Barney O'Bama is our next president, especially if a press watching him like a hawk misses one fart, burp or sneeze. The press is way too cozy with the other guy, McWhoozit, whom conscientious reporters surely should have goaded into imploding by now. herm

The press is way too cozy with the other guy, McWhoozit, whom conscientious reporters surely should have goaded into imploding by now. herm

Posted by herm at 2008-07-21 05:47 PM

I guess that's why the NY Times refused to print an Op-Ed by McCain.

An important part of the media's job is to tell Liberals what to think.

The press is way too cozy with the other guy, McWhoozit, whom conscientious reporters surely should have goaded into imploding by now. herm

Posted by herm

And the HERMIE chimes in with rhetorical drivel once again. Yeah the press loves McCain. Maybe Hussein will make a "government invented AIDS" comment like his former pastor and then you will see who the press is really coddeling.

An important part of the media's job is to tell Liberals what to think.

Ignore the man behind the curtain.

Ignore the man behind the curtain.

Posted by crispee_oc at 2008-07-21 05:52 PM | Reply

Katie Couric?

The more they cover the flop eared flip flopper, the more obvious what a true fraud he really is.

Wait until you see how much media attention Obama gets AFTER the election!!!!!

John who?

Well...he's going to be the next president.

How CAN he get too much coverage?

btw....to Crispee...I live in both worlds. I know conservatives quite well. And I have liberal friends, too.

Let me tell you....it's the conservatives who don't think for themselves. They're too afraid to think outside the lines.

However, from what I've seen, times are changing. Even some of the hardline conservatives are waking up. Odd times we're living in.

The media is not biased and also not stupid, but it's obvious:

Barack is the better man - plain and simple.

An African-American will be president!
Deal with it/get over it.

Be Well

Let me tell you....it's the conservatives who don't think for themselves. They're too afraid to think outside the lines.

Such as what? Taxes? The size of the Government? National Defense? Religion? Values? What are they afraid to speak up about?

An African-American will be president!
Deal with it/get over it.

Be Well

Posted by skip_wellington at 2008-07-21 06:06 PM

What about his caucasian half?

Let me tell you....it's the conservatives who don't think for themselves. They're too afraid to think outside the lines. - BillJ

Such as what? Taxes? The size of the Government? National Defense? Religion? Values?

What are they afraid to speak up about? - Crispee

Their lack of comprehension skills obviously.

Dunno, just heard McSame on CNN claiming he invented the surge again.

Haven't heard him explaining his whole cheap, quicka nd greeted as liberators fuckup though.
Or the Iraq/afghanistan border and Czechoslovokia things either, but the nasty MSM isn't asking him to, either.

Once again, the media bias in favor of the left is underscored by favorable coverage of a liberal candidate.

Such as what? Taxes? The size of the Government? National Defense? Religion? Values?

What are they afraid to speak up about? - Crispee

Their lack of comprehension skills obviously.

Posted by Manypaths at 2008-07-21 06:12 PM

I understood. It doesn't mean I don't think for myself. Those are core principles.

Those are core principles.

Held by the herd.

Thanks for helping prove the point.

Now, MOOOOOOve along Betsey.....

"...rhetorical drivel. Yeah the press loves McCain. Maybe Hussein will make a 'government invented AIDS' comment like his former pastor and then you will see who the press is really coddeling.'

Still waiting to see which part El Cidney objects to. The deflection gives Billy EC a chance to use "Hussein," but really says nothing about the Fourth Estate sharing Johnny M's bed. herm

Obama's a better story than McCain. I don't think that's entirely a bad thing for McCain, in the long run, because the media builds subjects up in order to tear them down. But Obama's the first black man to get a major party's presidential nomination, and he draws the largest campaign crowds in decades. There's no way the media could ignore that.

Those are core principles.

Held by the herd.

Thanks for helping prove the point.

Now, MOOOOOOve along Betsey.....

Posted by Manypaths at 2008-07-21 06:31 PM

So libs are immune to the so called herd? How about abortion?

Still waiting to see which part El Cidney objects to. The deflection gives Billy EC a chance to use "Hussein," but really says nothing about the Fourth Estate sharing Johnny M's bed. herm

Posted by herm

How about the NYT not printing McCain's editorial after allowing Husseins previously?

Once again, HERMIE shows he is blinded by the black light.

RCADE's take probably accounts for some of the attention for sure. But HERMIE's talking points are as usual, partisan drivel.

So libs are immune to the so called herd? How about abortion?

Posted by crispee_oc at 2008-07-21 06:40 PM | Reply

Also, high taxes on successful people
Public schools that piss away money
Turning criminals loose
Felons who vote
Midnight basketball
Anti-Constitution on the 2nd Amendment
Needle exchanges so addicts can kills themselves more safely
Coddling thugs like Chavez and Kim Il Sung

Nope, no herd there

"Is FLOP EARS getting too much coverage"? YES!

