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On Aug. 28, Barack Obama will formally accept the Democratic presidential nomination at Denver's 76,000-seat football stadium rather than inside the convention site.

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"Well, look," McCain adviser Carly Fiorina said Monday, "John McCain is not going into a stadium and talk to 70,000 people, you all know that.

The costs for managing the wheelchairs, walkers and oxygen tanks alone would be prohibitive.

On Aug. 28, Barack Obama will formally accept the Democratic presidential nomination at Denver's 76,000-seat football stadium rather than inside the convention site.

There aren't enough trucks in the area to deliver the DEPENDStm, ENSUREtm, and defibrillators needed for McCain to match this. Good move, Obama!

John will be accepting at a local denny's, assuming they'll take an out of state seniors' discount card.

Well, this will emphasize the cult-of-personality nature of the Obama phenomenon.

A good idea, since most of the zipperheads that worship this miscreant don't have sense enough to come in from the rain anyway.

Well, this will emphasize the cult-of-personality nature of the Obama phenomenon.

Give me a break. All politics is a popularity contest, you're just pissed McCain and the rest of the Republican Politburo are so underwhelming.


zipperheads that worship this miscreant

Can't seem to grasp that people can support a candidate without "worshipping" him, huh? Flashing back on the good old days of "W is God" back in 2000 and 2004, I guess.

zipperheads

I didn't realize most obama supporters were vietnamese.

enjoy your Offensive flag you racist fucking hillbilly.

Well, this will emphasize the cult-of-personality nature of the Obama phenomenon.

If Ronald Reagan had done the same thing in 1980, would you have called it a cult of personality?

" you're just pissed McCain and the rest of the Republican Politburo are so underwhelming."

Yah. I'm a McCain supporter. Yah.

"If Ronald Reagan had done the same thing in 1980, would you have called it a cult of personality?"

I don't recall what my opinion was in 1980. Sorry.

Are you denying that there isn't a cult of personality among some Obama supporters?

I'll be there for the Broncos home opener on September 14th. The Dems better not piss themselves in my seat.


I heard that McSame was not gonna have a big reception but that it would include Jesus and the reincarnated remains of ronald raygun.

"On Aug. 28, Barack Obama will formally accept the Democratic presidential nomination at Denver's 76,000-seat football stadium rather than inside the convention site."

Republicans - You can eat grasshoppers for protein and munch on cat-tails for starch. When you get your shit back together, let us know.

"Let me put it in pictures for our progressive friends"
directorblue.blogspot.com

For a cult of personality, read Tonyrama. He'll walk to Denver if he has to.

Hey which is worse a cult of personality or loathing the choice of who will hopefully represent You?? I think a Cult of Personality would be welcomed lot better than the cult of shame that lingers upon the Bushites.

Larry

Hell Ray I'd walk with Him if I knew He was going to walk to Denver.

Larry

"Are you denying that there isn't a cult of personality among some Obama supporters?"


Some?

I didn't realize most obama supporters were vietnamese.


enjoy your Offensive flag you racist fucking hillbilly.

zipperhead (ZIP.ur.hed) n. A stupid person, or a person who has a closed mind. Also: zipper-head, zipper head.

www.wordspy.com

As you can see, you're not only ill-informed and unintelligent - you're a zipperhead. Thanks for proving my point.

I would follow you guys to Denver in a big truck if you walk - but only for a short time...

:)

Sign at Invesco Field:

Welcome To Both Liberal Appeasers and African Americans.

Pussies To The Left

Posse's To The Right

www.urbandictionary.com

you know perfectly fucking well what you meant you piece of shit

"Sign at Invesco Field:

Cockflush just ain't funny"


"Are you denying that there isn't a cult of personality among some Obama supporters?"


Some?

Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch at 2008-07-07 10:10 PM

Are you kidding me? He's a Fucking Rock Star!

The Rethugs only wish they had something with the kind of draw power Obama has.

Hell, my kids want to see him.

COOKFISH

You going to the Twin Cities for the GOP convention?

