Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Monday, July 14, 2008

The cover of the July 21 issue of The New Yorker magazine depicts a turban-clad Barack Obama in the White House exchanging a fist bump with an AK-47-toting, Afro-wearing Michelle Obama.

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Here is the article link thru Politico..

www.politico.com

They burn the American Flag in the fireplace.

This is a really dumb move.

Who owns this rag?

I can't find the name of the owner of this magazine..

Too sophisticated for this electorate. Obama knows that.

I found it quite humorous, though. What a slap in the face to the idiots that won't let the lies go. It's a huge poke in the eye of the rumor mongrels and GOP myrmidon.

McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds quickly e-mailed: We completely agree with the Obama campaign, its tasteless and offensive.--

Aw. McCain's gotta come up with something else to run against him now.


They burn the American Flag in the fireplace.
This is a really dumb move.
Who owns this rag?
~ MURPHY


Don't get your ankles all up in the air over it Murph. The New Yorkers been around a very long time with great authors and a biting New York satiric wit. Something that you sorely lack..

I can't find the name of the owner of this magazine..

Posted by MURPHY at 2008-07-13 09:15 PM


Well I could and did.

It appears this sleezy hit piece on Obama came from the highest level of the owners of "Advance Publications" who own the New Yorker and many other magazines. The owner is a long time Republican billionaire buddy of the Bush -- Samuel Irving Newhouse, Jr. He and his brother Don Newhouse evidently worked with some hit pieces along with Rove and other assorted Bush hit men to help take down a former Democrat Governor of Alabama. It didn't take long to find all the sleezy connections.

Even though this article pretends to be satire and only dissing the so-called "politics of fear" about Obama being a Muslim radical, they know all too well the damage is done because 90% of the people who see this anti-Obama cartoon will never bother to read the article. The cartoon image however, will remain in their minds which is just what the Bush operatives want to happen.

Anyone who thinks Rove, the GOP smear machine, and the Bush cartel are not out to get rid of Obama and put their boy McCain the the White House for Bush's 3rd term in office is too naive and dumb to vote.

Wikipedia:

Samuel Irving Newhouse, Jr. (born November 8, 1927), nicknamed Si Newhouse, is the chairman and CEO of Advance Publications, which, among other interests, owns Cond Nast Publications, which owns magazines like Vogue, Vanity Fair and The New Yorker among many others. He is the son of Samuel Irving Newhouse, Sr., founder of Advance Publications. His grandson, S.I. Newhouse IV, appeared in the documentary Born Rich.

Newhouse attended the Horace Mann School in New York City. He is a billioniare with an estimated net worth of $8.5 billion, and he is currently ranked the 37th Richest American by Forbes Magazine in 2007...


Too sophisticated for this electorate.


LOL I can't wait for the likes of sniper to be pointing that the left knows how radical Obama is after all just look at the cover of That NY magazine.

As Murph ironically points out you can't make this stuff up...

This is a really dumb move

No, Murph.

It's satire.

The rightwing smear machine has gone into overdrive this time.

Painting Obama to be a million negative and often contradictory things.

He's a secret Muslim.
He's a radical Christian.
He's a racist.
He's too black.
He's not black enuff.
He's a corporate tool.
He's a radical marxist.
He's an elitist.
He hates America.

And a whole host of similar lies that when you compound them (as the right surely has) They begin to appear, to even the dimmest of wits, as laughably absurd.

That sed, the pic was bound to cause controversy and to cause both campaigns to decry the depiction on grounds of class, taste and non-PCness.

Spud sez Feh.

People who get uptight about obvious satire need to chill out.

In poor taste?

The smears themselves?

You bet.

A picture satirizing them?

Not so much.

G08ama.

Be Well.

/Poppin' his wee head in the door is the DR's one and only talkin', typin, tater o' doom, entering as ya do,
stage left.

I don't like hit pieces and smear campaigns of lies no matter which side does it.
I hope Obama is ready for what is in store for him when the Bush political attack machine get into high gear. Obama ain't seen nothing yet. What's worse is he and McCain are almost tied! How can that be when McCain is openly running for a third term of the WORSE President in U.S. history?

I sure hope the Democrats did not totally f--k this up by putting an almost unknown Senator -- with some quite questionable buddies and a wacko racist spiritual mentor-- to run in this election. God help us all if we get stuck with McBush and 4 more years of Bush's disasterous policies. I will blame the Dems for not picking a stronger candidate. When you bring a new guy in almost no one has heard of before you also allow your opponents to define him and that's what the Bush operatives are trying to do. Just look at this cartoon.

Thanks for the info CC--

This magazine does hit pieces on Republicans!

"Much is said in Jest"..posted by poster in the link.

So this is ok by folks?

And if they do the same thing with McCain--it'll be the Jest or Satire or the Truth?

Tater

People who get uptight about obvious satire need to chill out.

You're not thinking straight. If you believe the blue collar guys in Pennsylvania and Ohio and the rural states Obama needs to win are going to read the article you're sadly mistaken. How many of those households are going to have copies of the New Yorker on their coffee table next to their copies of "Rod and Reel" and "Sports Illustrated." Get real.

But this cartoon I can guarantee you will be seen on every right wing blog and commented on by every right wing talk radio show from now until the election. And NO they will not give much talk time to the "satirical" nature of the cartoon -- if any at all. The damage is done.

CC

They should have given Bush a reading comprehension test before they ran him, eh?

Obama's smart. He'll surround himself with the best and the brightest people.

CC--Obama is being defined by his own actions--Obama sat in the church for 20 years, friends with bombers of the Pentagon and Capital and running so fast to the right he is tripping over himself to get there. He is an elitist and embarrased of America. Wait for him to speak in front of La Raza--McCain too.--The most radical latino group in America--these guys are going to pander to tomorrow here in San Diego.


This is not going to be taken as "satire" by a great deal of Americans who are going to be bombarded by this cartoon.

Michelle looks like Angela Davis! Is that Osama over the fireplace mantle? In the OVAL Office?


And this is satire? Excuse me for not getting the joke.

And this is satire? Excuse me for not getting the joke.

Posted by MURPHY


Actually Obama is the Serial Rabbit killer in question below...I heard:>)


Serial rabbit killer 'uses Google Earth to find victims'
Last Updated: 1:34PM BST 09/07/2008

www.telegraph.co.uk

FF for Bani--

But Obama hasnt been to Germany yet! ;o)

MURPH

Is it safe to assume you're a staunch right wing Republican?

Guess so since you voted for a proven moron twice who's gotten us in the biggest mess a President has ever undertaken without cause, especially after the lessons of Vietnam. But, since he was drunk all throughout that war wasting his million dollar training in bars he must have missed those few years which would should have served as a huge STOP sign.

Then there's the massive debt, enriching and borrowing from the Communist Chinese (who supported our 'enemies' in Vietnam and Korea), etc etc

Thanks for nothing

But, if it rocks your world to bash Obama have at it. Means nothing. You should check out Zogby's state by state polls. Gonna be a rout by Obama. America's had it's fill of 'conservatives' for a couple of decades at least.

:-)

Here MURPH

Zogby state by state poll (including Barr)

Now it'll be YOUR turn to moan for at least 8 years LOL

Click on a state to see the results.

www.zogby.com

PS MURPH

I think you're a pretty decent person from what I've seen. Just ill informed and on the wrong side of history this time..

:-)

But this cartoon I can guarantee you will be seen on every right wing blog and commented on by every right wing talk radio show from now until the election. And NO they will not give much talk time to the "satirical" nature of the cartoon -- if any at all.

~CChris

Uh-huh. While Spud appreciates the fact that a lot of people on the right are stupid enuff to drink the kool-ade and buy into all the smears (regardless of whether or not they contradict themselves) Spud also appreciates the fact that they will be openly mocked for showing themselves to be the fools they are.

Deservedly so.

Anyone who can't see the smear campaign fer wot it is and who can actually take the caricature of Obama projected by the right wing smear machine for the man himself will be derided as being the assholes who didn't get that the joke was on them.

And as you say, ...The damage is done

This picture satirises Obama's enemies not Obama himself.

This will help Obama, ultimately.

Be Well.

Interesting data from your link AU:

State: Arizona:
Obama - 42%
McCain - 39%
Barr - 7%
Nader - 2%
Someone else - 5%
Undecided - 5%

9% of Republicans choose Barr, including 16% of the Very Conservative. Obama beats McCain among Independents, 51%-28%.


Would have thought McCain would be doing better in his home state.

"Obama's smart. He'll surround himself with the best and the brightest people."

Just like he did before he ran for president. Right?

AU--

You assssssume tooo much! ;o)

I voted for Gore.

I figure I am more conservative now--but more independent and democrat for 20 years.

I wasn't bashing Obama on this.

Everyone knows that Republicans and "people who cling to their guns and religion" dont' have a sense of humor! ;o)

So when a left leaning magazine does this cartoon?

What does that say?

Much can be said by Jesting--you read between the lines.

And what rout? Obama leads by 3 nationwide and the states are going nowhere...

How do you explain if there are 15% more Dems and Obama is only leading by 3%??

BTW--I can't stand Obama--but for his stance on issues along with his lack of judgment in picking friends.

Never underestimate the old timers
>
>
>
> A farmer went out one day and bought a brand new stud
> rooster for his chicken coop.

The new rooster struts over
> to the old rooster and says,
> 'OK old fart, time for you to retire.'

> The old rooster replies, 'Come on, surely you cannot
> handle ALL of these chickens. Look what it has done to me.
> Can't you just let me have the two old hens over in the
> corner?' The young rooster says, 'Beat it: You are
> washed up and I am taking over.'

The old rooster says,
> 'I tell you what, young stud. I will race you around
> the farmhouse. Whoever wins gets the exclusive domain ov er
> the entire chicken coop.' The young rooster laughs
> 'You know you don't stand a chance, old man. So,
> just to be fair, I will give you a head start.'

> The old rooster takes off running. About 15 seconds later
> the young rooster takes off running after him. They round
> the front porch of the farmhouse and the young rooster has
> closed the gap.

> He is only about 5 feet behind the old rooster and gaining
> fast. The farmer, meanwhile, is sitting in his usual spot
> on the front porch when he sees the roosters running by.

> The Old Rooster is squalking and running as hard as he can.
> The Farmer grabs his shotgun and - BOOM - he blows the young
> rooster to bits The farmer sadly shakes his head and says,
> 'Dammit.....third gay rooster I bought this month.'
>
>
> Moral o f this story? ....
>
> Don't mess with the OLD FARTS - age, skill, wisdom, and
> a little treachery will always overcome youth and arrogance!

WOW, this is bad, I am a Republican supporter, voted twice for Bush, and I think this is below the belt...

I hope McCain doesn't condone this, I hope he blasts this....Obama already has...
embeds.blogs.foxnews.com


CC,

But the New Yorker supported Kerry, can you find when this ownership happened...
www.smh.com.au

So when a left leaning magazine does this cartoon?

What does that say?

It says your wrong about this being a "left-leaning" magazine. Didn't you read my 9:37 p.m. post about who owns the New Yorker and many other publications -- Newshouse -- a big billionaire Bush/Rove Republican buddy. Why keep saying you're surprised? It's no surprise to me or anyone else who looks at the owner.

How do you explain if there are 15% more Dems and Obama is only leading by 3%??

MURPHY

Because, after that Newsweek poll you were incensed about (because it had more Dems than Reps in the sample), everyone is making sure they have an equal number of Dems/Reps/Indies in each poll. There is still quite a large 'undecided' share too. But, not enough to guarantee McCain a victory. The shame of it is that had McCain STAYED McCain he might have stood a chance, but THIS McCain is someone people like my wife and I, who used to respect, don't recognize anymore.

But, and this is a BIG but, the state by state polling shows Obama will most likely win with well over 300 electoral votes no matter what national polls show. They're so undependable. A moth farts in Iowa and they're changed again.

Barr will also be a huge factor this time. The GOP base is not excited about McCain, and if he adds Romney to the ticket it will be even worse. All they'll have to do is show Romney as Gov. of Mass and compare those words to what he says now.

Anyway, I think the nation is just plain tired of 'conservatives'. They had their shot and blew it huge. Now we're 'nation building' in the wrong nation, heavily in debt, and have lost our moral high ground around the world. Pretty sad state of affairs compared to where we were January 20, 2001

Farmer John was in the fertilized egg business. He had several hundred young layers (hens), called 'pullets' and eight or ten roosters, to fertilize the pullets eggs.

John kept records and any rooster that didn't perform went into the soup pot and was replaced. That took an awful lot of his time so he bought a set of tiny bells and attached them to his roosters. Each bell had a different tone so John could tell from a distance, which rooster was performing. Now he could sit on the porch and fill out an efficiency report simply by listening to the bells.

The farmer's favorite rooster was Kevin, and a very fine specimen he was too, but on this particular morning John noticed Kevin's bell hadn't rung at all!

John went to investigate.

The other roosters were chasing pullets, bells-a-ringing. The pullets, hearing the roosters coming, would run for cover but to Farmer John's amazement, Kevin had his bell in his beak, so it couldn't ring.

He'd sneak up on a pullet, do his job and walk on to the next one.

John was so proud of Kevin, he entered him into the Sacramento Exhibition and Kevin became an overnight sensation among the judges.

The Result?

The judges not only awarded Kevin the No Bell Piece Prize but they also awarded him the Pulletsurprise as well.

Israeli traitors control the american media, the republican and democratic parties, congress, the pentagon, the office of homeland security, the cia, the defence intelligence agency, the state department, the national security council, and the presidency. The american military is implementing the foreign policies of the jews-only state in palestine. There is nothing american left about america. Is it not true that, "The neoconservatives are the greatest threat America has ever faced .." (Paul Craig Roberts Outfoxed by bin Laden www.antiwar.com). The battle for american independence was lost before most americans realized they were under attack. America is now the biggest and most powerful colony in the jewish empire.


www.iraq-war.ru

glad my ex is half Jewish...can we be Jewish the same way Tiger is black? Might be some payola there...

One more thing

Do you not like black people? I'm not some knee jerk Democrat. I've been following Obama's career for 4 years and just don't see the radical you describe when examining facts, not innuendo or rumor.

Believe me, if he was half of what you describe I wouldn't be supporting him.

Irony weeps by the side of the road. No one will give her a ride, and she doesn't seem like she is even trying. Satire is simply dead - riddled with silver bullets, multiple wooden stakes drive through heart and brain. Head separated from body, burned and crushed into powder....

...well, you get the gist. What was the article about? Anyone notice?

AndreaMackris

Got stuff to do now but here is a link to the New Yorker
New Yorker and scroll down to "Politics" and read.

As for Kerry, did it matter if the NYer wanted to endorse him and keep their liberal NY readers content? At the very top, the owners (Bush buddies) probably already knew the fix was in for Kerry to lose Ohio's electoral thanks to Diebold's owner announcing he would "make sure Bush carried Ohio." It didn't matter whom they endorsed then, did it?

Oddly enough...the new yorker was making fun of fox news here...since they called that the "terrorist fist bump" between the two just before his acceptance speech for the nomination. But the new yorker staff is SOOOO far inside their bubble, that they didn't understand that normal people wouldn't get the joke and be offended by it.

And since it has NOTHING to do with the article, that pic IS over the top and stupid.

Andrea mackris- I am a Republican supporter, voted twice for Bush

This isn't an AA meeting or confessional booth.

That picture is sad, a very inaccurate portrayal of the Obamas. Baracktrack's ears are too small, and Michelle has way more junk in da trunk.

Alex

twice????? aaggghhhhhh!!! (grin)

Andrea mackris- I am a Republican supporter, voted twice for Bush


This isn't an AA meeting or confessional booth.

Posted by Alexandrite

lol


(ps I voted for Dole...)

AU--Bush is not a conservative--not like Reagan. There has been more money poured into abortion under Bush than at any time.

Conservatism is not dead--but does need electric shock. The Republicans blew it. Instead of leading the way further they blew our friggin money --they do need an attitude adjustment..

Bush legacy is SCOTUS picks --and for the record--(FTR)--that is MY biggest concern. POTUS come and go with their goofy ideas. That is the same this time around. Obama is NO changer--he is inexperienced and has no judgment and no core. He is from the Daley machine--he is not the changer--just look at his flip flops..

ANd if McCain picks Romney--he gets MI NV --OH and PA are already going to go McCain along with FL.

Now it is still early--what 114 days left??? Yes it is still early.

I dont' like Obama for who he is morally and his character--nor his wife to put those children in the church they have.

You can tell a lot about a person with the church they attend.

You can tell a lot about a person with the church they attend.

Posted by MURPHY

or don't attend

"AU--Bush is not a conservative--not like Reagan. "

He was a conservative hero 4 years ago.

FACT!

Bush is nearly exactly like reagan, he just doesn't have the popularity, so now all you people are turning on him.

Reagan cut domestic programs, gave tax cuts to the rich, and gave us a record debt.

What exactly has bush done to lose his "conservative" cred? He's anti abortion, anti stem cell, pro capital punishment, and prefer saber rattling to actual diplomacy.

Just because he surrounded himself with older less impressive versions of reagans staff, and it blew up in our face, doesn't make bush NOT conservative overnight.

You same folks were creaming your panties over him a few years ago. Now that it's obvious your ideology sucked it...bush is suddenly a "liberal" or "not conservative enough".

Blow me.

The great right-wing fraud to repudiate George W. Bush

www.salon.com

I see nullifidian agrees with me. lol

Buyers remorse is an ugly thing, isn't it?

MURPHY

Why should we let the country go down the shitter voting on abortion and gay rights?

I just read a very interesting book by Mickey Kantor, former GOP Congressman from OK called "Grand New Party".

He's incensed, as many REAL conservatives, over how that term was hijacked by Bush, Rush, and their ilk.

REAL conservatives, like Barry Goldwater, didn't think it was their business what a woman did with her reproductive rights.

You same folks were creaming your panties over him a few years ago. Now that it's obvious your ideology sucked it...bush is suddenly a "liberal" or "not conservative enough".

Blow me.


Well said.

I shouldn't be surprised. HW Bush was thrown to the wolves by the conservative movement too.

His crime? He lost to bill clinton.


Buyers remorse is an ugly thing, isn't it?

Posted by Alexandrite at 2008-07-13 10:56 PM

We forgive you. You can stay here and blog. :)

"There has been more money poured into abortion under Bush than at any time."


Murfried

Well, that's part of the Bush family legacy:>)

If you recall, "Rubbers" changed his abortion stance to be Reagan's VP...


www.tarpley.net

CC- I didn't vote for Bush. Was quoting mackris.

You must send me nudes for penance. : p

"What exactly has bush done to lose his "conservative" cred? "

He's a failure, and modern conservatism can't fail, of course.

