Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Saturday, August 02, 2008

Barack Obama on Saturday backed away from rival John McCain's challenge for a series of joint appearances, agreeing only to the standard three debates in the fall.

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Awrite, kids!

Take th' ball an' run with it!

You oughta be able to score big with this one!

Aw, gee,

And I was hoping for forty or fifty, like the Democratic primary.

Typically the weaker candidate argues for more debates, hoping the front-runner might slip.

Speaking of debates, did the WH ever explain that suspicious box in GWBs jacket which looked like a transmitter during the 'o4 debates?

Those in the lead typically don't like to risk a debate. So while Obama enjoys a lead I'm not surprised.

That said, one of Obama's strengths is his ability to communicate. Granted, there won't be teleprompters, but we'd heard from the DR left how he'd mop the floor with McCain if those two ultimately were the nominees. Wouldn't a debate offer Obama the chance to demonstrate his superior communications skills, his energy, etc? Would make a nice contrast vs McCain.

NO, the WH never explained that box. Curiously, however, Bush once informed a morning-time talking head that's what it was, in a strangely jocular way.

It almost assuredly was a transmitter, given on other occasions the voice Bush hears has been picked up by other electronic devices.

The only other theory I've seen is that it was a medical device designed to help Bush mitigate the effects of a mild stroke.

"Speaking of debates, did the WH ever explain that suspicious box in GWBs jacket which looked like a transmitter during the 'o4 debates?" MOD

I don't know, but maybe it was this:
politicalhumor.about.com

Or this:
www.internetweekly.org

Sorry MOD, I usually address the question before posting random things. No, not to my knowledge. They haven't explained what was in the suit.

I "think" I heard a Rep (maybe it was Rove) explain shortly after it became an issue that it was the bunching up of Dubya's suit. That explanation was not challenged to any degree, as I recall.

OK,then why won't he go on Bill O'Reilly if he doesn't want to go up against McCain?


rwd

"...why won't he go on Bill O'Reilly"

Fox was broadcasting the Madrassa story a day after it was debunked. I'd stick to news outlets, too.

Speaking of debates, did the WH ever explain that suspicious box in GWBs jacket which looked like a transmitter during the 'o4 debates?

Yeah...Dick Cheney answered that question. He said "So! Don't like it then go f-ck yourself."

0bama shouldn't be afraid of debating Romney...err McCain.

Sorry folks that was a Freudian slip (or possibly a prediction), I don't like Mitt any more than I like McCain or 0bama. In other words not at all.

Of course he refused.
While no politician has anything original to say, Obama has absolutely nothing to say.
He is the Democratic answer to the last eight years of puppetry. Just a big grin and a nod.

"Typically the weaker candidate argues for more debates, hoping the front-runner might slip."

The front runner will slip, if he can manage to get the words out.

I love how the some(KBM) buy the ditto-head spin even when it contradicts reality so sharply.

McCain is desperately gasping for air, and his opponent is supposed to give it to him?

Obama knows he would look foolish in a debate if he couldn't read the lines written by someone else off of a teleprompter.

re:"Obama knows he would look foolish in a debate if he couldn't read the lines written by someone else off of a teleprompter."

There we go again. Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School. If you wish to believe he is a dummy, you do so at your peril. You will also look foolish in the process.

debates?
why?
is there anyone who hasn't already made up their mind?

unless it comes out that obama was actually born a rich white child.. a girl at that... and became a black male to gain advantage by becoming black(?)...
there's not much to ponder anymore.
the only thing that gets posted and remarked upon are... o did this and he's stupid/smart, mc said this or that and he's whatever....
and then the extremists come out and make their pseudo-dumb remarks against the candidate they hate and those who endorse them .... and versa vice.
and so it goes.

all the best.

re:"Obama knows he would look foolish in a debate if he couldn't read the lines written by someone else off of a teleprompter."

Your current fly boy hero graduated in what order ?

(Those other five guys must have been lobotomized).

How do you know that Obama was not passed along all the way to Phi Beta Kappa because of affirmative action? Libs are always looking for a Black guy to move to the front of the class to prove their racial theories.

Even the bottom five guys at the Academy are smart enough to be president. Al Gore was almost president and he flunked out of Vanderbilt. Kerry's grades were worse than W's.

"There we go again. Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School. If you wish to believe he is a dummy, you do so at your peril. You will also look foolish in the process.

Posted by BetelG "

Hey G, who said the following?:

He claimed his birth was a result of his parents conceiving him at the Selma, Alabama civil rights march. Only problem is, he was born in 1961, the march was in 1965. Is that something you would say or do?

Quoting about tornadoes in Kansas in May of last year, "In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died an entire town destroyed.-- The actual death toll was 12. Is that something you would say or do?

In Oregon, he redrew the map of the United States:
Over the last 15 months, weve traveled to every corner of the United States. Ive now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.-- Really? When did we add another 18 states? Is that something you would say or do?

He took a swipe at the Bush administration about the lack of translators in Afghanistan: "We only have a certain number of them and if they are all in Iraq,
then its harder for us to use them in Afghanistan."
In Afghanistan Iraqis speak Arabic or Kurdish. The Afghanis speak Pashto, Farsi, or other non-Arabic languages. So an Iraqi translator is of little use in Afghanistan unless he also speaks those other languages. Is that something you would say or do?

