LOL!!! Never going to amount to anything. As relevant as the 9/11 Commission.

We're committed to making our compromise bed this November... pretty soon we'll have to lie in it.

Whatever happens I don't think Bush will ever be seen as anything great in the positive sense. Thats a legacy Bush will have to live with for the rest of his life. That in itself is a kind of prison.

if he ran a third time against Obama I'd still go W.
Posted by OohRah

"A movement is stirring in Washington for an inquiry into Bush administration malfeasance"

I think I heard about that movement before the 2006 elections. It went pretty far.

LOL!

The democrats are to afraid to do anything. The democractic party is nothing but a do nothing lazy lot standing on the sidelines hoping not to lose.

What a great party to stand behind. Mediocrity on the lowest end.

The sacrifices that man remakes every day!

Isn't Congress a day late and a dollar short in starting their investigation into Bush
and his activities? Actually they're about 7 years too late.

The democrats are to afraid to do anything. The democractic party is nothing but a do nothing lazy lot standing on the sidelines hoping not to lose.

What a great party to stand behind. Mediocrity on the lowest end.

Posted by moneywar

You know, at first I was pissed when I read the above post. However, after really thinking about it, moneywar is right. The Dem party under Reid and Pelosi is condenscending and corrupt as well. I hope Obama really does change the way things are done. I can only hope

While reporting on domestic surveillance under Bush, Salon obtained a detailed memo proposing such an inquiry, and spoke with several sources involved in recent discussions around it on Capitol Hill. The memo was written by a former senior member of the original Church Committee; the discussions have included aides to top House Democrats, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Judiciary Committee chairman John Conyers, and until now have not been disclosed publicly.

Well heck, we used to burn witches with less evidence!

lol!

"The Dem party under Reid and Pelosi is condescending and corrupt as well."

That's being pretty kind. Pelosi in particular has enabled Chimpy out the wazoo, setting all kinds of precedents that will be coming back to bite us in the ass. She was hired to rein that sumbitch in, and she hasn't done it, and the collateral damage will take decades to undo. I personally would like to see her impeached, tried and imprisoned along with Chimpy, Darth and Rove. No responsible Speaker of the House, faced with the allegations about the Bush administration, should ever tell the media that impeachment is "off the table". Impeachment is a tool designed to help get to the bottom of things. Refusing to pursue that process when it is so clearly called for is a gnat's butthair away from treason.

All you libs who are about to kick my ass - I'm a Dem, mmkay?

Why do some folks have to make me embarrassed to be a liberal?

A delusional Obama thinks he has been going to church for 20 years!

Thats a legacy Bush will have to live with for the rest of his life. That in itself is a kind of prison.

Posted by reznwerks at 2008-07-23 08:46 PM | Reply

At least Bush will go away quietly. Carter is an asshole and a failure and he still won't shut the fuck up.

Why do some folks have to make me embarrassed to be a liberal?

Posted by danni at 2008-07-23 10:21 PM | Reply

Danni, don't be so hard on yourself. You have plenty of other reasons to be embarrassed

Same stuff, different day! Keep the deer in the spotlight, at least until AFTER the election. That way no one will ask the real Obama to please stand up, it'll be over, and we won't have to explain away anything until, oh, lets say 2011!

Even K. Rove told them, he would testify in a closed session, answering ALL their questions! I guess it's blood or nothing!

What's the old saying, 'Keep 'em in the dark and feed them b-llsh-t'! They really won't know what hit 'em til it's to late.

I see the 'light at the end of the tunnel!' Oh, MY GOD!

It offends me that Bush is going to take his smirk and his stupid jokes into retirement without suffering any legal consequences for all his wrongdoing.

History will judge him as the useless piece of shit that he is and I guess we'll have to be content with his name and memory disappearing from polite society.

Isn't Congress a day late and a dollar short in starting their investigation into Bush
and his activities? Actually they're about 7 years too late.

Posted by CalifChris

The DEM Congress has only been in power 1 1/2 years. They were sworn in January 2007.

The DEM Congress has only been in power 1 1/2 years. They were sworn in January 2007.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2008-07-23 11:39 PM | Reply

"I was just taking orders, sir. Not my fault all those Jews died in a gas chamber. Somebody else was in charge, and so I just sat on my hands -- and pulled the lever when the time came."

Apologist.

Shall we revisit all the Democrat comments in SUPPORT of the war in Iraq? I'm tired of it, aren't you?

If there truly were a case against Bush the evidence would force the hand of the most partisan Republican in Congress.

