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Thursday, June 19, 2008

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Wednesday he opposes lifting a ban on new oil drilling in coastal waters, breaking with President Bush and Republican presidential candidate John McCain. He called California's coastline "an international treasure" that must be protected by a federal oil-drilling moratorium that has been in place for 27 years.

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"We're serious about that, and we're not going to change that," he told reporters and business executives at BIO International, an annual biotechnology industry conference in San Diego.

Schwarzenegger, who has endorsed McCain's presidential bid, said the federal offshore drilling ban was not to blame for soaring gas prices. In a statement issued earlier in the day, the governor said technological innovations and expanded fuel choices for consumers ultimately will lead the way to reduced fuel costs.

"We are in this situation because of our dependence on traditional petroleum-based oil," Schwarzenegger said in the statement, which referred only to Bush's call for lifting the ban and did not mention McCain.

Bush on Wednesday urged Congress to lift the federal ban on offshore oil and gas drilling as a way to boost domestic energy production. His call followed a statement earlier in the week by McCain, who said removing the ban would be a key part of his energy plan. He said states should be allowed to receive some of the royalty revenue from energy taken from their coastal waters.

McCain's proposal was endorsed Wednesday by Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, considered a possible running mate for the Arizona senator. Crist cited rising fuel prices for dropping his long-standing support for the federal government's moratorium.

McCain's position puts him at odds with Schwarzenegger, only the latest issue on which the two Republicans differ. While both have expressed a sense of urgency in dealing with global warming, they disagree on how to provide health care reform, setting timelines for troop withdrawal in Iraq and abortion. I'm very happy that both are strong in this area," he said.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said lifting the drilling moratorium is an unnecessary risk that could allow unreliable oil rigs to be as close as three miles to California's beaches. "Californians are all too familiar with the consequences of offshore drilling," Feinstein said in a statement issued Tuesday. She cited the 1969 spill off the coast of Santa Barbara that killed scores of birds and marine mammals, and soiled miles of coastline with balls of tar. "And we know this could happen again," Feinstein said.

There are 79 active oil and gas leases off California's coast in federal waters, 43 of which are producing, said John Romero, a spokesman with the Pacific office of the Minerals Management Service, part of the U.S. Interior Department. The others are tied up in court. An estimated 10 billion barrels of undiscovered oil and nearly 17 trillion cubic feet of undiscovered natural gas lie three miles from California's coast,....

McCain wants to allow states to decide whether to explore their coastal waters for those undiscovered reserves, something Californians would be unlikely to support, said state Assembly Speaker Karen Bass. "The idea of increasing offshore drilling off the coast of California I think is absurd, and I can't even imagine we would entertain that," the Los Angeles Democrat said...."

The Governator says Bring it on BushCo!

Go AHnold!

"We are in this situation because of our dependence on traditional petroleum-based oil," Schwarzenegger said in the statement, which referred only to Bush's call for lifting the ban and did not mention McCain.

Californians are all too familiar with the consequences of offshore drilling," Feinstein said in a statement issued Tuesday.

She cited the 1969 spill off the coast of Santa Barbara that killed scores of birds and marine mammals, and soiled miles of coastline with balls of tar.

YEAH!

And He is RIGHT!

I didn't think California would approve off shore drilling.
Funny, the Republican governor of Florida said "Yes! Drill off our shores " and California's Republican governor said "No way."

When Bush guarantees that all oil drilled off our shores will stay here for U.S. consumers and not dumped into the worldwide common oil market maybe -- just maybe -- California might reconsider. Until then we're not messing up our gorgeous coastline to drill for oil and have it shipped to Japan or India or anywhere else in the world except here in the USA. We Americans also want our states to get big financial kickbacks from the oil companies for allowing drilling off our shores.

"Funny, the Republican governor of Florida said "Yes!"

Funny but I don't think it is so funny.
If Charlie isn't picked for VP he will probably flip flop back to being Florida's governor.

Ostrich.

Does Schwarzenegger still rocket around California in a Hummer? If he does I'll listen to him on this subject when he converts it to a pedal car.

If I heard right, today the price of oil went down like $5 a barrel. (See a comment I posted on the nooner about China cutting some oil subsidies).

The conclusion we can draw is that high consumer demand, especially abroad, is probably the number one reason why oil's price is so high.

Half the people of Earth live in countries where the govt subsidizes oil low. While Americans pay according to market fluctuations, people in other countries are not exposed to the market and therefore consume more oil than if they were paying the market price.

