wonderful

Interesting turn of events.

"Always questions authority and demand the truth!"

- Bill Hicks
October 31, 1993

Power to the people
Power to the people, right on!

Tonyeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

That's lame Bani.

Larry

"Way cool, Rogers!

Hang in there. If the AP and/or others do a story about this..... and if they spell your name correctly.... this could be just the advertising boon you need!

Until then, no mo' AP.

Posted by Corky at 2008-06-12

HA!

Told ya! They even spelled your name right. Rogers and the Ol' DR in the NYT...... next stop?

Drudge Retort, The Broadway Musical!!

That's lame Bani.

Larry

Posted by LarryMohr


cheap, too

Times reporter Saul Hansell writes

----

Should this be the proper pasting etiquette now?

"We are not trying to sue bloggers," Mr. Kennedy said. "That would be the rough equivalent of suing grandma and the kids for stealing music. That is not what we are trying to do."

Er, Gramma Cadenhead??

Well well well---

They were heavy handed and glad to see that they are re-thinking the policy.

This is great news Rcade--

I don't get it... what's the problem with posting the proper link to the article?

It was kind of easy to see this coming as I would assume the AP actually sat down and thought about the consequences that could flow from their bully tactics.

Should this be the proper pasting etiquette now?

I say the more credit given, the better.

Naming the reporter along with the media organization also serves another purpose: Reporters, like everybody else, google their names to see what's being said about them. If we give a reporter's linked story a thorough working-over on the Retort, it would be nice if the person saw the comments.

Er, Gramma Cadenhead?

If a consequence of this controversy is that people here start referring to me as "Gramma," I may have to sue AP.

So as an example, Joe Blow reports in todays Enquirere Post Examiner Times that .... bla, bla, bla, bla.

Sound esay enough.

Wow, the NYT picked this up, great!

I bet Matt Drudge doesn't have the balls to put this article in his page.

Enquirere Post Examiner Times Herald New Press

There, that is the complete name of the paper.

Er, Gramma Cadenhead?

If a consequence of this controversy is that people here start referring to me as "Gramma," I may have to sue AP.

Posted by rcade


FF!

"Wonder what the AP would say if the MLA citation style was used."

OMG!

I get headaches thinking about citations and reference pagse. Although I believe I always used the APA, American Psychological Association. Seems more appropriate for a nut like me.

Yes Grandpa Cadenhead. Did You Burma Shave today Grandpa Cadenhead??

Larry Mohr

AP still sucks.

So where will Matt Drudge get the money to pay for hustlers?

I'd say Matt Drudge sucks too, but that's redundant.

It's a good thing I to them on behalf of RCADE.

Thank you, thank you very much......

"There are millions of people sharing links to news articles on blogs, message boards and sites like Digg. If The A.P. has concerns that go all the way down to one or two sentences of quoting, they need to tell people what they think is legal and where the boundaries are."

Nice quote in the NYT, Rogers!

My chest has swelled with pride.

Thanks, Yav. As I was giving that interview, I was refereeing a dispute in which one of my sons reported that another had just flipped him off. It's very weird to be engaged in a free speech battle with one of the largest media organizations on Earth while I'm Mr. Momming around the house.

Ok I gotta ask Grandpa RCADE. Do You wear an Apron to cook in or Do You "shorts" it??

Larry

while I'm Mr. Momming around the house.

Too bad they didn't send a photographer. We'd all like to see you in that Hill is 44 pink apron.

-We'd all like to see you in that Hill is 44 pink apron.

You loaned Grammy Cadenhead your favorite apron?

Somebody just told me that Rush Limbaugh is discussing this today. Izzat true?

Wow....Rogers, you're going to be famous (or is that infamous?).

Either way, don't start wearing a one of those goofy looking 'press' hats.

So Rogers, has Bill O'Reilly called for an interview yet?

If you go, be sure to take plenty of falafels with ya.

RCADE is quoted and given a full paragraph in the NYT with his name in (((lights))))!

You know the old saying (paraphrased):
"Say whatever you want about me, just make sure you spell my name right."

But Rogers Cadenhead, the owner of the Drudge Retort and several other Web sites, said the issue goes far beyond one site. "There are millions of people sharing links to news articles on blogs, message boards and sites like Digg. If The A.P. has concerns that go all the way down to one or two sentences of quoting, they need to tell people what they think is legal and where the boundaries are."

Rush talking about the Retort?

Golly gee, Rogers, you'll be famous.

