Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Wednesday, August 20, 2008

The alleged "bigfoot" turns out to be a rubber gorilla suit frozen in ice. Discoverers Matthew Whitton and Ricky Dyer refused comment.

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Didn't see that coming now did ya?

"The Real Bigfoot Hunter" Tom Biscardi began to thaw out the creature in a 1,500 lb. cooler of ice,

Phew

A suit? Wasn't BuffaloBob adamant that it wasn't a suit (I believe he claimed a $500 suit)?

So it is your contention that these guys paid $500 for a costume--took some pictures of it--and then expect the world to give them credibility.

In the link I posted--a newsperson was invited to an inspection of the body. That's going to be sort of tough to fake.

Either you are very stupid, or they are--we'll find out soon enough.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-15 12:06 PM | Reply

Now Soheifox was the one to first claim it was a suit in the cooler. Then Northguy linked it.

Wasn't BuffaloBob adamant that it wasn't a suit (I believe he claimed a $500 suit)?

Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-08-19 03:34 PM

No dumbass, Buffalo Bob was not adamant it wasn't a suit.

I said if it was a suit, these guys are incredibly stupid for saying they found Big Foot when it would be so easy to prove them liars.

I stand by that statement.

If these guys received money--it seems they could be imprisoned for fraud.

101

You can apologize when you get the integrity.

Ya'know I looked at that picture when it came out and said to myself, "Myself, that's a rubber fucking ape suit if I ever saw one".

On another note, one of these "bigfoot hunters" is a cop in a neighboring county that's out on medical leave while he recovers from a line of duty shooting. I've gotta wonder if felony fraud is something that's not quite compatible with continued employment as a cop.

Reagan 58

Exactly--this was an incredbly stupid thing for someone to try to pull off--especially someone who used to be a cop.

I don't think people would spend $500 on suit to try to fool people for a couple of days--only to have your reputation fuined for life. I don't think they would go to all that trouble trying to preserve it in a frost free freezer if it was fake. Maybe that makes sense to you--but not to me.
POSTED BY BUFFALO_BOB AT 2008-08-15 12:15 PM | REPLY

I looked at the link. I don't think the guy is stupid enough to think he would fool anybody with a Big Foot suit. The idea is too stupid. You are the only one who believes anything about this story..
POSTED BY BUFFALO_BOB AT 2008-08-15 12:23 PM | REPLY

Words have meaning BuffaloBoob. So do punctuation marks. I asked a question, and it turned out the answer was "yes".

You are one crazy son of a bitch.

What am I gonna do with these 5,000 Bigfoot 2008 t-shirts?

101

Read the last thing you posted about what I said Dumbass. Look again.

You are the only one who believes anything about this story..
POSTED BY BUFFALO_BOB AT 2008-08-15 12:23 PM | REPLY

That means I don't believe or don't disbelieve.

I stand by all statements--and no one except your stupid ass see me saying that the Big Foot story is fact.

It says if it isn't true--the people who put the story forward are incredibly stupid. Almost as stupid as you.

You can apologize when you get the integrity.

I stand by all statements--and no one except your stupid ass see (SIC) me saying that the Big Foot story is fact.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-19 04:04 PM | Reply

Uh, hey stupid...My claim was that you were adamant that it wasn't a suit. Remember? It's only 10 or so posts above this one.

Apologize.

But what if you really still have faith that it is bigfoot? all other evidence to the contrary?

Read the last thing you posted about what I said Dumbass. Look again.

You are the only one who believes anything about this story..
POSTED BY BUFFALO_BOB AT 2008-08-15 12:23 PM | REPLY

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-19 04:04 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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You wrote that to the guy that posted the "story" about it being a suit you dummy.
You were claiming he was the only one that believed it was a suit.

Are you really that stupid? Crazy and stupid is a bad combo Bob.

"Crazy and stupid is a bad combo Bob."

Yet he seems to come upon it so naturally.

Bob. You said "Maybe that makes sense to you--but not to me." As in, the notion that someone would fake it didn't make sense to you. As in, you didn't believe it was faked. As in, you believed it was real. I know it's hard for your tiny brain to make these connections. That's what the normal people here will do for you, if you just ask.

If these guys received money--it seems they could be imprisoned for fraud.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob

You won't get your money back idiot.

I stand by all statements--and no one except your stupid ass see (SIC) me saying that the Big Foot story is fact.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-19 04:04 PM | Reply

Uh, hey stupid...My claim was that you were adamant that it wasn't a suit. Remember? It's only 10 or so posts above this one.

Apologize.

Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-08-19 04:08 PM | Reply |

Bob,
When are you going to apologize?

Bob, When are you going to apologize?

Using history as a guide, on the 12th. Of never.

Maybe the 13th....

101 Idiot--and Joe Monkey boy

This is my post at 12:23 in its entirety. Gee--it proves you to be a lying asshole.

See what I mean here? bOoB, you're just a true believer. If you had taken 5 minutes to research the guy, you'd know that this guy has been proven as full of shit. But the problem is that, like all true believers, you set out with a conclusion and don't trouble yourself seeking facts, because facts might disprove your conclusion.

Posted by soheifox at 2008-08-15 12:20 PM | Reply

I looked at the link. I don't think the guy is stupid enough to think he would fool anybody with a Big Foot suit. The idea is too stupid. You are the only one who believes anything about this story. I still have an open mind. I have no conclusions yet dUMMy. You just aren't bright enough to figure that out yet. Sad about your brain.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-15 12:23 PM | Reply

That means I haven't made up my mind about the Big Foot story. That's why I placed my confidence in the story at 85%, and said it would fluctuate greatly in the next few days. 85% shows I was not convinced the story was fact. I gave it that high a percentage because of the details provided, and the ease with which the story could be proven false. As it turns out the story was false and my confidence in Big Foot has returned to about 35%.

You can apologize when you get some integrity.

"When Biscardi arrived at their hotel, the pair had vanished."

