This is the kind of leadership this nation has been sorely lacking with the corporate-driven GOP at the helm for far too long. "Americans helping Americans" shouldn't be a bumper sticker slogan, it should be a day-to-day reality in which we all take part in our own individual ways.

This is just another example of the small things that set the Obama campaign apart from the majority of the others. As I've said time and time again, it isn't about him, its about us and the contributions all of us can make to improve this nation that we love so dearly. Get involved, be involved, stay involved at whatever level you can. It matters deeply.

I'm touched by how much pandering a politician will do to get elected.

You're an asshole Ray. What have YOU done to help people victimized by the recent weather? I've donated clothing to victims of a tornado which hit less than 2 miles from where I live. Providing links so that people looking to donate to Obama can instead donate to the Red Cross Victim's Relief Fund isn't pandering, its humanitarianism, something you obviously know next to nothing about since the only person you care about is YOU!

Oh now you want to get into name calling. Any child can do that.

I have no issue with benevolence. When a politician does it in election season, it's the equivalent of baby kissing. But you are so childishly naive, you can't see it.

You are so thick, so I have to be more direct. I wasn't criticizing his charitable act. I said he was PANDERING. This is election season. You completely went off the track.

In election season, nothing a politician does or says is credible. It's not till they get in office do you find they are ruthless white collar criminals. Obama is no exception. It's the nature of politics.

I'm done with you. This nation is fucked anyway.

It certainly is if its citizens are as cynical and coldhearted as you. Praytell how can one be pandering when the bottomline is that people in need will receive help they otherwise wouldn't?

Not everything and everyone is as callous and jaded as you are Ray. You are the antithesis of optimism. No one can do anything without selfish motives attached. Have you noticed that NO ONE in the MSM has reported this story even though its been going on for days?

Wouldn't the campaign beg for press attention if your analysis was correct? The facts dispute your cynicism as they often do. Sometimes people do things because they see a need that others have without regard for their own desires. Obama isn't remotely like other politicians, and if you'd bother to read stories written during his decade-long ascension, you might glean the actual concern he's always shown toward what's best for those in need outside of his own ambitions. Ignorance isn't blind Ray, only those who choose to remain so are.

Obama is the quintissential pandering politician.

Just look at all the people he threw under the bus for political expediency.

Obama is no better--in fact, he is worse.

Obama is no better--in fact, he is worse.

What a joke, look who's talking?

What's the GOP done for the Iowa victims, Murphy? Blame Obama for the rain?

"I am amazed that this story is not getting more attention in both the blogoshere and the media. When is the last time a Presidential Campaign devoted its resources to a relief effort of this kind? What a beautiful way to put the "Peolpe Power" of the Obama supporters to work."

a potential future post President Saint Jimmy for sure...meanwhile Iran needs to be nuked for moving their monies to Asian the other day says Aipac!

"Obama is the quintissential pandering politician."

So this is pandering, but McFlipflop's braindead gasoline tax suspension isn't? Almost every economist in the country said it was idiotic, and it is, just like you, Murphy.

Obama isn't remotely like other politicians,

They never learn. There's a sucker born ever second during election season.

"Obama isn't remotely like other politicians,"

That kind of hyperbole isn't doing Obama any favors.

He's not telling you what to do.

He can't until he's elected. This is the presidency for chris sakes. He's been kissing the Israeli's asses. That means more war to come. He'll inherit a government that is hopelessly bankrupt. He comes from the same school of economics as his predecessors. That means tax, regulate, spend and borrow until he runs what remains of our fragile economy into the ground. God help us all!

Oh, and don't take that as an endorsement for McCain. They both scare the hell out of me.

Obama is not pandering and his record after Katrina is clear.