He told a Portland crowd: Iran does not pose a serious threat to us. Tiny countries with small defense budgets cant do us harm." Then the very next day he states: Ive made it clear for years that the threat from Iran is grave.-- Is that something you would say or do?

I could go on and on. However, I'm getting sick of being reminded of the STUPID gaffes that this Harvard-educated, Pied Piper of yours commits and will continue to commit. That would be with or without the teleprompter that he so desperately needs.

No doubt his handlers have advised him the likelyhood of his being elected is proportionately related to the fewer times of public exposure that would require him to actually THINK on his feet. Hence only three debates... and the rules that the democraps will lay down for the debates will guarantee sticking to a pre-designed set of sugar-coated, feely-good, wuss questions!

G, Are you also deaf and blind to go with your dumbness?

"How do you know that Obama was not passed along all the way to Phi Beta Kappa because of affirmative action? Libs are always looking for a Black guy to move to the front of the class to prove their racial theories."

to prove their racial theories.

Such as? (ie which "racial thoeries" are the "Libs" trying to prove by somehow tinkering with Obama's grades, which you naturally assume without an iota of proof?)

...Oh, I forgot to thank Dave for the post!

Thanks, Dave, you sure know how to flesh out the simpletons! ..or is it "flush out"?

That was low-hanging fruit (again, no pun intended...OK, YES PUN INTENDED)

Have a great day!

SENSE! Now you've gone and done it! You have now officially launched the latest theory over at NQ, Big Pink and TexasDarlin, I fully expect a "HUGH AND SERIES" post "for immediate release to the MSM" "PROOF! OBAMA WAS BORN A WHITE GIRL!" What the hell have you gone and done dude?

Ive now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.-- Really? When did we add another 18 states? Is that something you would say or do?

Posted by danved

No, but apparently it's something you would do as Obama's gaffe only added 8 states, not 18.
That, I believe is the ole' self-retorting retort.

The racial theory libs are trying to ptove is that we are all of equal intelligence and that is why we need affirmative action for college admissions for the next 1500 years so that libs can show that they were correct. Unfortunetly the Bell Cirve documents that Black standardized test scores are on the average one standard deviation lower than Whites. Unfortunetly for Obama all his academic achievements are suspect because of affirmative action.

Let me go air up the Passat's tires first, then I'll post something snappy about Obama ducking Mccain.

PS) I believe the reality is that Obama offered 3 debates and 2 town halls. The McCain camp declined. Not sure how that gels with the headline but there ya go.

PPS) If I were John McCain I would be running from any debate or ANYTHING that got me within 3 feet of Obama, cause you know don't want anyone comparing a 70 year old white haired overweight midget who resembles a hamster with a mouth full of walnuts to a good-looking, 6' 1" slim, young hip guy or anything in this "American Idol" society. Didn't they learn anything from Nixon?

No, but apparently it's something you would do as Obama's gaffe only added 8 states, not 18.
That, I believe is the ole' self-retorting retort.

Posted by TFDNihilist"

TFDN, YOU passed the MATH TEST!!!

I wondered who, if anyone on this posting, would pick up on it...

Congratulations! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FW-
re: The racial theory libs are trying to ptove is that we are all of equal intelligence and that is why we need affirmative action for college admissions for the next 1500 years so that libs can show that they were correct. Unfortunetly the Bell Cirve documents that Black standardized test scores are on the average one standard deviation lower than Whites. Unfortunetly for Obama all his academic achievements are suspect because of affirmative action.

Posted by fwthom at 2008-08-02 11:40 PM | Reply |

Thank you for your honesty. You believe that blacks are intellectually inferior to whites.

re:"Obama knows he would look foolish in a debate if he couldn't read the lines written by someone else off of a teleprompter."

There we go again. Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School. If you wish to believe he is a dummy, you do so at your peril. You will also look foolish in the process.

Posted by BetelG at 2008-08-02 10:44 PM

So why would he say "anytime anywhere" and refuse any townhall debates?

Goos strategy-numerous townhall meetings would get fewer and fewer voters. Obama knows McSame is gonna say something stupid, like he was for sealing the Iraq/afghanistan border with Czech troops, so why have him say it to an audience of 6 or 7 when you can make McSame look foolish in front of millions.

"Let me go air up the Passat's tires first, then I'll post something snappy about Obama ducking Mccain.

Posted by johnnylock "

Did you get the tune-up, too?

Afterall, if we, collectively, are to more than offset the gains made by embracing a sane energy policy, then we must get that tune-up.

He said it, I must believe it, and that's good enough for me.

sarc off//

"Unfortunetly for Obama all his academic achievements are suspect because of affirmative action."

So what's your excuse?

Danforth-
re: So what's your excuse?

The variation within groups is greater than variation between groups? (just a guess)

"Afterall, if we, collectively, are to more than offset the gains made by embracing a sane energy policy, then we must get that tune-up"

That's a strawman; Obama never suggested it was a substitute. But the fact remains MPG increases when a car is properly tuned and properly inflated.

Why is the truth like Kryptonite to the right-wing? They only look like idiots when they jump on someone for being sensible.

