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Thursday, July 17, 2008

President Bush has been a "total failure" in everything from the economy to energy policy to the war, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said today in response to criticism of Congress from the White House.

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So we have gone from a cowboy to a new sheriff in town?

Nice.

Ain't that like the stove calling the kettle black?

I hate to sound childish, but it takes one to know one. They're all a bunch of failures.

While I agree that George is probably the worst president we've ever had...I used to have a boss that said "If ya don't fuck up sometimes ya ain't doin nothin". I guess we know what that means in reference to Nancy Pelosi.

They all suck quite frankly

In the future assessment of blindingly stupid and myopic epic failure that will haunt the nation for decades, Bush will be the main character, and Pelosi a convenient and ineffectual politician of little note.

So, you win.

So is she, in a smaller way. Peosis only redeeming quality is a rich old bitch with nice tits. Beach houses, her own winery, a San Francisco Landlord.

and worthless antiwar activist.

"President Bush has been a "total failure" in everything from the economy to energy policy to the war, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said today in response to criticism of Congress from the White House."

It is commonly held that typing in all caps on the Internet constitutes shouting. I am shouting.

"SO WHY THE FUCK DON'T YOU HELP US IMPEACH HIM, YOU STUPID BITCH?"

POINT THE FINGER AT ANYONE AND ANYTHING BUT YOUR SELF

Correction:

"The government a total failure"

only redeeming quality is a rich old bitch with nice tits.

Nice tits? Unless she's had them propped up, I bet they hang to her knees.

MaryTylerWhore

"SO WHY THE FUCK DON'T YOU HELP US IMPEACH HIM, YOU STUPID BITCH?"

I agree. Pussy Pelosi has been an embarrassment to all who voted to elect her as House Leader. And first female ever to hold the position too. She's catered to Bush's every war whim. *sigh* I give up.

I agree. Pussy Pelosi has been an embarrassment to all who voted to elect her as House Leader. And first female ever to hold the position too. She's catered to Bush's every war whim. *sigh* I give up.

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Peosis only redeeming quality is a rich old bitch with nice tits.

I wouldn't say they were nice, only that you were aware of them, but way too old for me but the money is good so what the heck. There would have to be fringies.

Nice tits?

If pendulous is yer bag, perhaps.

On the other hand, Spud thinks that "Fancypants" Nancy Pelousy has a really nice smile!

/Ha! Deth is JokerSpud!

Be Well.

Gimme-a-Scotch

It is supposed to beL

"This is like the pot calling the kettle black".

How is Pelosi qualified to call anyone "a total failure"? She has accomplished nearly nothing and is fast becoming the highest ranking Democrat in the Republican Party.

Pelosi and the Dems have no one to blame but themselves for their low numbers.. They were elected two years ago to end the Bush war, rebuild the economy and free the American people. They have yet to do anything. They could have, and should have. herm

Nancy Pelousy has a really nice smile!

See what Botox does if you keep at it!

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Pelosi "Can't Find My Way Home"

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Pelosi "Can't Find My Way Home"

Cos she's "Near the end" and she "just aint got the time"

Nice find, Bani.

Knopfler and Clapton doing the Blind Faith Classic Cover

Tha's some nice guitar work right there.

Be Well.

Pelosi Calls Bush a Total Failure.

This week Jesse "Jealous" Jackson called both Obabma and his followers, Niggers...

But, speaking of Obama, instead of saying he would "lynch him in a back alley", he just said he was going to "cut his nuts out."

Where was that headline on the Retort?

...not newsworthy, or perhaps I just missed it?

You missed it. That was a drudge headline.

www.drudge.com

www.drudge.com

...the Blind Faith Classic Cover...

Be Well.

Posted by dethspud

Nice post spud, brings back great memories as a freshman at U of Texas in the sixties... I've got the songs on my iPod right here in Shanghai.

I am Well.

Sorry, I missed it... will check it.

I am on a time delay in China and alot of headlines come and go before I get online.

Thanks.

"as a freshman at U of Texas in the sixties"

Damn boy, we may have tossed a Frisbee or something.

Finding total failures in Washington is like shooting fish in a barrel.

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We aint seen nothin yet.

I think it gives Bush an excuse to say he is a failure. He has represented the uber-wealthy and has conducted his class war quite effectively. He has been nearly completely successful in destroying the middle class of the United States. Hopefully, if there is ever a revolution in America he will get his due.


Ain't that like the stove calling the kettle black?

Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch

Actually it is the POT calling the kettle black.

Get your insults correct.

Danni,

He will be safely hiding in S. America by then. Prescott must have learned that one from Adolf.

BTW I just love how the righties wail and squeal that the Dems have not accomplished their agenda when every time the agenda is legislated it is either fillibustered or vetoed.

I can still hear the squeal of the right wing piggies about "up and down" votes over and over and over again. Funny how that now they are in the minority the fillibuster is their friend and up and down votes... not so much. That is a prime example of the hypocriscy of the right.

726 I hope the Dems will treat the Rethugs as well as the Rethugs treated them next year. They should shut them out of any participation in writing legislation, prevent them from holding hearings, ignore their objections about appointees, etc.
Should Dems be bitter about the past 7-1/2 years?? You bet your ass, America ought to be real bitter and vindictive to the party of class war.

........Pelosi.........

......a spineless enabler to Bush's debacle......

What is congress' latest approval rating?

How is Pelosi qualified to call anyone "a total failure"?

When it comes to Bush, even Herbert Hoover and George Custer could call him a failure. Nancy and Harry are major disappointments who should be replaced after the next election so that somebody competent can make use of their increased majorities in both Houses.

Whether or not Bush is a total failure depends on how you define his goals. If you think his goals involve running the country in such a way that Americans will be safe and prosperous, then he's a disaster. If you define his goals as his making friends richer without regards to the consequences for everyone else, then he's a success.

I'd say he's a success.

"What is congress' latest approval rating?"

Why do you always need a civics lesson? Do you understand the definition of the words cloture and filibuster?

Do you understand the definition of the words cloture and filibuster?

Posted by Danforth

Or perhaps, ineffective...

"Or perhaps, ineffective..."

Setting the record for obstructionism is news. Setting it in less than half the time is historic. Give me 41 Senatorial votes, and lets see how "effective" you are.

That being said, Pelosi & Reid are jagoffs who deserve their failure for lying to us about sending up "clean" bills and instituting paygo.

Pelosi couldn't be more wrong...

Bush is the farthest thing from a failure. He's a total sucess - and I'm not being sarcastic here...

Think about it - he accomplished most of his goals as President.