In other words, socialism abroad ends up screwing the American consumer. The same thing happens with prescription drugs. There is too much socialism abroad, that is the problem.

And if you believe humans contribute to climate change, then you can conclude that socialism leads to global warming. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

"Half the people of Earth live in countries where the govt subsidizes oil low."

Unlike the US where we give subsidies to oil companies.....er....what the hell are you smoking???

Looks like I'll have to re-evaluate my opinion of "Last Action Hero".

"The conclusion we can draw is that high consumer demand, especially abroad, is probably the number one reason why oil's price is so high."

I come to a different conclusion.

"Half the people of Earth live in countries where the govt subsidizes oil low."


The population of Kuwait is that large?

Who knew?

Arnold is about to learn what being slam dunked is about.

Hey asshole, we need oil and we have oil for the taking. This is a frigging no brainier. Right down your alley.

Tree huggers, like it or not you must lose. You are right that there is a risk to the environment. We will just have to make it as fool proof as it can be made. For once stop dragging every damned thing through the courts and stretching the time line out forever. At a minimum, we need to know just what oil is where and we need this information now. Because of global uncertainty concerning weather and availability we must due the advance work no matter where that might be. Yes the does mean Denali National Park. There is a real potential for a huge oil reserve being found. This has such great potential to our country that to deny even exploration is criminal.

Hug all of the trees you want. This isn't a bad thing as our environment is just as important. You must not be blind to the needs of our country. And at the same time many of us will hope that you can work with this effort to make certain of our environment.

Fight for what is right, that is both oil and the Earth.

"Hey asshole, we need oil and we have oil for the taking. This is a frigging no brainier. Right down your alley."

And what sacrifice are you willing to make to solve the energy problem? Are you willing to pay higher gas taxes to reduce consumption? Or should only coastal residents be responsible for filling your gas tank?

Hey asshole, we need oil and we have oil for the taking.

If WE got the oil, then okay. But we won't.
Big oil wants to drill but then put the oil they suck up from Americans into the world's common oil market which guarantees American citizens zilch.

I'm not having my coastline in California dug up and the chance of huge oil spills just so somebody in Indonesia can put gas in his motorscooter. Big oil has no intention of lowering the price nor will they and their boy Bush guarantee that we Americans get the oil that comes from our own land and coastline.

I'm on a roll. Just got home and saw regular unleaded was $4.89 a gallon.

We have been Bushwacked upside the head by big oil.

Let Bush drop the embargo with Cuba and negotiate oil leases with the Cuba government instead of letting China get first grabs on it. Is there anything Bush won't do to cater to big oil and his best Commie buddies in China? Nope!

Besides, how much Florida Cuban butt do we Americans have to keep on kissing anyway?

Those Florida Cubans are never going to get their families' old property and land back they lost when Castro took over in Cuba over 40 ago so tell them to just deal with it and drop the grudge. And I'm tired of the Republicans always bending over and grabbing their ankles (something Republican men seem quite adept at doing, huh?) in exchange for getting Florida's Cuban vote every election.

If the Florida Cubans don't like us dropping Cuba's embargo so we Americans can negotiate for oil leases/supplies with Cuba's government for the benefit of ALL Americans -- and not just always be thinking of their own special interests -- then they ought to pack up and go to another country.

Nullanvoid-I made no attempt tp give a solution to the ills of either this country or the world. I made a statement I believe to be true. Determine just what the hell we are even talking about first. The tree huggers have blocked even the exploration in an area of our country that may well be huge or not. The criminal act is in refusing to even allow us to find out.

When it comes to a "final" solution, it seems that you have that under control. You have the same feel to you beliefs as does "The Shrubbie", a "my way or the highway" affair.

Finding oil will not solve our energy issues. refusing to even look isn't going to do anything but more of the same. We are finding that it isn't working.

As to what sacrifice am I willing to take? I have not, nor am I going to even address this question as it is a totally separate issue. Yes, related, but separate.

"As to what sacrifice am I willing to take? I have not, nor am I going to even address this question as it is a totally separate issue. Yes, related, but separate."

No it's not. I might be willing to support drilling if those screaming for it are willing to make sacrifices of their own, like accepting higher gas taxes. Until then, forget it. This is just pushing the responsibility for energy supplies upon people in coastal areas who own beachfront property or work in tourism, etc. What's that? 1 percent of the population?

