mccain is a racist

very simply put

tar babies
gooks

he's one step from using the words fa**ot and ni**er

I guess he is a typical white person.

In some ways, yep.

No ShittyEric, he's far worse than your average "white person". He's against what MOST Americans believe in, want from our government or need. He's just another Republican shill for PNAC and The Heritage Foundation. We have no space for senile dumbasses like him. I'm sure your next comment will be about Robert KKK Byrd so let me just say this, Byrd is not running for POTUS.

I watched part of McCain's speech Tuesday evening and I was, to be totally honest, shocked at what I saw. He was walking onstage and it seemed, to me, that he was visibly trembling. He looked like an old, old man. Feeble. And THIS is what the GOP is pinning their collective hopes? I personally would hope that he holds together until November. He does NOT look well. And these frequent memory problems are not a good sign either.

"To which, McCain's aides accused Obama of negative campaigning, saying the Senator wasn't familiar with the specific votes and had always supported Senate investigations, just not commissions."

Using his voting record is "negative campaigning"????

I can't wait.

The man is going to snap. He's going to blow his top and I just hope that there are multiple cameras to record the tirade.

There isn't enough popcorn in all of Hollywood for this show.

Catch it if you can........

It's true Dawn. And our choice is now him or Obama. This country has no shot.

Good for the HuffingtonPost. I made this observation on 6/3. McCain showing his judgement, showing up in New Orleans to launch his campaign. A place he sacrificed to cover Bush's ass.

The article's a good read, especially when it comes to McCain's brain farts (being generous, since the other option is he's a chronic liar or an out of touch fool).

Reporter: Are you familiar with his (Obama's international) disinvestment (from Iran) bill?
McCain: No, I am not familiar with it at all.

PP from the article: the bill that overwhelmingly passed the House calls for international divestment from Iran, yet it's being held up in the Senate by. . . Republicans. Obama's bill cosponsored by McCain's buddies: Lieberman (I) and Cantor(R).

SO when Obama gets the Presidency, does Alan Keyes have a shot at his Senate seat?

Maybe I shouldn't use the phrase "have a shot", makes me sound like Huckabee.

had always supported Senate investigations, just not commissions."

Well I guess the question is then, was there a vote for an investigation that he did vote for that would back up this statement...

If what he said is true then what's the problem with it?

"Whether he simply wasn't aware of his voting record again"

Ouch, baby, ouch...

Police preventing blacks from crossing a Mississippi River Bridge in the aftermath and shooting people in the back desperate for food and water was another lowmark in American History. No question but the looting and rape stories and subsequent mobilization of Blackwater was an attempt to divert attention away from human suffering and bureaucratic incompetence. What would you do if you were trapped downtown and needed insulin that was spoiling in a pharmacy? Or you just had to have some clean bottled water to survive for a week? Hospitals and ATM machines were flooded. I would pay for it if I could or steal it if I had to.

Katrina couldn't have been stopped but people could have easily been mandatorily evacuated. They do it all the time for wildfires. 9-11 didn't just require a SMARTER RESPONSE, IT WAS PREVENTABLE. There was no need to let Arabs flight train in US schools without learning to land. Many hijackers made their intentions known and they should have been deported. Multiple warnings from mutiple sources should have at least led to heightened Airport Security. But NO, Shrub was only interested in cutting shrubs in Crawford while Cheney dreamed of a "Pearl Harbor like Event" to justify his evil plans. The secret service went to extreme measures the night before Shrub read "My Pet Goat", so they understood risks were heightened. They put surface to air missiles on his hotel rooftop.

The misinformation campaign launched in the aftermath of Katrina was nothing compared to events leading up to 9-11. That the administration succeeded in even a small way with diverting attention from their incompetence and graft during that event is incomprehensible. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Stupid is as stupid does.

Both events suffer from political whitewashing, as does the use of Federal Prosecutors for targeting Democrats.

SO when Obama gets the Presidency, does Alan Keyes have a shot at his Senate seat?


If the population of Illinois were just Alan Keyes and his family, he would still lose 95% of the vote... he needs to go away.

SO when Obama gets the Presidency, does Alan Keyes have a shot at his Senate seat?


If the population of Illinois were just Alan Keyes and his family, he would still lose 95% of the vote... he needs to go away.

McSame is an old senile coot. He needs to retire.