All your Dem clowns have are lies and half-lies, coupled with lots of whining, hand-wringing and earmarks.

Sore/Loserman

Never Gonna Happen!!!

The Republicans and the Democrats and every important branch of the US Govt aided and abetted the Bush Regime every bloody step of the way and now someone is suggesting that they're going to probe and indict Bush & Cheney for War Crimes & Treason? What a fucking laugh! How could the US Congress do this and not also implicate themselves as being just as sleazy,slimy and guilty as Bush & Cheney are!!! Then again the American public obviously doesn't mind being raped and sodomized repeatedly!

VERN

The public statements about the Iraq War from say Kerry and Clinton are available online.

They call for letting the U.N. Inspectors do their job and only going to war as a last resort, not the first course of action.

From the article, the phrase "possibly illegal" could also mean "possibly legal", and the phrase "we don't know what laws have been violated" could also mean "no laws were violated". In other words, they've got nothing.

They call for letting the U.N. Inspectors do their job and only going to war as a last resort, not the first course of action.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Don't let facts get in the way of Vermin the Racists talking points. If he provides at least one thing here it is chuckles.

In other words, they've got nothing.

Posted by Republican4ever

Nice partisan spin. If you were honest you would have said, "They don't know what they have or haven't got." Which is exactly why they need to do an investigation or inquiry.

It wasn't Congress who started a dumb war based on lies, it wasn't Congress who authorized torture and it wasn't Congress who tore up the Fourth Amendment. It was Bush and Cheney, enabled by the PNAC nutjobs and Yoo, Addington and Gonzales among others. It WAS Congress who authorized tax cuts insisted on by Bush and Cheney and that the country couldn't afford while all this was going on but it was a Congress run by Tom "K Street" DeLay and Bill "She's alive, I tell you, and I've got the video to prove it" Frist.

I know this is all boring detail and not half as much fun as whether or not, according to right-wing shills, Obama is a Muslim or, according to UFO Weekly, Edwards cheats on his wife. It's just more important to us as a nation no matter what the Bush apologists or those who don't think it's patriotic to point it out say.

Why do some folks have to make me embarrassed to be a liberal?

Posted by danni

Care to elaborate on that one, danni?

Thoes assholes are just like a bulldog, they never give up.

Whay do some folks make me embarrassed to be an American?

Here we are, the worlds richest and most successful country, ever. Believe it or not we have HAD in the past the most enlightened thinkers and the best higher education system and the highest standard of living.

But now we have a president and a congress that are just bitches in heat waiting for someone to come along and bribe them. So they sell out and sell american properties and values to the highest bidder (which means whoever will give them a bigger cut).

And you guys have all the intelligence anyone could ever want and all you can do is sit around and compare dick sizes and tell fart jokes.

Shame on Us, Shame on the U.S.!!!!!

Even K. Rove told them, he would testify in a closed session, answering ALL their questions! I guess it's blood or nothing!

Posted by dogen

Well, let me ask you. If Karl Rove broke the law in some way, would you find it just that he be punished for his actions?

Karl agreed to talk to the Judiciary Committee behind closed doors and OFF THE RECORD.

Off the record means that even if he's admits to breaking laws, that admission cannot be used to punish him.

So, as an American, I'm sure you'd like to see law breakers be put behind bars. And if the goal is to punish those lawbreakers, how does that constitute "blood or nothing?"

One final question for you - if Karl did nothing wrong and broke no laws, why wouldn't he testify ON THE RECORD and under oath?

Virtually everything the government does, it does for its own purpose, not the needs of the people.
Those whom are elected become whores to their own authority and power.
Slavery at its highest. Thanks to criminal precedent.

The particular program used to mine your data at its source, your computer, is called strong horizon, is embedded in the startup code of all pc's and mac's.

Hello, Troy Michigan.
Hello, Dallas Texas.
Hello, Syracuse NY.
Hello, San Fransico.
Hello, Atlanta.
You people might want to look at some of the convenience stores/gas stations in central ohio selling bootleg merchandise.

a google search of "strong horizon" yielded nothing.

refutation or confirmation?

just like a bulldog, they never give up.

Posted by Sniper at

Just because the righturds allowed six year of lax oversight I guess you can get your panties in a wad.

First hire private Consultants for millions. Then stack it with whitewashing coverup artists, like the 9-11 commission. Redact all relevant, sustantive facts uncovered by the Consultants. It wouldn't be a Government Report otherwise.

WRONG CHURCH.
Presidents use to go to Church in the Capital Building.

