Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, July 22, 2008

Right-wing radio talk show host Michael Savage is under fire for describing 99 percent of children with autism as brats. "In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out," Savage said on his radio program Wednesday. "What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, 'Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life.'"

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Savage, Hannity, and Rush are so whiny you half expect tears to flow from the speakers.

"Pay attention to me!!!!"

-Michael Weiner (Savage)

How many people listen to this unpleasant little man? However many it is they need to get a life.

Hard to believe this guy has advanced degrees in ethnobotany, anthropology and nutritional ethnomedicine and could say something that dumb about autism.

Autistic Kids Rock!!!

(Man, have I been waiting to use that one....)

Pardon my French, but what a fucking asshole - I hope he rots in hell.

Can't wait to here how conservatives really don't listen to this guy - you know the same old excuses we here whenever some idiot conservative talking head does something stupid.

Dude? It was just a joke TM.

Sorry......

The Savage Weiner speaks!

Excuse please, but why the fuck is ANYONE listening to this obviously insane bag of shit in the first place?

Autism as a racket?

99% of Autistic kids are misdiagnosed "brats"?!

WTF?!

Weiner's attempts here to liken the misdiagnosis of ADD in children to alleged misdiagnosis of Autism fails to fly.

Are there any morons from the DR right who think Weiner is in the right here?

...or ever?

Double dawg dare ya to esplain that take.

Be Well.

I have a good buddy who is mildly autistic...whatever he tackles ..right from childhood..has been to a skill level I could never achieve. With little or no training he has become a guitar genious..a skilled finishing carpenter...and one of the best home brewers of beer that i have ever seen..they have the capability of delving head first into a project and dont come up until it is complete.

Take away the Politics of the situation, an just for an instant listen to the Radio Right Wingers, why are these men so ANGRY??? LIMBAUGH, HANNITY, an SAVAGE, mjust listen to these men they are Angry every day, frothing at the mouth.

Listen some time to the women of the Right, Tammy Bruce, Ann Coulter, All of the Women of FOX, Dr. Laura, all angry women, the is really the real secret of the Conservative movement, BE ANGRY, BE LOUD an you will gather a crowd!!!!

MICHAEL SAVAGE, IS A FUCKING JOKE, he resides in the San Francisco Area for no other reason than to poke his finger at the Liberal, San Francisco Bay Area. Every once in a while (DAILY) he show the World what he is truly like, this is one of those times......

Alan Berg II.

Celisary,
The mouthbreathers have assured us that "the left" are the ones who are always angry.
Have the mouthbreathers ever led us astray before?

"he resides in the San Francisco Area for no other reason than to poke his finger at the Liberal, San Francisco Bay Area."

You're wrong, Celery. Little Mikey Weiner lives in San Francisco because he's as gay as Matt Drudge.

That's like saying rabid dogs are ill-behaved.

He does realize that autism is not some new catchphrase for behavioral issues, but instead a serious ailment that we're now only beginning to understand?

Mr Silly Savage is a douche.

Diahrea of the mouth is a condition that idiots like SAvage seem to suffer from. They open their mouths and ..... you know the rest.

Trying to suppress the John Edwards scandal for as long as you can - along with the rest of MSM - aren't you

I would like to paraphrase Mr. Savage.

Kids are Brats.

Thankyou.

Once again a radio right winger reveals how stupid and ignorant right wingers tend to be. Maybe he can go on with Chris Matthews to clarify the situation. I heard that worked out great for the last ignorant radio right wing nutjob.

"Trying to suppress the John Edwards scandal for as long as you can - along with the rest of MSM - aren't you

Posted by matt1605 "

Well, I have tapped in to your news outlet....

www.weeklyworldnews.com

As a gay, transgendered autistic European-American
(with ADD and ADHD) I take great umbrage at Savages' comments.

I love the free speech that is granted by the ACLU,
but this special type of insensitive hate-speech
should be accompanied by a most harshest of rebukes!

Be Well.

I like Dr. Savage. He says things that are interesting and contraversial. My favorite is:

LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER!!!

