Bush: Leave Iraq Oil Deals Alone

"Iraq is a sovereign country"

Then what in the fuck are we doing there?

Man this admin can double speak its way out of everything.

I can only pity the fools that fall for their bullshit.

You know who you are........

Posted by Manypaths at 2008-06-24 06:07 PM |

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The Democrats responded that while Iraq may be sovereign, the U.S. is entitled to speak up because of the number of troops and dollars it has invested in the country's future. "When it has been in our interest to try to get the Iraqi government to do something that this administration really wanted them to do, they do it,...

What a joke. Bush now says he doesn't want to butt into Iraq's business and the oil contracts belong to the private sector so it's not the U.S. government's job to make sure the contracts are done fairly. Yeah, Bush won't butt in, at least not when it comes to his oil boys reaping the spoils of his war in Iraq. Bush had a hand in every single thing the Iraq government has done before -- nothing was done with his say so. Now Bush says making sure the distribution of the biggest spoil of his war in Iraq -- the oil -- first be done properly and fairly is now none of our business?

I've got news for Bush. As long as our military is over there being shot at there on our taxpayer dollars, we have every right to say what goes. Most importantly, right now Baghdad --before any oil contracts are dealt out -- first needs to decide which groups of Iraqis (Sunnis, Shias, Kurds) get what percentage of the oil revenues otherwise our military guys face another huge surge in violence across that entire country.

Can't deny it now. We went to war to take their oil in locked up, no bid contracts. Don't all you Bushlovers who got into a snit and denied it every time someone said Bush went to war in Iraq for their oil feel like total fools now? You should. Guess you believed anything Bush told you and probably still do.

Although I know it's better we get Iraq's oil rather than Communist China why did Bush and the Neocons make up lies about all the WMD crap? They should have just been honest with the American peoploe and said if the U.S. doesn't get Iraq's oil first China and Russia will. Why couldn't the U.S. just have negotiated and locked in good deals for our U.S. companies with Saddam for Iraq's oil? Why did we have to destroy their country and kill hundreds of thousands of their people to steal it?

btw -- under Saddam the Iraqi people paid 5 cents a gallon for gasoline. Since Bush attacked Iraq the poor people there now pay 500% more for gasoline and it hurts them alot as they make next to nothing in money.

I will now step down off my soapbox.

peoploe = people

The last thing anybody wants is for the price of oil to go down

see Greg Palast's Armed Madhouse

CC...NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOUR SPELLING...EXCEPT THE SPELLING NAZI WHO CAN BY THE WAY GO FUCK THEMSELVES

BACK TO THE THREAD....

Bush now says he doesn't want to butt into Iraq's business and the oil contracts belong to the private sector so it's not the U.S. government's job to make sure the contracts are done fairly

CC....when did Bush say the contracts belonged to America...and when did Bush say he wanted the US government to oversee iraqi oil contracts

PS...i want solid answers...i do not want to hear how you FEEL about this

Judas

CC....when did Bush say the contracts belonged to America...and when did Bush say he wanted the US government to oversee iraqi oil contracts

PS...i want solid answers...i do not want to hear how you FEEL about this

When Bush allowed NO BID oil contracts to be handed out to U.S. oil BEFORE the Iraq government can even get distribution percentages in place for which Iraq group gets how much of the oil Bush literally GAVE the oil to U.S. oil companies. No bid -- meaning NO ONE ELSE gets the oil contracts but the U.S Understand now?

Bush has handled every single thing the Iraq government has ever done so far since he attacked Iraq in 2003 -- everything. Now all of the sudden -- on the most important deal of all -- which group of Iraqis get which percentage of the oil revenues Bush remains silent? You must be kidding me, Judas.

Do you know the hell that is going to break lose in Iraq if the Sunnis feel the Shias shortchanged them and got more of the oil than they feel the Shia should get? Or if the Kurds in Northern Iraq get more of the oil than the Shiites think they should get? Or if the Shiite think the Sunnis...blah blah blah.

None of the oil distribution shares have even been decided yet by Baghdad. It is VERY important those details are worked out BEFORE any oil company gets an oil deal in Iraq. Good Lord if I even know that fact surely your boy Bush knows it. And he does. He just could care less.

You think you saw violence in Iraq before? If one group or another of Iraqis feel they are getting the short end of the stick on the oil revenues you haven't even begun to see a battle. And our military kids over there will be in the thick of the fighting.

CC,

Although I know it's better we get Iraq's oil rather than Communist China

Just because U.S. companies may be pumping the oil, doesn't mean the oil is going to end up in the U.S.

CC...NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOUR SPELLING...EXCEPT THE SPELLING NAZI WHO CAN BY THE WAY GO FUCK THEMSELVES.