NULL-You are not getting the point. First find out what if anything there is to talk about. You have a great concern with taxes. Fine, lets find something to tax.

The only energy that is not government regulated/owned is gas, have to wonder why that is the case.

Taxes is not the key, it does nothing but HURT America.

So what sacrifice are you willing to make to solve the energy crisis? I'm willing to pay higher gas taxes. Are you?

I'm willing to pay higher gas taxes. Are you?

No.

So........Arnold, how far do you comute every day? You love to burn jet fuel but you don't want to get it from your own back yard.

Round trip from LA to the capital has to be over an hour. A Gulfstream burns about 400 gal per hour times 5 days a week. That is getting close to 2500 gals. That would last me about two years in my pickup.

You are a two faced SOB along with algore.

I'm willing to pay higher gas taxes. Are you?

Just take a look at our bridges, roads, mass transit, and one can clearly see the gas taxes are not being productive to the betterment of society.

Government needs to step in and regulate with a heavy hand, so much so that those current owner investors get out of the business.

"I'm willing to pay higher gas taxes. Are you?

No."

Then you are part of the problem. You want other people to make sacrifices to fill your gas tank.

So what sacrifice are you willing to make to solve the energy crisis? I'm willing to pay higher gas taxes. Are you?

Posted by nullifidian

How is that going to solve the energy crisis?

Just take a look at our bridges, roads, mass transit, and one can clearly see the gas taxes are not being productive to the betterment of society.

Posted by moneywar

The gas tax is going into the general fund and is not being used to keep our roads in great shape. Using the gas tax to fund mass transit is totaly against what the gas tax was meant for. It was to build and maintain our highways.

When Bush guarantees that all oil drilled off our shores will stay here for U.S. consumers and not dumped into the worldwide common oil market maybe --
Posted by CalifChris at 2008-06-19 03:16 PM | Reply

Chris,

Domestic oil stays in the US, with the exception of Alaska: Japan is closer than Seattle, so it's more efficient to send it there.

But even that does not matter where it comes from. Oil is a global commodity, with a global price

Funny, the Republican governor of Florida said "Yes! Drill off our shores " and California's Republican governor said "No way."

The Republican govenor of California isn't on McSames VP shortlist. If McSame came out in favor of beheading Cuban exiles and having sex with flamingos, Crist would drop his drawers and grab a machete.

"The gas tax is going into the general fund and is not being used to keep our roads in great shape. Using the gas tax to fund mass transit is totaly against what the gas tax was meant for. It was to build and maintain our highways."

Bullshit. The majority of gas tax revenues is spent on roads, as intended. The money spent on public transit actually benefits those who don't use public transit, since it reduces congestion. So fuck off, dumbshit.

Take Schwarzenegger's hummer away. What a MORON! Californian's should vote on the drilling. They pay for gas too!

There's already drilling going on in Californeeeuh. The Lakers got drilled by the Eastern Conference champs. Despite the predictions of the DR's biggest dumbshit.

Does Schwarzenegger still rocket around California in a Hummer? If he does I'll listen to him on this subject when he converts it to a pedal car.

Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch

hey dumb fuck.. keep up with the times.. he traded it for a prius.

Arnold is a good governor. I have never voted for a Republican in any election. But I came closer than I ever have when Arnie was up for re-election. In the end I chose not to vote for anyone. (I just didn't have it in me to vote for a GOPher, even one who genuinely seems to be fighting for the environment like Arnie has been.)

So........Arnold, how far do you comute every day? You love to burn jet fuel but you don't want to get it from your own back yard.

Round trip from LA to the capital has to be over an hour. A Gulfstream burns about 400 gal per hour times 5 days a week. That is getting close to 2500 gals. That would last me about two years in my pickup.

You are a two faced SOB along with algore.

Posted by Sniper

and you are cunt.. so what the problem?

Being from canaduh who gives a crap what you say about US drilling ng3?

Sniper notice how the dr left refuses to discuss an issue, especially when they can talk in cliches and throw curses without any thoughtful input?

Here's one dudes, 82% of Americans SUPPORT offshore drilling? Care to dispute that FACT????????????????

I bet 40 years ago when Arnie left Austria they were more efficient and conserved fuel more than we do today.

Here's one dudes, 82% of Americans SUPPORT offshore drilling? Care to dispute that FACT????????????????

Posted by DavetheWave


I wouldn't dispute that at all. 90% of all crackheads are in favor of increasing the crack supply as well.

