Talk about trying to divide the world, this is a good way to do it.

The UN: End it don't mend it.

At least get it out of NYC for starters.

The idea has merit considering how many less than democratic governments are coalescing into an anti-Western, anti-democratic bloc in the UN. How the heck were they allowed to join if they can advocate Shariah, polygamy, and plutocratic/autocratic governments is bafling.

baffling!

"The idea has merit considering how many less than democratic governments are coalescing into an anti-Western, anti-democratic bloc in the UN. How the heck were they allowed to join if they can advocate Shariah, polygamy, and plutocratic/autocratic governments is bafling.

Posted by townncountry"

Probably the exactly the same way countries that advocated communism and totalitarianism were allowed to join for years.

There have been anti-Western, anti-democratic blocs in the UN for decades. Nothing new here, except the cast of players.

Well shit, I bet they are baffled at all the democratic governments too.

Shit, did people just get retarded, what is the UN for? What is the UN's mission statement?


Don't suppose it was to get all the countries together and talk about differences and try to correct those problems.

Creating division is not going to solve problems, it is going to create them and start wars. My word, don't any of you know history.

1. Gaining ground - really?
2. Next president - ah, I detect bias.
3. Virtually certain republican nominee - if he doesn't keel over first.

Continue.

Is this like the "Superfriends"

It would be wonderful if we had a truly global democractic government to ensure peace in the world for all time. However, there would need to be an elite "superdemocracy" above it all to correct any chaotic decisions that might be made by the great unwashed. McCain may be on to something here.

These democracies would be nations, too, right?
Sort of a league of nations!

I'm thinking John forgot there already is NATO, SEATO and a bunch of other organizations.

Maybe he dozed of watching the League of Super-heroes or something.

But does this mean McBush's America would no longer deal with China, saudistan, Kuwait, Jorden, Egypt, those oily stans etc. etc. etc.

Methinks not.

He just wants to cozy up to the euro-weenies, especially France, cause they surrenderd in VN even quicker than him or Nixon.

Of course he does...he's a globalist piece of shit. But so are the other two, so who really cares...

"Gaining ground this political season is a proposed League of Democracies designed to strengthen support for the next president's overseas agenda and ensure a global leadership role for the United States."

McCain would probably be advocating a screw-them-we're-going-it-on-
our-own "plan" but Bush already did that and got his ass handed back to him on a steaming platter of falafel and human meat.

Look into McCain's foreign policy crew, listen to him, and you realize he's just another neocon who -- placed in power -- will only succeed in taking this country down the path to more grief.

"It could act where the U.N. fails to act," he said last month, and pressure tyrants "with or without Moscow's and Beijing's approval."

Oh great, isolation!!!!!

Way to take us back a generation or two you old fart!!!!

I wonder if that makes him FEEL younger or something.

What a jack-ass......

Sorry but a world body "led by the United States" is not going to happen. It is nothing more than campaign nonsense. the UN is not a perfect body but it does offer an opportuntiey for all nations to discuss issues under one roof. No world body will ever be able to end all wars nor dictate what all nations will do or not do.

"It would be wonderful if we had a truly global democractic government to ensure peace in the world for all time. However, there would need to be an elite "superdemocracy" above it all to correct any chaotic decisions that might be made by the great unwashed. McCain may be on to something here."

Am I wrong to assume you were being sarcastic???

"I wonder if that makes him FEEL younger or something."

I think he pops a few Viagra right before he says stuff like that.

Is this like the "Superfriends"

Posted by Chill

lol I thought the same thing!

Am I wrong to assume you were being sarcastic???

Posted by danni at 2008-05-30 02:55 PM | Reply

Nope.

"It's a fantastical organization where Sean Hannity, G. Gordon Liddy and Oliver North are caped super-heroes in a future fightin' evil "liberals" like OBL!"

Posted by Redneckville

Did you picture them wearing tights when you wrote that inane bit of babble?

I think they should use the term "Legion".

Its way cooler and will strike terror into the hearts of evil-doers everywhere!

Okay, it's 2002 and President Mcsame goes to the League of Superfriends to plan the invasion of Iraq. As happened in the real world to Bush, 95 of the 100 democracies tell him to go screw himself.

does Mcsame form the Sub-League of Superrentablefrieds, as Bush did, and skip the whole vote thing, or does he submit to the democratic will of the majority and stay home?

There has to be a Mcsamiac out there who can answer.