I dont' like Obama for who he is morally and his character--nor his wife to put those children in the church they have.

You can tell a lot about a person with the church they attend.

Posted by MURPHY


Murph

Since it's so important to you, what churches do Bush, Cheney, McCain attend REGULARLY?

*chirp chirp*

Since it's so important to you, what churches do Bush, Cheney, McCain attend REGULARLY?

Posted by TedBaxter

FF

"Eye Wide Shut"?


Buyers remorse is an ugly thing, isn't it?

Posted by Alexandrite at 2008-07-13 10:56 PM


Yes for Obama voters..He is cartooned about the things in the cartoon and people will see it true.

CC--yes I see --That the owner is a Bush supporter--don't know when. But the magazine has editors and they are calling the shots. They are left leaning with the articles in the Archive--they back Kerry and others..

HW Bush lost because his lips moved about taxes and looked at his watch during a debate and Perot.

I will defend the Conservative priciples which are Pro-American and Pro-US.

We can have disagreements over ideology--no problem--but we can agree that both sides of the aisle do WANT the BEST for the country.

I mean that in the best way.

He is from the Daley machine--he is not the changer--just look at his flip flops..

MURPHY

I put up a thread on the Back Page listing 61 flip flops by McCain - on big issues too.

Murphy-
re:" --but we can agree that both sides of the aisle do WANT the BEST for the country."

Can we?

He is cartooned about the things in the cartoon and people will see it true.


So Obama and Michelle are terrorists, murphy?

Murphy, I thought you had already taken the cake for dumb comments here. Expecially when you said reagan won the nobel peace prize. And all the other insanely stupid comments in the last few weeks. Things so retarded the pain caused me to forget them, like a massive head trauma...

But you've more than taken the cake. You stole the bakery on this one.

And before I forget--


Irony weeps by the side of the road. No one will give her a ride, and she doesn't seem like she is even trying. Satire is simply dead - riddled with silver bullets, multiple wooden stakes drive through heart and brain. Head separated from body, burned and crushed into powder....


...well, you get the gist. What was the article about? Anyone notice?

Posted by BetelG at 2008-07-13 10:41 PM


Betel-- --I am in complete agreement and who wrote this? No one here knows the article--

Satire does not do the soul any good--including the political soul and the country.

It is derogatory--It CAN be derogatory.

Did George Bush WANT the BEST for the country?

If he did, he sure fucked up.

Murphy-
I don't think anyone has ever said to me that they were against satire, and I mean that sincerely, and even literally. Without irony, which I'm sure you'll agree is also bad.

HW Bush lost because his lips moved about taxes and looked at his watch during a debate and Perot.

Murphy

I was talking to his PR man days before his loss at the Rockerfeller Center (we met at my brother's reception) & he agreed with me that Rubbers was going to lose because of his abortion stance...

(which is kind of funi...the bush legacy & all that:>)

years ago Bill Clinton stated that GW never would have had a chance (even with the massive vote tampering that did occur) if Gore had been more pro-guns.

but we can agree that both sides of the aisle do WANT the BEST for the country.


Yes for Obama voters..He is cartooned about the things in the cartoon and people will see it true.


I smell a double standard. "Both sides want to help america...but Obama really IS an AK47 wielding terrorist!"

Oh, and what churches do Bush Cheney and McCain go to, murphy? That was a valid question from tedbaxter.

If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember
anything.

Abe Lincoln

(right, Nuklli?:>)

Bani-
No, you still have to remember stuff. Trust me on this one.:)

I lost my post--pressed the wrong key--

Sorry--please be patient.

Oh, and what churches do Bush Cheney and McCain go to, murphy? That was a valid question from tedbaxter.

Posted by Alexandrite

I suspect Chcney's uses a little symbol shaped like a star. Pentagram it's called....

That's the only explanation for his utter reversal of his stance on invading Iraq he made in 1994, and why his heart still works. Gotta be. LOL

I have posted here my story about a terrible church.

Not the Anti-American church type that Obamas attended.

But the type that asked another member if they could spank another child for disobedience--and THAT member said Yes.

I ran after three months and one day after that revelation.

So yes--it is important what church a person attends and --for Me.

"I lost my post--pressed the wrong key--
...

Posted by MURPHY

Noooooo!

So yes--it is important what church a person attends and --for Me.


Posted by MURPHY

What churches do neo cons go to?

Zen Observations
1. Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not
walk ahead of me, for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me either.
Just pretty much leave me the hell alone.

2 The journey of a thousand miles begins with a
broken fan belt or a leaky tyre.

3. It's always darkest before dawn , so if you're
going to steal your neighbour's newspaper, that's the time to do it.

4. Don't be irreplaceable. If you can't be replaced,
you can't be promoted.

5. Always remember that you're unique. Just like
everyone else.

6. Never test the depth of the water with both feet.

7. If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try
missing a couple of car payments.

8. Before you criticise someone, you should walk a
mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticise them, you're a mile
away and you have their shoes.

9. If at first you don't succeed...... Skydiving is
not for you.

10. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all
day.
11. If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember
anything.

12. Some days you're the bug, some days you're the
windshield.

13. Everyone seems fairly normal until you get to
know them.

14. The quickest way to double your money is to fold
it in half and put it back in your pocket.

15. A closed mouth gathers no foot.

16. Duct tape is like 'The Force'. It has a light
side and a dark side, and it holds the universe together.

17. There are two theories to arguing with a women -
Neither one works.

18. Generally speaking, you aren't learning much when
your lips are moving.

19. Experience is something you don't get until just
after you need it.
20. Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping
pill and a laxative on the same night

"17. There are two theories to arguing with a women -
Neither one works."

Murphy's logic (law?)

Bani is right about the church that a POTUS does NOT attend.

Obama attended a church that is ANTI AMERICAN for 20 years.


HOw do you folks reconcile that?

And the only buyer's remorse are the ones that follow Obama...

Sorry..but the truth

18. In poker there are three ways to play pocket Jacks. They all suck.

Murphy-
How was his church "ANTI AMERICAN"?

Just for kicks, do you think slavery is "ANTI AMERICAN"? Why?

Still no answer.

Some days you're the bug, some days you're the windshield.

I think now and then we could all relate to that one.
You get splat upon no matter which side your on.

Bani is right about the church that a POTUS does NOT attend.

murphy

Well, thanks, but unfortunately we have a serial executioner as Prez...so who would want him anyway in their church?


The WORLD knows who GW Bush is !
America's Biggest Serial Killer... 155 Homicides !
And Hundred's more attempts, with scheduled dates getting last minute stays . . .
More than any other elected official in recorded American history !

www.ccadp.org

your on = you're on

I think they all regularly attend the same church Rush Limbaugh has attended through his multiple divorces.

It's called the church of me.

Still no answer.

sound of crickets

It's called the church of me.

Posted by BetelG

lol

Bush was raised as an EPISCOPALIAN

Late to the party but:

1.Murphy doesn't get the joke?

2. Murphy doesn't know and couldn't find who owned the New Yorker?

3. Murphy IS the joke.

an = a

After he had kids and gave up drinking, Bush began to take his faith more seriously. In 1985, he had a heart-to-heart with the Rev. Billy Graham. In his autobiography, the president writes that Graham "planted the seed of faith in my heart ... It was the beginning of a new walk where I would recommit my heart to Jesus Christ."

From CC Episcopalian's link

Weight an evangelist carries with God: 1 billigram [remember Billy
Graham?]

Betel--you are wrong..

When the pastor proclaims that the chickens have come to roost.

The AmeriKKK

The lie about AIDS and the govt

The lie about the first thing--you as a person and parent have to RUN from a church that professes that.

Wright is not right--he is spilling the same things that Sharpton and Jackson talk about--and worse!

And Obamas have lied that they never knew about those preachings. Everyone knows about their preacher and what they preach--especially what the preacher talks about for the last 20 years.

It is a right and wrong thing.

Obamas are lying.

Bani--you make no sense--go look at Clinton..

Black Theology is ANTI-AMERICAN.

ANd if you can't or won't accept that premise--you are needing Obama Jesse Jackson Protector Underwear ON to keep the kool-aid off you..

Going to eat spaghetti from hubby's cooking and watch Deja-Vu

Check back tomorrow==

MURPHY

My preacher growing up made Wright look like Billy Graham in comparison.

Shoot, there are a host of right wing white preachers like Hagee who've said the most inflammatory and ridiculous things I've ever heard.

Sill no answer.

Murphy-
re: "Black Theology is ANTI-AMERICAN."

That's an interesting way to phrase it, whitey.

:)

hey, I graduated from an accedited Billy Graham's HS in his Hq town...I even ran for President of Student Council ~ but then they found out I wasn't a Christian

at least Obama, McCain, Cheney & GW pretend they are Christians & Murphy loves the murderers on Sunday for going to church, but is hugely disappointed that Obama hasn't been certified as Muslim yet.

I still wish Obama was part Muslim/Sufi/Zen/Jew for the only Christian President that has recently been worthy of their faith has been Jimmy.


July 12, 2008 at 9:06 am (Gaza, Human Rights, Israel, Palestine)

The world must stop standing idle while the people of Gaza are treated with such cruelty
By Jimmy Carter

desertpeace.wordpress.com

Yes--Obama would be the second term of Jimmy Carter

That's an interesting way to phrase it,

Murphy's just full of these nuggets. It's too bad said nuggets aren't anything anyone would want to carry from the bathroom.

Murph


Since it's so important to you, what churches do Bush, Cheney, McCain attend REGULARLY?

Posted by TedBaxter at 2008-07-13 11:03 PM | Reply | Flag:


*crickets*

Yes--Obama would be the second term of Jimmy Carter

Posted by MURPHY

You mean insofar as inheriting a massive war debt and record prices - none of which he caused, but which the GOP was salivating to blame him for?

Obama's gonna inherit a war, and the largest debt in the history of mankind thanks to the GOP and Bushy.

And inflation can't be far behind as a result either.

The right wing idiots will be salivating to blame Obama for all that too even though they caused it all.

ANd if you can't or won't accept that premise--you are needing
Obama Jesse Jackson Protector Underwear
ON to keep the kool-aid off you..

Posted by MURPHY at 2008-07-13 11

Some of the comments that the article elicited on that website are priceless.

There are those who are irate because Obama was treated with such indignity, and then there are those not as solicitous of his situation and fitness as a candidate.

There does not seem to be as much love or as universal adoration of Obama as the media and the leftists seem to find.

Here are a few gems.

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what is a cocaine spoon? Oh, and, I don't care about the satirical cover of the nyer


It's about time someone told the truth about these two...they're just poster children for the left over 60s radical, America hating, Black Power movement.


Where's Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Resko, Jesse, Big Al, Maria and Arnie??


NObama doesn't need a gun to promote his socialist agenda. The weapon is the IRS. Oh, I forgot, Senator Reid (DEMOCRAT) says taxes are "voluntary".

This has nothing to do with the GOP. It has to do with the New Yorker. A picture is worth a thousand words. The man is the biggest tax and spend liberal to ever come down the pike, and with the economy in the toilet, all we need now is for a President in office who doesn't understand that the taxpayer's money needs to stay in their pockets, and not the government's.


That is exactly how many folks picture those two - (for real) Love it..! - Sam -


Too funny! Hey, the truth hurts. Can anyone tell me what religion Obama was before his wife brought him to the infamous house of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright? Yep, you guessed it, he was a Muslim.....and still would be if it was "politically correct"....


As they say, perceptions are 90% of reality...


There is definitely a kernel of truth in this satire. Barack (middle name censored) Obama and his vile partner hate super-power America and are itching to transform it into a socialist, sharia-bound Euro-state.



Well Osama's, oops I mean Obama's half brother has recently come out and stated that Obama was raised a moslem as a youngster. So if the turban fits...... And his wife, she's an ultraleftwing America hater, so the Angela Davis fro and the AK fit her perfectly. I'd say the cover is spot on. Think that I'll pin it up in my office it should prove to be quite a conversation piece.


Obama?s admitted heavy marijuana and cocaine use in high school and college may well have played a decisive role in the development of Obama?s inflated sense of his own importance; and, his pretentious demeanor. Heavy drug use can lead to hallucinations concerning ones status of grandiosity. Another clue is Obama?s frequent confused and unintelligible babblings whenever he is subjected to a public forum where he is devoid of a prepared text by his handlers to read from; which is the reason that Obama's controllers will resist any attempt to have their candidate exposed to town-hall style forums. Considering the fact that, if elected, Obama would be in proximity to the Nuclear Football 24/7, the American electorate has the right to know if Obama has any residual defect from his admittedly heavy former drug use. Obama's inability to overcome his nicotine dependency suggests that he remains vunerable to such addictions. Obama has the responsibility to submit to an independent medical examination to ascertain the facts concerning his substance abuse. Until such concerns are put to rest, this man, who has exhibited a profound lack of common-sense, should never be allowed anywhere near the Oval Office.

There does not seem to be as much love or as universal adoration of Obama as the media and the leftists seem to find.

Posted by Johnson

Yea, I'm sure those comments are from "leftists". And it's only wankers like you who seem to think folks think Obama is the second coming. Most of us realize he's a politician running for office.

Here's what the artist of the NYer cover said about the piece:

I think the idea that the Obamas are branded as unpatriotic [let alone as terrorists] in certain sectors is preposterous. It seemed to me that depicting the concept would show it as the fear-mongering ridiculousness that it is.

www.huffingtonpost.com

Epic fail for johnson.

www.huffingtonpost.com

David Remnick, Nyer editor:

The fact is, it's not a satire about Obama - it's a satire about the distortions and misconceptions and prejudices about Obama.


Seems my first impression was fairly close:


Oddly enough...the new yorker was making fun of fox news here...since they called that the "terrorist fist bump" between the two just before his acceptance speech for the nomination. But the new yorker staff is SOOOO far inside their bubble, that they didn't understand that normal people wouldn't get the joke and be offended by it.

And since it has NOTHING to do with the article, that pic IS over the top and stupid.

Posted by Alexandrite at 2008-07-13 10:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

JOHNSON is too busy typing manifestos than knowing or acknowledging the truth, choosing instead to ramble off idiotic statements he got straight from Rush.

Sychophant (look it up Johnson)

You bash Obama over and over, yet YOUR hero can barely read let alone talk.

You grossly misoverestimate Bush's abilities to the point of blindness.










(notice my Bushism, JOHNSON?)

Johnson

Are you married to Murphy?

Political figures are a favorite subject of cartoonists, Obama. Get used to it.

Interesting analysis on this by Michelle Malkin. Scroll down to see some of the cartoons of Condi Rice and President Bush.

michellemalkin.com

Barry,

So, you found this satirical New Yorker cover art tasteless and offensive.--

Welcome to public life.

Guess what? In Washington, political cartoonists and caricaturists spare no one.

Heres a reminder of the crap Condi Rice has had to deal with over the years:

And this is satire? Excuse me for not getting the joke.

Posted by MURPHY

99.9% of the rightwingtards won't, so don't feel so bad.

"Yes--Obama would be the second term of Jimmy Carter"

Jimmy Carter was a bad president. But he was much better than Bush. Carter was only a failure. Bush is a traitor.

I don't see why this magazine cover is getting any attention. I don't get it. What's wrong with the picture?

You can tell a lot about a person with the church they attend.

Posted by MURPHY at 2008-07-13 10:51 PM



How you coming with the earlier question?

And another one: Karl Rove?

I know you're a fan of his work.

As soon as I saw the cover it was obvious what the New Yorker was doing... simply common sense that no serious press organization would put that cover out as anything but satire. Everyone should calm down... I was kind of hoping Obama's campaign statement wouldn't be so filled with fake outrage.

Was hoping for something more along the lines of: "We understand what the New Yorker was saying with their cover and that no offense was intended against Barack or Michelle, and as always Senator Obama supports the Freedom of the Press."

Oh well... just another fake politician...

Pretty stupid cartoon, but it conveys the fears of a lot of dumb voters. Image sells and the conservatives want to play up the images that the New Yorker magazine is selling.

Posted by CalifChris at 2008-07-14 12:52 AM |

Great pic--lol--

So MSLSD was over this cover this morning.

This was bad taste.

Satire should be funny --not derogatory.

This does not help the Obamas.

This is such an incredible non-issue. Just like the Jesse Jackson "nuts-off" comment, it won't hurt or help Obama because thinking people will see it for what it is and anyway most people already have their minds made up about BO and McCain.


Satire or not...many people won't buy the mag or read the explanation. They will just see the cover.

I got an email this a.m...just the cover...no article.

Satire or not...many people won't buy the mag or read the explanation. They will just see the cover.

I got an email this a.m...just the cover...no article.

Posted by kerrin57


Fine - did it change your view or your plans for voting in November?

Gosh, whose ox was gored?

As old Harry Truman said, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."

Obama has been treated with kid gloves. He has shown many inadequacies and negatives. But rather than acknowledging, who and what Obama is, a product of the ghetto community in Chicago, who has thrived politically by dwelling on the doctrine of victimization and entitlement, Obama's background and "essence" has been ignored.

We often project our hopes upon others, and endow them with capabilities and other attributes that we would like them to have. This unrealistic appraisal of Obama has been ongoing. It's good that Ms Hillary has bloodied him by discussing some of the realities. The Clintons, acting in their own interests, have performed a service for this country.

The Obama-worshippers rather than supporting his positions, have been reduced to generalizations, and have focused on the deficiencies of Candidate McCain, which many of us acknowledge. It's just that as an addled druggie with flashbacks, steeped in hate-mongering, hate whitey, hate Jews, hate America, associate of bomb throwing radicals, married to an alienated woman, exposed children to ongoing hateful sermons and Sunday School, lacking in experience and judgment, and what have you Candidate Obama is a certain disaster waiting to happen.

By the way, the cartoon is a work of genius. I'd bet it would bring a million dollars if the original were auctioned. The cartoonist has made his career.

The work embodies many of the problems that beset Obama and anticipates how he will be depicted as the campaign progresses. If reality seeps through the screen, then the Obama candidacy is doomed. If the illusion is maintained, then we'll all suffer.



"Obama has been treated with kid gloves."

Posts the guy who actually began a sentence:
"Of course, given the as yet unsubstantiated rumors that Michelle and Barack were swingers, he being bisexual, and she orgiastic..."

Posted by Bani at 2008-07-13 10:37 PM

glad my ex is half Jewish...can we be Jewish the same way Tiger is black? Might be some payola there...

Glad that your ex was only half-Jewish, Bani. I can't imagine the extent of your focus and rage being any greater, and you might just burst an artery.

Your ex-spouse sure must have alienated you, or did you marry the spouse to have the ability to personally administer punishment to the Jew half.