Probably Bigfoot, looking for his suit.

Bob,
I know this will fall on deaf ears, but the quotes I provided show you were adamant that it wasn't a suit. In multiple posts you claimed you don't believe they would fake it.

Hedging your claim by then saying "If they do they're stupid" doesn't change the fact that you believed they didn't do it.

Now, apologize you hypocrite...

As it turns out the story was false and my confidence in Big Foot has returned to about 35%.

A person with this state of mind is asking for someone else to show "integrity".

LOL

Man, this is like watching a kid being bullied in a schoolyard. Stand up for yourself Bob, don't let the bullies win!

101

Your failure to realize that 85% is not a certanty is proof you can't comprehend the simple fact that I was not convinced it was Big Foot.

The fact that the post you conveniently took out of context clearly states:

I still have an open mind. I have no conclusions yet dUMMy. You just aren't bright enough to figure that out yet. Sad about your brain.
Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-15 12:23 PM | Reply

And you still claim I made the statement it was Big Foot--or made the statement it was not a suit. You simply lie to confrom to your beliefs.

Facts are it is impossible to tell from that pic if it is a suit or the real thing. Facts are if it was a suit, these guys are incredibly stupid for trying to pull off a stunt. Both points are made in my posts. I still stand by both points. I just had an open mind about the whole thing--as my post states.

I still have an open mind. I have no conclusions yet dUMMy. You just aren't bright enough to figure that out yet. Sad about your brain.
Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-15 12:23 PM | Reply

You can apologize when you get some integrity.

Right Bob - you presented every possible reason, both real and hypothetical, that would tend to prove that this wasn't a fake - but we are supposed to believe you hadn't made up your mind yet just because you qualified one post? I don't care if that's what you said. Your tone in the thread was clearly one of condescension toward those who believed the story was fake. Anyone with a brain figured that out in two seconds, and it corresponds perfectly with your stance in every other supernatural/conspiracy thread.

Man, this is like watching a kid being bullied in a schoolyard.

A kid screaming "please beat the shit out of me!!!"

101

Your failure to realize that 85% is not a certanty is proof you can't comprehend the simple fact that I was not convinced it was Big Foot.

By daBoob

You fail to realize I said you were adamant that it wasn't a suit.
Let me repost it for you dummy...

A suit? Wasn't BuffaloBob adamant that it wasn't a suit (I believe he claimed a $500 suit)?

Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-08-19 03:34 PM | Reply

Why exactly are you pretending that this is about your crazy belief in bigfoot when it is obviously about your belief that it wasn't a bigfoot suit?

You are a punk, a liar, and a dummy. Now apologize...

These quotes here prove you believed it wasn't a suit. Go clean yourself up you crazy old coot.

I don't think people would spend $500 on suit to try to fool people for a couple of days--only to have your reputation fuined for life. I don't think they would go to all that trouble trying to preserve it in a frost free freezer if it was fake. Maybe that makes sense to you--but not to me.
POSTED BY BUFFALO_BOB AT 2008-08-15 12:15 PM | REPLY

I looked at the link. I don't think the guy is stupid enough to think he would fool anybody with a Big Foot suit. The idea is too stupid. You are the only one who believes anything about this story..
POSTED BY BUFFALO_BOB AT 2008-08-15 12:23 PM | REPLY

I looked at the link. I don't think the guy is stupid enough to think he would fool anybody with a Big Foot suit. The idea is too stupid. You are the only one who believes anything about this story. I still have an open mind. I have no conclusions yet dUMMy.

----

Bob,

You can't shoot down an idea and then say you have have an open mind and have no conclusions. Shooting down an idea is coming to a conclusion at least in regards to the posed idea.

Pirate

I didn't shoot down any idea--I stated an opinion. I didn't think the guy was that stupid--I was mistaken. He was that stupid.

But I didn't shoot down the idea that it could have been a suit.

I would have the same opinion in the future. If YOU said you had Big Foot in a freezer, I would say the same thing. I don't think you would be stupid enough to say such a thing unless it were true. That's my opinion.

You can't shoot down an idea and then say you have have an open mind and have no conclusions

Sure he can!!!

101

Do you really think taking the same thing out of context again and agian and again will make it true? It just shows your true lack of integritly again and again and again. Again--here is ther real 12:23 post in it entirety. I've highlighted what you edited.

xxxxxxxxx

This is my post at 12:23 in its entirety. Gee--it proves you to be a lying asshole.

See what I mean here? bOoB, you're just a true believer. If you had taken 5 minutes to research the guy, you'd know that this guy has been proven as full of shit. But the problem is that, like all true believers, you set out with a conclusion and don't trouble yourself seeking facts, because facts might disprove your conclusion.

Posted by soheifox at 2008-08-15 12:20 PM | Reply

I looked at the link. I don't think the guy is stupid enough to think he would fool anybody with a Big Foot suit. The idea is too stupid. You are the only one who believes anything about this story. I still have an open mind. I have no conclusions yet dUMMy. You just aren't bright enough to figure that out yet. Sad about your brain.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-15 12:23 PM | Reply

You can apologize when you get some integrity

I didn't think...

You can stop there, Boober.

Bigfoot is an Empty Suit

Bigfoot is a politician, who knew.

(Sorry it was just dangling out there and no one ran with it).

Right Bob - you presented every possible reason, both real and hypothetical, that would tend to prove that this wasn't a fake

It is called looking at all sides of the issue and weighing possiblities.

- but we are supposed to believe you hadn't made up your mind yet just because you qualified one post?

I think I can find other posts that reinforce that concept since it is the only concept I had in mind. If I hear much more about this I will look for another post that shows the same open mindedness about the subject.

I don't care if that's what you said. Your tone in the thread was clearly one of condescension toward those who believed the story was fake.

My tone of condescension was for those who had made up their mind, when such a conclusion was not possible.

Anyone with a brain figured that out in two seconds, and it corresponds perfectly with your stance in every other supernatural/conspiracy thread.