I had one of the 7 stories yanked down. Guess I'll save your email where you told me about it, Rcade, now that you're going to be famous. (grin) This little tiff with AP could end up setting some sort of legal precedent -- at least in copyright law. Interesting and fun -- as long as it doesn't cost any money in legal fees. I think the owners of all the blogs and websites who would be affected by AP's monopoly should bring a class action suit against AP. AP is literally trying to OWN all the news.

What I don't still can't understand is how AP can claim their ownership of a quote given by anyone else. If the quote is just put out there how can AP claim ownership unless it was in the context of a specific one-on-one interview with an AP reporter. AP is way overstepping its boundaries in alledging copywrite ownership. imho.

AP will eat this for awhile longer as Roger gets his 5 minutes more in Wikipedia in AP's entry therein soon enough:>)

I would assume there are exclusivity agreements when conducting an interview with someone. If the quote was from a public appearance by whoever then I would agree with you.

should bring a class action suit against AP

Nothing like years of litigation and millions in fees for the lawyers to get a free 30 day trial subscription...

IMO this ranks 2nd to rCade's televised interview (in which he looks like an ex-con with a bad shave) with Katie Colic on the Pope domain. She was all a twit-ter when he demanded a miter in exchange for the url. Of course he left out the part about wanting to wear it in the annual Gay Pride Parade. Discretion being the better part of something or other.

IMO this ranks 2nd to rCade's televised interview

Ha! I found it on Youtube!

Ha! I found it on Youtube!

Posted by YAV

No doubt another example of shameless self promotion.

Why worry about what AP thinks about anything? There are many other national and international news agencies that would love to be cited.

I think RCADE would look more distinguished if He got rid of those 1950's style of glasses for a more modern look but that's just Me. He would look more sophisticated and less Nerdy.

Larry Mohr

Ha! I found it on Youtube!

Posted by YAV


Thanks for the tip!

That was just outstanding!

"Nerds: Who They Are and Why We Need More of Them (Hardcover)
by David Anderegg"

Wow, sounds like a great book!

Although I prefer the word geek to nerd. (Not that I am either, I wish).

I believe Geek's are those folks who work in circuses carnies and the like.

Larry

"The Retort's a hobby that got out of hand,"

Don't you just hate it when that happens?

"The Retort's a hobby that got out of hand,"

Don't you just hate it when that happens?

Posted by Zatoichi

ff


"what is the sound of one hand clapping?"

Told ya! They even spelled your name right. Rogers and the Ol' DR in the NYT...... next stop?

Drudge Retort, The Broadway Musical!!

Posted by Corky

I'll do the score. Who wants the 'book'?

Thanks for saving the free world, Rogers! LOL

The Retort's a hobby that got out of hand

----

Just an excuse for a server upgrade.

"what is the sound of one hand clapping?"



Posted by Bani at 2008-06-16 03:01 PM


It is commonly known as a "bani".

the AP is jkackassed stupid. they whine about mr.cadenhead's ingenuity when they themselves have much greater resources and can do the exact same (but ore efficently) thing as him.

ever link to the Ap site off of the drudge report? woefully bad.

i love this site. keep up the good work.

Rogers you made the drudge report! I almost blew wheatabix out my nose onto my crackberry!

After a year of retorts this is the first time I actually ever googled Rogers.
I never realized Rcade was an honest to goodness celebrity with a Wiki page and everything!

Now the NYT!

Rogers is sorta like our very own Brad Pitt......sorta...

Damn, now there's going to be like a billion new members, which is good for R, but the comments are going to fill up like crazy. If you don't get to comment on a thread within the first hour or so, there will be too much to wade through.

Damn, now there's going to be like a billion new members, which is good for R, but the comments are going to fill up like crazy. If you don't get to comment on a thread within the first hour or so, there will be too much to wade through.

Posted by TFDNihilist


oh well, maybe yahoo will make an offer Rcade won't refuse:>)

mmm...

redacted

sorta.

actually a tech crunch article posted on the wash post website.

The Government tries to keep us from information, now the "Press" is trying to keep us from sharing information. The end is nigh, regardless who wins the election.

What publicity. It's surprising that particpation on this blog has not peaked as a consequence. How can this "blip" be exploited.

Think of the notoriety. Of all of the blogs on all of the ... the Drudge Retort was chosen.

The length of the quotes seems to render them insignificant within the concept of fair use, especially compared to the verbatim texts of articles that have been posted. Was there any unifying factor to the items cited by AP?

Exploiting the opportunity to publicize the blog would seem to merit focus.

What publicity. It's surprising that particpation on this blog has not peaked as a consequence. How can this "blip" be exploited.

Actually blog traffic doubled between the 15th and th 16th of this month. Today's on track to be in alignment with yesterday's traffic.

congrats, rcade - one of my fellow bloggers has informed me that rush limbaugh has taken up your cause on his radio program yesterday.

you're moving up...

