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Saturday, July 12, 2008

Conservative commentator and former White House press secretary Tony Snow has died of colon cancer at age 53. Snow served 17 months as President Bush's press secretary, a tenure interrupted by his second bout with cancer.

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Rest in peace Tony

What a waste of his last years -- shilling for the most reprehensible administration in history. Sure, the ride must have been thrilling. But, man, couldn't he have more (and better) thrills whitewater rafting, and hiking the Cascades? No, he thought covering up and defending Bush Cheney, obfuscating and combating other journalists was the more important way to spend his days.

I feel sorry for his family.

I feel sorry for you TOWNNCOUNTRY, and all the other idiots shilling for the muslim coon. I hope you don't have to wait to long to be with your virgin camels in hell.

BSNBC has a little line for his passing. However, their news guy passed away, a person I admire, got a 7 day parade. Can't wait to watch Olbermann blame Bush for Tony Snow's cancer.

TOWN-
A couple things. First, perhaps he was truly doing what he loved while serving in the White House. What a lofty honor to serve in such a role.

Second, like many cancer victims, he was likely of the mind he'd beat the disease. If one is of that mind, I think one would continue to live as normal a life as possible.

I agree with you that if he was given, say, 6 months to live... I would think he'd spend that time with things other than work. But that would be his choice... and we don't know the details of what his doctors might have told him. He did quit his White House job for health reasons. I don't know how extensive his FOX job might have been recently. My guess is he didn't spend much time at the network and, instead, did some of the very things you wondered about.

Mrs Oohrah is a breast cancer survivor. She has largely maintained a positive attitude about living her life as normally as possible. During her treatments and post-treatment follow ups she's encountered people with a variety of outlooks on how best to live out your life once you've had cancer.

I feel sorry for his family.

Posted by townncountry at 2008-07-12 07:57 AM

Maybe they're the reason he took the press secretary job. He did a great job from what I saw, and he was a great family man. Too bad he had to be associated with the likes of Bush & Cheney.

God bless his family.

It took Scott McClellan a while before he realized what he had participated in and maybe Snow would have eventually found God too but he'll never get the chance now. I will say he was good at what he did. Watching Perino these days makes me yearn for the days of Snow.

It's the kind of death fit for a president and a vice president.

". . . Second, like many cancer victims, he was likely of the mind he'd beat the disease. If one is of that mind, I think one would continue to live as normal a life as possible. . ."

Posted by OohRah at 2008-07-12 08:09 AM | Reply | Flag:


Why is it that everytime someone realizes that they have cancer the statement "they are fighting it" is always tossed out there to describe the situation? Everyone acts like it's a heroic, brave, and uncommon thing to do, , , what fucking choice do they have?

tony snow was no scott mcclellan. he was a man of honor and faith.

i could have watched him and helen thomas go rounds for entertainment any time.

rest well, tony.

tony snow was no scott mcclellan. he was a man of honor and faith.

Posted by nanc at 2008-07-12 08:37 AM

FF!

tony snow was no scott mcclellan. he was a man of honor and faith.

Oh my gosh! He was a con man and a stooge for a gang of criminals. He got what he deserves right in the ass.

I always liked watching Fox News Sunday when Tony was the host, I rarely agreed with the crap they were spewing, but I liked Tony's work.

53 is way too young.

May he rest in peace.

I do not know what to say about those who are so full of hate that they use the death of an honorable man as an opportunity to express their hate.

Isn't that a bit like the people who protest at the military funerals. What is that guy's name, Fred Phelps or something?

Bush and Cheney are so despicable to many people that when the death of someone decent but closely associated with them occurs it's an effort not to let that get mixed up with proper feelings of sympathy and regret. I'm one of those people who despise Bush and Cheney but not everybody associated with them.

RIP Tony.

I do not know what to say about those who are so full of hate that they use the death of an honorable man as an opportunity to express their hate.

The only honor Snow had was the honor among thieves, the blindness of his sympathizers notwithstanding.

tony snow was no scott mcclellan. he was a man of honor and faith.

The White House isn't a crime family. If you follow the code of omerta after working there, you shouldn't have ever been hired to work in the place because you don't know what it stands for.

No wonder nothing ever gets done in this country. When you have assholes piling on crap when someone dies. If it's someboby on your side of the asile it's a tragic loss. But if they're on the other it's nothing but hate and vile comments. Whatever happened to compassion in this Country!

I'm one of those people who despise Bush and Cheney but not everybody associated with them.

He wasn't an innocent; he was an accomplice.

Whatever happened to compassion in this Country!

What ever happened to justice?

"Everyone acts like it's a heroic, brave, and uncommon thing to do, , , what fucking choice do they have?" - NOGOV


I hear what you're saying and I pretty much agree with you - you have no choice but to fight it.

That said, here are a couple of other angles on it.

1. Some people give up. They are pessimistic... and have no hope.

2. Several in our church have had cancer and also have eventually died from it. Their attitude, to paraphrase, was that it was all part of God's plan... and not to fear death. Heaven is a much better place - a place without pain and suffering.

But I'm with you... I'm competitive - a fighter. I would do what I could to fight it, but I would also embrace point number two above. At least that's how I THINK I'd react. Hopefully it'll not come to that.

Ray,

If you're not a troll you certainly give a good imitation of one. Try a bit of decency and humanity once in a while. Works wonders.

Hey Ray,
name one Law that Snow broke. What a worthless piece of shit you must be!!

It's so easy to piss you dupes off. You've turned the State into a church and its lackeys into priests. You get no sympathy from me as this economy collapses. You asked for it by trusting world class criminals.

name one Law that Snow broke. What a worthless piece of shit you must be!!

