"Sorry Sully, but 911 and the previous attacks were not the beginning. Interference in the ME on the part of the US was."
This statement is quite correct and yet you continue to try to refute it.
Yeah. They exploit a popular cause to justify their random violence that in no way helps those they claim to support. Their rhetoric and their actions in no way reconcile with one another. But apparently, you are still fooled.
AQ is very quick to take "credit" for everything they do. But they secretly help Palestinians. Because it helps your ridiculous support of these bigots. LOL. Seriously, why waste your time.....
Spud's point is that yer talking out yer ass when you assert that anti-American sentiment in this part of the world has nothing to do with history but everything to do with the admittedly stupid, violent and ignorant philosophy of the Islamist extremists.
Yes, they are ignorant and violent but that didn't happen entirely in a vacuum. They have been radicalised deliberately.
They use the word "infidels", not troops. But why listen to the terrorists when an apologist like you can clean up their rhetoric for them, right?
Wot a fucktard you are.
Spud aint an apologist fer terrorism but Spud won't stand by and let you be an apologist fer American policy initiatives that ruin and end lives purely fer profit.
Yer the only apologist fer terrorist that Spud can see here.
Btw, "Infidel" refers to anyone who aint one of the "people of the Book".
ie. Athiest, Buddhists, Hindis etc are infidels but Muslims, Jews and Christians are not.
That doesn't follow any logical reasoning at all. They wanted help driving out the Russians in the form of weaponry. We gave it to them. They didn't want us to stay. At no point have they even claimed that we owed them anything in this regard. But its up to you to assign them less bigoted reasons for their behavior than the ones they give us, right?
Stay?
Wot do you mean "stay"?
There were no troops there except fer CIA spooks and mercenaries hired by the US.
That sed, there was a window of opportunity that opened after the Ruissians left when gains coulda/ shoulda been made but they weren't.
That was a mistake.
Why you can't see it is a mystery to Spud.
Spud: "Should the Iraqis also be grateful fer all the "help" the US is offering them at present?"
Sully: 9/11 preceded Iraq as did AQ's bigoted ideology. I don't support the war in Iraq and I feel you only bring it up in order to bolster your pathetic justification of naked hatred and bigotry.
Spud'll take that as a "No".
Spud aint trying to justify hatred, you moron.
Spud is just trying to understand it, which is more than yer doing.
Your pro-Queda, pro-bigotry, faux intellectual nonsense may pass as deep thought in circles where anti-Americanism is fashionable but I see right through it.
Yer refusal to see past years of yer own governments propaganda is understandable as it is sad.
Ignorance is no excuse, Sully.
Quit living in a black and white world.
Be a mensch and admit some American culpability.
...or don't and lose all credibility.
Yer choice.
Be Well.