...and they also don't give a shit about the consequences.

Arnie does not still own his Hummer. He has six or seven and that includes one or two wild customs.

Most Americans are dumb fucks. A majority voted for Bush in 2004. Care to dispute that FACT????????????

"Most Americans are dumb fucks." Yeah, so you're surew aS HELL ABOUT THE nAME, BUT UNSUREW ABOUT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS?

...have another beer!!!!

"Here's one dudes, 82% of Americans SUPPORT offshore drilling? "

And 99% of that 82% don't live near the coast and aren't willing to make any sacrifices themselves, but just want to continue gas-guzzling as usual. And get a gas tax "suspension"--and what politician wouldn't cave into demands it be made permanent--on top of it!

The sheer idiocy is amazing.

Those of us old enough to remember the '69 Santa Barbara spill say, "No fucking way.".

C'mon Morris, I'm sure the oil companies are using the billions they made in profits to shore up the fleet and increase safety.

" but just want to continue gas-guzzling as usual. "

As stated before, but the facts you just can't escape...

Gasoline consumption has dropped dramatically in every stated but Florida, California, and Alabama.
Look up california....
tonto.eia.doe.gov
Look up Florida.....
tonto.eia.doe.gov

As has been pointed out, in studies, I have posted the richer you are the less likely you are to decrease oil usage. Oil cosumption is porportional to income. Your arguement is protecting the rich, and sacrificing the poor, which is hardly your typical stance....

"Your arguement is protecting the rich, and sacrificing the poor, which is hardly your typical stance...."

I've explained to you several times why that is total horseshit.

Funny how McCain supporters are so forgetful. Coincidence?

But go ahead, and keep promoting the Bush/McCain energy plan. I love it, and so will Florida Democrats. lol

We are not going to Drill off of the California Coast, we are not going to drill off of Waikiki Beach, we are not going to Drill in the Grand Canyon, we are not going to do it so get over it......

There was a report from the Defense Department that if the drilling was completed today the cost of a barrel of Oil would be less than $1.00 of what is is today because of the drilling in ANWAR.....

This is a BOGUS argument that the Republicians are trying to float to make the American people believe that it is the Democrats who are responsible for this Gas crisis. For God sake you dumb fucks this is the Bush energy policy that we have been living with, an been doing so for the past 7 3/4 years.

GOD DAMN AMERICA WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!

Arnold is nearly out of term--good riddence.

He is an idealogue and can't change his mind to meet the needs of CA's..

Illegals are over running the state. Baby bonds for illegals.

No drilling

Big spending for the unions and special interests

Later gator--good bye!! Hasta la Vista Baby!

The 1969 Santa Barbara spill that brought about the moratorium in the first place was far worse than the Exon Valdez spill. The event is said to have marked the beginning of what was to later become the environmental movement. It killed almost every marine mammal for 35 miles. Dolphins. Otters. It took some native birds of the area over twenty years to return to pre-spill levels.

I know...some of you don't give a shit. That's precisely why you can't drill here anymore. Especially when the guys in charge of the drilling have little bon mots like this to offer up when they drop the ball.
"I don't like to call it a 'disaster,' because there has been no loss of human life. I am amazed at the publicity for the loss of a few birds."
--Fred L. Hartley, (then) president of Union Oil Co.

Ok when they drill for oil in water how in the hell do they keep that drill bit straight instead of bobbing all over the place like an erection?? Do they just ram it down the water till it hits the earth or what??

Larry Mohr

No new drilling off the coast of California sez Ahnold.

(And he's not talking about Maria)

43 producing leases is enuff!

Sound reasonable to Spud.

Bush and McSame disagree with Ahnie?

A legion of rightwingnuts turn up and try to say that drilling off of California's coast and ANWR etc will somehow effect the fundamentals here.

Global need fer oil goes up as production peaks. This alone inevitably leads to higher prices. Throw in the instability of the oil producing ME nations especially since the clusterfark knows as the Iraq War started and you get to where we are today.

If BushCo were serious about bringing down the price of oil they would dip into the strategic petroleum reserve and put more oil on the maket in an attempt to cool prices off.

But they, of course, luff the high prices, which is to say, their pals at Big Oil around the globe appreciate it.

Ergo they see this juncture with people worrying over the future price of oil as being a great time to lean on folks to see increased drilling and production.

Once again: Crisis = Opportunity.

Disaster Capitalism in action.

Idiots.

Be Well.