1. Lowered taxes for the wealthy
2. Concentrated his own powers in the government
3. Became a "War President"
4. Hooked up his buds at Haliburton and those in Oil with historic profits and wealth.
5. Defiantly showed Congress who was in charge.
6. Waged class-warefare against the poor and middle class - Katrina anyone?
7. Began a ME conflict that will keep that area in turmoil for decades - thus keeping oil prices high and supply in the hands of his cronies.

He was the perfect conservative and actually accomplished what he set out to. If you look at it that way, Bush is probably the most successful President in modern history.

Just because his goals are now at odds with 75% of the population, doesn't mean he's a total failure. It just means that those who voted for him - voted against their own interests - are stupid.

Like she has any room to talk, congress has a much lower approval rating, plus Nancy is an idiot, far worse that Bush.

Give me 41 Senatorial votes, and lets see how "effective" you are.

Look I hate the filibuster crap as much as anyone, but if your dealing with a side that says, "FILIBUSTER!!!" on everything, I would prefer that you find some sort of compromise with that side instead of just whining and crying, "they won't let us." Repubs were just as guilty a few years ago as Dems are today... but the Dems are in charge today, and so far they've been total failures...

Except in getting brain tumors... there they've been astonishingly successful.

"Like she has any room to talk, congress has a much lower approval rating,"

The main reason Congress has such a low approval rating is that the majority of us wanted an impeachment and justice. Many don't realize that it's impossible with the slim majority so they just blame Congress. Probably should have just cut off the funds in '06 and let the chips fall where they may but unfortunately many thought that would jeopardize the safety of the troops in Iraq. Sort of damned if you do and damned if you don't.

"f your dealing with a side that says, "FILIBUSTER!!!" on everything, I would prefer that you find some sort of compromise with that side"

Oh, puh-leeze, the Rs concept of "compromise" the last 6+ years has been "my way or the highway". It's a bit unfair to claim the Dems are "ineffective" when the Rs have not only set the all-time record for obstructionism, but done it at greater than double the pace. The majority clamoring for "change" is worthless with a determined minority bent on stopping all change.

The majority clamoring for "change" is worthless with a determined minority bent on stopping all change.

Posted by Danforth

That's the fighting spirit we've all come to love and expect from Democrats...

Oh wait, right, you're an Independent... right, sorry, forgot... lol

"Oh wait, right, you're an Independent... right, sorry, forgot... lol"

Reread my posts. You're confusing my disdain for the current so-called Republicans for support of Democrats. Nice try, but all you'll find is a) Dems have a more humane position than Rs on gay rights, and b) Clinton's taking deficits and getting them close to surplusses is better than Bush doing the exact opposite.

I'm also for a balanced budget & small government. Which party claims me?

a) Dems have a more humane position than Rs on gay rights

Humane? Republicans aren't calling for them to be stoned in the streets... they just don't support letting them marry. But here's a newsflash, neither does Obama...

I'm also for a balanced budget & small government. Which party claims me?

Posted by Danforth

Neither anymore...

My problem with Reid is that when the Rethugs threaten to fillibuster he should say...OK fillibuster and make them do the actual physical act of fillibustering and allow the media to cover them doing it for all Americans to watch. Instead they threaten and he backs down like a wimp.

"Republicans aren't calling for them to be stoned in the streets..."

Short memory, huh? Or have you forgotten the "Making Gays Second-Class Citizens" Constitutional Amendment the Rs pass around seemingly every election year?

well said PDAGUY9

Lots of folks want a "small government" but they aren't specific about what they want to eliminate. Personally I want to cut the military budget in half. I don't see any enemy with a military that we need such a huge military to fight. Who is going to attack us in a conventional war??? The military industrial complex has all of us paying them for weapons we will never have a use for.

Life domestically in America was pretty good until 2007. I'm just sayin.

By the way, people are not pissed off at congress about impeachment. We are pissed off about not leaving Iraq (which they could do, but keeping it going gives the Dems more power). We are pissed off about inaction on rising energy prices and the magical new technology that doesn't seem to be anywhere in sight but is "just around the corner" that they keep blathering about. We are pissed off about having an opportunity to do something right, but some unnamed Dem bitching about the physical unattractiveness about the solution. We are pissed off about us burning our fuel sources and the government contributing to the problem of higher food costs. We are pissed off that our reps are bought be corporations and special interest groups. They don't listen to us anymore. We are pissed off that "We the people..." is getting turned into "We the governors with power over the people..." We are pissed off about obstruction from the government to allow ourselves to create a better life for ourselves. More government only causes problems and never provides solutions, but none of those assholes in Washington get that because all they care about is the power and what that means for them.

"But here's a newsflash, neither does Obama..."

I think if you check you'll find very few politicians support gay marriage because it it too much or a lightning rod for right wing attacks. It doesn't indicate any sincere feelings about the subject in most cases though. I think that most politicians really don't give a crap one way or the other about it, well at least the ones who aren't crazy.

"Life domestically in America was pretty good until 2007."

Yeah, until the housing bubble burst because the Fed finally raised interest rates to a more realistic level. Up til then the economy just ran on equity borrowing against equity that was over inflated because of artificially low interest rates thanks to Dubya's buddy Greenspan who should be serving time in Leavenworth.


"Republicans aren't calling for them to be stoned in the streets..."


Short memory, huh?

Posted by Danforth

Apparently... could I see some quotes?

"I think the gays should be stoned in the streets"

John McCain

They should stay home in their living rooms if they want to get stoned.

I'm also for a balanced budget & small government. Which party claims me?

Posted by Danforth at 2008-07-18 09:31 AM

Not one dem that I know of... but there are a few .... DAMN FEW...repubs.

They then cancel themselves out because... those DAMN few want to tell you what to do in the privacy of your own home.

Life domestically in America was pretty good until 2007. I'm just sayin.

Why isn't it now? I'm being 100% honest, I don't know anyone who is struggling right now... Sure everyone agrees fuel costs are high, but oh well... we've all (like most Americans probably) adjusted our lives accordingly.

Other then that, things are still pretty good for most everyone...


"I think the gays should be stoned in the streets"


John McCain

Posted by truthhurts

Fair enough...

Pelosi is the last one from whom I want to hear any opinions on Bush.

I don't have the words to describe how I feel about her.

Maybe this person does.