* Sept. 2, 2005: Obama holds press conference urging Illinoisans to contribute to the Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.
* Sept. 5, 2005: Obama goes to Houston to visit evacuees with Presidents Clinton and Bush.
* Sept. 7, 2005: Obama introduces bill to create a national emergency family locator system
* Sept. 8, 2005: Obama introduces bill to create a National Emergency Volunteers Corps.
* Sept. 8, 2005: Obama co-sponsors the Katrina Emergency Relief Act of 2005 introduced by Senator Harry Reid
* Sept. 8, 2005: Obama co-sponsors the Hurricane Katrina Bankruptcy Relief and Community Protection Act of 2005 introduced by Senator Russ Feingold
* Sept. 12, 2005: Obama introduces legislation requiring states to create an emergency evacuation plan for society's most vulnerable
* Sept. 15, 2005: Obama issues public response to President Bush's speech about Gulf Coast rebuilding.
* Sept. 21, 2005: Obama co-sponsors bill to establish a Katrina commission to investigate response to the disaster introduced by Hillary Clinton
* Sept. 21, 2005: Obama appears on NPR to discuss the role of poverty in Hurricane Katrina.
* Sept. 22, 2005: Obama and Coburn's Hurricane Katrina financial oversight bill unanimously passes Senate committee.
* Sept. 22, 2005: Obama's amendment requiring evacuation plans unanimously passes Senate committee.
* Sept. 28, 2005: Obama and Coburn issue statement about the need for a Chief Financial Officer to oversee the financial mismanagement and suspicious contracts occurring in the reconstruction process
* Sept. 29, 2005: Obama and Coburn investigate possible FEMA refusal of free cruise ship offer
* Oct. 6, 2005: Obama and Coburn issue statement on FEMA Decision to re-bid Katrina contracts
* Oct. 6, 2005: Obama co-sponsors Gulf Coast Infrastructure Redevelopment and Recovery Act of 2005.
* Oct. 21, 2005: Obama releases statement decrying the extension of FEMA director, Michael "Brownie" Brown's contract. Obama calls Brown's contract extension, "unconscionable."
* Nov. 17, 2005: Obama and Coburn introduce legislation asking FEMA to immediately re-bid all Katrina reconstruction contracts.
* Feb. 1, 2006: Obama gives Senate floor speech on his legislation to help children affected by Hurricane Katrina
* Feb. 2, 2006: Obama introduces legislation to help low-income children affected by Hurricane Katrina

I said he was PANDERING.
Posted by Ray

I hope so, this is just the kind of pandering we need.

But I guess Obama isn't smart enough to let underlings do all his work. That way, when things go wrong, he can always blame it on them. That's Bush's MO.

I've said it before...

That's fine with me. That basically defines why I vote Dem when the only choice is the 2 major parties.

When Pubs pander they kill brown people or throw folks in jail...
When Dems pander they feed babies or provide healthcare...

Which do you prefer?

Posted by TFDNihilist at 2008-06-13

That's fine with me. That basically defines why I vote Dem when the only choice is the 2 major parties.

When Pubs pander they kill brown people or throw folks in jail...
When Dems pander they feed babies or provide healthcare...

Which do you prefer?

Posted by TFDNihilist at 2008-06-13


I'm gonna use that, because it sums up everything perfectly.

When Pubs pander they kill brown people or throw folks in jail...
When Dems pander they feed babies or provide healthcare...

When Pubs pander they make sure that money goes to those who need it the least, (ie. the investor class)...

When Dems pander at the least they attempt to help those who truly need help the most (ie. the dispossessed and those ripped off by big business ((See Katrina insurance denials))...

When Pubs pander they confiscate the guns of those scary brown people...

When Dems pander they try to reboot the lives of those suffering due to the lack of governmental planning, which many poorer people depend upon as their protection...

And the list could go on and on and on and on....

What Barack Obama hasn't used his power as a senator to bring governmental relief?


Well maybe we should just let him stay in the private sector and do his good deeds that way it won't cost the rest of us any tax money.


Bee Swell

Good PR stunt. Although I wonder where was Barack Obama at during Katrina? Hanging with Bill Ayres and Reverend Wright.

Hell we wouldn't have needed FEMA if he had been there. Thanks Obama for letting the people of New Orleans down. I guess Obama doesn't give a damn about black people.

Bee Swell

Put down the crackpipe and READ junkie! You asked where Obama was during Katrina? Did you bother to read the 12.53am post to find out what he was doing?

