RIP

"When he shall die, take him and cut him out in little stars and he will make the face of heaven so fine that all the world will be in love with night and pay no worship to the garish sun."

- William Shakespeare

RFK's election in 1968 would have brought great and much needed change to America. He truly cared about every American, rich and poor alike.

Obama reminds me a lot of RFK. Just his nomination has inspired millions of school aged kids. His election will reshape our image in the world back to a positive. The reactions so far from around the world regarding his nomination have been extremely positive.

Goodbye Bobby K

And I would have liked to have known you
But I was just a kid
Your candle burned out long before
Your legend ever did


My first political hero, gunned down like his brother John and his friend Martin, a tragic, ironic moment that began the summer which followed the Summer of Love.

For those of us who voted for RFK, this Country has not been the same since that awful night. God there was no chance Nixon would have won that election of 1968. The Country has maybe another opportunity to put itself in the right track, President Obama the Legacy lives......

Killed by a young muslim.

Sirhan was born in Jerusalem to Christian Palestinian parents and was raised in the Maronite Church. In his adult life however, he made several religious conversions, joining Baptist and Seventh-day Adventist churches, and dabbled in the occult. His family, which moved to the United States when Sirhan was 12, briefly lived in New York, and soon moved to California. He attended John Muir High School and Pasadena City College in Pasadena, California and was employed as a stable boy in 1965 at the Santa Anita Race Track in Arcadia, California.

Killed by a young muslim.

Posted by Sniper

Wrong. As usual. What's it like being an asshole?

Chances are, RFK was not killed by Sirhan. Sirhan was in front of Kennedy--Kennedy was shot point-blank from behind. Sirhan was probably brainwashed and used as a decoy. Most assassinations are done out of passion for a cause, and the perpetrators are proud of their accomplishment. Proud to sacrifice their lives for a cause. Not Sirhan. He says he doesn't remember. I believe him.

Posted by Sniper

Wrong. As usual. What's it like being an asshole?


It's the crowning achivement of Sniper's life. So much of it was spent as a boil on mankind's ass before a promotion to hemmroid. But he knew that as long as he remained shitty and stupid, he could move up in the rectal world.

Sirhan was probably brainwashed and used as a decoy.

Afghanistan banana stand

I remember the day quite well, even though it was 40 years ago. It was beyond sad, seeing all the good guys being picked off, and with them, our dreams.

I'll never believe that John's, Martin's and Bobby's deaths were three separate unrelated incidents. Paul Wellstone's too.

R.I.P. R.F.K. you would have been the greatest leader in American history , look what your party has become today , a bunch of girlie boys , being led around by directionless clowns . obama would'nt make a pimple on your arse , he has no character , class or honor , a regular worthless marxist liberal , there is no substance in his message , and "hope" is an empty cup . Nothing like good ole tangibles .he is not a uniter, he is just another color of clintonism .

Rightnut

There is no uniting to be done with shitheel republicans. They are only interseted in republicans--not America. The best is two countries. One for shitheels like you, and one for Americans. Hey--you can even have Bush for another four years, or take Bush lite with McCain. Whatever--just GTFO of America--you hate the country anyway, so it shouldn't be a big deal.

The best is two countries. One for shitheels like you, and one for Americans.

Why is it the only people on the DR who want to break up this great nation are liberals? I guess when the going gets tough, the cowards get going! No stomach to stick around and fix things.

Makes sense, though -- Lincoln was a Republican and did not want to see two countries.

you hate the country anyway, so it shouldn't be a big deal.

LOL. You are the one who wants to divide in two. That's loving it?

You are a bOoB

Why is it the only people on the DR who want to break up this great nation are liberals? I guess when the going gets tough, the cowards get going! No stomach to stick around and fix things.

Makes sense, though -- Lincoln was a Republican and did not want to see two countries.

Posted by goatman at 2008-06-05 11:00 PM | Reply | Flag

Yes, sure sounds like you are interested in fixing things!

Yes, sure sounds like you are interested in fixing things!

Why deflect from da bOoB's statement to me? Oh, because you have no better retort, that's why.

Sad

I don't deflect, I show the hypocrisy of your stupid idiotic posts.

You make such everyday and now just point out the stupidity of your idiocy.

LOL. You are the one who wants to divide in two. That's loving it?


You are a bOoB

Posted by goatman at 2008-06-05 11:02 PM


I love my legs too, but if they turned cancerous--I'd cut them off. Republicans are a cancerous growth on freedom and the American way.

I don't deflect

I talk about the idiocy of wanting tot divide the country. You talk about me. And you say you don't deflect.

LOL

You are as delusional as da bOoB. BTW, how much does he pay you to be his mouthpiece?

I love my legs too, but if they turned cancerous--I'd cut them off.

Not me. I'd treat the illness and try to cure them.

Lincoln would've hated you.

Moneywar is almost as big an asshole as you Goatman. You've earned his scorn all on your own, like you have everyone elses.

You've earned his scorn all on your own, like you have everyone elses.

Oh. When did you take this poll of everyone else? I never heard of it when you did.