Democrats have a commonsense plan to help bring down skyrocketing gas prices by cracking down on price gouging, rolling back the billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies, tax breaks and royalty relief given to big oil and gas companies, and increasing production of alternative fuels.--

Nancy Pelosi

Fail.

www.huffingtonpost.com


well except for the 1/4 million americans who lost their homes in May

except for those who have lost 25% or more on their retirement savings

except for those who are paying twice as much on fuel, therefore preventing them from spending otherwise disposable income on "luxuries"

except for those thousands losing their jobs

except for those paying way more on food

etc

etc

etc

yep everything is JUST fine

"few politicians support gay marriage because it it too much or a lightning rod for right wing attacks"

So they are afraid to debate/argue with/attack/whatever you want to call it with the other party?

Being a bunch of submissive ninnies hasn't done the DNC any good lately.

Maybe this person does.


Posted by Hagbard_Celine

Maybe, but only if it will get her more money and fame... Silver linings to dead sons and all that stuff...

Pelosi and Reid are crooked, wrong, and are more to blame than President Bush. Harry Reid is a complete buffoon. Yep, President Bush is certainly not a great president, but then again he is not the sole reason we're in the mess we're in. Congress can certainly share quite a bit of the blame as well.

BTW, how many attacks has the US experienced in the last 7 years?

The US- attack free since September 12, 2001, thanks to the Bush administration.

"Being a bunch of submissive ninnies hasn't done the DNC any good lately."

Posted by Sully

Don't tell them that, they think its the path to the whitehouse.

"Maybe, but only if it will get her more money and fame... Silver linings to dead sons and all that stuff..."

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

I disagree... it might be how you would act under her circumstances, but I don't get that from her at all.

"The US- attack free since September 12, 2001, thanks to the Bush administration."

You're forgetting the Anthrax attacks in DC.

And the fact US embassies are considered to be part of the US.

well accept for Iraq, anthrax, attacks on our embassies, afghanistan, other than THOSE attacks, thanks

it might be how you would act under her circumstances, but I don't get that from her at all.

Posted by Hagbard_Celine

True or False the campaign she waged after the death of her son has made her rich and famous, and may make her a congressman?

You're forgetting the Anthrax attacks in DC.

If that was a terrorist attack shouldn't the DC Sniper killings be called terrorist attacks too? I don't see Anthrax as a terrorist attack, but in even if you do, its doubtful it was carried out by Muslims, and thats pretty much what people on the right are talking about when they say no terrorist attacks since 2001...

You're forgetting the Anthrax attacks in DC.


And the fact US embassies are considered to be part of the US.

Posted by Danforth

YAWN. Anything new Danforth - Maybe that was what BO was considering the 51-57 states - US embassies.

So by your logic, we had more terrorist attacks under Willy than under Bush?

yes, picking and choosing intelligence to make their case is what they are good at.

So using that same logic would it also be correct to say that the US was terrorist attack-free from 1993 - 2001? Didn't Bill Clinton keep us safe for the same length of time by that criteria?

It is a meaningless statistic.

True or False the campaign she waged after the death of her son has made her rich and famous, and may make her a congressman?

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Even if it has put money in her pocket (and I'll be suspicious of your "millioinaire" characterization sans some evidence), you really think that was her reasoning behind sitting outside the crawford ranch for how long was it, 5 weeks in the summer heat of texas? There was no way for her to know that things would turn out the way they did.

And so what if it makes her a congressman... congress is filled with people who got their for even less worthy reasons (dead husband works too - i.e. sonny bono, for example).

you really think that was her reasoning behind sitting outside the crawford ranch for how long was it, 5 weeks in the summer heat of texas?

I didn't see any other direct family members there with her...

There was no way for her to know that things would turn out the way they did.

Just a lucky break then I guess...

Whatever. The US (and what I mean is the 50 US states) have not had a terrorist attack comparable to the attack on September 11. Okay, time to parse my words even further to prove your trivial points. Doesn't matter. You Libs know what I mean. We haven't had 3000 people die lately. That better? I guess you could argue that any time there's a murder that could be a terrorist attack. So, go ahead and spew your hate. Machts Nichts. I love this country and have respect for our president and past presidents regardless of what side of the aisle they are on. When Obama is president, I'll respect him as well even though I completely disagree with him. But we need civil discourse and not hatred and loathing. But I digress. I still contend that the US has not been under attack as it was on 9/11. Unless you count all the hatred by the liberals and the extreme left.

Does anyone not realize that the sheer hatred is killing us as a society? Geez... disagree, maybe, but the hatred is just sad.

It is a meaningless statistic.

Posted by SanAntonioRogue

Now there we agree...

Although, I would be curious to see, if the records existed, how many potential attacks were stopped during those 7 year periods...

I remember the Millenium Bomber from the Clinton Admin as a high profile capture because of what he was planning... maybe its just because its more recent and current events but I can rattle off more from this admin then the previous.

We haven't had 3000 people die lately.


nope just over 4100 in iraq and hundreds in afghanistan

Unless you count all the hatred by the liberals and the extreme left.


your idea of civil discourse?

and hundreds in afghanistan

Posted by truthhurts

Not politically relevant enough for you to only know the exact number huh? Knowing that number doesn't score points on a Blog...

Fake Outrage meter just exploded...

"its doubtful it was carried out by Muslims, and thats pretty much what people on the right are talking about when they say no terrorist attacks "

So it's only terrorism when it's perpetrated by Muslims? WTF?!?

Using that "logic", McVeigh wasn't a terrorist because he wasn't a Muslim.

Rather than pointing out that Bush is even worse than she (which is open to debate, see above). Why doesn't she do something. She and Ried and this Dem congress are pathetic. They run around saying that Bush is worse or Bush should be impeached, while the poor of this country suffer under the high cost of energy and food. How pathetic. Do something... If they do not do anything other than point out how the other guy has failed, in my mind that makes them even worse.

im sorry 582 are you happy now doucheface?

correction 556

"Fake Outrage meter just exploded..."

Much like the fake Terrorist Threat Alerts that were issued at key political moments during this Administration? Even Tom Ridge finally had to admit that he felt they were misused.

" its doubtful it was carried out by Muslims, and thats pretty much what people on the right are talking about when they say no terrorist attacks since 2001..."

you mean nobody with camels as their family ride sitting in front of their dirt house, carried out any attacks

so bush did a good job at stopping the poorest least equipped "terrorists"

i mean even 911 was carried out with box cutters.

not laser weapons or sophisticated bomb technology.

as crude as possible.

even the machine guns the "terrorists" use are crude replicas of ak47's that are hand made.

good job bush.

mean while the sophisticited terrorists should be ignored behind the curtains.

even chertoff said european terrorists are trying to get in to the usa. those guys have REAL weapons.

""The US- attack free since September 12, 2001, thanks to the Bush administration."