Danforth-
Unfortunately, this is really what many on this blog are discussing in the context of the first black nominee for president:

"The racial theory libs are trying to ptove is that we are all of equal intelligence and that is why we need affirmative action for college admissions for the next 1500 years so that libs can show that they were correct."

-FWThom


And it ain't a pretty thing to watch.

"And it ain't a pretty thing to watch."

And it's only going to get uglier, as we get closer and the GOP gets more desperate.

McCain is adamant that only Obama has introduced such an inflammatory distraction into the campaign. Right.

Danforth -- who ever said I was a rightwinger? I dislike both candidates equally. It's fun to pick on the young Senator.

by the by -- I have always kept my tires inflated at least 3 PSI over recommended. -- I got a portable compressor and talking tire pressure gauge and all. Also, Patty's got 25800 miles on her -- with all scheduled maintenance up to date. I don't need to be told maintenance tidbits by some rank amateur Senator from Chicago who probably doesn't know PSI from kPA when I'm paying almost $4 a gallon for gasoline! With all the advisors he has he should be able to do better!

I never thought I'd live to see the day when both parties put up some of the worst candidates in history. On the one hand you have a rank amateur that without the speeches is a small ball in tall weeds, and one the other hand we have a combatitive geriatric that's 3 years max from wearing adult diapers. we're all so very screwed.

"That's a strawman; Obama never suggested it was a substitute. But the fact remains MPG increases when a car is properly tuned and properly inflated.

Why is the truth like Kryptonite to the right-wing? They only look like idiots when they jump on someone for being sensible.

Posted by Danforth "

Danforth, you are not telling the truth... He DID suggest it.

"There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated simple thing. But we could save all the oil that theyre talking about getting off drilling if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? Youd actually save just as much!"

What flavor koolaid are you drinking today?

Of course he now has seen the light and will probably be in favor of limited off-shore drilling (to get some of BIG OIL donations).

...BTW, any responsible car owner keeps their car tuned and the tires inflated properly... Maybe the 9% democrap congress will quickly pass laws mandating tuneups and tire checks with sever penatlies for disobedience. I wouldn't put it past them, once they return from their 5 week vacation.

"Danforth -- who ever said I was a rightwinger? I dislike both candidates equally. It's fun to pick on the young Senator....

...I never thought I'd live to see the day when both parties put up some of the worst candidates in history. On the one hand you have a rank amateur that without the speeches is a small ball in tall weeds, and one the other hand we have a combatitive geriatric that's 3 years max from wearing adult diapers. we're all so very screwed.

Posted by johnnylock "

...same here Johnny.

"Danforth, you are not telling the truth... He DID suggest it."

Not that it was the panacea to our oil problem. You wrote "to more than offset the gains made by embracing a sane energy policy". Obama never made that claim, dipshit.

"On the one hand you have a rank amateur "

That "amateur" has seen his longstanding policy views on Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan accepted and repeated or acted upon by Bush, McCain, and Maliki, all in the last several weeks.

"Danforth -- who ever said I was a rightwinger?"

Not me. Look again at the quote I was referencing.

Danforth-
FYI: the definition of "sane energy policy" is henceforth the same as "WWED?" (what would Exxon do?), or didn't you get the memo?

"...BTW, any responsible car owner keeps their car tuned and the tires inflated properly..."

So why jump on him for suggesting people be responsible car owners? He says something sensible, and all the Republicans race out to condemn tune-ups just because someone with a (D) at the end of their name suggested it. Fuck-all if it makes sense anyway; the guy's a Democrat, so whatever he says must be wrong.

Sometimes it seems if Barack came out in favor of motherhood, the GOP would bash him for snubbing fathers.

"Obama never made that claim, dipshit.

Posted by Danforth "

Panties in a wad tonight?

Now you've gone and started the crybaby, name calling routine...

Do you want some cheese with your whine?

I thought you would have grown out of that childish behavior by now...but then some people never do grow up.

"didn't you get the memo?"

It must have been buried beneath the billions of dollars of tax breaks.

Can you believe it? Billions of dollars underfunded in the ExxonMobil pension plan, the largest profits since the dawn of time, and we're giving them massive tax breaks.

"Panties in a wad tonight? "

What's the matter? Can't admit Obama never claimed a tune up would more than replace a sane energy policy?

Nads in hock at the moment?

"Some people never do grow up."

Says the guy who got caught, and now won't admit it.

Panties in a wad tonight?

Now you've gone and started the crybaby, name calling routine...

Do you want some cheese with your whine?

I thought you would have grown out of that childish behavior by now...but then some people never do grow up.

Posted by danved

Wow, every single Rushbot comeback when they have not argument in one post!

"Wow, every single Rushbot comeback when they have not argument in one post!"

You should have caught it earlier tonight, when the only comeback was you gonna believe the dictionary's definition, or the one I need to make up to make my point seem valid?

LOL

PS, my typo on 'not' (I meant no) makes me sound Russian, eh? LOL

then why won't he go on Bill O'Reilly

Because he wants to stick to legitimate news outlets?

Sometimes it seems if Barack came out in favor of motherhood, the GOP would bash him for snubbing fathers.


Truth.