Billy El Cid manages to link the Times rejecting McC's rhetoric to O'Bama coverage. Let me urge Billy to go to The Other Drudge and click on the Times explanation of why. I may be blinded by partisan drivel, the "black light" in his bigoted phrase, but the NYT's reasons work for me. herm

If the Republicians get thier wish, McCain will have to face the music with the Press as to his ability to be President. In the pass few days he has asked about the problems occuring in the Iraq and Pakistan border. Problem is for McCain "THERE IS NO COMMON BORDER BETWEEN IRAQ AN PAKISTAN."
This clown has in the past week, TWICE, spoke about the problems in CZECHOLOVAKIA, problem is CZECHOSLOVAKIA has not been a State since 1993
So great let have much more coverage of Mr. McCain, the election will be a LANDSIDE. Imagine if Senator Obama had said those things, the right wing an Fox Noise would be having an ORGASM....

Imagine if Senator Obama had said those things, the right wing an Fox Noise would be having an ORGASM....

Posted by celisary

You mean like if Obama said he has been to all 58 American states?

Anyone catch the link over at drudgereport that the NYTimes rejected McCain's Editorial responding to Obama's?

So Obama can print whatever he wants in the NY Times... its his spokesperson, but McCain can't even reply.

You've got to love the Media... thanks for the talking point!

but the NYT's reasons work for me. herm

Posted by herm

Stay away from the light HERMIE - or take your rose-colored glasses off. Of course their "reasons" work for you. Nothing like freedom of speech HERMIE - NYT "you are more than welcome to write an editorial as long as it says what we want it to say". Love libs, just luv em.

"So libs are immune to the so called herd? How about abortion?"

Most of us favor Nixon-appointed Justice Blackmun enunciated in Roe-Wade 34 years ago.

"Also, high taxes on successful people."

We like to call it taxes based on the ability to pay.

"Public schools that piss away money,"

No one likes that. We do see kids as more worthwhile than wars.

"Turning criminals loose, felons who vote, midnight basketball."

Ah politics! ACLU and I recommend keeping criminals behind bars. Felons mostly CANNOT vote. I think basketball is better at 8 p.m., but it's not a constitutional issue.

"Anti-Constitution on the 2nd Amendment."

No, I fully support my local state militia.

"Needle exchanges so addicts can kills themselves more safely."

No, needle exchanges so people DON'T die needlessly.

"Coddling thugs like Chavez and Kim Il Sung."

No, coddle only thugs that give US corporations free rein in their lands. herm

But, but the foreign press claims it can't get it on with Obami?

MORE PROOF OF THE NONEXISTENT MEDIA LIBERAL BIAS. HE HAS NOT BEEN ELECTED AND YET THEY TREAT HIM AS IF HE HAS THE KEY TO THE WHITE HOUSE ALREADY

HERM: I read your list. Are you for real?

Do you have a brain tumor or do you just like to pontificate. (A type of verbal masturbation)

This whining and despair on the part of the right sure is fun to watch. They've been wishing for a left-wing media conspiracy for years in order to mask the growing unpopularity of their wholly nonsensical and uninspiring agenda. And now that the media's excitement seems to have clung to the less dull candidate, they point fingers and say "told ya so"!

In the case of the New York times editorial, did anyone ever care to consider that the NYT doesn't let just anybody publish editorials; that there are standards that they expect? Why should presidential candidates get a free pass? I think the more pertinent question is this:

What does it say about a candidate when he cannot even get something that someone else probably wrote for him published in the editorial section of a newspaper?

Methinks Johnny might have been better served by actually paying attention in school.

The thoughtful conservatives I know are aghast at what's become of the Republican party. Truth be told, I always saw the Repubs as nothing much more than shills for corporate interests, and manipulaters of middle class anxiety; but I grew to appreciate some conservative thinkers, including the late Bill Buckley, love this nation severely, and have always believed in a strong defense -- just like most real liberals, not the K-mart halloween costume versions put on sale by the uber-wealthy deaf one and his familiar Hannity, However, since the fox news wing has taken over the repub party, well... they've shot themselves in the foot. Right before the Terri Schiavo tragedy unfolded, I was talking to a royally pissed off, liberal gulf-war vet who considered the repubs nothing less than bezerker thugs tearing down our great country. Relax, I told him. They're over reaching. They're gonna hang themselves with the frayed end of their elitist arrogance. Watch it. And so they have, and so the world moves on, safe in the knowledge that the Bushes and Cheneys, and their hell-hound, village idiot mouthpieces are fodder for the scrap heap of American failures. Which allows us all to enjoy the kicking and screaming of their dimble souled faithful as a BLACK MAN, A LIBERAL BLACK MAN who knows how to play their better than they do, is a hairs breath away from the presidency. So fun to watch.