Did you learn a lot of this stuff regarding the Jew plots from your spouse? Did you get in on the inner workings of the cabal, even though your spouse as "half-Jew" probably would have been excluded from the inner circle, and would have been operating on the periphery of the plotting and scheming.

Are there any modern day protocols similar to the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" to which you can refer us in which the Jews set forth their plans for world domination?

I learned that there is a tribe of black jews of sorts, the Lemba tribe, in South Africa, and a settlement in India, and one in China. Are these communities linked under an umbrella? Could you explain the organization to us?

I'm fertile ground for recruiting Bani if you just lay it out for me. My late mother-in-law remarked when she learned of a white girl who had run off with a black, "Well, at least he's not Jewish." So, give us the real scoop that you learned from your ex half-Jewish spouse, and provide direction to some of the original papers delineating the plan for world domination. Also, I'd be interested in their purpose of attaining world domination, if you would expound on that.

Posted by Danforth at 2008-07-14 12:34 PM

"Obama has been treated with kid gloves."

Posts the guy who actually began a sentence:
"Of course, given the as yet unsubstantiated rumors that Michelle and Barack were swingers, he being bisexual, and she orgiastic..."

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Shucks Danforth, I reply with deserved humility that I am but a lonely poster on a blog, and do not represent the mainstream media, nor are my posts indicative of the fawning coverage that Obama has heretofore received. My seemingly aberrant critical commentary is isolated, and certainly not typical of information and perspectives widely disseminated.


Pretty stupid cartoon, but it conveys the fears of a lot of dumb voters. Image sells and the conservatives want to play up the images that the New Yorker magazine is selling.

Posted by townncountry at 2008-07-14 11:34 A

Funny how it only serves the dumb conservative voters. Can you possibly tell me what conservative in the Clinton campaign broke the story about Obamas so called muslim ties?

Fine - did it change your view or your plans for voting in November?

Posted by MrFair at 2008-07-14 12:18 PM


No darlin' cause I know the New Yorker, and am aware of the "satire". Some don't and won't.
You know it doesn't have to change peoples minds either...it only has to put a burr under some saddles and help voter turnout against BHO.

I haven't found anyone to vote for in Nov. I want to vote against Obama...but I don't know if I can stomach any of the offerings.

They burn the American Flag in the fireplace.
This is a really dumb move.
Who owns this rag?
~ MURPHY

Maybe Obama shouldn't have voted against the flag amendment.

"Grow a pair, Obama" ... "So, you found this satirical New Yorker cover art tasteless and offensive.-- Welcome to public life. Guess what? In Washington, political cartoonists and caricaturists spare no one."

So Obama plays his race/cultural card against a friendly publication while many of his allies on the left dutifully follow his lead and condemn the piece because most of them fear that those of us who live out in flyover country "won't get" the satire.

www.americanthinker.com

Kerrin - good point.

Has anyone seen this cover on Rolling Stone Magazine last month?

www.thehotjoints.com

I didn't think so.


Funny. The Obama camp didn't have a problem with our media being "respectful" to the candidates when that hit the press, did they?

Way to go american. Now McCain will denounce that as well. I wonder if the Boy Wonder has something to say.

"""How many of those households are going to have copies of the New Yorker on their coffee table next to their copies of "Rod and Reel" and "Sports Illustrated." Get real."""


errr, none?

C'mon, all kidding aside, the New Yorker is read by fags and old women. Those lacking the insight to understand the cover are most certainly not subscribed to it, most of the blue collars you peg don't even know there is such a publication.

That being said, the cuffufle (sp?) being caused by this cover will broaden its reach to the corners of your country that are usually not exposed to this rag and yes, it will be misunderstood.

Pauncho - I think the word is "kerfluffle"

This is from a liberal press rag against Obamas and because of the appearance of the truth-in-jest nature of the cartoon--all hell breaks loose.

The cartoon of McCain is again--horrible.

And yes--we have a freedom of the press country--but this should not give license to people to be rude and deragatory.

Doesn't anyone have any manners anymore?

Great--news has McCain to speak in front the racists from La Raza.

UUUGggghhhhhh! Obama too will be able to pander his skinny butt to the same racists!

ANAMERICAN - I'd forgotten about that McCain caricature. Much more offensive than the New Yorker one. Very nasty and disrespectful.

Pauncho - I think the word is "kerfluffle"

Posted by MrFair at 2008-07-14 03:51 PM | Reply |

ah, thank you, though I think you might have an extra "l" in there, no?

"""Doesn't anyone have any manners anymore?"""

Earth to Murphy: No.

ah, thank you, though I think you might have an extra "l" in there, no?
Posted by panchovilla

Paunch - I'd better use the google.

The Rolling Stone caricature of John McCain is fair play against the warmongering, oppressive whiteys whereas the horrific New Yorker attempt at "satire" is hateful spite against a righteous socialist pacifist professing to be a centrist conciliator for the downtrodden in the U.S. and for despotic third world countries criminally censured by the bullies of the world.

Signed those of us who are quixotic dreamers who like having the wool pulled over our eyes by false messiahs.

You guys need to grow a sense of humor.
They have been lampooning political candidates since FOREVER!

Why are we becoming such a bunch of PC pussies ?

The damn cover was funny as all get out...Michelle all Angela Davis....funny stuff.

Per GimmeaScotch "Signed those of us who are quixotic dreamers who like having the wool pulled over our eyes by false messiahs."

Why is it that the retards who voted for GWB TWICE are the first to accuse others of being "quixotic dreamers"? Some kind of funky psychologic projection going on there.

I only voted for GB the first time he ran and only cause the thought of Gore as Prez scared the shit out of me.


And I would do the same today if it was Geo W Bush vs. Gore all over again.

I'm disappointed that Obama is all in a huff over this.

From the sounds of it, the article makes a good point and the cover goes with it.

Grow up, Obama.

First I thought oh-my-gawd. (In language righties will understand).

Then I said to myself "what clever caricaturing." Superb parody.

Then, after reading this thread, comes the cold hard light of day:

Righties don't get it. It's over Murphy's head. Johnson dredges the anti-semitic, anti-black barrel. Cerrin and Krispee say me too. Big City reportage again over-estimates American intelligence. herm

If after all the bullshit and criminal incompetence he has subjected this country to over the past 7 years, you would still vote for GWB over Gore, - well that says a lot about you. Wow.

They have been lampooning political candidates since FOREVER!

----

Yep...and I'm sure the left, including Obama, have had a chuckle or two from all the caricatures of Bush and Cheney.

You got that right! Gore's BS would make GWB look like an amateur.

...you would still vote for GWB over Gore, - well that says a lot about you.

It says a lot about Gore, IMO.

you would still vote for GWB over Gore, ...Wow.


Over Gore or Kerry...bet your ass !

My favorite magazine cover ever: static.flickr.com

To the best of my knowledge Gore has never started a completely unnecessary war, nor twiddled his thumbs while New Orleans drowned.
In fact, Gore EARNED a Nobel Peace Prize for his pioneering efforts to increase world consciousness on the reality and dangers of global warming, - a fact which seems to drive right wingers on this site absolutely nuts.

This just in: i179.photobucket.com

To the best of my knowledge Gore has never started a completely unnecessary war, nor twiddled his thumbs while New Orleans drowned.

Neither have ~200,000,000 other people in this country, so I presume any one of them would have made a better president.

A graduate of the buffalo bob school of debate logic, I see. Also a graduate of weird history 101. The mayor of NO and the gov of LA legally tied Bush's hand's by not allowing the Guard in until too late. But that's another story.

Obama killed jesus...

"a fact which seems to drive right wingers on this site absolutely nuts."

Posted by moder8

Isn't it fun?

The other day "nanc" said her garden is "overproducing."

I thought, "I wonder why?"

They never get it.

i252.photobucket.com

Al Gore doesn't get it, either.
I voted Nader in that one.
At least I think I did.
I may have written in Hank the Hallucination.
He was elected UT student body president once.

Last one was definitely Badnarik.

Did you know Badnarik worked on the code for the F-117?

No shit!

And he can pronounce "nuclear."

My favorite magazine cover ever

I remember that one, too. Being a packrat, I might actually have that on in one of many boxes with the NGs, Omni, et al.

I have a priceless (comedically speaking) copy of Popular Science from 1958 or 1959. In it it sets out a timetable to the moon. It doesn't have man landing on it until 2000 and even then if we develop nuclear powered rockets and to do that it would take close to the entire global GDP which means all wars would have to end.

One of the milestones in this timetable is in 1969 exploding a nuclear device on the moon to blow chunks of it into space and an unmanned spacecraft scooping up the ejecta and returning it to earth.

Gawd, they loved anything with the word 'nuke' in it back then.

10 years later we were there, no lunar nuclear bombs, no nuclear rockets, but still a lot of wars.

Posted by herm at 2008-07-14 05:08 PM

Righties don't get it. It's over Murphy's head. Johnson dredges the anti-semitic, anti-black barrel. Cerrin and Krispee say me too. Big City reportage again over-estimates American intelligence. herm

herm, when was Obama given absolution for his sins swimming in the tank with bomb-throwing and rhetorical anti-Americans, anti-whites, anti-Semites for most of his adult life? The man has lived in a cesspool, and now he wants everyone to make believe that he does not carry a stench.

Why should Obama be absolved of his past?

In fact, Gore EARNED a Nobel Peace Prize for his pioneering efforts to increase world consciousness on the reality and dangers of global warming, - a fact which seems to drive right wingers on this site absolutely nuts.

Actually, it drives anyone -- left or right -- nuts who has half a brain or better. That's a bit more accurate than your politically charged statement.

Bought any of his carbon credits lately, m8? I hear the power bill is going up at the Gore place. He could use the cash, I'm sure.

I hear the power bill is going up at the Gore place

This article says the opposite:

www.cnn.com

IMHO this is a rude cartoon--satire and all.

The McCain cartoon is even worse!


This one is funny--

www.oculture.com


See we can and should make fun of our enemies--

Like the Muhammed cartoons--we think they are funny--but didn't people die over the riots and BS that muslims found the cartoons offensive.

This will not have the intended ha ha from the public. In fact, the editor is all over the cable shows explaining why they did this.

When you have to explain the joke--it kinda' loses the humor, don't ya' think?

UUUGggghhhhhh! Obama too will be able to pander his skinny butt to the same racists!

Posted by MURPHY at 2008-07-14 03:53 P

Oh he already had his pandering moment wiht Sanchez and the pos mayor from la who happened to be a memeber. The Boy Wonder claims ICE is yanking the baby right from the illegal mothers tit. Kids are coming home to find their parents gone and HE will not stand for it. We already know he will not enforce current immigration laws, will not go after so called sanctuary cities who harbor these illegals. Mas cambio????

Murphy likes satire now. Unfortunately, satire is dead

forums.wnd.com

Sound off on the New Yorker's cover with turban-wearing Obama, gun-toting wife (2462 votes)

The image isn't too far from the dangerous truth about the Obama family 59% (1453)
Funny, because there's some truth in it 12% (305)
It will do what it's designed to do: sell magazines 7% (175)
Hilarious, it's perfect satire 7% (165)
The image will only add to the massive publicity Obama receives while McCain remains in the shadows 6% (152)
Tasteless and offensive 3% (79)
This is character assassination, literally and figuratively 1% (34)
Other 1% (29)
Everyone should boycott the New Yorker over this huge insult 1% (22)
There's no such thing as bad publicity 1% (19)
It's obvious the New Yorker wants Obama to win 1% (15)
This is probably a joke and is not intended to hit newsstands 0% (11)
It's obvious the New Yorker wants McCain to win 0% (3)

"I hear the power bill is going up at the Gore place"

You didn't hear shit.

You're an ET on an oil rig T Boone wouldn't touch.

Deal with it.

At least you have a job.

Goatman-
re: "Neither have ~200,000,000 other people in this country, so I presume any one of them would have made a better president."

Just most of them.

This article says the opposite:

I'm so proud of Gore: Going on his crusade to save the planet but waits two or three years (and becoming unable to avoid embarrasing questions any longer) until he decides to cut his own energy consumption.

Better late than never, I guess. Gee thanks, Al. What's that private jet cost carbon footprint wise, BTW? Probably about 1% or less of mine flying commercial I would guess

Just most of them.

I have no idea how you could possibly quantify your logic, so I will not ask you to prove it and will assume it is based on a blind politically emotional response.

You're an ET on an oil rig T Boone wouldn't touch.

Wrong. He has.

LOL

At least you have a job.

And one that pays quite handsomely thanks to idiots willing to pay $4/gal gas. Thanks for contributing to the 'help goatman retire handsomely' fun, zat.

Betel--Is it not clear enough that I don't care for the NYer cover of the Obamas?

AU--the word is that they put in the solar and his bill went up.

www.telegraph.co.uk's-electricity-bill-goes-
through-the-(insulated)-
roof.html

Murphy-
First it was because you are against satire, and now?

For the record, I have no problem with the cover. Its satirical subject is you, and not Barack and Michelle - but you don't seem to get that.

That's fine.

I retired more handsomely than you can ever possibly imagine, IT boy, well over a decade ago.

And at the present time my former employers are involved in multiple lawsuits over my patents.

The most fun is what's happening now.

And then there's:
Neutrino imaging.

How sweet.

I can see you now.

Stop it!
You'll go blind!

Goatman-
At this point the onus is on you to prove that someone could have done a worse job as President for the last eight years.

"He has."

[citation needed]

OTOH, my family hasn't been in the awl bidness sine Humble and Gulf.

That connection is "Texas Radio."

Goatman-
Wait! I did have a landlady once who I think would have done a worse job. I'll get back to you with my case....unless you have a better example in the meantime.

sine => since


Glad that your ex was only half-Jewish, Bani. I can't imagine the extent of your focus and rage being any greater, and you might just burst an artery.

Your ex-spouse sure must have alienated you, or did you marry the spouse to have the ability to personally administer punishment to the Jew half.


Did you learn a lot of this stuff regarding the Jew plots from your spouse? Did you get in on the inner workings of the cabal, even though your spouse as "half-Jew" probably would have been excluded from the inner circle, and would have been operating on the periphery of the plotting and scheming.


Are there any modern day protocols similar to the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" to which you can refer us in which the Jews set forth their plans for world domination?


I learned that there is a tribe of black jews of sorts, the Lemba tribe, in South Africa, and a settlement in India, and one in China. Are these communities linked under an umbrella? Could you explain the organization to us?


I'm fertile ground for recruiting Bani if you just lay it out for me. My late mother-in-law remarked when she learned of a white girl who had run off with a black, "Well, at least he's not Jewish." So, give us the real scoop that you learned from your ex half-Jewish spouse, and provide direction to some of the original papers delineating the plan for world domination. Also, I'd be interested in their purpose of attaining world domination, if you would expound on that.


Posted by Johnson


pretty ignorant fellow aren't you? How do you know I'm not more Jewish than her?:>)


'Assimilation, intermarriage may dry up donations to Israel'

That concern was voiced at a reception and lavish kosher buffet dinner at the Beverly Hills mansion of Parviz and Pouran Nazarian honoring nearly 200 major donors ($100,000 a year and up) to the Hadassah Women's Zionist Organization of America, which raises funds for the development of Israel's Hadassah Medical Organization and other educational and social projects.
The Nazarians, Jews who left Iran with the rise of the Muslim regime, are generous donors to Jewish causes, including Hadassah. They hosted the reception in their tasteful and luxurious mansion, complete with a private waterfall in the back garden, antiques, exquisite paintings and sculptures.

The Nazarians were surprised last year in Israel by their children, who arranged for a celebration of their 50th wedding anniversary at a four-day party in the Judean Desert for families and friends, who were housed in Persian-style tents hung with expensive chandeliers. Pouran was seated on a golden throne

www.jpost.com

What a stupid investment.

T Boone missed the physics lecture.

It's not possible to generate enough energy with a windmill to make a windmill.

If you don't understand the physics of the fission-fusion hybrid reactor on a conversational level, I suggest you just kill yourself now.

Like the German "priest" in Foyle's War last night.

Sweet.

Betel--I am not against satire--good grief..

And yes--I get that they are trying to make fun of the all the rumore and innuendos about the Obamas.

But this is not funny and it looks badly on Obama--but hey you don't mind--so I guess it's ok!

There is a line that should not be crossed.

I don't even know why I care--I can't stand Obama.

But the rudeness is over the top--the cartoon on McCain is even worse. It is not the least bit funny.

Folks are so rude--it's only to get worse--if that is possible.

Get over it, Oreo
--The New Yorker Magazine

Murphy-
When did you read the article that accompanied the cover?

I don't even know why I care--I can't stand Obama.


Murfried

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I retired more handsomely than you can ever possibly imagine, IT boy, well over a decade ago.

Good for you. I'm pleased. I want everyone to retire better than me. I love a world full of happy people.

And at the present time my former employers are involved in multiple lawsuits over my patents.

I would not have known this if I haven't seen you mention it a couple of dozen times. I'm proud to say I am not currently involved in any lawsuits.

Murphy-
re: "Betel--I am not against satire--good grief."


Oh.-


"Satire does not do the soul any good--including the political soul and the country.

It is derogatory--It CAN be derogatory."

Posted by MURPHY at 2008-07-13 11:12 PM | Reply |

I just don't know where I got that impression...

At this point the onus is on you to prove that someone could have done a worse job as President for the last eight years.

???

You made the claim Just most of them. You made the claim, you bear the burden of proof. Another grad of buffalo bob's debate school.

Outside a legal context, "burden of proof" means that someone suggesting a new theory or stating a claim must provide evidence to support it: it is not sufficient to say "you can't disprove this." Specifically, when anyone is making a bold claim, it is not someone else's responsibility to disprove the claim, but is rather the responsibility of the person who is making the bold claim to prove it. In short, X is not proven simply because "not X" cannot be proven

en.wikipedia.org

MURPHY

I'm starting to get the sense your disdain for Obama has more to do with the color of his skin than his politics.

Having spent a lot of time in San Diego myself I'm not hazarding that guess without personal experience in the area.

I'm starting to get the sense your disdain for Obama...

You're WAY behind the curve AU.

Wait! I did have a landlady once who I think would have done a worse job. I'll get back to you with my case....unless you have a better example in the meantime.

I don't need one. In what is probably the most elementary rule of a debate, the burden of proof lies on the one making a claim. So prove to me you claim is indeed factual. I'm not saying it is or isn't. But you did. YOu have the burden of proof.

Goatman-
Exactly! You claimed that Bush led the country better than if someone had been chosen at random from the general populace.

Prove it.

It's not possible to generate enough energy with a windmill to make a windmill.