Our military invasion of Afghanistan and the destruction of Al Quaeda base camps etc. probably has helped make America safer and I think most of us supported that effort and still do. However, the disgusting LIES perpetrated on America to bring Iraq also into the "War on Terror" have not served to make America safer and have cost 4100 American soldiers their lives, and us taxpayers will be saddled with about 3 trillion dollars of debt because of it. That part is criminal and Bush should be impeached for it. Funny thing, in an impeachment hearing and trial, the things a president does which aren't criminal are irrelevant, only the things he/she does that are criminal are relevant. So pretending that since we haven't been attacked somehow gives Bush/Cheney a pass on the lies and incompetence which surround the Iraq invasion just doesn't get it.

If Bush and Cheney were lying about the Iraq intel, than so were a lot of other people. They, Hillary, Bill, John Kerry and many others were not lying when they ALL said that Saddam must be removed because he was an imminent threat. They may have all been mistaken, but if we're going to start impeaching, you better be consistent.

So it's only terrorism when it's perpetrated by Muslims? WTF?!?

We declared war on Arab Muslim Terrorism (and a little bit of the Asian Muslims too) so in this context, yeah... kind of.

After 9/11 did you really think the country wouldn't be attacked again by muslims?

So it's only terrorism when it's
perpetrated by Muslims? WTF?!?

Using that "logic", McVeigh wasn't a
terrorist because he wasn't a Muslim.

There's a difference. I don't think anyone can argue that McVeigh was an isolated incident while there are many incidents of Radical Islam trying to kill us or harm us over and over.

I believe that our current administration has helped keep these attacks out of the US.

mean while the sophisticited terrorists should be ignored behind the curtains.

Well I'm shocked... the DR's Muslim, doesn't want us attacking Muslims... Shocked I tell you, shocked!

Unless you count all the hatred
by the liberals and the extreme left.

your idea of civil discourse?

Sure. It's a fact that there is much hatred on the left. I'm stating that if you read these threads, you'll see a lot of extreme hatred towards President Bush. Not just disagreement. Hatred.

"Well I'm shocked... the DR's Muslim, doesn't want us attacking Muslims... Shocked I tell you, shocked!"

actually i'm all about fighting the taliban is afghanistan

nice try though :)

i was just pointing out that terrorist actions HAVE taken place in the usa. just not by "muslim terrorists"

so bush did succeed in stopping the least organized and least sophisticated terrorists but not the most sophisticated internal terrorists.


If Bush and Cheney were lying about the Iraq intel, than so were a lot of other people. They, Hillary, Bill, John Kerry and many others were not lying when they ALL said that Saddam must be removed because he was an imminent threat. They may have all been mistaken, but if we're going to start impeaching, you better be consistent.

Posted by humanear at


sure NP, ROBERT BYRD for president@

the thought that another attack on the US is the bell weather of whether bush is successful or not is patently ridiculous. The goal is not to attack us but to make us do what they want, you know like get us out of Saudi Arabia check, drain our military check, destroy our economy check.

you all are so far behind it must look to you like youare ahead

Sure. It's a fact that there is much hatred on the left. I'm stating that if you read these threads, you'll see a lot of extreme hatred towards President Bush. Not just disagreement. Hatred.

Posted by humanear


guess it comes from being called a terrorist loving traitor to my country. one tends to become sensitive after that

of course what are the proper feelings to have towards someone who lies us into a war, tortures, takes our civil rights away, spies on us, raids the treasury, and stands for everything we despise in human nature?

i mean even 911 was carried out with box cutters.
Posted by klifferd

They brought down the towers with box cutters? Wow those camel jockeys sure are skilled with sharp weapons.

So the flight training they completed was still low tech. I am sure they never used a computer to check flight scedules et al.

Big Red Dog, these guys are extrememly well funded and use what works. High tech - low tech, does not really matter. What high tech stuff did McVeigh use?

You are too much an apologist for the Tuskan raiders. Who cares what they used - they killed innocent people at work.

And the Europeeing terrorists you refer to - big guess what religion they follow. Just another tribe in a different location.

Bin Laden said 10 years ago, one of his goals was to get oil to $144 a barrel.

Terrorist "watch" list hit 1,000,000.

FISA, torture, wiretapping.

Congrats.

"They hate us for our Freedoms."

Fixed that, didn't ya Bushies?

the thought that another attack on
the US is the bell weather of whether
bush is successful or not is patently
ridiculous.


Oh, I don't know. I kind of like not being dead. I'm not contending that President Bush has been an overwhelming success as president, but I'm contending that a) I'm pretty sure that many potential attacks have been thwarted because of the current administration's policies, and b) the left has pretty much been completely unreasonable in their attempt to destroy the man because they're still angry over losing in 2000. It's just obvious that that they just can't get over Al Gore losing. And John Kerry losing.

completely unreasonable in their attempt to destroy the man because they're still angry over losing in 2000

Not me. I want to see Bush and his crew rotting in prison for what he's done as President. I didn't have any malice towards him at the start of his grand adventure. He's earned ever drop of contempt he's received.

guess it comes from being called a
terrorist loving traitor to my country.
one tends to become sensitive after that

Who called you that? I don't recall the President ever using those words. You feeling guilty? :-)

of course what are the proper feelings to have towards someone who lies us into a war, tortures, takes our civil rights away, spies on us, raids the treasury, and stands for everything we despise in human nature?

Hm... I don't recall having my civil rights violated, but okay. I haven't been spied on lately, and I would submit that this whole line of yours is completely inaccurately. So, I guess you can go ahead and hate all you want and while you can before Evil George takes that right away from you as well. :-)

bush had an approval rating up in the 90's after 9/11

His actions brought it down to the teens

it is ludicrous to think that a democrat couldnt have achieved what he achieved in the past 7 years

Not me. I want to see Bush and his
crew rotting in prison for what he's
done as President.


Well, of course you do! Well, since there have been no charges filed as of yet, you might be waiting a while. But you and Kucinich (sp?) are in total agreement!

it is ludicrous to think that a
democrat couldnt have achieved what
he achieved in the past 7 years

A democrat HAS achivied what he achieved! Have you see the approval ratings of Congress? They surpassed what he achieved!

"I'm pretty sure that many potential attacks have been thwarted because of the current administration's policies... Posted by Humanear"

Probably true. There have also been quite a few that were played up as big plots thwarted that turned out to be bogus. Like...

"On July 7 (2006), authorities said they had thwarted a terrorist plot to flood lower Manhattan by attacking train tunnels under the Hudson River used by tens of thousands of commuters. Eight suspects -- including an al-Qaida loyalist arrested in Lebanon and two others in custody elsewhere -- had hoped to pull off the attack in October or November, federal officials said."