The best was how once Lil Bush adopted Obama's time horizon for pulling out the troops, it became "The Bush Plan".

It is just the politics of confrontation and divisiveness practiced by the rightturds.

the only way McCain can draw a crowd is if Obama agrees to debate him. OBama says "..get your own crowd"

Obama's campaign stuff (T-shits, sickers, etc) is selling 5 times that of McCain's, Obama's audience is always 5 times greater than McCain's.

figure it out

as for FWTHOM, he is totally unware of the Bell Curve being totally debunked, ask him who is "Marva Collins"? All know he is dumb, all know he is a racist, please tell me that all right whiners are not racist!

What a shithead obama is

He said "I'LL debate ANYTIME, ANYWHERE"


Now he's AFRAID to debate. New logo:

Chickenshit for "Change"

"Posted by DavetheWave "

Hey Dave "The Wave"...surf's up, moron!

In 1960 four debates between Vice President Richard Nixon and Massachusetts Senator John F. Kennedy.
From 1964 to 1972 no debates held.
In 1976 three debates between President Gerald Ford and former Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter
In 1980 Three Presidential debates between President Jimmy Carter, former California Governor Ronald Reagan and Illinois Congressman John Anderson were scheduled, along with a Vice Presidential candidates debate. Carter refused to debate if Anderson was present and Reagan refused to debate without Anderson, resulting in the first debate being between Reagan and Anderson only. The second debate and the Vice Presidential debate were both cancelled. Reagan conceded Carter's demands and the third debate took place with only Carter and Reagan.
In 1984 two debates between President Ronald Reagan and former Vice President Walter Mondale
In 1988 two debates between Vice President George H. W. Bush and Massachusetts Governor Michael Dukakis
In 1992 three debates among President George H. W. Bush, Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton and independent candidate Ross Perot
In 1996 two debates between President Bill Clinton and former Kansas Senator Bob Dole
In 2000 three debates between Vice President Al Gore and Texas Governor George W. Bush
In 2004 three debates between President George W. Bush and Massachusetts Senator John Kerry
en.wikipedia.org

Since what we're treated to aren't even real debates, three of those I'll-answer-the-question-I'm-
prepped-to-answer-so-fuck-you sessions should be quite enough.

i think anybody that graduated from harvard should be
barred from running for president or anyone thats a lawyer.

It's his own words nugginfan

"I'll debate ANYWHERE, ANYTIME!"

Yet he'd rather travel 3,500 miles away and talk to 200,000 non voters BECAUSE HE'S AFRAID

Some real potential leadership qualities? NOT

CHICKENSHIT FOR CAHNGE!!

If it AINT in the script, it AINT gonna happen!

notice how libs spent more time here talking about a debate of bush instead of the subject.....typical

and remember that the debates here COULD be pretty important.....I remember that Reagan pretty much won over millions after making carter look like the country bumpkin that he remains today in the first one. I thought that was the election right there.
and there are many here who remember the famous line of sweat on nixon........

but I liked mccain's line about obama being much too big of a celebrity now to join him in a debate with REAL PEOPLE asking questions........he should HAMMER BARRYWAYNE on that one.......

" with REAL PEOPLE asking questions........"

Be careful what you wish for:

www.crooksandliars.com

Obama wants to run out the clock but it's only the first half. We aren't done stuffing the ball down his throat yet. He plays basketball and politics like he bowls (37 average).

"We aren't done stuffing the ball down his throat yet."

You're 100 electoral votes behind. When are you going to start?

"Obama wants to run out the clock but it's only the first half."

So at this rate, he'll win by 200 electoral votes.

Forth, AU, G...

As to your contiued boring "canned references" to the Fox News, and Repub talking points, Rush Limbaugh, and O'Reilly comments, not only to me on this post but to countless others on almost every post that you disagree with:

I live in Shanghai, China. My hours aren't your hours, so I come and go when I can. I'm not dodging you, what a joke! I don't have access to any of those news resources that you all refer to. I just draw my conclusions based on common sense.

Your hurling insults (pun intended) are self-belittling.

Thanks and sweet dreams...

Be careful what you wish for:
http://www.crooksandliars.com

anybody seeing this and still voting for McCain should sign up for FWTHOM's fan club!

Thanks Danforth, I enjoyed it!

"I don't have access to any of those news resources that you all refer to."

Well, maybe if you watched as Fox continued to run the Madrassa story a day after it was debunked, you'd get it.

his obamaprompter must be on the fritz.

Bush again took a hint from Obama and attacked and killed 4 terrorists in Pakistan along the Afghan border, remember, that's what McCain called Obama foolish for stating. Good for Bush! Will McCain now agree with Obama?

Smart move Obama!

Don't let grandpa Munster slow you down.

He's a liar, and now pretends he didn't say it. Funny what a chicken shit he is. HE CLEARLY was against all of McCain's frogn. policy ideas, and called out John McCain.

Now he's AFRAID to talk about it.

www.youtube.com

How many passes is the average American going to give Obama, before they ask him to describe his ideas on how to "change"?

He can't even change his own Party...

We're into the politics of resentment.
Yeah, it ain't much.
But it's all we got.
~Rightietighties

DAVE

I think you've got your wires crossed. Obama isn't afraid of McCain.