""Whether he simply wasn't aware of his voting record again""


Obama deflection

Oh you weren't talking about hanford?

www.funnystuffblog.com


Posted by 101Chairborne


I might have to create a few more logins to make sure this gets the appropriate amount of funny flags...

Holy shit that will have me laughing all day... I'm sure the insulin is under the Heinikens...

"This country has no shot.

Posted by the_nether"


please move elsewhere. soon.

I'm sure the insulin is under the Heinikens...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

Uhm, rob, when the water is all feces and chemical ridden with dead bodies floating all around, a warm, clean heineken is better than nothing.

As if getting drunk under those circumstances wasn't better than having to sit in shit cold sober.

Surely that fine upstanding gentleman looked furiously for water, vitamins, fruit juices, and nutritional foods only to be stymied and forced to settle for some Heiniken.

"McSame is an old senile coot. He needs to retire."

Not until after the election, if he had to bow out for some reason the Republicans might nominate a real candidate.

McSame'08!

"SO when Obama gets the Presidency, does Alan Keyes have a shot at his Senate seat?"

Nah, he'd have to move to Illinois... again.

Uhm, rob, when the water is all feces and chemical ridden with dead bodies floating all around, a warm, clean heineken is better than nothing.

you know what might be better then a clean heineken? Getting the fuck out of the feces and chemical ridden water with dead bodies floating all around...

Nah... best to wade around in it for hours looking for beer and new high tops and rims...

Surely that fine upstanding gentleman...
Posted by 101Chairborne

Well, chair, he definitely didn't have the look of the first person to hit the grocery stores... so you might be even more correct than you had intended.

You cannot expect McCain to remember how he voted three years ago, come on!

Or if he voted.

Or what the motion was.

Getting the fuck out of the feces and chemical ridden water with dead bodies floating all around...
Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole

You think that hadn't occurred to people?

See the post above, reminding people about the cops shooting folks trying to use the bridges to the next towns.

I was for Hurricane Katrina before I was against it..err..I was for the Katrina investigation before I was against it.

I'm gonna go take a nap now.

Sincerely,

John McBush

See the post above, reminding people about the cops shooting folks trying to use the bridges to the next towns.

Posted by Hagbard_Celine


Post a link to cops shooting people trying to use a bridge.

I've been to New Orleans... several times... there isn't just one bridge out of town.

""Whether he simply wasn't aware of his voting record again""


Obama deflection

Oh you weren't talking about hanford?

Posted by salamandagator


Looks like Obama's campaign knows how to play on the repubs home court. It's about f-ing time.

He probably voted agianst this too:
The Committee's report cites several conclusions in which the Administration's public statements were NOT supported by the intelligence. They include:

Statements and implications by the President and Secretary of State suggesting that Iraq and al-Qa'ida had a partnership, or that Iraq had provided al-Qa'ida with weapons training, were not substantiated by the intelligence.

Statements by the President and the Vice President indicating that Saddam Hussein was prepared to give weapons of mass destruction to terrorist groups for attacks against the United States were contradicted by available intelligence information.

Statements by President Bush and Vice President Cheney regarding the postwar situation in Iraq, in terms of the political, security, and economic, did not reflect the concerns and uncertainties expressed in the intelligence products.

Statements by the President and Vice President prior to the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate regarding Iraq's chemical weapons production capability and activities did not reflect the intelligence community's uncertainties as to whether such production was ongoing.

The Secretary of Defense's statement that the Iraqi government operated underground WMD facilities that were not vulnerable to conventional airstrikes because they were underground and deeply buried was not substantiated by available intelligence information.

The Intelligence Community did not confirm that Muhammad Atta met an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague in 2001 as the Vice President repeatedly claimed.


Additionally, the Committee issued a report on the Intelligence Activities Relating to Iraq conducted by the Policy Counterterrorism Evaluation Group and the Office of Special Plans within the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy. The report found that the clandestine meetings between Pentagon officials and Iranians in Rome and Paris were inappropriate and mishandled from beginning to end. Deputy National Security Advisor Steve Hadley and Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz failed to keep the Intelligence Community and the State Department appropriately informed about the meetings. The involvement of Manucher Ghobanifer and Michael Ledeen in the meetings was inappropriate. Potentially important information collected during the meetings was withheld from intelligence agencies by Pentagon officials. Finally, senior Defense Department officials cut short internal investigations of the meetings and failed to implement the recommendations of their own counterintelligence experts.

