Except for the whole "winning" thing.

Snnnnooooorrrrttt Phewww

Good coke!

Please somebody, anybody shut this fucker up. Can he embarrass himself anymore SHUT THE FUCK UP.

historical revisionism - for idiots.

Let's see, Japan actually attacked us and Germany actually attacked our bestest buddies.

Iraq attack..no wait, they were friends with the ones that atacked..no wait, they , they, they, have the oil, yea that's it, they have the oil. Just like ww1 and 2.

"Please somebody, anybody shut this fucker up. Can he embarrass himself anymore SHUT THE FUCK UP."

Posted by celisary at 2008-05-28 06:27 PM

You've got to love it! Whenever the lefties on this site start spewing their hate, you know the righties have hit a home run. In this case, Bush is right. If we act accordingly, a strong ally will be the result.

I guess those of you on the left would rather us leave the middle east in chaos (much like the Democratic party).

Heard today Bush is going to insist -- even said we "owed it" to Iraq and Afghanistan
-- to make sure the U.S. will rebuild both those countries.

I agree with Bush that we own Iraq to at least put it back to pre-Bush bomb days infrastructure which was 100 times better than Bush has left it today.

But, and I'm not kidding, before one cent of my U.S. tax dollars is spent in Iraq, Bush, Cheney, and all of their Neocon warprofiteering buddies responsible for false intel, lying, and foisting their illegal war in Iraq on both the American and the Iraqi people must FIRST empty their OWN personal bank accounts, cash in all their stocks mutual funds, and liquidate every single personal asset they own and put their own blood money FIRST into rebuilding Iraq before any U.S. taxpayers contribute another dime.

Americans are fed up with our own crumbling infrastructure in this country, schools that need computers for the kids, and no money alloted to help fix so many needed things here. And I don't blame the Iraqi people because it was Bush, Cheney, and the rest of them that destroyed Iraq.

REASON FOR BUSH'S STATEMENT WE MUST REBUILD IRAQ?

Because even though Bush -- THANK GOD! -- will no longer be President after this November, he and Cheney and the rest of their scummy war profiteers want to make sure it's guaranteed their very lucrative Iraq war no bid, cost plus, reconstruction contracts continue in Iraq for at least another 30 years -- no matter who happens to be President.

Only a fool could not see that is Bush's motive. Surely you don't think it's because Bush cares about repairing the deplorable living situations he has caused for the Iraqi people, do you?

One young soldier commented that the new construction he saw being built in Iraq was if it happened to be being built on one of our military bases over there. The war reconstruction contracts Bush has been handing out are not required to show building and projects having been completed or finished.

Where are the damn Democrats???? Congressman Henry Waxman (D) seems to be the only one who demands an accounting for where our taxpayer billions are going over in Iraq and he is blocked on his investigations every time he insists on finding out.

Please somebody, anybody shut this fucker up. Can he embarrass himself anymore SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Posted by celisary at 2008-05-28 06:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

....now you have been reduced to talking to yourself........

If we had become involved in Iraq and that involvement proved to be for the reasons stated. no one would have any problem. Because this moron lied his damned head off to get us in, many of the country's people have had all of the involvement they want. This is not a lack of nerve or unpatriotic. Bush needs to stop placing the people of this country that don't agree with him in the catagory of traitors or cowards.

In this case, Bush is right. If we act accordingly, a strong ally will be the result.


This will never happen. We've created a strong ally for Iran.

I guess those of you on the left would rather us leave the middle east in chaos

The middle east has been in chaos for centuries. We will never fix it because those people know no different. Saddam exerted the only type of control the Iraqis understand. BushCo has only managed to make it more chaotic. Isolate the goat fuckers and let them live in their own chaos. It's their problem.

The man has delusions of grandeur.

God the Right Wingers of today are some delusional folks. Can You sink ANY lower. Thank God My hands are clean of this. Can't say the same for You guys however. That Lady MacBeth syndrome(Thanks Danforth) is a royal bitch. Suck it up Bushites. OWN Your support of Him.

Larry Mohr

"...the left would rather ... leave the middle east in chaos ..."

The right, after all, GOT the Mideast into chaos. After all, the Mideast had the oil. I'm not sure that it's up to the thinkin' folks to clean up the mess. herm

I remember the Boy Blunder saying we weren't in the nation rebuilding business.

Gotta be the coke.

Bush is like bluto

was it over when the germans bombed pearl harbor?

Was it over when the iraqis hit us on 9.11?

Toga Toga Toga Toga

Current Wars Are Like WW II


and Afghanistanian Coke Rules....

Bush does Hitler!!!

Bush is Right! Hitler instigated the second world war in Europe and the Middle East and exactly like Hitler,Dubya Bush instigated the Iraq and Afghan wars and maybe before he's through,an Iran war to boot!
In fact one of the predictions of Nostradamus was that after the 2nd Anti Christ Hister (Hitler) would come the 3rd anti Christ "Mabus" which is probably a combo of Ma for McCain and bus for Bush!!!

was it over when the germans bombed pearl harbor?

Was it over when the iraqis hit us on 9.11?

