americans the most) are all directed at redistributing wealth. - which is what he has been brought up to believe. Just listen to what he says.

His voting record is clear as is his very short history as a senator as well as his associations. Sadly paying attention to what he says and then pointing out the issues with them is somehow a "smear". I thought that was standard democratic debate.

One smear I replied to today ...

"Jack Wheeler is a brilliant man who was the author of Reagan's strategy to break the back of the Soviet Union with the star wars race and expose their inner weakness."

This MUST be an oxymoron. No 'brilliant' man could possibly dream up SDI.

"He is a true patriot with a no-nonsense approach to everything. He is also a somewhat well known mountain climber and adventurer."

Nonsense. Climbing mountains is no credential for spouting such nonsense.

"Barack Hussein Obama is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, no balls, nothing but abstract empty rhetoric devoid of real substance."

Work in that middle name and take off, like Star Wars, on a wild flight of fancy. Academic honors, top of every class, author of two books, plans for every flaw Bush has perpetrated upon us, vs. the admiral's kid (and grandkid) who finished at the bottom of his USNA class and got shot his butt down.

"He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects."

Bullshit. Absolutely unfounded.

"The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya. Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively."

Why is this even relevant, if not the good "doctor's" attempt to foment race hate?

"What he isn't, not a genetic drop of, is 'African-American,' the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn't a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the British ended it. Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus ... the perfect Liberal Messiah."

Worthy of Hitler Aryanism, It's all but getting out the calipers to gauge his skull.

"Hillary doesn't understand how a complete neophyte ... stole the nomination. Obamamania is beyond politics and reason. It is a religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to the evil of being white."

Russ, you don't believe this idiocy. "Beyond politics & reason?" Gimme a break.

"Thus Obama has become the white liberals' Christ, offering absolution from the Sin of Being White. There is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of his can diminish it, no arguments ... can be effective against it. The absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to worship him: Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd."

Wooing not just Klan types, not just to the latent Nazi that lurks within most people victims of the corporocracy, but the most ugly, extreme, vindictive "evangelicals." herm

Fact. Obama wants to tax tax and tax again all in the name of redistribution of wealth (humm..no wonder he thinks that China has it right)

Fact: Obama's tax plan would result is bigger returns fer more Americans than John McCain's plan which, like the BushCo plan it emulates will concentrate on making the richer richer and everyone else poorer.

Fact. Obama voted 3 times to with hold medical support to infants of botched abortions. He can dance on this topic...but the recent audio of him on the floor cannot be refuted. (but he wants medical coverage for everyone else?)

Fact: Obama voted against making treatment madatory not to withold treatment.

Fact. Obama thinks China has it right and the US is wrong. (another recent audio of him on a stump speech) Ask the people that died on the Square if that is the case.

[Citation needed]

The people in Tianemen square were not protesting fer democracy they were upset that recent adoption of "free market" policies were creating an oligarchy in the upper part of Chinese society while empoverishing the vast majority. This was spun as a massive demonstration fer "Democracy" in much of the Western press.

The fact that the party that initiated torture and kidnap policies, suspended habeus corpus, spied on citizenry on an unprecedented scale, lied to start a corporately driven war and only allows "loyalty oath" signers to event is now supposed to be the party that values Freedom over the Dems is utterly ridiculous.

GOPhers are the assholes urging folks to give up all kinds of essential liberties in order to achieve a sense of temporary security.

Fact: Frogshafter is incapable of uttering a single truth in any of his posts.

Be Well.

Full of Shit Haffer,

Apparently all "Liberal" thought is the same.

Inconsistency is the heart of false conservative prophets who condemn the poor while embracing Jesus and keeping their rich filthy hands in the cookie jar. Steal with a gun, go to prison, steal with a pen, get picked up by the Republican Campaign Committee or Carlyle Group.

NUTCASE: You are a nut case! Like the Kennedys, kerrys, Soros, Buffett and the rest of the Rich liberal ASSHOLE are honest?

Fact: Obama's tax plan would result is bigger returns fer more Americans than John McCain's plan which, like the BushCo plan it emulates will concentrate on making the richer richer and everyone else poorer.

Higher taxes bring higher returns to Americans?

Fact: Spud confirmed Obama is a Marxist like him.

The Obama plan is so stupid it's insane. As we speak those wealthy Corporate executives are in queue from Washington to Wall Street to Detroit begging for handouts and they are going to get them.

Obama's campaign coffers aren't stuffed by the poor. He owes the barons who supported him and they will be well rewarded if he gets elected.

The Obama tax plan is bait for dupes like Spud and Tony.