"Is Obama Getting Too Much Coverage?"

Nah, Obama needs that 2 - 1 edge the press gives him just to stay a little ahead of McCain.

If he were white he'd be trouncing the old pandering, soul dead soldier like a Roman legion in a hot tub of Gauls. The only thing keeping John in the race is... well, the residual virus of a racist past.
End of story. But, no... the black guy, born before the civil rights movement hit full stride, the guy who brought himself up by his bootstraps, gave proof to the American dream, he... he... he's the elitist, racist, he...

According to Rush Limbaugh, Obama is just a puppet, too stupid to lead his own campaign or make up his own mind about anything. There's some mysterious person(s) who are pulling his strings, claims Limbaugh. (Why was Limbaugh fired from his sports gig....was it something about a black quarterback?)

The press anointed Hillary, but it didn't work out. Now they have shifted to making Obama the darling of the people by putting him on a pedestal --- by what they are saying about him and what they are not saying about him --- just shy of swooning.

Sorry McCain, we all know that the media has been relentlessly rough on non-Democrats.

You are such an ignorant fool. I will bet you are the type of white person who is so nice to any black person with whom you have face-to-face contact, but you insult them behind their backs. What a WUSSY CORWARD!

Takeit-
It's really too bad that the leftist media have hid McCain's bubbling light under a leftist bushel.

YOUGOGIRL-
There are a lot of white persons here. Did you have a particular one in mind(aside from yourself, that is)?

The only thing keeping John in the race is... well
the fact his opponent is an empty suit with the credentials of a, well a junior first term senator who likes to vote "present" on controversial issues.

ElCid-
McCain now supports Obama's longstanding position of sending more troops to Afghanistan. The Iraq gov't has started that they prefer a time-line along Obama's 16 months as opposed to McCain's hundred years.

"We can't rely on our military for national security we need a citizen security force tht is bigger, stronger and better funded than our military." - Obama

This is the biggest shot in the foot of the right ever. "See See he hasn't been to Iraq in THIS many days" with all their silly counters, "THIS many days since Barack Obama visited Iraq" now he is in Iraq and getting not only a very warm reception from the troops but from the government they are now whining "but he's getting too much media coverage for going to Iraq! No Fair waaaaaaaaaah" Talk about setting yourself up for an epic fail. I mean really this is akin to a bully in the school yard saying to the scrawny kid "go on I dare you to hit me" and said scrawny kid smacking the bully so hard he ends up on his arse with a bloody nose and the bully then running to the teacher and saying "waaaaaaaaah he hit me!" Absolutely hilarious.

ElCid-
BTW, you never established that Barack Obama "consistantly claims he is color blind." In fact you have not cited one instance in which Barak Obama has "[claimed] he is color blind". So, just retract your statement and we can move on.

Under the Obama plan, a residual force will remain in Iraq and in the region to conduct targeted counter-terrorism missions against al Qaeda in Iraq and to protect American diplomatic and civilian personnel. He will not build permanent bases in Iraq, but will continue efforts to train and support the Iraqi security forces as long as Iraqi leaders move toward political reconciliation and away from sectarianism.

- www.barackobama.com

Yep, sounds like his 16month plan has as much truth as McCain's "100 year" plan.

Elcid-
You got a point there. We're there, an we are staying. Congrats.

Now, about the "consistently claims he is color blind" thing...

End Racial Profiling
Obama will ban racial profiling by federal law enforcement agencies and provide federal incentives to state and local police departments to prohibit the practice.
www.barackobama.com

Color blind by another name.

Retract it, and that's the end of it.

Here is the blog for the NY Times editorial tank for Obama

Beetlejuice, as I said before I took a little poetic license. BO may not have uttered the exact phrase "colorblind", but it is evident in his proposed policies and his speeches he purports to be so. According to many articles, including one from his hometown rag, he approach is colorblind. Additionally, you can google the words Obama colorblind - have fun. So yes, if you take my text literally and not figuratively, it was not an accurate statement - valid but not entirely accurate.

He never claimed that he was "color blind", which you stated as literal fact.

Period.

"So libs are immune to the so called herd? How about abortion?"

Most of us favor Nixon-appointed Justice Blackmun enunciated in Roe-Wade 34 years ago.

"Also, high taxes on successful people."

We like to call it taxes based on the ability to pay.

Bleat, bleat, bleat .......

Posted by herm at 2008-07-21 07:12 PM | Reply

A herd is a herd is a herd is a Herm

That he approaches issues with a tendency toward "color blindness" is one claim. That Obama personally has "consistently [claimed] he is color blind" is quite another.

Retract it, and we'll be cool.

"I read your list. Are you for real? Do you have a brain tumor or do you just like to pontificate(?)"

