The genuine corky rears his head again, and again we all see his value......less postings.

I just saw this video, I am quite surprised with the "sensitivity" that is now in play, that someone would be so "insensitive". Which makes me wonder about Wright's motivations....

I imagine Wright doing this to get some leverage on Obama, he doesn't need this. So I expect Wright to get a call eventually........

I see "major" race speech #3 coming up. Maybe he should just divorce himself from the shitheads that run his church. Ha! Reparations for everyone!!

Obama & Co. are getting very good at apologizing. Shame that's not what's required to run this country.

I don't see any apologizing here from Obama. I see a CATHOLIC priest apologizing for his GUEST speaking engagement at the church.

It is truely humorous watching these righties go gahgah over what other people say and try an attribute it to Obama.

It was a CATHOLIC priest, maybe the bash should be at the pedophile supporting faith base organization that should be apologizing because now it appears they are sexists and racists.

So, is Obama a Muslim terror lover, a black separatist Protestant, or a radical Catholic socialist this week?

Will someone from the Right please read us this weeks character assassination memo?

Apparently the people of BHO's church do not have enough smarts to see this crap continues to hurt him. Now the news and blogs will be lit up with reverand clips for again.

Blah, blah, blah.
Here, tempest meet the teacup.
Get real.
Move on.

Here is the "banned " thread, lmfao

Your link wasn't banned. It made the user blogs page and back page until it scrolled off.

Agreed, there is nothing here, move on. This is no different than the people who want McCain to be responsible for what some pastor said. The pastor is responsible for what he said and no one else. This got-cha politics is tedeous.

I have said before, there are people who like to talk about other people and people who like to talk about ideas. I have always found the ones who talk about ideas to be much more interesting.

Let's talk about how to secure our borders or how to fix Social Security or Medicare/aid. How do we get out of Iraq and not leave it a bigger mess than it already is, etc.

Pastor gotcha is definitely getting tedious -- Wright, Hagee, Parsley and now this guy. It's too bad atheists can't get elected in this country.

More "Change We Can Believe In"

Shame that's not what's required to run this country.

Posted by cookfish

Yeah, judging by the last 8 years what's required is arrogance, ignorance and complete contempt for the American public and Constitutional Rights and Processes.


Pastor Slams Clinton at Obama's Church

He own's a church? That is one rich SOB. How many churches doesn McSame own?

Never in any campaign process have I heard so much supposed outrage over what someone who the candidate had no control over whatsover has said. I guess when you have nothing left to lose you play every shithole "issue" card that you have.

Pretty pathetic.

"Here is the "banned " thread, lmfao!!"

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid

LMFAO!!

"Imagine . . . no religion". JL
Works for me.

Pastor gotcha is definitely getting tedious -- Wright, Hagee, Parsley and now this guy. It's too bad atheists can't get elected in this country.

Posted by rcade

"no atheists in presidenthole?":>)

Blaming Whites for everything is red meat for the racists in this church and that includes Barack Obama and his wife. Obama is condescending to White folks in his speaches, but only a fool or a blind man refuse to see what a racist fucking pig Obama really is. Voters in West Virginia, Kentucky and Indiana know it though.

-It's too bad atheists can't get elected in this country.

It's too bad atheists have to be such great supporters of people who talk to their "imaginary friends in the sky", eh?

Obama sat for 20 years in this church that cheers and applauds whoever disses whitey from the pulpit, whether it is Rev Wright the new Senior Pastor, the new Pastor, or the visiting radical Catholic priest who was on Obama's website until.... woops!

It appears that the black racist milleu from which Obama comes is no more attractive, nor any more sane, than the white racist TV evangelist mob.

Obama is condescending to White folks in his speaches, but only a fool or a blind man refuse to see what a racist fucking pig Obama really is. Voters in West Virginia, Kentucky and Indiana know it though.

Posted by fwthom

Yea, he's down right upitty. He is well-spoken though.