Idiot

You've earned his scorn all on your own, like you have everyone elses.

Oh. When did you take this poll of everyone else? I never heard of it when you did.

Idiot

Posted by goatman at 2008-06-05 11:54 PM | Reply


I read other peoples posts. It isn't just Moneywar and me that think you are an asshole.

asshole

I read other peoples posts. It isn't just Moneywar and me that think you are an asshole.

So everyone (your word, not mine) has posted a retort that says I have earned their scorn.

Funny, I haven't seen even one of them Where and when were they posted. Of the hundreds of DR members, it seems I would have seen at least one.

idiot

That's two lies. Three strikes (lies) you're out. Why is the truth so difficult for you to speak?

liar, idiot, bOoB

Goatman

You are an asshole--everyone thinks so. Every single person you have ever met in your life thinks so. Facts are facts--you can't hide your assholiness. Enjoy. You earned it the old fashioned way.

asshole.

You know what I'm saying is true.

Goatman

You are an asshole--everyone thinks so. Every single person you have ever met in your life thinks so. Facts are facts--you can't hide your assholiness. Enjoy. You earned it the old fashioned way.

BuffaloBob

Bob, I met GOATMAN in person last year. He's a really nice person.

"You are an asshole--everyone thinks so."

You only speak for yourself, and definitely not for me.

Sirhan had long dealt with anger over Israel's creation in 1948, during which many Palestinians fled or were driven out. Sirhan supposedly believed he was deliberately betrayed by Kennedy's support for Israel in the June 1967 Six-Day War, which had begun exactly one year before the assassination.

This is not the way a christian would view RFK.

Call him what you want to but the facts are very clear.

D-Day




More important

Republicans are a cancerous growth on freedom and the American way.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob

You sir are a dumb shit.

For those of you who think RFK would have been the dem nomination think again. Humphrey already ad the nomination sewed up. It amazes me how everyone thinks he was some great man.

Dems are leading us down the road to socialism.

Wow so much fodder here....

"Obama reminds me a lot of RFK." by Americanunity

Yeah. The Hildebeast thinks so too. She is hoping they have a lot in common.

"Lincoln would've hated you." by goatman

Goat, you wouldn't have been fond of him either. After all, he was a Republican who started a war with someone that did not attack the United States and posed no military threat to the United States to impose a way of life upon them, ultimately occupying the defeated enemy for 100 years.

Then Hanoverfist reminds us that today is the anniversary of D-Day. A day when a Democrat president PRAYED on the radio. He then committed US forces to attack a country that had not attacked us and lost over 4,000 troops IN THE FIRST DAY! (What an example of incompetence!)

Where were today's democrats then? They would have probably impeached him for the prayer and berated him for the unacceptable loss of life. They would have demanded an immediate withdrawal / surrender. My how things have changed.

I'll second it. Goatman is an asshole. So is rightnut, Bushlovertwo and 084ever. Just sayin'.

Boy the intellectual dishonesty is quite aparent with You ehhhhh A_Citizen. Linoln didn't start the civil War. FDR never attacked anyone Germany and Japan attacked the United States. You are about as useless as they come.

Larry Mohr

Larry,

I concede that Japan attacked the US...when did Germany do it?

As far as the War Between the States goes, I believe your grasp of history is a little loose. The South left the Union and formed it's own nation before demanding the US withdrawal its forces from their soil and their harbors. When the US refused, the shooting started.

By your logic, What Bush should have done to avoid the allegation of "illegal war" was placed American military so close to Iraq as to provoke an attack, refuse to remove them and let Iraq hit us first. Then we could have conducted the war as a "defensive" war.

Vicki,

Why do you think I am an Ass?

Ah, the historically challenged not A very good Citizen.

Lincoln started the war? Didn't attack the United States? Ever heard of Ft. Sumpter? No threat? Ever heard of the 1st Battle of Bull Run (Manassas)?

Germany was attacking our shipping vessels pre pearl harbor also they formally declared war upon us December 11th 1941. Oh and Dubya did place troops near Iraq trying to provoke an attack. Him and Blair was suggesting painting an airplane with UN colors to try and provoke an attack.

Larry Mohr

Him and Blair was suggesting painting an airplane with UN colors to try and provoke an attack.

Say that out loud. It sounds like the script for Tonto on "The Lone Ranger"

Terrorist attacks are Criminal acts. They are NOT Acts of War. Please do try again A_Citizen. Oh and Iraq under Saddam Hussein was a SECULAR Country and NOT an Islamic nation so You lack a case there as well A_Citizen. Please do so ever try yet again for You know not what You speak about.

Larry Mohr

Thank you Mr. Spell Check.

"...an Independent country that was formed on December 20, 1860."

It was actually Feb. 8, 1861.

Oh, and we are talking about a de facto "independent country", not a de jure one since no other country ever formally recognized their independence.

This is great. We get to re-enact the Civil War. And you southern fucks will lose again. "The war between the states".....dude, stick to strumming your banjo.