I kind of assume the Wizard objects to something. In the manner the great unwashed have practiced since MY arrival on this scene, he won't say what. Much less why. I kind of assume that the Oz's of the world have no idea why, so they just call names and hope for the worst. herm

In the case of the New York times editorial, did anyone ever care to consider that the NYT doesn't let just anybody publish editorials; that there are standards that they expect? Why should presidential candidates get a free pass?

Posted by apparatchik at 2008-07-21 08:27 PM | Re

Apparently only SOME presidential candidates get a free pass.

As far as you're concerned, the NYT should not publish columns from candidates you dislike, but they should tout your favorites all the time

No retraction yet?

That he approaches issues with a tendency toward "color blindness" is one claim. That Obama personally has "consistently [claimed] he is color blind" is quite another.

I would say it's a small distance between the two, but fine I withdraw the claim.

YAV, are you colorblind?

I guess it probably doesn't matter that they've published op/ed pieces by McCain 7 times previously, and also that they endorsed him for the Republican nomination.

Could there possibly be another reason other than "bias" that they didn't publish his initial piece on the first go-round?

YAV, are you colorblind?

Relevance. You lied and called it "poetic license." If you don't care about your reputation, who am I to argue?

Apparently only SOME presidential candidates get a free pass.

Obama's letter was a statement of his policy and his plans. He didn't mention McCain.

McCain's is filled with "Obama this!" and "Obama that!" I'm sure it'll mean something to "the Right" but to me he sounds like he's in way over his head and feeling a lot of heat.

The NYT should have printed it along with the "Old man screams at Cloud" image just for fun.

They should have printed it if McCain wanted it printed. He's one of the two most likely to be President. I also agree with the "Old Man screams at Cloud" illustration beside it, although it wouldn't really even be necessary.

YAV, reputation - on a fucking blog - are you kidding me? I don't give a rats ass what you think about me. I initially came here with the intention of honest debate, but the hussein backers were drinking too much koolaide to be taken seriously. You included. Hussein is only as good as his speechwriter. And yes I took poetic license-I took ideas implied in his rhetoric and coagulated them into a simple sentence. Go back to sleep.

Thanks for the confirmation on the value you bring to an "honest debate."

"I came here (intending) honest debate, but hussein backers were drinking too much koolaide."

The most oxymoronic, self-canceling post of the year. He wants "honest debate," and then invokes "hussein backers" and "kolaide."

"I took poetic license-I took ideas implied in his rhetoric and coagulated them into a simple sentence."

Something is surely coagulated here, but I doubt the writer knows anything of "ideas." herm

An important part of the media's job is to tell Liberals what to think.

Posted by vernon at 2008-07-21 05:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Like Savage, Hanutty, Limpblob and FAUX News?

Yav--

It is an OP-ED for a reason--

And Obama is not colorblind--

Just look at his bills he sponsored--they are all geared to black folks.

Nothing wrong with that--but do not claim Obama is "colorblind".

"Just look at his bills he sponsored--they are all geared to black folks."

More lies from Murphy. She just can't restrain herself from lying.

"Just look at his bills he sponsored--they are all geared to black folks."

Yeah, like that one to secure all the loose nukes in the former Soviet Republics...

... and that one to require greater transparency from Congresss...

... and that one to tighten up Congressional ethics and put more restraints on lobbyists...

... and that one to fund research for avian flue in SE Asia...

... and that one to fund research for hybrid flex fuel vehicles...

All geared to black folks - every single one of 'em.

Tool.

"Why are you guys offended when he sponsered or put up bills that are geared to black folks?"

You seem to be confusing that with being offended by a habitual liar who has been exposed time after time, but thinks typing a winky face from time to time makes everything all peachy keen again.

Yes, Obama is getting a lot of coverage, the media's in love with him...

Call it what you will but the fact is nobody is interested in the dull white bread candidate.

Yes, its unfair, over the top, fawning however the alternative is stale oatmeal.

Call it pizzazz, curiosity or buzz but whatever it is, Obamas got it.

Hmmmmmm How to package oatmeal so that it's wild and new?!!

Politics is a popularity contest.

I learned that in middle school.

Nobody wanted to have beer with John Kerry, remember?

This time we have the interesting candidate.

Them's the breaks.

*** They should have printed it if McCain wanted it printed.

Posted by BetelG ***

......you are confusing a newspaper with Fox News and Murdoch Publishing as propoganda mouthpieces......

......McCain was asked specific questions, he tried to bullshit his way through with Bumper Sticker Slogans, let him answer the questions if he has the stomach for straight talk........

Is Obama getting more coverage than McCain, the answer is yes. Is his coverage more positive than McCains yes but McCain probably gets more positive coverage than your typical Republican gets from the media. It probably would look even more lopsided if it was Romney, Huckerbee or any other Republican.

