Obama Vows Staunch Support for Israel

Sayin' and Doin' are two different things.

fuck israel

sink or swim bitches

Luckily because most people in America still believe in freedom and democracy unlike you MP

What would you rather have instead of Israel ... Hamas or Hezbollah?

What a bunch of assclowns you lefties have become.

Lets all get our burkas and hijabs ready for Sharia right MP ?

Apparently this is what you and your ilk would rather see here in America

www.dailymail.co.uk

The comments so far are a cesspool human thought.

The comments so far are a cesspool human thought.

Is it the complete and proper sentences that trouble you?

Manypaths-
Yes. Thanks for responding to the triviality.

Lets all get our burkas and hijabs ready for Sharia right MP ?

You are a Chicken-Shit-Mother-Fucker.

BOO!!!!

Earlier today on the Radio they were discussing how many Jewish Americans will not vote for Barack Obama because they feel he wants to try and negotiate with Iran, and the "terrorists."

They feel he would be weak, and that they wouldn't be able to count on American support in the Middle East.

Which proves more that America is an Israeli state.

It also shows that given a road to peace or a road to war, many Jews would prefer America to wipe out the rest of the middle east. As much as (if not more than) the middle east wants Israelis wiped out of the region.

In my opinion, without Israel, there wouldn't be a Hamas or a Hezbollah.
America needs to concern itself with new energy technology and leave the middle east to burn itself down.

I dont have the slightest fear that there are terrorists looking to fly over to America to destroy it. Oklahoma City bomber was a white American, almost all terrorist acts in the United States have been caused by White Americans. Including, the attack on the twin towers aka 9/11.

Manypaths-
GZ is a rabid lunatic. Don't get me wrong. But your comments are steaming shit, and not really worthy of any consideration.

Take a step back and understand that you just said that "JAPS" should be sucking your dick.

Just fuckin' shut up, like for a REALLY long time.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

People with F16s, Apaches, Mercova tanks, cluster bombs and NUCLEAR FUCKING WEAPONS should be able to take care of themselves

As if there were any doubt about this.

Israel is not America. Never has been and never will be.

Thanks LBJ, your Israeli gifts keep on giving.

A more important lesson is that GZ is not Israel.

OBAMA SAYs..."There is no room at the negotiating table for terrorist organizations."

I wonder if that includes state sponsered terrorism... if so i guess that means no talking to Iran

OH thats right....hahaaah
.

A more important lesson is that GZ is not Israel

Just works for it.

And Judas-Israel is currently talking to Syria AND hezbollah. Bush is currently talking to Iran.

Your point? Other than the one on your head, of course....

Listening to the three candidates (where was Paul or Barr? Friggin' anti-non-semites in AIPAC)was like listening to the GOPper debates arguing who was more Reagan than the other guy. "I'll borrow lots of money from China to give to Israel." " I'll borrow even more money than him!"

Sorry, but for all the support that America gives to Israel I think I am owed some nice slow blowjobs from one or two of thier pretty little Princesses.

Do you not like blowjobs? It's ok if you don't, but if you do, I'll see if I can hook you up with one of their girls too.

Let me know! email me.....

"Israel is not America."

True true. But do we hear any other country influencing who the future president of America will be?
They aren't even trying to be coy about it.

People with F16s, Apaches, Mercova tanks, cluster bombs and NUCLEAR FUCKING WEAPONS should be able to take care of themselves

yes, yes they should.

For all we do for that country we should all have JAPs swinging by their lips from our cocks!

Easy, there, ManyPaths. Your anti-Asian rhetoric won't fly in here; it's a violation of the code of liberalis...oh....wait....you'
re shitting on kikes? Oh, sorry, my mistake. Carry on.

Posted by NappyHeadedHo at 2008-06-04 05:21 PM

You obviously haven't a clue what a JAP is do you ?

Clue Zappa lyrics ...

With a garlic aroma
That could level Tacoma

Last time I checked JAP stood for Jewish American Princess. or something like that.