, an just for an instant listen to the Radio Right Wingers, why are these men so ANGRY??? LIMBAUGH, HANNITY, an SAVAGE, mjust listen to these men they are Angry every day, frothing at the mouth.

Listen some time to the women of the Right, Tammy Bruce, Ann Coulter, All of the Women of FOX, Dr. Laura, all angry women, the is really the real secret of the Conservative movement, BE ANGRY, BE LOUD an you will gather a crowd!!!!

Why do you listen to them then, celery? I agree with you -- They are almost as bad as Al Franken and that Randi Rhodes chick, and that's why I use exercise my right: Freedom of the Radio Dial (or button if you are digital)

Have the mouthbreathers ever led us astray before?

I never knew that political affiliations were dependent on the status of the health of one's sinuses. The things I learn on the DR . . .

Have the mouthbreathers ever led us astray before?

Posted by RastaCyborg

Every time they open their fuckin' mouths.....

Trying to suppress the John Edwards scandal for as long as you can - along with the rest of MSM - aren't you

Posted by matt1605

Just what make believe scandal are you trying to push this time?

"LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER!!!"

Oops: Scientific studies show the opposite to be true.

Michael Savage is an Idiot!

ACLU-
Hit you in the nads, did he?

Mr Weiner is actually a GREAT American who calls a spade a spade....

Deal with it!

FACT!

Savage really is a grouchy, uninformed little asshole.

He's even worse than Danni

JAMES_DEAN and FWTHOM seem to think alike. (that should be unthink)

A close friend has an autistic child, he loves and cares for that child but worries that his poor health will prevent him from caring for his son.

if either of these idiots (JAMES_DEAN and FWTHOM) had the mis-fortune of having such a child, their tune would be different (probably not, they would probably just disown him, as idiots will do).

I nominate these two for "ASSHOLE of the year" award, anyone care to second that?

James Dean 'BS Test' results:

James Dean BS Test results (on NASA's best gear)

(grin)

The core to Michale savage is that he was once a libral who was denied a professorship. He said teaching was his "birthright" and he wanted to come down on the establishment to get revenge. At least that is the way he tells it. Peruse a far-right message board and you will find a ton of people who think Savage is still a liberal who is merely "pretending" to be a frothing at the mouth con. to make a buck. guess nobody likes him

First--Savage loathes Bush, Rice and Rummy--very critical of politicians in general--doesn't like Obama either--but he is in the same company as the others.

I know this is hard to believe--but Savage remarks are incomplete and taken out of context.

He started the show talking about doctors now prescribing Chloresteral medicine--given to adults--that are given to children at the age of 5 and 6.

There are no studies on the effects of the livers and other organs when giving this medicine to kids.

He then went into autism. AND he was very careful to include that his remarks DID NOT INCLUDE kids who are truly autistic.

He claims that 1 out of 150 kids are diagnosed with autism--and this is true--per the protesters in the video even.

How is it that this many kids are getting this diagnosis at the age of 18 months? He stated that some kids are slower talkers, quieter, shy. Some are allowed to behave badly.

HOw is it that if there is this epidemic of autism--and with 1 out of 150 getting this diagnosis--this is an epidemic--what is going on?

Some blame the vaccines--but why are the other Western countries not getting the same number of diagnosis with the same child vaccines?

He pointed to the minority chidren a few years ago that were epidemic for Asthma. All of these kids getting this diagnosis. Many were found to not have the affliction. But the quack doctors and parents were in it to get welfare.

Savage claims that some (not the ones that are truly autistic mind you), are getting quack doctors and quack diagnosis.

The reason (claimed by Savage) is that there are programs that some (not the ones who actually have the problems assiciated with autism) are going for the diagnosis because there are programs that give money, programs (speech, schooling) and welfare to those kids.

Basically he is not talking about the children who actually have the affliction--but there is a problem in this country where the drug companies are running the health of people for nothing else but to gain profit.

I know there are folks on all aisles that would agree with this premise.

MURPHY-
re: "Basically he is not talking about the children who actually have the affliction-..."