This election is about Obama and if he can convince the American people that he is ready to be President, then he wins. If he doesn't convince them than people will feel comfortable voting for the safe back-up choice of McCain. So in a sense, the more coverage he gets the better it is for the country.

I do wish that he was challenaged by the media more with some tuff questions. I still remember when the media asked him some hard questions in the Democratic primary after SNL took a shot at the media and he was like, hey I already answer like 7 questions. Unfortunately he hasn't really been challenaged since then.

The most oxymoronic, self-canceling post of the year. He wants "honest debate," and then invokes "hussein backers" and "kolaide."

"I took poetic license-I took ideas implied in his rhetoric and coagulated them into a simple sentence."

Something is surely coagulated here, but I doubt the writer knows anything of "ideas." herm

Posted by herm

Hey HERMIE, I believe your "Cidney baby, AIDs may have been a bit of 400-years-of-slavery hyperbole, just as was the charge that the FBI introduced crack cocaine into the ghetto to eliminate the Black Panther 'menace.' Maybe not. There is some conspiracy buff in all of us. But Cidney, baby, if you STILL don't think that Jeremiah Wright understands the underlying principles of American race relations, YOU have not been reading the papers and there is no hope for you. herm"

wins that award. And as you are unable understand my text I will explain again, I INITIALLY came here for honest debate but found it folly. As you once stated - I would rather talk to a brick in my garden. At least I can understand why the brick is blind - but you lefties with your undying support of Hussein makes conversing with the brick more logical.

You and YAVADABBADO could not come up with an original idea between the two of you. If you would like to debate an issue without delving into partisan rhetoric I am more than interested. However, once someone digresses into obama-speak I go into anti-lib speak. Seems to be the theme of most people here so when in Rome...

Sorry McCain, we all know that the media has been relentlessly rough on non-Democrats.

Posted by takitez

John mcSame has gotten free passes for still believing Czechoslovokia is still here, that maliki lied when he supported a timetable, that there is an iraq/pakistan border, and that Dr. Phil Gramm called Americans mentally recessed. Obama gets questioned about playing too much basketball.

Yeah, John is getting really beat up by the MSM.

"So libs are immune to the so called herd? How about abortion?

Posted by crispee_oc"

The few hundred thousand Iraqis that Bush has snuffed... the promotion of a gun in every little backpack... and oh the death penalty is wondermous... rethugs are so utterly inconsistent squeaking about abortion.

The few hundred thousand Iraqis that Bush has snuffed... the promotion of a gun in every little backpack... and oh the death penalty is wondermous... rethugs are so utterly inconsistent squeaking about abortion.

Posted by YoMeLIB

Yes very inconsistent, because obviously an unborn child bears responsiblilty for it's own actions in similar fashion to a murderer or terrorist.

If there was an unmitigated sentence of Life without parole or endless appeals for every capital murder trial, I would be considerably more open to abolishing the death penalty.

"...an unborn child bears responsiblilty for it's (sic) own actions (like) a murderer or terrorist."

Once again, Cidney. Read my lips: No such thing as an "unborn child."

"If there was an unmitigated sentence of Life without parole or endless appeals for every capital murder trial, I would be considerably more open to abolishing the death penalty."

I do hope that Billy El Cid understands that it's the death penalty that draws all the appeals. And rightly so. Life sentences would surely end THAT expense. herm

"...an unborn child bears responsiblilty for it's (sic) own actions (like) a murderer or terrorist."

Once again, Cidney. Read my lips: No such thing as an "unborn child."

More than any other statement you have ever made on this site, or probably in your life has never been so wrong - but keep living that life without consequences HERMIE, the world you leave behind for your grandchildren will be all the more f-up. Good thing your mother felt differently though.

Well "it is what it is" isn't it?

Poor McLame!

Let's see what story do I want to hear? The one about a tired old forgetful man who is boring and nobody likes and who promises four more years of Bushshit

Or

The First Black President with bold challenges and Hope for the future? One who is sweeping Europe and the Middle East and the world like a steamroller baby!

One who gives us ALL a hardon that just won't quit!

Hmmmmmm

tough choice!

Yeah, it's totally unfair. Obama does newsworthy stuff like going to the Middle East, and he gets all the coverage.

McCain shuffles around with a glazed expression on his face, nursing his liver spots, whining that the New York Times won't publish whatever he wants to say, and he gets ignored.

In any fair and reasonable society, Diebold would be hired to address this problem, and Rush Limbaugh would suck McCain's dick at the Inauguration.

Tough choice? Do any of you Obamanuts really listen to this guy. When he's asked any question of substance his answer is: "hmm, ha, er, ha, well that's a difficult one, hmm, now let's see, hmm your asking 3 questions, I need a notebook to write them down, er, er, er....."

Doesn't that just put a chill right up your leg and give you a few goosebumps for good measure.