Today's reports are the culmination of efforts that began in March 2003, when, as Vice Chairman, Senator Rockefeller initially requested an investigation into the origin of the fraudulent Niger documents. In June 2003, he was joined by all Democrats on the Committee in pushing for a full investigation into prewar intelligence, which was eventually expanded by the Committee in February 2004 to include the five phase II tasks.

We don't need a bunch of commissions or more rounds of investigations to arrive at one very obvious fact: in future natural disasters, whenever a municipality is run by liberal Democrats, the feds need to declare martial law in advance of the storm. Anyone who lives here knew that what happened in South Louisiana was completely predictable; it's the most corrupt area in the country. And since no president in an age of 24-hour news coverage can afford to sit by while state and local officials join in with the looters--in the event they show up to work at all--I already know what will happen next time.

This is why legislators don't make good presidential candidates. It doesn't matter that he sought Congressional investigations; it's enough to the Obamites and their minions that he didn't vote for this commission or that one.

And considering Obama only has 2 years in Washington, he has a huge advantage. It's only against another legislator that his shocking inexperience and lack of any kind of resume is an actual asset.

I'd be more comfortable with Obama if he had worked the late shift at McDonald's for ten years, instead of having nebulous experience like "community organizer". Thousands of communities across America manage to do quite nicely without people who deign to "organize" them.

Then again, given where he's from and his constituency, people might need to be told what to do.

We don't need a bunch of commissions or more rounds of investigations to arrive at one very obvious fact: in future natural disasters, whenever a municipality is run by liberal Democrats, the feds need to declare martial law in advance of the storm. Anyone who lives here knew that what happened in South Louisiana was completely predictable; it's the most corrupt area in the country. And since no president in an age of 24-hour news coverage can afford to sit by while state and local officials join in with the looters--in the event they show up to work at all--I already know what will happen next time.

Posted by rightisright




Pathetic. Try again.

Can somebody remind me just why was McCain better than:

Rudy Giuliani,
Mitt Romney,
Mike Huckabee,
Fred Thompson,
Alan Keyes,
Tommy Thompson,
Tom Tancredo,
Duncan Hunter,
Jim Gilmore,
Sam Brownback?

I think the Republican reasoning was that he was the least bad among them. Is "Republican reasoning" an oxymoron, by the way?

Or, for that matter, how is he now better than Ron Paul? Paul has never actually conceded and is still eligible to become the nominee if the kind of very improbable scenarios that kept Hillary in the race were to happen.

the feds need to declare martial law in advance of the storm.

Given Bush's record in things martial, if he had done this we'd still be reconstructing Nome Alaska.

"you're doin' a heck of a job Muktaluktuk-ie", just doesn't have that rhythm to it.

"It doesn't matter that he sought Congressional investigations; it's enough to the Obamites and their minions that he didn't vote for this commission or that one."

Riiiight. Cuz at the time both Houses of Congress were ruled by Republicans who wouldn't criticize the administration no matter what.

Pathetic. Try again.

Posted by midiman
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Okay, I'll try again. If Barack Obama were presidency in 2005, Katrina would have unfolded in exactly the same way. Nobody outside the Lousiana parishes has the first clue about how badly and incompetently run things are. And nobody who does have a clue was the slightest bit surprised.

The only difference would have been that all these tired charges of racism out of Washington wouldn't have made it on the airwaves.

First refuge of scoundrels and incompetents--run to the nearest microphone and scream "racism". Worked on you, though. Didn't it?

Just what America needs at this sorry time in our history... (4) more years of a 72 year old senile President who should be playing bingo in a retirement home who hasn't got a clue whether he's on foot or horseback.

This old fool is getting more an more like Ronlad Reagan every day unfortunally for the Repubs, it is the Ronald Reagan when he was 92 years old. His memory will get him in trouble because he is forgetful an U-TUBE is not. President Obama, sounds good to me, you Rednecks must be going crazy!!!!!

"Okay, I'll try again. If Barack Obama were presidency in 2005, Katrina would have unfolded in exactly the same way."

That would have been a good defense but then that damned Scott McClellan spilled the beans about how the administration sat around for days without a clue about what to do. Don't you hate it when tattle tales like him ruin your party.

Get it..."party"???? hahahahaha!