What a dumb question. Hitler didn't break any laws either.

TOWNNCOUNTRY: Your comments about Tony Snow indicate that you have to be THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE LIB AROUND. I WISH I KNEW WHO YOU WERE BECAUSE I WOULD PUNCH YOUR FUCKEN SLIM SUCKING FACE. YOU HAVE TO BE THE BIGGEST SLIM BAG AROUND. FUCK YOU AND FLOP EARS.



What a waste of his last years -- shilling for the most reprehensible administration in history. Sure, the ride must have been thrilling. But, man, couldn't he have more (and better) thrills whitewater rafting, and hiking the Cascades? No, he thought covering up and defending Bush Cheney, obfuscating and combating other journalists was the more important way to spend his days.

I feel sorry for his family.

~ TOWNNCOUNTRY


Right on and well stated.

RIP Mr. Snow

Thanks Ray I didn't know that Snow ruined the Economy.

Snow was a soldier.

zap, danni, town, ray;

You bunch of fucking losers. I normally I would feel sorry for people like you, but I do not. To have such hatred for someone or some ideal that it consumes you to where you sit around all day and blog on this site is so fucking pathetic. You people really need to get a life.

Well, I am off to the links. Retirement sucks....

Ray, you being a leftwing nutsucker makes you a soldier too.

Magic Negro

"Oh my gosh! He was a con man and a stooge for a gang of criminals. He got what he deserves right in the ass."
Ray

Just like all those twin tower victims, right Ray?

Tony was an excellent example of how personality trumps truth. His sweet manner and charming personality cause most people to accept as truth, junk information. Hannity operates the same way. Meanwhile, Limbaugh and O'Reilly shove it rudely down everyone throats (that's willing to listen).

Ray, you being a leftwing nutsucker makes you a soldier too.

I think as an individual; I have no wings. Government operates with the morals of criminal gangs. It's your enemy and mine. Maybe some day you will learn to stop paying obeisance to it.

normally I would feel sorry for people like you, but I do not.

Posted by 08r4ever

Enjoy your retirement while your pension lasts. I won't feel sorry for you one bit.

Just like all those twin tower victims, right Ray?

Posted by Mossadegh

Of course Palestinians, Serbians, Iraqis and Afghanis don't count. They are not human.

while i wouldn't be as callous as what ray is being here, i do understand his passion.
snow was the face in front of the administration and the face of fox news.
neither really represents truth, justice and the american way.
at least not to me... nor to ray.
and i heard snow as a human being, not just a talking head, on maher. i didn't agree with much that he stated though it did offer another facet to what we knew of him.
i didn't care for his politics nor those he worked for but he was his own man. i won't judge.
but i wouldn't judge ray either.
this entire bush clan has hurt an awful lot of people and some will never recover. one cannot expect them to roll over and be happy about it.

all the best.

Of course Palestinians, Serbians, Iraqis and Afghanis don't count.

It's actually "Afghans", "Afghani" is an object.

"Afghani" is also correct where they come from.

Tony Snow's job was to be the voice of the president.

How much he capitulated his own values to do that job is now between him and his maker.

RIP Tony ~ where ever you are.

The level of antipathy or worse directed at Tony at his passing can be traced to his smug condescending approach to any dissent or questioning.

He spoke to detractors as unpatriotic ignoramouses who were either too stupid or too unpatriotic to appreciate the brilliance of the Bush policy and abuse of executive power.

Here's a picture of Badeye after he gets ball snot in one of his peepers.

www.thesmokinggun.com

I hate splitting hairs but this is interesting

I used to like Snow during my conservative days.

It was just after 9/11 when he first turned me against him. He was radio host at the time on WABC. A couple callers believed that it was in retaliation for American violence against Muslims. He quickly dismissed that idea. Wouldn't hear of it.

As Press Secretary he was asked if there was any concern about the mounting death toll in Iraq. He flippantly dismissed the death toll as a number.

Tony is just a number. The Washington establishment lost one of its own. Good riddance.

Politics aside. I wish his family peace during this hard time.

Bet this poor fuck's final confession was a long one. Bye bye you fucking liar, don't let the lid of your coffin hit you in the ass on the way out.

Ray,
you are a miserable little turd. Hopefully, you will spend eternity getting butt fucked. Oh wait a minute, that is exactly what you have been been praying for. It would be just like your life on earth. I hope you have a very short life.

Tony was a good man. My problem wit him as a White Hoyuse Spokesman was that his credibility as a straight shooter defending the administrations positions was tainted by the fact he would be a guest host on Fat Limbaugh's program. He would bash teh media on Limbaigh's program for asking hard and fair questions. Then, Tony would come back the next day and expect the press corps to respect his representation of Bush. This hypocrisy. I feel bad for Tony's family and I know he was a great husband and father. However, this hypocrisy had to be pointed out. Any way, God Bless you Tony


try again, too many typos before:

Tony was a good man. My problem with him as a White House spokesman was that his credibility as a straight shooter defending the administrations positions was tainted by the fact he would be a guest host on Fat Limbaugh's program. He would bash the media on Limbaigh's program for asking hard and fair questions. Then, Tony would come back the next day and expect the press corps to respect his representation of Bush. This is hypocrisy. I feel bad for Tony's family and I know he was a great husband and father. However, this hypocrisy had to be pointed out. Any way, God Bless you Tony

I WISH I KNEW WHO YOU WERE BECAUSE I WOULD PUNCH YOUR FUCKEN SLIM SUCKING FACE.

I highly doubt that. It is real easy to talk big on an anonymous blog, but when push comes to shove......eh not so much

Posted by obamabinladan at 2008-07-12 10:39 AM

Living proof that Statism has become a religion. Washington is America's Vatican.