SPUD

I just read the other day that oil companies pay their royalty debt to the U.S. in oil, not money.

To satisfy the debt they replenish the Strategic Reserves, (and not always with the highest quality of crude.)

It makes me wonder who really makes the decision to release oil from the Strategic Reserves . . . Bush or the oil companies, since it uses up their royalty debt and they get nothing in return except lower prices at the pump.

What's your opinion?

Sorry, I should have posted my source:

Per Wiki:

Approximately 60% of the crude oil in the reserve is the less desirable sour (high sulfur content) variety. The oil delivered to the reserve is "royalty-in-kind" oil--royalties owed to the U.S. government by operators who acquire leases on the federally owned Outer Continental Shelf in the Gulf of Mexico. These royalties were previously collected as cash, but in 1998 the government began testing the effectiveness of collecting royalties "in kind" - or in other words, acquiring the crude oil itself. This mechanism was adopted when refilling the SPR began, and once filling is completed, revenues from the sale of future royalties will be paid into the Federal treasury.

"I wouldn't dispute that at all. 90% of all crackheads are in favor of increasing the crack supply as well.
...and they also don't give a shit about the consequences."

"Most Americans are dumb fucks."

"I'm willing to pay higher gas taxes. Are you?"

" and you are cunt.. so what the problem?"

"For God sake you dumb fucks this is the Bush energy policy that we have been living with, an been doing so for the past 7 3/4 years.GOD DAMN AMERICA WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!



The dr left PROVING THEIR STUPIDITY DAILY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!

If he does I'll listen to him on this subject when he converts it to a pedal car.

Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch


I doubt Arnold is concerned about what you think.

Hey righties,

Less than 25% of the land currently under lease to oil companies for drilling is actually having any drilling done on it.

How is opening more land for drilling leases going to increase supply if they already cannot drill on 75% of the existing land leases due to lack of equipment?

it doesn't matter if tax cuts lead to increased tax revenues. The purpose of a tax increase is to punish achievement and to assuage the jealousy of the non-achievers. Democrats have raised this to an art form.

hey dumb fuck.. keep up with the times.. he traded it for a prius.

Posted by Legio

So....... did he trade his Learjet for a Piper Cub?

"How is opening more land for drilling leases going to increase supply if they already cannot drill on 75% of the existing land leases due to lack of equipment?"

Posted by 726


You mean NONE of that 75% is currently under exploration, or has already been found to not be worth drilling on? It's ALL not being drilled "due to lack of equipment?"

Link please.


it doesn't matter if tax cuts lead to increased tax revenues. The purpose of a tax increase is to punish achievement and to assuage the jealousy of the non-achievers. Democrats have raised this to an art form.

Posted by kc101

Nice try Chimptard.

Economists agree that cutting taxes reduces revenue
No reputable economist, liberal or conservative, has ever shown that tax cuts pay for themselves, and economists are virtually unanimous in concluding that tax cuts reduce revenue. This consensus holds even among economists who have served at high levels in the Bush Administration.

For example, N. Gregory Mankiw, chairman of the President's Council of Economic Advisers during the President Bush's first term, wrote in his popular introductory economics textbook that there is "no credible evidence" that tax cuts pay for themselves, and that an economist who makes such a claim is a "snake oil salesman who is trying to sell a miracle cure." [12]


Supply-Side Theory Has Failed Before

TABLE 3: Comparing the 1980s and 1990s

Avg. real per capita economic growth Avg. real per capita income-tax growth
1979-1990 2.0%
0.2%

1990-2000 2.0%
4.2%

Sources: Bureau of Economic Analysis, OMB Historical Tables
In 1981, Congress approved major supply-side tax cuts that featured large reductions in marginal income-tax rates. In 1990 and 1993, by contrast, Congress raised marginal income-tax rates on the well off. Analysts thus can compare two decades with sharply contrasting tax policies.

There was no discernable difference in average economic growth rates between the two decades.
Even though rates of economic growth were virtually identical during these two decades, the growth in real income-tax revenue and total revenue was far higher in the 1990s (when taxes were increased) than in the 1980s (when taxes were sharply reduced).
The international evidence supports a similar conclusion. Based on a review of that evidence, Brookings Institution economists William Gale and Peter Orszag have concluded that "cross-country studies find very small long-term effects of taxes on growth in developed countries."[13] Many studies find no effect whatever.

