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In a dramatic shift of Bush administration policy, the US plans to establish a diplomatic presence in Tehran, the first step in establishing a full embassy in Iran for the first time since the hostage crisis in 1979.

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FTA: "The Guardian has learned that an announcement will be made in the next month to establish a US interests section - a halfway house to setting up a full embassy. The move will see US diplomats stationed in the country"

Remember when folks on the right and Hill shills were dissing Obama fer sugesting that it makes more sense to talk with enemies than to ignore them and hope they go away?

"Naive" he was called fer that.

Now that Dumbya is take a page outta Barack's book wot are they gonna say?

Spud is sure they'll think of sommat.

Be Well.

Bush is stupid if he believes anything is to be gained by talking with the fundamentalist pigs who rule Iran. They only understand violence.

Bush has played his version of the diplomacy game before. Then it was with Iraq.
I'll say it again -- I believe this is the calm before the storm.
Bush can then make his case to the world "we tried diplomacy with Iran" -- right before he nukes them.

It seems that FINALLY Cheney is being ignored. That POS has ruined George Bush's presidency and legacy, I hope Dubya realizes it and gives Cheney his due.
Becuase he is so due....

"Bush is stupid if he believes anything is to be gained by talking with the fundamentalist pigs who rule Iran. They only understand violence."

1st bush is stupid because he is stupid

2nd they only understand violence? you mean like how we paid saddam to go to war with iran. really worked well.

people like you who think violence is the answer
are about as pig like in nature as the "fundamentalists" in iran

That sonofabitch flip flopping appeaser.

US May Reopen Embassy in Iran

Yeah! The Bush Admin. are a bunch of Nazi-appeasears! How dare they negotiate with terrrrrorrrrristssss!

Looks like another cold war stand-off in the making. I'm still packed and ready to go if it turns hot though.

Fighting W4 Thom

Sounds like the Iranians need to buy some more weapons, like they got from his daddy.

PS Bush is an CHEESE EATING APPEASEMENT MONKEY.

FRANCOFACT!

I guess with oilt at $130 and Iraq a shambles, Bush's oil buddies want him to go a different route in helping them make money.

"I'm still packed and ready to go if it turns hot though."

Sure you are, big guy.

But we won't tlak to them, only listen and make faces!

YESTERDAY'S DRUDGE RIGHTYS

Mr. "We don't negotiate with terrorists" now has Libya, North Korea and Iran on the phone. He would also have Iraq and Afghanistan, but their phones aren't working right now.

Its because he's the biggest fucking terrorist on the planet. Shrub is Murder and Mayhem Incorporated. No one else wants to talk anyway.

I thimk that the realities of our rapidly deteriorating economy has caused a reevaluation of the benefits of Bush's foreign policies. I would imagine that behind the scenes some leaders of other oil importing nations are screaming at him and Cheney and telling them to pacify the Iranians and assure the world's oil speculators that no war is imminent. Who would have expected that Bush would actually come to his senses before John McBush did. Bomb, bomb, bomb, let's bomb Iran my ass. A person would have to be crazy to vote for a man, who is actually running for president, who ever joked like that. I never expected the Republicans to actually nominate someone less intelligent and less responsible than Bush but somehow they have managed to.

I'm glad that Shrub appears to be moving away from war with Iran, after so much bluster.

If you think the price of gas is bad now, I can imagine $10-15/gallon if war broke out with Iran. Only a fool would vote for "Mr. Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Iran".

Only a fool would vote for "Mr. Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Iran".

Posted by nutcase.

They'll be here shortly, joining FWThom.

Sorry John. Sounds like Bush has figured out Osama has been right about Iraq too:

TUSCON, July 18 -- President Bush and Iraq's prime minister have agreed to set a "time horizon" for the withdrawal of U.S. combat troops from Iraq as security conditions in the war-ravaged nation continue to improve, White House officials said here today.

The agreement, reached during a video conference Thursday between Bush and Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, marks a dramatic shift for the Bush administration, which for years has condemned any talk of timetables for withdrawal.

APPEASEMENT, APPEASEMENT, APPEASEMENT, APPEASEMENT can this fucking Administration get anything straight? God can January 20, 2009 get here soon enough.......

Ronald Reagan said that the America will not deal with Terrorist, yet he saw to it that Arms were sold to IRAN.

George W. Bush said that America will not deal with Terrorist, yet they plan to open the Embassy in IRAN.

