It's still not a high crime.

Obviously unlimited beer and a few million bucks can make you overlook minor details.

so he's a bigamist. That just locks in the Mormon vote. remember, Republicans believe "family values" are for everybody else.

But ya gotta love Nancy's endorsement:

"Well, obviously this is the nominee of the party."

The Reagan's were friends of McCain's ex wife, Carol.

They were mightily pissed at McCain for what he did.

It's still not a high crime--

YEAH!

Apparently that Depends on whether the Ten Commandments Plaque is Visible or Not!

Family Values, Family Values, Family Values ---- SQUAWK!

So Cali are you saying the story is bogus or that some special accommodations may have been involved?

It's still not a high crime.

Posted by Spielmannsfluch at 2008-07-11 03:59 PM

hmmm is a misdemeanor then?

No argument here. Just because McCain is my party's nominee doesn't mean I'm voting for him. I'm not.

That said, requesting a marriage license doesn't mean you get married on that day. So you should probably change the headline to deflect anyone who thinks he's a bigamist, aside from just a scumbag.

RiR

When you apply for a marriage license you have to state you're eligible to BE married. If you're STILL married, you're not, right?

LOL

When you apply for a marriage license you have to state you're eligible to BE married. If you're STILL married, you're not, right?

LOL

Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2008-07-11 04:32 PM

Mr Poopypants probably couldn't remember whether he was still married or not!

Tigerbalm

Not sure. If final divorce papers (meaning the legal amount of time to obtain a divorce has passed) weren't issued until April 2, 1980, but McCain got his marriage license on March 6, 1980, then its almost 3 weeks before he should have been able to legally obtain a marriage license.

I'm just reading the section of the applicable Arizona law I linked in my post above. What do you want to bet that because McCain and his bride to be were so well known (politically and socially throughout the state of Arizona)that some clerk in the office issuing marriage licenses was too intimidated to ask McCain to prove his divorce by showing him/her the finalized divorce papers.

Looks to me like Johnny was in too much of hurry and slipped up. Yes, it's very possible McCain's marriage license was illegally issued to him if finalized divorce papers were necessary and needed to be presented at the time he applied for a marriage license. I'm just going by the facts I read in this article and the law for Arizona. I'm sure some expensive lawyer will "fix" things for the McCains.

Is it also possible that the requirement to present the final divorce decree was not in effect at that time?

So Cali are you saying the story is bogus--

YEAH!

Except there is no Ambiguity about McCain leaving his wife and children for a Floozy home wrecker.
Marriage vows are a contract of Trust Between two people and McCain broke that contract plain and simple!
So for whatever reason, whatever the timing, McCain is a shirker, a contract renigger and an abandoner of his Oath of Covenant!

In other words he is just another a Piece of Shit with an (R) suffix

I found this. Don't know if it's helpful or not:

When you apply for a marriage license you have to state you're eligible to BE married. If you're STILL married, you're not, right?

LOL

Posted by AMERICANUNITY
* * * *

Right.

But getting a marriage license isn't the same as getting married, right? The marriage to Cindy was on May 17, 1980--a month AFTER his divorce was final.

So please quit with the bigamy nonsense.

I thought the loony left was ALL FOR the free love lifestyle. Didn't they say Clinton's blowjob was nobody's business???

Hypocrites.

FACT

I am surprised RIR even cares.

JOHN BAGHDAD BOB MCCAIN IS A BIGAMIST.

we all know it and surely since RIR doesn't like the fact makes it all the more true.

I thought

You don't do that often do you.

But can one enter into a valid marriage when their marriage license (legally required before every marriage) was illegally issued? Hmmm?

You've heard the legal saying "Fruit from the poisoned tree" -- meaning subsequent things originating from an initial illegality can then taint the entirety.

The poisoned tree (illegal marriage license) makes none of the fruit (the marriage) produced therefrom any good.

we all know it and surely since RIR doesn't like the fact makes it all the more true.

Posted by moneywar
* * * *

Uh huh. Go ahead and get out your calendar. Does April 2 come BEFORE May 17th? Or after?

Now you just look kinda stupid.

Clinton shoved a cigar in an intern's coochie in the Oval Office and Obama wasn't born in the United States and is not eligible to become POTUS.

FACTS!!!!

Is it also possible that the requirement to present the final divorce decree was not in effect at that time?

Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2008-07-11 04:38 PM

Very possible. Legal requirements can certainly change over 28 years.
Some lawyers are probably reseaching that very issue right now for McCain.

"Obama wasn't born in the United States and is not eligible to become POTUS."