Oh wait a minute, that is exactly what you have been been praying for.

I'm an atheist. Knowing how badly this government operates, I saw the downfall of America decades ago. Heed my warnings or suffer for it.

Although I considered him a Quisling propagandist and part of the problem, I do not possess the callousness to celebrate his death.

My condolences to his family.

726: TRY ME OUT, DIRT BAG!

PANCHOVILLA: I'll bet you had tears running down your ugly face when FROG FACE died.

I hate splitting hairs but this is interesting


We use the term "Afghani" for the people.

"Afghan" is more correct, but "Afghani" is more used.

Perhaps we in Pakistan, call them Afghani to piss them off? Don't know. Now they also call themselves "Afghani".

It is usual to add the "ee" to denote the people of a country. eg:

Cheeni (Chinese)
Roosi (Russian)
Amreeki (American)
Pakistani (There is no such thing as Pakistanian)
Hinustani (Indian)
Irani
Afreeki
and Afghani.... etc.

BTW, to stay on topic, Tony Snow is dead, ok... all respects to dead guy... but when he was alive he was a bloody shill.

Hey Tosser didn't know you had first hand knowledge, I'm a little embarrassed I tried to correct you, haha. I only mentioned it because at in-processing at HQ-ISAF they told us to refer to the locals as "Afghans" as to not insult them.

As for Tony Snow, he will be missed.

Oh my! First some rightie newbie orates about "muslim coons" and no one takes him (?) up on it. Then some rightie oldbie suggests "hate" in those seeing a flaw in a man choosing to act as Bush's vile mouthpiece. Saturday morning in Wonderland ... herm

Tosser,

You're correct for the vast majority of Asians and our references; however, there are a few exceptions, e.g., Turkmenistan where they're not Turkmeni.

May he rot in Hell.

RAY,

I would normally wish you would die of testicle of spine cancer, but since you have neither, I just hope you die of something far more painful.

I saw the downfall of America decades ago. Heed my warnings or suffer for it.

Posted by Ray at 2008-07-12 10:46 AM

Hey it takes big balls to piss on Snow's grave. All I see around here is spineless dupes.

Snow deserves the same sympathy he gave the Iraqi war dead: "it's just a number," he said.

Herm...the gent in question came, spewed and left. Engaging them only serves to enable them. I flagged his "coon" comment as abusive and went on to more important things.

Ray, I want to quote your idol.

Ray, Just...Shut...Thee...Hell...UP
!

That's not really what I wanted to say but it is close. Ask Olby what that word is.

Dutch, we need a civil discussion on whether civil discussions with those who spew and then leave are ever warranted. I work under the apprehension that idiots and idiot postings need to be answered in full every time. But I'm open to other views. herm

I'm sure the same crowd who I'm pissing off cheered when Saddam Hussein and his henchmen got their justice. All I see here is sheep being led to slaughter. Go ahead. Come election day, vote for the candidate who is best at screwing you.

There is a cadre of posters here that make any civil discussions impossible. They're only purpose here is to make sure nothing of any real import is ever "discussed" by throwing a layer of talking-point noise over everything. Follow the frame.

In the end, it sucks to be them.

Aw, fudge...its "Their," not "they're." Proof, then post. It's what happens when you change your point in mid-sentence and don't go back to adjust the tenses.

53 is way too young.

ditto. amen. and RIP.

anyone who talks trash on Snow regardless of the political spectrum has no class.

I was hoping Tony Snow would be able to beat this but evidently God had other plans.
Too young to go and in such a painful way. I'm not throwing in any politics on the day the man has died. Prayers to his family.

Colon cancer.

AuntieSocial

Looks like we were both thinking the same thoughts at the same time.

Media figures say and do what their masters tell them, othersiwe they are fired.

Complicit is the word that comes to mind.

The American people get a pre-approved (censored) version of the news, presented to them with a bias, and working towards an agenda which is not in their best interests.

"Talking heads" know what they're doing.

They're only purpose here is to make sure nothing of any real import is ever "discussed" by throwing a layer of talking-point noise over everything.

There is nothing more important than placing Snow as a conman who spent his career leading the simple to believe that government is a benevolent institution, when it is the very opposite - vicious, divisive and criminal, the source of much of life's difficulties.

It's a shame the simple aren't getting the message.

Dutch, I'm proud of you for catching their/they're. The righties wouldn't, and then they'd berate the "spelling police" as whimps, pussies and commie faggot Marxist traitors. That said, maybe it behooves those of us who still think to try to look at issues in a civil manner, but that doesn't mean I have to be civil to bogus paratroopers and the rest of the Fascist testosterone bunch.

When they label our next president a mooslim radical, to say nothing of his skin tones, I deem it my duty to note that he's a pale (!) centrist member of the United Church of Christ (Congregational). I suppose that's like the guy in the parade who follows horses and elephants with broom and dustpan. herm

I used to like Tony Snowjob before he joined the Bush Crime Administration. Same goes for Colin Powell who lied at the UN for these crooks.

Anyone associated with these criminals will have a tough time ridding themselves of the foul stench of having worked there.

"OZZIEWALD"......Give your panties back to your boyfriend, I think it starting to twist on you. You are a fucking loser, some tough guy you are a fucking wimp!!!!! So now you want to go to War because someone questioned Tony Snow loyality to his Country, in place of his loyality to his Republician Party. FUCK YOU, at least Lee Atwater, apologized to the Amerrican people for his deranged behavior for the Republician Party, when he first knew he was dying, if only Mr. Snow would have done the same.....RIP, if he can.....