Posted by truthhurts

Is that when we had 57 states? Is that when the little 0s uncle was in the red army and liberated that death camp in Poland?

Bush is right. If we act accordingly, a strong ally will be the result.


worked well in saudi arabia and Kuwait. You can tell by the lack of saudi jihadists and the large saudi and kuwaiti military contingents in Iraq.
That and their great efforts to stop themselves from funding wahabist imams around the world.

Bush was suckered into this war by the Iranian government, through their man Chalabi and their organization, the Iraqi national Congress. Now we're backing the mehdi army, an arm of Iran.
What is it with Republican Presidents working for the mad ayatollahs?

Bush is delusional.

It's sad because i think he really believes it.

Bush watched WWII on the discovery channel once. I think that's also the extent of his involvement in Iraq.

But first we gotta hit Iran. Then we can rebuild both in our own image. Won't cost much, since these countries have enough oil to pay for their own reconstruction.

Comparing the antics of BushCo to the responsibilities and stakes which shaped our WWII effort is ludicrous. The country teamed up, invented and built the tools of war. Bush laid the burden and profits on a few, while sticking his own head up his ass.

BushCo is the Military Industrial Complex on crack. For all the hi-tech waste, carnage and death he has spread, Nothing except Corporate profits have emerged. Oh, but that's not just the main point, its the only point. Kill for Christ.

In WWII we knew who the enemy was, and yes the enemy was clear.

Was WWII about religion and oil. Huh?

Bush needs to stop placing the people of this country that don't agree with him in the catagory of traitors or cowards.
Posted by keith204

Agreed, and people need to refute the label.

Almost a trillion dollars, five years and 4000 dead soldiers later and NOW we need to spend money on rebuilding?

No thanks.

i wish this tool would stfu..

Every war is kind of like other wars. This particular analogy is a poor choice, especially when one considers that Bush had his chance to reconstruct Iraq a la Japan/Germany, and he fucked it up. If anything, Iraq shows what Germany would have been like if instead of John C. Marshall, Truman had sent over one of his buddies from his haberdasher days in Missouri.

If Bush was really interested in a post-WWII type of conversion, maybe he should have actually read up on how it was acheived. Then maybe we could have been spared the endless "no one could have foreseen X".

But don't expect Bush or Cheney to shell out anything for their fuckup. NOOOOOOO, it's up to the stupid powerless taxpayers to pick up the tab.

Bush watched WWII on the discovery channel once. I think that's also the extent of his involvement in Iraq.

Posted by Alexandrite

This is not so.

If you look at the signature at the bottom of the bill(s) appropriating the money for Iraq, you will find the crayon signature of our fearful leader "Shrubbie the First".*

*Shrubbie just got his very first 112 different color crayon set!

WTF??

HOW is this one like WWII?

That time, we:

Went to war based on good intelligence.

Congress and the President worked together.

A strong, healthy domestic industrial base was converted to production of war materiel.

The reasons for going to war were clear-cut; attack of our forces in the Pacific theatre, and occupation of our allies' homelands in the European.

Ways were devised to make most Americans feel part of the war effort, even if it was illusory in some cases.

Sacrifices like rationing were asked of everyone.

Japanese Americans were treated with a total disregard for their rights- wait.

That's what he meant. We're all Nisei now.

MTW,

You missed an important point: during wartime, a member of the president's own party---Truman--chased down war profiteers.

See, back then, bilking one's country during wartime was considered shameful. My, how times have changed.

from northguy3: "worked well in saudi arabia and Kuwait. You can tell by the lack of saudi jihadists..."

Are you insane?

American Airlines Flight 11:
Mohamed Atta (Egyptian)
Waleed al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian)
Wail al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian)
Abdulaziz al-Omari (Saudi Arabian)
Satam al-Suqami (Saudi Arabian)

United Airlines Flight 175:
Marwan al-Shehhi (United Arab Emirates)
Fayez Banihammad (United Arab Emirates)
Mohand al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian)
Ahmed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian)
Hamza al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian)

American Airlines Flight 77:
Hani Hanjour (Saudi Arabian)
Khalid al-Mihdhar (Saudi Arabian)
Majed Moqed (Saudi Arabian)
Nawaf al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian)
Salem al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian)

United Airlines Flight 93:
Ziad Jarrah (Lebanese)
Ahmed al-Haznawi (Saudi Arabian)
Ahmed al-Nami (Saudi Arabian)
Saeed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian)

WilliamJ - Why waste your time typing when you can easily eliminate your whole list of so-called terrorists by inserting the real ones as follows:

"911 Instigated by the CIA & Mossad!!!"

WilliamJ Must not have heard of sarcasm. NorthGuy3 is one of the smart ones around here not a dumb one just a FYI

Larry Mohr

Bush: Current Wars Are Like WW II

We also had a top income tax rate of 90% to pay for the wars and rebuilding, you gonna do that as well righties?

That's right, I didn't think so.

726,

We didn't come close to paying for WWII during the war. We did that after the war by selling stuff to all the industial countries which were wiped out.