Link or STINK.

FACT!

We can't because Obama is only sharing his FAKE birth Certificate.

CASE CLOSED!

Lie:

Obama Is Not a Natural Born Citizen
Truth:

Senator Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, after it became a state on August 21st, 1959. Obama became a citizen at birth under the first section of the 14th Amendment.

mccain is too old to be president

FACT

mccain is a racist

FACT

mccain is too slow

FACT

mccain is confused

FACT

mccain doesn't know anything about the economy

FACT

Kliffy, you could say four of those things about Obama.

if you want to play the lie games james deaners

mccain was brainwashed by the vietkong to take over america and make it a communist country

FACT

i can't provide the link because vietnam won't fess up

"Senator Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, after it became a state on August 21st, 1959"

Link or STINK! (and no...not mybarakobama.com)

Fact!!!

risr

i am just playing james deans stupid game of calling things facts when they are not

what an idiot

Kliferd -

Good catch. My posts are illustrative of how the loony left here is attempting to proffer these lies. You got my point!

FACT!

james

you know mccain was born in panama

not the usa.

that IS a fact.

Klifferd,

I must remember not to feed the trolls on Fridays. I got the Sausage Stuffer Boy all puffed up earlier today. My bad.

james

you know mccain was born in panama

not the usa.

---------

U.S. Territory (before KKKarter gave the canal away)

You got my point!

FACT!

Posted by James_Dean at 2008-07-11 05:07 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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Yes, Sausage Stuffer Boy, we can note the obvious point on your head. Too bad the doc didn't apply just a bit more pressure with the foreceps.

territory doesn't make it a state

You forgot to add..

FACT

"territory doesn't make it a state"

SO WHAT!!!!

FACTOLA!

When your case is built on questioning a legal birth certificate from the State of Hawaii on the basis of an Internet rumor, don't you think your arguments might be just a tad weak?

i think the problem is
he's not thinking

kind of like mccain

when he has to think he has "awkward moments"

"When your case is built on questioning a legal birth certificate from the State of Hawaii on the basis of an Internet rumor, don't you think your arguments might be just a tad weak?"
------------------------------

I was able to change the threads from lies about McCain to FACTS about Obama

FACT!

Panama wasn't US territory but the Canal Zone was. FYI, Carter didn't give the canal away; the original deal was a 99 year lease to begin with.

I think the Panama thing for McCain is a non issue.

I dont have a problem with McCain because unlike the phonies SUCH AS LIMBAUGH, GINGRICH, VITTER, CRAIG, LAURA NAZI INGRAHAM, ANN MAN COULTER all whom have failed at marriage at least once (Limbaugh 4 times) or have never had a relatonship or children - McCain does not pontificate morality on others.

The problem is among those I mention that have the AUDACITY and HUTZPAH to judge others behavior and moral codes like President Clinton. Unfortunately for McCain, when these rwing dreks start doing that it will make him look bad. Obviously he left his first wife for a hot piece of ass that even Bill Clinton has tapped a few times, Cindy. She was hot then and could suck the hitch off a trailor.

Seriously, would it have killed anyone had the headline merely read: "McCain Got Marriage License Before Divorce Finalized"?

Not as incendiary, maybe. The Redneckville's might not have shown up at all.

If McCain is elected POTUS, libs can start impeachment proceedings for high crimes and misdemeeners (almost bigomy).

I thought the loony left was ALL FOR the free love lifestyle. Didn't they say Clinton's blowjob was nobody's business???

Hypocrites.

FACT

Posted by James_Dean at 2008-07-11 04:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

Let's make this simple for you as your constant incorrect use of the word 'fact' is proof you'll need it this way:

Clintons BJ wasn't against the law.

McSame, sounds like it may have been.

Either way, Good Stuff with which to attack him!

FACT! (See retard (FACT!), that's how it's used)

"Clintons BJ wasn't against the law"
------------------------------
-

^^^PROOF that the loony left hates America!^^^

FACT!

"We can't because Obama is only sharing his FAKE birth Certificate.

CASE CLOSED!

Posted by James_Dean"

Sooooo, STINK it is then.

Sooooo, STINK it is then.
------------------------

Yup. STINK on Obama until he shows his REAL BC.

FACT!

No, deceased gay masochistic film star, STINK on you until you provide proof that it is not his real birth certificate.

FACT!

(I don't have any. Just felt like saying it.)

"STINK on you until you provide proof that it is not his real birth certificate"
--------------------------

Hillary will boing that in October....FOOL!

FACT!

boing => DOING

TCAF!