SAVAGE: Now, you want me to tell you my opinion on autism, since I'm not talking about autism? A fraud, a racket. For a long while, we were hearing that every minority child had asthma. Why did they sudden -- why was there an asthma epidemic amongst minority children? Because I'll tell you why: The children got extra welfare if they were disabled, and they got extra help in school. It was a money racket. Everyone went in and was told [fake cough], "When the nurse looks at you, you go [fake cough], 'I don't know, the dust got me.' " See, everyone had asthma from the minority community. That was number one.

Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is.

What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, "Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."

Autism -- everybody has an illness. If I behaved like a fool, my father called me a fool. And he said to me, "Don't behave like a fool." The worst thing he said -- "Don't behave like a fool. Don't be anybody's dummy. Don't sound like an idiot. Don't act like a girl. Don't cry."

Murphy-
I don't understand your fascination for this troll on the radio. He's a sick man.

Betelg...Mr. Weiner tells them what they want to hear. He's the voice of their id.

Murphy- Don't you get tired of being wrong and making shit up?

Embarrassed for you.

Said the wanna be hall moniter.

Alexa, did you smear on your mothers make up tonight?

I sense you did.

Body Beat

I know what he is talking about 'illness du jour'. When I was growing up, it was asthma (as he said). Then everyone had to have their tonsils out. When my son was a baby, putting tubes in their eardrums was vogue. Then it was ADD and ADHD.

They don't routinely take tonsils out anymore. they don't routinely put tubes in kids' ears anymore. ADHD and ADD diagnoses have fallen off from 20 years ago.

I don't know what the current illness is, but I'll probably soon find out now that I have a grandchild. Whatever it is, I'm sure it'll require surgery and/or pills to correct.

The drug companies and doctors are allegedly over-diagnosing this affliction.

You missed the part about him saying his comments are not including the kids who actually have autism.

HOw is it that 1 out of 150 kids are being diagnosed with autism?

And no where on the planet is this an epidemic with the same vaccines in the other Western countries that use the same vaccines.

Are you saying that doctors and health care is inferior in Canada and England and Russia and India?? They are missing the enormous epidemic of autism that is ONLY occuring in the US??

Do you realize what 1 out of 150 kids relates to the population? Inside and outside the US??

There is something very wrong with this..

Alex--you are a grouch--

What the hell am I "Making Up"??

I am repeating what Savage claims.

Why the heck don't you address the allegations he is pointing out?

Where is he wrong?

Goat--it is autism and ADD is still there.

The newest affliction that is ONLY afflicting US kids is chloresteral and get kids age 5 and 6 on adult medicines

Without any testing on the affects this will do to kids.

"Where is he wrong?"

Where is he not?

Autism numbers are up because they understand more abot it now. In the past children would have been diagnosed with something else.

Autism is NOT the newest trendy affliction like ADD was. Look up the actual numbers, murphy.

With his bowtie and self made crayon badge, Alexa set out to right the wrongs of the only world he knew.

Sadly; the other children laughed.

And quietly, Alexa wept.

Murphy-
Look at this:

A fraud, a racket. For a long while, we were hearing thatevery minority child had asthma. Why did they sudden -- why was there an asthma epidemic amongst minority children? Because I'll tell you why: The children got extra welfare if they were disabled, and they got extra help in school. It was a money racket. Everyone went in and was told [fake cough], "When the nurse looks at you, you go [fake cough], 'I don't know, the dust got me.' " See, everyone had asthma from the minority community. That was number one.

Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is.

Alex--

How are doctors "diagnosing" autism at 18 months old?

Do you have kids?

IMHO there is some credence to what Savage is pointing out here--

Drug companies, quack doctors and plaintiff lawyers are trying to run the country and the kids in it.

There is no Credible testing for autism--nothing the same for any child.

Oh--your child is overactive--autism.

Oh--your child is too quiet--autism..

Oh--your child doesn't have enough words by a certain age--or two worded sentences--autism.

There is no reliable testing and the kids are the ones that are the ginney pigs for probable BS.

Murphy-
You left out how it was a racket for "minorities", which was Savage's point.

Do you understand how warped this man is?

IMHO there is some credence to what Savage is pointing out here--


So 99% of all autistic diagnosis is wrong, murphy?

