Like all Liberals, Browne thinks it's all about him. Maybe he needs a life.

Yeah, but did he hit Daryl Hannah in the face?

"Like all Liberals, Browne thinks it's all about him. Maybe he needs a life."

what a stupid comment, Browne wrote and holds the copyright, why should McCain use it without permission or fees?

Limbaugh used that gals music for quite a long time as his intro. Nothing new here. Browne is too twitchy. He has some free press now so maybe you should go buy his old albums.

NO rational person could ocnclude that Jackson Browne is supporting McCain. He's a performer, and a celebrity, and is, therefore, more style than substance.

So naturally he will be supporting someone like himself.

Browne wrote and holds the copyright, why should McCain use it without permission or fees?

BECAUSE MCCAIN is not using the song to make money

Sweet Baby James?

Well, only up to a point, apparently.

So... McLame steals jokes from , speeches from Wiki and a song from Jackson Browne?

Actually, it all fits into a rather neat pattern thinks Spud.

Also ...it may well help explain why he married Cindy "I steal drugs and recipes" McTrollop.

Well... Other than the money and the fact that she was half his age.

Running on Empty?

Before McCain stole it from JB the people from Viagra were apparently bidding large fer it according to Spud's impeccable (and largely imaginary) sources.

^_^

"McCain steals jokes from Rush", that should be.

Specifically the "Carter's second term" meme.

Be Well.

BECAUSE MCCAIN is not using the song to make money

HAHAHHAHHAHAHhahha...ha..ha...
.suuure he's not..

Oops...sorry! I don't know what made me channel BLT's style there.

Obama lifts from Bono and others for his speeches--You could argue he lifts from Reagan.

two words "publicity stunt"

Obama lifts from Bono and others for his speeches--

Link?

He could always steal ABBA's "Take a chance on me".

Or Blue Oyster Cult's "Don't fear the reaper".
He probably forgot he didn't write "running on empty".

McSame should use 'the pretender'.

Posted by northguy3 at 2008-08-15 10:10 PM

Or Blue Oyster Cult's "Don't fear the reaper".

He probably forgot he didn't write "running on empty".

Shocking!

Go stand in the corner, and keep singing "Harper Valley PTA."

Hypocrite?

two words "publicity stunt"

~Meshugena

Three words "Wot The Fuck?"

How did Jackson Browne trick McCain into stealing one of his songs just so JB could sue McCain in a cunning bid fer extra publicity?

Riddle me that one and Spud'll stop making fun of ya fer a bit.

Be Well.

Gosh, somebody who rages against sexists and racists is himself an unabashed "age-ist."

What? Do you think it's too much to ask that the person we elect has a fair chance of living through the term of the job?

This is what he should use

Or this

sure wish i could say i had to the very poor taste to purchase some of his albums to use in my skeet shoot practice...PULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLL!

You righties! ALL about personal responsibility, right?
All For Capitalism, property rights, and whatnot...

Why are you guys SOOO pissed that Mr Browne exercised his PROPERTY RIGHTS to the song that McAsswipe tried to steal?
Go piss your panties somewhere else-bitches...

If it were a Dem stealing a song from Ted Nugent-you guys'd be all over it like ugly on a dog.

frank55 - i'd love it if they'd steal a song from ted - he would also. think of the countering...

jackson browne should be thanking mccain otherwise many may have never even heard of him. think revival jackson. you need it.

It's theft. McCain didn't do it, but his people did.

If he wins the office of presidency because of these ads, he most certainly will have profited from the songs use.

And if the ads DON'T affect the race(which you'd say next) then they wouldn't exist.

I don't much care for Mr. Browne, but it's his song.

So naturally he will be supporting someone like himself.

Posted by rightisright

Isn't that the American way?

"Why are you guys SOOO pissed that Mr Browne exercised his PROPERTY RIGHTS to the song that McAsswipe tried to steal?"

For those of you that can't seem to read the article:

"McCain spokesman Brian Rogers claims the advert was not a product of the Republican presidential candidate's campaign...But Browne's action contends that the Ohio Republican party released the advert on behalf of McCain and the Republican National Committee."

To use a song in a commercial you have to obtain two separate licenses:

A "SYNC" license to use the "MASTER RECORDING' of the song

A "SYNC" license from the music publisher to use the song itself.

You have to pay a negotiated fee in both cases - usually they end up being the same amount.

McCain's ad guys didn't bother getting either one, thus the problem for them.

McCain's ad guys (who do the ad buys) should have checked to ensure licenses had been granted.

To fail to do so is a reckless move in that world

bb b b but, Au...they didn't make any money off the song, you silly little bitch. lol.

LOL Alex.

Doesn't matter. Licenses are required in any case....even "PSA's" - Public Service Announcements (which this spot wasn't).