You guys need to quit with the age comments about McSame....until after the election, the RNC could still ask McSame to bow out citing some medical concern or something and then nominate a lucid candidate.

Okay, I'll try again. If Barack Obama were presidency in 2005, Katrina would have unfolded in exactly the same way. Nobody outside the Lousiana parishes has the first clue about how badly and incompetently run things are. And nobody who does have a clue was the slightest bit surprised.

The only difference would have been that all these tired charges of racism out of Washington wouldn't have made it on the airwaves.

First refuge of scoundrels and incompetents--run to the nearest microphone and scream "racism". Worked on you, though. Didn't it?

Posted by rightisright at



Sorry, rightboy, but I never screamed "racism". The handling of the affair by the Bush admin was ROUNDLY condemned for its incompetence and indifference. The number of people still defending Bushco on this is small. The fact that you do so makes for interesting and fun- but not serious- reading.

That would have been a good defense but then that damned Scott McClellan spilled the beans about how the administration sat around for days without a clue about what to do. Don't you hate it when tattle tales like him ruin your party.
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You're not listening. Next time, there will be no ambiguity. As soon as President Obama sees a storm headed to New Orleans, he'll order the National Guard to NO and assume martial law. Even with Bobby Jindal in the governor's mansion (now), only a fool would let Nagin run around pretending to manage the show again. Nagin is an empty suit with a big mouth, and there's much to him that Obama would immediately recognize.

the RNC could still ask McSame to bow out citing some medical concern or something and then nominate a lucid candidate.

Posted by danni

Who is their number two? Romney?

"It doesn't matter that he sought Congressional investigations; it's enough to the Obamites and their minions that he didn't vote for this commission or that one.

Posted by rightisright at 2008-06-05 12:02 PM"

It doesn't matter that Obama obviously knows there are 50 states; it's enough to the McAncients and their minions that he accidentally said 57 one time.

(I wonder if Johnson will now call McCain a liar, or if he is merely a verbose partisan hack?)

Is the tumor on John McCain face anything like Pinocchio's nose?

Does it grow bigger with every lie he tells?...cause its gettin pretty big!!

You're not listening. Next time, there will be no ambiguity. As soon as President Obama sees a storm headed to New Orleans, he'll order the National Guard to NO and assume martial law. Even with Bobby Jindal in the governor's mansion (now), only a fool would let Nagin run around pretending to manage the show again. Nagin is an empty suit with a big mouth, and there's much to him that Obama would immediately recognize.

Posted by rightisright



Are you SERIOSLY suggesting that Buschco was waiting on the sidelines aware, and FULLY READY and prepared for the hurricane and the aftermath? You are so full of crap I can smell it on my computer. lol

"Who is their number two? Romney?"

Probably, and I imagine many Republicans are sort of wishing for a "do over". Personally I think he'd be harder for Obama to beat and his business experience would make him more attractive to voters with the present economic problems.
I don't even want to seem him on the ticket as VP, I'd much rather see Jeb.

Are you SERIOSLY suggesting that Buschco was waiting on the sidelines aware, and FULLY READY and prepared for the hurricane and the aftermath? You are so full of crap I can smell it on my computer. lol

Posted by midiman

LOL... "aware?" definitely. That's what meteorology is for... "FULLY READY?"
If the hurricane occurred in iraq, he would have been.. that's where all the manpower and equipment was.

We don't need a bunch of commissions or more rounds of investigations....

Posted by rightisright

Yeah, you're probably right, however the commissions and investigations were, for the most part, put together to try and figure out why there was a massive failure by the federal government, at that time I believe Republican, and the various Arabian Horse Association managers directing FEMA. While gulf coast democrats do have a reputation for corruption, it certainly does not match the incredible levels of incompetency in the Bush white house with regards to the aftermath of Katrina.

Why investigate, this was really a good thing....

"And so many of the people in the arena here, you
know, were underprivileged anyway, so this--this (she
chuckles slightly) is working very well for them."

Barbara Bush

I think the Republican reasoning was that he was the least bad among them. Is "Republican reasoning" an oxymoron, by the way? - Blueinbushland

Blueinbushland- the "thinking Republicans" (oxymoron?) decided that McCain would play the game of being the candidate, so that they would not have to waste one of the "brighter guys" like Romney (oxymoron?)(moron?) in 2008 because they know that they would lose whoever runs.