Yes or No?

Said the wanna be hall moniter.

Alexa, did you smear on your mothers make up tonight?

Posted by theretrosic at 2008-07-22 11:07 PM | Reply | Flag

Eat a dick you PWZ clown.

Murphy- Read and learn: www.autism-society.org

In his new book Unstrange Minds; Remapping the World of Autism, George Washington University anthropologist Roy Richard Grinker, who has an autistic 15-year-old daughter, makes the case that the rise in autism diagnosis is nothing more than an epidemic of discovery.

www.amazon.com

Dutch-
You're right about the id.

Murphy- Psychiatrists didn't even really start attempting to diagnose child mental disorders until the early 1980's. So it's easy to see how the numbers of diagnosis' could go up so quickly.

It's not an epidemic. It's not a "lets get these kids drugs" situation like ADD was. It's not a fad.

What it is...the definition of autism has been broadened as understanding of it has increased.

Why is autism only in this country for

1 out of 150 children?

Why only US children?

Why is there no credible testing to diagnos autism--yet the US has the epidemic?

I don't know what the percentage is for wrong diagnosis.

But answer the three questions.

I am checking out your link..

No one thought ADD was a "fad" at the time it was being pushed by the drug companies either.

Why only US children?


Because they call it other things overseas.

I don't know what the percentage is for wrong diagnosis.


Um...you asked me what savage said was wrong. He said 99% was BS. If you can't defend that, then don't hold up his statements as the absolute truth!

(Alexa in preperation for nightly retort hatred)

1. Self made hall moniter pass (in crayon)
CHECK

2. Self righteous snottyiness.
CHECK

3. Memories of mothers berations.
SOB

Poor Alexa.

I think it's obvious from Savage's remarks that autism is a "money racket" for "minorities", and that 99% of them are faking, or just haven't been taught not to be crybabies by Michael Weiner's loving daddy.

Hey rex-

Play some decent music for once. It won't justify your wasting space here, but it could help.

"Wiener"? No, I think "Weiner" is right.

Why is there no credible testing to diagnos autism--yet the US has the epidemic?

It doesn't. The people saying it's an epidemic are wrong. They're freaking out, and they want more govt money to help, so they overstate the case.

THERETROSIC:

You signed up for another ID just to "Savage" ALEX?

That's pretty autistic of ya

Rex wanted to make a badge, but he ate all his crayons.

Double smear the lipstick and rouge Alexa, it will add to your power.

Like a demon visaged Tammy Faye.

I believe that autism is a fad being pushed by doctors, schools, counselors and whatnot nowadays and I didn't need this Savage guy whoever he is to tell me that.

I know a couple of kids who were diagnosed as autistic who did terrible in school even with counseling and whatnot. In both cases they lived with their moms at the time but when the moms moved out-of-state they went to live with their dads. Miracle of miracles within a few months the diagnosis was dropped. I'm not saying dads are better for such kids, I'm saying a parent who doesn't baby them is.

I'm sure there are legitimately autistic kids but not nowhere near the numbers stated.

I could savage you too Eunch.

Gimme a scotch-
re: "I believe that autism is a fad being pushed by doctors, schools, counselors and whatnot nowadays and I didn't need this Savage guy whoever he is to tell me that."

Good, because Savage didn't tell you that. He said that it was a "money racket" by "minorities" who weren't properly taught not how to be girly men by his stern daddy, all Murphy spin aside.

Never heard of a 'Eunch'.

You're autistic - and a child

Good thread for you to be on.

Rogers protects you from me.

You're feeder cattle, I only take what sustains me.

The bloodbath will be on my schedule.

Alex--I don't hold Savage to anything..

I am not and could not back up his statement of 99%.

And if you want to tear down the premise of Savage's premise that something is wrong with the diagnosis of autism--you have to do better than that.

A person's arguement is not based on just ONE comment to prove it wrong. You know that.