I like this article. Bush is right. McClellan is also right, albeit his attack seems to be a little late and a little obvious and a little politically-motivated. Nevertheless, a good and pertinant article.

We didn't come close to paying for WWII during the war.

I guess that would explain all them "War Bond" drives. Those war bonds had to be paid off through taxes. My point was that the war effort was eventually paid for, unlike this time where the war cost is "someone else's problem".

Sorry you didn't see that.

Never in the US history has the government broadly cut taxes while engaging in a war. It is almost as if the administration is saying that the war is not important enough to pay for, to supply properly or to staff properly through a draft. And if it is not that important, why fight it?

we actually tried to win ww 2 and people in general
knew we had to------we have to win this one but people think losin won't effect them
jasman

I really can't stand poor historical analogies...

It would be one thing if he brought up the US occupation of the Philippines, which actually does have some striking similarities to our involvement in Iraq.

But to bring up WWII, that's a real stretch. I don't think it could be any different than our occupation of Iraq.

How long has Israel been fighting terrorists?

How do you defeat a tactic?

How do you defeat a faceless enemy with no borders and no governing body?

When you righties figure that out, let me know. Oh and let bush know too, since he doesn't have a friggin clue.

WWII had a definied enemy with a defined goal. Just how are the current wars the same?

Only in Bushlings coked out mind.

**** Never in the US history has the government broadly cut taxes while engaging in a war. It is almost as if the administration is saying that the war is not important enough to pay for, to supply properly or to staff properly through a draft. And if it is not that important, why fight it?

Posted by 726 *****

........no good reason at all.......

Where's OSAMA BIN LADEN?

Yeah, I love getting taught History lessons by a C student who failed to show up to history class and couldn't tell the difference between a shia and sunni muslum.

236 days ... can we make it?


"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 28, 2008

Just like WW2, you say?

Just what are the similarities between Germany and Japan with their massive and efficient militaries and industrial bases and a toothless Iraqi miltary under Saddam with a puny industrial base weakened by years of sanctions?

What exactly are the similarities between Roosevelt and Truman and Bush and Cheney. They were all males but I can't think of anything else.

How about the reluctance of the right to enter WW2 and how they just couldn't wait to go kick some Iraqi ass?

Why didn't FDR attack China when it was Japan who attacked us at Pearl Harbor?

etc. etc

WE`D BE BETTER OFF IF HE KEEPS SNORTING COKE....

WWII had a definied enemy with a defined goal. Just how are the current wars the same?

Only in Bushlings coked out mind.

~726


Hey no fair thinking beyond the catch phrases!
~Neo Nitwits

"We didn't come close to paying for WWII during the war."

But we did end up paying it off, under the Bush plan for financing the war we pay only the interest and it is eating up a larger portion of the overall budget every year....just to pay the interest.
The Bush tax cut was the most unpatriotic act I have witnessed in my life time and the greedy Republicans who supported him because of it while they did realize the harm his policies were doing to the nation are virtual traitors, and there are many who fit that description.

The Bush tax cut was the most unpatriotic act I have witnessed in my life time and the greedy Republicans who supported him because of it while they did realize the harm his policies were doing to the nation are virtual traitors, and there are many who fit that description.

childish babble Danni. Anybody who accepted the tax break "supported" it as far as I'm concerned.

How do you define "supported him"?

It just doesn't bear thinking about if Bush and Cheney had been in charge in 1941.

"No, Mr. President. The Japanese and Chinese are not the same."

"No, Mr Vice President. Those companies you worked for and have investments in cannot have no-bid contracts".

Patton, McArthur and Eisenhower would have been fired for not agreeing with everything El Supremo said and didn't do. There would have been no alliance with the godless Commies. Women would not have been allowed to do war work and everybody's sexuality and religious beliefs would have been closely monitored. Churchill would have drunk yet more brandy and smoked yet more cigars after days of trying to drill sense into Bush's skull and trying to find Cheney in his secret location.

Only an idiot cannot the see Oedipal undertones in this guy's presidency. He is desperate to outdo his daddy. I wish Babs woulda fucked him from the get go and gotten the whole thing over with. The country would have been better for it.

RihtisTrite You gotta admit that it's pretty bad when Your parents have to go on National Television to try and save Your pResident Son's reputation as GHWB and Babs did right after Katrina. Funny Dat Be.

Larry Mohr

"childish babble Danni. Anybody who accepted the tax break "supported" it as far as I'm concerned."

Fortunately for me, I don't form my opinions based on your opinions. I voted against the people who legislated that tax cut, I voted against the president who proposed it and signed it. Obviously, I opposed it. I probably saved a few hundred dollars since that tax cut was enacted, if the Dems take power and raise my taxes enough to return back to even it will be fine with me. I'd rather pay my share now rather than expect my kids and grand kids to pay it later. Pretending that tax cut was unimportant and is not a critical part of what is wrong with our economy is childish belief in fairy tales.

When will we learn not to expect deep thoughts from this man?

Current wars ARE like WWII... there are bullets and jeeps and choo-choos... well, not so many choo-choos, really.

yes, they were both "Awesome" - George W Bush