I'm sure you remember the big deal made out of that one.

But it was a fake perpetrated by "a jeweler, apparently bent on revenge against his former business associates, was arrested Monday for allegedly reporting a bogus plot to bomb the New York subways last July 4.

The false report launched an intense and costly terrorist investigation which stretched as far as Israel, as more than 40 investigators conducted 24-hour surveillance and other covert techniques trying to track down fictitious terrorists."


Who called you that? I don't recall the President ever using those words. You feeling guilty? :-)


TH: You havent been paying attention, shall I find quotes from this administration about criticism helping the enemy? about electing a democrate POTUS would help the enemy about how talking with Iran is appeasement,etc. sorry but you seem ignorant of the facts.


Hm... I don't recall having my civil rights violated, but okay. I haven't been spied on lately, and I would submit that this whole line of yours is completely inaccurately. So, I guess you can go ahead and hate all you want and while you can before Evil George takes that right away from you as well. :-)

TH: well you havent been paying attention. your civil right to habeaus corpus is now at the whim of the POTUS, your right to a speedy trial, ditto, etc. Your right to privacy and unreasonable search and siezure, ditto. I am sorry if you are either ignorant of the facts or incapable of understanding the impact of bush's actions. These are not theoretical but real changes to our way of life.


A democrat HAS achivied what he achieved! Have you see the approval ratings of Congress? They surpassed what he achieved!

Posted by humanear

the executive branch is a separate part of the federal govt. apples and oranges. dems in congress have to work with (contend?, fight? deal?,etc) the republicans

HumanEar, can you please attempt to be relevant?

Now, Now, YAV. If you don't like my opinions or what I'm posting, GWB hasn't taken away your right to not respond to me or ignore my posts. yet.

the executive branch is a separate
part of the federal govt. apples
and oranges. dems in congress have
to work with (contend?, fight?
deal?,etc) the republicans

While that's true, they still have a majority. The Dems choose what does or doesn't get to the floor for debate or vote.

And just for the record, the whole Congress is completely ignoring the issues that they're constituents would like them to address. Hence the low approval rating. Reps and Dems both are directly and blatantly screwing us every step of the way.

I hope this comment was relevant enough.

well I do agree with that statement

Truth,

We do have common ground. and whether or not we agree on what direction we should take, congress has done us no favors. No action is the worst thing we can do. If we as Americans could just incorporate successfully a third party it might make the other two parties just a little less comfortable.

you see there is common ground, not the no action is better but the third party thing. deadlock is often better than producing policies that harm america see 2001 to 2006.

I see your point, but on the other hand we see that mistakes have been made. Yep, by the White house , by congress, and by politician in general. But don't mistakes allow us to learn what works, what doesn't work and what needs to be done at this point? I really don't think that any damage is irreparable. There have also been policies that have had positive effects as well. We can focus on the mistakes, or we can learn from them, change the policies that don't work and continue with the policies that work.

Inaction never solved anything. Failure is okay and needed in order to achieve success. right? Or are you not with me on this one?

Sorry, humanear, but the Congressional approval rating is a meaningless factoid. Doubt that? Then answer these 2 questions:

1. Will there be more Democrats in the next House and Senate?

2. Will 95%+ of incumbents be re-elected?

If you answered "yes" to those questions then you've demonstrated why the current Congressional approval rating is meaningless.

Now, it this were shaping up to be another 1994 or 2006, then the Congressional approval rating might mean something.

As for this election, it doesn't.

"you are too much an apologist"

i'm sorry dude that the truth hurts

but those guys used low tech. box cutters to take over the flight. no guns. no bombs.


and all they learned from flight school was how to steer.

and again.. who am i an apologist for?

the use of the word apologist is overused and not understood.

it seems to me that you are apologizing for the massive failures of airline security and air space security over manhattan.

besides according to chertoff, those european terrorists may not be muslim because the statement was a response to why there are so many "non muslim" names on the terrorist watch list.

again nice try to make the world seem so black and white

its not

its way more complicated

and this thread is about the unfortunate position of someone who doesn't understand this. GWB


i'm not appologizing. i'm stating the fact that this extremist situation which has grown since gwb has not been taken care of in any sort of intelligent planned manner.


yes low tech or high tech terrorism is still bad.

but all gwb has done has made sure guys with box cutters can't get on planes anymore. and that people making international calls can't talk to their terrorist buddies.

i hope i'm wrong, but i've seen no proof that we are prepared for another attack from someone thinking out side of the box. excuse my pun.


And first female ever to hold the position too.

Posted by CalifChris at 2008-07-17 11:45 PM | Reply

I agree, Chris. Girls should not be given places of authority.

even Herbert Hoover and George Custer could call him a failure.

Posted by northguy3 at 2008-07-18 08:58 AM | Reply

You once again display an incredible ignorance of American history. Neither Hoover or Custer were failures -- quite the opposite.

But wait! You're not an American are you? You are ONLY a Canadian, so your easy comfort only exists because of the United States

and like any spoiled child, you fail to appreciate what is done for you

"Neither Hoover or Custer were failures -- quite the opposite."

Huh????

Depression of 1929 and Little Big Horn. Both disasters caused by utter failures.

"Neither Hoover or Custer were failures"

Well having grown up about an hour away from the scene of Custer's final failure, I would have to disagree.

Custer graduated last in his class at West Point

Promoted to General because of patron, not command experience or ability

Court Martialed and suspended for being AWOL

Refused to wait for additional support from Gen. Terry at Little Big Horn and led his troops into a massacre

More?

hoover.. some intelligent agency head.

he thought mlk was a commie


wait do we have hoovers bday off?

;)

The "wicked witch of the west" rides on her high broom again. Couple that with the other clown running the Senate who called the President a loser at some grade school and you have the perfect exacta. Which according to the approval ratings is about $9.00. She does know who has been in power the last 18 months right? She and the Dems do have some culpability for the econimic downturn right? She will figure out blaming Bush and the right don't accomplish anything right? She should know what lies her party used to gain power and at least try and fulfill one promise right?

Or is she pandering to her freaks from San Fran who are renaming a sewage plant after Bush? Glad all you clowns on the left have a such a high standard for leadership and defend this cosmetic surgery ridden hag.

This woman was sitting in the briefings the President gave on the intelligence concerning Iraq. She knew the situation, at that time, and sat on her hands.


The Democrats have been in the cat-bird seat for over two years and accomplished NOTHING. So what are we going to do? Elect more of these birds to do nothing! Exceptionally good idea, seems this is what we do every two years or so.