From your link--

People with autism also process and respond to information in unique ways. In some cases, aggressive and/or self-injurious behavior may be present. Persons with autism may also exhibit some of the following traits:

Insistence on sameness; resistance to change
Difficulty in expressing needs, using gestures or pointing instead of words
Repeating words or phrases in place of normal, responsive language
Laughing (and/or crying) for no apparent reason; showing distress for reasons not apparent to others
Preference to being alone; aloof manner
Tantrums
Difficulty in mixing with others
Not wanting to cuddle or be cuddled
Little or no eye contact
Unresponsive to normal teaching methods
Sustained odd play
Spinning objects
Obsessive attachment to objects
Apparent over-sensitivity or under-sensitivity to pain
No real fears of danger
Noticeable physical over-activity or extreme under-activity
Uneven gross/fine motor skills
Non-responsive to verbal cues; acts as if deaf, although hearing tests in normal range

There are millions of kids who exhibit this behavior and the quack doctors want to put pigeon hole the kids into some BS category of autism????

Does it occur to you--if you have kids--that kids exhibit ALL--I mean ALL these behaviors--at some time or another.

How would you like your kids put into a box of autism --just because--

"Difficulty in expressing needs, using gestures or pointing instead of words"

Every 18 month child does this!

"Insistence on sameness; resistance to change"

This is every rightwinger for eternity!

"Repeating words or phrases in place of normal, responsive language"

This is BBob!!!

"Laughing (and/or crying) for no apparent reason"

This is for women on menopause!

"Noticeable physical over-activity or extreme under-activity"

What the phuck is this?!!

So if the child is over active or extremely UNDER Active--they are autistic??

It is horrible for folks--families and kids who actually have autism.

Doesn't this SEEM to be OVERLY BROAD?? Just a bit??

But don't try and fool folks about this as being the "TEST" for autism.

no ONE thing makes a kid autistic murphy. It's a combination of symptoms and a pattern of them, like any illness.

Classic!

90% of you never listen to the man but are ready to sell him down the river.

How "progressive" of you.

jeesh - you'd have thought he was at the 'tort spewing how good kidz are bratz. you know, like y'all have done to me for my own...

your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

again.

btw - i've only been around one autistic child who used to share a ride to the school busstop every other week with my own. he was a brat = 100% in my case.

Mato- I've listened to him. He is thoughtful and educated about 75% of the time.

Then he drops "get aids and die" bombs the other 25% and I turn the station.

After a few months of crap like this...I decided not to listen to him anymore. The guy just says this crap stuff for ratings, like ann coulter. No one with as many advanced degrees as he has could be this retarded.

I've listened to Savage plenty of times - for 10 minutes at a time. Enough to know I'd rather move on down the dial.

MOre--

"Obsessive attachment to objects"

Have you ever heard of the 2 year olds Property Rule?

What's yours in mine and never yours. And if you think it's yours--it's not--it's mine--always has been.

Two year olds never share their toys.

Apparent over-sensitivity or under-sensitivity to pain

What does this mean? Go off your own life experience and it makes no sense.

"No real fears of danger"

Ever see a child on the monkey bars? Walking on a ledge of anything? Jumping out of a swing--doing a double Ganor?

These "behaviors" have problems and there is an underlying motive.

Alexandrite-
You don't understand. He said "get aids and die" to a caller merely to illustrate how drug companies are manipulating homos, traitors and minorities.

Just ask Murphy.

Autism is a fad, the ones that blindly believe are the looking for excuses.

It's what liberals do, they look for anything to blame, anything other then self.

Anything that can breed a hand out is a-ok.

The facts be damned.

I had a series of Savage quotes, but the number of windows I had up led to me putting them in the wrong thread.

Here's a website if anyone wishes to find these comments on their own.

It includes big parts of the radio segment for context:

mediamatters.org

Murphy- All people should be wary of doctors and fad diagnosis'. All people should get at least a 2nd opinion.

that said, if Savage "has a point" then make it on your own. Otherwise, you find yourself in a position where you have to defend the numbers he has pulled from his ass during hour 3 of a radio rant.

If you can't do that, then make the case for autism being a fad on your OWN. Don't use Savage as a good example, then claim you don't need to substantiate his ridiculous assertions.