Pinche Loaf is a dipshit.. McCain is certainly in a place to potentially make a profit from use of this song. Copyright is copyright, and it seems that neocons once again are showing their disdain for the rule of law.

AU and JSP show a clear understanding of the situation.

Pinche understands it, too. But because it's McCain, he's willing to let the old man slide where if it was Obama using a Wayne Newton song he'd be outraged.

Excuse me, I may have erred.

Is there such a thing as an original Wayne Newton song?

Dankeschon

Like all Liberals, Browne thinks it's all about him. Maybe he needs a life.

Posted by conrad_carter at 2008-08-15 09:04 PM | Repl

Like all Conservatives...McCain thinks is is GOD and can ignore the law.

Browne wrote and holds the copyright, why should McCain use it without permission or fees?

BECAUSE MCCAIN is not using the song to make money

Posted by judas at 2008-08-15 09:30 PM

An even dumber comment than the original one.

Can people really be this fucking stupid.

(Gee... I stole my neighbors car ... But I didn't steal it to make money )

Money Grubbing Repulicans write the laws and then whine when the laws are enforced.

READ THE COPY RIGHT LAWS ASSHOLES AND THEN TELL US JOHN McCAIN HAS A RIGHT TO USE JACKSON BROWNES SONG WITHOUT HIS WRITTEN PERMISSION.

ITS CAPITALISM AND THE AMERICAN WAY AND ITS ALL ABOUT MAKING MONEY !!! ARE REPUBLICANS NOW AGAINST PEOPLE MAKING A FEW BUCKS YOU HYPOCRIT ASSHOLES?

SO SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASSES !!!

She agreed to let him use it as long as the money which would normally go to her would instead to to PETA.
~OOHRAH

Oxycontin Rush supporting PETA, Brilliant!

He'd have to be on drugs to go for that!

No surprise here, puling hypocrite.

"She agreed to let him use it as long as the money which would normally go to her would instead to to PETA."

Rush sending money to PETA....now that's funny!

"He didn't make in money off of it."

I guess in that case sharing and downloading music, movies, software and whatever else should be legal too as long as there is no exchange of money involved.

I guess in that case sharing and downloading music, movies, software and whatever else should be legal too as long as there is no exchange of money involved.

Great Point, Newsworthy..

I think politicians should choose music from musicians that share their views. That would probably limit Republican choices but that's life.
I think it would be an interesting contrast between the parties.

To use a song in a commercial you have to obtain two separate licenses:
A "SYNC" license to use the "MASTER RECORDING' of the song
A "SYNC" license from the music publisher to use the song itself.
You have to pay a negotiated fee in both cases - usually they end up being the same amount.
McCain's ad guys didn't bother getting either one, thus the problem for them.
Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Very true.

Thinking about it now, McCain must really feel like he IS "Running On Empty."
Ha ha.

"Waaaaahh... I'm Jackson Browne"

Keep it up, this probably helps McCain because people in general hate whining..

Sort of like the vapid attacks on Freddoso for daring to write a book that exposes some of His Holiness Obama's rather questionable past..

Keep it up.. hey Browne, 'let me introduce you to my rednecked friend'.. oooops... copyright violation.. help!

NMG

Any artist/record label who discover their songs and/or recordings of songs used in TV commercials have every right to sue. There are clear laws and protocol that must be followed. Whoever put together this McCain spot knew that very well. As regional as the use for the spot was it wouldn't have been an astronomical fee. No excuse. Everyone in the biz knows the rules. They tried circumventing them and got caught. Case closed.

Thought I'd explain the difference in the Chrissie Hynde/Rush situation:

Radio play works differently. If the song has been released to radio, as hers was, anyone can play the song. But, it is the responsibility of Rush's producers to make sure it's logged so royalties can be paid, as OohRah talked about earlier.

browne is a fucking tool. Has not had a hit in over 2 decades. Loser

"Has not had a hit in over 2 decades."

And that's a good reason to steal from him?!?

He's a Dem-that's the only excuse they need-it makes 'em feel justified.

RET

Browne's a 'loser' with a 600 acre ranch in Santa Barbara. A 'loser' who owns the copyright on the song in question. A 'loser' who still makes $2 million a year in royalties without lifting a finger. The song for which a simple couple of licenses attained by McCain's ad buyers would have averted this.

Oh, I forgot about the 500 acres he also owns at Hollister Ranch.

I think politicians should choose music from musicians that share their views. That would probably limit Republican choices but that's life.
I think it would be an interesting contrast between the parties.

Posted by danni at 2008-08-16 09:11 AM

danni, once again.. put down the bong.... you kill me......

au,
michael jacson owns a ranch in SB also..... what's your point?

au,

I am sure Bush and Cheney have bigger land holdings than browne. I would bet they have more money also.

What is your point here?