So, is Obama a Muslim terror lover, a black separatist Protestant, or a radical Catholic socialist this week?

Will someone from the Right please read us this weeks character assassination memo?

Posted by silver_ironist at 2008-05-30 06:11 AM | Reply | Flag

. . . and very clean.

You aren't calling him, "articulate", are you?

Them's is fightin' words!

Maybe he should just divorce himself from the shitheads that run his church.

McSame, to his credit, did that once he used up the value of their endorsements.

Need i repeat, religion is a mental illness?

[prior drivel intentionally omitted]...but only a fool or a blind man refuse to see what a racist fucking pig Obama really is
Voters in West Virginia, Kentucky and Indiana know it though.

Posted by fwthom


PLEASE tell me that someone else sees how f-ing funny this is.

It's too bad atheists can't get elected in this country.

Posted by rcade

True. Maybe this event will finally be what makes that feasible.

Until then.... this is news.

At the same time, this guy knew exactly what the fallout would be.

Is he on Obama's side or what?

Sweet 8lb 6oz baby jesus!!

I guess there is no possible that Democrats could lose this election, right?


Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!!!!!

-Is he on Obama's side or what?


He just made himself famous as, "Obama's Priest".

But he was giving the audience what they really wanted, as was apparent from their cheering agreement.

How are you attributing a guest speaking CATHOLIC priest to Obama? Obama wasn't even there for goodness sake.

Low life troll hacker at its best lately.

Obama sat for 20 years in this church that cheers and applauds

So that means he automatically share exactly ALL the same views and opinions how?

My church has said things that I don't agree with yet I continue to support them. To beleive that Obama follows the word of this man lockstep is just plain folly.

You sound like Sean Hannity when you make a claim like this.

Forget corky for a moment, $war.

There are millions of people in this country FAR more over the top than corky. And alot of them vote, wether we like it or not.

This is bad news for Obama when he can't afford it.

Sweet 8lb 6oz baby jesus!!

Posted by Hagbard_Celine


LOL

Dear Lord baby Jesus, lyin' there in your ghost manger, just lookin' at your Baby Einstein developmental videos, learnin' 'bout shapes and colors.

Obama's 20 year old "crew", Rev Wright, Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers, Father Pfleger...... friends with whom not only does Obama have nothing in common, but longtime friends and mentors who one must now believe are the polar opposite of everything Obama claims to represent.

That is stretching credulity to the limit.

The American people will, of course, see them all in one GOP commercial in the fall. Ad nauseum.

How are you attributing a guest speaking CATHOLIC priest to Obama? Obama wasn't even there for goodness sake.

Low life troll hacker at its best lately.

Posted by moneywar


Pfleger was on every news outlet defendind Rev. Wright. Maybe more tinfoil on the rabbit ears would help.

UPDATE II: Father Pfleger writes to say, "I regret the words I chose on Sunday. These words are inconsistent with Senator Obama's life and message, and I am deeply sorry if they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else who saw them."

So what it doesn't mean shit. I fail to see any validity in trying to attribute someone elses words to Obama, it is just outright lying crap.

"On the negative, readers will see that a major theme of the book is the total disconnect between her faith and her stridency on abortion. She is not simply pro-choice but fanatically pro-choice. She will not compromise on any matter of abortion policy, from banning partial-birth abortions to supporting funding for ultrasound machines to backing legislation to protect babies injured in the womb by outside parties. She's to the left of everyone on this issue, including even her husband, who pro-lifers dubbed the Abortion President.'

"By the way, as a pro-choice Christian, she points to the lead of her denomination, the United Methodist Church, which is a member of the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice. The author of Roe v. Wade was a Methodist, and was invited to address Hillary's congregation by her pro-choice [pro-abortion] pastor at the historic Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington in 1995."

"I regret the words I chose on Sunday"

Yeah, I just bet he does..... now.

But he and the congregation and the Pastor seemed quite happy with those words on Sunday.

like "pet goat" audience was perhaps?