These Fucking Assholes have the nerve to call anyone a FLIP FLOPPER, these flips have caused Thousands of lives to be lost, How do these Fuckiing Assholes sleep at night?????

But NG it's a "time horizon" not a "time table". See, it's completely different.

Cheney must be having a very bad week. He should go join Rummy and Bremer as the worst failures ever to plan a war for America.

One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. Until the underlying causes of conflict are resolved conflict will continue. And it will always continue because somebody, somewhere, will always want to change the rules.

Who could ever have predicted that Brownie would be remembered as one of the more competent members of the Bush administration.

I'm still packed and ready to go if it turns hot though.

What the hell are you waiting for? Go now! Seriously...no one will miss you.

They only understand violence.

Posted by allahakbar

Who is Iran violent against?

When?

Are you confusing them with Israel or the US?

Nobody has anything on those two countries when it comes to violence.

Why does everyone forget that?

When it comes to using violence as a tool, the US/Israel team takes the cake every day, all day. ABSOLUTELY ZERO EXCEPTIONS!!!

Again, why does everyone forget that?

Who is Iran violent against?
Posted by Manypaths at 2008-07-18 01:10 PM | Reply | Flag

Did you forget about that little thing back in November of 1979? Iran took 52 American hostages and held them for 444 days.

When it comes to using violence as a tool, the US/Israel team takes the cake every day, all day. ABSOLUTELY ZERO EXCEPTIONS!!!

The only thing to say about this statement is that it is obvious you hate the U.S. More humanitarian aid comes out of the U.S that any other country. More effort to help people that live in 2nd and 3rd world countries comes from the U.S. than anywhere else. To say that the U.S. is the most violent country is simply moronic.

Well then Buck, who is more violent these days than the US and Israel? Should be easy for you.

Who is more violent than the largest killing apparatus that has ever existed on this planet?

Killing one man and feeding another doesnt take away from ones violent tendencies.

You should be ashamed of your stupidity.

Now, take the dick out of your mouth and answer the questions.

flip flop flip flop flip flop flip flop

STARBUCK do you consider the Vietnam invasion, the Iraq invasion humanitarian efforts??

How many deaths resulted???
How many homeless???

It would take an awful lot of foreign aid to ever make up for that.

I think America is a schizophrenic country, yes we are generous and we sincerely want to help other nations but we also are easily fooled by leaders with motives other than what they tell us and they lead us into doing some horrible things. Americans would be truely loved around the world if we could just be able to recognize that when someone is waving a flag and leading us to war against someone who hasn't attacked us then they are probably evil and we should not listen to them.

Actually, this is Bush's trojan horse. Instead of an embassy its really just a giant bomb shaped like an embassy.

Starbuck, try this on for size.

The US has the world's largest military budget.

The US is the world's largest arms supplier.

And when it comes to all that humanitarian aid -- a subject on which you merely echo the jingoistic bloviations of American exceptionalist triumphalists -- check out

Global analysts dispute perceived US generosity
By Charles M. Sennott, [Boston] Globe Staff
December 31, 2004

LONDON -- The US government is contributing $35 million of the half-billion dollars that the world's developed nations are donating to the tsunami relief effort, and many Americans believe -- as President Bush put it earlier this week -- that their country is being its typical ''generous, kindhearted" self.

But both on a per capita basis and as a percentage of the nation's wealth, America's emergency relief in Asia and development aid to poor countries actually ranks at the bottom of the list of developed nations, some of the world's top economists and analysts of international development aid said yesterday.
. . .
As of yesterday, the amount the United States has pledged is eclipsed by the $96 million promised by Britain, a country with one-fifth the population, and by the $75 million vowed by Sweden, which amounts to $8.40 for each of its 9 million people. Denmark's pledge of $15.6 million amounts to roughly $2.90 per capita.

The US donation is 12 cents per capita.
. . .


The perception that America is the most generous country in the world is one held by a majority of Americans, according to a 2001 poll by the Program on International Policy Attitudes based at the University of Maryland. The think tank, which studies public attitudes toward various international topics, found that the average American believes that the United States spends 24 percent of its budget on assistance to developing nations, more than 20 times the actual figure. Even when researchers told those being questioned that foreign aid does not include military assistance to other countries, the average response was that the United States spends 23 percent of its budget on foreign aid.

But the relatively low US per capita donation to the tsunami-ravaged region reflects a larger pattern of a decline in official US foreign assistance in recent decades.