All the others you mentioned are backed up by video proofs. Either believe the videos and logic or don't. I never was a Big Foot fanatic, but I believe it is possible and gave it a 35% chance. Still do. But like the others--if there is a picture, and seemingly reputable people backing it up with their reputations, I give it a high probability--like 85%--of being true. That doesn't mean I believe it. I believe it when confirmation comes through.

Same with the blue blob---I don't know what it is--but everyone else thinks it is a bug--even though no one can duplicate the effect. People have to evaluate which is more logical. Which is more valid. Do you believe it is it a bug even though no one has been able to duplicate the effect---or do you believe it is a bug because everyone else says it is a bug?

Same with the smokestack on the moon. Is it a still picture that somehow has movement in it, or is it exactly what it looks like? Which is more logical?

www.youtube.com

Now, I was curious enough to buy a copy of "To the Moon" to evaluate the footage myself. You can barely see it and it could easily be overlooked. In fact, I missed it several times during playback even though I knew it was there. The dvd at that point has the astronauts reading from the bible on Christmas Eve. There is no mention of the smokestack, and it is on for less than a second. Maybe 4 frames.

Again, this is an evaluation of probabilities. Could this be a single frame that has a smudge as suggested, that somehow has movement and then the frame returns to an unsmudged state? Or is it exactly what it looks like? Well, I used to be a projectionist for several years, and smudges don't do that, either in developing or in projection. The zoom had little to do with it IMO, and is a standard editing process. However, even on this I am not convinced it is absolutely a smokestack, indicating life, or a smokestack, indicating volcanic activity. My evaluation is like this

Smokestack indicating life--85%

Smokestack indicating volcanic activity--85%

Smokestack is smudge--.05%

But I don't claim to know what it is. Because I don't know what it is. Same with the Big Foot in the Freezer. I high confidence no one would put their reps on the line so foolishly--but not 100%. As stated.

Posted by JOE at 2008-08-19 04:46 PM | Reply

I didn't think...

You can stop there, Boober.

Posted by PeeAtwater at 2008-08-19 05:19 PM | Reply

Yes you can take things out of context as well as anyone Pee.

You're a joke, Bob.

Kudos...

No, he's going to dodge out by saying "I only 85% believed. I was wrong, Bigfoot exists, but these two people perpetrated a hoax". He's not going to admit that he is blinded by belief, and ignorant of scientific method.

Posted by soheifox at 2008-08-15 12:16 PM

www.drudge.com

Smokestack indicating volcanic activity--85%

bOoB is an idiot -- 100%

This just proves that you come to conclusions without taking in real data. Seismic activity on the moon is virtually zero which makes active volcanoes an impossibility.

And you say you examine all evidence and keep an open mind. I think you left it open for so long your brain escaped 50 years ago.

You're a joke, Bob.

And not even a funny one anymore. At first his schtick was humorous, but it is so old and trite now it is simply yawn producing.

Smokestack indicating life--85%

Smokestack indicating volcanic activity--85%

Proof that da bOoB has a small problem with numbers. Since life and volcanic activity are mutally exclusive possibilities, it is impossible to give more than 50% chance to each.

LOL

What am I gonna do with these 5,000 Bigfoot 2008 t-shirts?

Posted by shirtsbyeric

Go to Baghdad. Find a guy named Bowa. Sell your shirts next to his RudiG thongs.

Buy a lobster dinner that costs more than $2.

Whatever became of BOWA? Who is he now?

No, he's going to dodge out by saying "I only 85% believed. I was wrong, Bigfoot exists, but these two people perpetrated a hoax". He's not going to admit that he is blinded by belief, and ignorant of scientific method.

Posted by soheifox at 2008-08-15 12:16 PM

www.drudge.com

Posted by Pirate at 2008-08-19 06:01 PM |

I've never said Big Foot exists. If I believed Big Foot exists--I would say it exists. That makes you stupid for posting this nonsense.
And a liar for trying to pass this shit off as saying I said I believed in Big Foot.

BB: I realize it is not your style, but in this instance maybe just concede Chairborne is correct and move on. Because you are not convincing me, and I am rooting for ya.

Since life and volcanic activity are mutally exclusive possibilities, it is impossible to give more than 50% chance to each.

LOL

Posted by goatman at 2008-08-19 06:23 PM | Reply

Only in your small mind.

Smokestack indicating life--85%

Smokestack indicating volcanic activity--85%

Smokestack indicating Goatman is a moron--90%

They are mutually exclusive, which means if one is wrong the other could be 100%.

I think it 85% indicates life, but if wrong about that--I think it would be 85% that it would be volcanic activity.

See--I don't know what it is--only you say I know what it is.

This just proves that you come to conclusions without taking in real data. Seismic activity on the moon is virtually zero which makes active volcanoes an impossibility.

Life falls into the same category, and I know about the lack of seismic activity on the moon. I've known that before you were out of diapers. I also see what looks like a smokestack on the moon spouting something out the top. I don't buy the smudge on a still picture. It could be a smudge--but I give it a 0.05 chance. As stated I give it an 85% chance of being an indication of life. If that is mistaken I would give it an 85% chance of being volcanic activity. What do you think it is?

And you say you examine all evidence and keep an open mind. I think you left it open for so long your brain escaped 50 years ago.

Posted by goatman at 2008-08-19 06:04 PM | Reply | Flag

Do you see a CONCLUSION anyplace there little mind? If so post it. I'd like to see what conclusion you think an 85% estimate gives.
Nothing is concluded with an 85% probability.

DumMy.

Only in your small mind.

And any mind with an elementary school or better education.

If the two scenarios you laid out were not mutally exclusive, you would be correct. But since volcanic activity and life are not the same, it is impossible.