-more Mena?


What a VRWC maroon!

and why does this matter? well let me tell you.

this is the church family of barry hussein obama and if he is so pious and religious and a regular member of this church FOR TWENTY YEARS, then it is apparent that he has been exposed and his CHILDREN are exposed to this for that time and if he REALLY doesnst agree or thinks its okay, then did anyone ever think that he could have left like oprah, I believe it was. but no, he stayed which shows us that AT THE VERY LEAST, he stayed there ONLY to show the blacks there that he was black and not white or even off white......and so how does that affect his ability to be the president? well it could show that he will do anything for power and that should solidify his standing in the democrat liberal socialist party that is today's democrat.

the previous post is damn well written and HEY LOOKY ALEX>>>>>>JUST FOR YOU.....I believe it was.......there is only one small part with periods..........just for you and your pet peeve.....

you are welcome........

Maybe he should just divorce himself from the shitheads that run his church.

He did. It's been his former church ever since the last pastor eruption.

"Mena"

What a VRWC maroon!


Posted by Corky



VRWC +

Maroon (people) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia When runaway slaves banded together and subsisted independently they were called Maroons.

?

You all seriously think this is a RIGHTIE expose'?

This is just the media trying to find a conflict on the Dem side, or possibly another desperate Clinton asshat trying to throw more sheeha to see if any of it will stick.

An old ultraconservative visiting from out of town and I saw this on the Today Show and laughed. He made some good points. He's probably crazy but that was funny.

Only Corky believed Hillary's tears.

And maybe BuffaloBob's spacealien guests.

What did Obama ever do to have his church turn on him like this?

Makes Wright seem sane by comparison.

Only Corky believed Hillary's tears.

And maybe BuffaloBob's spacealien guests.

Posted by kirk at 2008-05-30 10:40 AM | Reply

I believed her tears, too. I just don't believe they flowed forth for the stated reasons. I also believe that Hillary does have a sense of entitlement. Where this priest erred, in my opinion, was by putting it in a racial context. I think Hillary's sense of entitlement is not due to any idea of racial superiority. Rather, Hillary has become overly accustomed to having people kiss her ass and tell her she's wonderful without justification. They reality of her "inevitable" candidacy -- and presidency -- biting the dust is too much to bear at times.

But wait....

Here's the funny part. The person that should have been the rethug nominee, Mitt Romney couldn't get the vote because he was..gasp..a mormon.

And we all know how evil those damn mormons are.

Get ready folks, this is the kind of shit you get in a theocracy.

What did Obama ever do to have his church turn on him like this?

I've been amazed by how dumb the church's leaders have been. One of their parishioners has a chance to be the next president of the United States, and Wright and now this guest speaker are courting controversy and inflaming people. You'd think they, of all people, would be invested in Obama's success.

I don't share the opinion that this church renders Obama unfit in any manner to be president, any more than I'd dismiss a Catholic candidate because his church was implicated in sex abuse.

But I do think it makes him look a little dumb for associating with these clowns.

The person that should have been the rethug nominee, Mitt Romney couldn't get the vote because he was..gasp..a mormon.

I think it had more to do with Romney's wooden personality and his unconvincing transformation from a social moderate who could win in Massachusetts to a right-winger who could win the party's presidential nod.

He did. It's been his former church ever since the last pastor eruption.

Posted by rcade at 2008


Well, you are correct, of course, oh GODFATHER of the blog, but lets be more specific. Its his former church, since HE GOT CAUGHT.

(damn....another post with little or no dots. how bout that? and with even some capitol letters and everything.)

>>>Agreed, there is nothing here, move on. This is no different than the people who want McCain to be responsible for what some pastor said. The pastor is responsible for what he said and no one else. This got-cha politics is tedeous.

Wrong!!It's very different. The pastors that endorsed McCain were not McCain's pastors, part of his church or part of his campiagn team. They were simply people who endorsed him.