He died too young. Many will miss and mourn him. His family hurts. I empathize. But it doesn't take away from the fact that he shilled for the most destructive, anti-freedom, anti-American group of sewage leakers to ever be in office. He contributed to the dumbing down of the nation, to the criminal power grab of an elitist bunching of oil men and proponents of a military-for-profit dead set on eliminating the middle class and making us a nation of jails and endless war for the majority, and none stop riches and luxury for the soon to be gated few. And for that his soul blemished. But to his family, I pray you find some peace. God bless to them, and fuck you to the animals enabling the destruction of a what should and could be a great, thoughtful and powerful nation.

"the death of an honorable man"

I thought we were talking about Tony Snow.

If you're a Christian, you know the Commandment about bearing false witness and you know he's a snowball in hell.

It just goes to show, that if you are a lying piece of crap, God will put cancer in your ass!

This is crap. I can't believe you people. Your starting to act like Michael Crook (That isn't exactly a compliment!) If you don't know who or what Michael is, I'd suggest you go do a google search.

I do not celelbrate deaths or sickness on the left. Because to do that, would make me no better than Michael Crook and by reading this article, you guys and gals. That means, I do not take any comfort in Senator Kennedy's medical problems. It's a tragedy. However, you guys need some serious couch time. Ray, you need a lot more than serious couch time! You need full-time residency!

As far as bitter clingers, I don't seen any Republicans as bitter as you guys. This man has passed away and your celebrating it based on politics? Grow the hell up and act human for once in your lives! No wonder we can't have intelligent discussions here because there are very few intelligent beings in here. Politics stops at the grave!

This isn't only directed at the left. I saw where when Senator Kennedy was hospitalized there were people slamming him too and hoping he'd die. We are human beings way before we're Democrat and Republicans. We should act like we're human first!

Lonnie

Everyone dies.
Many die young.
It's the living that counts.
Where are the tender eulogies for the young soldiers
ripped apart daily
by a policy
that Snow supported
with grins and guile?

Instead we get sympathy
for an instrument
in their destruction.

But then, that's what you do
with your soldiers:
keep them anonymous
and generically heroic
as if this was their real mission;
to die
and be forgotten.

I won't be losing sleep over
fallen Snow.
But things like
this
keep me up at night.

I don't seen any Republicans as bitter as you guys.

plenty of evidence of that on this thread.

Ray, you need a lot more than serious couch time! You need full-time residency!

More sane than all of you. Do any of you think Snow would give a shit if he heard any of you died? He was a conman for the cause of evil to whom the Iraqi War dead was just a number.

No thanks. I'll save my sympathy for those I respect.

You could be right but I scolded BOTH sides. To use someone's death to support your political agenda is wrong and I don't care which side of the isle your on.

Lonnie

Ok Ray, I'll bite. Show me he's a conman. I want links. The sad truth to this story is that your side has tried to prove wrong doing time in and time out but you haven't found anything. If you had, Bush would have been called to the carpet a long time ago. Like the Captain of a ship, you guys are going to sink with the ship because you want jump off.

Everytime Bush & Co wants something, the Democrats give it to him. Why is that? What's your take on that? You guys call him chimp but obviously he's smarter than everyone on your side of the isle because you guys keep giving him what he wants.

Lonnie

I wonder if Carl Rove feels a twitching in his butt? He could be next. Chaney seems to be going down fast, too, with his heart. Should we feel sad when they finally kick off? Or do all lying Republicans become angels when they die?

Yeah percapita, it's not like Democrats don't lie right? Wasn't it a democrat that went to fight a law in Illinois that said it was against the law to lie during a political campaign?

Politicians ALL lie. That's what they do. It isn't a Republican thing or a Democrat thing.

Dont' make me go back to the whole "I did not have sex with that girl statement." Clinton lied too. In fact, I'd be willing to bet there are a LOT of politicians on BOTH sides of the isle that have lied to us in the past.

Lonnie

Hey, Lonnie, I would not object to Pelosi and Clinton and some of the other lying Dems suffering for what they have done to this country. Cancer seems quicker than a trial.

I guess in your mind that is an accurate portrayal. I mean since none of the brightest minds in the Democratic party can't find any wrong doing on the parts of Bush, Snow, Pelosie, and Clinton.

Lonnie

Percapita,

I guess what your trying to say is that this somehow is an "Act of God" that Tony Snow perished with cancer. The last time I checked, god isn't a republican or a democrat. How would you feel if you were diagnosed with cancer tomorrow after you've said this? Should we sit around saying the same things you've said about Tony, about you?

Lonnie

I don't believe in you or your God, Lonnie.

My God is a Libertarian.

I never assumed that you believed in me percapita because quite frankly we don't know each other at all. I was merely trying to point out your hypocracy. I've made my case, thanks for playing!

NEXT!

Lonnie

I didn't agree with him politically, but he seemed to be a gentleman and always fair with his guests on his tv and radio shows.

I wish his family the best.


726: TRY ME OUT, DIRT BAG!

Posted by ozzieoswald at 2008-07-12 11:03 AM

Yet another 101 Wannabe.

i don't recall this kind of ugliness from the right when tim russert died...

Ok Ray, I'll bite. Show me he's a conman. I want links.
Posted by lwalk17 at 2008-07-12 02:55

You answered your own question. At 3:15 you said: Politicians ALL lie. That's what they do. It isn't a Republican thing or a Democrat thing.

The sad truth to this story is that your side has tried to prove wrong doing time in and time out but you haven't found anything.

You are awfully naive if you can't see it. My side is against ALL politicians. There are very few, very very few on my side. The rest you are sheep who don't know what a wolf looks like. You're getting eaten up under anesthesia.

Tony snow isn't a politician so there is YOUR answer!