That's like saying when you flip a coin (where landing heads or tails is a mutually excusive event -- it can't be both) it has a 85% chance of coming up heads or an 85% chance of coming up tails. Even if it is a biased (weighted, say) coin and it had an 85% chance of coming up heads, it can only have a 15% chance of coming up tails.

Basic math, bOoB. But believe what you you want; go even further and display your ignorance by denying basic math -- I don't care. I explained it to you once and that's all I'll do it.

It's bad enough that you don't understand 2nd grade mathematics, but it's simply incredible that you admit it in a public forum

Since life and volcanic activity are mutally exclusive possibilities...

Serious question -- why?

Hawaii often has volcanic activity going on in close proximity to life forms (human, animal, insect, etc.). Or does that statement just pertain to volanic activity on the lunar surface? Or volcanic activity meaning a volcanic eruption which then extinguishes all life forms around it as happened with the eruption of Mt. Helena. Just wondering.

I know about the lack of seismic activity on the moon

Yet you give an 85% chance that there is an active volcano on the moon? WTF?

That's like acknowledging there is no water on the moon, yet you give a photograpic artifact an 85% chance of being a river.

You never cease to amaze me, bOoB

3 posts commenting on the story in the thread.

44 posts commenting on Buffalo Bob arguing with 101.

And I was the dummy that read every one of them.
Those are 20 minutes of my life I will never get back.

Never mind my question above.

Just saw your posts and I guess you both were talking about volcanic activity as pertains only to the lunar surface.

Those are 20 minutes of my life I will never get back.

But if you got a couple of laughs out of it I guess it was worth it.

CC: Bad analogy you laid out. da bOoB said the plumes were either life created OR volcanic action -- not both. That's not to say you can't have a volcano surrounded by life. However said life is not causing the smoke from the volcano

Okay, I got it now, Goat.

BIGFOOT is real! I saw the video.

Please, don't make me cry like this ever again, because it makes all those people in the white coats at this big home of mine come a runnin'.

Yours Truly,

BuffaloBobShit(tm)

Those are 20 minutes of my life I will never get back.

But rcade thanks you and the rest of us for the hits which directly relate to advertising revenue.

BB: I realize it is not your style, but in this instance maybe just concede Chairborne is correct and move on. Because you are not convincing me, and I am rooting for ya.

Posted by moder8 at 2008-08-19 08:51 PM | Reply

I'll move on when someone shows me a post that says I believe in Big Foot--or a Post where I say that that is not a suit. I always talk in possibilties.

This is my first post on the thread. It talks of possibilities--not certainties.

Seems there are all kinds of possibilities.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-14 02:59 PM

And here is my next post.

This guy has certainly put his reputation on the line for a hoax. I wouldn't be so quick to say it isn't real. I was never concerned about the reality of Big Foot, or Sasquatch, but I gave it about a 35% chance. Since this story, it has gone up to about 85%, and it will go dramatically one way or the other in the next few days as this story developes. More pics on Friday.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-15 02:41 AM | Reply

www.drudge.com

Seems I was consistent from the first posts all the way through.

....the reality of Big Foot, or Sasquatch, but I gave it about a 35% chance. Since this story, it has gone up to about 85%,....

YEP BuffaloBobShit(tm), the above from your post certainly shows how consistently stupid you are.

"And I was the dummy that read every one of them.
Those are 20 minutes of my life I will never get back.

Posted by 726 "

General rule of thumb: when you see Goatman/Bob arguing, hit the page down key, rapidly.

Goatman

Gee a coin only has two sides. Whatever that thing on the moon is could be many things--I've already named three. It could be whatever you think it is also. What do you think it could possibly be? Are you going with the smudge--or you could just refuse to see it. But you never even have the guts to state possibilities do you Goatman. You won't say what the thing on the moon is--at least I have the guts to make a statement.

I say there is an 85% chance it is an indication of life

If that is wrong I would say it is an 85% indication of volcanic activity.

I would give it a .05 chance of it being a smudge on a still picture, and I did buy the DVD.

What do you say it is Oh Great Chicken Shit?

Um...just a quick question here:

How in the holy fuck can you have volcanic activity without seismic activity? Did I miss a class or is the former still the cause of the latter?

I for one am quite relieved by this news. I recently read an article about the Bhutanese people's loss of faith in the Yeti. Hearing about this, I was concerned that Big Foot had come to America. How did he get here? How did he get past airport security? Does Bhutan have airport security? Does Bhutan have an airport?

Or did he simply walk across the border? Minutemen (not the band) asleep on the job? Border guards on the take? Can Big Foot jump over the wall that has been built? Certainly it looked like America's security had been breached.

This news will allow us to rest easily for at least a short time. But don't let your guard down. The next one could appear without warning.

How in the holy fuck can you have volcanic activity without seismic activity? Did I miss a class or is the former still the cause of the latter?

Posted by Alexandrite at 2008-08-19 09:22 PM | Reply |

You can't. That's the point. If it is volcanic activity then they have to change their concept of volcanic activity on the moon.
If it is life then they have to change their concept of life on the moon.

If it is a smudge I have to change everything I know about film. However, I would adjust if someone can duplicate the effect.

What do you think it is. Can you see it?

www.youtube.com

Yep, this thread went pretty much as I expected.

lol

We couldn't book Obama, so this was the next best empty suit.
Sincerely, Whitton and Dyer

I don't see anyone else saying what they think that thing is on the moon---are you waiting in line to be sheared---or maybe waiting for the Wizard to give you some guts?

How about you Whatsleft?

What do you see?

www.youtube.com

That's pretty much as I expected.

lol

How in the holy fuck can you have volcanic activity without seismic activity? Did I miss a class or is the former still the cause of the latter?

Posted by Alexandrite at 2008-08-19 09:22 PM

You can't. That's the point.

Yet you give it an 85% chance of being a volcano. That's rich, bOoB -- really fucking rich.

...I would give it an 85% chance of being volcanic activity.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-19 09:02 PM


I'm through with you on this one, bOoB. I just don't know how to compete with math where unity = 175% (85%+85%+5%)and in a world where the impossible has an 85% chance of occuring.