Wright was part of Obama's campaign team as was this Pfleger. Both men have a long history with Obama.

How can that not be troubling? How can Obama's judgement not be called into question? Are we to believe that Wright and Pfleger - who are SO adament in their hate and bigotry - never said anything like this ever before and Obama never heard any of it ever before? Hard to believe. Why would Obama be around people like this for so long? Why would be include them in his inner circle of confidants? Why isn't this a legitmate issue to consider?

Maybe more tinfoil on the rabbit ears would help.

Posted by wisgod

lol

I see some hard core Obama fans can't see how this reflects on Obama. True, Obama didn't say these things. But it is most likely he has heard the same rhetoric himself, him being a member for 20 years and all.


And obviously this type of speech is nothing new to the church. Did you see the people sitting behind Pfleger and the shots from out in the congregation? Many were standing and cheering him on. And the new pastor introduced the man as one of OUR brothers, so he is not new to this church.

If Obama has truly wanted to bring everyone together, he should have severed relations with this church years ago. OR he should have begun right there at home with his pastor and fellow members of the congregation.

I think it had more to do with Romney's wooden personality and his unconvincing transformation from a social moderate who could win in Massachusetts to a right-winger who could win the party's presidential nod.

Posted by rcade

You know, I wonder why this was a problem for him. When I take a job, I commit to doing what the boss wants of me. When I take another job, its the same thing... even if those responsibilities change dramatically from job to job.

He probably would've been the conservative his party wanted him to be; it would be what the boss required.
I guess we still expect to be pandered to, but convincingly, so we can lie to ourselves with less effort (i.e. "he's more than just a politician, he's more than just a politician..."). Shame.

But I do think it makes him look a little dumb for associating with these clowns.

Posted by rcade


as you might be for associating with us:>)

Tony459,
Wrong! McCain ASKED FOR Hagees endorsement AFTER Hagee made his many remarks...the nazis were actually just doing Gods work, the Catholic church is a whore, etc.
No, I am not defending this latest Obama issue. I am just enlightening you on the facts.

as you might be for associating with us:>)

Posted by Bani

LOL, I am simultaneously happy for the blogging world and sad for ol' rcade when he does. It's why I try to keep the profanity out of my posts... though I do throw in lots of redacteds.

Bani,

Whether McCain asked for Hagee's endorsement or not - it was still, simply an endorsement. You can call it political BS if you like, but I can't see how it can be considered the same level of involement as Wright/Pfleger has with Obama...

How do they keep their tax exempt status while preaching politics.

Nothing Here Remember Obama Is A Muslim Elitist Socialist, So This Crazy Christians Mean Nothing....

The Fonding Fathers Were 100% Correct So All You Pray And School And Religious Fanatics Please Be Thankful To Them !!!

-Sarge

How do they keep their tax exempt status while preaching politics.

Posted by Sniper

I was totally asking myself that same thing.

Tony459,
I wasn't comparing, just clarifing. It's not like McCain just got Hagees endorsement out of thin air. Again, he asked for it to establish some cred with the religious right, after calling the religious right all sorts of names in the past. He's a hypocrite and a panderer...just like any other politician.

But I do think it makes him look a little dumb for associating with these clowns.

Posted by rcade


as you might be for associating with us:>)

Posted by Bani at 2008-


ah good one and I concur.....

How do they keep their tax exempt status while preaching politics.

Posted by Sniper at 2008-05-30 11:33 AM


Good Question

-Sarge

How do they keep their tax exempt status while preaching politics.

Posted by Sniper



its real simple for anyone not afraid of being called names.
its a predominantly black church. and look at the churches which have been looked at or under investigation. I dont believe there are more than one if any 'black' churches being looked at.
and then there is always the national association for the advancement of LIBERAL colored people.......THAT would be a great place to start...and YES......include each and every megachurch in that investigation..

and I feel compelled to add. in this particular case, I would be willing to bet that the high profile and high ranking members of chicago politics and like that who are members also plays a big part in the whole thing.....people of any and all colors, in other words.