Read my posts Alex--

Savage--IMHO--makes arguements that there are other motives for all the autism cases being diagnosed in this country. The diagnosis is too broad and every child has the "characteristics" as per your link.

1 out of 150 is an epidemic. That is not Savage's number--that is the experts.

You explain it --

and every child has the "characteristics" as per your link.


Some, not all.

If they were diagnosing autism based on only a few of the characteristics, you'd have a point.

And the 1 out of 150:

Autism is not ONE illness. It is a spectrum of similar ones. In fact, it is not even classified as all one illness by the medical profession. Take "aspergers disorder" as an example.

The common cold is the same way. Similar viruses, but actually millions of different ones that have the same general effect on the human body.

Is Rhinovirus an epidemic because of this? NO.

PS- It's "Autistic Spectrum Disorders" in Europe, and Pervasive Developmental Disorders (PDD) in the US.

www.ninds.nih.gov

Autism is a complex disorder. A comprehensive evaluation requires a multidisciplinary team including a psychologist, neurologist, psychiatrist, speech therapist, and other professionals who diagnose children with ASDs.

This hardly sounds like fad diagnosis'. This takes time to do properly.

Unlike ADD, which a dr. can just say you have it in ten minutes and prescribe ritalin.

ANY doctor that makes a neurological assessment that is not rigorous is a bad one. But they do not reflect the majority of MD's in the field.

Just a question...if the Silly Savage were somehow castrated-would rexy and murphy lose their tongues?

If George Carlin had said it everyone would laugh.

"If George Carlin had said it everyone would laugh."

You're confusing making a joke with being a joke.

savage is much better read than listened to. that goes for so many talking heads, except bor - his books even exude "bill-bill-bill".

Michael Weiner commenting on disfunctionality?
Surely you jest.

"What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, `Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, you idiot."

screaming? being a moron? acting like a putz? not acting like a man? crying and screaming? and idiot?

sounds like savage is autistic

I have to agree with Murphy on this one.

Your 2008-07-22 10:47 PM post is right on and anyone commenting on here that has not read it needs to.

Savage is an Independent Conservative. He calls out both sides on all issues.

He is also the most intelligent talk show host on the radio with a huge command of the english language, a supurb understanding of history and a vast knowlege of important literature.

Liberal or Conservative, anyone can learn from listening to him.

He is abrasive. He is quick to anger (though he points out what's wrong with being passionate about things)

I do not alway agree with him, nor should anyone totally agree with anyone else.

He offers highly intellegent commentary and very logical debate on many issues that we are faced with today.

'Autistic Kids Rock' gets nothing?!?!?!???

Tough fucking crowd.....

Savage is an idiot. I heard him on the radio weeks ago blame the disappearence of 50's and 60's muscle cars--the ones that get 5-9 MPG--on "liberals."

If he had some "Some kids who are diagnosed as autistic really just haven't been taught how to act...." or something similar, there would be some room for debate.

But what he said is purely idiotic.

I heard him on the radio weeks ago blame the disappearence of 50's and 60's muscle cars--the ones that get 5-9 MPG--on "liberals."

Posted by johnjkavanagh

And then "liberals" go and blame it on.... Ralph Nader!

Well, at least Danni does.

She loved her Corvair.

Sorry, Danni.

"In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out,"

As the grandfather of an autistic 12 year old boy, I can attest to the fact that Savage's statement is smack-dab spot on. His parents allow ANY type of behavior with the excuse, "He's special." For instance, he shits his pants EVERY day because he doesn't want to leave his video games and they just wash him up and put on clean underwear. It's easier to do that than train him, I guess. He stayed with us for a week this month and didn't do it once because he had been told if he does, the video game goes away for the day. We had to do that once or twice in the past so he believes us now.
True, it's an ordeal to train him until he realizes he won't win. His parents don't want the grief so they just let him run wild. I suspect many parents do that and that's why they have a "brat."

Jest, are you saying your grandchild is or is not autistic?

"Jest, are you saying your grandchild is or is not autistic??

he has been diagnosed as autistic.

he has been diagnosed as autistic.

