Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Thursday, August 14, 2008

The U.S. Census Bureau projects that by the year 2042, minorities will be the country's majority population.

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good, then the shoe will be on the other foot. ha!

The whites will still be in the majority. Don't worry though, the powers that be have a plan.

And it involves some serious population control. Most of them are advocating an 80% drop in population within 100 years.

Damn, I just noticed my typo. That's what happens when you post articles before you have had your coffee.

We've been the minority on the planet since day 1.

Pay attention.

God, this story should cause Cookedfish's head to explode.

So........ Will I get special treatment then?

So we're gonna have 439 million idiots crowding up the place by 2050?

OMG! I am going to throw up. It's already crowded enought and were gonna have almost hafl a billion people running around?

About two or three weeks ago they had the author of the Population Bomb on NPR on one of those call in shows. One of the topics brought up was that people with children get tax breaks instead of paying more taxes, after all, they require more government services right?

We need to stop paying people to have children, no more tax breaks and child support only for married people. And abortions should be safe, legal and frequent.

Then when I only vote for the White guy, I can be the "consciencious voter" and not the "racist."

Census: Whites Will Be Minority by 2042

"This is horrible news. Thank God I am an old fart and will be long gone by then. If we had been allowed to do our work, this would never be happenning." -- Democrat Senator from West Virginia Rober Byrd, former Klansman

Does that mean whites will get affirmative action then?

"...and child support only for married people"

Good luck running on that platform.

Oh Lawdy!!! All us poor white folks have something else to scare us.

And we get guys like McSame importing colored girls. Or, since he's her daddy, halfistani girls. But think of all the lettuce Americans will be picking!

George W Bush

Goodbye high rise, hello corn field.

Hope my pecker is still working then... I plan to do a lot of rapin'

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-08-14 11:49 AM | Reply

I don't think rape is necessary. Apparently these minorities do a lot of fucking as is evidenced by the stats.

And we get guys like McSame importing colored girls. Or, since he's her daddy, halfistani girls. But think of all the lettuce Americans will be picking!

George W Bush

Posted by northguy3 at 2008-08-14 11:50 AM

LOL Just as I said. . .

www.drudge.com

"Does that mean whites will get affirmative action then?"

No. Whites will continue to be more productive and less criminal than other races, and will continue to be punished for doing so.

Hope my pecker is still working then... I plan to do a lot of rapin'

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Well, it will be 2050, I am sure a lot of scientific miracles will have happen. I am sure penis surgery and all kinds of treatments will be more advanced.

I hope you're right Joe. I'm not a very good shot with a handgun, and hate mowing lawn.

Goat-you want some cheese with that whine?

I was thinking about the Russia/Georgia conflict the other day and was wondering if in the future something like that could happen in America. I mean, a lot of radicalized hispanics in the southwest belive there are no borders, that that land belongs to Mexico. What if they want to be autonomus or want to join Mexico?!

Well, I guess we'll finally get to bomb Mexico. Maybe it will happen 200 years after the Mexican War in the 1840's.

I expect, if there's still a GOP then, they'll just lower the bar defining "white" so they can continue to be the party of wrinkly old "white" guys, to run for President. Lebron James ought to be old enough and rich enough by then.

Looks like it's time for the gub'ment scientists to invent something to replace the crack cocaine and AIDS that they invented and unleashed on the ghettos back in the '80's.... .... Poison refried beans?

Goat-you want some cheese with that whine?

It sounds you're the whiner. Can't stand to be a predictible foregone conclusion can you? LOL If you had a brain, you wouldn't be.

As for cheese with whine? Wow. That is so clever. I remember when I first heard that 45 years ago I was really impressed. But of course I was in 3rd grade then . . .

Originality isn't your strong suit is it, ng3? Turn any thread into a 'righty tightie' rant or drag up some sophomoric shoolyard taunt from your childhood seems to be the best you can do.

I expect, if there's still a GOP then, they'll just lower the bar defining "white" so they can continue to be the party of wrinkly old "white" guys,

So will there be the Congressional White Caucus? We all know how many repubs are in the inclusive Congressional Black Caucus.

Meh. As long as we retain our talent for turning other ethnic groups against each other we'll stay on top.

Then when I only vote for the White guy, I can be the "consciencious voter" and not the "racist."

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

No, Rob you will still be the "A-Hole". White's will still be the largest minority in the states for some time after that point. After that fact white's will control the levers of power some time to come. Re: Money, Education plus whitey is great at playing all the other minority groups against each other... Not saying, just saying...

LOL oorah

"No. Whites will continue to be more productive and less criminal than other races, and will continue to be punished for doing so.