- It's been his former church ever since the last pastor eruption.

He is still a member of this church, and Rev Wright is the Senior Pastor of this church.

"too bad atheists can't get elected in this country.

Posted by rcade at 2008-05-30 08:45 AM "

Let's send them the book, "How to pray to be elected.". That might help.

Voters in West Virginia, Kentucky and Indiana know it though.

Posted by fwthom


PLEASE tell me that someone else sees how f-ing funny this is.



Posted by midiman


...or just plain stupid! But then what do you really expect from one of the biggest ignoramuses on the DR?

"You sound like Sean Hannity when you make a claim like this."

And you sound like Olbermann when you defend him.

Voters in West Virginia, Kentucky and Indiana know it though.

Posted by fwthom

these backwater states do not help your argument.

these backwater states do not help your argument.

Posted by fresno500

They're going to help somebody in November though to be sure. Best to remember that, regardles of what Fairly Worthless Thom has to say about it.

He is still a member of this church, and Rev Wright is the Senior Pastor of this church.

That's not what I read in another article this morning. Thank you for so vigilantly policing the pews, Corky. Be sure to let us know the next time somebody at this church says something that might offend someone somewhere. Or any other church that Obama attended after he left the madrassa.

"Wrong!!It's very different. The pastors that endorsed McCain were not McCain's pastors, part of his church or part of his campiagn team. They were simply people who endorsed him.

Posted by tony459 at 2008-05-30 11:05 AM"

McCain SOUGHT these endorsements. It's not like the endorsements from those hateful fuckers were thrust upon him against his will, he ASKED for their endorsements.

Soooo, perhaps the old saw about not believing everything you read in the newspaper still holds digitally, eh?

- Be sure to let us know the next time somebody at this church says something that might offend someone somewhere

Yeah, like this didn't.

-Or any other church that Obama attended after he left the madrassa.

This petulance doesn't become you. Or maybe it does.

But I guess having yet another Pastoral Bimbo Eruption for your candidate must be rather annoying.

What did Obama ever do to have his church turn on him like this?

He turned on Wright.

How do they keep their tax exempt status while preaching politics.

They can't endorse a candidate.

He turned on Wright.
Posted by YAV

Compared to this other psycho, I think Obama would've done better to stand by Wright.

Yeah, endorsing a candidate is one thing, and tearing down the only competition is another. that's a neat little legal loophole.

This petulance doesn't become you. Or maybe it does.

It's funny as hell, Corky. It's not like any of this stuff is going to help Clinton. After a certain point, you just have to sit back and marvel at the way so many Democrats are bound and determined to destroy their own nominee, just to turn Clinton's 0.1 percent chance of winning into a 0.2 percent chance.

The race is over. You are working for McCain now.

"McCain SOUGHT these endorsements."
--MONTECORE

Which is a far cry from naming a book after one of their sermons, letting them baptize your kids, and sitting in the pews bleating like a sheep for over 20 years, like Obama did in Pastor Wright's church.

That church should have its tax free status revoked if it is going to be a political organization instead of a religious organization. I think the video should stand in proof of their political status.

Pastor gotcha is definitely getting tedious -- Wright, Hagee, Parsley and now this guy. It's too bad atheists can't get elected in this country.

Amen!

The race is over. You are working for McCain now.

Strewth.

Rather than promoting his ostensible candidate Corky's tendencies to try and diminish Obama's candidacy merely results in another blog-victory fer Camp McCain.

Corky's continued belief that another grab at the BushCo/ClintCo pseudo-monarchy brass ring will somehow net another result other than "more of the same" is as laughable as it is sad.

The reality here is that policies of the two remaining Dem candidates are 95% similar in goals if not in process. The vast majority of the Dem base are alligned strongly against the wrong-headed policies of the BushCo years and rightly so.