Larry Mohr

"Posted by NappyHeadedHo at 2008-06-04 05:21 PM"

"You obviously haven't a clue what a JAP is do you?

Posted by odie1kanobe at 2008-06-04 06:22 PM"

Nappy? Nappy doesn't have a clue what toilet paper is. JAP is way beyond his level of comprehension.

A "jap" also can refer to a jalapeno pepper.

In any case, they taste great.

For all we do for that country we should all have JAPs swinging by their lips from our cocks!

Easy, there, ManyPaths. Your anti-Asian rhetoric won't fly in here; it's a violation of the code of liberalis...oh....wait....you'
re shitting on kikes? Oh, sorry, my mistake. Carry on.

Posted by NappyHeadedHo at 2008-06-04 05:21 PM

You obviously haven't a clue what a JAP is do you ?

Posted by odie1kanobe

WOW Nappy. You flew WAY over some peoples' heads.

I for one appreciate your clever humor.

I wonder if they'll ever get it. Enjoy your V-8 if you do fellows!!!!!

And Monte???? How did Nappy go over your head? That isn't like you.

Sorry, props to you as well Zat!!!!

And Judas-Israel is currently talking to Syria AND hezbollah. Bush is currently talking to Iran.

NG3....show me a article that says bush is talking to iran

"And Monte???? How did Nappy go over your head? That isn't like you.

Posted by Manypaths at 2008-06-04 06:38 PM"

Fuck! I didn't read all the way through. What a fucking idiot I have been. Where is my dunce cap? where is the corner? D'oh!

"With a garlic aroma
That could level Tacoma

Posted by Zatoichi at 2008-06-04 06:23 PM"

I had a JAP for a roomate for a year in college, and this applied to her in spades. (Am I allowed to write "spades"?)

"(Am I allowed to write "spades"?)"

Posted by mOntecOre

Maybe ...

Maybe not ...

Sorry, props to you as well Zat!!!!

Posted by Manypaths at 2008-06-04 06:39 PM

I'm only here for the beer.

Anyone else had the Thai beer Chang?
Made me think of Carlton in a Sydney pub.

"Where is my dunce cap?"

Rodent AKA RideOn is wearing it. As usual.

Judas:www.nysun.com

That's 2007.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/ 0529/p08s01-comv.html

American and Iranian diplomats held historic talks yesterday with Iran hoping to ease a US exit from the war.

The fact that these talks took place at all was a signal that both sides seek a new chapter in Iraq.

Four hours of negotiations between their respective ambassadors to Baghdad, held in the chambers of the Iraqi prime minister, focused solely on Iraq.

That singular concentration, too, was a sign that the two countries may try to isolate the Iraq question from the other issues that divide them, such as Iran's nuclear ambitions.

A number of experts on diplomacy and terrorism point to mixed messages from the Bush administration on dealing with rogue states. It has named an envoy for Sudan to deal with a Sudanese leadership the administration accuses of genocide. It has engaged North Korea in denuclearization talks after initially labeling it in 2002 part of an "axis of evil," and it has continued those talks even amid recent signals Pyongyang was providing nuclear technology to Syria. Talks continue with Iran, through European interlocutors. "We are caught between precedents," says the Wilson Center's Litwak. "We can't replicate the Iraq model and it's not been clear that we're prepared to offer the Libya model," which included removing the threat of regime change.

"Rodent AKA RideOn is wearing it. As usual.

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-06-04 06:57 PM"

No wonder it smells like ass.

McCain will out-jew Obama.

It looks like Mossad made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

How would MonteCore know what ass smelt like if He hadn't been up a few. Funny Dat Be.

Larry Mohr

No, it isn't, lArRy. Ruff ruff.

These candidates (McCain, Clinton, Obama) are not fit to be POTUS.

This is one of the primary reasons.

None of these candidates went before an Italian PAC, or a Sweedish PAC pledging their "support."

MonteCore regrgitating the same slams is akin to reusing a used TampOn. It's disgustingly lame.

Larry Mohr

Regurgitating

Israeli Money from US Taxpayers!