Posted by JOE at 2008-08-14 11:55 AM | "

What a lot of racist horseshit. Poor little oppressed Joe, what a great disadvantage you have in being born white.

Oh, no. The end of country music as we know it!

Thank God!

Just accept that the Hispanics will become the majority - live with it (and learn Spanish):)

Instead of Pimp my Ride and Cribs on TV... there will be "Ethnic" shows on TV then called, "Pay your bills," and "Show up for work on time."

the good news is there will be enough young people
paying into social security to save the system and
less illegals to fuss with.

Null Set, it's no secret that our laws favor minorities and that they will continue to long after minorities surpass the supposedly "advantaged" white people in numbers.

We need to stop paying people to have children, no more tax breaks and child support only for married people. And abortions should be safe, legal and frequent.

Posted by member2586

Too bad your parents did not feel the same way! Why don't you get the population control going by yourself - quit being so selfish as taking up the space of a productive human being.

", it's no secret that our laws favor minorities and that they will continue to long after minorities surpass the supposedly "advantaged" white people in numbers.

Posted by JOE"

So, if you had a choice, you would prefer to be born black in America, so you could take advantage of all that "favoritism," right?

Hooray!!!! Then we can have a leader like Robert Mugabe! The fruits of our Lib Socialists will be realized! Oh happy day!!!!

NASCAR's in deep shit.

"Just accept that the Hispanics will become the majority - live with it (and learn Spanish):)"

Even in 2042 whites will outnumber hispanics. We just won't out number all minorities added together.

2042. Tiger Woods should start receiving part of his billion dollar pension. Of course he will parlay that to be POTUS. Hell he would cover most of the various ethnic voting blocks based on his multi race.


So........ Will I get special treatment then?

Posted by Sniper

I hope for your sake that you don't get the "special treatment" that minorities have gotten in this country.

What if they want to be autonomus or want to join Mexico?!

They'd need a superpower nearby to back them up. Ask kosovo or Ossetia.
###
So will there be the Congressional White Caucus? We all know how many repubs are in the inclusive Congressional Black Caucus.

Posted by crispee_oc
The CWC is aka the GOP. Every black Republican congressman is in the CBC. You just can't see them because there are no black Republican congressmen. Or Senators. Or Governors.
The last elected GOPper black, JC watts, wasn't allowed out of the back of the bus.

I'm an old bastard, too. However, it's nice to know my grand kids will be eligible for free medical, housing, affirmative action, etc. Wonder what the white rappers will be like then.....

"So, if you had a choice, you would prefer to be born black in America, so you could take advantage of all that "favoritism," right?"

No, because I happen to be proud of my own heritage. My potential unwillingness to "trade" my ethnicity doesn't negate the existence of favoritism in our society, and it also doesn't preclude me from pointing it out. That's just another red herring from Null Set.

So fucking what.

It is interesting thought to see all the racist knee-jerk reactions from the usual suspects.

On the up side, that narrowed, racist, retrograde view that white americans have on race relations is destined to disappear.

NASCAR's in deep shit.

Posted by Whatsleft

So is the Cotton Industry.

Will cockfighting replace Hockey?


I'm an old bastard, too. However, it's nice to know my grand kids will be eligible for free medical, housing, affirmative action, etc. Wonder what the white rappers will be like then.....

Posted by BiggieDan

Wow Dan, got any info on how minorities get free medical and housing that's not available to whites?
Or are you just full of shit?

The CWC is aka the GOP. Every black Republican congressman is in the CBC. You just can't see them because there are no black Republican congressmen. Or Senators. Or Governors.
The last elected GOPper black, JC watts, wasn't allowed out of the back of the bus.

Pretty damn impressive Northy. To bad your Olympic team wasn't as quick as your wit.

Pretty damn impressive Northy. To bad your Olympic team wasn't as quick as your wit.

Posted by crispee_oc

Completely unimpressive.

Walgreens celebrates Black History month

"On the up side, that narrowed, racist, retrograde view that white americans have on race relations is destined to disappear."

But not whites in Canda, right?

LOL.

Completely unimpressive.

Posted by RastaCyborg

Yet you couldn't fathom Biggie's sarcasm?

"No, because I happen to be proud of my own heritage. "

That's not the question. Would you prefer to being born with the so-called "advantages" of being black or the so-called "punishment" of being born white?

I love 'racist' ideology. It is so schizoid.

On the one hand, they're so proud of their 'whiteness'

On the other hand they worship a sand-rat jew named Jesus.

...and on the third hand...

We 'supposedly' all come from "Adam and Eve" who certainly were NOT white...right?