Lonnie

ITSME: Another liberal ASSHOLE to the list!

Tony snow isn't a politician so there is YOUR answer!
Lonnie

He was an apologist for the political class. Hardly a difference.

CELISARY: Why don't you go back to SF, you FAGGET!

You may not like what he did for a living, but he was a human being.

RIP Tony

Ray, apparantly you agree with everything that goes on at your workplace then. Whether or not you agree with everything in your workplace the bottom line is that you'll do whatever it is you have to do to bring home a paycheck. Even if you had to swallow your pride and tow the company line. I find it hard to believe that you'd walk in and quit.

Tony WAS NOT an elected official. Still you guys rag on him. He was a perfect gentleman everytime he delt with guests (Even if he disagreed with them). He had the balls to go on Bill Mahr's show which is more than I can say about Obama. I mean he refuses to walk into the lions den and talk to foxnews.

Lonnie

Hey Ozzie,

Why are you so huffy about the comments regarding Snow. You sound like someone defending a lover. What's up with that, nancyboy?

Lonnie

I chose engineering. It's an honorable profession. I've been fired for not conforming to my bosses' whims and I've quit on bosses I didn't like. My current job has a couple petty annoyances, but I can put up with them. I don't expect a job to be perfect. If my boss asked me to do something I thought was immoral or unsafe, I wouldn't do it. No matter what the consequences.

Snow was making a nice living as a syndicated columnist before he went on the air waves then to Press Secretary. His ego was his calling.

If you saw a stranger named Tony Snow in the obituaries, you won't give it a second thought. All this flak I'm getting tells me my critics have too much reverence for government. Reverence like that only feeds the monster.

Poor deludes Lonnie thinks Snow was Christ-like. Lonnie's a true Bushie, dyed in the wool, scared and losing his faith.

TIGERBALM: Hurry up and catch CELISARY. He is on his way to SF for the "Queens" parade. You two FAGGETS should have a great time. GIVE ME MO!

Although I considered him a Quisling propagandist and part of the problem, I do not possess the callousness to celebrate his death.

My condolences to his family.

~Dutch46.

Pretty much this.

He was an apologist fer criminals and war profiteers who spewed disinformation and obfuscations like an unstoppable fount but at the end of the day he was just another guy who made bad choices.

53 is too young.

Ass cancer sucks.

Even fer an egotistical shill and propagandist like Snowjob it's a bad end.

RIP Tony.

Peace to the family.

Be Well.

/Spud enters DR
stage left.

It's always seems to be the least intelligent who are the strongest supporters of the class that has enslaved them. Curious phenonmenom.

Ozzie,

Get off the dead mans dick and open your eyes. You're being played chump.

Pecapita,

I NEVER said that! Snow was like anyone else. Sure, he made mistakes but everybody makes mistakes. However, my point is why celebrate someone's death by speaking ill of them to make your little political talking points. That's all. I didn't see many republicans talk ill of Russart when he passed.

Lonnie

Lonnie, not to quibble about your apples/oranges comparison, but Tim Russert was never a White House Press Secretary and/or paid mouthpiece for the Democratic Party on a blatantly right wing network. And before you go traipsing off into CNN-Is-Liberal_Land, go back and research Russert's embarrassing and endless Clinton Got A Blow Job commentary. The man swooned over Bubba's pecker. Pick another frame...

Make that "Left wing network." My compositional skills are eroding from hanging out here.

You know, at first I couldn't understand the callous, foaming at the mouth hate filled comments about Mr. Snow until I realized how joyful I will be when that stupid, fat, fucking POS elitist murderer finally kicks it because of his brain tumor, I'm hoping any day now.

'NANC".....Tim Russert was a Newsman, not a mouth piece for this corrupt Administration. Mr. Snow an his kind, took great pleasure to call people who disagree with the War policy of this Administration, UNPATRIOTIC, Mr. Snow was a POLITICIAN, Mr. Russert was a Newsman, GET IT!!!!!

"OZZIEOSWALD"....Take that DICK out your ass, anyone that protest that much has much to much to hid. Come out the Closet, you will find many Republicians friends that will welcome you with Dicks in hand, something you will enjoy....

A Friend of mine wanted to comment but doesn't have a login. I let him use mine. Just direct your comments to him.

--------

Hey guys just reading over yalls work with Lonnie and I thought that all of you should grow up some because quite frankly i believe that if your going to talk crap about someone you should do it to their face and while they are alive and well because think about this how would you like to be setting in heaven and hear someone talking bad about you when in all reality you wouldn't appreciate it either.

Bryant

Bryant,

Snow was a public figure who was complicit in actions that have damaged this country.

I talked crap about the SOB when he was alive. If I would have had the opportunity it would have been to his face. But the shill's death does not provide immunity from ridicule.

Save the niceties for freepers site.

how would you like to be setting in heaven and hear someone talking bad about you


I'd be laughing because I got in and their ticket hasn't been paid for yet. Maybe they won't make it. Like Snow...and who says he's in heaven?

You sound like a kindred spirit Ozarkaggie.
Maybe Tony Snow is in hell, where the hate lives.
Maybe you can wish it so.

No Demon, we take what's in our heart, and all the memories of our lives, and I think there's support for the theory that given clarity we will be compelled to render a judgment on ourselves. But we get to wander those memories, good and bad. The Big Sleep and Eternal Dream.

Tony was a professional liar. He, at least, disguised the facts and that can be mortal if anyone died as a result. A debt you can't fully repay. Take that with you Snowman.

As much as I want to give everyone the dignity of their humanity, I can't bring myself to mourn Snow's death. It makes me wonder if something is wrong with me.