Just like any good Captain, Obama doesn't take orders from the gally on how to steer his ship.

In case you haven't noticed, John McCain is Joseph Hazelwood and the Republican party is the Exxon Valdez.

obamaniggah cant talk without a teleprompter so of course unless he got the answers before the debate he would look like the empty headed ass hole he is

Without a teleprompter he is lost and his real views, based on his grounding in anti-american retoric (Wright, Ayres, ect)will come out...and that is what everyone is afraid of.

He will make a gaffe like "57 States" (by the way there are 57 Islamic states...a bit of Fruedian slip?) or "we will not need to drill if we just inflate our tires" and the population will see him as he really is, a light weight empty suit that believes in the redistribution of wealth via higher taxes and views the world as more important than the US.

Without the understanding that without the US - Europe would still be under Nazi control, Japan would be the power in Aisa subjugating people - or all of Eastern Europe would still be under communist rule instead of being free...not to mention the mad men that would still be running free in the Middle East.

"by the way there are 57 Islamic states...a bit of Fruedian slip?"

I guess you were absent on the day(s) that was proven to be another false red herring.

For our edification, what is the definition of what constitutes an Islamic state?

McCain agreed to a 'civil campaign based on the issues'.

Screw him.

"For our edification, what is the definition of what constitutes an Islamic state?"

Why don't you just go ahead and list them, Suckwad.

McCain attemping to answer a question, courtesy of Danforth, enjoy but don't spill your coffee laughing.
link:
www.crooksandliars.com

Obama is afraid to debate. A debate would mean that someone will ask him difficult questions and someone will actually rebute his BS.

Example 1. We are going to have windfall tax paid for by big oil companies. Basically big oil is making too much $$$ so Obama will tax them. Then from the $$$ generated by the tax, he will give every AMERICAN household a $1000.00 rebate check. Sounds great doesn't it??? Except to pay for the windfall tax, the big oil companies will just raise their prices to recoup their loss. We will all get $1000.00 in which we will spend on higher gas prices. It really sounds great until you think about it.

Why debate when the media and his blind supporters fail to ask any questions pertaining to his statements and his stances? These statements would be challenged in a debate. It will have a negative impact on his candidacy.

On top of that, the playing field is a little more level when Obama doesn't have a teleprompter in front of him.

Please be aware that I am not a McCain supporter either. I do not like the fact that McCain supports global warming BS and amnesty for illegals. I am definately not a fan of McCain's, however this Obama campaign really sickens me.

Obama becoming President after only a few years in office is like a Sales Rep with 2 years experience being asked to step into the CEO position of a multi-billion $$$$ company. You know why this never happens in business, because it would be a stupid decision and bad for business.


John McCain had asked for as many as 10 town hall meetings. Obama countered with a proposal for a true debate without a moderator in the style of the Lincoln-Douglas debates. Neither one accepted the other's proposal, so they ended up with the now-traditional format. In the first and third presidential debates, the candidates will be seated at a round table with a moderator asking the questions. In the second debate, the questions with come from the audience and via the Internet.

true debate without a moderator?
so where does "he's afraid to debate" come from?

Why don't you just go ahead and list them, Suckwad.
Posted by SanAntonioCocksucker

AFRAID TO DEBATE comes from the article in which this post is about.

Obama's reversal on town hall debates is part of a play-it-safe strategy he's adopted since claiming the nomination and grabbing a lead in national polls. Advisers to the Illinois senator, speaking on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss strategy, say Obama is reluctant to take chances or give McCain a high-profile stage now that Obama's the front-runner.

Basically afraid to debate, relucatant / afraid to take chances.

It is what it is...

I firmly believe that there should be a 2 hour debate every Wednesday until the election. I mean seriously what is so bad about our only two "choices" meeting in front of the people and arguing there platforms? Seriously what would be so bad about that?

Translation from Suckwad...

"I dunno"

SANANTONIOROGUE

I am picking up the torch for Libssuck...

Why does someone have to list the 57 Islamic States for you? If they don't, does that mean that Obama didn't make the verbal mistake? Obama DID make the mistake...

Here is the list...

Currently, the OIC has 57 Member and 3 Observer States:


State Year of
accession
Afghanistan 1969
Albania, Republic of 1992
Algeria, People's Democratic Republic of 1969
Azerbaijan, Republic of 1991
Bahrain, State of 1970
Bangladesh, People's Republic of 1974
Benin, Republic of 1982
Brunei Dar-us-Salaam, Sultanate of 1984
Burkina Faso 1975
Cameroon, Republic of 1975
Chad, Republic of 1969
Comoros, Federal Islamic Republic of the 1976
Cote d'Ivoire, Republic of 2001
Djibouti, Republic of 1978
Egypt, Arab Republic of 1969
Gabon, Republic of 1974
Gambia, Republic of the 1974
Guinea, Republic of 1969
Guinea-Bissau, Republic of 1974
Guyana, Republic of 1998
Indonesia, Republic of 1969
Iran, Islamic Republic of 1969
Iraq, Republic of 1976