You're calling Browne a 'loser'. I'm pointing out that he's a zillion times richer and more successful that the one calling him a 'loser'.

I also doubt you have any idea how much money someone who's done multiple arena tours is worth.

Betcha Browne is richer than Bush and Cheney put together.

Browne better watch his back because the McCainiacs are on the warpath.

doubt it

He is still a fucking loser

I wouldn't doubt it RET

I'm in the biz. One friend of mine had 4 pop hits and made over $50,000,000 in 4 years between touring, merchandising, and performance royalties.

Arena tours and all the merchandising (T-shirts, etc) are cash cows. Royalties from radio and TV performances can easily total multimillions for a hit.

Browne's continued touring - making in excess of $100,000 a night 20 years after his last hit. Additionally, 'Running On Empty' has been used in multiple TV commercial campaigns over the years, each campaign netting millions.

I'm giving you an educated opinion.

In the biz?? you wok at a record store????

He is still a fucking loser

Posted by retnluvnit at 2008-08-16 12:53 PM | Reply |

Christ, what does that make you, you senile old fuck? Don't you have a sandtrap to go triple bogey in while you rage against youth?

In the biz?? you wok at a record store????

Not hardly....

from the link:
"Robert Bennett, chairman of the Ohio Republican party, called the legal action a "big to-do about nothing".

Actually, copyright infringement on a national ad IS a big deal, and the McCain campaign will eventually settle out of court for a sizable figure.

Jesus, Retnluvinit, have you gone off your Lithium again? You should calm down a bit...you've been channeling 101Chairborne too much lately!

Poor Jackson's brain is running on empty. He probably just needs a drink from the ol' fountain of sorrow.

McCain will just give Jackson the $75K so he can go pay for another botched facelift. On the bright side, Browne finally got in the news after over 2 decades of being long forgotten.

You have Michael Jackson and Jackson Browne confused, NAPPY HEADED HO

American-
Well, they all look alike to a white guy who would actually post under the handle "nappyheadedho"....

oor Jackson's brain is running on empty. He probably just needs a drink from the ol' fountain of sorrow.

Perhaps, but nearly as much as McSame needs a dip in the fountain of youth.

BECAUSE MCCAIN is not using the song to make money

Posted by judas at 2008-08-15 09:30 PM

well, what's he using it for, then?

John McCain will just have to choose his music from the list of right wing artists. Please don't tell me righties that your persuasion can't provide the songs that campaigns want??? I'd think it would be a point of honor (oops I forgot I was talking about Republicans) to be able to say that the artist agrees with the person who is using their "art" to emphasize a point or create an emotion. I believe that the quality of the art is indicative of the quality of the thought among people who hold similar views. Inferior art...inferior thought.

to be able to say that the artist agrees with the person who is using their "art" to emphasize a point or create an emotion

So being the consistent and non-hypocritical person you are, Danni *cough, cough* I presume you think that this artist who is using dead soldiers' names in his art against the family's wishes or the wishes of the soldier is wrong too, correct? I mean this artist/layman relationship works both ways in your eyes, right?

Inferior art...inferior thought.

Who is to say what is inferior?

Inferior art...inferior thought.

Pretty elitist of you danni. I am sure you know what is best for us all.

I can't wait for his new show McCain's Navy.

Very Funny, I love it

"Pretty elitist of you danni. I am sure you know what is best for us all."

Not elitist at all, I just wonder why right wing guys like McBush can't choose his music from a catalog of right wing artists??? I suspect it is because of the inferiority of the music produced by right wing artists which is an indication of the lack of freedom of thought that creativity requires but that right wingers demand.

browne is a fucking tool. Has not had a hit in over 2 decades. Loser

Posted by retnluvnit at 2008-08-16 11:07 AM

Jackson Brownwe is 60 years old asshole. Like people at the end of their careers still write a lot of hit songs.

I saw Jackson Browne in 1973...He packed em in and did for years

Why don't you rip on a real Republican loser like comedian Dennis Miller who is pathetically unfunny would suck George W Bush's Wee-Wee anytime Bush asked him to??

What does a GREAT comedian like Dennis Miller have to do with a has-been singer? Nice try at deflection boy.

Why do you bring a homosexual act into this thread. Is that your persuasion?

you don't like his political views so you call him a "has-been singer", typical retort for a right wing asshole who is not a has been because he never was!

he has 18 concerts scheduled so far for this year, very view tickets still available (those availble are mostly $145)

not bad for a retired has been!

doubt it

He is still a fucking loser

Posted by retnrubnit

Isn't there a Matlock marathon on TV Land today?

right wingers sure have a lot of hate to share! it must be hard going through life surrounded by a bunch of losers.

right wingers sure have a lot of hate to share!

onna, you don't have to look very hard to see that there is plenty of hate on both sides of the political spectrum.

onna, you don't have to look very hard to see that there is plenty of hate on both sides of the political spectrum.

possible, but hating a singer that did nothing to retnrubnit is a stretch. no need to call him "a fucking loser", is there? I don't really care for Browne's music, I am a fan of classical music plus jazz (I love Beethoven's 9th, just saw it performed live for the 12th time) Browne protecting his rights is important, if he didn't anyone can download his music free without worry. and that is not right, I did a short stint with Disney years ago and found they are extremmely strict on this, very touchy.