Now that's truly White Christian Mis-Identity

Racism is an argument for morons of any color!

Well, irresponsible breeding where you pop out 12 kids you can't afford just to prove what a "man" you are would tend to accelerate the population of certain cultures.

Those of us who keep it in our pants, think about financial suitability, etc don't spew out as many kids, if any.

This is a no brainer.

(on this note, see the Movie "Idiocracy")

"No, because I happen to be proud of my own heritage. "

"We frown on that in this country, white people should not be proud of their heritage. In fact, it scares out sensibilities when the word heritage is used." -- The Left

"Would you prefer to being born with the so-called "advantages" of being black or the so-called "punishment" of being born white?"

I suppose if the only positive or negative attribute in being a certain race was whether you were given favorable treatment by society, then I'd prefer to be black. But even someone as stupid as you knows that that isn't the only aspect to be taken into consideration when deciding whether you'd "trade" your ethnicity. And the fact that some might not be willing to do it doesn't negate the existence of favoritism.

Of course news like this wouldn't initiate an honest, mature discussion about race and co-existence.

And to all the people who claim that racism doesn't exist and that being of another skin color or from another race is a grand old time of benefits, you're wrong. Simple as that. Race relations are so convoluted in this country that everyone seems to be blind to their own offenses and refuses to just look past skin color, and not just white people either. I'm Latino but half German, and on top of that was born outside the U.S. Trust me, I've seen a lot of sides of the racism here and when you look at things from different sides, you realize how stupid the whole issue is here. The people who throw tantrums over perceived "racism" are the worst of the lot too.

Whatever.

No. Whites will continue to be more productive and less criminal than other races, and will continue to be punished for doing so.

Posted by JOE at 2008-08-14 11:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

You feel punished that you're not pulled over by police 'just because'?

You feel punished that old ladies don't clutch their purse tighter when you walk by?

The majority of minorities who achieve high levels of success outside of sports and entertainment and race-baiting-non-profits are those who adapt the mannerisms and culture and general outlook of the traditional American. Call that "going white", or "Uncle Tom", or Euro culture, or whatever you want, but no matter what the racial mix ends up being in this country, I don't see that changing quite as quickly as the mix itself. And this isn't a case of folks so-called "passing".. it's just common sense business and politics.

I've observed the transition in political control in some areas, both to black and Latino politicians, and if performance to date provides any guideline, then the expectation of "fair" treatment is unreasonable.

Preoccupation with fairness seems to be a consideration peculiar to whites. I've seen a group that gained political control of a city tell a petitioner in vulgar terms that they, the Latinos, were now in control, and that if the petitioner expected anything, then he was wrong, and should just bug out. It was very crass. There was not even a pretext at "justice."

So prepare yourselves for emergence of a third world mentality being in operative control. This corruption puts a heavy burden on any activity and makes attainment of any goal far more inefficient and expensive. Down. Down. Down.

The demographic transition bodes ill for the well-being of the population.

Maybe we can eventually end up with the Bolivian model, where the indigenous peoples are in the process of dismantling the society and are blithely unaware of the consequences to themselves.

Societies are composed of the people in them. If the ascendancy in numbers of non-whites continues, it will be a descent into the malestrom with America deteriorating into the status of such third world countries as that in which what will be the new plurality, govern and determine the nature of their societies. These third world people can only thrive in a matrix created by first world whites.

This kind of reminds me of a time on the dave chapel show. That one episode where a black man thought he was a white man. That white man was part of the KKK. Because he was blind he had no idea he was a black man.

anyway as long as i get my affirmative action and special treatment i'm a'ok with that. Oh i also want to use the N word too. the niger word but with an extra G so i can sound cool too. Oh i also want to be able to make fun of Asians, Hispanics, black people etc as well without being called a racist. Just a comedian trying to make it in the majority minority world.

"On the up side, that narrowed, racist, retrograde view that white americans have on race relations is destined to disappear."

But not whites in Canda, right?

LOL.

Posted by Sully at 2008-08-14 12:54 PM | Reply |

Touchy, touchy. I did say white americans as opposed to a white u.s. male POV. I'm a white american... but don't tell rob, he'll have a shit and go down the path of a semantic debate.

That being said, your country's history is a little more steeped in racism than mine. Not a judgment, just a fact.

I hope for your sake that you don't get the "special treatment" that minorities have gotten in this country.

Posted by RastaCyborg

You don't want me to get into a college with sub-standard grades?

You don't want me to get free health care in the ER room at the expense of the people that are willing to work?

You don't want me to get a tax rebate when I didn't pay any taxes?

You don't want me to go to the front of the employment line because of my skin color?

