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Friday, July 25, 2008

I received this email from my brother-in-law going to Iraq in September. It will be his second trip, and he's signed up to go willingly BOTH times.

This is hot off the presses. The link is to another blog that featured the word-for-word same email.

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Then there is this,
abcnews.go.com

He says, amidst the poor communication skills, that defying bush is more important then our troops.

And then there's this:

www.snopes.com

You might want to set your brother-in-law straight, Kirk.

Yet another easily proved lie about Obama.

Pretty pathetic that this is the only resort the Obama haters have.

Lie......

Lie........

Lie...........

Lie..............

Lie again..............

See all you suckers in November!!!!

(you might want to work on your candidate as hard as you work on the lies about Obama.)

Oh and Kirk....How stupid do you feel?

Well, manypaths, I do feel a little stupid.

"Now the Bagram captain is dialing back, having signed the viral e-mail with his name, rank and unit - a possible violation of military regulations barring political statements."

That's sounds more like he's scared than his email is a flat-out lie.

I floated this here to see what would come.
I tried to fact-check it, but came up short.

I don't HATE Obama, I don't intentionally tell lies about Obama.

Thanks for judging my motives, all you secular humanistic open-minded bloggers!

That's a pretty weak refutation from a pretty biased sources, snopes.

Or do you honestly think snopes plays it straight down the middle?

well, the guy asked for his email to be removed from blogs, so y'all say goodbye to this thread.

Sorry, everyone.

have a good Friday!

"That's sounds more like he's scared than his email is a flat-out lie."

Okaaaaay, then how about not leaving off the rest of Cpt. Porter's statement (so we don't mis-judge your motives):

'I am writing this to ask that you delete my email and not forward it. After checking my sources, information that was put out in my email was WRONG (emphasis mine). This email was meant only for my family. Please respect my wishes and delete the email and if there are any blogs you have my email portrayed on I would ask if you would take it down too. Thanks for your understanding.'

"Thanks for judging my motives, all you secular humanistic open-minded bloggers!"

Thanks back atcha' for judging MY motives. I don't know what your motives are, but it appears you're willing to (at best) promote an easily de-bunked story that is unfavorable to Sen. Obama. If you wish to impugn snopes.com, go ahead. It has a multitude of pro/con folks that are eager to "keep it honest". You'll have to do better than implying that they MIGHT not be playing it "straight down the middle" if you want to convince anyone otherwise.

Or do you honestly think snopes plays it straight down the middle?

Yeah, I do. They're librarians who care about whether something is factual or not. They don't care whether it serves their political beliefs or not.

I'll second that, rcade. I've used Snopes as a reference for years and have never found them to be wrong.

those that provide the freedom for him and our great country.

Actually, my freedom is endowed by my creator. I pay the military and Police to protect it for me. They work for me and they need to get off their high horse.

"The News reported it wasnt actually a hoax letter - though the military officially disputes the e-mails factual accuracy. The original poster attributed the message to an anonymous Air Force officer in the hope it would give the author, a Utah Army National Guard intelligence officer, some cover. But the Army captains wife had already forwarded it to others who posted the e-mail in full with the couples names."
www.nydailynews.com

How is this email a lie, how is what he is saying a lie. So now, today, on this issue you beleive the military!

I suppose he is lying to his family....

The fact that it got loose on the internet, well....stuff happens...

Where is the proof he met troops without it being a photo op?

Snopes is good and bad, like most sites on the internet....

I don't think Obama hates the troops, I do think the whole trip was a campaign trip more than a fact finding mission. The soldier is just pointing this out...thats all.

Actually, my freedom is endowed by my creator. I pay the military and Police to protect it for me. They work for me and they need to get off their high horse.

Maybe if you paid them more and appreciate what they do protecting your precious gift . . .

And then there's this:

www.snopes.com

Nice pwnage by TrueBlue on Kirk.

Sweet.