RiR

In Arizona you have to show a 'Dissolution of Marriage' WHEN filling out a marriage application.

McCain obviously did not or he wouldn't his application wouldn't have been processed.

BTW, nice AG down there in Alabama.

Heard he asked his wife to put on a mustache and let him call her "Frank".

"FACT!

(I don't have any. Just felt like saying it.)

Posted by CalifChris"

Don't worry CC, Mr. Dean has proven time and time again that it isn't required to actually have any facts to type FACT.

"When your case is built on questioning a legal birth certificate from the State of Hawaii on the basis of an Internet rumor, don't you think your arguments might be just a tad weak?"

Yeah...SO??!!

FACT!

Clintons BJ wasn't against the law"
------------------------------
-

^^^PROOF that the loony left hates America!^^^

FACT!

Hey JAMES DEAN: your an idiot, read carefully:

I dont have a problem with McCain because unlike the phonies SUCH AS LIMBAUGH, GINGRICH, VITTER, CRAIG, LAURA NAZI INGRAHAM, ANN MAN COULTER all whom have failed at marriage at least once (Limbaugh 4 times) or have never had a relatonship or children - McCain does not pontificate morality on others.

The problem is among those I mention that have the AUDACITY and HUTZPAH to judge others behavior and moral codes like President Clinton. Unfortunately for McCain, when these rwing dreks start doing that it will make him look bad. Obviously he left his first wife for a hot piece of ass that even Bill Clinton has tapped a few times, Cindy. She was hot then and could suck the hitch off a trailor.

JAMESDEAN:

The loony right far surpasses the looney left when it come to hypocrisy

JAMESDEAN:

The loony right far surpasses the looney left when it come to hypocrisy

"your an idiot"

JAMESDEAN:

The loony right far surpasses the looney left when it come to hypocrisy

JAMESDEAN:

The loony right far surpasses the looney left when it come to hypocrisy
-------------------------

What? Come again?

hypocrisy is hypocrisy....it needs to be beaten with a tire iron and thrown off a freeway overpass.

JAMESDEAN:

The loony right far surpasses the looney left when it come to hypocrisy

JAMESDEAN:

The loony right far surpasses the looney left when it come to hypocrisy
-------------------------

What? Come again?

Posted by James_Dean at 2008-07-11 06:09 PM

Jimmy,

Time to take a xanax and chill.
When you start answering your own posts you've been on here tooooo long.
FACT!

If McCain is elected POTUS, libs can start impeachment proceedings for high crimes and misdemeeners (almost bigomy).

Posted by fwthom

I think treason and murdering 140 sailors on the Forrestal should do it.

FACTIFICATION!

It's understandable. He probably just forgot he was still married. You'll have to excuse John, he forgets a lot.

FACT!

(I don't have any. Just felt like saying it.)

Posted by CalifChris

Funny shit.

Fact: Obama's father was a bigamist.
Fact: McCain MAY have received a license almost a month before his divorce was finalized. Maybe, might have, just not sure yet but could have happened.

Obama's father isn't the one running for President.

Fact: I just saved a ton of money by switching to GEICO!

FACT!

it's Friday

FACT!

From wiki--

McCain and Hensley quickly began a relationship,[18] traveling between Arizona and Washington to see each other.[9] Carol and John McCain separated permanently in January 1980,[20] Carol accepted a divorce in February of 1980,[17] effective in April 1980, and then John and Cindy were married on May 17, 1980 at the Arizona Biltmore Hotel in Phoenix.[9] They made a prenuptial agreement that kept most of her family's assets under her name

The March date appears to incorrect. Typical LA Times--that would explain they are going down the toilet..

He was officially divorced--

Rcade should change the headline..;o)

i cannot wait until the election after this one.

FACT!

Apparently that Depends ..........Redneckville

Now THERE'S a word you can Always use in a post about McCain:

DEPENDS

FACT!

If you get a license--that does not make one married. You have to have the judge or preacher or someone lawfully able to marry people marry the couple.

Murphy

...Carol and John McCain separated permanently in January 1980,[20] Carol accepted a divorce in February of 1980,[17] effective in April 1980, and then John and Cindy were married on May 17, 1980 at the Arizona Biltmore Hotel in Phoenix.

Your Wiki quote is irrelevant as it pertains to this matter because it leaves out the crux of the allegation -- that McCain obtained his marriage license (March 6, 1980) BEFORE his divorce was final (April 2, 1980). It doesn't matter what date his former wife "accepted" their divorce. The legality hinges on the actual date his divorce was finalized.

I am a Vagiterious....