Which ones don't you want me to have?

You don't want me to get into a college with sub-standard grades? UNLESS YOUR NAME IS BUSH

You don't want me to get free health care in the ER room at the expense of the people that are willing to work? UNLESS YOU'RE A SENATOR FROM ARIZONA> THEN YOU GET ALL THE FREE MEDICAL CARE YOU WANT

You don't want me to get a tax rebate when I didn't pay any taxes? JUST AS LONG AS YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY TAXES ON THAT 100 MILLION DADDY GIVES YOU

You don't want me to go to the front of the employment line because of my skin color? EXCEPT IN THE TANG OR NAVAL ACADEMY

Why don't we just pass a law that says white women can no longer have abortions (assuming the father is white, and proof will be required that the father is white), and all other races are limited to one child per woman (but we will end up putting them all in prison anyway)?

Sincerely,

Knee-Jerk and the Ghost of Hitler

That being said, your country's history is a little more steeped in racism than mine. Not a judgment, just a fact.

Pancho, not sure if you are from Canada, but part of the explanation may stem from the fact that America had an economy and a growing agricultural base that lent itself to slave labor (e.g. tobacco, cotton), as opposed to the Canadian economy (lumber, beaver pelts). So in order to meet economic demands, we farched our sociial structure for 200 years and we still pay for it.

What is notable is that skin color may be less of a factor than upbringing, as studies have shown that blacks who emigrate here from Africa and West Inides, etc, usually enter the middle class or enter the middle class within one generation, while domestically born blacks languish in poverty for generations. A lot of this has to do with family cohesiveness, the importance of education within the native culture of the emigrees, and, one can assume, just overall motivation.

nor, you have turned this into a pile of shit! Hou haven't even addressed what the minorities get in our PC society now.

That being said, your country's history is a little more steeped in racism than mine. Not a judgment, just a fact.

Posted by panchovilla

Assuming from your handle your country is Mexico:

"It turns out that racism in Mexico, both against blacks and dark-skinned indigenous Indians, has a long history. Mexico's colonial past has left its mark on modern-day society. Prejudice toward "pureblood" Indians from those who are "mixed-blood" (Spanish and Indian) is rife. Almost uniformly, people who are darker-skinned and of Indian descent make up the peasantry and working classes, while lighter-skinned, Spanish-descent Mexicans are in the ruling elite."

Source:

www.sfgate.com

CommonDense, I was referring mostly to activities in academia and the workplace - you know, favoritism that is set in writing by laws and internal policies. Things you can prove.

Sniper-you'll still get all those communistic bennies you claim to oppose, you'll just have to fill out the applications in espanol, amigo...

Sniper-you'll still get all those communistic bennies you claim to oppose, you'll just have to fill out the applications in espanol, amigo...

Posted by northguy3

Do you realy think the present minorities will make enough money to support all us whities? You are a dreamer.

I'll fill out the forms in spanish and eat my beans while I freeze in the dark in some mud shack.

Maybe we should go back to the Jim Crow laws and reinstitute random lynchings.

All in favor....

The preference programs for non-whites are essential to maintain some sort of parity in our society. We are operating in an environment, where certain abilities are more likely to confer successful functioning.

This is not necessarily a racial thing, but is due to differences in evoltuionary development. Take two population groups, pygmies and Maasai. Then set up a game with rules. How about either beach volleyball, or basketball. Choose teams from each of the populations. I'd wager that the better teams would be chosen from among the Maasai because of the rules of the game favoring tall people.

In the same way, we have crafted a society where certain attributes are favored. Some groups have evolved under circumstances which did not require development of certain characteristics, so because of mutation and adaptation, these characteristcs are not distributed as frequently in some populations as in others, nor are the extremes reached.

We recognize the differentiation in physical characteristics based on genomic differences. Yet, despite evidentiary data, we deny that such differences can exist insofar as other matters such as abstract intelligence or a proclivity toward anti-social behavior can occur. It is somewhat akin to the discarded belief that germ cells were insulated by the environment and could not be affected by it.

Anyway, we have brought together in our society, people with evolutionarily determined differentiated abilities. And the utility of these skills is determined by the societal milieu. The attributes are not uniformly distributed among various races and ethnicities. The ability of a society to function at a particular technological level can be adversely affected by a paucity of certain skills, which a requisite level of intelligence may be necessary to enable them to be acquired.

Since exclusion based on actual abilities would foment additional conflict, we require preference programs to integrate people from groups which cannot perform at par.