Cood not argee with u mor. (grin)

actually, I would disappointed if Bush did give it back to the "liberators". He then might only be as bad as LBJ then:>)

Just because U.S. companies may be pumping the oil, doesn't mean the oil is going to end up in the U.S.

Posted by Whatsleft at 2008-06-24 09:20 PM

You are 100% right. We merely sent 4100 (so far) of our military boys to die in Iraq and spent trillions of our own tax dollars for Bush's war to allow U.S. oil to get their hands on Iraq's oil and dump it into the world's common oil market -- at a very nice profit to themselves. Bush and his Neocon thugs have absolutely no intention of paying back our Treasury with any Iraq oil revenues. Bush and his boys got theirs so f__k the American taxpayers, right?

The war was, in part, for the price of oil. In that respect, the war was a huge success.

why are we still wondering about this?

absolutely HG...now if they could only figure out how to nail Iran...

CC...the no bid contracts were during the time of the iraqi transitional government.....america had to insure the oil kept flowing.....so those in the iraqi government got paid

now that the iraqi government is in place....you would think the oil is going to be nationalized....and that the oil would not be split by sectarian groups...i believe this is going to happen

its like when people talk about sectarian violence in iraq.....they make it sound like the iraq government is causeing the violence....and thats why a democratic iraq can never become....my take on sectarian violence is because of intollerance....just like america having intollerance in its early years

Bani, you been at this all day?
Damn, you're tireless.

From what I gather on this blog, nailing Iran is gonna be hella easy... or at least the attempt will be. Even the most liberal pols have told the people to shove it... and we're sitting around arguing about who is going to give it to us the nicest.

rape is still rape even if the rapist uses some lube and a condom, right?

Posted by Hagbard_Celine

gee, as long as Russia gets their strokes ~ who cares:>)

gee, as long as Russia gets their strokes ~ who cares:>)
Posted by Bani

"In devastation there is opportunity..."

Carlton Brown in The Corporation, discussing how commodities brokers were salivating at the idea about war with iraq, ever since 91 when the price of oil went from 13 to 40 dollars per barrel

one of the commodity secrets you won't find in too many places w/o paying a niffy buck is each commodity has 6 traders who can buy as many contracts as they can afford at usually $50 or more a contract ~ a huge discount ~ & then they are every business day usually given directions ~ either among themselves or ? ~ on how to drive the market one way or another ~ thruout the day if neccessary.

These are the real market movers outside the commercials...

I've lost lots money trading commodities before paying seerious money for this info from a former floor trader who teachs how to follow them:>)

6 floor traders...

I've lost lots money trading commodities before paying seerious money for this info from a former floor trader who teachs how to follow them:>)

Posted by Bani

Where's my shotgun so I can blow my brains out... oh yeah, I don't own one... damn.

blog ya tomorrow, bani... gotta get to bed. stayed up late last night seeing Herbie Hancock at carnegie hall.

Mannnnnn what a lying shmuck Dubya is. What a worthless piece of shit.

Larry

Say's the oil man....

'Iraq is a sovereign country, and it can make decisions based on how it feels that it wants to move forward in its development of its oil resources," said White House spokeswoman Dana Perino.'

Why is this idiot speaking in the present tense?

Posted by Sully

No conscience?

"who warn that the deals feed the perception that U.S. involvement in Iraq was motivated by oil.

How the hell else is Iraq's economy going to be stable? You want Iraq to ignore the oil and concentrate on exporting doughnuts?

"When Bush allowed NO BID oil contracts to be handed out to U.S. oil ......."

Sorry Chris, but 'Bush" did not "allow" this. Otherwise you would not see Dutch, French, british and Japanese companies involved. Must torque you to see that Iraq is actually enjoying soveriegnty

"allow U.S. oil to get their hands on Iraq's oil and dump it into the world's common oil market "

You still don't understand how commodities work. Maybe because you're just a girl. What would be your response if we pumped 5 million barrels a day from Iraq, exclusively for the US?

War for oil?

Make up your mind

Aws Greenspan made clear, this is what its all REALLY ABOUT. Not control of oil prices, but control of the flow. What remains unclear is if our continuing military presence can guarantee that control against the will of the remaining 20 million Iraqis. What happened to the other 5 million people, including 1 million Christians is of no concern to BushCo or his Evangelical contingent.

Bush stole this oil with a gun and is now using a puppet government to create new contracts and cancel existing ones. This is why McSame says we need to maintain a presence for a 100 years. The threat of death by US forces is the only way to ensure that the stealing will continue. US & British owned International Oil Companies will benefit, at least in the short term, but the people who have paid in blood and taxes will be thrown to the wayside.