Posted by jestgettinalong

Well, then, I don't think that you actually are agreeing with Savage.. Isn't he essentially saying that children are being misdiagnosed with autism when they are merely brats? Your grandson shits his pants.... that's way beyond bratty. But I'm no M.D.

This is a white disease!!!

So parents dont want to be the bad guy and wants medication to modify their kids behavior.

BEAT THAT ASS!!!!

This is a white disease!!!

[citation needed]

"Well, then, I don't think that you actually are agreeing with Savage.."

I was agreeing with THIS statement.

"Michael Savage is under fire for describing 99 percent of children with autism as brats."

I see children with different levels of autism who ARE brats for the reasons I mentioned.

In the article, he goes on to say that many of the brats aren't actually autistic which is also true.

"Your grandson shits his pants.... that's way beyond bratty."

He amazes me in many ways. He can read and pronounce any word...I mean, ANY word...but he doesn't know what he's reading. He can accurately quote the lines of all the actors in any Indiana Jones or Star Wars movie. He could do many more things if his parents would just work with him instead of baby sit him with video games. He has a memory like an elephant. If you tell him something, he'll repeat it to you years later. All he needs is a little persistence and a little discipline. He's a different kid away from his parents.

michaelsavage.wnd.com

Very informative website!

"I'm sure there are legitimately autistic children...."

Mighty white of you, son.

Neurologically based disorders are difficult for certain members of the far-right, people who often very much want to believe that anyone who seems very helpless isn't really, but has some hidden motive, usually centering on shaking them loose of their precious money.

This is a white disease!!!

[citation needed]

Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2008-07-23 03:49 PM

Kinda like Buliemia

"His parents don't want the grief so they just let him run wild. I suspect many parents do that and that's why they have a "brat.""

Sounds like you did a great job raising yer own "brats".

Ours is the most over-diagnosed and over-medicated country in the history of the world. It's a little amazing to me how many personality defects are actually now considered medical deficiencies. Alcoholism, overeating, drug abuse, generally being just a dick--there's now a fancy name for it, and a legion of medical and psychotherapeutic practitioners reaching into your wallet.

I'm of the opinion that most (not 99%, mind you, but most) of those so prescribed haven't been done a favor. The advice used to be to kick the booze habit, quit smoking, act properly, quit eating so much--now there's an entire establishment set up to tell you none of those things are your fault. Take one of these $14 pills every day, get plenty of therapy at $50 an hour--and you'll be able to "manage" your condition. (I quote from memory, from the diagnosis of my ADD/OCD/bipolar ex-wife who--funny enough--also drank way too much. Wasn't her fault, though. Of course.)

"There's an entire establishment telling you it's not your fault...."

I rest my case. And, if you are reading this and are autistic, that is not your fault.

Kinda like Buliemia

Posted by fresno500

LOL... you should talk to a few black guys here in chelsea... they might disagree with you as they wipe the vomit from their mouths.

Funny, coming from a guilt ridden in the closet homosexual who molests his dogs

I have 3 friends with autistic children, I admire the courage of those parents, their everyday lives are difficult. None of these kids are taking medications, is this a right wing talking point?. Or maybe no right winger has autistic children, it's a liberal afliction.

the stupidity of right wingers is in full dislay in these posts.

What's a "dislay"? If that an "afliction"?

The right doesn't have a monopoly on stupidity, it would seem.

What's a "dislay"? If that an "afliction"?

The right doesn't have a monopoly on stupidity, it would seem.

Posted by rightisrigh

Above post is so typical of todays COWARDLY right winger: when unable to critically think, look for a typo and think in your dumb ass ignorant tunnell vision mind that the typo will flaw the arguement. NO WONDER YOU MORONS ARE GOING TO BE POLITICALLY EXTINCT AFTER NOVEMBER

Oh. Well, his "point"--as it was--is that no right-winger has autistic children, else we would all know that autism is real. Or something.

And my point is that if you're going to call other people stupid, at least spell the words right.

"And my point is that if you're going to call other people stupid, at least spell the words right."
RIR shows proof, I rest my case!
(sorry about my typing skills, but it makes RIR happy)

Uh . . . okay.

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