I think the membership roll for McBush's new organization is probably pretty similar to the current membership of the Coalition of the Willing.
The participation by the member nations would also be along those lines.

What McCain and the Neocons want are allies who will DO WHAT THEY ARE TOLD, dammit.

after the Iraq debacle, the chances of the US bullying another nation into joining us in a war of choice are zero.

If the human race is to have any sort of sustainable future it is neccessary to assure some kind of evolutionary/progressive process/institution that will assure greater co-operation of the great global powers.

The League of Nations was supposed to be that institution. Set up up after the "War to End All Wars" it failed to stop WWII and was dissolved.

The United Nations was also supposed to be that institution but when America and Britain realised that it couldn't be used as a rubber stamp it had all it's teeth pulled and became an unruly high school class (replete with spitballs) where nothing useful ever got done.

Now John McAncient thinks a "League of Democracies" would be a pretty neat idea cos it would allow America (and presumably other democratic countries) to ignore the will of Russia and China et al.

Spud sees a coupla small problem with that notion.

First, Russia still gots the BOMB.

Second, America is still deeply in Debt to the tricksome and long term planning Chinese.

Closing yer eyes won't make these realities go away.

That sed, a true coalition of countries who've at least committed to some semblence of civilised standards including democracy might have some benefits if they use their combined power to support a progressive agenda that lifts much of the rest of the world and many of their own citizens out of ignorance and poverty.

That sed, wot Johnny McNutso is endorsing here will prolly not achieve those ends and might end up provoking more anti-American sentiment than currently exists (hard as that might be to imagine).

Be Well.

PS: Will JohnBoy be inviting Bobbby Mugabe to this Democracy luff-fest?

ie. Define "Democracy"

I think that any evaluation of the UN needs to be a comparison of the world when the organization was begun and today. I don't think that anyone could realistically argue that some good has not been achieved, probably as much good as is possible considering the extreme diversity of nations and the competition for resources. I believe most people who WHINE about the UN do not have the vaguest idea of the magnitude of problems that the organization is asked to confront. Most Americans' complaints about the organization are really just angry reactions to the fact that the US can't just dictate to the UN and that even our enemies have a voice. It's sort of funny in a way, but those who consider themselves realists in their antipathy towards the UN are really looking for some utopian world that realists know does not and will not ever exist.

I wonder when Iraq will join that group?

Team Democracy-hell yeah!

Nah, just doesn't have it.

And T&C-what has the OIC accomplished? It's like the current British Commonwealth nations ( former colonies only)or the Francophonie (only French speaking nations). Some trade and a lot of excuses for travelling.

But any organization with saudialquedia in it is worth worrying about. You do remember 9-11, don't you?

I wonder when Iraq will join that group?

^_^

FF fer Danni.

Seriously gotsta eat now.

Be Well.

NG3 -- Unfortunately, I believe the OIC has successfully dissipated the most positive aims of the UN and deflected the organization's efforts toward a pro-Musl8m agenda. See my post of 3:38PM above and the links therein.

In its pursuit for gradual domnation of all things social, political and economic, the OIC is gaining considerable ground from where it was 60 years ago. In another 60 years, when Musl8m majorities dominate most of Europe's capital cities, I suspect that the OIC's agenda will be in full force. God help us all!

NG3 -- Unfortunately, I believe the OIC has successfully dissipated the most positive aims of the UN and deflected the organization's efforts, detouring it instead toward a pro-Musl8m agenda. See my post of 3:38PM above and the links therein.

In its pursuit for gradual domnation of all things social, political and economic, the OIC is gaining considerable ground from where it was 60 years ago. In another 60 years, when Musl8m majorities dominate most of

"Is that too old fashioned an idea?"

Led by the United States???

Yes that is too old fashioned.

Probably if all those Islamic nations have problems with the UN charter then we should amend that charter so that we end up with an organization of all nations not competing orgianizations which in the end are really alliances. That is not what the UN was set up to be. It needs to be a universally accepted forum not an alliance or police agency for the world.
BTW, McCain and Bush want to form an organization competitive with the UN while at the same time using UN resolutions as excuses for invading Iraq.
How else should Islamic nations view the UN when it was obviously used to our advantage in a war not about WMD but resources.

And in competition with that organization don't we also have NATO??? The single most powerful military alliance on the planet.

"YEAH!

Didn't need too!

You fags have already put it on paper!