Of course Obamma is a staunch supporter of Israel because he knows exactly where his fianacing is coming from - right from the Israeli Govt....by way of the US Taxpayers!

I have nothing against Israel but I find it very sad that it is impossible to seek high office in this country without pledging undying loyalty to a foreign power.

Or maybe it is just sad that nobody has the balls to challenge the notion that it is impossible.

Regardless, that Obama has chosen pandering over intelligent discussion of the issue hardly supports his marketing as a candidate for change.

OB Hussein is a liar....in the vein of Clintonism, there is no lie he will not tell to gain the office.

I have nothing against Israel but I find it very sad that it is impossible to seek high office in this country without pledging undying loyalty to a foreign power.

Or maybe it is just sad that nobody has the balls to challenge the notion that it is impossible.

Regardless, that Obama has chosen pandering over intelligent discussion of the issue hardly supports his marketing as a candidate for change.

Posted by Sully

Well, as crazy as some may think it is, it's VERY important that we pledge support of our allies. The reason it's a common issue with Israel is because of the continuous conflict there. To put it differently, if a neighbor of Britain's turned against and made threats against Britain and the U.S., don't you think the presidential candidates would pledge unequivocal support for Britain?

OK, fine, whatever. How did we come to a place where a candidate for US President has to genuflect to a bunch of foreign lobbyists and pledge loyalty to a foreign country in order to get elected?

Sharon to Peres: "We Control America"
The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate." -- Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee: 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".
"I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews..... terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen .... I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country" -----Sec. of State John Foster Dulles quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff

www.mediamonitors.net

FLASHBACK: HEAD OF AIPAC BOASTED ABOUT HIS CONTROL OF POLITICIANS IN 1992

In 1992, Harry Katz phoned the President of AIPAC, David Steiner, to offer contributions. Steiner proceeded to make several claims, including negotiating with then-candidate Bill Clinton over who would be Secretary of State, and had already "cut a deal" with Baker for more aid to Israel.
Unknown to Steiner, Katz taped the phone call and gave the recording to the media, worried that AIPAC's influence had grown to dangerous levels.

Following the release of transcripts of the phone conversation, David Steiner was forced to resign the Presidency of AIPAC.

www.whatreallyhappened.com

Obama wants to stay alive now...

It looks like Mossad made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

Posted by Ray

ff

Another way to stay alive a little longer as President ~ should he make it that far ~ is to have Ron Paul as his VP...no one wants Ron to be Prez:>)

Oh Bani .. get some new material from your islamist scum friends - these are old lies

Apparently duped by propaganda fabricated by the Islamic Association for Palestine, Shuck retells the group's invented story that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was quoted by Israel's Kol Yisrael Radio as saying, "Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it." (See CAMERA's expos of this bogus quote)

www.camera.org

In a May 10, 2002 column ("Now Isn't the Time for Bush League Moves"), nationally-syndicated columnist Georgie Anne Geyer included bogus and inflammatory allegations against Prime Minister Sharon and Israel's supporters in America.

First, she wrote:

In fact, it [American support for Israel's actions] led Prime Minister Sharon to tell his Cabinet recently, "I control America."

CAMERA conducted extensive Nexis and Internet searches, and found that no mainstream news organization reported as true the fabricated quotation.

The hoax originated with an October 3, 2001 press release from the pro-Hamas group, the Islamic Association for Palestine. It said:

An acrimonious argument erupted during the Israeli cabinet weekly session last week between Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres during which Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying "don't worry about American pressure, we control America."

next he'll be signing a seven year peace treaty...oy.

LET MY People Go! - Moses O'bama at the river Jordon while handing out free Copper Tone #8 sun sceen.

The hoax originated with an October 3, 2001 press release from the pro-Hamas group, the Islamic Association for Palestine. It said:

An acrimonious argument erupted during the Israeli cabinet weekly session last week between Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres during which Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying "don't worry about American pressure, we control America."