They might just, as Danni suggested, try to nominate a real V-P candidate in case McCain forgets where the Convention is, but chances are they will just lay low and try to find the next Karl Rove or Lee Atwater for 2012. They are looking under rocks as we speak.

Barbara Bush

Posted by danni

God damn, if that isn't one of the most sublime statements ever to come out of anyone's mouth anywhere...

That uncovers the entire philosophy right there.

BULLSHIT EXPRESS STRIKES AGAIN!

I wish I could remember all the details of what I'm about to say. Maybe somebody else can fill in the blanks.

Shortly before Katrina hit New Orleans a university worked up a computer model of what would happen to the levees in the event of a Cat 5 storm. It was presented in detail to local FEMA officals who listened politely and than pooh-poohed the idea.

I wish I could remember the name of that hypothetical computer model because it turned out to be right on the money in every detail.

FEMA knew . . . they could have sounded the warning but they just didn't give a damn what happened to a district that voted Democrat.

Barbara Bush

Posted by danni

God damn, if that isn't one of the most sublime statements ever to come out of anyone's mouth anywhere...

That uncovers the entire philosophy right there.

Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2008-06-05 12:59 PM | Reply | Flag


Danni is an absolute fucking genius and seems to have gotten even smarter recently. Way to go Danni.

The demacratic congress might be able to get their approval rating out of the teens if they would get on with the peoples work and reduce their investigations and committee meetings.

Shortly before Katrina hit New Orleans a university worked up a computer model of what would happen to the levees in the event of a Cat 5 storm. It was presented in detail to local FEMA officals who listened politely and than pooh-poohed the idea.

I wish I could remember the name of that hypothetical computer model because it turned out to be right on the money in every detail.

FEMA knew . . . they could have sounded the warning but they just didn't give a damn what happened to a district that voted Democrat.

Posted by Twinpac
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Try again. First of all, Katrina wasn't a Cat-5 in New Orleans. Second, even if FEMA didn't give a damn about the district, one would think that the district itself would. So in yet another example of local officials expecting the federal government to do their jobs for them, you're willing to give the dumbassess who run New Orleans a pass just because they're Democrats.
And in that case, you're right. It should just be understood that the same people who can't manage their city during sunny weather couldn't possibly be expected to when the rains are coming. Nobody who's spent much time in New Orleans should have been surprised at what happened there.
And neither will President Obama, next time. Troops will be dispatched, and martial law declared. And nobody will complain, because of what Obama looks like.

"Troops will be dispatched, and martial law declared. And nobody will complain, because of what Obama looks like."

Assuming, of course, that President Obama has had time to bring them back home from Iraq, with their equipment by the way. Now on the other hand, if President McBuah is in office he will send some Blackwater thugs in their new airplane to strafe the looters who are stealing food and water.

You guys need to quit with the age comments about McSame....until after the election, the RNC could still ask McSame to bow out citing some medical concern or something and then nominate a lucid candidate.

Posted by danni


I think right from the start the Gray OLD Party pushed for McLame because they knew any candidate they nominated had no chance to win given the wonderful governance they have exhibited lately.

McSame is a patsy. Funny thing is that he is too damn senile to recognize it.

Ah. My favorite deflection of all, courtesy of former (thank God) governor Blanco: "We weren't able to send troops because 1/4 of them are in Iraq."

Ummm, okay. Have you ever heard of Fort Polk, Kathleen? How about a telelphone, the one that's been ringing on your desk? You could pick it up and ask for help from Washington. And how about the other 3/4 of NG troops, sitting at home watching TV?

I have relatives that still didn't have power or basic supplies eight weeks after Hurricane Andrew, during Clinton's administration. Not a lot of headlines about THAT, of course.

But I digress. New Orleans was a city just screaming to be depopulated, and dispersed. Most illogical place in America to build a large metropolitan area, massive crime rates, sky-high unemployment, and a third-world government. Contrast the municipal government of New Orleans against that of far harder hit areas in Mississippi and Alabama, and you see a big difference.

Voters get the government they deserve. And NO residents were most deserving of all.

Self-importance is just one sign of early dementia

"You could pick it up and ask for help from Washington."

Friday, August 26
GULF COAST STATES REQUEST TROOP ASSISTANCE FROM PENTAGON: At a 9/1 press conference, Lt. Gen. Russel Honor, commander, Joint Task Force Katrina, said that the Gulf States began the process of requesting additional forces on Friday, 8/26.