It was actually the Wawuh of Nohthun Agreshun, Jo.

SanAntonio,

South Carlina left the Union on December 20, 1860. Either way, Ft. Sumter was occupied occupied by federal forces. Those forces were ordered to leave and refused.

Incidentally, what was required to be independent in 1860? Why don't you cite a little legal authority for that.

Larry,

Fine, Shouldn't have attacked Iraq. But may I garner that you would still be all in favor of an attack on the other Islamist nations since the islamists have declared war on us? Incidentally, See that you backed away from the attacking of shipping as a basis for war....wanna concede you are wrong...again....


Jomama,

"And you southern fucks will lose again."

yeah. If your standard is "might makes right". However, if we actually did fight the war today, I am confident that the Democrats would determine that withdrawal and surrender would be the appropriate course of action...especially if faced with losses comparable to First Manassas....

"Yankee Doodle wheeled about
and scampered off at full run'
such a race was never seen
as that one run at Bull Run!"

Carlina = Carolina

Sorry about that.

Ummmmm Nope A_Citizen because I could not find an international law that FDR broke with regards to those shipping vessels but keep on with Your delusions A_Citizen for they must keep You safe.

Larry Mohr

"South Carlina left the Union on December 20, 1860."

Yes I know, but you said the Confederacy was formed then. It was not.

"Ft. Sumter was occupied occupied by federal forces. Those forces were ordered to leave and refused."

By who's authority?

"Incidentally, what was required to be independent in 1860?"

There was no legal precedent either way at the time. The main criteria of whether or not you were an independent country seems to have been whether or not anyone recognized you as such. Hence the de facto vs. de jure issue.

Just another quick question... would you consider it justifiable for Cuba to order the US out of Guantanamo and then attack it for noncompliance?

Sanantonio,

Primary difference, there is a treaty between the Government of the United States and the government of Cuba to lease that base for a fixed period of time. There was no such agreement between the government of the United States and the State of South Carolina.

Larry -

Google "Neutrality Act". It wasn't international law...it was a law passed by Congress. The international part of the deal is if the ship has military material, it is a military target i.e. it is no longer civilian in nature.

"Primary difference, there is a treaty between the Government of the United States and the government of Cuba to lease that base for a fixed period of time."

Not exactly correct. The current government of Cuba does not recognize the lease as valid. Considering that Cuba was forced to include the lease in their constitution in 1901 under threat of force from occupying US troops, and then forced to reaffirm it in 1934 when Roosevelt sent a fleet of warships, one must question the legal basis for our being there.

SanAntonio,

There is no consistency with history. The same bargaining technique was used with the Indians - and I doubt that any of us realistically question the right to own property in the United States on that basis.

Legal theory in a vacuum: The lease may be void as a result of duress. In which case, we would need to leave. However, since I doubt the Feds have any intention of restoring Southern independence, repaying the people of the South that lost property monies owed as a result of the taking of that property under the 5th Amendment of the US Constitution, or returning the land to the Indians, I will not jump up and down and demand the US leave Cuba.

This thread should be bronzed as an example of how on R, even a memorial can devolve into a donneybrook over tangentially relevant historical facts, bouts of generalized name-calling, and trading of non-sequitors. Waiting for the crowning "Fuck you you fucking fuck." capper to rear its head.

should be "...on DR..."

Oh yeah, well.........Bush's fault.

Me thinks some 6600 americans giving their lives on the Norman coast 44 years ago today is a bit more important to remember.

Why is every so ga-ga about the kennedys

"Me thinks some 6600 americans giving their lives on the Norman coast 44 years ago today is a bit more important to remember."

Yeah, I remember that fateful day in 1964 when we invaded France. Boy, was de Gaulle surprised!

Why is every so ga-ga about the kennedys
Posted by yougothurt


Don't you know????!!! They are our AMERICAN ROYALTY, YOU RACIST!!!!???!!!!!

-sincerely,
guess who

Me thinks some 6600 americans giving their lives on the Norman coast 44 years ago today is a bit more important to remember.

Why is every so ga-ga about the kennedys

Posted by yougothurt at 2008-06-06 02:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

1964? As the Beatles were landing in America, I guess we were landing in Normandy. Who knew?

Apparently, my history books were written by the same people that taught law to Kuma.

Goatman

You are an asshole--everyone thinks so. Every single person you have ever met in your life thinks so. Facts are facts--you can't hide your assholiness. Enjoy. You earned it the old fashioned way.

asshole.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-06-06 12:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

Oh, I don't know. Goat is a fellow Sonar Tech. He can't be all that bad.

GOATMAN and I hung out when he visited family here.

Heck of a nice guy!!

"everyone thinks so"

What does this "everyone" think about you, BBBBB-Bob?

GOATMAN and I hung out when he visited family here.

Heck of a nice guy!!

Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2008-06-06 05:59 PM


I'm sure you can tell what kind of person he is by a short visit. I'm sure most brides on their wedding day would never describe their new husbands as assholes--until they've lived with them a while. Lot's of people described Ted Bundy as "quite charming".