???

Depends on teh lifetime of a windmill and normal operating costs.

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Posted by Bani


"I retired more handsomely than you can ever possibly imagine, IT boy, well over a decade ago."

Data/Zat

here's your chance to convert someone to Maximum parisomy:>)


OZARK

Not really. I just wanted to sit back and observe more before saying it.

Let's play a different game, goatman. Let's say that instead of Bush, we'd had an al Qaeda plant as President.

What would he have done to weaken the nation more?

OZARK

One indisputable fact is that California will go for Obama by a landslide.

Meanwhile, the statues of Reagan will continue to oxidize.

Exactly! You claimed that Bush led the country better than if someone had been chosen at random from the general populace.

I did? Please tell me the time stamp of the post where I did that, or admit that you are a liar. I made a presumption (different than a statement of fact, for the logically impaired here) based on a statement by m8.

You, OTOH, made a statment (not presumption) at 6:10 Just most of them.

I hate to split hairs, but I hate even worse trying to engage in a logical debate with those who do not understand the rules.

So you, amigo mio bear the burden of proof having been the first to make the claim.


Let's play a different game, goatman. Let's say that instead of Bush, we'd had an al Qaeda plant as President.


What would he have done to weaken the nation more?

Posted by BetelG

FF well, not ff...damn that's funi

Let's play a different game, goatman.

No thanks betelgcooperboydbadweekkazak. I don't like games. You, having so many monickers are obviously a gameplayer. I'll go for an intellible debate though if you wish to follow the rules.

"It's not possible to generate enough energy with a windmill to make a windmill."

Nitey nite.

The dollar has lost 40% against the euro. We are bogged down in an endless occupation in a war we were sold on false pretenses (Iraq) while losing the war we all supported (Afghan.). Gas is over $4.00 a gallon. The second largest bank ever to collapse just did. We get all defensive when anyone uses the word torture. This very conversation, as I happen to be overseas, can be monitored without a warrant. Bin Laden is livin' large.

What would an enemy have done to warp, injure, weaken and isolate us more than Bush and his supporters have done?

How do you explain if there are 15% more Dems and Obama is only leading by 3%??

MURPHY

The one poll at 15% you're talking about was actually representative of the current way the pie is sliced in party identification. The rest are skewed to gather an equal number of Dems/Reps/Independents. However, Democrats enjoy a double digit lead in party identification. In Congressional preferences Democrats enjoy double digit leads as well. Real Clear Politics polls are pretty undeniable. Same result time after time.

You need to go to Zogby.com and click on state by state polls in the Electoral Map there based on a comprehensive (and large) poll on a state by state basis.

Obama's way ahead in the Electoral College.

Murphy, you're just going to have to get used to saying, "President Obama". I think your opinions of him are based on your emotions than any real facts. You claim to have voted for Gore in 2000. Obama and Gore are both Democrats with similar views on governance. So, again I must suggest your views on Obama must be based more on his race than his politics.

What would an enemy have done to warp, injure, weaken and isolate us more than Bush and his supporters have done?

I don't know. But that's irrelevant question. In a debate, one cannot take a speculative position to prove an opposite one.

Again, dem's da rules. Wanna play by 'em or not?

I noticed way back when you were 'boyd' that your favorite debate tactic is to ask more questions as a response to the one directed at you. Sorry, not allowed in a formal debate and I won't fall for it.

BETELG

Bin Laden got everything he ever dreamed of on his wish list.

His main goal was to see the U.S. economy tank.

Beyond that Bush has been his dream-come-true for radical recruiting.

Etc. etc.

"I'll go for an intellible(sic) debate"

Go for it.

I'm going for five cuttings of hay while it lasts.

My kids are so rich they don't bother me.

Here's what I'm dealing with, 'Tard.

i179.photobucket.com

Zatoichi-
re: "It's not possible to generate enough energy with a windmill to make a windmill."

From scratch? Maybe not. However, considering just the energy we spend bringin' pieces of cool shit (some ignitable) we find on the earth together in the right way with the use with our little eager brains, you fuckin' bet it is.

My kids are so rich they don't bother me.

That's great. As I said upthread, the more well off people this planet has the better. I'm am so fucking proud of your kids I could just burst.

BTW, who raised them?

"From scratch? Maybe not"

Bingo


And your tiny point is?

AU-
I know. It's fuckin' scary bad what Bush has done to this country. I really don't get his apologists at all. History will - with concise and professional venom, blending into pity and indifference.

My kids are so rich they don't bother me.

Like the girl you told us you gave 'piles of money' to?

My son's well off, too, but I didn't have to give him a penny after he was 18.

Zatoich-
I meant as in "before there was a heaven and and an earth" from scratch. Look, if you're just trying to illustrate a Law of Thermodynamics, I'm with you.

The only point I'm trying to make is that we can burn less fuel (energy) to make a windmill than the energy that will be produced by the windmill.

Zat-
If your argument is that we will burn out, you are correct. Shall it be before the sun goes, or when the sun goes?

lov Zat picture! Was Zat a previous incarnation 4 u on mars?


i179.photobucket.com

The only point I'm trying to make is that we can burn less fuel (energy) to make a windmill than the energy that will be produced by the windmill.

I've never seen any data to support this argument. Can the people of California really be this stupid with their project at altamont pass? Better right ahnold a letter and let him know.

And your tiny point is?

LOL. It wasn't exactly a subtle one.

Murphy, you're just going to have to get used to saying, "President Obama".

Posted by AMERICANUNITY


I still call gw, gw...

If the studies are correct, windpower has a EROI over 25.

"This article reviews 119 wind turbines from 50 different analyses, ranging in publication date from 1977 to 2006. This survey shows average EROI for all studies (operational and conceptual) of 25.2 (n=114; std. dev=22.3). The average EROI for just the operational studies is 19.8 (n=60; std. dev=13.7). This places wind energy in a favorable position relative to conventional power generation technologies in terms of EROI."

www.eoearth.org(EROI)_for_wind_energy

Funny picture, Bani. Thanks


Funny picture, Bani. Thanks

Posted by goatman


(Zat posted it earlier...u did a Johnson(skip:>)

My kids are so rich they don't bother me.


Here's what I'm dealing with, 'Tard.


i179.photobucket.com

Posted by Zatoichi at 2008-07-14 07:15 PM

(Zat posted it earlier...u did a Johnson(skip:>)

Actually, I read his posts, but I got tired of looking at the same three or four pictures he always linked to.

My bad...I guess.

I still won't fall his his photobucket links, though. I really got weary of seeing his favorite ball cap, a picture of the Rocky's from a plane, a cat, and someone who he tells us we can't ever see the rest of -- as if anyone really wanted to. *sigh*

Null: Your link didn't take, even when I C&Ped the whole thing that didn't catch the hyperlink. I believe you and betelg are right and zat is wrong on that matter, but it's good to see it in an unbiased article.

" I really got weary of seeing his favorite ball cap, a picture of the Rocky's from a plane"

Actually it's the Rocky Mountains Solo, shithesd.
The ball cap is my wife's fave.

i179.photobucket.com

The Goddess is laughing at you.

www.eoearth.org

Try the first link.

Well, here's where I'm posting from ~ Goat ~with my papallion on a leash nearby:>)

waterontheweb.org

AU--

You obviously haven't been reading my posts. I talk about the substance of the man and he is wrong for the country and where he wants to take it.

Gore was way more moderate than the screeching banchee he is now.

I voted for Obama in the CA primary. I was a registered Democrat and had to vote Dem.

I got a new registration and yes--it is Republican.

And Boyd-- I added It "CAN" be derogatory to the post. The article is being talked about by the slimy editor on cable today. It goes over all the misinformation and rumors and innuendos about the Obamas and trying to make a joke.

If it is so funny--don't know why Obama is so defensive.

I am all for freedom of the press and even if the press is stupid and rude and derogatory--God love 'em--I want them there.

Actually it's the Rocky Mountains Solo, shithesd.

Oh. I assumed you had a plane around you. I did not realize you were doing a superman.

Also, I see you spellchecker is the 'G' rated version. It probably has the ability to add words though. It's spelled S-H-I-T-H-E-A-D

Your welcome.

The Goddess is laughing at you.

Good. As I keep telling you, I think the world is a better place with happy people.

"Actually it's the Rocky Mountains Solo, shithesd."

Multi-parsinomist Zat's drinkin' agin...


...you would still vote for GWB over Gore, - well that says a lot about you.


It says a lot about Gore, IMO.

Posted by goatman at 2008-07-14 05:12 PM | Reply


What does it say about Gore? What areas does it say you think Gore would have done worse than Bush?

I would presume if bin Laden would have been President--he could not have done worse.

Bush is absolutely the worst President in the history of America, and the people who voted for him are the biggest idiots to have voting rights in the history country, and those who support him now should have all rights of citizenship taken away, they should be deported with the rest of the illegal aliens invading this country, and Bush should be hung for war crimes and treason for knowingly lying us into Iraq, IMO.

;-)

I am wondering if they plan on putting John Mccain on the cover in a wheelchair outside a nursing home, or his rich wife who has over $750,000 credit card bills per month, on the cover showing her as an elitist crawling on the backs of the poor as she grinds her Manolo Blancs into their backs while they hold foreclosure papers, or will they show John McCain with a feeding tube stuck in his abdomen wearing a pair of flip flops while playing with billions of dollars given to him from the big oil companies. Maybe they will show John McCain with His mouth sucking on the teets of GWB and Dick Chenney, With Karl Rove having his hand up his arse like he is a puppet. I doubt it.
This is absolute racism and it is proof that this magazine is a right wing tool. I am disgusted, and as a white man I am embarrassed, since I am sure it was some old white turd that approved this cover

"I would presume if bin Laden would have been President--he could not have done worse."

Saddam might have been better, too...Sharon worst:>)

What areas does it say you think Gore would have done worse than Bush

It says that I rely on facts and don't play the 'what could have been' game.

You statement, however says, 'I like to put words in your mouth' since I never said that Gore would have been worse.

This is absolute racism and it is proof that this magazine is a right wing tool.

What if they did a similiar cover with a white person? What label would you put on it then since racist would no longer fit.

Get a clue -- it's a political satire. Why do people like you turn any negative comment on a black person a race issue. That is so juvenile.

I guess any political satire on obama is off limits then, isn't it? Because writing any is a sure sign of racism.

Grow up. It's the 21st century, jerome.

Barry Obama has nothing to run on but shiny teeth and good speeches as long as he's got a teleprompter. He's accomplished nothing in the Senate and is a typical politician. He's got nuthin but the color of his skin, which is the most important thing of all to the liberals.

Ask some of his "average supporters" to name one thing he's accomplished and they'll just stare blankly.

Just ask "Besides CHANGE and HOPE, name one reason that Barak should be president." and they'll be deer in headlights. Because he's empty.

I would presume if bin Laden would have been President--he could not have done worse.

Fuck. You live a far more miserable life than I even remotely fathomed. My condolences, dude.

Beautiful lake, Bani. I just got back from a couple of days at Padre Island, sleeping in the sand, swimming nekkid, drinking a lot of beer and eating a lot of sand. I love it. Wish it was my backyard now. It will be one day.

Goatman why are you attacking me again. you are same fool that attacked me back in 2003 for my statements that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. I stated that our economy would be in a terrible state, and you defended GWB then. You have no capital to spend here or anywhere, you spent it all in the lead up to the Iraq war when you were so convinced that they were going to attack us...

Political satire, yes I agree, but you did nothing to comment about why they do not show this type of think with McCain, can you explain that?

No political satire is not off limits, but to suggest that his wife is a black panather, and put her in an afro, that is racism, if someone had put a picture of you in front of your trail at the idaho hills trail park and insinuated that you had no teeth just because you were white trash i would have called that racism too..so thank you for asking..

for nulli...


GOOGLE NEWS NOW CENSORS POLITICAL CARTOONS

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Goatman why are you attacking me again. you are same fool that attacked me back in 2003 for my statements that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
...

???

I became active on this blog a year ago.

Political satire, yes I agree, but you did nothing to comment about why they do not show this type of think with McCain, can you explain that?

Really?

Goatman, ok lets ask you the same question. name one reason Grampy McCain should be president, and dont say it is because he was in a war, that does not qualify the drug addict next door to me to be president so that does not fly, and dont tell me it is because he wa involved in the S and L scandal and say that gives him experience with the economy because he has accomplished nothing but to commit fraud. Dont tell me about his faliure to pay property taxes in Lajolla California for the past 4 years because that also does not show that he can be president. What do you have besides and old man that cant remember his stance on anything.

and put her in an afro, that is racism,

Oh yes -- it's a well kept secret that blacks don't have kinky hair. We mustn't let it out.

"Oh yes -- it's a well kept secret that blacks don't have kinky hair"

Talk about a non-sequitur. Afro=kinky hair.


No. Hair type and hair style are not the same thing.

Goatman, ok lets ask you the same question. name one reason Grampy McCain should be president,

I can't think of one. I can't stand the man.

I think I'm starting to see the light that shines on your tiny little brain. You are one of those binary people. If a person doesn't like obama, he automatically is for mcCain and vice versa. Sorry to disappoint you -- I am no man's sheeple.

For a minute there I thought there was someone intelligent just joined today to give me a ration of shit.

BetelG -- is this you again?

I became active on this blog a year ago.

that's nothing.....he joined today.

No. Hair type and hair style are not the same thing.

OK. I'll clarify: I didn't know that portraying someone in an afro was a racial thing.


'I would presume if bin Laden would have been President--he could not have done worse.'


Fuck. You live a far more miserable life than I even remotely fathomed. My condolences, dude.

Posted by goatman


Life is good by the Medicine Lake here & Bin clearly had less to do with 911 than GW...

Bin's Dead for years Clone, however, well, that's another story...

www.whatreallyhappened.com


Goatman, I am referring to your attacks on me when you were posting to the AOL messages boards. Do you deny that you were one of the tools yelling yes lets attack Iraq? Can you honestly say that you did not support the war in Iraq. When did you change your mind? trust me on this one McCain will be the same as Bush you were a fool when you voted for bush. You and your dim buddies screwed the rest of us over, so do us all a favor and dont force us to live with a guy you voted for again because" you could have a beer with him" . We can not survive another repub in office. If you think a rep. in office is so great please explain in detail what McCain has done and will do for our country. Especially please focus on what he will do to help my 67 year old father who was about to retire when he lost all of his retirment thanks to Enron. What will he do for him? what is his plan for social security? What is his plan to shore up the faltering banks?

Chrp chrp chrp,,,,no deer in head lights for you..just crickets.

"OK. I'll clarify: I didn't know that portraying someone in an afro was a racial thing."

I don't know why I dropped back in to this blog, but it was well worth it!! Some of you guys are really funny!

they should be deported with the rest of the illegal aliens invading this country,

exactly. send them back to the country they came from.....

oh wait, you mean outerspace don't you?

Goatman, I am referring to your attacks on me when you were posting to the AOL messages boards

LOL. In spite of the hundreds of diskettes that came in my Sunday paper, I've never been a member of AOL.

Do you deny that you were one of the tools yelling yes lets attack Iraq?

Yes


Chrp chrp chrp,,,,no deer in head lights for you..just crickets.

Sorry. It took me more than two minutes to read and respond. I'm going to leave you to someone who won't keep you waiting so long. You're an idiot. (that's saying a lot because I rarely name call here except with da bOoB.

Later, jerome.


that's nothing.....he joined today.

oh and that means what exactly.

goatman you make me laugh ...you have no debate skills, you attack and that is the best you can do.

you remind me of the developmentally disabled boy in my third grade class last year. he would fight with all the other students in my class, and rather than make a point about anything he would just attack others. It was clear that he was disabled because he had no thoughts of his own, all he had was the ability to attack and restate what other children in the class said. Are you his absent father? because all i see on here from you is attacks towards other people. Do you only come on here to attack people. Try and original thought, you might like it

Barry Obama has nothing to run on but shiny teeth and good speeches as long as he's got a teleprompter. He's accomplished nothing in the Senate and is a typical politician. He's got nuthin but the color of his skin, which is the most important thing of all to the liberals.

Ask some of his "average supporters" to name one thing he's accomplished and they'll just stare blankly.
Posted by humanear

Well, since Geo Bush didn't even have the skin color thing, I suppose you used the same reasons to vote against him in 2000. After all, Al Gore beat him hands down on the experience and coherent issues.

LOL. In spite of the hundreds of diskettes that came in my Sunday paper, I've never been a member of AOL.


Goat

lol me neither...

you remind me of the developmentally disabled boy in my third grade class last year.

Posted by jerome08

You were in the third grade last year? Wow, you type well for a fourth grader.

Goatman, thanks for the link to of McCain in RS. I saw that too...when it came out...funny though I didnt see it until I was half way through the magazine. WHy? Because it was not on the front cover. If you really need me to explain the difference between a front cover, and a pic in an article then you are even more retarded than I originally thought

come on....are you that stupid....I teach third grade. maybe you should sit in for a few lessons and i can help you out...I can teach you to use context clues in literature to make inferences when things are not clearly stated in text. I assumed you had some level of literacy skills and could make inferences but I assumed wrong. I only came to this site to share my opinion, I did not come to be attacked by goatman and now you his lame little boy friend


Goatman, thanks for the link to of McCain in RS. I saw that too...when it came out...funny though I didnt see it until I was half way through the magazine. WHy? Because it was not on the front cover. If you really need me to explain the difference between a front cover, and a pic in an article then you are even more retarded than I originally thought

Posted by jerome08

get a grip ~ boy...it's just a cartoon, not Mohammad in a turbin on fire


Danish Mohammed Cartoons
The twelve "Satanic Drawings"

2008-04-17
Drunken Mohammed

bibelen.blogspot.com

Especially please focus on what he will do to help my 67 year old father who was about to retire when he lost all of his retirment thanks to Enron.

what happened? was all of his stock in enron? did he work for them?

"what happened? was all of his stock in enron? did he work for them?"

It doesn't matter. All that libruls want are FREE hand outs!

FACTALOOZA!

goatman you make me laugh ...you have no debate skills, you attack and that is the best you can do.

you remind me of the developmentally disabled boy in my third grade class last year. he would fight with all the other students in my class, and rather than make a point about anything he would just attack others. It was clear that he was disabled because he had no thoughts of his own, all he had was the ability to attack and restate what other children in the class said. Are you his absent father? because all i see on here from you is attacks towards other people. Do you only come on here to attack people. Try and original thought, you might like it

----

Criticize another for attacking and then attack that person.

Those ARE DAMN good likenesses of the Hussein family though!

FACT!

weird...pirate. I wonder what his "3rd graders" think of his teaching skills ?(do they stick peanuts in their ears?:>)

lol me neither...