But with the predicted demographic transformation, the consequence will be a trend downward insofar as abilities to sustain a scientifically and technologically based society is concerned, will be lacking. So with a profusion of non-whites, the society and among other things, the standard of living will inevitably decline. Fortunately, the introduction of some agents will buffer the whites to some small extent. But despair as to the future of this country as the demographics determine our direction.

Do you realy think the present minorities will make enough money to support all us whities? You are a dreamer.

Posted by Diaper

HA HA HA!! Like your ass isn't supported by the cheap labor minorities provide right now.
They pick the fruit.
They process the meat.
They clean the floors.
They build the buildings.
They cut the grass.

God, this story should cause Cookedfish's head to explode.

Actually, I can't wait to be professional victim and finger-pointer. I'm tired of getting all the good jobs, women and opportunities because I have a brain and work hard. What the hell have I been thinking? And where's my fucking check, Uncle Sam, for this future displacement of a vanishing breed of people?

Johnson's posts are fucking ponderous.

"Johnson's posts are fucking ponderous.

Posted by LeeAtwater"

And ponderously fucked.

But with the predicted demographic transformation, the consequence will be a trend downward insofar as abilities to sustain a scientifically and technologically based society is concerned, will be lacking. So with a profusion of non-whites, the society and among other things, the standard of living will inevitably decline. Fortunately, the introduction of some agents will buffer the whites to some small extent. But despair as to the future of this country as the demographics determine our direction.

Posted by Johnson

More Ayn Randian bullshit. Look on the bright side Johnson; serial killings will go down because white males are more likely to kill females due to evolutionary trends, right?

"""Pancho, not sure if you are from Canada, but part of the explanation may stem from the fact that America had an economy and a growing agricultural base that lent itself to slave labor (e.g. tobacco, cotton), as opposed to the Canadian economy (lumber, beaver pelts). """

Interesting point. Though many farmers in the prairies or fishermen out east might have made good use of slave labor. Even lumber for that fact...so I'm not so sure I buy that line of reasoning. What I do know is that canada was the safe haven for slaves and that the social fabric today is in great part due to that history. Oddly enough, up here, it's the recently arrived immigrants that seem to ghetto-ize themselves and edge towards criminality.

"""A lot of this has to do with family cohesiveness, the importance of education within the native culture of the emigrees, and, one can assume, just overall motivation."""

Yeah, a lot of ink has flowed on this one. Is it the lasting effect of several generations of slavery? It it the type of immigrant that is allowed in the country and their point of origin? In other words, either the immigrant already comes from the middle class, or, if from a destitute country or social context, cannot believe the opportunity offered to them when they land in the u.s. as opposed to african-americans feeling that something is "owed" to them? I don't know. What I do know is that both people from the right and left are quick to fall into an explanation of the situation that fits their ideology, even when the logic is tenuous at best.

What the hell have I been thinking? And where's my fucking check, Uncle Sam, for this future displacement of a vanishing breed of people?

Posted by cookfish

Hey Fish, nothing's stopping you from living the life of luxury on welfare right now. Why don't you quit your job and live the high life on welfare?
Oh yeah, because you're better than "those" people because you have pride.

"""Assuming from your handle your country is Mexico:"""

It is misleading, but i didn't like nanook.

Rasta,

You know you could offer up your own rebuttal to Johnson's post in lieu of attributing his post to a person (Any Rand) whom is universally despised among the Left.

What about Gordie?

I always hatred "those" people anyfuckingway, so that was never an issue for me.
One man's ceiling is another man's floor.

"I always expressed hatred" Ha!

Any = Ayn

Rasta,

You know you could offer up your own rebuttal to Johnson's post in lieu of attributing his post to a person (Any Rand) whom is universally despised among the Left.

Posted by JeffJ

Everything Johnson implies about minorities can be applied to everyone on the planet. Pseudo scientific Randian nonsense.

AMC Movie Theatres' stock just crashed to 0.01


I always hatred "those" people anyfuckingway, so that was never an issue for me.
One man's ceiling is another man's floor.

Posted by cookfish

What are you mumbling about?

Posted by RastaCyborg at 2008-08-14 02:05PM

More Ayn Randian bullshit.
Right. The reasons some countries have been unable to life themselves up and others have prospered, such as Asian countries, are the capabilities of the populations.

Is dismissiveness all you've got in your armamentarium? Seems so.

Look on the bright side Johnson; serial killings will go down because white males are more likely to kill females due to evolutionary trends, right?

Sorry Rasta, I don't follow this one. You may not require interpretation for others to comprehend, but it requires explication for me.

What evolutionary factors would make white males more likely to kill females?

Mrs. Butterworth will replace the stars on our flag...

Trojan just announced they're cutting their production force in anticipation of the slow down.