FACT!

JAMES DEAN is dead

FACT!

Even with his announcing that he is a vagina, Mister Dean gets a bit tedious, not just with FACTs that aren't but with his CASE CLOSEDs thtat indicate that he is out of FACTs and please don't bother him with further questions. Being a bit above Repubbers, I would not pursue details of where McBush was born or whether he was legally free to wed Cindy. I'd focus on his non-ideas and general senility. herm

Even with his announcing that he is a vagina, Mister Dean gets a bit tedious, not just with FACTs that aren't but with his CASE CLOSEDs thtat indicate that he is out of FACTs and please don't bother him with further questions. Being a bit above Repubbers, I would not pursue details of where McBush was born or whether he was legally free to wed Cindy. I'd focus on his non-ideas and general senility. herm

Northgay-

Don't go all Vizzini on us, read a little before you spout things that are provably false:

Hey James Dean, Barry Goldwater was born in the Arizona Territory on January 2, 1909, just a couple of years before it became a state. My dad voted for him on the Republican ballot with no problem. Johnson did beat him badly, but not because of be unable to run for President.

Fact

FACT!

(I don't have any. Just felt like saying it.)

Posted by CalifChris at 2008-07-11 05:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

No worries.

JD never has any either and hasn't used it correctly yet, so don't feel bad.

In Arizona you have to show a 'Dissolution of Marriage' WHEN filling out a marriage application.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY

* * * *

That's true. Now. Was it true in 1980?

If you want to argue with me as to whether or not McCain is a scumbag, I won't bother. But the headline is wrong. That's all. Are you actually going to argue that filling out a marriage application is the same as walking down the aisle?

CC--you are correct--but they did not get married until the divorce was final.

Getting the license is not getting married until it is proclaimed by Justice or a preacher or the captain of a boat ..;o)

Murphy

I know he got married after getting his marriage license, but since getting a marriage license is legally required prior to being able to get married, having a invalid marriage license calls into question the legality of the subsequent marriage performed afterward.

It's a field day for lawyers!

from the article:

...On Christmas Eve 1969, while she was driving alone in Philadelphia, Carol McCain's car skidded and struck a utility pole. Thrown into the snow, she broke both legs, an arm and her pelvis. She was operated on a dozen times, and in the treatment she lost about 5 inches in height.

After John McCain was released in March 1973 and returned to the U.S., he told friends that Carol was not the woman he had married.

CC

And not for that reason alone.

FACT!

:-)

I hear McCain is considering Warren Jeffs for VP.

"Fact" doesn't cut it. It must be "FACT!" to prove just how ignorant you are. herm

Wot do they call a large fog in Italy?

That's right...a Bigga Mist.

So aside from being an inept, womanizing, gold-diggin, man-whore we now find out that "the Punk" aka McNasty was also a bigamist when he married Mrs McCuntrollop.

Sidney McCain III kicked the mother of his kids to the curb pretty quick after he got back from 'Nam in order to bigamarry (with Pre-nup) Mrs McCain II.

Wotta sleazeball.

Be Well.

/JimmyDeanSausage still getting traction with his R-tard email smear campaigns B Material?

That guy's seriously bent.

FACT!

Been to Italy.

I'd rather have a large frog.

Frog legs cooked on a campfire; Yummy ...

"I hear McCain is considering Warren Jeffs for VP."

Oh, right. This thread is about McCain.

The subject doesn't seem to generate much interest.

I'd rather have a large frog

Mmmm chock fulla amphibian goodness!

Frog legs cooked on a campfire; Yummy

Ever have Chinese Spice Stir Fried Frog?

A baked potato asks, "Ever have Chinese Spice Stir Fried Frog?"

No.

Back in the early 60's in Marlin, Texas we used to camp out at a nearby lake and would paddle about gigging bullfrogs and cooking their legs on the gig over a campfire.

Well I was 13 for that picture.

gigging bullfrogs and cooking their legs on the gig over a campfire.

Sounds like a good gig.

13 for that picture

Spud was two months old when that picture was taken.

Spud used to catch frogs by sneaking up on them with a Campbell's Soup tin nailed to a broken hockey stick.

Didn't eat 'em back then.

Just put 'em back.

The Chase was better than the Catch.

Spud's been in relationships like that too.

Be Well.

Let's all imagine Obama did this.

No free donuts for him. The MSM would be riding him like a mechanical bull.

Oh, I should have ended by post with...

...FACT!!!!

(Although a fair amount of it is, admittedly, my own opinion...)