LOL

Later, Mr. Math. Hope you find someone else to argue with

I don't see anyone else saying what they think that thing is on the moon---are you waiting in line to be sheared---or maybe waiting for the Wizard to give you some guts?

Because we've all told you before. (I myself have at least three times) I've suggested many times you take notes, bOoB, since your memory is shot. But obviously you didn't. Don't blame us or make childish innuendos because of your memory problems.

But if you really want to know what I think it is, my user page has my posts from all the times I've told you.

Adios

Goatman

Your logic flawed.

If it is a volcano there is volcanic activity on the moon, then science has been mistaken.

If it is life then science has been mistaken.

I see you still would rather run your punk ass off rather than answer a simple question.

What do you think it is?

Get some guts and come back.

;-)

Quote from Bob...

I don't think people would spend $500 on suit to try to fool people for a couple of days--only to have your reputation fuined for life. I don't think they would go to all that trouble trying to preserve it in a frost free freezer if it was fake. Maybe that makes sense to you--but not to me. However, if it turns out that these guys are as stupid as you think--I'll have no problem believing there was no body. If it is a bigfoot--let's see how quick you are to apologize for your insult. My guess is you don't have the integrity for apologies--or any integrity for that matter.

Either it's a fake or it's real. If you don't think these people would go to all this trouble to fake it, that means you think they are presenting a real one.

I see you still would rather run your punk ass off rather than answer a simple question.

I realize you respond to spam, so I'll try it:

But if you really want to know what I think it is, my user page has my posts from all the times I've told you

But if you really want to know what I think it is, my user page has my posts from all the times I've told you

But if you really want to know what I think it is, my user page has my posts from all the times I've told you

How about you Whatsleft?

What do you see?

Who the hell knows, Bob. It's a YouTube video. I DO know that a photo of a rubber Bigfoot suit in a freezer was enough to mostly convince you. Maybe you need to study up a bit on the word skeptical.

Either it's a fake or it's real. If you don't think these people would go to all this trouble to fake it, that means you think they are presenting a real one.

Posted by Pirate at 2008-08-19 09:53 PM | Reply

That's true. I looked at both possibilities and weighed the probabilities as I saw them. I gave it about an 85% probability for the reasons stated, and I would give the next story that has credible witnesses saying they have Big Foot in a freezer the same probability.

It was my opinion that they weren't stupid enough to make such claims. I was mistaken about that, but nowhere did I say it couldn't be a suit. I gave it about a 15% chance of being a suit.

Ok...so you were 85% wrong.

www.coasttocoastam.com

I see you still would rather run your punk ass off rather than answer a simple question.

My, my Goat. Your "punk ass" "hiney" or "bum" (as Tosser refers to it), and your photo thereof, has certainly had a prominent roll on various threads this last week or so. People are now even writing posts to it. hahaha.

Who the hell knows, Bob. It's a YouTube video. I DO know that a photo of a rubber Bigfoot suit in a freezer was enough to mostly convince you. Maybe you need to study up a bit on the word skeptical.

Posted by Whatsleft at 2008-08-19 10:07 PM | Reply

First--it is from a NOVA program that got the video from NASA who got it from Apollo 8. I have the DVD.

Second--It wasn't the suit that mostly convinced me--no where do I cite the suit as evidence of anything. The thing that mostly convinced me was the credibility of the witnesses, the details they were telling, and the ease with which they could be proven liars. I've said that several times, but you go ahead and tell yourself I said it was the suit.

Third--You shouldn't think you know everything.

Fourth--The video source is NOVA and NASA--not Youtube, any more than your radio is the source for all the music you hear. So--what do you see? Can you see anything? What is it?

www.youtube.com

Some great photos of the lunar surface in the link below taken by Apollo 8 mission.

Although it does not show the alleged "smokestack" image I can see where some of these craters might give a false impression of a rise on the lunar surface when viewed from another angle even though you see no "smoke" coming from the surface,

If nothing else, these photography closeups from the website "Openminds" are worth a look. Fantastic shots. Keep scrolling down.

Lunar Surface Photos

Moons, volcanos...

Shit Bob, how about the myth about the Hodag? Do the google...

Wisgod

What do you see Super Genius?

www.youtube.com

Here--enjoy a bottle of STFU.

;-)

Ok...so you were 85% wrong.

Posted by Pirate at 2008-08-19 10:13 PM |

I would agree with that.

C'mon, anyone who finds a real Bigfoot body is going to be parading it around on the morning news shows by the next day. They're going to make sure they cash in as fast as possible. Anyone with half a brain knew this was a fake.

So Tom Biscardi had his Geraldo moment?

An empty suit? Just like Obama! ;o)

Anyone with half a brain knew this was a fake.

Since da bOoB was 85% sure it was a fake, does this mean he has only 42.5% of brain?

"Since da bOoB was 85% sure it was a fake, does this mean he has only 42.5% of brain?

Almost. It turns out Bob is a 40-pound dwarf, with testicles weighing ten pounds apiece.

In other words, he's half nuts.

you guys are so mean

...said jokingly

C'mon, anyone who finds a real Bigfoot body is going to be parading it around on the morning news shows by the next day. They're going to make sure they cash in as fast as possible. Anyone with half a brain knew this was a fake.

Posted by TFDNihilist at 2008-08-20 12:45 AM | Reply

That's pretty much what these guys did. Did you expect them to put the body on the plane? Do you think they would carry the body around like Bernie?They announced it one day and set up DNA tests and scedules for investigation the same day. What was your clue that it was fake?

"What was your clue that it was fake?"

You thought it was real.

What was your clue that it was fake?

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-20 01:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

It looked like a gorilla costume in a freezer. One of the guys representing the story of the two hunters was previously busted for fake Bigfoot evidence.

And what danforth said, too...