They're 4000 volunteers short, and having a hard time coming up with enough Republicans who put their time where their mouth is.

Winners to the left

Losers to the right

"Well, look," McCain adviser Carly Fiorina said Monday, "John McCain is not going into a stadium and talk to 70,000 people, you all know that. It's not his personality"

News to Spud.

NOT that McCain aint gonna give his acceptance speech to 70,000 people.

That's obvious.

As Silver Ironist sed...

The costs for managing the wheelchairs, walkers and oxygen tanks alone would be prohibitive.

FF cos it's TRUE! Woo Hoo!

Nope the part that Spud found to be significant was the part where they imply that McCain actually has a personality.

Is nice that Obama is gonna break with tradition here. The anniversary of King's Dream speech thing is pretty cool too.

G08ama.

Be Well.

Is he going to say "Wow....wow....wow....wow....w ow...wow" again like he did in Oregon with that crowd that came to see the rock band? Who is leading off this event? I heard it was the Rolling Stones. Obama will be the half time show.

It will be an awful big carbon footprint for this "green" convention.

When McCain draws 7000, let alone 70,000 get back to us, eh?

Right now, most of McCain's folks are afraid to clap lest the lights go out (clap on....clap off)

This football stadium thing is actually a brilliant piece of political strategy, using sheer numbers to show off the unity of the Democratic Party.

Absolutely brilliant.

McCain's camp must be completely demoralized. By comparison, their own acceptance shindig is going to look like a meeting in a phone booth.

Obama gets 24pt print in the media and suffocates McCain in the process.

WOW!



Is he going to say "Wow....wow....wow....wow....w ow...wow" again like he did in Oregon with that crowd that came to see the rock band? Who is leading off this event? I heard it was the Rolling Stones. Obama will be the half time show.


It will be an awful big carbon footprint for this "green" convention.

Posted by KBM


There should be a "pointless post" flag, don't you think?

Mr. Personality, that's Obama for ya. When did the Presidency become a popularity contest?

I suppose Obama's obvious lack of experience in government and leadership roles should be thrown by the wayside.

Oops! Is that on Obama's list of "Things You Cannot Say about Me"?

Who's gonna clean up the chicken bones, watermelon rinds and malt liquor cans?

"I suppose Obama's obvious lack of experience in government and leadership roles should be thrown by the wayside. Oops! Is that on Obama's list of "Things You Cannot Say about Me"?"

On the contrary: say it all the time.

The response, each time, will be "...and look where the current "experience in government and leadership" has brought us."

So, by all means, continue with the losing strategies.

"Who's gonna clean up the chicken bones, watermelon rinds and malt liquor cans?"

And Republicans wonder why they don't get the black vote.

a $5.00 donation to Obama's campaign puts you in a drawing to win 2 nights hotel at convention plus a "backstage" pass at the convention. I sent in my $5.00 so he will be beholden to my and the other $5.00 donors interests!

To the surprise of absolutely nobody, Barack Obama launched several attacks on achievement yesterday, slamming John McCain's tax proposals. Obama absolutely cannot stand the idea of successful people being allowed to keep more of the money they earn. After all, as Obama would tell you, those people don't actually need that money, so it is perfectly OK for the government to seize that excess cash and use it for various vote-buying schemes.

Obama likes to say that nobody earning less than $250,000 a year would have their taxes increased under his plan. Well, isn't that special. I know that many of you really don't give a damn about those wicked people earning more than $250,000 a year. They're rich, to hell with them. Take their money and spend it on you, right? After all, they were just lucky, or they got that money by relying on their crooked lawyers and cheating ordinary working American. Oh, I can hear the moans in the Democrat coffee klatches now.