Posted by Saint

The Rise of the Jewish Empire: The Jewish Conquest of America
By: atheo on: 10.04.2008 [00:44 ] (4757 reads)

by Bob Finch

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America may have lost the war against vietnam but it has never been invaded or conquered by external forces since its declaration of independence. But since the second world war and, in particular the establishment of the terrorist state refered to as Israel, it has been conquered from within. Wasps no longer have any significant control over american politics or its foreign policies

The israelis in america control the republican party and the democratic party and even the green party. They control the left wing of american politics (noam chomsky, stephen zunes) almost as much as they control the extreme right wing. They control congress. Jack abramoff apparently had in the region of 60 members of congress on his payroll. And these were not insignificant members of congress either since he funded tom delay who provided dick cheney's power base. This israeli was not only funding american goys but terrorists in the jews-only state. And this is the political influence of just one jewish billionaire. When aipac and all the other jewish lobbying groups in america, whose prime loyalties are to the jews-only state in palestine, are taken into consideration, the jews are financing virtually all members of congress. These days when american politicians talk about the need to defend their country from external threats what they mean is any challenge to the jews-only state in palestine.

The israelis control vast slabs of the bush administration. "The neoconservatives ... control the Office of the President, the Office of the Vice President, the Department of State, the Department of Defense, and the police-state apparatus known as "Homeland Security." (Paul Craig Roberts Outfoxed by bin Laden' www.antiwar.com). Wayne madsen has suggested they're aiming to take control of the super secret National Security Agency (NSA) - America's premier electronic surveillance body. "What has some NSA officials worried is that with pro-Israeli neocons now engrained within the CIA, Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), State Department, and National Security Council, NSA is ripe for penetration by Israeli intelligence. With outside contractors now permeating NSA and a major Israeli espionage operation being discovered inside the Pentagon, once again there is a fear within NSA that foreign intelligence services such as the Mossad could make another attempt to penetrate America's virtual "Fort Knox" of intelligence treasures and secrets." (Wayne Madsen The neocon power grab at NSA and an attempt to stifle the press' www.onlinejournal.com).

Israelis own and control the american media. They compose the largest group of billionaires in america who fund a vast network of political research organizations which determine the views of america's jewish owned media and america's jewish funded politicians.

www.iraq-war.ru

If we are voting.

Fuck Israel.

"To put it differently, if a neighbor of Britain's turned against and made threats against Britain and the U.S., don't you think the presidential candidates would pledge unequivocal support for Britain?"

First of all, Britain is 100 times the ally Israel is or will ever be. The myth of Israel being a "crucial ally" doesn't stand up to the slightest scrutiny. They've attacked us one more time than they've ever attacked an enemy on our behalf. And they've been caught spying on us a few more times than that. If Israel wants to fight a perpetual war against the Palestinians and their supporters, I have no problem with that. But I shouldn't be taxed to pay for it.

Secondly your question makes no sense. We don't have to pay Great Britain to be our ally. Great Britiain is nothing like Israel. Either defend our relationship with Israel on its own merit or give up. Trying to obscure the debate by invoking an ally that actually helps us without getting very much in return doesn't support your case at all.

hussein obama - the nature of the beast.

It's sad that cow-towing to Israel is considered a prerequisite to the presidency. First, it would be refreshing if one of the candidates or the media acknowledged that Israel and the Jewish people are not synonymous--just like the American people do not equal the Bush administration. The strongest critics of Israeli government and it's brutal policies are Jews. Second, it is the only country in the region with nuclear weapons and can obliterate any neighboring nation at will. The moronic notion that any neighboring nation would want to wipe Israel off the map is as absurd as a fly holding a vendetta against an elephant. Third, blind support of Israel has gotten us to the world we live in today. It's time to change the policy and make Israel play nice with it's neighbors before it is too late. Finally, support of Israel from the evangelical fringe in the U.S. really needs to be called out for what it is. The Rev. Haggees and Pat Robertsons and their millions of followers think that prophesy is being fulfilled by the return of the Jews to Israel which heralds the second coming of Christ whereupon the Jews who do not accept Christianity (Ann Coulter used the term "perfected") face God's wrath. I am not joking--look it up. These morons who believe in a God of limitless power think that He is waiting around with His hands tied for humans to free Him so He can do His thing.