I guess he's a little confused having visited all of our fabulous 58 states and he's looking forward to his 8-10 years in office (his estimate by the way). I guess he thinks he'll have 2 1/2 terms in office because he's the messiah.

Wow, you just can't write this stuff and you fools are standing in line whoopin and hollerin for this emty bag of wind.

Onamah gets press because it is news when as George Jefferson would say, "a "zebra" can speak."

"The First Black President with bold challenges and Hope for the future?" What hope is that? "One who gives us ALL a hardon that just won't quit!".... what was your name, Bonnerboy? you are obviously a homo attracted to bi racial males..so I take it that as part of the the impotent homosexual group, you are endorsing obamah. How thweet!

Hitler was also for "change", and by Golly he changed things.

Poor fuckin' Mcsame-he eggs Obama into going to Iraq and when his visit is a major success, and the Iraqi PM all but signs on to his withdrawl plan, all Johnnyboy can do is cry.

I expect Cindi had to fly down to the Quikki Mart to get him some cheese to go with his whine.

...so I take it that as part of the the impotent homosexual group, you are endorsing obamah. How thweet!

Hitler was also for "change", and by Golly he changed things.

Posted by Libssuck at 2008-07-22 02:00 PM

ahh the homophobic arrives! It was a joke... stolen from Jon Stewart. You are a sucha sucker!

And a loser! You have broken Godwins law!

loser!

The Jihad needs containing!

Gosh, I'm so tired of divisive exchange
I've got one or two things to say about change
Like the change we must change
To the change we hold dear
I really like change!
Have I made myself clear?
We'll talk about change until
You are deaf in the EAR!

Poor fuckin' Mcsame-he eggs Obama into going to Iraq and when his visit is a major success, and the Iraqi PM all but signs on to his withdrawl plan, all Johnnyboy can do is cry.
So gov'mt in Iraq, which you earlier claimed was non functional, is now lock step with the guy with monkey ears? So I guess that means he is a genius now.

Funny how he announced his plan before he went, b4 talking to anyone in Iraq.

Funny how he announced his plan before he went, b4 talking to anyone in Iraq.

Posted by midtowncowboy at 2008-07-22 02:39 PM

funny how he can do that...you know...think.

*** So gov'mt in Iraq, which you earlier claimed was non functional, is now lock step with the guy with monkey ears? So I guess that means he is a genius now.
Posted by midtowncowboy ***

......genius ?? don't know......

......but he sure seems a lot sharper than his goofy opponent, who shot himself in the foot with his challenge.......

Obama quotes that have been filtered out of the news reports:

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh.--

Ummmmmm.--

Israel is a strong friend of Israel.-- (Yes, he did say that)

I need a pen I cant remember three questions-- (yes again he said that)

"If Obama was a Republican hed be a comedy gold mine"

Funny how he announced his plan before he went, b4 talking to anyone in Iraq.

Posted by midtowncowboy at 2008-07-22 02:39 PM

funny how he can do that...you know...think.

Posted by donnerboy

when you actually know things, its much easier. McSame is still standing on the Iraq/Pakistan border, talking to the Czechoslovakian Ambassador, trying to figure out how he could have been so inexperienced to claim Iraq would be quick, cheap and we'd be greeted as liberators while the sunnis and shia sang kumbaya. And why it took him six months to figure out what Obama knew before the war.

And why it took him six months to figure out what Obama knew before the war.
And since the surge didn't work, Obama went to Iraq. Funny stuff. The old man called for a surge over two years ago. Even funnier stuff.

The old man called for a surge over two years ago. Even funnier stuff.

Posted by midtowncowboy at 2008-07-22 03:26 PM

Oh it gets funnier!

General Shinseki called for a "surge" Before the War began in 2003!

TOO MUCH COVERAGE-JUST LIKE O.J.

Hitler was also for "change", and by Golly he changed things.

Posted by Libssuck

He sure did...

'Goebbels' reference rocks WTO talks, US angry at Brazil

Published: July 19, 2008

GENEVA: Some pre-negotiation jabbing turned into a potentially damaging diplomatic incident Saturday when Brazil's foreign minister said rich countries' deception in trade talks reminded him of tactics used by Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels.

His comments drew a sharp rebuke from the United States, whose chief trade negotiator, Susan Schwab, is the daughter of Jewish Holocaust survivors. Her spokesman described the reference to Goebbels as "incredibly wrong."

"I live in both worlds. I know conservatives quite well. And I have liberal friends, too.

Let me tell you....it's the conservatives who don't think for themselves. They're too afraid to think outside the lines."

Posted by BillJohnson

In other words, they won't just give up and start thinking exactly like BillJohnson.

Riveting analysis. After all, BillJohnson "knows" conservatives AND liberals.