Fat blonde white girls are scrambling for a new way to "get back at Dad."

Jail breaks off and becomes it's own country.

101 Wins... I bow to the master...

Holy shit that's funny...

LL Beaner overtakes WalMart as the largest retailer.

We better get our story straight...we had a space ship and no, we don't know anything about the fucking forbidden zone.

Now all restaraunts are Taco Bell

Demolition Man rules...

later all...

Don't worry...

Happy Extinction

ZAT

"Touchy, touchy. I did say white americans as opposed to a white u.s. male POV. I'm a white american... but don't tell rob, he'll have a shit and go down the path of a semantic debate."

Not this again. The people who want to claim "American" for all North and South Americans are a minority. I've been to Mexico and Canada (as well as many other countries) and they all called me American as in a person from the US. I wouldn't care other than the fact that its confusing and United Statesian is long and sounds stupid.

"That being said, your country's history is a little more steeped in racism than mine. Not a judgment, just a fact."

I had maybe one grandparent who was born in the US so I didn't inherit anything earned off slave labor.

People like to talk about how the US is so racist but in reality, we aren't too bad. Just about all and South and Central America and Asia are much more racist than we are, for example.

I'm a member of the largest race of people on the entire planet....THE HUMAN RACE. Funny how many of you place yourselves in "select" groups within this race.

I'm a member of the largest race of people on the entire planet....THE HUMAN RACE. Funny how many of you place yourselves in "select" groups within this race.

Posted by ride_on at 2008-08-14 02:43 PM | Reply |

You're sounding dangerously left in that post ride on.

I've never heard anyone from the left make that statement Pancho....they seem to be obsessed with classifications.

"they all called me American as in a person from the US."

I'd rather be a Vespucian!

I've never heard anyone from the left make that statement Pancho....they seem to be obsessed with classifications.

Posted by ride_on at 2008-08-14 02:47 PM |

Not to start a meaningless debate, but from my experience, certain tenets of far right ideology is often associated with racism, with exclusion of others...more so than extreme left I believe.

"Not to start a meaningless debate, but from my experience, certain tenets of far right ideology is often associated with racism, with exclusion of others...more so than extreme left I believe."

Naw, once you go to either extreme they are both racist. Its just that one is unapologetically racist and the other is more of a patronizing form of racism.

Maye we'll be able to get them to reinstate Equal Opportunity allocations again! Quota's for coleges, jobs, Health Care, just about everything, you think? Get them to treat us all the same? NAW!

Will the Feds prosecute the majority for Civil Right Violation, as is the procedure currently? Can we count on set asides for our kids, and reimbursement for PAST slights to their parents (us), and families? Can we black-mail (white-mail) major corporations, for past actions against our anncestors (sp), because we need extra money, or would we actually need a reason?

People are naturally afraid of difference, between themselves and others, of customs, of color, of attitudes, of just about everything, after all, it's NOT the way I was raised!

Some call it prejudice, others call it misinformed! One will get you attention, the other educated! It's dealers choice! Build in-bred resentment, or educated acceptance, the picture, so far, is clear which direction we've chosen! Embarrassment, humiliation, degradation all for the receipt of MONEY on a regular basis! Who new!?!

...and then maybe we can put chains around their necks, put them on boats against their will and sell them to Al Qauda.

Sike, I'm just kidding. Lookign to ad shock value to the board.

"Not to start a meaningless debate, but from my experience, certain tenets of far right ideology is often associated with racism, with exclusion of others...more so than extreme left I believe."

Naw, once you go to either extreme they are both racist. Its just that one is unapologetically racist and the other is more of a patronizing form of racism.

Posted by Sully at 2008-08-14 03:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sully, I believe that what you have stated is very often the case (sadly so---but, well stated).

Ayn Rand, the same arrogant loon who felt that all that disagreed with her were not honorable - talk about elitist. Maybe that is where Bush got that your either with us or against us mentality. She put herself on a pedestal and felt she could talk down to anyone - especially if they expressed faith.

should be who not "that"

So, if you had a choice, you would prefer to be born black in America, so you could take advantage of all that "favoritism," right?

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-08-14 12:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

In a heartbeat. With my IQ (tests between 146 and 152 consistently) I'd have graduated med school a few years ago. Much better then struggling my ass off at 30 trying to save some money for college; having been left in some bizarre limbo till the age of 25 because my parents made too much money. It never occurred to anyone setting up financial aid that not everyone's parents give a fuck about them, and hey; last I checked 18 was the age of adulthood, not 25. My parents were old fashioned. They gave me fifty bucks, an old car, and said "Good luck!" on my birthday; then they changed the locks. (Then the previously mentioned identity theft crap. *mutters* But that's just bad luck; could happen to anybody.)