But, like many of you guys have posted, he was an enabler of politics that destroyed so many innocent and honest Americans, I can't help but think our world is a better place than it was yesterday.

I spoke to Mr. Snow many times on his radio show and every time I talked to him he would acknowledge my point as valid and then change the subject immediately. His "nice guy" style was effective. I've never met someone who could steer a debate away from truth into spinned BS with more style and civility.

That's probably the best compliment I can give the man.

What is in your heart Ozarkaggie?
What lies within your truth?
Speak to his children and tell them you wish their father is burning in hell for his service.

The truth is subject, lies a matter of perspective.
Comment speak more about the one stating them, then the one they are spoken about.

Let your hate out, be your true self.

Anyone involved in some way with politics will be hated by a sizeable portion of a given society.

RIP Tony.

Ray,


I understand you consternation with government - it's something I share, but less in degree.

Let me ask you this -

Can you name any society throughout history that embraced a Randian/Libertarian form of governance and enjoyed long-term success?


My rhetorical question is along the same lines as what I ask hard-core Leftists when they rant against the U.S. Name for me a society that you feel is superior and the list your reasons as to why.

JEFF

I've never seen someone from the left rant against the U.S. Government

The right wing assholes, sure. They've practically destroyed our country.

AU,

Well, from 2000 - 2006 the Republican party controlled much of the U.S. government and castigated it as the greatest evil ever foisted upon mankind.


Regardless, I think you missed my point.

JEFF

I just finished reading Mickey Kantor's (former R U.S. House member from OK) "Grand New Party".

As a REAL conservative he's absolutely appaled at the actions of those who call themselves conservatives - like Gingrich, Delay, et al.

All these young punks who call themselves (in the model of Rush Limbaugh) would serve themselves well to read what an ACTUAL conservative is. Maybe they'd turn off their radios and become participants in our democracy instead of thugs.

Hey, Tony Snow... give us a call from Hell and tell us how you like it. But the truth this time!

And text message Lonnie. He's worried about you.

Poor guy.

I guess taking Bush's lies up the ass was carcinogenic.

Political mouth pieces are a dime a dozen. Snow was no different from the rest of the gigolos who allowed themselves to be used by the GWB WH to foist lies upon the American people. It is hard for me to muster any special acrimony towards this one in particular.

Regardless, RIP.

McClellan may have been naive, and unintentionally lied for the White House, but Tony Snow new _exactly_ what he was doing when he lied for the them:

majikthise.typepad.com

You people are pathetic. May God bless his family during this difficult time.

Tony Snow, RIP

God Bless the Snow Family during this time of grief.

"...But, like many of you guys have posted, he was an enabler of politics that destroyed so many innocent and honest Americans, ..."

Posted by bocaink"

Bocaink, please name 10 innocent and honest destroyed Americans.

Sadly, there are a little over 4000 names to choose from

DANVED

had Congress not flipped in 2006 God only knows what would have happened that was even worse.

CELISARY, TIGERBALM,on the way to the "queens" parade in SF I have another JERK OFF you can take with you. His name is AMERICANUNITY! His name in Aribic means SHITHEAD. If you don't believe me ask FLOP EARS.

What has Congress done that has changed anything relative to your 4,000 answer? Do I assume that is the number of dead American Soldiers in Iraq who willingly volunteered for a cause that they believe in so strongly as to give their lives for it?

But, I do agree with you... it has flipped... totally flipped out!

Can you name any society throughout history that embraced a Randian/Libertarian form of governance and enjoyed long-term success?
Posted by JeffJ at 2008-07-13 01:17

In the strictest sense, no government has ever adopted that MO. From the time of the earliest civilizations of Sumeria and Egypt there was always an elite that ruled by force. There were peaceful civilizations that came close, but they were usually swallowed up by more powerful rulers.

That leaves us to look at short term periods of near libertarian government and how they performed. What comes to mind is early America, the city-states of Venice and Florence, Victorian England, Dutch Netherlands and ancient Greece. They all prospered to the degree they were free societies.

That leaves us to look at short term periods of near libertarian government and how they performed. What comes to mind is early America, the city-states of Venice and Florence, Victorian England, Dutch Netherlands and ancient Greece. They all prospered to the degree they were free societies.

Bull shit, they all fell to poverty revolt and now it doesn't take but a mild prudent thinker to follow libertarian ideals to a conclusion and see how the end will result.

libertarian and rand ideals is just idiotic in thinking any society would benefit but for a very short time.

You're not reading very well, Money. Try reading the whole post again before you come back with bullshit like that.

Why don't you go back to SF, you FAGGET!

LOL, Drudge Retort at it's finest....

His name is AMERICANUNITY! His name in Aribic means SHITHEAD. If you don't believe me ask FLOP EARS.

Posted by ozzieoswald


I know AU is having a good laugh over his "Aribic" name..:)

"Bocaink, please name 10 innocent and honest destroyed Americans."

Here are a couple of thousand to get you started. Now remember for every one, there are usually two parents and on average at least one spouse, child, and many many friends whose lives will have a significant void.

www.globalsecurity.org

And while there is an obvious inherent risk in serving your country, our troops should have a reasonable expectation of our civilian leadership to not send them to face the risk of death over bullshit....the same bullshit that Tony Snow knowingly spewed.

Iraq is a small, small piece of the panorama of Bush Crap. Energy policy, economic policy, and the unwillingness to reinforce our aging infrastructure are a few more issues that has destroyed family budgets and US competitiveness simultaneously.

If you can get your mind around any of this, please retort with a third-grade level, "So what?" or "I know you are but what am I!"

K?

ozzieoswald is the english translation of the ebonic name that means troll who chooses the handle of a drugged out retarded 80's glam rocker to post neo-con talking points while sitting on his life size 4 inch Limbaugh penis butt plug while masterbating to his 8x10 framed and signed "you're a good American little ozzie" Hannity photo.