There is nothing wrong to pay a visit to his Muslim brothers. He is very compassionate with his brothers..long live Barack not that Hussein Obama.
The Democratic Party lef me by chosing this mouron..
Where is Michelle I am not proud to be an American Obomber?

Posted by cmsa1r at 2008-07-22 05:47 PM

apparently Obama is NOT getting too much coverage when 12% either still believe he is a Muslim when that has been proven to be an outright lie or continue to spread that false rumor in spite of it being proven false.

We are asked to believe that Senator Barack Obama, who for 20 years has professed to be a practicing Christian and has spoken publicly of his "personal relationship with Jesus Christ," is in fact secretly a Muslim and has lied all along about his true religious affiliation.

No proof is offered by those who make these claims -- no sightings of Barack Obama attending a mosque, no pictures of him reading the Koran, praying to Mecca, or observing Islamic holidays with his family. The entire case, such as it is, rests on a confused and error-ridden recitation of Obama's upbringing and purported childhood influences. It also rests on -- or exploits -- a deep fear and mistrust of the Muslim faith.

"Stephanopoulos Gushs Over Obama's basketball..."How much better can you get than that? Look at that. Right in the hoop on the first try." Agreeing, Sawyer cooed, "How sweet." All those trips to the gym, 6 times a day, right before he left really paid dividends on this trip.

Live,

No...not riveting...but certainly my observations on people in general.

btw....I looked through your posts and noticed you tend to be generally antagonistic to other posters. I should feel so honored to have gotten your attention.

Your Baptist joke was pretty good.

Was he or was he not registered as a Muslim in school? In "Dreams of My Father" he claims to have spent two years in a Muslim school. He's also recognized attending a Koranic studies class. He was also registered a Muslim in school.

From the AP: "Obama's mother, divorced from Obama's father, married a man from Indonesia named Lolo Soetoro, and the family relocated to the country from 1967-71. At first, Obama attended the Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisis, where documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather.

The document required that each student choose one of five state-sanctioned religions when registering _ Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Catholic or Protestant. Gibbs said he wasn't sure why the document had Obama listed as a Muslim.

The most oxymoronic, self-canceling post of the year. He wants "honest debate," and then invokes "hussein backers" and "kolaide."
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Herm,

Nobody expects honesty from you. Give it up

Let's see what story do I want to hear?

Posted by donnerboy at 2008-07-22 01:12 PM | Reply

Well at least your are honest. You don't want truthful information so you can make an informed decision. Like all Democrats you just want the "story I want to hear."

Frankly, the real issue is whether he's currently lying about his past; not whether he's a Muslim. Was he or was he not registered as a Muslim student? If he was registered as a Muslim, then what does that mean?? That he wasn't a Muslim?

Posted by SomeGuy2

I graduated from a Billy Graham affilated Christian HS in Minneapolis, Billy's HQ.

Other than possibilly 2 weeks when I was 10 or so when I went to a YMCA camp for a month up in northern Minnesota, I've never been Christian this life, nor raised Christian...

There were Jewish kids going to the Christian school & maybe today some Muslims ~ I haven't inquired yet.

I chose to go to the Christian school because of the quality of the people there, not because most of them happened to be Christian...

I'm fortuate today that many that I met there are still my good friends & we usually get together at reunions & so forth over the years.

The Obama muslim debate is such a non-isssue.

I'm still in favor of a Ron Paul Presidency is spite of him being a Pro-life Christian.

But unless McCain falters ~ giving Paul a chance to run...Obama mst likely has my vote this November...with Nader as the wise fool of the new king:>)

"We are asked to believe that Senator Barack Obama, .........is in fact secretly a Muslim and has lied all along about his true religious affiliation."

Posted by donnerboy

He may not be a muslim but he also may not be a naturalized US citizen so he probably can't run for president.

Go Hillary!!!!!!!!!!

may not be a "natural born" US citizzen that is

Nothing new. The media has been part of the Democratic Party since 1932. During the Presidential campaign of 1944 President Roosevelt was on death's doorstep. His campaign placed him in the rear of a convertible, sat next to him, and held his arm up. Then they drove through town quickly so no one could get close enough to actually see him. It was like Weekend at Bernie's. When he died the next year, most people were surprised. The press never told anyone how sick he really was.

may not be a "natural born" US citizzen that is ~ FREDDYK

Barack Obama was born in the State of Hawaii on August 4, 1961.

Hawaii became a State on August 21, 1959.

There! See how easy that was?

Is is up to him to prove that he was born in Hawaii.

All his campaign has presented is an obviously photoshopped birth certificate.

He may have been born in Kenya or somewhere else.

It is up to him to prove it and he has not.

Go Hillary!!!!!!!!!