Monday, August 29

7AM CDT -- KATRINA MAKES LANDFALL AS A CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE

MORNING -- BUSH SHARES BIRTHDAY CAKE PHOTO-OP WITH SEN. JOHN MCCAIN

8PM CDT -- GOV. BLANCO AGAIN REQUESTS ASSISTANCE FROM BUSH: "Mr. President, we need your help. We need everything you've got.

hey repubicans

you're right its a terrible election this year

we should all stay home and not vote at all

what do you obama voters think *hint hint* *wink wink*

lets stay home too ;)

"New Orleans was a city just screaming to be depopulated, and dispersed."

At least RisR is more honest than most Republicans, they might think it but he says it.

RisR, can you hear any other cities screaming????

New Orleans is a racist city and does not deserve 1 cent in federal funding. Even the mayor declared New Orleans a Chocolate city and white people are no longer welcome

RisR, can you hear any other cities screaming????

Posted by danni
* * *

Sure. Key West and Key Largo, Florida. Malibu. Parts of San Francisco. The North Shores of Oahu and Maui.

And that's just a few of the places I've lived, and know of firsthand. "A foolish man builds his house upon the sand . . . "

"New Orleans was a city just screaming to be depopulated, and dispersed."

At least RisR is more honest than most Republicans, they might think it but he says it.

Posted by danni
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Oh, I get it now. I missed it before--that I must be a racist because I don't think it's a good idea to squeeze 600,000 people in a swamp sitting below sea level, while bounded on all sides by the state's largest lake, the continent's largest river, and the Gulf of Mexico. In fact, if you've ever been there and stood in the French Quarter, and looked UP to see a freighter passing in the Mississippi River and wondered to yourself, "gee--what would happen if . . . "--STOP THINKING. You're a racist. And only Republicans think that way.
You need to be more like a good liberal, and spend billions of dollars on a levee system that won't work, and pour hundreds of millions into a local government that will spend it on limousines and trips to Las Vegas.

I didn't call you a racist RisR, I didn't even think you a racist. I don't think the situation of NO was really a result of racism but I do think the levees could have been and should have been strengthened to withstand whatever came NO's way.
I don't thing "depopulating and dispersing" a city's population is the way we want to handle things in the United States. We have created millions of refugees in Iraq, but why would we want to do the same thing here???

"You need to be more like a good liberal, and spend billions of dollars on a levee system that won't work, and pour hundreds of millions into a local government that will spend it on limousines and trips to Las Vegas."

Sorry but with the amount of money the Bush cronies have made from Katrina and Iraq forever makes accusations of government corruption off limits to righties.

Rob,
www.prisonplanet.com

and yeah, there are many bridges, but getting to any of them under those circumstances...?

Posted by Hagbard_Celine


PrisonPlanet? Seriously?

Are you a 9/11 Conspiracy Theorist too?

To sum up, posting to PrisonPlanet is about as credible as me posting to Rush Limbaugh's blog.

Rob, the link at the end was to a cnn article. And the story was real... .there was no opining.

Hagbard, officers returning fire on the Danziger Bridge is hardly evidence of social injustice or racism in New Orleans...

I don't thing "depopulating and dispersing" a city's population is the way we want to handle things in the United States.
Posted by danni
* * * *

Actually, that's exactly the way we handle things in the United States.
Cities depopulate and disperse all the time, for all kinds of reasons. Look at the Rust Belt. Look at the ghost towns out West, former mining and trading outposts. That's life.

We all knew that NO was living on borrowed time, and that when the big one came, the party would be over. And so it is. And few should mourn its passing. But by all means, if the good Senator Obama wants another commission or another set of hearings or another round of inquisitions, who am I to deny him his race-mongering fun?

Have at it. Go ahead and study the past, exhaustively. It's when he starts talking about serious policy ideas he has for the FUTURE that things start to get scary for me.

ok speaking historically more people died from a tidal wave in Providence, RI that did in NO.....so perhaps Providence should be abandoned.
San Fran was seriously damaged due to earth quake...we should abandon San Francisco.
Miami suffered severe damage in Hurricane Andrew so we should abandon Miami.

People have lived in NO for hundreds of years, they will continue to live there, we'll just have to build the necessary levy system to make it safe.
Probably could have built it many times over on what we just wasted in Iraq.