Fact: Spud confirmed Obama is a Marxist like him.

~Ray

Ha! Ray sees commies everywhere.

Reds under the bed.
In his shed.
On this thread.
In his head.

Guess it's time to fess up.

Spud is Groucho Marxist!

Obama is Harpo Marxist

McCain is Zeppo Marxist

Ray is Skid Marksist

Glad we cleared that up.

/Ha! Deth is 'hotlinkin' fool' Spud!

Higher taxes bring higher returns to Americans?

More progressive tax returns bring higher returns to more Americans.

Especially if the economy isn't being shit-kicked by an expensive and unneccessary occupation in Iraq.

If Obama fullfills his promise to stop writing blank cheques to Helliburton and other war profiteers then perhaps the economy will improve.

Arguing that McCain's tax plan will solve any of the underlying drains on the American eoonomy initiated by BushCo (that will be perpetuated fer at least the next "hundred years" by McSame) is total insanity.

Obama's campaign coffers aren't stuffed by the poor. He owes the barons who supported him and they will be well rewarded if he gets elected.

Obama has more individual donors and more popular support than McCain.

They both have corporate donors.

ALL politicians in BOTH parties are corporately beholden bitches.

Get over it.

Is Obama a Marxist radical or an elitist, corporatist sellout, Ray?

You can't have it both ways.

Be Well.

Obama IS a Marxist, Spud.
www.bartcop.com

Obama IS a Marxist, Spud.

Ha! Is funny one.

Good eye, Nullifidian!

The thing that really kills Spud about this whole 24/7 Obama Smear-a-thon is the fact that by this point the smears themselves contradict themselves to a great extent and that fact alone should have made more folks angry at the obvious hatchet job being performed here.

At the least it should make folks more skeptical about all this smear/ disinformation/ misinformation/ out of context quotes stuff.

* sigh *

Seems you can explain the obvious to everyone but the oblivious.

Be Well.

John McCain fucks little boys!

See, it's easy. Just make up anything you want! It's the FAUX News way!

OBAMA/BIDEN '08
OBAMA/BIDEN '08
OBAMA/BIDEN '08
OBAMA/BIDEN '08
OBAMA/BIDEN '08
OBAMA/BIDEN '08
OBAMA/BIDEN '08
OBAMA/BIDEN '08
OBAMA/BIDEN '08
OBAMA/BIDEN '08
OBAMA/BIDEN '08
OBAMA/BIDEN '08

.....now THAT'S a winner!

Didn't everyone expect the smears and that they would have an effect??? Republicans have always used such tactics because their agenda is not beneficial to the average voter so they can't run on that so their only way of winning is to run attacks on character and personality.

hmm, i see obama has stepped up his attack ads, about houses....

look obama, no matter what he has said, is no different and neither is his campaign.

from rezko, to ayers, to answer, to his staff member going to syria, to his clinging to God insult, to his flip flopping on every issue, yes mccain has too, but obama is the candidate of change. so what exactly is he going to change, nat'l healthcare not new, nat'l pre k not new, windfall profits tax not new, America should follow whatever countries lead not new, geez, we have all heard this before, every election.

"hmm, i see obama has stepped up his attack ads, about houses...."

Attack ads?!? They pointed out the guy is so out of touch, he doesn't even know how many homes he owns. How can it be an attack ad when McCain wrote the script?

With apologies to HST, folks keep telling Republicans the truth, and they think it's hell.

"National healthcare not new...."

It would be new to actually have some.

"so what exactly is he going to change"

The direction of the Supreme Court.

The tax code.

And he'll get the folks responsible for the worst governance in my lifetime out of power.

That's enough for me; the rest is politics.

~Ray

Ha! Ray sees commies everywhere.

Marxism comes in many forms. In this case, a corporatist form.

Is Obama a Marxist radical or an elitist, corporatist sellout, Ray?

You can't have it both ways.

Hardly any difference as exemplified by the Wall Street bailouts.

More progressive tax returns bring higher returns to more Americans.

Baloney. More progressive tax returns bring higher returns for more corporate Marxists. The impoverishment of middle class Americans continues unabated.

Spud is a dupe.

It has been predicted that the sale of Prozac will go up so all you profiteers get your Lilly stock shares now!