"Is the "John McCain" who came back from North Vietnam really the same John McCain who crashed a bunch of planes before he was shot down by a SAM? I mean, he looks, somehow, well, I dunno, different in the before (www.axelibre.org) and after (d.yimg.com) pics. Ever seen what happens when you flash the Queen of Diamonds at him?"

Posted by Doc_Sarvis

Perhaps if you were tortured you would look different too. Please try it and send us before and after pictures. We'll wait!

Who knows what it would have been like in Iraq had my immediate withdrawal legislation been passed back in Jn 2007. How do we know it didn't pressure the Iraq government into moving faster? After all the violence went down right after my Senate bill (which got very little support from my own party and never made it to committee) was written. Nobody knows if it was that or can prove the increase in troops brought down the violence. We just don't know.

Barrack Obama
(Military Strategist)

"I looked through your posts and noticed you tend to be generally antagonistic to other posters. I should feel so honored to have gotten your attention."
--BILLJOHNSON

I like reading the discussions and debates here; occasionally poking someone fools me into thinking I participated.

;-)

Bani,

No doubt individuals from other religions (or atheists and agnostics) attend religious schools not of their faith. There's no issue with that.

The issue is whether Obama is being honest or not. His campaign says he has NEVER been a Muslim, NEVER attended a Muslim school, and was NOT raised a Muslim. However, he was enrolled as a Muslim, attended Koranic studies classes, and has siblings who say they were raised Muslim.

His OWN website includes this: "Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent."

In "Dreams From My Father" he said he attended a Muslim school. It's on page 154, quote: "In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school, two years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell my mother that I made faces during the Koranic studies."

Bani, is his campaign lying NOW or did Obama lie in his book? Your choice.

And again, this NOT about his being Muslim -- it's about whether he's LYING about it.

I do not want any of you again to state there is no media bias...which you did all through the Bush and Clinton years.

NY Times kicking out the McCain article because it did not meet with what they THOUGHT it should be - and every news group in Obama's pocket...of course we know that Katie Couric sister (RIP) was a democrat rep. in Virginia (as was Dan Rathers daughter in Texas)

The net is...they are, have been, and always will be in the pockets of the Dems as they think alike.

Yet - even knowing this - you choose to believe exactly what they say....and follow thier lead....and you call the rightwingers - robots.

Huh...I wonder who is actually the robot and which side is actually thinking for themselves?

I find it interesting that in this town when visiting the VFW and Am Legion the people I know who are Obama supporters have 'tuned out' because they are "just tired of it all the time". Overexposure can sometimes be detrimental.

Maybe the Media knows a winner when they see one.

So much for republican hatred of the Fairness Doctrine.

Hypocrites

"Conservatives (are) too afraid to think outside the lines...Such as what? Taxes? The size of the Government? National Defense? Religion? Values? What are they afraid to speak up about?...Posted by crispee_oc at,,,"

Well...Uh....Yes!!!!

a) taxes - Never met a debt they didn't like.
b) Government -Never met a Beurocracy they couldn't Expand.
c) Defense - never met a Contract Bid they didn't monopolize.
d) Religious - Never met a bunch of clueless fantasy-prone morons dedicated to the magical delusion of gods.

Any questions?

"...Huh...I wonder who is actually the robot and which side is actually thinking for themselves? mPosted by foshaffer...

So this is how you guys intened to play the game you're desparately losing? You'll start blabbering that you are actually a bunch of independent mavericks who are thinking 'outside the box'? yeah, you are all dumb enough to drink that 5 gallon jug of koolaid.

Sorry Republicans, You had it all and you ruined it for yourselves. There is no 'Make-Over' for the distaster you have caused to We The People. But just think about all that money you stole while you were in power. Concentrate on that.
Go buy something shiny to play with.

a) taxes - Never met a debt they didn't like.
b) Government -Never met a Beurocracy they couldn't Expand.
c) Defense - never met a Contract Bid they didn't monopolize.
d) Religious - Never met a bunch of clueless fantasy-prone morons dedicated to the magical delusion of gods.

Any questions?

Neocons maybe, conservatives no.

There is no 'Make-Over' for the distaster you have caused to We The People.

You mean we the sheeple? How else can one bash repubs without knowing the approval rating of the dem held Congress? Or their pathetic accomplishments the last 18 months.

All his campaign has presented is an obviously photoshopped birth certificate.

there is still the issue of his phony b.c. i see her heinous back in the race before too long.

You are idiots. There's no nice way to put it. Even "LittleGreenFootballs" left you losers holding the fake BC in your little hands. Obama's BC isn't a fake or fraud, but the one circulated by a prankster is - and you, so desperately cling to it.

You were had and you still don't get it.

My question is this, do we as black people voting for Obama just because he is black or what?. He has never done anything to advance our race better yet we are all over his idiotic head. I am not saying McCain is better either but if Barack messes up which he will we will never get another chance. The guy is a coward..