In the aftermath of World War II, the US government gave as much as 2 percent of its total gross national product to help countries rebuild. That figure dropped to about 0.5 percent of GNP during most of the 1960s and 1970s, and it fell precipitously during the Reagan administration to its current level of about 0.15 percent of GNP, according to figures compiled by Sachs and the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development based in Paris.

While the United States gives the most foreign development aid in terms of dollars, it ranks lowest among wealthy countries in terms of official development assistance as a percentage of gross national income.

According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, the United States gave $16.2 billion in development aid in 2003, or an amount equal to 0.15 percent of the US gross national income. Norway, with official development assistance of $2 billion, ranked highest, giving 0.92 percent of its 2003 gross national income. France allotted 0.41 percent of its gross national income to development aid in 2003, according to the organization's figures.

At a global development conference in Monterrey, Mexico, in 2002, the world's 22 wealthiest countries, including the United States, were instructed by the General Assembly to provide 0.7 percent of GNP. But the target of the so-called Monterrey Protocol has been met by only five countries. They are Luxembourg, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and the Netherlands.
. . .
www.boston.com


Expect the embassy to be staffed with some of the 'undesirables' of the Bush admin. Then, wait for a hostage situation, all so Bush can have his third war in 8 years.

"The perception that America is the most generous country in the world is one held by a majority of Americans, according to a 2001 poll by the Program on International Policy Attitudes based at the University of Maryland."

That can mean alot of things. The respondents could be thinking about private donations rather than the forced transfer of wealth through taxation. They could be talking about Americans being generous tippers for all we know from the way this article is written.

Peronsally, I don't think its the job of our government to send one nickel overseas.

It isn't as if the world is eager to jump in when there are disasters here.

Bush is stupid if he believes anything is to be gained by talking with the fundamentalist pigs who rule Iran. They only understand violence.

Posted by allahakbar

our kind?

U.S. escalating covert operations against Iran: report
Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:24pm

www.reuters.com

One of Israel's mini-nukes circa 1985 according to

Mordechai Vanunu ~ PHOTOS OF DIMONA

therearenosunglasses.wordpress
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Manypaths....BINGO! People forget or too apathetic to realize that American/Israel are the biggest terriosts in the world. Where the F are the human rights and fights for freedom banners from either one of these countries regarding Darfur?

Maybe Bush is making overtures with Iran cause he knows that once the War Crime Charges are brought, he'll skip bail and head off to his bright new shining beacon on the hill, that city of Freedom and Democracy - Tehran.

I can think of no better place for him. Allah willing.

Now That's a faith-based initiative!

Iran took 52 American hostages and held them for 444 days.

And killed how many? Zero. That's less than the number of Iraqis who were killed in abu graib. And how long were most of the "terrorists" held in gitmo before being released? Lot longer than 444 days.
And how about those japanese internees?

The Iranian government ain't sweethearts, as hezbollah shows, but try and find some bit of reality to work with.

Iran started the modern-day "Jesus-for-Jihad" bullshit back in 1979. They cannot be dealt with reasonably - they respect force and violence just like a common street-thug. Crissy (CA) is right - this is the calm before the storm. Bush won't let the Iranians have nukes - he won't let it happen. Yes - things are gonna get worse - but it beats the hell out of testing an A-bomb in downtown Tel-Aviv.

It's a horrible painful choice that bush is going to make. He is not popular, but he is courageous. God knows Obama won't likely do a thing except wring his hands and whimper like a homo "the destruction of Tel-Aviv and the tragic loss of life is highly offensive, and I strongly condem Iran's actions".

Maybe Bush is making overtures with Iran cause he knows that once the War Crime Charges are brought, he'll skip bail and head off to his bright new shining beacon on the hill, that city of Freedom and Democracy - Tehran.

He just wanted to be able to go to the official unveiling of his statue (bigger than Regan's ) on Useful Idiot Infidel Street in Tehran. It's as close as he's gonna get to a victory parade anywhere.

And dean-Dumbya wasn't gonna let NK have nukes either, until they set one off, then they're cool friends.

Can you believe this 2 faced piece of shit President ??

"Iran is part of the "Axis of Evil"..."They are trying to aquire a Nuclear bomb and destroy the US and Israel""... "We don't negotiate with terrorists"...
"I do what I say I'll do"...I'm a war President"..."I'm the decider"

You ignorant morons who put this fucking asshole in the White House for the last 7-1/2 Years should be real proud of yourselves.

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