She SAID no bill will be introduced to approve a production increase in OIL, what more do you want to hear? I guess we should keep getting these checks for $600 every three month to help pay for our gas and heating bills. The Republicans want to drill as part of a complete energy policy, the Democrats don't. Which one will get you to your next job without a problem, and what, pray tell, will get us from dependency on oil to the alternative sources coming on line in 10 - 20 years? Oh my God, it's OIL!

Let's see, don't use OIL from the United States, nor COAL from the United States, nor OIL from shale, nor NUCLEAR energy, and this list gets longer every day. Let's use ETHYNOL, which can't be pipe-lined cause it's to caustic/corrosive and will contaminate our ground water and other bio-fuels, which will take 15 - 20 years to develop and refine.

Everythng mentioned above to get us CLOSER to energy independence WAS proposed by President Bush just after he was elected for the FIRST time, and shot down by the DEMOCRATS.

"She and the Dems do have some culpability for the econimic downturn right?"

Perhaps you would be kind enough to explain how they are culpable....what have they done or not done which has resulted in our economic plight???

Promoted to General because of patron, not command experience or ability

Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2008-07-18 12:52 PM

www.militaryhistoryonline.com

Custer's rise in the Union Army during the Civil War can only be described as meteoric. After graduating last in the West Point Class of 1861 he quickly gained the attention of senior Union officers for his bravery and energy in combat. McClellan plucked him from the 5th U.S. Cavalry Regiment to serve on his staff. With this high-level visibility Custer soon became a favorite of Alfred Pleasonton, the Commander of the Cavalry of the Army of the Potomac. In July of 1863, trying to inject more energy into the cavalry, Pleasonton promoted three of the brightest staff officers, Captains Wesley Merritt (age 29), Elon Farnsworth (age 27), and George Custer (age 24), to Brevet Brigadier General. Along with this promotion came command of cavalry brigades. Thus, at an age when today's Army officers are being promoted to 1st Lieutenant, George Armstrong Custer became a general.

The young officer immediately made his mark. He fought and won a small action on his first day in command. A few days later he and his "Wolverines" (the brigade's regiments were all from Michigan) fought a successful action against Jeb Stewart near Gettysburg, protecting the Union flank during that decisive battle. In these initial actions Custer had demonstrated guts and determination, but it initially was his personality that initially made him stand out.

Continued...
And they earned their celebrity. In 1864 at Newby's Station, Todd's Tavern, and during Sheridan's Richmond Raid, the Michigan Brigade and Custer distinguished themselves. At the Battle of Trevilian Station Custer routed the Confederates with a bold charge. Another of his bold, mounted charges at the important Battle of Yellow Tavern was crucial to the major victory won that day by the Union Cavalry over the Confederate Cavalry. In fact, it was just after this charge that one of Custer's men shot and mortally wounded the fabled Confederate Cavalry leader Jeb Stuart. And after most of the Army of the Potomac's Cavalry was transferred with their new commander, General Philip Sheridan, to the Shenandoah Valley, Custer played a pivotal role in the Federal victory at the Battle of The Opequon (3d Winchester), as his brigade was one that helped envelop the Confederate left.

Thus, there was little surprise when in late September, 1864, Custer was promoted to command the 3d Cavalry Division of Sheridan's Army of the Shenandoah. His first test as a division commander came quickly. In a brilliantly conducted maneuver on 19 October 1864 the Confederate Jubal Early attacked and surprised the Union Army of the Shenandoah near Cedar Creek, Virginia. The Rebels quickly routed two of the three Union infantry corps, but the third Union corps (the VI) and the Cavalry Corps refused to be stampeded. They eventually succeeded in bringing the Confederate advance to a halt, and Custer's Division was prominent in stabilizing the Union defense. It checked a Confederate cavalry thrust to the Union rear and fought defensively first on one flank and then the other. Philip Sheridan, who had been away from the Army at the time of the attack, famously galloped his charger back to the battlefield, rallied his troops, and organized a counterattack. Custer's Division formed the right flank of the Union formation and broke the line of the elite Rebel division of John B. Gordon. Custer's troopers then spearheaded an exploitation that completely routed Early's force.

The difference this day was Custer and his ability to see the battlefield and employ his forces with a tactical virtuosity that still seems astonishing. This performance certainly puts Custer in a class with the greatest cavalry tacticians that the United States has produced

Of course, Custer will always be most remembered for the day on the Little Big Horn when his eye for the battlefield and his tactical instincts failed him. But that was a different day and a different enemy. Any balanced appraisal of Custer as a soldier must remember what he did in March, 1865.

Yeah San a real fucking loser wasn't he?

Crispee, I was already aware of Custer's career but unfortunately a General is judged by the last massacre he leads his troops into. All the previous success in the world won't change that.

wait do we have hoovers bday off?


;)

Posted by klifferd

Do we have Washington's or Lincoln's or for that matter JFK's? What about Jefferson or Franklin?

"Everythng mentioned above to get us CLOSER to energy independence WAS proposed by President Bush just after he was elected for the FIRST time, and shot down by the DEMOCRATS."

ER...just how did a minority "shoot down" a proposal by a president who enjoyed a majority in both houses of Congress????
Rewriting history again???

"George Armstrong Custer was elevated to the rank of General by a battlefied commission during the Civil War. He had emerged from West Point at the bottom of his class where he had amassed a huge number of demerits. His success in the Civil War might be attributed to his unorthodox methods and the wild charges he led with no concern for the scouting reports, if he ever read them. He had the highest casualty figures among the Union division commanders. However, he himself emerged unscathed.

In 1867 he was brought up on charges of abandoning his command (to visit his wife) and having (other) deserters shot on the spot, sans hearing. He was convicted, on both counts, and sentenced to a year's suspension from rank and pay, including forfeiture of salary. But 10 months later he was reinstated by General Sheridan to lead the campaign against the Southern Cheyenne in Oklahoma Territory."

"It was in Oklahoma that the unusual strategy of a winter campaign would be tried, to catch the Indians when they had become immobile, in their winter camps. The culmination of this campaign was the massacre of Black Kettle's Southern Cheyennes in the Battle of the Washita, November 27, 1868, with 103 Cheyennes dead in the mud and snow. The animals were all slaughtered, at Custer's order. All captured possessions were burned.

Custer's luck had held. He had had no scouting done before the dawn attack and had no knowledge that thousands of other southern plains Indians were in the immediate area. The effect of this was a result, the small detachment led by Major Joel Elliot, which had ridden off in pursuit of escaping Indians, was wiped out. Custer returned to his post without even searching for these men. Their fate was not discovered for two weeks until their remains were chanced upon. However, Custer had a way of making himself a public hero, and therefore difficult to control by his superiors."