What were YOU doing during Katrina? Sitting on your ass eating popcorn watching people suffer? Moron....

Are you absolutely sure you don't get any of your monies from US taxpayers, too ~ crackie?:>)

What were YOU doing during Katrina? Sitting on your ass eating popcorn watching people suffer? Moron....

Posted by tonyroma at 2008-06-15 09:27 AM

It's enough I have to suffer with this asshole pontificating on how his god is going to lead his people out of the Promised Land. Like all control freaks, Tony was polite when he thought he was getting his way. The mask came off.

Then all the congregation raised a loud cry; and the people wept that night.
And all the people of Israel murmured against Moses and Aaron; the whole congregation said to them, "Would that we had died in the land of Egypt! Or would that we had died in this wilderness!
Why does the LORD bring us into this land, to fall by the sword? Our wives and our little ones will become a prey; would it not be better for us to go back to Egypt?"
And they said to one another, "Let us choose a captain, and go back to Egypt." (Num. 14:1-4)

Ray...

Now you've descended into ridiculous bullshit because your egocentric mind can't wrap its consciousness around the fact that some people aren't narcissistic whores like yourself, only looking for their next score. Until the day comes that Obama shows 1 millionth of the self-centeredness you show daily, then and only then will I worry about him.

Is it an illness you're suffering from that makes you so blindly and completely oblivious to the humanity of people unlike yourself? Or has your own inadequacies led you to condemn anyone that puts the needs of the less advantaged on par with many of their own?

"Is it an illness you're suffering from that makes you so blindly and completely oblivious to the humanity of people unlike yourself? "


More likely it's just from reading too much rightwing trash like Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" and "The Virtue of Selfishness".

if helping victims of the flood is pandering
then pander some more

we know mcracist doesn't pander

hes a maverick
just like what they said about david duke

maybe just like david duke, maverick mcracist will show up in iran after his loss in november, to deny the holocaust as well.

Thank God Ray ain't My Father. Boy now THAT would suck mightily.

Larry Mohr

I have no issue with benevolence. When a politician does it in election season, it's the equivalent of baby kissing

And if McSame had done it, you would be lauding his benevolence. But of course Gampy does not use the computers or internets.

BTW, when is it not election season for a politician?

And if McSame had done it, you would be lauding his benevolence. But of course Gampy does not use the computers or internets.

BTW, when is it not election season for a politician?

Posted by 726



why didn't McCain do it? His wife has lots more money, too, to help out with...

maybe he is down there? All I know is Bush is MIA as usual...which is okay since I was there when Bush was in NYC after 911 & look how that all turn out for the mideast!

Don't want to start another invasion in Iran after Bush visits Iowa & thinks "I" is a symbol from God or something to nuke Iran!

Until the day comes that Obama shows 1 millionth of the self-centeredness you show daily, then and only then will I worry about him.

Our only hope that Obama doesn't turn the US into another Zimbabwe is that his term is limited to 8 years. If he makes himself president for life, I'm getting out.

"Our only hope that Obama doesn't turn the US into another Zimbabwe is that his term is limited to 8 years. If he makes himself president for life, I'm getting out.

Posted by Ray"

lol. Ray breaks the record for paranoid flags.

More likely it's just from reading too much rightwing trash like Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" and "The Virtue of Selfishness".

Posted by nullifidian

This jerk thinks it's unselfish to be entitled to what I work hard for for no other reason than he thinks he deserves it. Talk about turning logic upside down.

Ray

Your son has accomplished some very impressive things.
I'm sure you're very proud of him.

Chris

The IBM XT personal computer came out when he was 7. I bought one and we learned programming together. He went way beyond my expectations.

Thanks Chris.

I doubt we would hear Obama's grandmother saying about the flood victims of Iowa what Bush's mother Barbara Bush said about the Katrina refugees who came to stay in an arena in Texas:

"What I'm hearing, which is sort of scary, is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them."

- Barbara Bush (2005)

Amazing Son, Ray! Certainly wasn't in your genes...must be a reincarnation thang ~ like Mozart:>)

ps just teasing you...have any other kids in Wiki?

(I'll bet Ray's son secretly votes for Obama LOL)