What if 'Bigfeet' ARE rubber mammals? (snark)

You thought it was real.

Posted by Danforth at 2008-08-20 01:22 AM | Reply

I never said I thought it was real. We just spent about a hundred posts discussing it. Where was your post on the thread where you said it was a fake?

It's easy to make a call after the fact.

You thought it was real.

That has to be one of the funniest posts I've read in a long time. I'm still laughing.

FF needless to say

What was your clue that it was fake?

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-20 01:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

It looked like a gorilla costume in a freezer. One of the guys representing the story of the two hunters was previously busted for fake Bigfoot evidence.

And what danforth said, too...

Posted by Alexandrite at 2008-08-20 01:25 AM | Reply

Where was your post on the thread stating it was definitely a fake?

It's easy to make the call after the fact.

Already flagged it. lol

Where was your post on the thread stating it was definitely a fake?

I was too busy reading articles about the previous fake bigfoot evidence to post(and make an ass of myself)

Good for you, though...for making an ass of yourself.

"Where was your post on the thread where you said it was a fake?"

Nowhere. As soon as you chimed in, I knew immediately, and avoided it like the plague.

Danforth

Right.

And now of course you don't mind associating with me to tell me how brilliant you were and knew all along it was a fake.

Run along punk. I think Goatman has a job for you.

Good for you, though...for making an ass of yourself.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2008-08-20 01:44 AM | Reply

I made a statement--I didn't come in later and make the call.

I think you are a punk along with Danforth.

Blow it out your moonstacks, pud.

"I never said I thought it was real"

Just that you didn't think it would be faked.

"to tell me how brilliant you were and knew all along it was a fake."

Bigfoot doesn't exist. What else do I need to know?

Anyway, take heart, Bob...85% wrong is better than you usually do.

I think Goatman has a job for you.

Not unless he knows SCRs (Silicon Controlled Rectifiers) and can get a helicopter flight out here in the next 4 hours. Tonight I'm working on one that controls one of the mud pumps.

But thanks for offering his assistance.

Blow it out your moonstacks, pud.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2008-08-20 02:00 AM | Reply

You are still a punk. You didn't even say what you thought that was on the moon. Maybe when they get up there in ten years and make a special about it, you can say you knew what it was all along.

Maybe when they get up there in ten years and make a special about it, you can say you knew what it was all along.

Ten years? In 2018? I thought some kind of horrible disaster was supposed to befall mankind in 2012? You've said you thought so on several occasions, anyway. It can't be that bad if we are able to gather up our marbles and fly to the moon within 6 years afterwards.

Or did you forget?

Goat --

Your rig now working near that spot you spoke about before -- the one where you guys would all have to take extra precautions just in case you hit some gas leak?

sorry -- thought you had gone back to work and would answer when you got back.

You and BBob continue on...I'll check back later.

Or did you forget?

Posted by goatman at 2008-08-20 02:18 AM

I didn't forget numbnuts. You seem to think that people can only plan for one possible future. Are you really that stu---never mind.

Your rig now working near that spot you spoke about before -- the one where you guys would all have to take extra precautions just in case you hit some gas leak?

No, we never went there. When I came back a few days ago, we were in the same place. Seems this hole collapsed and they are trying to salvage it. Expect gas to go up $2.50/gal. *grin* We should be going there in a couple of weeks. So I still have my beard for now.

However, it looks like the hurricane is doing a strange dance and we are now in the its sights again. We may be evacuating for real in a couple of days.

I haven't heard the work 'punk' in years -- maybe decades. How funny. Now that song by The Tubes "White Punks on Dope" is stuck in my head.

Thanks a lot, bOoB

Just heard the latest weather on storm a few minutes ago. As we heard earlier it suppose to head back out to the Atlantic. But just now they said they also expect it to pick up steam when it's out there and come roaring back in at possible hurricane strength. You just may get those couple days off you wanted to party in New Orleans -- keep your fingers crossed. Fay seems to be dancing all over the place.

"Punk" seems to be BBob's favorite word for today.

Did you just see a rerun of "Dirty Harry" BBob?'

"Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?

Dirty Harry only used 44 magnums. You'd never see him with a car antenna.

. Seems this hole collapsed and they are trying to salvage it. Expect gas to go up $2.50/gal.

That's one thing I did learn from you about off shore drilling -- how an oil company could spend millions working on extracting oil from just one hole and then it could suddenly cave in or a pipe could break and they lose everything. Not only the oil they hoped to get but from it but also leasing costs, production costs, manhours, etc. It almost makes me look at both sides of the issue when it comes to the cost of oil. Err, at least until I pull my car into the gas station and then my sympathy starts to wane a little. Actually about then my sympathy all goes out right out the window. hahaha.

Okay, you boys go back to beating each other up. : )

BuffaloBob

Before I leave this thread now --

Just in case you missed them, last night I left you some pictures on the "Why We Like Monsters" thread. One really classic one from "The Creature from the Black Lagoon" and another one from the movie "Tarantula" -- gives me the shivers just typing the word. I don't like spiders.

Sorry it was just dangling out there and no one ran with it

That just sounds...WRONG.

What I never got was why there were smokestacks on the moon when you can't even get a fire going up there.


Those are 20 minutes of my life I will never get back.

But rcade thanks you and the rest of us for the hits which directly relate to advertising revenue.

Posted by goatman

Well now I feel much better about it.

That's pretty much what these guys did. Did you expect them to put the body on the plane? Do you think they would carry the body around like Bernie?They announced it one day and set up DNA tests and scedules for investigation the same day. What was your clue that it was fake?

they did that to set up the payoff, which the bigfoot researcher was glad to pay, then the left with the funds, classic scam.

I sort of liked the title the way it was, RCade.

If bigfoot is an empty gorilla suit then he is no different from the neocons.

What I never got was why there were smokestacks on the moon when you can't even get a fire going up there.