If you can't say anything nice about yer own candidate then don't say anything at all. Also ...start a smear campaign that insinuates that Obama disses and dismisses US Troops. Do so in order to take attention off the fact that Obama has received more money fer his campaign from the troops than McWrong.

www.usatoday.com

do you honestly think snopes plays it straight down the middle?

Ha! Not only does Kirk not know how to quit when he's ahead he don't even how to quit when he's behind.

Funny is that.

G08ama.

Be Well.

"The soldier is just pointing this out...thats all."

But the asshole--Kirk--who wrote the headline is doing much more.

Maybe if you paid them more and appreciate what they do protecting your precious gift . . .

Posted by goatman

I show my appreciation the same way I do to the other service providers I employ, I pay them.

And it's not a gift, it's a right.

I show my appreciation the same way I do to the other service providers I employ, I pay them.

As I said upthread, you need to pay them more. They are grossly underpaid.

Where do you get stories like this. You must have Carl Rove, the Fox network and Ki Ki McClain writing this one. I've never heard such bullshit.

"Thanks for judging my motives"

you gave you're bank account to that billionaire in africa didn't you?

anyone who believes the mass emails they get in their inbox

are dumb!!

turn your junk settings on! you might stop getting the crap


well, the guy asked for his email to be removed from blogs, so y'all say goodbye to this thread.

Sorry, everyone.

have a good Friday!

Posted by kirk at 2008-07-25 06:33 PM

Over four hours later and it's all still here. I guess it's not as easy as Kirk thinks it is to put the bullshit back in the bull.

Lie..............

Lie again..............

See all you suckers in November!!!!

(you might want to work on your candidate as hard as you work on the lies about Obama.)

Posted by Manypaths

NONE Of the things talked about that shows a lack of good judgement.......wright, beyers, etc........at lies........THEY ARE ALL TRUE.......

and on this trip the great messiah just took, he didnt go and see wounded soldiers but did make it to the gym to work out.........wonder if the men who lost thier arms or legs in that hospital were worried about barrywayne's arms not being strong enough to play a game with a ball and a net

The Obama campaign issued a statement from Maj Gen. Scott Gration (Ret.), a foreign policy adviser to Obama, saying that the Pentagon told him the visit to Landstuhl Regional Medical Center would be viewed as "a campaign event.''

"Senator Obama did not want to have a trip to see our wounded warriors perceived as a campaign event when his visit was to show his appreciation for our troops and decided instead not to go,'' Gration said.

BL2 - have you started thinking of another handle yet? I'd think the one you have currently would be pretty embarrassing.

On the Iraq War, he IS the one who did it against the wishes of the world community - who had they been behind it would have provided massive troops ala 1991 instead of the 4000 British leaving soon - and screwed it up as badly as possible.

And we had to pay for the whole damn thing by borrowing from the Communists. You're old enough to remember how much a threat they were, and are now as China builds a massive military with our cash.

AU-
You beat me to it.
www.huffingtonpost.com

The State Dept pulled the same shit, barring any Foreign Service employees from attending, if only to listen, any of Obama's events in Europe. The employees union is filing a grievance, but the damage is done.

Who's freedom are we fighting for?

MORRIS

All I can say is 'Thank God people showed up to vote in 2006!'

There's no telling what this bunch of criminals would have done their last 2 years. At the least the attempt to turn America into a permanent 1 party government through illegal means was breathtaking in it's audacity.

I'll be glad when someone new is in the WH to restore our trust in what they say and do. If he wins I couldn't conceive McCain would go for using the Justice Dept. to discredit political opponents or lie his butt off.

"The State Dept pulled the same shit, barring any Foreign Service employees from attending, if only to listen, any of Obama's events in Europe."

They also issued an edict prior to Obama leaving on his trip that Embassy's were not to provide any assistance to "Presidential Candidates" when traveling. They issued no such edict prior to McCain leaving on his trip a month or so ago.

Also, Howard Fineman of Newsweek reported that it really seams like the DoD sandbagged Obama with that hospital trip business.