Now, I'm no lawyer, but most people would agree that a contract is valid not at the beginning of the process, but at the end, when all parties have signed all the paperwork and all legal requirements have been fulfilled

One doesn't have to be a lawyer to figure that out.

Anyways, there's my two cents....

Oh, I should have ended by post with...

...FACT!!!!

(Although a fair amount of it is, admittedly, my own opinion...)

Actually, I would characterize the portion of your post that I reproduced as FACT!

Look at it this way:

If I obtain a marriage liscence and then walk off the altar before the ceremony is complete to bang a bridesmaid was I ever actually married?

This headline is false and I found your post to be very factual in pointing that out.

The headline is absolutely false and I hope RCade alters it when he returns.

But the larger issue is this: A forty-two year old father pursued a wealthy 24 year old heiress and began a relationship with said heiress long before filing for divorce from his wife. He has publically lied about the chronology of events, purposely trying to hide his adultery in the process.

Now I don't know about you, but I'd be all up the ass of a 42 year old trying to pursue a woman that could be his daughter's age. I realize love is sometimes blind, deaf, and dumb, but this border's on the perverse on multiple levels. Seems we're into similar territory as that traveled by Bill Clinton, which led to his impeachment and the public outrage of Republicans everywhere along with many Democrats too. McCain may not have lied under oath, but his judgment should severely be questioned as it pertains to the ultimate course of events which led to the second Mrs. John McCain replacing the first.

I've corrected the headline and added a correction to the story. I'm camping in South Carolina and didn't see the comments here until this morning.

Sorry about the error.

Arizona adultery law still on the books

"I personally wouldn't touch it, just because I think the law should point a moral light," (Ron Gould, R) said. "People have signed a contract that they're going to be married and they ought to honor that contract. . . But when you remove a law, you're basically giving a green light to that."

Seems like it was legal, especially after reading Bartimus's post about AZ marriage law.

Did McCain have to assert that he was free to marry at the time of the license, or did he need to merely assert that he would be free to marry by the time of the wedding? In the first case, he might be accused of making a false official statement. (So he's a politician, isn't that what all politicians do?) But if the second case applies, then he has all of his bases covered.

TOWNNCOUNTRY: Gee for a liberal ASSHOLE you are so smart. Unfortunately Drudge can't find anything more interesting to report on so Jerk Offs like you get your jollies off talking about this stupid subject.

"I'm camping in South Carolina..."

Isn't that the gay place? herm

My husband and I got our marriage license before his divorce was final, but got married after it was, his ex-wife tried to make a big deal out of it but it went nowhere. However, if you read this entire story you will find that McCain was screwing Cindy LONG before he even told his wife he was going to ask for a divorce, I mean LONG before. Even Regan was pissed at him, and I mean really pissed, evidently Carol was a dearly loved woman, and what McCain did to her just pissed off about every republican there was.

so is that the 62nd flip flop?

now was this before or after cindy mccain stole drugs from her non-profit charity to feed her drug addiction?

quite a pair these two. filthy people who think they're above the law.

If this is the best story democrats have to attack mccain this news cycle, then Obama has bigger problems than anybody is willing to admit.

If this is the best story democrats have to attack mccain this news cycle, then Obama has bigger problems than anybody is willing to admit.

Posted by Hagbard_Celine

But it's way better than 'Obama wore a turban -- he is a terrorist sympathizer!'

and way, way better than 'Obama did not wear a flag lapel pin -- he is a terrorist sympathizer!'

and any of the other ridiculous crap you've heard before.

Isn't that the gay place?

I didn't know South Carolina was "so gay" until the trip was underway. Fortunately, as we were crossing the border news broke that it was so not gay.

You libs are realy hurting to find som dirt on the man.

Hey Sniper (dumbass):

Its not about finding dirt its about expsoing a DOULBLE STANDARD!! That you right wing mother fers impose on everyonelse!!!!!!!!!

legal, schmegal... who gives 2 shits? we're really makeing a simple judgement regarding johnny boys moral fiber. since the repugs have all agreed this moral standard is important for candidates lets apply.

If you follow the timeline of when they met, McCain was 'dating' Cindy for months while living with and being married to Carol.

Wonder what he told Carol about where he was.

obviously he was with Sindy long b4 divorice. he had an affair and switched wives---something the evang.]right should be screaming from roof tops.

Hey Sniper (dumbass):

Its not about finding dirt its about expsoing a DOULBLE STANDARD!! That you right wing mother fers impose on everyonelse!!!!!!!!!

Posted by AngelofTRUTH

Hay Ang (dumbass)

What double standard is it that you are exposing?