I liked it when they switched to CDs. THose were cool to microwave. Did you ever do that, Bani? If not, go grab an old CD and nuke it for about 5-8 seconds. Cool stuff. Really.

I just finished a delicious homemade chicken pot pie. Yum

MURPHY

You claimed to have voted for Obama in the CA primary.

With so many other candidates on the ballot what in the world would possess you to do that if you hold him in such disdain?

Well, that said, CA is in no way, shape, or form going to go for McCain, despite your vote for and then against Obama.

FACT!

Posted by James_Dean

I liked the mohammad & RS mcSame ones better, though

what happened? was all of his stock in enron? did he work for them

I moved to California in 1998, my family is still in Texas, yes my father worked in the PR department for 24 years, then the company went bankrupt, but not before selling their assests and setting up a shell company so that the ceos could get the big bucks they wanted secretly. Watch the enron documentary its really sad what they did to millions of americans. And where those americans bailed out, no, but here we see again today that another bank is getting bailed out by the govt. yes i know we need to do this so that the economy as a whole does not suffer, but what about baer sterns, who is next now freddie mac and fannie mae, what about all the people that were vicitms of predatory lending and now are losing their homes, or people who are losing their jobs in teh wonderful bush economy. No the average person will never get bailed out but big cop. will always get the help the want or need.

My father now lives only on social security, but has to work 10 hours a week at walmart for money for food. He can only work a limited amount of hours since he is on social security. I send money but can only afford so much since we have twins.

"If not, go grab an old CD and nuke it for about 5-8 seconds"

later when I get home from the lake maybe...


FACT!


Posted by James_Dean


I liked the mohammad & RS mcSame ones better, though

Posted by Bani
_-------------_

I like the one where his turbin is a BOMB!

FACTOLA!

I feel honored. I had my own personal troll create an account simply for the purpose of attacking me. I feel so special. I never knew I was this important.

www.drudge.com

PS, Bani -- make sure the label side of the CD is down, business side up.

I had AOL in the early 90's right after bulletin boards were pushed aside by the WWW. Bulletin boards were fun.

They tried really hard to keep me when I moved to the first other ISP with more than one phone line.

As usual Goatman wins and this time he didn't even have to respond cause newbie Jerome stuck his own boot so far up where the sun don't shine he embarrassed even the pseudo-intelligentsia lefties here on the DR.

Especially please focus on what he will do to help my 67 year old father who was about to retire when he lost all of his retirment thanks to Enron

----

A 60 some year old had 100% of his retirement in one company's stock?

That either screams BS or the worst retirement planning ever.

thank you for the post and link to my statements goatman. I appreciate it..you really are sweeter than I thought. You like me..you really really like me...

You crack me up...but seriously could you please tell me an original thought. could you give me an opinion about something relevant that is not linked to someone else's statement. i will no longer allow you to pull me into your silly arguments.

Jerome,

What Enron did was inexcusable. Sorry about your father.

I did not come to be attacked by goatman and now you his lame little boy friend

Reality check. Who attacked whom first? Just because you teach third graders doesn't mean you have to act like one. Now go upthread and see between you and I, who slung the first mud and come back and admit it.

I don't even have to wait. I'll say it now:

*crickets*

TFD and I are pretty much opposite politically, but the ability to recognize ignorance is generally non-partisian.

I like the one where his turbin is a BOMB!

Posted by James_Dean

yeah, that was funi...

so were these:>)

The Results of Holocaust
Cartoon Contest-2006

www.irancartoon.com

I have just noticed that this is a right wind web site...my bad...i am going back to my normal weblog where people are nice and normal and not retarded...none of you say anything intelligent here...yes i attacked goatman only after being drawn in by his techniques...i was foolish for taking the bait yes, but the point still remains that you all at this site are sad little pieces of shyt that have nothing better to do than to say bahhhh what do you want me to do big cooperations? bahhh who should i hate now fox sean hannity? bahhhh who is it i should vote for now billo......I as a proud liberal, though, will support your right to speak idiotically as often as you want, but i now choose not to read it...one day of you lame assess was enough

goatman i did go back and look, my original statement was not directed at you at all...it was directed at the board at large...you check again dumb ass.

PIRATE

Enron's MO was to have their employees put most if not all their 401K's in Enron stock, all the while touting false figures to encourage unwitting further investments in Enron stock.

They froze the retirement accounts some time before they went belly up, and no one could pull their money if they wanted to. That's what I read when the hearings and trials were going on.

I moved to California in 1998, my family is still in Texas, yes my father worked in the PR department for 24 years,

Let's see: Enron went bankrupt in 2001. 24 years before that was 1977. Enron came into existence in 1985.

My father now lives only on social security, but has to work 10 hours a week at walmart for money for food. He can only work a limited amount of hours since he is on social security.

Another lie. The rules to draw SS changed a few years ago (under Bush, btw, since naming a president seems so important on the DR) so that a person can work full time and draw full SS benefits.

Can I keep a job even after I start collecting retirement, dependents, or survivors benefits?
Yes, and many people do just that. People who are past full retirement age may work and earn any amount without losing any of their Social Security benefits.


public.findlaw.com(1).html#05D9E393-00B6-4391-
8E94D7CB59C33F3C

If I had my way, I'd vote you off the island. I can't stand liars.

This is a liberal website.

It's hilarious how you pretend to be nice while hurling insult after insult.

I had AOL in the early 90's right after bulletin boards were pushed aside by the WWW. Bulletin boards were fun.

100% on that! I had an advantage, too. I worked for MCI and as a technician knew the maintenance switch codes so I could dial into any of them around the country for free. I wasn't limited to the local ones.

Then I went to GEnie, a service for General Electric. It was like a nationwide BBS -- still only text. Next waas Prodigy with its simple graphics, then I got a real internet account through the local college shortly before the first ISPs came out. Mindspring was a new one then. I had a great account name. They served only Altanta then so I was able to get my first name@mindspring.com. Finally dropped that one after 12 years when the spam became unbearable.

The Results of Holocaust
Cartoon Contest-2006
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I prefer to mock the pedophile and resist the librul tendency to embrace the religion of VIOLENCE!

FACT!

Attention Democrats:

George Bush is not running in 2008.

this is about Barry Obama and his complete lack of experience in foreign policy and his inability to understand how the economy works. He does not have experience in either area.

He is untested and is an empty vessel.

The good news is that he's articulate and clean, the first articulate and clean black candidate according to Joe Biden, Delaware Democrat. and Loser.

Change and Hope are meaningless words.

AU,

The employees still had a choice. I would rather lose the matching than to put most or all of my retirement in one company's stock.

Especially if I was close to retirement.

I prefer to mock the pedophile and resist the librul tendency to embrace the religion of VIOLENCE!

Posted by James_Dead

like Republicans & Zionists Politicians?

newsfromthewest.blogspot.com


goatman i did go back and look, my original statement was not directed at you at all...it was directed at the board at large...you check again dumb ass.

Goddam, you are a delusional little twerp, aren't you? Here is a link to your first post aimed at me, (second one ever on the DR) tooth and nail in full attack mode. Now show me a link where I said anything at all to you before 8:26. (AOL in 2003 doesn't count because it didn't happen.

Now see if you can come back and tell me what a fucking liar you are.


www.drudge.com

GOATMAN

Ya, Bulletin Boards sure were fun. We had a handful of really neat one's here. On one, after a few months, we all decided to hook up at a local restaurant and meet. Over 100 people showed up. Great folks. One of them lives right down the street from me now. In fact, she was one of my very first emails when I got AOL and the larger world opened up.

One thing I vividly recall from that era was when my buddy got a 66mhz computer. 3 of us just stood there and whistled "wow!!". He also had a new 2400 baud modem that we swore blew smoke it was so fast. LOL

Those were good times!

It's hilarious how you pretend to be nice while hurling insult after insult.

Posted by Pirate


a Rove wantabe?

The employees still had a choice. I would rather lose the matching than to put most or all of my retirement in one company's stock.

I may be remembering it wrong, but I think it was little of both: They had no choice in company's matching 401(k) contributions. Beyond that I think they could invest however they wanted. I'm not stating as fact because I don't feel like googling it right now.

Maybe jerome knows. LOL!

"like Republicans & Zionists Politicians?

newsfromthewest.blogspot.com"
----------------------


No Bani, just simply like the cild blooded murderers that they (and maybe you) are.

That is all.

Goatman,

You are correct, sir.

About 57 percent of Enron's 21,000 employees participate in the 401(k) plan. The company generally matches employee contributions at 50 cents on the dollar, up to 6 percent of their salary, with Enron stock, which cannot be sold and put into another investment until the employee reaches age 50. But Ms. Denne said workers otherwise ''have a range of options'' in which to invest their money.

query.nytimes.com

my brother just sent this in:

(for humanear?:>)


Do you have a home defribulator?


www.youtube.com

If I had my way, I'd vote you off the island. I can't stand liars.

Jerome????? explain please..... I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

rule to self....never do that.

No Bani, just simply like the cild blooded murderers that they (and maybe you) are.


That is all.


Posted by James_Dean

GW has me beat for sure this life time ~ sorry:>)

Posted by jerome08

Maybe you need to lighten up and learn a little humor. I hope you're not as tight-assed with your third graders.

Well, I think we can all acknowledge Enron was pulling a fast on one everybody.

If I was an employee, Enron was putting out false profit numbers, would match my 401 with company stock only, I'd have considered myself a fool for not investing where the company would match my contributions - especially since rosy pictures kept coming out one after another from management.

I say that as a person who was taken to the cleaners by a dishonest brokerage house. Rather than invest in blue chip stocks as I'd ordered, I found to my dismay they'd invested in all these startup biotech companies. After discovering this I called the broker and ordered him to divest me of all that crud. He didn't, and I lost 60% of my money.

After thinking long and hard about it, I called the broker, told him I could cost him his license forever (I'd taped my conversations), and that he just might end up in prison as well, but I'd rather not do that over a few ten thousand dollars. Not because of him, but the fact I'd rather not be slow burning for a few years until arbitration could take place.

Crickets were my response. Finally he said, "I'm sorry". I told him he certainly was and would have to live with that on his conscience for the rest of his life.

I didn't, and went on to earn that money back. I just felt that if I had that arbitration hanging over my head I wouldn't be nearly as productive. Think I was right on that count.

After thinking long and hard about it, I called the broker, told him I could cost him his license forever (I'd taped my conversations), and that he just might end up in prison as well, but I'd rather not do that over a few ten thousand dollars. Not because of him, but the fact I'd rather not be slow burning for a few years until arbitration could take place.


Crickets were my response. Finally he said, "I'm sorry". I told him he certainly was and would have to live with that on his conscience for the rest of his life.


I didn't, and went on to earn that money back. I just felt that if I had that arbitration hanging over my head I wouldn't be nearly as productive. Think I was right on that count.


Posted by AMERICANUNITY


I did a similar thing over $30k with a stock broker who didn't withdraw my money as I had asked & went on to lose $20k plus quite rapidly in his qwest to make up for other earlier bad trades w/o my permission at all!

anger can take you only so far before you have to let it go, forgive & move on with your life.

I hope you're not as tight-assed with your third graders.

I have to doubt that story as well.

from GoatmanGoddam, you are a delusional little twerp, aren't you? Here is a link to your first post aimed at me, (second one ever on the DR) tooth and nail in full attack mode. Now show me a link where I said anything at all to you before 8:26. (AOL in 2003 doesn't count because it didn't happen.
Now see if you can come back and tell me what a fuckin

Here is what he sent me at 821pm...he is a liar..this is before 826.


This is absolute racism and it is proof that this magazine is a right wing tool.
What if they did a similiar cover with a white person? What label would you put on it then since racist would no longer fit.
Get a clue -- it's a political satire. Why do people like you turn any negative comment on a black person a race issue. That is so juvenile.
I guess any political satire on obama is off limits then, isn't it? Because writing any is a sure sign of racism.
Grow up. It's the 21st century, jerome.

grow up is what you said to start the fight goatman..then i responded to your rude post..so dude you grow the fuck up and leave me alone you were wrong now what you got to say..crickets to you lame ass

sorry all had to leave to eat dinner...yes goatman and eberly enron was actually not named "enron" until 1979. Yes my father did work for the orginal company was Huston Natural Gas where my father worked..when internorth bought the company and changed the name in 1985 my father stayed on..I did not lie..get your facts straight man...I have mine straight, and i am delighted, acutally, that goatman took the time to explore my statements..

grow up is what you said to start the fight goatman..

You are right. My bad. What an evil thing for me to say. Now that I made that admission, do you want to admit to the class that you lied about your dad working for Enron 8 years before it came into existence and that you lied about his work hours are limited due to SS rules?

Then explain why we should believe anything else your wrote that can't be verified by a link to a website.

Jerome,

can help us out here....


Let's see: Enron went bankrupt in 2001. 24 years before that was 1977. Enron came into existence in 1985.



AND SO WHAT IF HE IS A MUSLIM??? aren't these the same people who preach that profiling is wrong and we need to be tolerant, etc, etc.. then they go around saying "don't worry" he's not a muslim.. as if being a muslim is a horrible thing. i happen to know some muslims, and they're not all terrorists. i think Obama and the rest of you owe the muslim community a huge apology. open your eyes!!!

I wish he was muslim:>(

get your facts straight man...I have mine straight,

So you stand by this statement? Yes or no.

My father now lives only on social security, but has to work 10 hours a week at walmart for money for food. He can only work a limited amount of hours since he is on social security.

Posted by jerome08 at 2008-07-14 09:04 PM

I would have a lot more respect for the guy if he just came out and said ya know what, i'm proud of my background, proud of my parents, and i'm living proof that not all muslims are civilian-killing idiots. instead he runs with the polls.. like a typical politician.

goatman here is the link

en.wikipedia.org

check here there is information about the original company. when my father worked with them as i said he was kept on, then his pension continued when the company became enron, no i will not admit it...also check socialsecurity website and you will see the limits that exist for people that have already retired when it comes to how much they can make, i mis-poke when i said it was hours, however that is how many hours he works in order to fall into the category that allows him to not go over income limits and still get social and medicare..so dont be rude and assume that just because you lie that everyone lies...can we now talk about something else

yes goatman and eberly enron was actually not named "enron" until 1979....get your facts straight man. I have minestraight

In 1985, it bought the smaller Houston Natural Gas and changed its name to Enron

en.wikipedia.org

Jerome. Answer my 10:19, please? Do you stand by your statement about your dad's work hours or not?

goatman here is a link describing income limits at social security

www.ssa.gov

now back the f off...you lose again...


Hey, I lived right by this area in 1979 (& saw my blatant daytime huge orange black horseshoe shaped UFO here, too:>)

Hi Bani ...

Several weeks ago, I emailed my list, including you, about
a new live experience I'm doing On October 16-21, in
Sedona, Arizona. It's called "A Path To True Joy."

The response to that email was extremely strong and at the
time of this writing, the event is 3/4 sold out. So:

www.bustingloose.com

also check socialsecurity website and you will see the limits that exist for people that have already retired when it comes to how much they can make

I did. In fact, I posted a link to that very thing upthread.

Retirees can now work full time and not lose a dime in SS benefits. Fact. Produce a link to counter that or admit you are a liar.

Jerome: Waiting to hear you admit you lied about your father's SS being limited due to him working full time. From the government's own SS site:

Starting with the month you reach full retirement age, you can get your benefits with no limit on your earnings.

www.ssa.gov

yes if they retire at 65 my father was so heartbroken that he retired once the company went bankrupt and he was only 60,
www.ssa.gov

en.wikipedia.org

both of these state that if you retire before 65 you face penalities, yes he is now 67 and no longer has to worry about how much he works, i see it says that now...my father and I were not aware of that ..he has been working for the past year and half thinking he was still held to those limits.

We both mistakenly thought it was permanant since he retired early. I admit that i was wrong on that, however, I did not know it until just now, so it was not intentional misrepresentation. I am going to inform him of this, now he can work 40 hours a week and not have his benefits effected, although I am not sure that at 67 he is going to want to work 40 hours.

I cant believe when you join the drudge report you have to prove and debate your fathers difficult situations because of greedy cooperations though..that is kinda sad..

thanks for the interesting deflowering goatman...i am moving on to put the kids to bed it is almost 8 here in california....please accept my apology for not knowing my father was no longer subject to the income limits...even if you did attack me for not knowing that the ss lady told him bogus stuff, or that he just did not understand....i still am now more aware of what he can do...but still....it was a not so friendly way to do it...

"yes if they retire at 65 my father was so heartbroken that he retired once the company went bankrupt and he was only 60, "


That's why John Wheeler moved to Texas: Mandatory retirement at 65.

Princeton sucks.

yes if they retire at 65 my father was so heartbroken that he retired once the company went bankrupt and he was only 60,

Well, boo fucking hoo. Why didn't you say so when you first described his SS benefits?

Why? Because when you made up that lie, you didn't know the rules until you googled to see if I was right. Just as you didn't know enron didn't exist prior to 1985 until you googled that after I challenged you. I can see through you, asshole.

I am going to inform him of this, now he can work 40 hours a week and not have his benefits effected

The first rule of effective lying is to quit instead of constantly trying to cover up previous lies with new ones. If what you said about your dad's age is true, you do not need to tell him. The SSA knows his age and will start the benefits automatically. Besides, what kind of retard is your dad that he doesn't keep up with benefits due to him, especially after allegedly being screwed by Enron? If anything, he'd be more wary of his benefits after that debacle.

You're pathetic. Go to that other blog that welcomes liars like you that you were telling us about. I, for one, am through with your BS.

I cant believe when you join the drudge report you have to prove and debate your fathers difficult situations because of greedy cooperations though..that is kinda sad..

Yep. When you are caught in mutually incompatible statements, you have to do exactly that or be thought of as an idiot and/or liar. But congratulations -- you've earned those badges in the few short hours youve been here.

PS: Do you teach punctuation and the proper use of capitalization to your students?

AU--

CA primary is not open--you vote the party you are registered with.

I was a registered Democrat for some 18 years or more. I registered Independent once and when they gave me the ballot in the primary it was for folks I never heard of. So I registered Dem. I voted back and forth for folks--Repub and Dem.

After 9/11 I went to the right of center.

Heck in the Primary for 2004 I voted for Edwards--and Kerry picked his butt for VP---Great! Losers..

And I voted for Bush in the general.

Obama was not known in February--he was hiding everything--great speech giver though.

When you learn what the guy stands for--it is not hard to vote against him.

McCain is far from perfect--but much safer and more trustworthy than Obama.

And I am not going to throw my vote away at Barr--did that with Perot--and look what happened--we got Clinton.