There are 23 million small business owners in America who file their business income taxes as an individual taxpayer. These small business owners employ people ... tens of millions of people. In fact, the small business owners of this country provide way more than 70% of the private sector jobs out there. When Obama talks about raising taxes on people who make more than $250,000 a year he's talking about raising taxes on the man or woman who writes your paycheck. Now ... would you care to spend a few of your precious minutes thinking about the logical consequences of raising taxes on your employer? Do you think they're just going to cut back on the money they take from their business operation? Oh yeah, sure they will. Now I know that you're government educated, but surely you can see that these people are going to adjust to their increased tax load by cutting back on business expenses. You don't expect them to cut their own pay, do you? Hey! It's their business! They started this thing, and they don't intend to see the lives they've built for themselves be diminished by some Democrats tax dreams so expenses get cut. Now --- guess what you are? There, that wasn't so hard, was it? You, my friend, are a business expense. Are you going to be the business expense that gets cut? Perhaps so ... and then what happens? The evil rich have now they have taken away YOUR job, and you hate them even more. Hint: It wasn't your job, it was theirs.. when it became a financial burden, they dumped it.

Any way you look at it, a winning formula for the Democrats --- a winning formula until, that is, American voters start to smarten up.

Thanks Mr. Boortz.

Very good comments

The Gaming Authority is looking in to the legalities of that $5 donation thing.

Americonversionvan,
The clapper joke, as you know, was already done. Nice try though Mencia.

Danforth,
Perhaps you've got things backwards? Bush didn't have experience remember. Look where that lack of experience has gotten us. It mattered in 2000, but in 2008 it doesn't? And the same goes for the people that defended that lack of experience in 2000 and now bemoaning it in 2008 (although Bush's reign serves as a good lesson as to what lack of experience can do).

Look no further than the retard from canada, his wanna-be donnerboy, tonyroma, americanunity, Boyd and his 94 handles, and herm for your Obama cult of personality.

"Bush didn't have experience remember."

WTF are you talking about? Bush was governor of Texas, the same type of "executive experience" Romney and Huckabee backers were touting. And let's not forget, part of Bush's "experienced team" included old hands like Cheney & Rumsfeld.

WTF are you talking about? Bush was governor of Texas, the same type of "executive experience" Romney and Huckabee backers were touting. And let's not forget, part of Bush's "experienced team" included old hands like Cheney & Rumsfeld.

Posted by Danforth at 2008-07-08 10:06 AM | Reply


You know exactly what I'm talking about. The 2000 mantra of the Dems was that Bush had no experience. There's no sense in discussing this fact further because everyone including you knows that was the case.

Now, for some unexplained reason experience no longer matters.

"You know exactly what I'm talking about."

What? It was Kerry who was bashed by the Rs because he had no experience being a state executive.

More to the point, we both know what's going on.

If it were Governor Vilsac against Senator McCain, Ds would claim only their candidate had executive experience on a large level. And if it were Governor Romney against Senator Obama, the Rs would make the claim.

It's all a parlor trick. Now with two senators (gasp!---no exec experience!) Rs are merely substituting experienced for---in this case---old.

Dan, I can deal with one candidate having less than the other.

Obama has only had 143 days experience in the US Senate! He's hardly had time to know what is going on.

"When Obama talks about raising taxes on people who make more than $250,000 a year he's talking about raising taxes on the man or woman who writes your paycheck."

What a load of bull shit. The tax will only apply to their personal income, and if it is over $250,000 then they will pay higher taxes. Boortz tries dishonestly to pretend that if their small business grosses 250K and that they then will have to pay income tax on that amount. This fucking liar says we are "business expenses" and that is fine but "business expenses" are deducted before the employers net income is computed so really the more he pays us the less tax he is going to owe.
But KC101 falls for this dishonest crap and really thinks that raising income tax on those who make $250,000 per year is going to cause his employer to fire him or lower his pay. Ridiculous and Neil Boortz knew he was lying when he wrote it.

Boortz tries dishonestly to pretend that if their small business grosses 250K and that they then will have to pay income tax on that amount.

Posted by danni at 2008-07-08 11:24 AM | Reply

No he doesn't. Not even close.


Who's gonna clean up the chicken bones, watermelon rinds and malt liquor cans?

Posted by shirtsbyeric at 2008-07-08 07:45 AM


I'm going to do it, with your shirt, Eric, OK?