Jordan, Hashemite Kingdom of 1969
Kazakhstan, Republic of 1995
Kuwait, State of 1969
Kyrghyzistan, Republic of 1992
Lebanon, Republic of 1969
Libya, Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya 1969
Malaysia 1969
Maldives, Republic of 1976
Mali, Republic of 1969
Mauritania, Islamic Republic of 1969
Morocco, Kingdom of 1969
Mozambique, Republic of 1994
Niger, Republic of 1969
Nigeria, Federal Republic of 1986
Oman, Sultanate of 1970
Pakistan, Islamic Republic of 1969
Palestine, State of 1969
Qatar, State of 1970
Saudi Arabia, Kingdom of 1969
Senegal, Republic of 1969
Sierra Leone, Republic of 1972
Somalia, Democratic Republic of 1969
Sudan, Republic of the 1969
Surinam, Republic of the 1996
Syrian Arab Republic 1970
Tajikistan, Republic of 1992
Togo, Republic of 1997
Tunisia, Republic of 1969
Turkey, Republic of 1969
Turkmenistan, Republic of 1992
Uganda, Republic of 1974
United Arab Emirates, State of 1970
Uzbekistan, Republic of 1995
Yemen, Republic of 1969

Oh, well,


Three observer states.


Had to get to 57 somehow.

"Obama's reversal on town hall debates is part of a play-it-safe strategy "

an opinion piece about Obama, translated to say "he's afraid", really good assesment, really bright, you must be a Right Whiner
take a look at that mCcain video clip and cry!

basically McCain can't get a crowd, so he wants to use Obama's draw to get a crowd, Obama says "..get your own crowd"

You continue to make exactly the same error as your predecessors in failing to understand the difference between being members of an organization such as the OIC, and being an "Islamic State".

And no, it has no bearing on whether or not Obama misspoke when he said 57 states. It does have a bearing on the loons who try to make it into some nefarious subliminal reference to "Islamic States".

So the original statement was I would debate McCain anywhere any time. The orignal statement was I am against all off shore drilling and will continue the ban. The original line was I will not be accepting public financing. The orginal statement was I never changed my timeline on troop withdrawal. The orginal statement was Wright never spoke those words at services I attended.

Just to name a few in the recent past. Didn't he do the same thing against Keyes in 2004? Only two debates?

After watching McSame forget the question on the other link, it just makes sense for Obama to want bigger audiences watching when Mcsame blanks out.

After watching McSame forget the race question on the other link, it just makes sense for Obama to want bigger audiences watching when Mcsame blanks out.

ONNA

If you would have actually read my post, you would notice that I list that I am not a McCain supporter and list in part the reasons why...so your "see the McCain clip and cry" is inconsequential to me.

Obviously you are a big Obama supporter / defender.

Obama uses the motto of "Change" correct? Please share with all of us after 2 yrs in politics, what positive changes has Obama brought to Illinois?

I live in IL and he hasn't changed anything? Same old Chicago dirty politics...connections to crooks, etc.

If he can't change the same old Chicago / IL politics, how will he change the same old USA politics?

Actions speak louder than words...

obama is a fucking pussy

What happened to anytime, anywhere?

Oh yeah, just words, just words.

This reveals what both candidates know, Obama is ahead. The underdog always asks for extra debates and the one holding the advantage usually refuses.

What does that tell you about the "horserace" constantly being reported by the media (lying motherfuckers they are). They will say anything to keep you glued to the tube, buy a paper, etc.

obama is a fucking pussy

Posted by retnluvnit at 2008-08-04 12:17 PM | Reply |

Mr. Poopypants is losing so bad he just wants the grand priviledge of appearing at events as often as possible with the future president of the united states. The old fool is desperate, as are his dumbass followers. Wasn't 8 years of this insanity enough for you morons? Anything more is masochism.


I firmly believe that there should be a 2 hour debate every Wednesday until the election. I mean seriously what is so bad about our only two "choices" meeting in front of the people and arguing there platforms? Seriously what would be so bad about that?

Posted by GotTruth at 2008-08-04 11:15 AM


I agree...trouble is when you are trying to stand on all sides of an issue...people would catch on if it was done weekly.
Keep'em confused...Keep'em fooled in 08

Mr. Poopypants is losing so bad...

Posted by panchovilla

Losing what? Has the election already been held? I have had a myriad of white democrats tell me that "officially" they are voting for obama, but no way will they vote for him really when in the privacy of a voting booth. race is an issue... what do you think accounts for the 95% of the blacks being for obama? its all right for blacks to want him because he is black but it is not all right for whites not to want him because he is black? You are living in a fools paranoia.

"I have had a myriad of white democrats tell me that 'officially' they are voting for obama, but no way will they vote for him really when in the privacy of a voting booth."

Suuuuure you have. Myriad. Thats a lot. I'm calling Barack later this afternoon and telling him to just throw in the towel.

Yutz.

Yutz.

SanAntoniococksucker

I'm thoroughly impressed by your latent homosexuality and homoerotic fantasies.

libssuck
problem is with sanantonio, he likely thinks "so whats so wrong about sucking cock"?

Ah, another one skulks out from under something dark and dank...

okay so here is the deal
one guy wants to debate this way
the other guy wants to debate the another way
and they will end up doing it the old fashioned way
is that about it?


okay.......once or twice, do it mccains way
once or twice, do it barrys' way and if there is time do it once or twice the old fashioned way

there........PROBLEM SOLVED.