Pelosi needs to look in the mirror--

pot meet kettle..

Perhaps you would be kind enough to explain how they are culpable....what have they done or not done which has resulted in our economic plight???

Posted by danni at 2008-07-18 01:22 PM

Why don't you tell me? You are the expert on the Dems. You were the one pushing for control of both Houses. What have they fucking done? Other than cry about the Repubs taking the ball and going home? This is what you and the other morons lied, slandered, mis-represented for power to run the United States a couple of years ago? There is no doubt had the Repubs remained in charge and we still face the same economic conditions, who's heads you would be calling for.


Crispee, I was already aware of Custer's career but unfortunately a General is judged by the last massacre he leads his troops into. All the previous success in the world won't change that.

Posted by danni at 2008-07-18 01:29 PM

Spoke by the model of the shortsighted, ignorant left.

Washington's or Lincoln's or for that matter JFK's? What about Jefferson or Franklin


they all got their faces on money
even jfk

i think p diddy wrote a song about franklin


"its all about the benjamins"

No American military figure is more controversial than George Armstrong Custer. A general and national hero in his twenties, his fabled death at the Battle of the Little Big Horn only increased his legendary status among his countrymen. But history can be fickle, and history lately has not treated the "boy general" well. His reputation has changed from grand, courageous hero to despised war criminal. Indeed, for many his persona now embodies the sins of United States policy toward Native Americans. Hollywood's portrayal of Custer is quite revealing. In the 1930's he was the gallant hero portrayed by Errol Flynn in "They Died with Their Boots On." But by the 1960's he was the despicable, racist, idiot of "Little Big Man."

Why am I surprised which side of history Sans and danni are on?

I'm sure its safer and less threatening for you to live in a world where everything is just wonderful, and your matinee idols are heros without flaw, Crispee. But there is a real world out there, and it ain't always as pretty and tidy as you'd like it to be.

Crispee you were the one who tried to blame the Dems for the economic situation of today, surely you have reasons, facts to support that contention, you wouldn't just make a meaningless partisan accusation that doesn't really make any sense....would you???
So,,, come on, your reasons????

I can easily give you a list of how the Republicans created this mess and I said so when they were busily doing it, and I have repeated those reasons over and over and over here as you should be aware.


I'm sure its safer and less threatening for you to live in a world where everything is just wonderful, and your matinee idols are heros without flaw, Crispee. But there is a real world out there, and it ain't always as pretty and tidy as you'd like it to be.

Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2008-07-18 01:49 PM

Which has nothing to do with anything as usual. A matinee idol? What do you call your Boy Wonder? A hero without flaw the way you lick his ass and defend him to the end. Regardless of the evidence and what He himself says.

Crispee you were the one who tried to blame the Dems for the economic situation of today

Posted by danni at 2008-07-18 01:56 PM

She and the Dems do have some culpability for the econimic downturn right?
Posted by crispee_oc at 2008-07-18 01:20 PM

Can you really be this fucking stupid? Hire someone to read seeing as you are unable. Maybe in spanish like your hero wants you to learn. You have proven you can't read english.

"Can you really be this fucking stupid? Hire someone to read seeing as you are unable. Maybe in spanish like your hero wants you to learn. You have proven you can't read english."

I got you Crispee, you don't have an answer, you could have simply said that you know. Next time just say:
"I'm sorry Danni, I made a wild accusation against the Dems that doesn't make any sense because I am a crazy right wing partisan hack."

Ok?

Two quotes by Nancy Pelosi:

Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.
Nancy Pelosi


The president led us into the Iraq war on the basis of unproven assertions without evidence; he embraced a radical doctrine of pre-emptive war unprecedented in our history; and he failed to build a true international coalition.
Nancy Pelosi

Okay, Nancy, which is it?

When does Nancy's impeachment proceeding begin?

More from Nancy:

CNN ran a report this afternoon with the headline: "Record Anger At Congress." The network quoted Nancy Pelosi agreeing with this thesis, saying:

"I know that Congress has low approval ratings. I don't approve of Congress because we haven't done anything."

Danni?

"What do you call your Boy Wonder? A hero without flaw the way you lick his ass and defend him to the end. Posted by crispee_oc"

Childish AND churlish.

Definitely family values:

* Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)
* Voted YES on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
* Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
* Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)
* Voted NO on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mothers life. (Oct 2003)
* Voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)
* Voted NO on funding for health providers who don't provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)
* Voted NO on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)
* Voted NO on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)
* Voted NO on banning partial-birth abortions. (Apr 2000)
* Voted NO on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)
* Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record. (Dec 2003)
* Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance. (Dec 2006)
* Supported funding contraception and UN family planning. (Jul 1999)

Can you really be this fucking stupid?

Thanks for proving my point. Instead of READING the post you shove your foot in your mouth. Twice in two posts no less.

She and the Dems do have some culpability for the econimic downturn right?
Posted by crispee_oc at 2008-07-18 01:20 PM

Does this look like I blamed the dems as you ignorantly asked? Do you try to be this obtuse? Or does it come natural?

To Humanear and the rest of the right. Stop pissing into the wind about Pelosi (and Reid). In case you haven't noticed, nobody here on the left defends them, many of us have expressed dissatisfaction and exasperation with their job performance, and some, including myself, have expressed a desire that both be replaced next year.

Aipac's No. 1 gal, too ~ go Custer:>)

What do you call your Boy Wonder? A hero without flaw the way you lick his ass and defend him to the end. Posted by crispee_oc"


Childish AND churlish.

Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2008-07-18 02:23 PM

How about foolish, partisan, blind, low standards for the POTUS... Why else would you support Obama.

Nancy on Immigration:

* Voted NO on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
* Voted NO on preventing tipping off Mexicans about Minuteman Project. (Jun 2006)
* Voted NO on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment. (May 2004)
* Voted YES on extending Immigrant Residency rules. (May 2001)
* Voted YES on more immigrant visas for skilled workers. (Sep 1998)
* Rated 0% by FAIR, indicating a voting record loosening immigration. (Dec 2003)
* Comprehensive immigration reform without amnesty. (May 2005)
* Rated 0% by USBC, indicating an open-border stance. (Dec 2006)

nancy on Taxes:

# Voted NO on retaining reduced taxes on capital gains & dividends. (Dec 2005)
# Voted NO on providing tax relief and simplification. (Sep 2004)
# Voted NO on making permanent an increase in the child tax credit. (May 2004)
# Voted NO on permanently eliminating the marriage penalty. (Apr 2004)
# Voted NO on making the Bush tax cuts permanent. (Apr 2002)
# Voted NO on $99 B economic stimulus: capital gains & income tax cuts. (Oct 2001)
# Voted NO on Tax cut package of $958 B over 10 years. (May 2001)
# Voted NO on eliminating the Estate Tax ("death tax"). (Apr 2001)
# Voted NO on eliminating the "marriage penalty". (Jul 2000)
# Voted NO on $46 billion in tax cuts for small business. (Mar 2000)
# American People's Dividend: Give $300 to every person. (Feb 2001)
# Rated 21% by NTU, indicating a "Big Spender" on tax votes. (Dec 2003)
# Rated 100% by the CTJ, indicating support of progressive taxation. (Dec 2006)

"When does Nancy's impeachment proceeding begin?"