Here's how the average tax bill could change in 2009 if either John McCain's or Barack Obama's tax proposals were fully in place.

Income Avg. MCCAIN OBAMA

Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885
$603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974
$227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12
$161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789
$112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204
$66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290
$38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042
$19K-$38K -$113 -$892
Under $19K -$19 -$567

money.cnn.com

When Obama talks about raising taxes on people who make more than $250,000 a year he's talking about raising taxes on the man or woman who writes your paycheck.

People earning more than $250,000 a year have made out like bandits under President Bush, getting huge tax cuts. If those are the folks who sign our paychecks, and there's a direct relationship between their income and ours, then why didn't our income increase over that period?

Anybody in this country who's pulling down a quarter-mil a year should be glad to pay more towards the government through progressive taxes. They've been enormously blessed in our country and should be glad to be in a position to support it. Including Boortz.

Instead, they use their money to buy laws that ensure that they pay as little as possible, or even hide their money offshore. Some patriots.

to clarify YAV's reference to money.cnn, values look at the last row -19 and -567

McCain gives a 19.00 tax break
Obama gives a $567.00 tax break
(the numbers are negatives)

in my case
McCain gives me a $1,009 break
Obama gives me a $1,209 break
I like my break under Obama!

I'll spend the extra $200 on gift for my wife

"This football stadium thing is actually a brilliant piece of political strategy, using sheer numbers to show off the unity of the Democratic Party. Absolutely brilliant."

You guys will need "unity" to hold you together. Hope and change isn't going to cut it when:

"Congressional Approval Falls to Single Digits for First Time Ever"

"The percentage of voters who give Congress good or excellent ratings has fallen to single digits for the first time in Rasmussen Reports tracking history...The percentage of Democrats who give Congress positive ratings fell from 17% last month to 13% this month....Voters not affiliated with either party are the most critical of Congressional performance. Just 3% of those voters give Congress positive ratings, down from 6% last month...Just 12% of voters think Congress has passed any legislation to improve life in this country over the past six months...Most voters (72%) think most members of Congress are more interested in furthering their own political careers. Just 14% believe members are genuinely interested in helping people."

You asked for a Democrat run congress in '06 and you got it! Didn't your mothers ever tell be careful what you ask for because you just might get it.

The link:

rasmussenreports.com

Neal Boortz is a snake-oil salesman and a scum bag who is just trying to sell books to idiots who believe his idiot message.

KBM is right, it's time for change and that means support Obama!

"Democratic officials said they decided to move the speech from the city's 21,000-seat basketball arena,... to the football stadium to lend the speech a greater sense of history. Obama, the first black presidential candidate of a major American political party, will deliver his acceptance speech on Aug. 28, the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream Speech," which is considered one of the seminal moments of the civil rights movement."

I thought that it was irrelevant that he is black?

I thought that it was irrelevant that he is black?

You're capable of much better than that.

You asked for a Democrat run congress in '06 and you got it! Didn't your mothers ever tell be careful what you ask for because you just might get it.

Congress isn't Democratically controlled. The House is, barely. The Senate isn't at all.

Here's the hard truth for you: The American people are pissed at Republicans for the past 7 years, and they're even more pissed at the obstruction of the GOP since 2006. That poll's not far off the mark, but understand the reasons or you'll end up shooting your own foot off.

July 8th:

Projected Senate: Dem 55 GOP 45
Currently Dem 49 GOP 49

Projected House: Dem 239 GOP 196
Currently: Dem 233 GOP 202

"You're capable of much better than that."

You're right. knee jerk devil's advocate and all. still though...

Boortz tries dishonestly to pretend that if their small business grosses 250K and that they then will have to pay income tax on that amount. This fucking liar says we are "business expenses" and that is fine but "business expenses" are deducted before the employers net income is computed so really the more he pays us the less tax he is going to owe.

101 already addressed this but you need to retract this retarded assertion Danni. Boortz doesn't say this at all.