McCain already has an ad out about it so it does make one go hmmmmm.

My fellow Americans:

As your future President I want to thank my supporters, for your
mindless support of me, despite my complete lack of any legislative
achievement, my pastor's relations with Louis Farrakhan and Libyan
dictator Moamar Quadafi, or my blatantly leftist voting record while
I present myself as some sort of bi-partisan agent of change.

I also like how my supporters claim my youthful drug use and criminal
behavior somehow qualifies me for the Presidency after 8 years of
claiming Bush's youthful drinking disqualifies him. Your hypocrisy is
a beacon of hope shining over a sea of political posing.

I would also like to thank the Kennedy's for coming out in support of
me. There's a lot of glamour behind the Kennedy name, even though
Robert illegally wiretapped Martin Luther King, Jr. and Teddy killed
a female employee with whom he was having an extra marital affair and
who was pregnant with his child. And I'm not going anywhere near the
cousins, both literally and figuratively. And I'd like to thank Oprah
Winfrey for her support. Her love of meaningless empty platitudes
will be the force that propels me to the White House.

Americans should vote for me, not because of my lack of experience or
achievement , but because I make people feel good. Voting for me
causes some white folk to feel relieved of their imagined, racist
guilt. I say things that sound meaningful, but don't really mean
anything because Americans are tired of things having meaning. If
things have meaning, then that means you have to think about them.

Americans are tired of thinking. It's time to shut down the brain,
and open up the heart. So when you go to vote, remember don't think,
just do. And do it for me.

Thank You.
Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.

Americans are tired of thinking. It's time to shut down the brain,
and open up the heart. So when you go to vote, remember don't think,just fear
just do. And do it for me.

Thank You.
Any Repug running for Office

Army Times has an article on this bogus email from "CPT. Jeffrey S. Porter American by birth, MARINE by the grace of God>" that reads, in part:

Army Times sent an e-mail to Porter, a Utah Army National Guard member assigned to the 142nd Military Intelligence Battalion, asking if he could verify that he wrote the controversial e-mail and requesting an interview.

Porters reply declined the interview request, but said:

I am writing this to ask that you delete my e-mail and not forward it, after checking my sources some of the information that was put out in my e-mail was wrong. This e-mail was meant only for my family. Please respect my wishes and delete the e-mail and if there are any blogs you have my e-mail portrayed on I would ask if you would take it down too.--

When contacted, Tiffany Porter who identified herself as his wife, said: There were discrepancies in the e-mail, but I am not at liberty to say more.--

The Army refuted the accuracy of the account of the Obama visit.

These comments are inappropriate and factually incorrect,-- Bagram spokesman Lt. Col. Rumi Nielson-Green told the New York Daily News.

Obama didnt play basketball at Bagram or visit the Clamshell, she said.

We were a bit delayed ... as he took time to shake hands, speak to troops and pose for photographs,-- Nielson-Green said.

Opinion aside, Obama campaign officials cited factual errors in the e-mail. Porter said Obama had gone to play basketball; Obama aides said that during the trip he only played basketball in Kuwait, not during stops in Iraq or Afghanistan.

An Obama campaign Web site, called Fight the Smears,-- labels it a lie-- that Obama refused to meet with the troops. It includes links to news stories and videos showing Obama interacting with crowds of service members as evidence.
www.armytimes.com

NY Daily News article exposing Porter e-mail:

Obama-bashing G.I. retracts claim senator 'blew off' Afghanistan troops
www.nydailynews.com

Yeah, he sure hates those troops. That is why they flock around him and support him in great numbers. (What a dumbass thread.)

Obama doesnt hate the troops, what lies you print. Typical Republican Smear and make people Fear. Some idiots like you feed on this stuff.

This is fear mongering at its best from the Carl Rove Republican Handbook. Remember this gave us George Bush. Oh My God. If this is followed in another 8 years our country will be a province of China.

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