Posted by donnerboy

hey I didnt think about that........wow.....I might be so fuckin rich that I could buy this from rcade and REALLY talk some shit.........thanks for the idea..........

and dan..........I will now grimace and take a dose of medicine.........(a drink) and say......you are correct sir.

for sure the supreme court as I am sure that if obama wins the older ones will gladly retire where they might try and hang on and outlive mccain..( place bullshit age joke here with my compliments)...............

oops forgot.

now that biden is there because he is an "attack dog" as many of you have said, I would expect this to be the LAST thread here about republican smears without EQUAL TIME for the left wing smear machine led by the VP candidate

because we don't treat people like Karl Rove and their employers with the contempt they deserve

Posted by BlueInBushland at 2008-08-22 12:29 PM | Reply

Well sure you do. You sit in front of a computer screen and bitch and moan every day, mostly to people just like you who also sit in front of a computer all day.

Be proud. You're doing everything you possibly can.

Ah yes, Danni has been at the Koolaid early this morning.

Fact: Obama was Illinois State Senator for seven years, representing the Suth Side of Chicago
Fact: Obama has been Illinois US Senator for 3 1/2 years
Fact: NOBODY is elected to office from Chicago without Mayor Richard Daley's blessing
Fact: Nobody gets elected a Senator from Illinois without Mayor Daleys blessing

Question: What City has the Highest Sales Tax in the entire USA?
Question: What County in which State has the highest Sales tax in the USA
Question: What City is the major city in the County with the Highest Sales Tax in the USA?

Answer to Question 1: Chicago, IL
Answer to Question 2: Cook County, IL
Answer to Question 3: Chicago, IL

Tell me again how NOBama is going to LOWER taxes for all Americans when he represents the State with the County and City with the HIGHEST Sales Tax in the entire United States....

Danni can read NOBama web site all she wants. If she wants to know what will happen to the USA if NOBama is elected President she needs to move to Chicago, preferably to one of Antoin Rezko or Allison Davis's apartment buildings.
Antoin Rezko and Allison Davis received over 44 MILLION dollars of taxpayor money with the help of NOBama. SIXTEEN of the building they were supposed to refurbish in NOBama's State Senate District are now either boarded up, demolished or forclosed upon.
Who is Allison Davis? Barack NOBama's former boss, whom NOBma voted ONE MILLION DOLLARS of charity money to and Davis pocketed $750,000 of that money. NOBama didn't tell any of the other members of the board of the charity that Davis was his former boss or they would not have voted to approve the funds for him.

Last but not least, NOBama claims that he never knew that over ONE THOUSAND apartments in his State Senate District were unfit for human habitation, where owned by Rezko and Davis and also claims that not ONE SINGLE person living in those 1,000+ apartments EVER WROTE HIM ONE SINGLE LETTER OF COMPLAINT even though he was their State Senate representative for SEVEN Years! By the way, NOBama has refused to release ONE SINGLE page of corresepondence for the entire SEVEN YEARS he was a State Senator... Yet he screamed bloody murder for Hillary Clinton to release her appointment schedules for her entire eight years as First Lady, even though being First Lady is not an elective office and the public has no right to any information from a person who is not a public servant. But they DO have a right to see the correspondence of people who they elect to a public office like a STATE SENATOR!

Pass the Kool aid, I want to live in a dreamland where everything a politician says is the truth too....

Obama is missing the fundamental disconnect that wipes out "hope" candidates. Human behavior is typically defined by what we could "loose" if an outcome occurs thus the negative campaigning by McCain highlighting what the potential bad will be if obama gets elected. Human behavior seldom (if ever) takes into account the positive from an obama presidency.

Come on now. Are they "smears," or are they "exposes?"

Or should basic facts regarding Obama's corruption, hate cult membership, communist and terrorist affiliations, and the like be suppressed? Why?

Because you have created a false image of Obama, and can't abide the fact that he is a creepy guy?

Are they "smears," or are they "exposes?"

They're smears fer the most part.

Or should basic facts regarding Obama's corruption, hate cult membership, communist and terrorist affiliations, and the like be suppressed? Why?

The facts are that McCain is the most corrupt candidate in this race by a long shot, his church isn't a hate cult membership, that would more properly describe the demns of inequity that are the churches of the anti-equal rights and anti-woman's rights evDEVILicals and Tailibaptists. Communist? Don't be an absolute moron fer once, eh? Obama is centrist with one foot over the line to the left and McCain is a NeoCon in moderates clothing. More of a corporate meat puppet than the Maverick he likes to make out he is. By wishing to extend the American occupation of Iraq beyond the expressed wishes of the Iraqi people McCain is more of a terrorist than anyone Obama has ever associated with.

Because you have created a false image of Obama, and can't abide the fact that he is a creepy guy?

No you KuKluxKlown, it's you who've created the false image.

And it's you who can't abide the fact that you are a really, REALLY creepy guy.

S'rsly, ...btw, yer also crazier than a shit-house rat.

Seek help.

Be Well.

/G08ama.

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