Even as an Obama supporter I see nothing wrong with the cover on The New Yorker. The people who read The New Yorker will get the joke. The Faux news crowd are the ones stupid enough to believe the rumors and the joke is on them.

..it was a not so friendly way to do it...

There's lots of bullshit on this site, and people are quick to challenge any point however insignificant. It gets rude when it's personal.

"There's lots of bullshit on this site"


Posted by OzarkAggie

No!

Really?

My, what an original observation.

MURPHY

You learned what?

-Obama's a Muslim? (wrong)
-He took the Senate oath on a Koran (wrong)
-He's a secret racist bent on African dominance (wrong)

I thought you had more smarts than to swallow all the hook, line, and sinker.

I thought people from San Diego were by and large a tad smarter than you're making yourself out to be.

If you're gonna bring up Wright, well then, you've never attended a charismatic evangelical church like I grew up in. Our preacher made Wright look like Billy Graham. I've watched a couple dozen of Wright's sermons. He's pretty tame, really.

The quote "We bombed Nagasaki, we bombed Hiroshima
was a quote from Ambassador Andrew Peck appearing on FoxNews.

Please come to reality. It won't matter if you do or don't. McCain doesn't stand a chance.

Ha! The Rolling Stone parody of McCrazy in a Tiger cage being poked by "gooks" with sticks is freakin' priceless.

The Obama pic satires the rightwing idiots who buy into the smears and lies.

The fact that Murphy doesn't understand the intent of the artist in making the satire is obvious.

Her unwavering belief in the rightwing smear campaign lies as unassailable truths is as pathetic as it is predictable.

Be Well.

PS: Fuck all PC Biatches.

My, what an original observation. Posted by Zatoichi

What would be original would be anything from you other than some trite remark, or a link to your impressive gallery of photos.

what do you people have against muslims???

"or a link to your impressive gallery of photos."

If you can call 5 or 6 photos a gallery.

why is it a smear, or a bad thing, to think that he's muslim?? not all muslims are terrorists.. whatever happened to liberals being tolerant and accepting, etc, etc... you don't even realize how hypocritical you're being!

You want quotes from Hagee, Falwell, other advisers of McCain?

You want to read McCain's 61 flip flops on major issues?

You want to talk about the refueling tanker deal McCain's top adviser lobbied for against American Boeing?

You want to talk about McCain's top economic adviser, Phil Gramm, and how his banking bill is the direct cause of the current mess?

You want to talk about McCain's trip to Iraq where he didn't know the difference between Sunni and Shia?

You want to talk about how McCain for years talked against lobbying but his entire top level staff are lobbyists lobbying from the back of his bus against our interests as citizens?

You want to talk about McCain's temper?

There's a LOT you seem to be all too willing to overlook about McCain in the name of racial bias.

There's lots of bullshit on this site, and people are quick to challenge any point however insignificant.

He's not new. He knows this. He came roaring out of the gate with me in his sights. He's obviously someone I pissed off in his past life.

''AMERICANUNITY''.. an ironic screenname, when all you do is spew partisan nonsense.

Go home MJP

You're an idiot - in all your handles.


MURPHY

You seem to be completely willing to overlook mind boggling flip floops by McCain on real issues and fall for nonsense and innuendo where Obama's concerned.

name-calling.. that's real american unity.. thanks for showing your maturity level.

MJP

I'm a 'patriot'.

You're a troll who thinks Rush Limbaugh hung the moon.

I'm livid at what the Bush administration has done to our country.

You're livid at God knows what.

Now go to bed.

I cant believe when you join the drudge report you have to prove and debate your fathers difficult situations because of greedy cooperations though..that is kinda sad..

----

Well, there's your problem. This is the Drudge Retort. Join the crowd on that mistake.

thanks, i'm glad you know me so well.

so why do you hate muslims? enlighten us, please.

-Obama's a Muslim? (wrong)
-He took the Senate oath on a Koran (wrong)
-He's a secret racist bent on African dominance (wrong)


All No AU--

First he started talking about his plans and his policies.

Then came his association with his spiritual mentor--Wright.

I ran from an abusive church with the kids in tow. It took three months and one day.

Obama is weak and all his talk about change and he couldn't bother to change his seat in the church or his pastor who spews hatred.

Spud-- I am not the only one who doesn't appreciate the satirical nature of the cover pic. Obama doesn't care for it either.

But I guess that doesn't matter to you.

i am not a Muslim, but if i were i would be appalled at the way Obama is ashamed of his heritage.. he owes Muslims everywhere a huge apology.

Emjaypee: why is it a smear, or a bad thing, to think that he's muslim??

A smear is an incorrect assertion.

Righty Tighty Asswipes are asserting that Obama is a "secret muslim", a mole, a sleeper agent fer Al Quaeda.

They do this because they want stupid Americans to fear Obama.

There are less stupid Americans this time out compared to the last couple of elections but it's still a really high number.

not all muslims are terrorists..

Who made that assertion?

whatever happened to liberals being tolerant and accepting, etc, etc...

Nothing. We are.

you don't even realize how hypocritical you're being!

You don't have a clue how ignorant yer being.

Yer crayons keep breaking.

Try again.

Be Well.

this guy is ashamed to be muslim and he wants to unite the world.. Allah help us!

MURPHY

Go to YouTube, type in "Trinity Church", and then find Wright's sermons.

You're basing your entire position on 10 seconds of video.

Wouldn't a more informed opinion serve you better?

I watched literally hours of his sermons, and I didn't see a radical. But, I spent the time because I wanted to know myself. If I'd seen what you suppose is there (that isn't) I wouldn't be saying this to you now.

If there had been dozens of such comments by him don't you suppose THEY would have been all over the internet and TV too? Ask yourself why you haven't seen more. Heck, like I said, one of the three quotes was QUOTING someone else who was a guest on FoxNews.

After listening to the context of the other two I got Wright's points. You can take anything out of context and twist it to mean anything you want.

So, do yourself a favor and do a little more digging before you come to a conclusion that seems to be based more on your personal experience than your knowledge about Wright and what went on most Sunday mornings.


why does Obama emphatically deny being Muslim.. as if it's a bad thing?

Righty Tighty Asswipes are asserting that Obama is a "secret muslim", a mole, a sleeper agent fer Al Quaeda.

so, all muslims are agents for al Quaeda? how narrow-minded are you?


You want quotes from Hagee, Falwell, other advisers of McCain?

Isn't Falwell dead? And McCain denounced the statement by Hagee and Hagee apologized--unlike Wright or Ayers.


You want to read McCain's 61 flip flops on major issues? Blah blah blah--


You want to talk about the refueling tanker deal McCain's top adviser lobbied for against American Boeing?

Yes McCain opened it open bidding and Boeing lost --all the jobs are still in US. (or is this another project?)


You want to talk about McCain's top economic adviser, Phil Gramm, and how his banking bill is the direct cause of the current mess?

Posted this on another thread--Congress voted this BS--they do it together. Is Phil a goofball--most certainly. About as much as Wesley Clark.


You want to talk about McCain's trip to Iraq where he didn't know the difference between Sunni and Shia?

McCain misspoke--but keep trying.


You want to talk about how McCain for years talked against lobbying but his entire top level staff are lobbyists lobbying from the back of his bus against our interests as citizens?

You are right and McCain let the folks go--And Obama threw his Wright advisor under the bus after three times--not including what he saw in the pews of his church for the last 20 years. But who is counting?


You want to talk about McCain's temper?

Heard of one episode--now he gets questions from reporters and fail to see flashes of anything--maybe annoyance. Don't go with the trollup BS--


There's a LOT you seem to be all too willing to overlook about McCain in the name of racial bias.

I take offense to this AU--I do not have racial bias--but I have said many times that folks who are in love with Obama will call the rest of us racists for not voting for the messiah.

That is transparent AU..

why is Obama running from his muslim heritage?

Murphy is the Church Lady and MJP prays to Allah.

Does anyone have an issue orientated objection?

MJP

You just proved you're a gullible fucking idiot

why is Obama running from his muslim heritage?

Maybe because he was raised by his mother's family who weren't Muslim.

Obama insults Muslims everywhere, everytime he says "don't worry, i'm not a muslim!" this guy thinks he can unite the world.. bleh. he's as racist and bigoted as any american politician.

"gullible fucking idiot".. name-calling will get you nowhere.. stick to the facts, please.

"Maybe because he was raised by his mother's family who weren't Muslim."

ahhh.. because muslims are evil, right?

You're basing your entire position on 10 seconds of video.
AU

You are being disingenous AU.

It wasn't just the videos--He spoke at the National Press Club and backed up everything on the videos and more.

Go youtube that!

And to go further--the only think we can count on from Obama is raising taxes--that the man has promised.

We have Fannie and Freddie (now who's bright idea was it to have TWO gov't lending institutions?)

They are broke and the govt is going to bail them out like Bears Sterns, IndyMac--plus the next 20 banks that go under.

And this Obama wants Universal Health Care.

We can't afford SS or Medicare or the Rx program--but he plans on 300 billion for his new ideas that we can't afford--

The man is what his pastor said--"a politician"! Who will say and do anything to get elected.

Did you hear what he said at La Raza today? He spewed out the false story about ICE taking away the baby from a nursing mother! He is a liar.

Check google for that--the story was in MA.

So go call someone else a racist--you are boring.

OZZIE

Don't these little right wing pricks take the cake?

A. Obama's grandfather worked for the Catholic Church in Kenya and converted when Obama's father was a teenager.

B. Obama's father renounced Islam long before he married Obama's mother

C. Obama has NEVER been a Muslim

But, try telling that to a twerp moron like MJP

If Rush says it's so it's so in his book.

I call that a gullible asshole.

MURPHY

I guess you were soaking in a bubble bath for days when Obama denounced and renounced those comments?

God, you take the cake.

OK, vote for someone who's gonna leave a world for your kids you're gonna regret by carrying on the policies of Bush. I could care less after all this from you.

You don't have principles. You're reacting on your emotions. How female.

"Obama has NEVER been a Muslim"

because being a Muslim is soooo terrible, right? whatever happened to acceptance and tolerance, and profiling being wrong?

i would have so much more respect for the guy if he just came out and said ya know what, i'm proud of my parents and my heritage, and i'm living proof that not all muslims are bad. but instead he runs from the polls, like a typical politician.. blah.

"-you are boring.

Posted by MURPHY at 2008-07-14 11:39 PM"

And you're an idiot who can't make a single post that isn't filled with "factual errors," i.e. lies.

MJP

Are you daft? Seems so.

Gullible asshole is what you are. Or just a garden variety asshole. Take your pick. Neither one's flattering.

You're an asshole in your other handles too.

Fuck off.

OK, vote for someone who's gonna leave a world for your kids ....

Murphy has kids????? Eeeeeeekkkkkk!!!!!

It appears as if Murphy has brought one of her bastard children to class.

so, all muslims are agents for al Quaeda? how narrow-minded are you?

Never sed that all muslims are agents fer AQ.

You just did.

Do you know wot a Strawman argument is?

Dude, yer circular reasoning is tedious, yer initial assertion that Obama is a muslim is blatently false and the rest of yer spew is just repetitive, illogical, childish shite.

You FAIL.

Be Well.

"We can't afford SS or Medicare or the Rx program--"

Bush's Rx program--a sop to Big Pharma--certainly does suck, you have that right, Murphy.

"Gullible asshole is what you are. Or just a garden variety asshole."

so many names, so little time.. you're boring us.

"Gullible asshole is what you are. Or just a garden variety asshole."

so many names, so little time.. you're boring us.

AU,

Was he or was he not registered as a Muslim in school? In "Dreams of My Father" he claims to have spent two years in a Muslim school. He's also recognized attending a Koranic studies class. He was also registered a Muslim in school.

From the AP: "Obama's mother, divorced from Obama's father, married a man from Indonesia named Lolo Soetoro, and the family relocated to the country from 1967-71. At first, Obama attended the Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisis, where documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather.

The document required that each student choose one of five state-sanctioned religions when registering _ Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Catholic or Protestant. Gibbs said he wasn't sure why the document had Obama listed as a Muslim.

"Senator Obama has never been a Muslim," Gibbs said. "As a six-year-old in Catholic school, he studied the catechism." SOURCE: www.washingtonpost.com

From Obama's OWN website: I was a little Jakarta street kid,-- he said in a wide-ranging interview in his office (excerpts are on my blog, www.nytimes.com/ontheground). He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics and more likely to be aware of their nationalism if he once studied the Koran with them.

Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (itll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.--

Frankly, the real issue is whether he's currently lying about his past. Was he or was he not registered as a Muslim student? If he was, then what does that mean?? That he wasn't a Muslim?

Why is Obama ashamed to be Muslim?

OH--so now I am a racist and emotional because I am a female. How liberal of you--always a default to name calling and personal attacks.

Do you talk like that with your wife? Honey you have no principles and only emotion because you are a woman??

Obama has no core--no principles--he lied about campaign finance, guns, death penalty, townhall debates, FISA, faith based programs, abortion and Iraq.

There are about 9-10 things he flipped on in the last three weeks.

www.politico.com

So great coming from a candidate of change and new kind of politician--so much for his core values.


And to go further--the only think we can count on from Obama is raising taxes--that the man has promised.

MURPHY

What? You make over $250,000 a year? You'll get a LARGER tax CUT under Obama if not.

I saw Wright's remarks at the Press Club. I also saw Obama denouncing them in the strongest terms.

I have to call you a liar to say you voted for him in the primary. You're all over the board.

Why does Obama denouce Wright, instead of supporting free speech like a good liberal?

Why does Obama denouce Wright, instead of supporting free speech like a good liberal?

Posted by mjp140 at 2008-07-14 11:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Great Question.

stick to the facts, please.

~MJP

A guy who has nothing to contribute to the conversation but the constant repitition of the same lie over and over and over again sez this?

That's almost funny ...but it's really closer to being sad.

Still, ...you did manage to troll at least a li'l attention yer way.

Next time you might wanna try changing it up a little. You know, tell one big Lie followed by a massive distraction followed by an obvious obfuscation followed by a half truth and then back to Big Lie again.

Is less boring fer the other saner posters, that way.

Just trying to help.

Be Well.

so many names, so little time.. you're boring us.


Posted by mjp140

us being who? AQ TROLLS working for GW?

AU--now you should be the one to go to bed.

His denouncement was too little too late. Political expediency.

And I guess you can keep going with the name calling--works really well for ya'.

And Null chirps in with liar liar too.

Either the posts are opinions or facts.

Obama is a flip flopper flip for his positions getting to the center. It's hilarious to watch and all you guys got is "you are a liar" or "your are a racist".

Great debaters.

Gotta go--later.

MURPHY

Attributing it to your female emotions is the only possible explanation for your being all over the board on Obama.

You voted for him. Now you hate him.

You make no sense whatsoever, but rather than get in a flame war over it I'm just going to ignore your Obama posts from now on.

You make no sense for someone who should be sensible enough to do some research of her own.

You've claimed he was a Muslim in the past. That just about proved my point right there.

what's the lie i'm telling? please enlighten us.

If you wnat 4 more years of Bush, be my guest.

Me and all my Republican friends are sick to death of that. But, if that's what you want have at it. It's a free country. At least for a time....


what's the lie i'm telling? please enlighten us.

Posted by mjp140

US? lie one?:>)

what's wrong with Obama being a Muslim? please, tell us.

why is the idea of Obama being a Muslim such a horrible thing?

Why does Obama denouce Wright, instead of supporting free speech like a good liberal?

Um, cos denouncing and rejecting the free (and crazy-assed) speech of others is a part of free speech itself.

News to you?

Besides, Obama didn't denounce and reject Wright himself just a couple of his more out there quotes.

Hate the sin and luff the sinner.

Neither Wright nor Obama can be accurately described as anti-American.

In terms of the values, shared ideals and mores of America, GW Bush his cronies and his designated heir John McLame are anti-American in the extreme.

Be Well.

If he WAS Muslim I guess nothing.

Your head is as think as the Great Wall of China.


why is the idea of Obama being a Muslim such a horrible thing?

Posted by mjp140


it's not really to me anyway, but you are just trolling for responses & perhaps succeeding in your infantile way:>)

"I guess nothing."

ohhh.. "i guess".. okay...

MJP

Since he ISN'T a Muslim, "I guess" is as good an answer as anything.....asshole.

well, isn't that the whole point? he's vehemently denying that he's Muslim, but at the same time pretending to be tolerant and accepting, etc, etc... he's a racist bigot, just like the rest of them (politicians in general)

Why does Obama denouce Wright, instead of supporting free speech like a good liberal?

Posted by mjp140 at 2008-07-14 11:56 PM


Like a "good" liberal he did both.

Why is Obama ashamed to be Muslim?

Posted by mjp140 at 2008-07-14 11:53 PM

Did you even read the article or did you just look at the picture? The article is about idiots just like YOU..

"asshole".. nice name-calling.. i used that in 7th grade.


well, isn't that the whole point? he's vehemently denying that he's Muslim, but at the same time pretending to be tolerant and accepting, etc, etc... he's a racist bigot, just like the rest of them (politicians in general)

Posted by mjp140


unfortunately he's apparently not a muslim...but do troll on for whatever thrill it may give you:>)

MJP

Since you're convinced Obama IS a Muslim (despite the wealth of evidence proving he's not), why don't YOU tell the class whether or not being a Muslim is a minus for a POTUS candidate?

Seems to be you think so, or the right wing Rushbots wouldn't spend so much time trying to make a big deal out of false rumors.

even Murphy isn't as lame as a poster as you, Mjp 69:>)

He's not a muslim.
Nothing wrong with being one...until hacks attempt to paint you as something you are not, in order to smear you.

Amazing that you can call the guy a muslim, MJP140...then out of the other side of your mouth consemn obama for rev. Wright.

He belonged to that CHRISTIAN church for 20 years.

You can't have it both ways, dude. That NYer satire was made to make fun of people like you.

"Did you even read the article "

the article is great!!! i love the new yorker. all i'm saying is he needs to follow through.. he can't beat the republicans by being nice!!! it's a sad fact, but it's reality.

Or, MJP, to put it in language you Rushbot idiots can understand:


BaaAAAAAA, Baaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaa baaaaaaaaaaaa baaa baaaaaaa baaaaAAAAA BBBBBAAAAAAAA baaaaaaaa

rushbots.. i assume you mean rush limbaugh.. never listened to the guy, or any talk radio.. i prefer music.

the article is great!!! i love the new yorker. all i'm saying is he needs to follow through.. he can't beat the republicans by being nice!!! it's a sad fact, but it's reality.


Posted by mjp140

sacrasm 101?

.. i prefer music.

Posted by mjp140


this ought to be good...