The other reality here is that the legendarily lock-step GOPhers are now in massive dissaray. The religious wingnuts know that McCain is not one of them, although he has more recently been kow-towing towards their mad-assed agenda. What's left of the fiscally responsible GOPhers, the so-called fiscal conservatives on the right, are aghast at McCain's open-ended commitment towards the Trillion dollar plus debacle in Iraq. The hawks are, of course, satisfied that the MIC will continue to get greased but those numbers won't carry an election.

All that sed, ...on topic?

Meh, this is just yet another media manufactured pseudo controversy that only counts fer shit if you are a total moron.

Do preacher folk say some crazy shit on any given Sunday?

No shit, Sherlock.

Does that fact in any way, shape or form provide a basis fer disqualifying a candidacy?

No.

The real issues like universal healthcare, growing inequity, the criminality of the BushCo regime, the economy and the war (all inextricably linked, btw) get lost in the shuffle with all these manufactured moments taking up too much media space.

Pfleger's essential point (poorly made) that Hillary operates from a sense of entitlement is quite correct. This is where her facade of "inevitability" arose from in fact.

Trying to make this a race-based argument was essentially where he inserted his foot in his own mouth here.

Now can we talk about sommat important?

The corporate MSM continues to spin the "Obama as neo-phyte" meme as much as they can.

The idea that "experience" in DC does not equate to corporate co-option and even corruption simply doesn't enter into the picture with them.

It should.

08ama '08

Be Well.

/As ya do
stage left.

That church should have its tax free status revoked if it is going to be a political organization instead of a religious organization. I think the video should stand in proof of their political status. Buffalo_Bob

Where have all you concerned right wing nuts been the last decade? The religious right, Falwell, 700 Club,etc. have their tax free status, but that is OK.

Right=Major Hypocrites

"Corky's continued belief that another grab at the BushCo/ClintCo pseudo-monarchy brass ring will somehow net another result other than "more of the same" is as laughable as it is sad."
DETHSPUD

So the Clinton years were no better than the last 8?

How is that more of the same? Or are you just dishonestly shilling for Obama?

"Where have all you concerned right wing nuts been the last decade? The religious right, Falwell, 700 Club,etc. have their tax free status, but that is OK.

Right=Major Hypocrites"

Posted by navyvet50

Boob's not right wing.

And if you're not going to be a hypocrit NavyVet, you better start calling for Trinity's tax free status to be revoked like I'm sure you were for all of the right wing churches.

hypocrit=hypocrite

-bound and determined to destroy their own nominee, just to turn Clinton's 0.1 percent chance of winning into a 0.2 percent chance.

I never really understood where 101 and others got the idea of using the term "pants-pissers" for liberals in general, but I think it has become apparent during this race.

We get yet another Pastoral Bimbo Eruption from the same pulpit that brought us Rev Wright, and the Obambots pee themselves when it is talked about, closing tight their eyes and covering their ears, if not their mouths, in silent, unquestioning acceptance of all things Obama.

Pretty scary, really.


-The race is over. You are working for McCain now.

Fuck you and the blog you rode in on. If you are too tender in certain places to be further exposed to anything but praise for your candidate, I suggest you find a hobby other than politics.

If your candidate is so fragile as to be unable to withstand the near kid gloves treatment he has gotten from most Dems, he will shatter like glass when the GOP gets a hold of him.

If your candidate is so fragile as to be unable to withstand the near kid gloves treatment he has gotten from most Dems, he will shatter like glass when the GOP gets a hold of him.


You guys deride the Corky Doctrine (TM), but the man has a good point.

-Rather than promoting his ostensible candidate Corky's tendencies to try and diminish Obama's candidacy merely results in another blog-victory fer Camp McCain.

Read the post to Rogers and insert your name at the appropriate points.

-Corky's continued belief that another grab at the BushCo/ClintCo pseudo-monarchy brass ring

That seemingly intelligent plant life should be so deluded as think that there is any comparison between Clinton and Bush on just about any issue, or that Obama is left of Clinton in any significant way, is a very sad thing to behold.