Leave the oil deals alone because Shrubbies retirement fund will go away like so many others have. Mess with the oil companies money mand you just might be on the wrong end of an FBI investigation.

Mess with these "kindly" contracts and Halliburton may give "The Dick" Cheney far less than his well earned share.

Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera

Bush won!

He did what he set out to do.

It took a lot longer than expected and cost billions more but he succeeded. I doubt if he cares what people say, now that it's all but a done deal.

I'd like to think he'd get off this ANWAR kick now but that's unlikely. The Trans-Alaska pipeline is due to become unprofitable to operate shortly and the owners of the pipeline, BP, Exxon/Mobil, Hess, Phillips and Unocol are screaming their heads off about the pipeline's loss of revenue without ANWR.

Surely nobody is falling for that old dodge, "help to make America independent." We heard that same song about oil from the North Slope, if you all recall. It's all one big joke on the American people.

and when did Bush say he wanted the US government to oversee iraqi oil contracts

2003-the original plan was for an appointed (by the CPA)Iraq government to auction off the oil fields to a select (US) group of bidders. Al sistani stopped that, but Bush is still hanging in...

ANYONE with at least 2 brain cells to rub together should have known what the Iraq War was all about. The Iraq War was about Oil and the Afghanistan war was really about the Natural Gas/Oil pipeline from the Caspian Basin through Afghanistan. Hell if some dumb hayseed from Kansas could figure it out surely ANYONE else could as well.

Larry

"What would be your response if we pumped 5 million barrels a day from Iraq, exclusively for the US?"

I'd think that the claim that Iraq is sovereign is obviously a lie. Iraq is as sovereign as are the Indian tribes in the US....exactly as sovereign as the US decides they are.

For fun google Bush explaining the meaning of sovereign....he uses a word that he could only define with that same word. An idiot but a great oil theif.

For anyone to assume these contracts, achieved under duress, will hold in the long haul, is absurd. Of course this asshole is just trying to reach January 2009.

The War in Iraq was a complete success. At least for Bush and his corporate welfare clan.

We never invaded to eliminate a dangerous dictator nor did we invade on the premise of terrorism.

We invaded because:

1. W wanted to outdo Daddy.

2. "After all, this is the guy that wanted to kill my Dad!"

3. W wanted to be a "War Time President"

4. OIL

Isn't is funny how in the last 7 months of his term, the REAL truth comes out? After all of this time, NOW Big Oil goes in to get the Iraqi oil.

A little to convenient if you ask me.

When will someone be held accountable for all of this?

"Iraq is a sovereign country, and it can make decisions based on how it feels that it wants to move forward in its development of its oil resources," said White House spokeswoman Dana Perino.

The press conference was cut short as Ms. Perino dodged lightening bolts, left and right.

Hell PDAGUY I knew the TRUTH even before it was started. It wsn't too difficult to figure out either. It wasn't rocket science for pete sake

Larry Mohr

One could say, "We'll leave the Iraq deals alone when you leave the Iraqi people alone".

Better head for Paraguay. They are uniquely free of any extradiction treaties.

IRAQ OIL..NO . IT`S USA OIL. THERE IS NO IRAQ....

Better head for Paraguay. They are uniquely free of any extradiction treaties.

Posted by nutcase

There's a treaty, its just that it wasn't ever ratified... conveniently.
en.wikipedia.org

The puppet government of Iraq has decided to give USA oil companies run of the place.

Surprise Surprise Surprise.

And at the low low cost of 4100 american lives.

IF THERE IS NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO IMPEACH, WE ARENT LOOKING!!!

To families who has lost love ones there, you have my condolences.

IF THERE IS NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO IMPEACH, WE ARENT LOOKING!!!
Posted by fresno500

It's that there isn't enough will among democrats to impeach. they are about demonstrating how successful the gop is at fillibustering any and all legislation.

Like i always say... incumbency over constituency

Hell if some dumb hayseed from Kansas could figure it out surely ANYONE else could as well.

Larry

Posted by LarryMohr at 2008-06-25 11:55 AM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
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Not really, dumb hayseeds are too dumb to know how dumb they really are.

oh please dont dig too deep into thier paperwork...cuz youll eventually find my name...G.W.B.

Schumer, and Kerry say this could "fan the idea that the invasion was for oil?" what have they been doing since 2004...Does any body actually vote for these embeciles. If Exxon or Shell can get in there legitimately , Why do democrats always have to meddle in some way...I am this close to torches and pitchforks...Someone give these elite , over educated idiots..Something productive to do...

"Bush: Leave Iraq Oil Deals Alone"

Fuck you Mr. Irrelevant. Please vacate the premises so we can fumigate your stench from the grounds.