Kinda sorry I missed this thread. Y'all are cra-zy.

ozzieoswald is the english translation of the ebonic name that means troll who chooses the handle of a drugged out retarded 80's glam rocker to post neo-con talking points while sitting on his life size 4 inch Limbaugh penis butt plug while masterbating to his 8x10 framed and signed "you're a good American little ozzie" Hannity photo.
Posted by tigerbalm


Tiger - your post shows you to be quite a peach of person yourself.

Tony Snow was a good guy. R.I.P. and good wishes for his family.


............he can start decorating a room in hell........

.......for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Rove, Myers, Rice, Gonzalez, Powell and the entire gang of war criminals ........

........who knowingly murdered 600,000+ people......

.......for no justifiable reason........

politician

1: a person experienced in the art or science of government; especially : one actively engaged in conducting the business of a government

2 a: a person engaged in party politics as a profession b: a person primarily interested in political office for selfish or other narrow usually short-sighted reasons

www.merriam-webster.com

No mention of Snow on BSNBC today and no surprise. Funny, Foxnews glorified Russert for days.

Our God is a just and loving and fair God. From this I must assume that God loves Ted Kennedy more than Tony Snow and that Tony Snow is in the same hell as Lee Atwater. And that Karl von Rove should be getting his affairs in order.

MSNBC..."Ex-Bush spokesman Tony Snow dies of cancer
Conservative commentator succumbed to illness at age 53"

www.msnbc.msn.com

Seemed like a nice guy. Sorry he had to shill for the liars in the WH.

RIP

"ACLUSUX"......MSNBC has since Saturday morning announced the death of Tony Snow. They have done so on each show since his death, so you are a FUCKING LIAR. You may be forgiven because you seem only to get your news from Fox Noise. But Asshole your FACTS are wrong......

Fox has had many so called News readers questioned the amount of time that the on air talent spent on the death of Tim Russert. Well guess what Fox Noise is doing the same thing. In my mind the difference was that the death of Tim Russert was totally unexpected while the death of Tony Snow was expected....

The unexpected Death, stays with you forever, those that die due to illiness or old age never has the same eeffect to the general public. That why the deaths of JAMES DEAN AN MARILYN MONROE'S has until today had such an effect to thier fans....THE UNEXPECTED NATURE OF THIER DEATHS......

TIGERBALM: Are you back from the "Queens" parade already?


tony snow was no scott mcclellan. he was a man of honor and faith.


Oh my gosh! He was a con man and a stooge for a gang of criminals. He got what he deserves right in the ass.

Posted by Ray at 2008-07-


and here we have, people, the best example of why I have not for some time, nor will in the future, give this piece of human slime, one more comment to him personnaly. I can only hope that..."RAY" has not had in the past nor the chance in the future to breed because the human race would be in trouble if he could find a woman willing to bear his demom seed into a child.
what a miserable life he must live because he is one miserable human being.

They have done so on each show since his death, so you are a FUCKING LIAR. You may be forgiven because you seem only to get your news from Fox Noise. But Asshole your FACTS are wrong......


I believe...NUMBNUTTS.......that THIS is what the poster said...

No mention of Snow on BSNBC today and no surprise. Funny, Foxnews glorified Russert for days.

and he is correct........ON BSNBC today.........

and there was nothing on face the nation either

the other two morning shows had respectable and reverent slots with fox news sunday giving the entire hour..........all were appropriate....I wonder why shieffer chose to ignore it.......AT LEAST THE PART THAT I WATCHED.......which was most of it

Today I listened to many programs that reviewed what a great and patriotic man Tony Snow was. It was interesting that many people praising him were liberal news people and democratic consultants. No I didn't watch NBC.

I discussed this with two of my conservative friends who don't participate in the DR thread.

They were suprised when I related to them what a bunch scum sucking ASSHOLE libs most of you were. They agreed to join the thread. We are now going to give you libs the pay back you deserve for trashing the Bush administration for over seven years.

In some ways we hope FLOP EARS will become the first Arib American president. What would give us even more pleasure would be the appointment of FAT ASS to run with FLOP EARS.

LET THE TRASHING BEGIN! SORRY LIBERAL ASSHOLES! YOU ASKED FOR IT.

but again two things come up with this.
it is no wonder that there wont be parades and mass grieving........russert was the best but he was also ONE OF THEM........so its no wonder AT ALL that he would be canonized much more.
its also no wonder that there are so many seriously unscrupulous comments here about tony snow.
its what we come to expect from liberal fucks.

They were suprised when I related to them what a bunch scum sucking ASSHOLE libs most of you were. They agreed to join the thread. We are now going to give you libs the pay back you deserve for trashing the Bush administration for over seven years. -Ozzieoswald

Go ahead you creeps, who gives a shit what you say. You haven't a leg to stand on so get on with it.

Bush is an absolute lying moron puppet.

Everyone but the 20 something percent of Rushbots in America think so too.

84% think we're headed in the wrong direction. Who's been driving the bus? Bush and Co.

Delusion seems to be pandemic among Rushbots.

HEY AU...........can you tell us just ONE little thing that your last post has to do with tony snow??

he was a conservative that would give it right back to the left and thats why many here dont care that a family has lost their father.......but he did it without all the acrimony that we read here and thats what set him apart.

Other than the fact that he was a glib shill for those criminals in the WH, I never had anything against Snow. May he rest in peace.