I love Beethoven's 9th

The second movement has to be the most beautifully written score ever. However, after I saw "A Clockwork Orange" I can never listen to it in the same manner again unfortunately.

GOAT

I saw the Detroit Symphony perform the 9th the last day of my trip to Michigan in May.

Absolutely beautiful.

If you've never heard Mahler's orchestration (of course HUGE orchestra) I recommend your picking up a CD of it.

If you've never heard Mahler's orchestration (of course HUGE orchestra) I recommend your picking up a CD of it.

Thanks for the tip. I'm going to do just that.

Ironically, My least favorite movement is the general public's favorite, the Ode to Joy.

Mahler's orchestration is akin to Spinal Tap's "most people's amps only go to 10. Ours go to 11. That's one more innit?"

Mahler's orchestration is akin to Spinal Tap's...

As long as they didn't rename it "Lick my Love Pump". LOL

Smell The Glove (of the triangle player)

**** "Has not had a hit in over 2 decades."

And that's a good reason to steal from him?!?

Posted by Danforth ****

......of course......you kick a man when he's down..

....it's the Republican way.....

......of course......you kick a man when he's down..

....it's the Republican way.....

LOL The ultimate in hypocrisy. No one has ever been down lower than Bush is now, yet you libs on the DR keep kicking him harder than ever.

I'd say it's actually the Democratic way if the DR is any indication.

(here comes the 'but Bush is different' retort. I feel it. LOL)

No one has ever been down lower than Bush is now, yet you libs on the DR keep kicking him harder than ever.

Sorry I must have missed it, when did he resign and lose his ability to screw up?

**** LOL The ultimate in hypocrisy. No one has ever been down lower than Bush is now, yet you libs on the DR keep kicking him harder than ever.
..Posted by goatman ****

.......he hasn't hit rock bottom yet........

.......remember........

......he still has to go on trial for that trumped up war that killed hundreds of thousands........

Sorry I must have missed it, when did he resign and lose his ability to screw up?

???

What does this have to do with kicking a man when he's down -- something that skizziks relegates exclusively to the domain of the republicans?

Weak deflection, zap -- very weak

......he hasn't hit rock bottom yet........

Again, exactly what does this have to do with kicking a man when he's down?

You and zap need to work on your deflection skills.

.....of course......you kick a man when he's down..

....it's the Republican way.....

Posted by skizziks at 2008-08-17 08:46 PM

What does this have to do with kicking a man when he's down --

Weak deflection, zap -- very weak
~Goat

LOL Let me know when he can't make ultimate decisions that affect the country.

LOL Let me know when he can't make ultimate decisions that affect the country.

And the answer to my question "What does this have to do with kicking a man when he's down vis-a-vis skizziks post" is . . .?

.....of course......you kick a man when he's down..

....it's the Republican way.....

Posted by skizziks at 2008-08-17 08:46 PM

Goat you confuse us for the same intently.

Bush needs notice his way is not accepted across the board in America. Understanding of course, even when he is stepping on his own balls he could care less.

Bush needs notice his way is not accepted across the board in America. Understanding of course, even when he is stepping on his own balls he could care less.

Yes, I understand that and I agree with the statement. But I still wonder what this has to do with kicking a man when he's down vis-a-vis skizziks post.

It's clear you don't want to answer. That screams, "I am a sheeple and I don't want to betray a fellow flock member by admitting that he was hypocritical in his post."

That's cool. Though I'm not a sheeple, I do understand y'all's mindset. Have some koolaid.

.....of course......you kick a man when he's down..

....it's the Republican way.....

Posted by skizziks at 2008-08-17 08:46 PM

.....of course......you kick a man when he's down..
....it's the Republican way.....
Posted by skizziks at 2008-08-17 08:46 PM

Sorry where doe it say Zap here?

LOL democrats in case you've missed it have different POV's.

It's a Actual Big Tent thing..

Sorry where doe it say Zap here?

LOL democrats in case you've missed it have different POV's.

It appeared to me in your 9:04 you were explaining skizziks' position and hypocrisy and agreeing with his POV. I guess you are telling me now you weren't.

My bad.

I won't even try to guess whay you really meant in your 9:04. Deciphering some of these posts on the DR requires leaps of logic and imagination I am not able to obtain. I take words at face value.