"To put it differently, if a neighbor of Britain's turned against and made threats against Britain and the U.S., don't you think the presidential candidates would pledge unequivocal support for Britain?"

First of all, Britain is 100 times the ally Israel is or will ever be. The myth of Israel being a "crucial ally" doesn't stand up to the slightest scrutiny.

Apparently many disagree with you.

They've attacked us one more time than they've ever attacked an enemy on our behalf. And they've been caught spying on us a few more times than that. If Israel wants to fight a perpetual war against the Palestinians and their supporters, I have no problem with that. But I shouldn't be taxed to pay for it.

Everyone spies on each other.

Secondly your question makes no sense. We don't have to pay Great Britain to be our ally.

What? Why are you talking about paying someone? Obama didn't say we're going to PAY Israel to be our ally -- he pledged support, as in, if Israel needs us we will be there in whatever way necessary. The only thing not making sense is your suggestion of buying allies.

Great Britiain is nothing like Israel.

Exactly, which is why publicly pledging support is important for the latter but not the former.

Either defend our relationship with Israel on its own merit or give up. Trying to obscure the debate by invoking an ally that actually helps us without getting very much in return doesn't support your case at all.

Wow, well if you don't know how Britain has benefited from its relationship with the U.S. then it's difficult to help you. I'd encourage you to read some history books about World War I, World War II, and our economic relationship just to name a few.

Posted by Sully

"Apparently many disagree with you."

That's fine. They aren't presenting any facts to support the position that Israel is a "crucial ally". And that is mostly because there aren't any. Pray tell: What does Israel do for us?

"Everyone spies on each other."

No, they don't.

"The only thing not making sense is your suggestion of buying allies."

If you are unaware of the amount of money we give to Israel, that is your shortcoming. Your ignorance is not evidence that I am wrong.

"Wow, well if you don't know how Britain has benefited from its relationship with the U.S. then it's difficult to help you. I'd encourage you to read some history books about World War I, World War II, and our economic relationship just to name a few."

You have a point in that I said Great Britain gets nothing from us. Yes, we've done much for Great Britain over the years. My poit was that when we ask them for help, they help us without asking for more. They appreciate what we've already done. We've done alot for Israel over the years. All we really ask in return is for them to stop building settlements and they tell us to go to hell.

Sully,
There isn't a country on this planet we aren't attempting to spy on. Same goes for every other modern country on this planet.

My best guess for what Israel does to be our ally is provide us with intel and covert operations. It's pretty hard to proove it, but there isn't one other logical explanation as to why we would continue to give and give.

Sully,

It's true that every, or most, countries spy on each other. Here is an article about just that: www.slate.com I think you'll find plenty of other sources through a quick Google search.

I'm aware of how much money we give to Israel, but it's not about *buying* Israel -- it's about supporting them. Whether it's monetary, military, or diplomatic support, we provide it. To argue that we're attempting to "buy" Israel as an ally ignores reality. So it's not my ignorance, it's your misunderstanding of what our relationship with Israel is. Furthermore, why is everyone on this site so quick to call other's "ignorant" and "stupid"? I had a guy yesterday think Scooter Libby was convicted of leaking Plame's identity and he called me a "moron" for not knowing that, disregarding that Libby was never convicted of such a thing. So, my *alleged* ignorance is not evidence of you being wrong, it just shows that you don't understand the nature of our relationship -- they're not a "bought" ally -- whether we were to give them financial support or not they would still like and enjoy our support.

Anyway, that's a side note. Here are some reasons Americans support Israel: 1) we sympathize with Israel against terrorist attackers; 2) we have a common ancestry; 3) it's not a dictatorship; and 4) shared religious beliefs.

Now those are common reasons some may discuss. I think other reasons are: 1) strategic location; 2) ally within an anti-American region; and 3) their support for us.

Now, feel free to go off on some or all of those reasons, but keep in mind that I am giving you common reasons as to why *Americans* support Israel; not necessarily my own.