..back from the side tangent.. And by 25, if you haven't already gone to college, it's hard to get there. At least in an economically depressed area like Kalispell. I'd trade my ethnicity in a second, frankly. I could deal with being called a nigger, having to be extra careful around cops, and watching people cross to the other side of the street if it had gotten me into college.

Kalispell

Hell, man---up there you should've been a gut-eater.

Talk about a free ride....

Kalispell

Hell, man---up there you should've been a gut-eater.

Talk about a free ride....

Posted by Pinche_Mao at 2008-08-14 05:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

Nah. The Amerinds have it pretty crappy up here too. The tribal elders are so corrupt that the benefits rarely actually reach the tribe itself. The only thing they can do is kill them, or something, because the American court systems lacks judiciary powers over tribal issues. I try not to pay too much attention to it, the whole situation is made of disgusting greed.

Oh and the "tribal elders" most of them look whiter then I do.

You know you could offer up your own rebuttal to Johnson's post in lieu of attributing his post to a person (Any Rand) whom is universally despised among the Left.

Posted by JeffJ

She is hated because she preached freedom and the socialists just can't stand the thought if it.

They believe in slavery. They want to take my hard earned money and give it to some SOB that is too lazy to work. If that isn't slavery, I don't know what is.

She put herself on a pedestal and felt she could talk down to anyone - especially if they expressed faith.

Posted by taxman

That isn't what I got when I read her books. She thought the individual was the top of the pile, not any one person.

She thought the individual was the top of the pile

So long as that individual was her. Her whole philosophy was look out for number one, altruism be damned.

CommonDense, I was referring mostly to activities in academia and the workplace - you know, favoritism that is set in writing by laws and internal policies. Things you can prove.

Joe,

Just a quick question for you.

Do you know the graduation rate of entry level 4 year college between blacks and whites?

If you did you would begin to question how the statement above is phrased.

I clearly understand what you are saying, and so do the others on here who are bashin at you but are not addressing the issue with much skill.

Y'know, I'm just gonna macro this for whenever some stupid asshat who wants to sound intelligent brings up Ayn Rand:

Ayn Rand was certainly one confused; and ultimately stupid woman. She honestly believed that the best minds in mankind, once freed of menial labour, would just spontaneously behave well and for the good of all mankind, and thus should not be limited. According to her, great intellectual minds will, by raw nature, work in tandem for greater goals. Funny, it took me about 10 seconds to think of Edison and Tesla to disprove that. A few more seconds took me to Disney and Fleischer.

She was entirely incapable of perceiving the core selfishness of mankind, while at the same time randomly thinking how to defend against something she didn't seem to think existed. I mean, on one hand she thinks that individual rights are sacrosanct... but then wants to ensure that the government doesn't get in the way of business.

The biggest oppressors of individual rights has pretty much always been the greedy. And where do the greedy end up? That's right, at the head of the same places she thought needed no regulation. Now mind you, it IS good for society at large these people end up there.. because they perform a valuable function. But the same skills and mindset that got them there also prevent them from stopping before it harms others. Unregulated capitalism would turn into corporate-sponsored fascism pretty quickly; because without regulation some small group _will_ end up owning everything eventually. It's all about balance. Go too far into socialism, and that collapses also. Both collapse because neither extreme makes allowances for Greed. And greed is the one force Objectivism seems to think doesn't exist among the truly intelligent.

The entire Rand philosophy is a hilarious exercise in selective blindness and the clear result of someone who's never had to actually deal with being poor. Her family lost a business, but gee golly gosh, she sure never had to starve. She had too much privilege, went through a whole lot of mental gymnastics to come up with a philosophy so laughable it flatout states that there are no conflicts between peoples rational interests in a rational society.

In the end, Objectivism is the philosophical equivalent of jerking off to anime porn. It's pretty sexy on the surface, and if you fool yourself hard enough, it even seems real. But when you get down to it, there's no substance at all and you're getting yourself excited about something that can never be, because of some fundamental differences with _reality_.

......so quit quoting Rand like it backs up some kind of argument, folks. It makes you sound smart but it's really just embarrassing.

CommonDense, I was referring mostly to activities in academia and the workplace - you know, favoritism that is set in writing by laws and internal policies. Things you can prove.

Joe,

Just a quick question for you.

Do you know the graduation rate of entry level 4 year college between blacks and whites?

If you did you would begin to question how the statement above is phrased.

I clearly understand what you are saying, and so do the others on here who are bashin at you but are not addressing the issue with much skill.