What kind of music do you like?:>)

personally i love rev. wright... we need more ppl like him speaking out.. i just wish obama would defend him, instead of denoucing him.. would have a lot more respect for the guy

ALEX

And went to Christian schools every year but 3rd grade. Catholic school before, Punahou Academy in Honolulu (Christian Academy) 5th through 12th.

Try telling that to idiots though and they'll turn around and repeat the same line to you.

God, America is full of idiots.


personally i love rev. wright... we need more ppl like him speaking out.. i just wish obama would defend him, instead of denoucing him.. would have a lot more respect for the guy

Posted by mjp140


disingenuous at best ~ from Sarcasm 102?

I think MJP is 101st trying to be witty - and failing as usual.

not sarcasm.. look, the dems need to take this seriously.. pie-in-the-sky romanticism is wonderful, but it doesn't win elections. the obama camp needs to crack down... i just don't think they're hitting hard enough.


not sarcasm.. look, the dems need to take this seriously.. pie-in-the-sky romanticism is wonderful, but it doesn't win elections. the obama camp needs to crack down... i just don't think they're hitting hard enough.

Posted by mjp140


enjoying your time in the sunlight here?

Can i ask a few serious questions of all you right wing staunch republican bush supporters on here. If we are fighting in Iraq to secure our freedoms, and all we here from bush and McCain is that "they hate us for our freedom" why did the bush admin and rep congress push through the patriot act that took away our freedom. (And spare me the whole some dems voted for it to argument, because they wont in control of brining legislation to the floor) Why do they insist on giving immunity to the telecoms for breaking the law and violating our freedoms, Why do republicans attack any american that excercises their freedoms? Could all you crazy lunatics please explain what freedoms our brave men and women are fighting for, because it seems to me that every day the bush admin is trying to do more and more to take them away from us.

MJP140- Are you a homosexual?

"asshole".. nice name-calling.. i used that in 7th grade.

Posted by mjp140

Well, after 3 or 4 years now you should be an expert.

honestly, i was a hillary supporter.. and was bummed at the nomination. ok, there, i admit it. but do i think obama has a real chance.. but he's too nice. he needs to hit harder.. goddamit, this is american politics.

ALEX

(see CRISPEE/101st's man crush for clues)

AU- I have a reason for asking. Wait and see.

MJP

Obama's been meeting the rumors, smears, and innuendo head on the whole campaign.

Some people just haven't been listening out of choice.

Alexandrite.. what's your email? the answer is yes, but i'm extremely curious how you came to that conclusion..

AU- I have a reason for asking. Wait and see.

C'mon Alex -- I see this one coming.

"honestly, i was a hillary supporter.."

cough, ok....

Monday, July 14, 2008

Clinton: GOP Should Apologize to America
"Our president goes to Japan four months before the election that will finally show him the door and says he's going to take global warming seriously," Clinton said. "Then as he's leaving the G-8 conference, says to people around him, 'Goodbye from the biggest polluter world in the world.' You've got to ask yourself, how did this happen to our country?" -- Hillary Clinton

Posted by corky

www.drudge.com

your place to be then:>)

ALEX

OK on your question....

As Seinfeld would say, "Not that there's anything wrong with that"

"Obama's been meeting the rumors, smears, and innuendo head on the whole campaign."

see, i don't think he has, not to my satisfaction, anyway.

oops. Try another EO protected species, Alex.

Goatman- It still works.

MPJ140- Why do you deny being a heterosexual?
what do you people have against hetersoexuals???
Why do you deny your heterosexual heritage?
ahhh.. because hetersoexuals are evil, right?

I hope you get the point now.

see, i don't think he has, not to my satisfaction, anyway.

Posted by mjp140

Doesn't seem anything would satisfy you, so happy McCain voting, eh?

what can i say... i'm one of the undecided.. either vote obama or stay home.. that's my choice. so far, i'm not crazy about the guy..

oh i just need to say that goatman is an asshole, he thinks he has me pegged, but i just read through most of his previous posts, for one thing the guy does nothing but attack other people. I never lied to him, he lied to me and attacked me and then swore at me, and this is my first day on the sight. Because i was not aware of some issues with ss that makes me a liar?

the guy repeatedly attacked me (most likely becuase he is a right wing tool) and then lied and said" you started it" oh give me a fucking violin so i can play for the little liar, he could not even look at his own posts and notice that yes in fact he did pick a fight with a newbie. maybe he gets off on it, in which case i would avoid his sticky keyboard at all costs.

the guy is a prick, he deserves a room at a sanitarium.

(if you're old enough to vote)

Jerome- How is it your first day on this site...if you said you spoke to goatman in 2003?

"Doesn't seem anything would satisfy you, so happy McCain voting, eh?"

no, not at all.. i just want a reason to vote FOR obama, not just against mccain. otherwise i stay home.

JEROME

I've met GOATMAN. He's a good guy.
Plus, he has a lot of time on his hands to debate.

Just be cool. He's alright and I'm sure you are too. It's easy to get heated on a blog. But, you never have to cross paths in the real world, so no biggie.

Goatman, I am referring to your attacks on me when you were posting to the AOL messages boards.

Ah. my bad.

How are you SURE this is the same guy?

There's only ONE goatman?

And who the hell saves AOL messages from 2003 and brings them to the retort 5 years later, then starts grilling people on their possible identities here?

Seems like paranoid schizophrenia, or a total lie, to me.

I think goatman is right, it is a pastlife thing...lol

"Jerome- How is it your first day on this site...if you said you spoke to goatman in 2003?"

alexandrite read the whole post, i said i believe his is a guy that gave me shyte on an aol message board..read the whole thing before you go quoting ...

could I have been wrong about the aol thing, yes i could have, does that change that he is an asshole, no it does not

Thank you for your very elucidating observation, Jerome. Where do you come up with such profound observations? Oh yeah, said you teach third grade.

BTW, do they still teach punctuation, spelling, and proper capital usage in third grade anymore?

Why do you even remember the name of a guy who gave you shit on an AOL chat board? Did he fuck your sister or something?

"I've met GOATMAN. He's a good guy.
Plus, he has a lot of time on his hands to debate"

maybe he needs to get a job

i just want a reason to vote FOR obama, not just against mccain. otherwise i stay home.

MJP

Well, your lack of initiative in seeking out answers to your questions suggest you should just load up on chips and dip and watch the returns come in.

I made a point of reading everything I could about all the candidates from both parties. It's all there to find..

Don't be unhappy with whatever result if you don't participate.


Why do you even remember the name of a guy who gave you shit on an AOL chat board? Did he fuck your sister or something?

Posted by Alexandrite

nasty, nasty FF lol

goatman, as i am sure you are well aware, the lame punctuation and grammar argument on a board like this is flimsy at best. tell me your job and I am sure I can come up with some silly snide remarks about it. that is lame....sell crazy somewhere else..were all stocked up here....ps all spelling, grammar, and capital mistakes were left in for your benefit.. If you would really like I could look at most of your posts and point out grammatical errors for you, but it is a lame argument so why bother. You are an asshole...get a fucking job

JEROME

His job is what enables him to have the time to blog.

Hey man, it's only a blog. I started talking with him about the space program one night months ago. It was refreshing to talk about something other than politics with folks around here.

I find I have a lot more in common with most people than differences.

Except the Rushbot assholes. I have to clean my screen after they've been on lest the pestilence invade my house.

There are people who make a point of being an asshole here every post, but GOATMAN's not one of them.

You are an asshole...get a fucking job

Posted by jerome08


he has one...self retorting now?:>)

no alexandrite he did not fuck my sister, but such vulgarity should be saved for your night at the trailer park bingo party.....have a pabst blue ribbon on me

There are people who make a point of being an asshole here every post, but GOATMAN's not one of them.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY


hey, don't ruin goaties reputation!

Look, all i'm saying is that Obama needs to step it up and take charge.. take the goddamn bull by the horns. he's too wishy-washy right now.. he has soooo much potential but he's wasting it.. i want (and i think america wants) boldness and self-confidence. i think hillary had that..

I live in a trailer park?

Guess that explains why they took my house away on wheels. Fuck!

maybe he needs to get a job

I've got one. One that allows for a lot of debate time.

MJP140- So we're done with the "denying something you aren't means you hate it" crap now?

Just checking.

american unity,
i believe he could be a good guy, but when i tried to extend an olive branch he lit it on fire.....so right now he is an asshole in my mind. i am sure he has a great job that allows him to blog, im sure it is something that does a great deal to contribute to the social fabric of our nation.

I left this site with a statement towards him that i did not intentionally mispresent my knowledge about my fathers ss benefits. he thought he could only work a certain number of hours to avoid losing money on ss...so he has been working minimal hours for the past year and half, when in fact he could have worked more hours, it was his choice not to, yes, but he was not aware of it, I guess maybe he is older, maybe we both should have been wiser about it, but for him to say boo fuckin hoo to me is just with out tact, and without common decency...he is a prick that has obviously been jaded or offended or raped in the ass, and now has to take out his frustrations on innocent people coming to share their opinions about magazine cover...

"your lack of initiative in seeking out answers to your questions"

no, no, no.. Obama needs to do that for himself.. goddammit this is a national election, not a PTA meeting!!!

tell me your job and I am sure I can come up with some silly snide remarks about it

Sure. But let me warn you. You have some stiff competition. I've heard a lot. And actually some are pretty clever.

I'm an ET on an offshore oil rig. Go for it, dude.

nasty, nasty FF lol

That was darkly, yet richly humorous.

what is your job goatman?

MJP

You're seeing him though your own set of glasses.

It doesn't seem you've spent a second and a half doing your own research.

Kind of akin to Hillary supporters who say they'll throw out all their principles and vote for McCain out of spite because she didn't win, regardless of the fact she had more money to start with, a household name, but idiots on her team she stuck with even when it was clear they were incompetent.

I've seen too much of that loyalty bullshit in the WH these last 7 1/2 years to tolerate that argument.

sell crazy somewhere else..were all stocked up here....

Jack Nicholson -- As Good as it Gets.

Maybe bad grammar and puntuation are allowed, but plagarism not. Cite a quote, please.

If you would really like I could look at most of your posts and point out grammatical errors for you

I'm sure you could. That's why I did not go into the teaching profession.

MJP140- So we're done with the "denying something you aren't means you hate it" crap now?

he just needs to come out and SAY that.. (the "not that there's anything wrong with that" line). it may be obvious to you, but ppl need to hear that.. where the hell is axlerod in all this??? god, he should be on top of this shit

i think hillary had that..

Posted by mjp140

yeah, right...

see my post here on Marytylerwhores post on the other Corky post on her/his favorite lady:>)


Monday, July 14, 2008

Clinton: GOP Should Apologize to America

Well, uh, thanks for the sound bite and the giggle, Hill, but you're overlooking the real culprit du jour, Chancy Nancy Pelosi.


Because that vile woman will not allow impeachment proceedings to get anywhere, America's going into mass despondency. We - for the sake of our stock markets, financial markets, prestige abroad, and national psyche - need some accountability for the excesses, incompetencies and failures of the past seven-and-a-half years. Because of That Thing That Calls Itself Madam Speaker, it's looking more and more like we ain't a-gonna get it.


If Hill wants to put some motion in the ocean, she'd be well advised to start acting like the leader she says she is and go mano-a-manicured-mano with Madam Thang, taking Nancy on and getting the job the hell done. Getting Dennis Kucinich's articles of impeachment dragged out of the gulag of committee and put on the table would do this country more good than almost anything else I can think of.


C'mon, Auntie Hill. We need a little Christmas.


Posted by MaryTylerWhore


Hell, I would probably surport her for President at the convention personally ~ if I could ~ if she did that!

Posted by Bani
www.drudge.com

There are people who make a point of being an asshole here every post, but GOATMAN's not one of them.

You're going to ruin my rep. *g*

Jerome -- yes, I really am an asshole.

actually goatman, I've changed my mind, number one it is a tool used by a weak debater to attack someone's job when they are reaching for something because they have no other retort, besides your job speakes for itself

sirport her? stirport her? suppport her...damn, how does it go ~ teach?

goatman,,,really is it from a movie? are you sure? no shit sherlock..everyone knows that

you talk like a person with a paper asshole (Source: my mother)

besides your job speakes for itself

Yes it does speak for itself. It brings you the power you need to go online and tell me that my job speaks for itself.

time to microwave cds now...!

Cmon, anyones job is easy to make fun of...

Goatman ended up on a rig for a simple reason. Being stuck on the water with a bunch of dumb, but sexy, male hicks.

The navy just wasn't gay enough for goatman. ;)

you talk like a person with a paper asshole (Source: my mother)

At first I wondered exactly how someone with a paper asshole spoke, but suddenly I wondered, do they need to wipe their ass after they shit, or is that done automatically?

"Yes it does speak for itself. It brings you the power you need to go online and tell me that my job speaks for itself."

could you source that, because I was under the impression that over only 3% of our power comes from oil....try again buddy.

www.chrisp.com
heres your damn source

time to microwave cds now...!

Let me know what you think, Bani. Remember to watch it. It was what happens during, not after that is so cool.

COOLLLL:>)

The navy just wasn't gay enough for goatman.

I thought the 5 to 10 I did in Huntsville after the stint in the USN would do it for me, too. But it didn't so my last hope was indeed offshore life.

"The navy just wasn't gay enough for goatman"

hey, hey, hey... i dated a navy guy

hey, hey, hey... i dated a navy guy


Posted by mjp140


was she cute?

could you source that, because I was under the impression that over only 3% of our power comes from oil....try again buddy

OK. I'll try again. 12.3% (using your link). Natural gas comes from holes that we drill, too.

So you can thank me for ~1 in 8 words you post.

You're welcome.

COOLLLL:>)

I told you! I haven't done a DVD yet. I wonder if they are better since they are double layered?

closer to 1 in 10, or 1/10th, you round down to 10% not up to 20%

was she cute?

You tell me.

sailor boy

actually goatman, wouldnt you have to say that it is far less than that since you only work on one oil rig, the rig you work in maybe provides a fraction of one percent of oil, so don't over emphasize your contribution, do you stand by your statement that your rig provides 12.3% of the power in the entire united states.

I know it is lame to hold you to that, but hey just giving you a taste of your own medicine

As for me, i'm self employed.

Boss is an asshole, though.

closer to 1 in 10, or 1/10th, you round down to 10% not up to 20%

???

OK, I'll buy your excuse for the poor grammar, punctuation, math, etc. that everyone on the blog does it, but bad math?

I said 12.3% and ~1 in 8.

12.5% is exactly 1 in 8.

Glad you never taught my kid.

Boss is an asshole, though.

Paper?

do you stand by your statement that your rig provides 12.3% of the power in the entire united states.

I never made that statement, so no, I do not stand by it.

"12.5% is exactly 1 in 8. " ok ok, your right, my bad.. my bad

Anyone here but me think that jerome is yet another boyd/badweek/cooper/kazak/
betelg incarnation?

"So you can thank me for ~1 in 8 words you post."

do you stand by that statement?

I told you! I haven't done a DVD yet. I wonder if they are better since they are double layered?

Posted by goatman


the cd I used sparkled on both sides as I could see it reflecting on clear plastic it was on in the microwave. The cd was an old 2 sided self recorded one...

got to show this to some people now:>)

goatlove I can honestly tell you that this is my first day here, i am not incarnation of anyone who you have slighted before me, perhaps you might want to think about why you have a list of 5 people that come to mind easily that post on here, that you have offended, or have stood up to you. One time is a fluke, 5 plus me is more of a pattern, i would explore that if i were you, use some of your free time to look inward, and stop looking at all the oily men on your rig

Let me know if you try a DVD, Bani.

Hell, I'll just go dig one up that I can part with.

do you stand by that statement?

Yep.

Sorry to butt in, but how long do you put the cd in the microwave and is it on full power?

and stop looking at all the oily men on your rig

I can't help it. I can't help it. People get really oily at their jobs here, and I don't think they will try to change that just for me or you.

But actually it is usually drilling mud that gets everyone filthy, not oil.

how could your oil rig provide 12.3% of the power in the united states, which in turn would allow you to take credit for 1 in 8 words I type, I was under the impression that there were many oil and natural gas sources in the US,

You are an idiot

how could your oil rig provide 12.3% of the power in the united states, which in turn would allow you to take credit for 1 in 8 words I type, I was under the impression that there were many oil and natural gas sources in the US,

You are an idiot

, use some of your free time to look inward, and stop looking at all the oily men on your rig

Posted by jerome08

lol...first point for rome

Sorry to butt in, but how long do you put the cd in the microwave and is it on full power?

Full power = yes. 5 seconds is about as long as the show lasts.

how could your oil rig provide 12.3% of the power in the united states, which in turn would allow you to take credit for 1 in 8 words I type, I was under the impression that there were many oil and natural gas sources in the US,

It can't

You are an idiot

Posted by jerome08

but a fun one...are you as fun?

than how can you stand by your statement?

but seriously, can i ask you a serious question and stop the back and forth drama

You are an idiot

Says the teacher who knows only one of the three Rs. And what with voice reproduction software, I even can't be certain of that one. LOL

Full power = yes. 5 seconds is about as long as the show lasts.

Posted by goatman

I got 8 sec

than how can you stand by your statement?

I am part of a large team. It takes all of us to make the bit turn to the right.

and stop the back and forth drama

Posted by jerome08


are you a female, too?

but seriously, can i ask you a serious question

Judging by what I've seen so far, I'd say 'no', you are not able to.

ok, point received, i now know why you are so angry and have such pent up bitterness, you need to fucking get laid. maybe when you come in from the ocean rig, you can hook up with alexandrite and get your rocks off so that you are not such an angry bitter old man

goatman, was this article about you?

"Also, a ruling by the Supreme Court in 1998 involving a Louisiana man who claimed he was sexually harassed by his male manager while working on an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico, made it clear that men are protected from such harassment at work under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964."

were you sexually harassed by your manager?

www.msnbc.msn.com

ok, point received, i now know why you are so angry and have such pent up bitterness, you need to fucking get laid.

The old "you-are-so-angry-and-bitter" retort coupled with the, "you-need-to-get-laid" retort.

*yawn*

You need to stop eavesdropping on your third graders so much.

were you sexually harassed by your manager?

Nope. I wasn't even in the oil patch in 1998. But if it completes your fantasy, I'll change my answer for you.

The old "you-are-so-angry-and-bitter" retort coupled with the, "you-need-to-get-laid" retort.
*yawn*
You need to stop eavesdropping on your third graders so much.


this from the man who had the grammar retort

...... those who live in glass houses.....

yes it does complete my fantasy..it would help me to relax before going to sleep if i could imagine you in such a "sticky situation" the more i talk with you the more you turn me on...i imagine you with rippling muscles, and a full head of hair, packing an "oil drill" that most girls die for. not to mention the whole fake macho act, i swoon for that most of all

this from the man who had the grammar retort

...... those who live in glass houses.....