Posted by KBM at 2008-07-08 12:34 PM

"Congressional Approval Falls to Single Digits for First Time Ever"

Sorry kbm, but that is a completely meaningless figure. Doubt that? Then answer these 2 questions:

1. Are the House and Senate likely to gain Democrats in the upcoming election?

2. Will most (over 95%) of incumbents be re-elected?

Answering "yes" to those two questions highlights why the Congressional Approval rate in this election is meaningless.

"When Obama talks about raising taxes on people who make more than $250,000 a year he's talking about raising taxes on the man or woman who writes your paycheck."

The ones who don't pay taxes. I've represented a lot of so-called "small business owners" over the years, and I swear to god hardly any of them pay a fucking dime in taxes. They all have a new F-350 HD and a boat and a lake house, but their so-called "business expenses" (which for some reasons includes the toilet paper in their own home and the riding lawn mower in their garage) always seems to match or exceed their revenue, and voila, no tax burden.

Obama absolutely cannot stand the idea of successful people being allowed to keep more of the money they earn.

tell me again how paris hilton or Cindi McSame "earned" their money.


**** I'll be there for the Broncos home opener on September 14th. The Dems better not piss themselves in my seat.
Posted by Whatsleft ****

......did you get that promotion to selling hot dogs or are you still on the broom detail ?.....


*** Well, this will emphasize the cult-of-personality nature of the Obama phenomenon.

Posted by nullifidian ****

.....that's because he has a personality....

....unlike the pale pasty puppet of the right......

"Boortz doesn't say this at all."

"When Obama talks about raising taxes on people who make more than $250,000 a year he's talking about raising taxes on the man or woman who writes your paycheck."

He's certainly suggesting it's typical for business owners with employees to make---net---over $250,000, if he's warning everyone their bosses are going to be hurt by a tax at that level. I'm sure Neal isn't upset a portion of his listeners don't know the difference between net and gross.

The ones who don't pay taxes. I've represented a lot of so-called "small business owners" over the years, and I swear to god hardly any of them pay a fucking dime in taxes. They all have a new F-350 HD and a boat and a lake house, but their so-called "business expenses" (which for some reasons includes the toilet paper in their own home and the riding lawn mower in their garage) always seems to match or exceed their revenue, and voila, no tax burden.

Yeah, but that doesn't fit in with their talking points.

"tell me again how paris hilton or Cindi McSame "earned" their money."

The same way as Heinz Kerry, all the Kennedy brothers and Al Gore did. John Kerry just married it.

......did you get that promotion to selling hot dogs or are you still on the broom detail ?.....

The season tickets have belonged to my family for over 30 years, but you're funny anyway. When I was a kid I knew several guys who DID sell hotdogs at games, just to get in.

I'm sure Neal isn't upset a portion of his listeners don't know the difference between net and gross.


You mean the liberals right. Because the only one here I saw misunderstand that was Danni.

"the only one here I saw misunderstand"

Two questions:

1. Is Boortz pretending this is typical or not?

2. Does the typical business owner with employees net $250K/yr?

Maybe a better question:

Of the 20 public businesses closest to your house, how many owners net over $250,000?

For me, two. Not the breakfast/lunch place owner. Not the locksmith, or the hair salon, or the small restaurants. Not even the gas station owner. Two: the bank, and the doctor.

Danforth,

I agree that it is disenguous to say that the typical small business owner nets that much.

I know many who gross in the millions and don't make more than $60K

I agree that it is disenguous to say that the typical small business owner nets that much.

Exactly.

Two: the bank, and the doctor.

And, even the doctor would be a surprise.

"This football stadium thing is actually a brilliant piece of political strategy, using sheer numbers to show off the unity of the Democratic Party."


Nah, 2 little fishes and 5 loaves of bread won't keep the multitudes fed

Perhaps if you had payed more attention in school and tried a little harder afterward, you would be making that kind of money. Would you want to give it away?

What happened to rewarding people for their hard work?
Oh yeah, we live in an "every-kid-gets-a-trophy" society.

If we started punishing laziness instead of rewarding it, I would bet on the strength of the Country and the dollar getting to all-time highs. Your thoughts?

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