As a matter of fact, since Obama takes money from lobbyist's wives instead of lobbyists, and since he doesn't have a universal health care plan, he seems the less conscionable of the two.


What I get from all this "pants-pissing" is the smell of fear from Obamites that something, like another look in Obama's over sized closet, will happen to derail their hero.

Since that is not really likely in the next week or so, perhaps what I smell is the fear that half of Dems will be proven correct, that Obama will be a bust either against McCain or as President.

Nothing worse than the smell of old urine-soaked pants.

"Nothing worse than the smell of old urine-soaked pants. Posted by Corky"

Then take them off your head.

Ah, The San Anphonio Rose chimes in with yet another example of how the witless ARE still able to type.

Ooh. Burn. Not.

and if rush was right this morning, the rnc has a video of michel obama on this pulpit ranting about whitey and how he has kept the brothers down......IF its true, it will be bad news
for the messiah mainly because it will show that he didnt just SIT there and disagree with the racists sermons of jwright. it will show that his family participated in that classwarfare racial hatred.
and you here on the retort will have a hard time with that.

lucy will have sum splaining to do......

How are you attributing a guest speaking CATHOLIC priest to Obama? Obama wasn't even there for goodness sake.


Monte--

The Plfegar guy is just not your guest speaker.

He is/was on Obama's Spiritual Advisory committee on OBAMA CAMPAIGN!

He was taken off the web site as he was let go --just like Wright.

And Obama set him an earmark for 100k to his church--from the SENATE.

And of course the Pflegar guy is a backer of Farrakhan.

The church is bad enough--but Obama surrounds himself with despicable people.

At least admit it !!

Murphy

Fuck you and the blog you rode in on. If you are too tender in certain places to be further exposed to anything but praise for your candidate, I suggest you find a hobby other than politics.

Sheesh. You just started working for McCain and you're already a hothead.

a) to begin with I am too lazy to read this entire thread so what I am about to say may have been said by someone else. However:

"I am entitled, I am Bill's wife, I am white and along comes Barack Obama, Damn, a black man takes it away from me"

a) If I am to be completely and utterly honest, I actually laughed.

b) Isn't that what most of the posters on this board, daily kos, whereever else have been saying for months? Hillary simple felt she was entitled, it was her turn, she had earned it, she was the presumptive nominee, she had it in the bag, there was no need for a plan for after super tuesday cause she would be the nominee. Then along comes Obama, an uppity young black man who has no idea about waiting his turn, about how it is all about me. HOW DARE HE! I think the priest said basically what alot of people in the blogosphere have been saying since February.

So another person Obama has known for 20 years says stuff that blames whitey for the woes of the black man and trashes Hillary?

Naw, Barry has never heard that kind of talk before.

okey dokey

Corky, I have friend who could have used her enormous abilities to be a potential new Hillary's lover in order to get close to Bill ~ a long time dream of hers ~ & go from there.

Isn't it more fun to now to be bashing all the 'radical' main stream black churchs instead playing the other sort of Huma guessing game?:>)

Posted by rcade at 2008-05-30 11:01 AM

I think it had more to do with Romney's wooden personality ...

... and his unconvincing transformation from a social moderate who could win in Massachusetts to a right-winger who could win the party's presidential nod.

Insofar as churches retaining their tax-exempt status while participating in politics is concerned, this may be attributable to an iteration of previous responses.

During the heady days of the civil rights movement when the black churches were in the vanguard, a laxity in enforcement of the statutes was de rigeur as the mood of the country supported the effort. Now that there has been a use of the churches in ordinary political situations, oversight may become considerably more rigorous.

Will Trinity be investigated and punished if it is appropriate? Or will "the authorities" be circumspect as black voters constitute such an influential political force, which no one wishes to alienate. Or are the forces so polarized nowadays that some faction will pursue this matter? Hmm. Is it "the law," or is it "the politics?"