DUMBASS FOLLOWERS

I find it ironic that an Obama supporter would have the audacity to call anyone a DUMBASS FOLLOWER. I am not even a McCain supporter but you Obama Maniac's are amazing.

I have asked many OBAMA followers what has he accomplished in his 2 years of public office that makes you feel he will be a great President?

The response is always some blank stare or he is a really good speaker. Yea, well so is the guy who sells Orange Glo on those infomercials.

Obama talks about "CHANGE" and has been an IL Senator for 2 years and has changed nothing. NOTHING. You are a bunch of Sheeple.

He can't even choose good associates (Rezko and Wright).

The only reason this guy has a very strong chance of winning the White House, is because of the bumbling Republicans, the bad economy and a poor candidate in McCain to run against. Even with all of that on his side, most polls have them neck and neck.

Bascially he knows that people could only take so many unscripted "ums", "ahs" and "ehs" before they all conclude he is the empty suit we know him to be...

Obama is a coward. If he can't take on the simple challenge of a debate, how can he lead the greatest nation on earth? He can't! Obama is an absolute joke off his prepared script (words written not by him but campaign staffers) and tends to stutter and stammer alot clearly displaying his inexperience. The polls are now starting to lean toward McCain's favor. America is wising up to how phony Obama is.

Let's see...

Bush only agreed to 2 in 2004. Even then he had to have answers spoon fed to him through an earpiece.

America is wising up to how phony Obama is.


as I leave to prepere for tropical storm or maybe small hurricane, we can only hope that you are right.
did you hear the SEVEN MINUTE tape of barry hemming and hawing with uh's and err's and well......that rush played........combination of stutters FROM ONE unscripted session.

"combination of stutters FROM ONE unscripted session."

Cut and pasted together? To purposely create a false impression?

Wait till they do it to McCain. Oh, wait...it'll just be seven minutes of disoriented silence, punctuated with Lieberman whispering some answers.

It was very nearly as funny as the tape of McCain yesterday completely blanking out with eyes rolling back in his head mere seconds after being asked a relatively simple question at a town hall meeting in Florida.

Crist and Barbie, er Cindy looking on in horror.

SanAn,

If you watch that third angle, you can see Crist dying to help out. The look on his face is priceless!


Obama is a coward. If he can't take on the simple challenge of a debate, how can he lead the greatest nation on earth?

Posted by utastaff at 2008-08-04 04:23 PM | Reply

What do you say about McCain refusing Obamas challenge of debate? Let's hear you talk out of the other side of your mouth for a while.

SANAN

I posted a link on the Back Page

Priceless

"Get me Premier Breshnev on the line!!"

Wow that Obama Koolaid is strong my friends - cut and pasted together - good one - Barry is afraid of the tough questions like why did you hang out with a racist like wright, a terrorist like ayers and a lunatic like flager....and how come you have no ideas, no policies and no integrity.

"cut and pasted together - good one "

Was it, or not?

"no integrity."

Says the guy who supports bastardizing a recording to make a false point.

"Wait till they do it to McCain. Oh, wait...it'll just be seven minutes of disoriented silence, punctuated with Lieberman whispering some answers.

Posted by Danforth"

But you know, for those times when Lieberman isn't there, like yesterday's total blank-out, I recommend Ron Popeil's "Pocket Lieberman". It s pocket size "independent" Senator that can be conveniently placed inside your shirt pocket, or neatly stashed beneath a podium to prompt you when you "go away" for indeterminate periods of time. With long-life batteries, the Pocket Lieberman can correct you on up to 15 gaffs per charge.

And...

If you act now we'll throw in a pocket Lindsay Graham. The Lindsay isn't much help on facts, or serious matters, but he will lick your face on command and roll over to let you scratch his belly whenever you're feeling blue.

wow - but hanging with racists, terrorists and lunatics is ok - hmmm, nope it wasn't doctored, it didn't need to be - was his interviews with the network anchors doctored, he ehh'd and umm'd his way through them too....

Losing what? Has the election already been held? I have had a myriad of white democrats tell me that "officially" they are voting for obama, but no way will they vote for him really when in the privacy of a voting booth. race is an issue... what do you think accounts for the 95% of the blacks being for obama? its all right for blacks to want him because he is black but it is not all right for whites not to want him because he is black? You are living in a fools paranoia.

Posted by Libssuck at 2008-08-04 02:39 PM |

uh-huh. Couple of months left little lemming, the cliff is just ahead.

"I have had a myriad of white democrats tell me that "officially" they are voting for obama, but no way will they vote for him really when in the privacy of a voting booth."

Tell me who your friends are, and I'll tell you who you are.

So originally Obama agreed to debate with McCain during 10 townhall meetings over the summer--Obama flipped flopped on that.

Now he just says no--fine.

When October rolls around and he sees he's 6 points behind--guess he'll flip over again.


As for the Bush debate--his tailor was mortified about how the suit looked.

"""When October rolls around and he sees he's 6 points behind--guess he'll flip over again."""

Keep dreaming lemming. Mccain is so addle-brained, you'll find him wandering the streets sometime soon wondering what the fuck his face is doing on so many posters.