Posted by Sully at 2008-08-20 09:07 AM | Reply

Sully--you don't get shit--ever. I'm surprised you can feed youself or type your responses. You have a trained pet monkey don't you. Ask your monkey what it sees. See if it is smarter than you. I'm betting on the monkey.

www.youtube.com

You thought it was real.

Posted by Danforth at 2008-08-20 01:22 AM | Reply

I never said I thought it was real.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-20 01:30 AM | Reply

I don't think people would spend $500 on suit to try to fool people for a couple of days--only to have your reputation fuined for life. I don't think they would go to all that trouble trying to preserve it in a frost free freezer if it was fake. Maybe that makes sense to you--but not to me.
POSTED BY BUFFALO_BOB AT 2008-08-15 12:15 PM | REPLY

I looked at the link. I don't think the guy is stupid enough to think he would fool anybody with a Big Foot suit. The idea is too stupid. You are the only one who believes anything about this story..
POSTED BY BUFFALO_BOB AT 2008-08-15 12:23 PM | REPLY

That is where you typed that you thought the suit wasn't fake, aka "it was real".

I've kicked you around for years on this site. You've never admitted you were beaten before, and you won't do it now. It's because you are a shallow little bitch whose senile and fragile ego would crumble. You are a pathetic little child.

101

You've sucked your own dick for years. You've never made a point against me. Ever.

No where in those posts do I say anything about the suit. I'm talking about the people making the claims.

Moron.

I give 101 about 45 seconds until he shows up on this thread to answer BBob

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No where in those posts do I say anything about the suit. I'm talking about the people making the claims.

Moron.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-20 12:38 PM | Reply | Flag

I don't think people would spend $500 ON SUIT to try to fool people for a couple of days--only to have your reputation fuined (SIC) for life. I don't think they would go to all that trouble trying to preserve IT in a frost free freezer if IT was fake. Maybe that makes sense to you--but not to me.
POSTED BY BUFFALO_BOB AT 2008-08-15 12:15 PM | REPLY

Any more questions dummy? You've been completely owned.
CASE CLOSED!!!

101

you have to prove your stupidity in every post don't you.

I'll be glad to help.

Here is a nice English lesson.

First sentence.

I don't think people would spend $500 ON SUIT to try to fool people for a couple of days--only to have your reputation fuined (SIC) for life.

That sentence is talking about human motivation--nothing about a suit.

second sentence.

"I don't think they would go to all that trouble trying to preserve IT in a frost free freezer if IT was fake."

The IT was the body of Bigfoot. Nothing about a suit.

I have stated that I believed these guys because of their statements--nothing to do with any pics of any suit. I said I was about 85% confident they were telling the truth, but that my opinion would change dramtaically one way or the other in the coming days.

That means I had come to no definite comnclusions.

That's how the English language works

You lose again. As usual.

DUmmy.

101

here is a post early on that shows my believes in this Big Foot Hoax--this was to Goatman after he accused me of being a "true believer".

Nice strawman dUmmy. I never said I believed. I said I was at about 35% before the story and at about 85% believing now--but that it would go one way or another dramatically in the coming days as more evidence is provided.

The only people professing any type of belief in this story are those saying it is a hoax--people like NG3--who profess to believe they spent 500 on this hoax--that's stupid if they did it--and he's stupid for believing they did it if they didn't.

Glad to see your record as a lying dUMmy is still intact. I doubt it will ever be broken.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-15 12:21 PM | Reply

Boob,
you are a lost cause. Even those rooting for you have told you that I won and you lost. Not that it even needed to be said.

If you aren't a spoof then you are without a doubt retarded.

101

You are a hero in your own mind. Believe what you like. I have been consistent throughout. You simply lie to change the facts.

Nice strawman dUmmy. I never said I believed. I said I was at about 35% before the story and at about 85% believing now--but that it would go one way or another dramatically in the coming days as more evidence is provided.

The only people professing any type of belief in this story are those saying it is a hoax--people like NG3--who profess to believe they spent 500 on this hoax--that's stupid if they did it--and he's stupid for believing they did it if they didn't.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-15 12:21 PM | Reply

Thems the faks jak

Boob,
You were provided with 2 of your quotes where you choose to believe the suit was real. If you are delusional enough to think you explained those away (which everyone knows you are), then you're beyond help.

Not one single person has seen this your way, not one. Everyone but you knows the score.

You are a punk with a fragile ego. I've kicked sand in your face repeatedly.

101

You've lied repeatedly

If I believed the story I would have said so then, and I would say so now. I don't give a wild fuck what morons like you think. The facts are I spelled out my thoughts on the subject in the beginning and have stayed consistent all the way through. Your lies don't change the facts.

Nice strawman dUmmy. I never said I believed. I said I was at about 35% before the story and at about 85% believing now--but that it would go one way or another dramatically in the coming days as more evidence is provided.

The only people professing any type of belief in this story are those saying it is a hoax--people like NG3--who profess to believe they spent 500 on this hoax--that's stupid if they did it--and he's stupid for believing they did it if they didn't.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-15 12:21 PM | Reply

Thems the faks jak

Boob,
How many times do I need to tell you we're talking about your belief that the suit wasn't a fake?

I know you want to change it to the subject where you were only 85% wrong as opposed to the one where you're 100% wrong and getting sand kicked in your face, but it isn't happening.

You've been absolutely battered. Even more so than usual. I'm done picking on you because I really do believe you are retarded.

101

How could a suit not be a fake? Do you even read the words you type?

My belief in the subject was stated early on and consistent throughout. Your lies change nothing.

If I believed the story I would have said so then, and I would say so now. I don't give a wild fuck what morons like you think. The facts are I spelled out my thoughts on the subject in the beginning and have stayed consistent all the way through. Your lies don't change the facts.

Nice strawman dUmmy. I never said I believed. I said I was at about 35% before the story and at about 85% believing now--but that it would go one way or another dramatically in the coming days as more evidence is provided.