But, the fact that BL2 and OzzieOs are such self righteous assholes kind of makes me glad he is dead, - for their sakes. Now they have something to whine about and wet their panties over. What a bunch of losers. No wonder the GOP is in such pathetic condition.

to breed because the human race would be in trouble if he could find a woman willing to bear his demom seed into a child.
what a miserable life he must live because he is one miserable human being.

Posted by bushlovertwo at 2008-07-13 06:29

Hahaha. Two kids and three grandchildren. All alive and healthy too. How's your son doing asshole?

I can't help you this time, BLT.


You fired the first shot and Ray replied in kind.

There were trumpets played by the angels to welcome Tony and Tim Russert was there to give him a high five...

May Tony Rest In Peace and my prayers and thoughts are with his wife, children and family.

BL2

I said Snow was a nice guy, but had to repeat the bullshit the WH put out.

Bullshit, AU! He didn't have to take the job. Judging by the flippant way he answered question, I think he liked the lying.

The one that galled me the most was when he called the number of American soldiers dead in Iraq, "just a number."

RAY-
It was "just a number." What's the difference between, say, 999 dead and 1000? Or 1999 and 2000? Or 2023 and 2024?

He wasn't dismissing the service of soldiers. He was trying to provide the media with some perspective.

Think of it this way: many people feel different when turning 30, 40, 50 or 60. Why?

In reality it's just a number and only one removed from 29, 39, 49 or 59.

Oorah, you may be contextually correct, but it sure came across as dismissive as hell. Something along the lines of GWB calling the Constitution just a piece of paper. Certain quotes have a way of living on long after the speaker. I think the "just a number" quote falls in that category.

I was watching a book lecture by Vince Bugliosi last night.

He aptly pointed out that while thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were being killed Bush said, "Laura and I are having the time of our lives"

Sick.

Oh stop it Oohrah! He was dehumanizing the death toll. Let's not forget how the Pentagon did everything they could to sweep the count under the rug. Photographs of caskets were not allowed. Bush kept away from veteran hospitals. A solder wasn't counted as dead if he died outside of Iraq. It was one big cover-up.

I am contextually correct, MOD. So if the left understands what was said and in what context, why perpetuate a misleading interpretation of the event? Wouldn't that be intellectually dishonest - disingenuous?

Same for your example of Bush & the Constitution. I'd like to really know the context of that statement.

Should/could Snow have used other words? Perhaps. But he was trying to help set the media straight. The media was trying to make a point of milestone deaths and Snow was doing his best to put one soldier's death into context.

By the way, this context issue got me thinking about the "great job, Brownie" comment from Bush. Do you know the context around that? I didn't until a couple of weeks ago. Bush, Brown and a couple other public officials were at some sort of ceremony/meeting where the officials were publically congratulating Brown on some of the things he'd done in relation to their community, etc.

There was a bit of a pause which called for some reaction from Bush... and that's what he said. What should/could Bush have said instead? What would you, in Bush's place, have said under those circumstances?

HEY "SITDOWN", SIT ON THIS! Give me MO!

Oorah, the reality is, regardless of context as to a particular set of words, there sometimes is an attitude which is apparent to everyone paying attention. And those set of words aptly sum up that attitude.

Ozzie, just go away. You don't contribute anything and are tiresome.

People wonder why I don't rag on Tim Russert. Though I saw him as another quisling newsman, he was a hard guy not to like. The media carried on about him to such an extreme, I thought they were doing it to promote themselves.

If Russert was Press Secretary at the time he died, then I would rag on him. However, I think Russert had a sense of integrity Snow didn't have. He could not do that job if he tried.

I am contextually correct, MOD. So if the left understands what was said and in what context, why perpetuate a misleading interpretation of the event? Wouldn't that be intellectually dishonest - disingenuous?

It sounds like Oohrah is looking for a job as Press Secretary. He's only fooling himself.

RAY-
I'd make a great press sect - I look good, sound good and am full of BS.

That aside for a moment... was I contextually correct in my assessment of Snow's comments?

Contextually correct? No! See my post at 7:41.

In the Mafia, they kiss they intended victim. Politicians say "great job."

Maybe it's just me. I have special glasses that see through bullshit.

"Maybe it's just me. I have special glasses that see through bullshit.

Posted by Ray "

Maybe someone can create a cartoon superhero based on Ray.

RAY-
You have an opinon about Snow. It's been reached by virtue of whatever info you deem valuable in reaching that conclusion.

I'm asking you specifically about Snow's response in this particular instance. I'm not asking you whether you'd trust him with your gold/silver or wife. I'm asking you to consider my post which references the difference in birthday's from #'s 39 & 40... from #'s 29 & 30. Do you not recognize what he was saying about "a number?"

Oohrah

I'll say it again. At 7:41 I put Snow's comment in context as I see it. You are not selling me.

Maybe someone can create a cartoon superhero based on Ray.

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-07-13 08:25

Ray warns the people to run from a big pile of Nullifidian about to crash earth.

Tony, you were a shitty press sec and an obvious bullshit artist.

Anyways, RIP. Take solace in the fact that you won't have to testify.

Maybe someone can create a cartoon superhero based on Ray.

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-07-13 08:25 PM | Reply

A 4'11" old gay man that is sad and lonely will be hard to market to kids.
Besides the whole "glasses" trick, Ray's other superpower is changing his own diaper.

Everyone has choices as to how they live their lives. This piece of shit took the money over truth. Fuck you, Tony Snow. Burn in hell. May your family suffer tragedy and horror the rest of their lives, unto the seventh generation. So mote it be.

JONAMA-
You seem awfully sure of your moral position, so I'm guessin' you're not.

Geez, Jomama, tell us how you really feel. I like that part about wishing his family suffers tragedy and horror. Really brings home the feel-good side of blogging. Dude, take a qualude or something.

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