These results confirm common sense: large tax cuts result in reductions in revenue, tax increases result in increases in revenue, and the general effect of tax cuts on economic growth (beyond the temporary stimulus effects during an economic slump) tends to be slight, especially if the tax cuts are deficit-financed.


www.cbpp.org

California does not want to be part of the solution they have the toughest enviromental laws in the country. Good for them I agree stop burning fuel period, that means power,cars everything. Let's see if California is serious about enviromental wacko laws put up or shut up. That means quit driving now turn off the lights stick a bone through your nose and live in a cave.

The answer is simple, outlaw all cars and power plants in california and the need for oil will be gone. It's a hell of a way to go green but california with Al Gores help is up to the task. BTW MR Green himself used 10% more electrical power this year over last year, wow what an example along with Arnold spinning around in his hummer.

Ataxpayer-
I agree with the gist of your argument. We should ignore renewable resources. When gas is $10.00 a gallon, it'll be worthwhile for oil companies to pry the last bits out of the ground in the US and sell it on the global market for profit, and if that doesn't work, well we've got some permanent bases in Iraq...

I wouldn't dispute that at all. 90% of all crackheads are in favor of increasing the crack supply as well.

---rastacyborg------

Exactly and very well put, I might add.

"it doesn't matter if tax cuts lead to increased tax revenues."

Posted by kc101

Nice try Chimptard.

Economists agree that cutting taxes reduces revenue

Posted by reinheitsgebot
Dyslexia takes its toll.

I wouldn't dispute that at all. 90% of all crackheads are in favor of increasing the crack supply as well.

Well there is the answer just design all cars and power plants to run on crack. If you had a design that would run on bullsh!t california would be the land of plenty as Al Gore has the market cornered on that.

You mean NONE of that 75% is currently under exploration, or has already been found to not be worth drilling on? It's ALL not being drilled "due to lack of equipment?"

Link please.

Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE


www.wilderness.org

www.iht.com

www.freerepublic.com

www.sfgate.com

Lifting the federal ban on offshore and other types of oil and natural gas drilling would likely place greater strains on an industry already struggling with shortages of equipment and workers.

Because of record oil prices, exploration and production companies are trying to find new sources of hydrocarbons at a frenetic pace, pushing the supply of rigs, engineers and other personnel and equipment to the limit.

"Supply-Side Theory Has Failed Before"

Don't worry, it'll fail again, Americans have short memories.

Less than 25% of the land currently under lease to oil companies for drilling is actually having any drilling done on it.

How is opening more land for drilling leases going to increase supply if they already cannot drill on 75% of the existing land leases due to lack of equipment?

Posted by 726

It isn't equipment, there isn't any oil there. They have to get the lease before they can do the survey. Why would you drill in land that you know dosen't have any oil under it?

By the way, do you know who gets the money for the lease?

Those of us old enough to remember the '69 Santa Barbara spill say, "No fucking way.".

Posted by morris

I guess the beaches there won't be able to be used for at least 1000 years. My god, we can't close down our beaches for that long.

How dare you Ahhhhnold!
Damed Democrats! Always getting in the way of the rethug greed machine!
Wait a minute...I thought Ahhnold was Republican?

726,

Originally, you claimed that 75% of leased lands were not being drilled on "due to lack of equipement."

Your links show that the shortages of equipment are primarily of the offshore variety, and also don't determine how much of that 75% is just surplus, as opposed to land being researched, or given up on.

You made it sound as if the oil industry just has a surplus of land, totaling 75% of all leased lands, because it's out of equipment/personnel.

Regardless, good argument against opening up too many more offshore sites.

This is very simple if our country wants to have domestic oil production then drill where the oil is period. An oil lease does not mean oil is at that specific location. Our country must decide to continue our lifestyle or quit burning fuel. If we do not need fuel quit driving, turn the lights off, shut down the power plants. Other sources of energy are great unfortunatly we need a short term plan and a long term plan. Not burning any fuel at all is a plan if that is what you want, I suspect california would be the first state to complain when the fuel runs out.

Those of us old enough to remember the '69 Santa Barbara spill say, "No fucking way.".

Posted by morris

Did you walk to the beach or drive your car ?

LIVE_OR_DIE

There is a shortage of equipment. I do not know if that accounts for the 75% of land currently under lease for oil and gas extraction. I would guess not completely. I do know from my oil and gas clients they are constantly struggling to drill all their leases due to a shortage of drill rigs.

But the point is that their are 44 million acres under lease of which operations are only on 11 million acres.