The only people professing any type of belief in this story are those saying it is a hoax--people like NG3--who profess to believe they spent 500 on this hoax--that's stupid if they did it--and he's stupid for believing they did it if they didn't.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-08-15 12:21 PM | Reply

Thems the faks jak

Buffalo Bob does not exist. He is a figment of our angry, frustrated imaginations and the real person behind the Bob mask is cracking up at the tizzy he puts us in. Come on people, don't take the bait like Fox and CNN did with the Bigfoot thing. NOBODY can really believe what Bob says in his posts, and I mean NOBODY, EVER. Think about it. He's just doing an impression of George Bush never being wrong to mess with your heads. I'm 85% certain Bob is not real.

"Dance, dance, little puppets, dance to my tune."

- BuffloBob
Puppetmaster Extraudinaire

I'm flattered you guys have been quoting my posts, but really.. why even bother? He's a true believer. He will never let facts get in the way of his beliefs. bOoB is too stupid to admit when he's been beaten. By his standards, repeated proof that every nut who has ever believed in Bigfoot has had every scenario they offered totally destroyed... isn't proof enough that Bigfoot doesn't exist. Like a hardcore rightwing Christian, he can't understand that an idea being brought up over and over and over, but being shot down everytime, means there's a flaw in the theory. That's the core scientific method. But bOoB would rather believe that Bigfoot exists, there's smokestacks on the moon, Armstrong was lying about having ever landed ON the moon but was telling the truth about having seen aliens there, and pyramids are beam weapons.

Oh and that he's a ninja who could do with a car antenna things that a Navy SEAL wouldn't even try.

The scientific method, and lifetimes of experience meen NOTHING to bOoB. You can't shake the beliefs of a religious zealot. A religious zealot would die, go to.. let's say.. Tibetan heaven, let's say they were right, and walk right up to Buddha to claim that he's a false idol. Proof means nothing to a zealot.

Dance little pixies.

www.youtube.com

;-)

Dance little pixies.

Lie, little bOoB.

I'm 85% certain Bob is not real.

I think bOoB is a sad and tired old man who was long ago defeated by life. He has no friends and therefore gets no attention. The only way to get it is to come to this blog and play this role as a 'truth seeker' and deliberately deny things he has said or make outrageous claims to draw the attention he so desperately requires. It matters not that it is negative attention; da bOoB would rather get attention from people slinging shit at him than no attention at all.

bOoB is a long lost has-been sitting in God's waiting room waiting to hear "NEXT!". Until then he screams for attention however he can get it.

An empty suit??? Who do we know that fits that same description??

Bob, you're a scholar, a gentleman, and a credit to your political positions, which your mentality leads you to embrace. You are a liberal, aren't you?

An empty suit??? Who do we know that fits that same description??

You mean something like an empty chimp in a suit?

Unfortunately, we have a lot of evidence for the existence of such a creature.

Cheers

I am now 93.7% sure that Bigfoot is an empty suit.

Signed,
Buffalo_Jubblies

Which will be found first, Bigfoot or Higg's boson.

Bigfoot is undoubtedly so elusive because he is and advanced form of alien life(why would advanced creatures need to wear clothes), and they remove their dead to another star system. Or, they are earthlings but have rituals that dispose of their carcasses, or they are androids and never die. Maybe some of the Bigfoot exists proponents are privy to "secret information" that their oath precludes them from sharing with the uninitiated. Is Bigfoot related to primates? Isa Bigfoot a carbon based bioform?

Good grief. Why has not one body been found, one piece of hair of the creature. Could Bigfoot be a figment of the overactive imaginations of some people? Or is belief in Bigfoot confined to "sensitives," who are more aware than others, and know concealed truths regarding conspiracy theories and other stuff that "they" don't want you to know? Is there some paranoid ideation afoot?

So far, the "evidence" of the existence of Bigfoot is evidence that those advancing the idea and purporting to "prove it," are frauds, liars, con men. That's where the consistent evidence is, that it's a sham or a spoof and it is testimony to the gullibility of members of our species.

Imagination. Imagination can take you anywhere.

You've got to give Buffalo Bob credit as credit is due. Buffalo Bob keeps an open mind.

If you try to walk through a wall ten times and merely bang yourself up, that does not mean that it cannot be done. It only makes it less likely. Those who study quantum mechanics will tell you so. Bob is just open to the occurrence of unlikely events.

Keep on truckin', Bob. Inquiring minds such as yours are on the frontier of new discoveries, which can amaze the Doubting Thomases among us. Imagine heavier than air flight, or rocketry to the moon. If only one in a million of these speculations pans out, it still advances human knowledge. Keep on truckin', and remain impervious to the jibes of outrageous critics.

Of course it was a fake. The men who made the claim are covert FBI. The government wants you to think that all Bigfoot sighting and reports are frauds, so they paraded these guys in front of TV to discredit all Bigfoot investigations. The next time that someone sees a Bigfoot or gets a photograph, everyone will remember this incident and the media will ignore the report, thereby allowing the conspiracy to continue.

Er, KnowsTooMuch, when did such evidence surface in the past? What evidence is there of Bigfoot existing except as a figment of someone's imagination?

Why do you expect such "evidence" in the future? Why is there a need to suppress something that so far has not materialized?

What information do you have regarding "them," the government agencies, which are conducting this preemptive attack to undermine credibility of future claimed sightings? Do you have some pipeline to such information, or is it just unfounded speculation on your part?

You make allegations. Certainly you have some basis for them rather than just concocting a scenario. Share your sources. Or don't they exist, and you are just a confabulist in training.

By the way, someone stole my unicorn. I don't know which of the nefarious governmental agencies is involved, but my unicorn is important, and that makes me important, being targeted by so many big agencies. All of a sudden, I'm a target. Please help me locate my unicorn, and then we can recover it by filing a petition with the, er, let's see, "The League of Nations." My complaint is as valid as your complaint. And I have a plan of action, while you don't put any plan forward.

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