I didn't call you a racist RisR, I didn't even think you a racist. I don't think the situation of NO was really a result of racism but I do think the levees could have been and should have been strengthened to withstand whatever came NO's way.
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Well, you're wrong about that. I can tell you don't know New Orleans, and have never been through a Cat-5. The idea that you can hurricane-proof New Orleans is pure fantasy. Can't be done.

But that's not what you meant when you said, "At least RisR is more honest than most Republicans, they might think it but he says it." I know what you were trying to imply, and so do you. And I don't really give a damn. Libs love tossing the little racist innuendoes around, from a position of pretense. I'll bet I have more black neighbors than live within blocks of your lily-white Florida enclave. For that matter, I have more black neighbors than Obama and Jeremiah Wright, who clock in a couple of hours a week at their church, then scurry home to their gated communities with security gates. But the idea that I always thought building in New Orleans is stupid must mean I'm sharing rides with Senator Byrd on the way to Klan rallies.

How stupid. And just think, we'll have at least five more years of this kind of crap, when everyone who has something negative to say about Obama's socialism will be branded as some kind of crossburning troglodyte. The left is pathetic.

" I know what you were trying to imply, and so do you."

Not that you are racist, if you think that then you are wrong. I believe that you and most Republicans aren't necessarily racist but I that you do have some very arrogant and selfish attitudes towards all poor people, I don't really think the color makes much difference to you.

Go back and read my posts, I never even hinted that you were a racist person, I've blogged with you far too long to think that.

I believe that you and most Republicans aren't necessarily racist but I that you do have some very arrogant and selfish attitudes towards all poor people,


Don't allow yourself to fall into the trap that disdaining governmental social programs primarily on the basis of the unintended consequences they create is the same thing as callous indifference toward all poor people. Liberals have a real annoying predisposition toward doing that - "What? Someone disagrees with my 'altruistic' worldview? Well, they must be greedy then. They must despise all poor people."

Generalizing now....

Conservatives tend to feel that government solutions to social problems aren't really solutions at all. Often, the unintended consequences outweigh the positives. Conservatives tend to feel that the best way to help the poor is through family, friends, local communities and private charity. It's for this reason, this worldview, that Conservatives contribute more total dollars and more money as a ratio to income than do liberals.

"Conservatives tend to feel that the best way to help the poor is through family, friends, local communities and private charity."

Been there, done that. The good old days when poverty was far higher among the elderly, before social security, before the social safety net. You people want to turn back the clock to the 1920s, the "good old days." Except it wasn't so good for the average person.

I believe that you and most Republicans aren't necessarily racist but I that you do have some very arrogant and selfish attitudes towards all poor people, I don't really think the color makes much difference to you.

Posted by danni
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Yes. The operative term, of course, being "necessarily".

I think that Hollywood moguls who build their homes on Malibu cliffsides are retards. I think that crinkly retirees who build mansions in the Florida Keys are retards. I think that software engineers who build 10,000 square foot palaces directly atop fault lines are retards. I think that Japanese who build nuclear power plants in the middle of the world's most active earthquake zone are retards. And of all the people I've just mentioned, there aren't a lot of so-called "people of color" among them.

I confess I do have an arrogant and selfish attitude toward people who do stupid things, then come along and expect taxpayers to pony up for another round of dumbassedness. So, a question: how much are you willing to have your taxes go up, in order to hurricane-proof the city of New Orleans? And does it occur to you that if New Orleanians want to hurricane-proof their city, it should be New Orleanians who pay for it?

Just an idea. By the way, I don't think you and most Democrats are "necessarily" retarded. In fact, it's completely unnecessary.

Null,


It doesn't have to be all-or-nothing.


My biggest problem is that liberals come accross as having a very Utopian viewpoint toward their beloved government largesse. Libertarians do the same.

One of my biggest problems with government programs is the beaurocratic waste associated with them - how little of the dollar collected actually ends up in the hands of the intended recipient. You and I have discussed this before. 90% of our governement's social programs should be eliminated. Instead, institute a negative income tax for the bottom tax bracket. Just quickly and efficiently and WITHOUT all of the beaurocratic waste and more importantly WITHOUT rewarding bad behavior (paying women to have kids out of wedlock). Simply move the money and then it's incumbent upon the individual to use it wisely, or not. At that point, the safety net becomes largely privately run and we don't have a bunch of social programs that are structured to remove consequence from one's poor decisions.