AP rethinks?

Doesn't that imply that there was thinking involved prior to this decision?

Spud keeds.

Okay, Spud is now gonna lift his banination/ blog fatwah on them silly buggers over at the AP in light of this new-found saneness.

Nice to see the MSM give this place and our zany blog-god a bit of notice.

Noticed by Rush?

Blech. Free publicity is one thing but if that guy ever mentioned Spud by name then Spud would hafta take a long hot bleach bath to feel clean again.

Be Well.

/Not really here. Off to go see the new Hulk flick.
//Jack Kirby and Stan Lee share writing cred on it.
///That's a good sign right there.
////Also Norton? Downey Jr? Hurt? Tyler? Sweeeeet cast!

oh please, spuds - i'm sure he orders taters with every meal!

rcade, sure if character can be found in a name - i've never heard of such a woman, but everybody's heard of rush, you must admit.

isn't npr that public radio? the one we all have to fund with our taxes whether we want to or not? the pbs of the radiowaves?

more people have heard of limbaugh than have heard of ANY or ALL of the radio casters on npr.

hmmmmm...wonder from where the money those state grants come?

at least limbaugh, et al., have made a way for themselves without relying on public welfare monies.

"at least limbaugh, et al., have made a way for themselves without relying on public welfare monies."

Don't kid yourself. Leasing public airwaves at below-market rates is corporate welfare.

Oh My GOD! I have such a huge erection after seeing Rogers Cadenhead's name in the N Y Times! Where the hell is Horseonovich? Shouldn't he be here to celebrate this huge moment in Cadentime?

Oh My GOD! I have such a huge erection after seeing Rogers Cadenhead's name in the N Y Times!

Thank you for sharing that.

ok so i take it the boycott of AP is still on then?

Limbaugh mentioned this AP bruhaha and was on the side of the bloggers--of course.


murpy

for a moment, of course...

Oh My GOD! I have such a huge erection after seeing Rogers Cadenhead's name in the N Y Times!
Posted by New York Jew

That should get you a "newsworthy" flag.

for a moment, too...

That's gracious, but I'm not much of a judge....

michelle malkin has taken up the mantle here - where are the leftista radio hosts in this?

::chirp::

the washington post has called for a boycott of ap.

::chirp::

conservatives put the rubber to the road in all matters. not some. all.

think about it, arcade.

conservatives put the rubber to the road in all matters.

So the new record breaking debt was a planned thing. Is that what you're telling us, Nanc?

from Spud:
/Not really here. Off to go see the new Hulk flick.
//Jack Kirby and Stan Lee share writing cred on it.
///That's a good sign right there.
////Also Norton? Downey Jr? Hurt? Tyler? Sweeeeet cast!


Kirby and Lee share "creative/Creation credit" Kirby has been dead for years. Was good movie though. WAY bettter than Ange Lee's

Thanks. But I generally start every morning by giving myself a thorough googling.

We're famous! At least for a couple days.

Your gerbil just took an interesting skip, RCade.

The front page went through the "way-back" machine.

Threads disappeared, including recent comments. When the front page refreshed, it was back to the date when you posted the "gerbil died."

Very interesting!

All's back to "normal" now, I see!

no alexandrite - do you think leftwing pundits would go to bat for a rightwing blog?

Your gerbil just took an interesting skip, RCade.

Yep. That was very weird.

"In the future everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes." - Andy Warhol

"Fame is a bee. / It has a song / It has a sting / Ah, too, it has a wing." - Emily Dickinson

"In the future we'll all have 15 minutes of fame and 15 minutes of healthcare." - Nicole Hollander

"Don't confuse fame with success. Madonna is one; Helen Keller is the other." - Erma Bombeck

"I won't be happy till I'm as famous as God. -"Madonna

"Life is a warfare and a stranger's sojourn, and after fame is oblivion." - Marcus Aurelius

"Looking at the proliferation of personal web pages on the net, it looks like very soon everyone on earth will have 15 Megabytes of fame."
-M. G. Siriam

"He lives in fame that died in virtue's cause."
- William Shakespeare

"The highest form of vanity is love of fame."
George Santayana

"Fame is like a shaved pig with a greased tail, and it is only after it has slipped through the hands of some thousands, that some fellow, by mere chance, holds on to it!" - Davy Crockett


Just tryin' to keep your head on straight, Rogers. ;^)

Don't forget the ubiquitous:

"We're more popular than Jesus now"
- John Lennon

"pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall"

proverbs 16:18

As you grow in spirituality, your whole life must improve.

--Harold Klemp