"From the article, the phrase "possibly illegal" could also mean "possibly legal", and the phrase "we don't know what laws have been violated" could also mean "no laws were violated". In other words, they've got nothing."

And they're not going to get anything until the legal processes designed to get to the bottom of these matters are allowed to work as they're supposed to. There is plenty of smoke, and when we have plenty of smoke, we generally go looking for the fire. Unfortunately, the Bush administration has done everything short of declaring martial law in its efforts to prevent Congress from getting key Bush players to testify openly, under oath.

Now you tell me - if a guy's wife is missing, and there are signs of a struggle in her car, do we let a possible murderer declare that he'll testify only under conditions entirely favorable to him, with pre-arranged lack of penalties if the questioning shows some culpability on his part? We do not. Bush should be no different from Joe Blow in this regard - in fact, he should be held to a higher standard, since he represents our government at its highest level.

There is more than frustration at work here, folks. If Bush gets away with stonewalling investigations and committees like this, then future Presidents can do the same thing, and something very important to this nation's functioning - its system of checks and balances - will be permanently damaged, quite possibly beyond repair.

This is our moment, guys. Either we insist on being a nation of laws, or we sit back and let DubyaCo undo everything that was designed to prevent abuses of power. Chancy Nancy ain't gonna do it for you, either.

The problem is Bush is still in power. You either need to Impeach him AND Cheney or as this article suggests investigate them AFTER they leave office.

I think the wise thing to do now is wait. We must keep our eye on the prize. The prize is the White House. Without it we will be right were we are.

Once the WH is back under the control of "We the People" (at least somewhat I am not that naive) then we can proceed with any investigations and hold everyone accountable.

When the President insists on a law protecting the Telecoms from prosecution there must be a reason for that law. The reason is that laws were violated.

Bush will be held accountable one way or another.

Time heals all wounds but it also wounds all HEELS!

Mary the whore is so right ...the Bush administration has done everything short of declaring martial law in its efforts to prevent Congress from getting key Bush players to testify openly, under oath.

I would not put it past Bush to try and hold onto power if pushed into the corner by starting another war or declaring martial law.

Let him think he got off "scott free" then once he is out of power and out of the WH then let the investigations begin!

just like a bulldog, they never give up.

Posted by Sniper

Hmmm you mean like Kenneth Star? ... you do know who Kenneth Star is don't you?

Here's a bulldog talking to an American President that I am sure Sniper has been well trained to hate.

"...From the article, the phrase "possibly illegal" could also mean "possibly legal", and the phrase "we don't know what laws have been violated" could also mean "no laws were violated". In other words, they've got nothing....Posted by Republican4ever"

For every season,
Spin, Spin, Spin...
There is no reason,
Spin, Spin, Spin...

I say investigate them after they're out of office so they can't pardon themselves.

AU,

I don't beleive that they can pardon themself.

"I say investigate them after they're out of office so they can't pardon themselves."

If we wait until after Bush is out of office, we lose access to a whole set of procedures designed expressly to deal with megalomaniac Prezzes. At this point, we have impeachment in the House, which is essentially censure for the actions of a Prez. But impeachment opens the way for a trial in the Senate, which is much more serious business, not that impeachment is small potatoes. If found guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors in a Senate trial, a President (and/or Veep) can be removed from office. Even if that took place next January 19th, with one day left on the Bush clock, it would still serve as a signal to future Presidents that This. Shit. Don't. Fly.

That is a signal we need to send. It's not as if politicians are growing more moral by the decade; if we permit such a low standard of morality and so much disregard for the Constitution now, the next time a Prez decides to lower the bar some more, it's gonna be grim times indeed. The problem with l'affaire Chimpy is that everyone thinks he's an aberration. He is no such thing; there are plenty more people out there who would like to build on what Bush has wrought. And don't think all the Bush playas are just going away if Obama gets elected - Cheney has been hanging with Republican Prezzes since the Nixon administration. I'm willing to bet we haven't seen the last of people like Condi and Gonzales, unless we get to the bottom of their misdeeds and make it impossible for them ever to return to power.

If we wait until after the election, we not only lose access to the processes of impeachment and Senate trial, we are then limited to our criminal and civil courts, where getting an action going will be much more difficult.

If the dumb Democrat controlled Congress spent more time trying to balance the budget, fixing social security, repairing the economy and trying to figure out how to provide energy to this country instead of investigating the Bush Adminstration over and over again, maybe the country would be far better off. Geez!

Utastaff:

Be a whole lot easier to agree with you if an effective investigation (Bush administration officials actually showing up, taking oath, answering questions fully) had ever taken place.