Some have categorized it as land lease hoarding on the part of oil and gas companies.

It isn't equipment, there isn't any oil there.

And you know that these 33 million acres have no oil under all of them just how?

Blowing smoke out of your ass?

Show me the links that show there is no oil under the 33 million aces that are not being currently drilled.

Show me the links that show there is no oil under the 33 million aces that are not being currently drilled.

Posted by 726

I guess you think they haven't explored their expensive leases. You need to come out where there is oil and take a look around to see what is happening.

They don't do their first exploration with a drill. They only drill in locations that their seismographs show potential.

I don't know what it costs to drill for oil but I'm sure it is more than drilling for water which is around $100 per foot. Take a wild guess how deep they drill on the land out west.

Show me the links that show there is no oil under the 33 million aces that are not being currently drilled.
Posted by 726

Sorry the link was stolen by China,Cuba and Vietnam, they promiss to give it back after extracting the oil.

The Oil companys have 68,000,000 acres of leases where they can drill. ANWAR is a Bogus argument, who much of the oil that we get from Alaska is going toward the American Public Now? I don't know but I know much to much is sold overseas.

To you Rednecks assholes in the Middle of this Country we are not going to let you fucks drill in San Francisco Bay, WE WILL AT ALL COST STOP YOU, BELIEVE IT!!!!

WE WILL AT ALL COST STOP YOU, BELIEVE IT!!!!

That's good to know. I'm buying stock in capital letters and exclamation marks.

To you Rednecks assholes in the Middle of this Country we are not going to let you fucks drill in San Francisco Bay, WE WILL AT ALL COST STOP YOU, BELIEVE IT!!!!

And then when that rally's over I'm going to another one to rant and rave about high gas prices!!!!!! YOU CAN'T FUCKING STOP ME, YOU STUPID FUCKING FUCKS!!!!!!!

celisary

To you Rednecks assholes in the Middle of this Country we are not going to let you fucks drill in San Francisco Bay, WE WILL AT ALL COST STOP YOU, BELIEVE IT!!!!


I live in Florida where China,Vietnam and Cuba are already looking in the Gulf of Mexico. If oil is located I think it should stay in Florida and San Francisco can run everything on AAA batteries, just pull them out of your dildos.

"China,Vietnam and Cuba "

With the exception of Cuba, how did those land leases end up in China, Vietnam et al hands??
Oh yes, the US government auctioned them off. Instead of really applying value to known/proven reserves, they auctioned off.....sad......

Looking for and digging up and refining more oil is not the answer, if you look at stats the main oil spike is expected to come within next 10-15years.....with that being said, it's time to get oil independent. Invest now in alternative fuels, specifically hydrogen based and once again the US can be at the scientific forefront, as well as economic forefront of these new energies/technologies. If not and decide to keep wasting time with oil, then sit back and enjoy the ride......

LM

With the exception of Cuba, how did those land leases end up in China, Vietnam et al hands??
Oh yes, the US government auctioned them off.


WTF are you talking about? The US has no authority to auction off drilling leases in Cuban territorial waters. Where in the world did you come up with this crazy notion?

No drilling, no piplines except for water no new power plants, no new refineries,no nuclear, no sonar for the Navy.

That is easy do not ship anything to The Peoples Republic California. Including their recent interest in Great Lakes water.

If they are the thriving economy they claim, let them prove it

If you live by stupidity than you need to survive with out help from the rest of us

My friend and I have solved the energy crisis. Call the repubs and oil companies on their bluff. Sell oil rights in Anwar, They pay 100 Million dollars for the rights. For whatever amount of acreage. They split all oil to the US Government and the american people. Not one drop goes overseas. They have 3 years to drill. If they don't drill they lose the rights and the rights go to someone else. The same with off shore. Each state builds one or two nukes and becomes responsible for the energy in their own state. Sell the excess to another state. Off shore drilling same rule applies, The oil companies would have 3 years to drill or lose the rights. It's a win win situation for our country.
Crisis Solved.

"The gas tax is going into the general fund and is not being used to keep our roads in great shape. Using the gas tax to fund mass transit is totaly against what the gas tax was meant for. It was to build and maintain our highways."

-Snippy-


Yeah, that works great here in TN. We have the best roads in the country, but are 48th in education. Now we build raods when we don't need them to keep all of that funding. Dumbass, uneducated rednecks combined with nice roads for lots of SUVs=Red State

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