"So originally Obama agreed to debate with McCain during 10 townhall meetings over the summer"

Did he? Was there actually an agreement reached, or did he just say he thought it was a good idea?

Good ideas don't always come to fruition for a variety of reasons, Murphy.

"As for the Bush debate--his tailor was mortified about how the suit looked."

Uh, yeah...you betcha, Murph...LOL. Nice try.

DANFORTH aren't you an Obama supporter?

Tell me who your friends are, and I'll tell you who you are...

hmmmmmm...Wright, Ayers, Rezko

And you are supporting him why?

Tell me who your friends are, and I'll tell you who you are...

The stupidity of this stretch of the imagination is beyond ignorance.

Millions of people have been robbed by their friends, killed by their friends, hurt by their friends and without a doubt any prudent rational individual would know these people are not anywhere near who their friends are.




With both McCain and Obama needing to concentrate on very different states, why would either want to be tied to the other. McCain is simply an anchor for Obama. It would only slow him down. Grandpa McSame moves at the pace of a slug.

Obama needs to work on traditionally red swing states and McCain needs to campaign in the blue states so I can fully understand why Obama doesn't want to go around like that little old lady in Driving Miss Daisy.....taking their sweet ass time to go places.

They say McCain does one event a day now as he is getting tired. Seems that grandpa can't keep up with his own schedule, how is he ever going to keep up with Obamas?

"And you are supporting him why?"

Because McCain turned into Bush 44, and promised to put more Scalias on the bench. I was willing to vote for "the maverick". He doesn't exist anymore.

"Millions of people have been robbed by their friends, killed by their friends, hurt by their friends and without a doubt any prudent rational individual would know these people are not anywhere near who their friends are."

On the contrary, you proved my point. Why associate with robbers and murderers? The judgement was wrong from the beginning, wasn't it?

MONEYWAR

What the hell are you talking about?

Are you saying that one is not somewhat judged by the company they keep?

"Ayers, Rezko"

Like he hangs out with them daily...Sheesh, you guys are desperate.

Keating Five anyone?

How about Mrs. Obama Danforth????

She was never proud to be an american, till hubby ran for office...and is complaining about making ends meet on 4 million a year??!!

If you want to go back to the Keating 5, I'll be happy to debate you. BE CAREFUL the dem's where KNEE DEEP in the S+L crisis......that's a FACT!!!

I don't know why Obama would wish to appear with an elitist who wears $500.00 Italian loafers.

www.usmagazine.com

Dave-
re: Keating Five

None of them is running for president. McCain is.

"BE CAREFUL the dem's where KNEE DEEP in the S+L crisis"

But not their nominee. The Republicans, however, can't say as much.

ie....

Who was James McDougal and what was Madison Guaranty S+L???????

HRC's cash cow, and bill clinton's infamy

Much better put, BetelG.

No 'your' nominee took money from Tony Rezko. In fact he was obama's biggest supporter from his start in office. SLEAZE to the highest power....

Danforth-
I'm on a budget, LOL.

Are you saying that one is not somewhat judged by the company they keep?

No, that is what you are saying and you are way off, in fact so far off it borders idiocy.

These are not friends by any means but associates of work.

Nice trying making a ignorant idiotic stretch, it shows how desparate and unthinking intellectually the neoconservative right are in choosing someone who represents them.

Oh well at least in the 80's obama just was snorking blow and smokin weed

"HRC's cash cow, and bill clinton's infamy"

Neither of whom are running.

"'your' nominee took money from Tony Rezko. "

And that pales in comparison to the billions of taxpayer money lost via the Keating Five.

Bring on the comparisons.

In the 80's McCain's rich trophy wife, who he cheated with before he left his wife and kids, was stealing drugs from their charitable organization to feed her habit.

"HRC's cash cow, and bill clinton's infamy"

Add to that the Keating 5 and it appears Dave "The Wave" is 3 strikes and out.

Surf's up, moron!

How about Mrs. Obama Danforth????

She was never proud to be an american, till hubby ran for office...and is complaining about making ends meet on 4 million a year??!!

Posted by DavetheWave at 2008-08-04 06:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

You're quite the drama queen!

"How about Mrs. Obama Danforth????

She was never proud to be an american, till hubby ran for office...and is complaining about making ends meet on 4 million a year??!!

Posted by DavetheWave at 2008-08-04 06:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

You're quite the drama queen!

Posted by COMMONSENSE"

..and where is your common sense?

Danved-
Where was McCain's "common sense" when he dumped his wife and children for a rich blond 20yrs his junior who not only made his political life possible and bought him his $500 Italian loafers, but also stole drugs from her charity and was never charged?

I guess it takes two...

"Danved-
Where was McCain's "common sense"......

Posted by BetelG"

Obviously missing...!

G, can't you figure that out by yourself without having to ask me?

:-)

Danved-
Is it still missing, or has Cindy McCain equipped her private jets with moral defibrillators?

Danved ridicules tire inflation, says What flavor koolaid are you drinking today?

who says this really works, NASCAR, Motor Trend, Gov Crist (McCain's VP?), Arnold, Consumer Reports, Time Magazine, most efficiency experts, Administration officials, plus many others

who says it's a joke, Rush the scientist(and Danved?)

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