Posted by moneywar


If anything, I'd say that the stat you are alluding to is an indictment of AA. Universities have entrance requirements for a reason. Altering the requirements based upon skin pigment puts some individuals in a position where they are over their heads academically. So, we so a much higher drop-out rate among AA students, which is not a service to minorities.

Which is preferable:

2 years at a Big Ten school without graduating

-or-

4 years and a degree from a MAC school

"Unregulated capitalism would turn into corporate-sponsored fascism pretty quickly; because without regulation some small group _will_ end up owning everything eventually. "

You're a Marxist!

Sincerely,
Ray

If anything, I'd say that the stat you are alluding to is an indictment of AA. Universities have entrance requirements for a reason. Altering the requirements based upon skin pigment puts some individuals in a position where they are over their heads academically. So, we so a much higher drop-out rate among AA students, which is not a service to minorities.

Boy, are you messed up.

entry level blacks into 4 year schools for college have a graduation rate over 78% while whites are around 35%.

Now is there racism going on here, apparently by your post it would suggest yes.

Shoe,

Rand set the tone for what has become modern-day Libertarianism.

I don't fully agree with her premises, as she takes a Utopian view of Laissez Faire economics.

That said, she cuts pretty deep when satirizing government-controlled economics.

Rand was an idealist to a fault - you talk about 2 extremes and I agree, neither is a good thing.

That said, in terms of degree I believe we would be better served by being closer to Rand's extreme than Marx's.

Money,

Can you source your statistical claim?

Every stat I've seen on the subject shows the exact opposite to be the case.

Yes I can source it and have posted it here many time about the subject.

I guess actually reading the link isn't part of the program when we have preconceive notions about a particular race.

So, we so a much higher drop-out rate among AA students

You know, I tried to make this argument in college (back in my republican days, it was coold to go against the libural grain) without any proof, and I received a big fat D+ for not backing up my claims.

CommonDense, I was referring mostly to activities in academia and the workplace - you know, favoritism that is set in writing by laws and internal policies. Things you can prove.

Posted by JOE at 2008-08-14 01:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well AmbulanceChaser,

Perhaps you should have stated that. It sure makes for convenient back-pedaling now, doesn't it?

"Perhaps you should have stated that. It sure makes for convenient back-pedaling now, doesn't it?"

Poor little Joe. He started out whining about how tough it was to be white in America.

2050. well that'd be almost a hundred years of pandering to the world's lowest common denominator. one result is a given: everything in the US will be moving at half speed and no customer will be greeted, thanked or spoken to at all. what a world thats going to be.

Whatever.

yah I could care about that now really! Colbert and I can't see skin color anyway!

I am more concerned about whether I will get enough upgrades to last that long!

Are the values of this nation affected by the color of the skin of it's citizenry. I would like to think not.

White people dissappear because they believe in homosexuality.

I wonder why they don't teach how to be married in public schools instead of homosexuality.

They sure do have a problem convincing others on values.

Its all part of the Oligarchy's plan. Money, money, money, fuck life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The most important rule is big money can be passed on from generation to generation, creating people like Shrub.

If you live in France, Belgium, Holland, or parts of Spain, Scandinavia, or the UK, you already see the specter of demographic change upon you. The kindergartens of these parts of Europe will likely be majority non-European in the next 10 years. The high schools of these countries will likely be non-European majority by 2030. Europe had better adapt to becoming an arab/muslim continent before the end of the 21st century or it will be torn by internal turmoil and strife for decades.

(Either that, or they start finding ways to halt the European baby collapse and the non-European baby boom in Europe and non-European migration to Europe.)

"Perhaps you should have stated that. It sure makes for convenient back-pedaling now, doesn't it?"

Oh, I'm sorry for assuming that people knew I was dealing with facts and not imaginary scenarios. Next time I comment on something I'll be sure to point that out to you.

This is a misnomer or I suspect really some sort of scare tactic.

It's lunacy in that it gives percentages on 4 groups, Caucasian, African Americans, Hispanics and Asians, anyone of which will be minority compared to the 3 other groups.

Thats is to say by this is can be said ---
that Hispanics will be a minority compared to Caucasian + African Americans + Asians OR

that Asians will be a minority compared to Caucasian + African Americans + Hispanics OR

that African Americans will be a minority compared to Caucasian + Hispanics + Asians OR

that Caucasian will be a minority compared to African Americans + Hispanics + Asians!

It's nonsensical and the fact that it is being stated ought to make all of us suspicious of it's intent.

whew!...I thought they were refering to the increasing number of white women mothering Afro-Amer babies.

White is already the minority here in LA

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