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Posted by Redneckville

I can't believe you actually read that crap. lol

You especially liked the view right between Hannity's muscular legs, didn't you?

"You especially liked the view right between Hannity's muscular legs, didn't you?"

Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2008-05-30 03:54 PM

YEAH!

Dude --- that sounds so flamingly gay!
You do know that sort of stuff emanates from the inside don't you?
Frankly it never occurred to me ---- but obviously it was in the forefront of your mind!

"Frankly it never occurred to me ---- but obviously it was in the forefront of your mind!"

Posted by Redneckville

It never occurred to you that you were posting pics of Sean Hannity spread eagle?

Riiiiggghhht...

And the closet door slowly opens, and ReNeckVille bashfully peeks out...

We already had this: It was called the League Of Nations.

How is this different than the UN? Oh yeah, it's NOT!

"It never occurred to you that you were posting pics of Sean Hannity spread eagle?"

YEAH!

Didn't even notice! It's not like it's my artwork after all!

Are you saying it's a Gay comic book? Strangely, it all makes some sense now!

"Didn't even notice! It's not like it's my artwork after all!

Are you saying it's a Gay comic book? Strangely, it all makes some sense now!"

Posted by Redneckville

Nice try Red. I wasn't even aware that comic existed, until you posted all these pics to the tune of "you fags," and are now backpedaling and pretending there was nothing homosexual about it.

You actually found a comic of Hannity in tights, spread eagle, saying you didn't have to envision him in tights because of said comic.

Please, don't share the rest of your collection.

"It could act where the U.N. fails to act," he said last month, and pressure tyrants "with or without Moscow's and Beijing's approval."

Bashes the UN, Russia and China, all in the same sentence.

McSame is ahead of the curve on the GOP Re-Branding process. Ho-ho-ho !

You couldn't find enough democracies in favor of preemptive war to form a bowling league...

MCCAIN IS ON TO SOMETHING HERE.....maybe we should kick out the UN...and create orgaisation that does bussiness with democracies only....that will distant us from china....like so many people here want to do anyway.....sounds like a win...win

Is this like the "Superfriends

Meanwhile, at the League of Democracies ...

Meanwhile, at the League of Democracies ...

Superfriends?

League of Democracies?

Shouldn't that be Justice League of Democracies?

Pussies, the lot of them, sez Spud.

Kinda off topic but did anyone else manage to sit through the credits of "Iron Man" just in order to watch Samuel L Jackson as Nick Fury of SHIELD (Supreme Headquarters International Espionage Law-enforcement Division) inviting Iron Man to join 'em?

Definitely worth the wait!

Be Well.

And, there will be an Avengers movie.

UN needs to move,Somalia would be a good location

i wonder if Somalia will let the UN use Sovereign immunity

But why would the United States be accepted into such an organization? Spying on you, me, MLK, Hans Blitz (everyone), Rigged elections, rejection of the Nuremburg principals, unnecessary Wars of aggression, economic assassination of smaller countries such as Congo where a US Corporation pockets billions every year mining while paying miners 30 cents per day.

It would be nice if McCain weren't so receptive to so many ideas that don't matter, or are flat stupid. His carbon-cap-and-trade tripe from last week nearly gave me a heart attack. There might be four Americans living on this side of I-495 who give a damn about this silly "League of Democracies" idea.

McCain needs to spend less time showing everyone how he plans on working with liberals in Congress and in Paris, and more time telling America what he hopes to do on the nuts-and-bolts stuff like government spending, energy, Social Security, and entitlement reforms.

It would be nice if McCain weren't so receptive to so many ideas that don't matter, or are flat stupid.

Well, yes. Definitely true. However, when he talks about stuff he's supposed to an absolute expert it can be equally frustrating. His "We have drawn down to pre-surge levels" today being an example.

Have to give McCain credit where its due........

........it would be a good idea to differentiate between governments that serve their people & governments of criminals that make the people serve them.........

........big problem is that we are dependent on despotic dictatorships like Saudi for oil, and China for tupperware and the Walton family's prosperity........

........could we live without cheap shit if we isolate and embargo the dictatorships.?.......

One hundred democracies? I don't think so. A replay of the UN with Cuba taking care of human rights? The League of Nations did not work. The UN does not work. This isn't going to work. The first time there is trouble, the French are going to run. John McCain is totally brain dead.

George Bush is still trying to punish the United Nations.

John Bolton wasn't enough.