I don't have a real problem with government redistributing wealth, to a point. It's HOW it's done and the unintended consequences that result which are my primary complaints.

The problem with the social safety net as it's currently structured is that it contributes to out-of-wedlock childbirth, which creates a viscious circle of problems for the next generation and its attempt to remove consequence from poor decisions which only results in poorer decisions. Oh, and of course the almost criminal inefficiency in which beaurocracies handle money.

Good for John - the only thing he did right.

It was a witch hunt from the word go.

Where was the Mayor? Where was the Govenor? How come Florida has Hurricanes every year and does not have an issue...Fema or no Fema.

How about Congressman Jefferson having the National Guard take him to his house..so he can retrieve his bribe money...by the way...did the Democrats ask him to leave the Congress...nope still there.

New Orleans after Katrina is what the US healthcare system will look like after Obama. Stock up on bandages now.

"So, a question: how much are you willing to have your taxes go up, in order to hurricane-proof the city of New Orleans?"

Considering they haven't gone up at all while we spend far more than the amount needed every month in Iraq and while the Bush tax cuts are still in place it is a funny question.
In reality I would be willing to pay a little more income tax for rebuilding infrastructure all over the country but I would stipulate that all of the builders involved would emply American labor, no illegals, and at decent wages.

"And does it occur to you that if New Orleanians want to hurricane-proof their city, it should be New Orleanians who pay for it?"

If they could raise the money but I doubt they could. YOu know more than I about that but I doubt their credit rating would be too high and their bonds probably wouldn't sell to well.
If we can pay to rebuild Baghdad then New Orleans doesn't seem to be ignorable.

Null, take a look at out of wedlock birthrates in the good old days - before all the social programs. Two parents dude - solves a lot of problems. Lot more personal responsibility back then also. At some time in our lives, our mother had to stop wipping our butts and we learned to wipe our own.

In your eyes, do the poor have any responsibility in making a better life for themselves?

As to Katrina, New Orleans is a bathtub. Everyone there knew that. This was going to happen sooner or later - and the buses man the buses! Don't worry though, they will have their "chocolate city" back soon enough.

Before I get reamed for the "chocolate city" comment:

"It's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild New Orleans--the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans," the mayor said. "This city will be a majority African American city. It's the way God wants it to be. You can't have New Orleans no other way. It wouldn't be New Orleans."

Gee, with a mayor like this I can definately see how it was Bush's fault!

Chocolate City. 1975. Parliament. Washington D.C.

Good votes by MickieCain. The only investigations should be the widespread corruption and misappropriations of federal money by the New Orleans and LA State gov's. They are, and were useless peices of lying shit, and their population, who reelected their racist mayor doesn't deserve the sweat off our gonads.

Hey John McCain would have voted to "Crucify" Jesus Christ if he thought it would give him a one tiny bit more power!!!

Don't single out McOld....hell...that's part of the definition of being a politician. They have sold us out and are not held accountible....state and fed.

He's GOP. I did not know this however, it would figure.

The governments of New Orleans and the state of Louisiana are a buncha shameless, lying bastards about the whole Katrina responsibility story...and, as usual were/are aided by a treasonist, anti-american liberal media. Geesh...I now understand why their heroes Linen, Stalin, and Mao, purged their populations of slime like them.

ANTICADILLAC

And Obama would befriend the Romans, have Jesus executed, then after he got caught, he would say "The Romans I knew didn't act like that, when I was around them"

Kuma

"Can somebody remind me just why was McCain better than:

Rudy Giuliani,
Mitt Romney,
Mike Huckabee,
Fred Thompson,
Alan Keyes,
Tommy Thompson,
Tom Tancredo,
Duncan Hunter,
Jim Gilmore,
Sam Brownback?"

Nope. But then again Republicans didn't pick him either. The Media picked him and pumped him up. Operation Chaos Democrat style. He wasn't even a shoe-in until the Media started praising him. And the Media did this for you, Democrats, so you could have a chance at winning this election.

"You're not listening. Next time, there will be no ambiguity. As soon as President Obama sees a storm headed to New Orleans, he'll order the National Guard to NO and assume martial law. ..."

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Can the President legally do this? What about the State's sovereign authority? Wasn't there a legal issue holding Bush from asserting the Federal Gov't authority over the State?