The blackness of the darkness of the no-day, all-nightness. 'Tis a wonderment, yea, verily, a wonder to behold when oneself be of a beholding mood and in a beholding mode, just hanging out, as it were, on the down low, doing what one does at such times. To wit: beholding. There, my friends, am I. More to the point, there, my brothers and sisters, are you. We are the beholders. Beholding that which is to be beheld.

And what, pray tell, is beholding but an act that we, as homo sapiens sapiens--a designation arrived at long before the homosexuals invaded our planet and sought to take it over form the right thinkers--and act that we, as human beings, carry out in our role as, well, peoples?

Yes, beholding is what we beholders do. Day in, day out. The sun rises and we behold. The sun crosses the the big blue in his chariot of fire and we behold. The sun moves toward his rest along the eastern horizon and, still, we behold. When the sun climbs down from his chariot of fire, unhooks his ponies, puts on his jammies, has a warm cup of cocoa and nestles down in his cot for the night--and just before he blows out the candle--we behold.

We are the beholderers.

Sincerely,
~John's Son

"It's too bad atheists can't be elected in this country...."

RCADE, while I would vote for an atheist, I've seen enough to know a world full of atheists wouldn't have to effect you're seeking.

"You're working for McCain now...."

That's just a mind trip. It's the name-calling and disrespect from one side to the other that's an issue, not a political process that was frankly intended to do exactly what it's doing this moment.

I respect most Clinton supporters, but a zealous few have long past crossed the line into being constant attack dogs who will promote any attempt to denigrate Obama, no matter who it comes from.

Their cynical attacks on Obama are no different than the Lee Atwater-led effort to destroy Dukakis in 1988. It's scorched-earth politics that only cares about winning, not the cost of the tactics necessary to win, and it has no place in my party. If some of these folks are so alienated by Clinton's defeat that they leave the Democratic Party, we'll be better off in their absence.

People think I'm completely in the tank for Obama, but I'm still at heart a Biden guy who tried without success to find a reason to back Clinton. Ultimately I decided Obama was a better candidate who has a chance to be a game-changer in Washington and get beyond the excesses of 50-plus-1 Bush/Clinton government. I don't think of Obama as a messianic figure. My brief infatuation with the idea he was a new breed of politician ended months ago. I just think he's an intelligent leader with a new approach who deserves support.

When I criticize people like Corky for actively working against the presumptive nominee with the degree of vitriol they employ, I'd take the same position if the candidates were reversed and Obama supporters were trying to bring her down.

At a certain point in any primary, the losers gotta get behind the winners if they agree with the Democratic agenda. Obama and Clinton are virtually indistinguishable on policy, save for her early support for the Iraq war and some recent bellicosity against Iran.

Yes, beholding is what we beholders do. Day in, day out. The sun rises and we behold. The sun crosses the the big blue in his chariot of fire and we behold. The sun moves toward his rest along the eastern horizon and, still, we behold. When the sun climbs down from his chariot of fire, unhooks his ponies, puts on his jammies, has a warm cup of cocoa and nestles down in his cot for the night--and just before he blows out the candle--we behold.

We are the beholderers.

Sincerely,
~John's Son

Posted by Doc_Sarvis


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-the degree of vitriol they employ,

-I'd take the same position if the candidates were reversed and Obama supporters were trying to bring her down.


How laughable.

The degree of vitriol proffered here on a minute by minute basis by your numerous precious Obambots dwarfs anything I have ever posted.

I post mainly mainstream stories from mainstream sources that attract attack trolls who I treat as I am treated.

Were you to have actually stood up to the vitriol against Clinton as it built on this site over the last year, instead of kowtowing to it, perhaps the pendulum would have never swung as far in the other direction.

I wonder if Obama will choose to be sworn in with an Koran instead of a Bible

If Obama gets elected will he give the 20 million illegal immigrants free healthcare????????????