Excuse me but I have been criticizing Nancy Pelosi for a very long time now. I oppose her reelection as Speaker and even as a Congressman. Her lack of leadership has been obvious but....even if that were not true the balance in the SEnate is such that nothing of consequence can pass without Republican approval and they have purposely blocked nearly everything the Dems have tried to accomplish.

Excuse me but I have been criticizing Nancy Pelosi for a very long time now. I oppose her reelection as Speaker and even as a Congressman. Her lack of leadership has been obvious but....even if that were not true the balance in the SEnate is such that nothing of consequence can pass without Republican approval and they have purposely blocked nearly everything the Dems have tried to accomplish.


Posted by danni at 2008-07-18 02:35 PM

Yet you strive for a 100% democrat Congress. You claim anyone on the right is evil and corrupt.You have asked all republicans to sit this election out. Do you even believe half of the drivel you post?

Crispee, just because I don't think Pelosi has been forceful enough in pushing a Democratic agenda is hardly a reason for me to abandon that agenda. I want someone to replace Pelosi who will succeed in pushing the Dem agenda and repealing much of what the Republicans have done these past seven years starting with their bankruptcy bill and the Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthy. And yes, I do believe what I post, at least I am consistent and lately it seems quite clear that my thoughts on the economic consequences of those big tax cuts are accurate.
It seems that my thoughts on threatening Iran have been proven accurate and now even Bush is beginning to talk about NEGOTIATIONS, EMBASSIES, ETC. instead of bomb, bomb, bomb. The rapid increase in gas prices should have convinced everyone of the foolishness of threatening to bomb one of the major oil producers in the world.

I was already aware of Custer's career
...
Posted by danni at 2008-07-18 01:29 PM | Reply

What a total fucking liar. You had no idea about Custer's career. You knew 11 words about him, hence your stupid and ignorant post.

Hoover was responsible for the Depression the same way that Clinton was responsible for balanced budgets: Not.

The world economy is complicated. Too complicated for you to have an opinion about anything other than what kind of pizza you will order today, and how to stiff the delivery guy because you think he might be a Conservative.

"What a total fucking liar."

Oh, so now you know what I know and what I don't know. VErnon, you really are sort of an asshole aren't you???

Question:

Bush may be a f#ckup, but what does that say about the people(including pelosi) who upon comming into power refused to impeach the c#cksucker?

Answer:

Whore...

All this Custer stuff . . .

Custer was an impetuous commander who did experience a "meteoric" rise during the Civil War. As, I should point out, did a gazillion other guys who were wandering around for years afterwards trying to milk some juice from their brevet ranks. High casualty rates do wonders for rapid promotion.

In the Plains Indian Wars he was a competetent tactical commander but a terrible leader. His command was always badly fractured and he had a rep for treating many of his men, the grunts, like shit. (That and going AWOL earned him a court-martial.)

At the Little Bighorn he sought intel from his Crow and Arikara scouts, didn't like what they told him about one hell of a big village ahead, went ahead with the attack anyway after dividing his forces and moving around with abosolutely no knowledge of the terrain.

Hubris and a passle of Indians done that boy in.

But consider: Ask for intel. Don't like the intel. Ignore the intel. Then push on ahead with no idea of what lies ahead.

Sound like anyone else you might've heard about?

It seems that my thoughts on threatening Iran have been proven accurate

Is this the same poster who echoed Serymour Hersh the last few years we were going to attack Iran? Is that your accuracy? I bet Cybil was your favorite movie. You seem to have much in common. Not that you were a former beauty queen. Just the multiple personalities.

Why we love Nancy & her 'best friends':>)


ron paul: nancy pelosi pulled iran bill on orders of israel

www.youtube.com

Jon Stewart makes fun of Obama and Aipac
www.youtube.com

Carter: "US Candidates MUST do as Israel says

www.youtube.com

A convergence of investigations: AIPAC and ATC.

www.lookingglassnews.org

BREAKING NEWS : 'Agents Provocateurs' caught in the UK
by Editor on Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:45 pm

George Galloway again catches the establishment trying to smear him. This time using Agents Provocateurs at last week's demonstration against Bush during his visit to London.

George Galloway initially complained to the police about police brutality during the demo. Today we have the very strong allegation of Agents Provocateurs, including naming and showing the photo of one of the London police officers involved.

worldpressnetwork.net

Sharon to Peres: "We Control America"
Congressional Pandering to Israel proves him Right

www.mediamonitors.net

any questions?:>)

Custer's memorial?

www.sogonow.com

Is there anybody apart from his cronies and his family, and I'm not even sure about all of them, who doesn't think Bush has been a total failure?

The useless idiot has screwed our country over in just about every way possible. Even the rightnuts admit it now. They can only comfort themselves by saying Pelosi sucks too.

Pelosi's House and Reid's Senate are 6-10 NFL teams. Bush is the 1976 0-14 Tampa Bay Bucs.

It's called Closure, it's the way a minority in the Senate can change certain legislation. Whatever the majority does, if the minority chooses to object this is how they do it.

The Senate is the only body with this provision, therefore the house can do whatever they want, while the senate has to be cognizant of the opposition.

This is how the Dems thwarted Bush on energy legislation during his first term, and is being used now by the Repubs to attempt to change some legislation they are opposed to.

I think the gays should be stoned in the streets"


John McCain

Posted by truthhurts

ever been to West Hollywood at 2am, Saturday night (Sunday morning)..They ARE stoned in the streets!

Pelosi's face makes a pretty good match for michelle's fat ass.

I have the video where Pelosi agreed to take responsibility for gas prices and bring them down.

That was about "$1.70" ago. Remember in Jan of Feb of 2007...she said the Dem Control would make a difference.


Well is has....that has effected the economy Pelosi. YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!!

"The Democrats have been in the cat-bird seat for over two years and accomplished NOTHING. "

Wow...an admission of ignorance regarding both a calendar and the rules of governance. Impressive.

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