As I said, that's why I didn't take up a profession in teaching.

If I taught, yeah, the glass house thing would be appropriate.

You get another try. But don't make me have to explain it to you for a third time.

not to mention the whole fake macho act,

???

yep, a pastlife freak freaking for goatie...

well, you know goatie had one coming...wish it was BB, though...he's funnier

it still applies, your statement was in regards to my retort and how it was lame and weak, yours was just as lame and weak regardless of my profession, you need not explain anything to me, you may need to say such things to stroke your ego, or appease your god complex, but you are just as weak with your retorts as of late as I have been with mine,

so .......those who live in glass houses......... still applies

ummmm goaty do you know what im doing now....hmmmmm yummy

what is this?

Atlas Shrugged meets The Fountainhead?

goodnight goaty....i hope to see you in my dreams, right after i rinse off the cucumber I am dreaming is you...

i mean pickle

wish it was BB, though...he's funnier

He is, at that.

yep, a pastlife freak freaking

Yep. And I'm convinced it is boyd/kazak/badweek/cooper/
betelg. The style is too similiar, he is one of the few up this late, even his denial style.

Also notice, Bani I made the suggestion at 8:35 and at 8:38 he shows up for one post, then its all jerome after that. Too much of a coincidence.

Yep, it's him all right.

I'll bet you get pissed being outed so easily, cooper et al

goaty do you know what im doing now....

creating another user account since this one was blown so quickly, boyd?

goaty you really are way to paranoid....i wish there was some way i could convince you i am not a "past life" or what ever you lame computer geeks call someone that recreates a screen name...but i am sure you have some way for me to prove to you that i am not your ex lover....and it is not that late here it is only 11

good nite:>)

i wish there was some way i could convince you i am not a "past life"

Almost verbatim from one of his other transitions.

There is no way. Your identity is too blatant

I AM NOT fucking boyd....i am jerome08, first time here, first day at this site....what can i do to prove my fuckin revulsion for you is new and fresh and not recyclyed from one of your past lovers

on a serious note here, have you ever considered goaty that there is no past life person this time or the other time you claim have happened. have you ever considered that there is more than one person that thinks you are a complete and total waste of space on this planet becuase of the way you talk down to people and treat them like shit. perhaps you have pissed off more than one person in your life on this site, you have a disorder, why not start to take ownership of yoru actions, maybe then you could meet a woman and stop the lonely bachelor life you lead, trust me women dont like paranoia

I AM NOT fucking boyd

whatever. And you dad has to limit his work at wallmart lest he lose SS benefits. And he worked for Enron 24 years.

you ever considered that there is more than one person that thinks you are a complete and total waste of space on this planet

Of course I have. Most people feel that way, cooper.

maybe then you could meet a woman and stop the lonely bachelor life you lead

Who said I lead a lonely bachelor life?

Oh, the liar did.

good bye my friend....find comfort in your paranoia, perhaps it will tuck you in and kiss you goodnight..you will be in my prayers...


ps. peak oil has already happened, and you will be out of a job very soon, you do nothing to contribute to the social fabric of our nation, great you help to provide power, and you help to melt the polar ice caps, and are one cog in the great oil industry that his driven this country and the environment into the ground...when we are all starving without food due to the lack of energy because oil is gone (and you and your bosses focused on the past energy sources and did not look towards the future and alternative sources) then you will remember that you contributed to the ills of this country..how can you sleep at night with the job you have.

yes i said i would not attack your job, but sometimes the only way to beat a snake is to join him

Who said I lead a lonely bachelor life?
Oh, the liar did.

typical response from a lonely loser.......dont forget to cuddle up with that dirty sock tonight

you will be out of a job very soon,

Highly unlikely. ETs can get a job anywhere. We aren't confined to oil rigs. I just choose to work there because I like getting 26 weeks off a year and the pay is great

typical response from a lonely loser.......

The lonely loser response is old. Get some new material. How about homo or dog fucker or something?

What do you call a person whose typical response is "you'll be out of a job soon", "you help melt the polar ice caps", "you do nothing to contribute to society", etc. all in one post. LOL

I like getting 26 weeks off a year and the pay is great

some people live for money some live for playing the game, others live to change the world and make it better than they found it, i will live on once im gone, no i will never have lots of money, but you ..you will have money and no one will remember any contribtution you have made to this planet...

do your self a favor and find a job in something that does something worthwhile, find a job that will make the world a better place than before you were here..your money will do you no good when you are dead and gone.

and you help to melt the polar ice caps

LOL. Just a little lesson for the ignorant: Pulling the oil out of the ground does not melt the polar ice caps. However, there are many who think that burning it in their car does.

Do you drive?

You're a funny guy, kazak

yes i said i would not attack your job,

Attack it all you want. Are you really so vain that you think anyone cares?

Besides all you do is underscore your hypocrisy and I find that amusing.

"I'll attack your job, but PLEASE don't stop doing it. I like driving too much. jerome"

*yawn*

Your weak attempts to paint me as a loser, lonely guy, whatever are really becoming trite. Can't you come up with some new material?

do your self a favor and find a job in something that does something worthwhile

It is worthwhile. You do enjoy the benefits of transportation, don't you?

You just can't bring yourself to be honest (what a surprise) and admit that you cannot get your lips off of big oil's tit. At least I'm honest with myself, badweek. I don't pretend that I don't need something that I am hopelessly addicted to as you do.

You tell me to get a job that's meaningful. May I suggest you get a personality that is meaningful? One that has no self-deception involved?

BTW, kazak -- say what you want of me. I don't give a fuck. I'm a very happy person and do not want to change my life a bit. So if you think I'm going to find a new job, get a new girlfriend, whatever to please you, all I can say is: GET OVER YOURSELF! I'm not living my life for you.

you can hook up with alexandrite and get your rocks off

But I don't like drilling in the mud...lol

But I don't like drilling in the mud...lol

Now that was clever. Took me a couple of seconds to catch the joke, though.

Nice to see you branching out, goatman. Now when bob isn't here, you have other fish tanks to tap on.

I'm out for the night, i think. Off to watch National Lampoons vacation. Have a good one.

Buenas noches, amigo

Why do people on this blog always assume that if you don't like Obama your a Republican or racist?

Even Democrats don't like Obama or Libertarians or Constitution Party. The only one tha has fallen in love with this guy are radical dems, socialist party, and American Communist party.

Let's face it this guy is lying to the people and saying anything just to get elected. One day he is the reincarnation of Regan and the next day he is FDR come back from the dead. It all depends on the crowd he is in front of.

He is like a lizard that changes colors to match his surroundings.

The only reason why people are voting for this guy is because they think they are making history by putting a black guy in the white house. I don't want a token president I want a qualified president: Black, white, yellow, red it don't matter as long as they have the qualification and experience which Obama lacks.

www.reportonamerica.com

He's got miles to go to beat McCain's 61 flip flops on every issue

You fucking moron

He's got miles to go to beat McCain's 61 flip flops on every issue

You fucking moron


He's got miles to go to beat McCain's 61 flip flops on every issue


You fucking moron

Posted by AMERICANUNITY

don't worry--he will catch up!..he's young.

Uh, huh.

McCain's done that many in only a year.

Keep trying to spin though.

BTW, did you know Bush gave the Taliban $43 million in May 2001?

I guess somehow in the right wing twisted mind that was perfectly OK. Even though we'd been trying to kill Bin Laden for a couple of years.

You right wing Rushbots are another life form that only resemble humans.

I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT! I LOVE IT!

AMERICANUNITY: (AMERICANDICKHEAD) It looks like we have another Kerry. FLOP EARS WENT FIP FLOP.

Here's to the genius Barry Blitt, the man whose creativity evoked so much of a response.

Here's some of his material Just google "Barry Blitt" for more.

www.drawger.com

It's amazing the sensibilities dispalyed by the lefties, who are "offended" by the cartoon cover, and yet somehow are not averse to calling Cheney and Bush "Nazis."

There must be an on-off switch somewhere that makes some things more offensive than others. Cheney and Bush are fair game for the most offensive depictions. And there seems to be little reticence to wish them ill physically and otherwise, but suggest that a leftist idol has some unattractive attributes, and you find yourself in a warp with entirely different standards.

Raving leftists remind me of evangelists denouncing people as going to Hell because they do not share cosmological belief systems. These lefties are just as controlling, and have the certitude of the evangelicals, whom so many of them purport to despise for their closed mindedness. Maybe, just maybe, they see their underlying nature in intolerant evangelicals and are reviling themselves.

Okay. Who is more structured, totalitarian, and close-minded than an avid leftist girding his loins in his unrelenting battle against "political evil?" No one?

JOHNSON

You've convinced me you're a Moonie.

Guess who got Moon out of a scrape in Japan in the 90's?

George W Bush.

Sun Myung Moon is buddy/buddy with the GOP.

Now the Obama-ites and race-panderers in general are upset because on the McLaughlin Report, the host reportedly asked if Jesse Jackson did not have a basis in considering Obama to be an - wash my input fingers off with strong soap for inputting such a word -"an oreo," black on the outside and white on the inside. Gosh! Obama is criticized for chastising blacks concerning their perceived communal deficiencies. Jesse Jackson wants to emasculate him for feigned heresy.

After all, it is de rigeur to play the victimization card. Obama is pretty sure that he cannot alienate the black vote, so he needs to cater to undecided white voters by assuring them of his "moderation" and that he is separate from "those blacks," by publicly (and for the first time) rebuking blacks for what he declares as their shortcomings. Is it a modal perception? Now Obama is throwing blacks generally under the bus.

But the extremist lefties don't recognize political maneuvering and are intolerant of it. You need to proclaim your extremist views stridently and take the consequences because being "correct," preaching the dogma, embracing the gospel, is the most important thing to leftist extremists, who can't conceive of anyone opposing their saintly views. In the name of "the goal," let's kill a few million kulaks. Right. "The goal." "The end." Andlefty extremists are "true believers, who embrace with certainty of the portended effectiveness and virtue of "the model" that they conceive.

By golly, it's time for voices from the left to speak regarding Obama and Obama-ites.

Here's a not too flattering view from Tom Tomorrow.

www.salon.com

And here is an article from Salon regarding the response to the cartoon cover.

www.salon.com

wash my input fingers off with strong soap for inputting such a word -"an oreo," black on the outside and white on the inside

Well now that you have jism washed off, just how do you think a ghetto nigger like Jackson would respond to someone who really was half African and half White? Raised by White Folks. Hugged and kissed by a white woman - never mind she was mommy or granny - he got the sugar didn't he? Pure Cane White Sugar. And all that effort he went to not to make White People afraid of him, showing his pearly Whites so they could see him coming. He ain't no Gangsta.

You know johnson, you're a guy who should really take pity on the rest of us and limit your time on the board. Your pretentious diction and prolific prose make you a prodigious bore.

This I believe is a little closer to reality.

www.agoravox.com


"Not to mention, Americans really want the world to like them, which is a silly desire shared by no other nation on earth."

"So, in order to remedy that, they vote and nominate a Black man with an arab middle-name who comes from a Muslim Background, as if saying, "Here! This is how far we all willing to go. Do you like us now?"


"That being said, I will feel bad for Obama when this eventually happens though, because unlike every other President before him, Obama isnt just running as himself, he is running as the Black Candidate, so when he fails, its not just him that will be looked upon as a failure, but his race with him. The nice white people of America will congratulate themselves when he is elected for no longer being a racist nation (they did elect a black man after all) and when he fails they probably wouldnt run another Black candidate for President for another 30 years or so. Not to mention, after Obama, being a black candidate wont be a big deal anymore. The novelty wouldve worn off, and the candidates will be assessed based on their experience and their plans, instead of just being an inspiring notion whose time has come as a Black Man for President of the USA. I hope this wouldnt be the case, but, ehh, I doubt it!"

The link was to an interesting article.

Thanks.

Posted by OzarkAggie at 2008-07-15 09:17 AM

,,, you a prodigious bore.

Thanks for the compliment, Ozark, I always wanted to be good at something.

He's got miles to go to beat McCain's 61 flip flops on every issue

You fucking moron

Posted by AMERICANUNITY


AU - WTF with the instant swearing attack? You may need to switch to half-cups of coffee, my friend. You had been a lot more civil than this previously.

I copied this post off of another thread.

Is this statment attributed to Obama, true?

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From Dreams Of My Father;
The emotion between the races could never be pure.. THE OTHER RACE (WHITE) WOULD ALWAYS REMAIN JUST THAT: MENACING, ALIEN AND APART--

Fucking tool JOHNSON

Fake quote: "The emotion between the races could never be pure..... the THE OTHER RACE (WHITE) WOULD ALWAYS REMAIN JUST THAT: MENACING, ALIEN AND APART" - taken from "Dreams from My Father"

To assist them in "helping" us understand that Obama meant "WHITE", the libelist leaves out several key parts phrases such as "Whether WE sought..." and "...missing in OURselves" to avoid the messy reality that Obama is, in fact, talking about all of us - not just whites. Also conveniently left out is that he had just transferred to Columbia and, when his idealism hit the reality of New York, Obama began to acknowledge the challenges of living an authentic, integrated life in such a reality without finding "yourself on the side of the line that you'd never intended to be on." (page 122)

When his mother and sister visit, they find him in the midst of "this humorless mood". (page 122) There are some moments during that visit followed by similar memories (pp 123-4) that cause Obama's over-idealistic image of black community and racial harmony to plunge into an equally over-pessimistic view as he realizes:

Actual quote: The emotions between the races could never be pure; even love was tarnished by the desire to find in the other some element that was missing in our selves. Whether we sought our demons or our salvation, the other race would always remain just that: menacing, alien and apart." (page 124)

Sounds like a young guy getting hit with life's realities - no?? Given the context, this is one step on that journey - not the end.

So, JOHNSON that's a no to your question

"I copied this post off of another thread.
Is this statment attributed to Obama, true?"

You do know how to google, don't you, Johnson?

Before you post more shit, please consider checking this blog out and then work your way toward reason and sanity from there: my.barackobama.com

Andrew Sullivan asks, "How would the Republican base react to this:
andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com

Doc, the Atlantic cover is not far from the truth. They did leave out McCain using military transports to visit his model/girlfriend in Brazil.

Are you saying the New Yorker Cover is also not far from the truth?

Andrew Sullivan asks, "How would the Republican base react to this:
andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com

Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2008-07-15 04:41 PM

thx Doc I needed that!

Mr. Poopypants drooling and singing

Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran!

Frickin Halarious


btw - the New Yorker Cover was Frickin Hilarious too in a different kind of way... It brought all the Lying Idiots out and preaching the Hollow Lies again as though they were the truth...so sad..

Now at least we can see clearly who THEY are!

So can President Obama start an Lying Idiot Watch List (kinda like Bush's Terrorist Watch List)?

I bet we can get a Million on that list in no time too!

Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2008-07-15 01:37 PM

You do know how to google, don't you, Johnson?

Yes I do, Doc, but you do know, don't you, that there are other sources than google for information.

I posed a question. It was answered. I don't think that the actual quote exculpated Obama from the meaning that I attributed to his statement.

I do rely on the accuracy of the statement that AU posted even though I disagree with his interpretation.

Here is the quote as AU posted it.

Actual quote: The emotions between the races could never be pure; even love was tarnished by the desire to find in the other some element that was missing in our selves. Whether we sought our demons or our salvation, the other race would always remain just that: menacing, alien and apart." (page 124)

For me, it seems that Obama is acknowledging his alienation from the larger society and his view of himself as "other." His subsequent activities certainly illustrate that.

I find that Obama engages in dissimulation quite frequently. For example, he denies any Islamic influence in his life despite the fact that his father was a Muslim, his half-brother is a practicing Muslim (and claims that Obama is also a Muslim), and Obama's stepfather was a Muslim, and Obama has stated that he studied the Quran early in life. He changes his positions to accommodate political purposes such as those on FISA, Iraq, and what have you. So his subsequent reconciliation with America does not, considering his actions, indicate that he disowned his declaration as set forth in the quote.

The elements that shaped Obama trouble me. He never seems to have been engaged. I would never consider voting for him. There are black men for whom I'd vote such as Dr. Sowell, so I would note that it's not race, but rather the lifelong alienation that Obama demonstrated in his affiliation with Rev. Wright, his mentor, and Obama's affiliation with other alienated white people such as bomb-thrower Ayers, also a person disaffected from America, and the radical Catholic Priest, that causes me to consider Obama unfit to participate as a leader of a country of which he is not an integral part. Obama's life provides the trail of evidence of his disaffection and alienation.

The elements that shaped Obama trouble me. He never seems to have been engaged.

Johnson, do you apply the same level of Dr. Phil psychoanalysis of a politicians childhood and upbringing to all candidates?

If so, could you benefit us with your take on McCain's relationship with HIS mother and father. Or maybe even how his habitual infidelity might influence his decision making as President.

Or how his experience as a Keating Seven crook has shaped his conservative values and worldview.

The New Yorker's Willie Horton Incident

Cut to 2008. In its July 21 issue, in an unconscionable display of poor taste, racial insensitivity, fear-mongering and bad timing, the venerable highbrow literary journal New Yorker put a cartoon on its cover depicting Democratic presumptive nominee Sen. Barack Obama and his wife Michelle as fist-pounding, machine-gun-toting, flag-burning Muslim terrorists. What on Earth were they thinking? Just some 'good-natured satire' designed to mock America's racist dumbasses, right? But the humor has fallen way short of what was intended. Quite frankly, the cover is incredibly offensive and highly irresponsible.

ostroyreport.blogspot.com

reading this blog it is clear to me that the bush regime succeded in dividing this country. people are in one side or the other, there is not in between, why is every issue left or right. what happened to being a unified america. that is what the founding fathers hoped for when the pushed the idea of federalism.

The bush regime wanted this country divided so that we could "hate the other guy" or think" the other guy is crazy" it is all meant to keep us from coming together as a country and actually solving problems. It has kept us from really finding a solution to the Iraq debacle, it has kept us from preparing for the current energy crisis, even after enron, and the rolling blackouts in california and the book power outage on the east coast in 2003....we all saw that coming, but the current admin made sure we were all divided on the issue so that we kept our heads in the sand and "stayed the course" in every way.

when will we be american citizens again, and not democrats or republicans...when will we actually come together to make this country as great as it could be and once was.

The New Yorker used to stand to utmost integrity, their cover is something that I'd expect on the Onion. I guess time has changed and I am canceling my subscription.