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Sunday, May 18, 2008

A wide-ranging and provocative new study of immigrants' integration into U.S. society has concluded that newcomers today are assimilating more quickly than their predecessors did 100 years ago -- with Cubans, Vietnamese and Filipinos among those leading the way -- and Mexicans lagging behind.

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Wow. They assimilate quicker because the entire neighborhood is their own nationality and speaks their own language (not English).

My friend was born in Finland. He never got any scholarships or free ride to college. He never got any minority points even though he is an immigrant. He could not even qualify as a minority? WTF?

I'm not surprised that immigrants from Vietnam and the Philippines have shown higher rates of assimilation into American society since I've known quite a few who have assimilated very well. Mexicans however (and I want to emphasize Mexicans here) have wholesale failed to assimilate into our society and that includes the legal ones mainly because they either don't try to or refuse to.

The lack of assimilation in my experience is not due to their cultural background it's due to their mind-set and their anti gringo attitude. Many Latin Americans (Salvadorans, Nicaraguans, Guatemalans, etc.) have shown more willingness to assimilate into our culture despite having basically the same Latin background.

Nevertheless anyone from anywhere who wishes to immigrate to the U.S. need to go the legal route or not come here in the first place. The U.S.A. is not the wide open country it once was since many of our natural resources (lack of water is a biggie here in the West) are at a premium today. We need to limit immigration for that reason and we also need to make sure that those who are allowed to immigrate here pass required health checks for disease, show a willingness to abide by our laws and will not be a burden upon our society. The Mexicans have failed miserably as a group (when compared to other nationalities) to show they deserve the right to reside here.

BULLSHIT: I've lived near Miami, and where I am at currently in Iowa near Marshalltown, if your do not speak cuban or mexican spanish you are at a loss as they really do not assimilate.

I think the rates of assimilation are so much higher than 100 years ago due to the information age. The internet allows people to learn about there new country and it's people and policies much faster. Also, I think the American people have also benefited from the information age and are much more receptive and open to people here legally.

The education systems in many countries have also come along way from years ago and this certainly enables people to compete and assimilate much quicker.

Wow. They assimilate quicker because the entire neighborhood is their own nationality and speaks their own language (not English).

First generation immigrants always do that. It makes sense, because it provides a social foundation from which to assimilate. It takes another generation or two to fully assimilate.

News flash. They are talking about legals. They arn't talking about the 20 million that are here illeagly.

Which is why every Corporation in America makes you "press 1" for English... and PacBell in San Francisco offers customer service in twelve languages.

This article could have said: Legal immigrants to the US assimilate quickly, illegal immigrants never do.

Right, that's why we have to print ballots and drivers license tests, and even citizenshp tests in 10 different languages.

Give me a break, the melting pot has turned into an alchemists flask of crap.

I celebrate and enjoy my German heritage, but I'm an American first.

FWTHOM: Belive it or not, for once we agree!

damn, Fwthom git's one from me, too...

BRIWO,

The 7 legal Korean immigrants in my family would also agree. The first generation speaks English with a little bit of a funny accent, but the second generation speaks perfect English, and they all are proud Americans.

Even the WaPo had trouble sugarcoating this study, but that didn't prevent other hacks from simply reading into it what they want (or are paid) to hear:

lonewacko.com

Great, so the best we can expect is that third world immigrants will quickly start trashing the planet 14 times faster than they did at home.

Yes we are all individuals

Signed

The Borg

"My friend was born in Finland. He never got any scholarships or free ride to college."

me either and i'm brown

first gen pakistani american

The immigrants from Asia as groups, and the elites of Cuba who fled, are far more interested not only in being assimilated, but also in participating higher up on the socioeconomic scale. They generally value education and the families' goals are focused on the betterment of their children, supporting utilization of opportunities, which for them involves obtaining jobs that require "credentials" and consequently enable them to live a better life. Filipinos used to have an additional leg up because almost everyone there spoke English. Also, in addition to other factors, I speculate that what amy also be critical is that the immigrants from "elsewhere" than Mexico generally have a greater capacity to learn material that requires them to deal with abstract thought.

These studies are transparent manipulative devices. The failure of the Mexican's to assimilate is noted, and some valid reasons are given, such as their large numbers, which result in parallel communities developing not requiring use many mainstream services. Their numbers even support alternative radio and TV stations, since advertisers reach a large profitable market through them.

Demonstrating that immigrants assimilate is set forth to demonstrate the success of assimilation by some groups and mask the fact that the Mexicans are not assimilating.

The idea of ballots in a foreign language boggles the mind. California will become a predominatly Latino state based n the influx of illegal aliens and the anchor baby regulations that exist. The leading case regarding acquisitiion of citizenship by birth on U.S. territory alone, jus soli, rather than through the status of a parent or parents, jus sanguinis, is subject to reinterpretation to overturn such interpretation in regard to the intrusive Mexican population.

This country erects barriers against identifying and expelling illegal aliens, and is thereby furthering someone's agenda. It is beyond comprehension that "profiling" is somehow excluded from the armamentarium of those seeking to identify illegal aliens. An accent and unfamiliarity with the location is prima facie evidence for such a determination. But then, we also don't use profiling to identify potential terrorists. It's as if a white man committed a crime when living among pygmies in Africa, and the APB, or its equivalent, did not identify him as white. It's inexplicable in rational terms.

Anyway, big trouble is occurring in California, which despite its wealth and industry, is being overrun by people requiring goods and services that are disparate far beyond their contribution. This has resulted in destruction of the emergency health care system, for starters. This, of course, is not the "fault" of the illegal aliens but a function of their presence here. Those who created the system, and were complicit in its use by increasing numbers of illegal aliens, whose presence here they enabled and permitted, are responsible. Now this country is paying the piper with a large "underclass" that seems "permanent," but which with numbers will obtain incresasing political clout that will result in transfers of wealth from the rest of the citizenry. Even today, the political parties are catering to this subgroup, irrationally modifying immigration policies and practices to the detriment of the country. Critical mass has been passed. The prospects are dismal.

If anyone is interested in this matter of ctizinship conferred under jus soli, the leading case is United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), which is available for review at the linked site.

caselaw.lp.findlaw.com

JOHNSON,

I knew this Filipina who spoke 5 languages and dialects and only finished high school. She said that instuction in the Philppines was in English for 7 hours a day and for only one hour in Tagalog. She immigrated to the US with her two children and worked jobs that paid a little over minimum wage. Yet two years later they bought a house. They never complain and are looking forward to becoming American citizens.

My friend was born in Finland. He never got any scholarships or free ride to college. He never got any minority points even though he is an immigrant. He could not even qualify as a minority? WTF?
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Finnish!= minority. In this country, only non-whites are considered a minority. It has nothing to do with where you are from or whether you are an immigrant. Immigrants should get no special treatment over citizens even if they aren't white.

It's not our job to pay for their education. You sure as hell won't see the Finnish government paying for the education of US students in their country ROFL.

We can't even afford help our own people who've paid taxes...

-Viz

Guess the authors of this study haven't been to Calif. recently--

What is there to assimilate to ? They sneak into the country , their relatives give them the entitlement packette , real Americans go to work and support the human debris , you fucks , that is not assimilation .

************** How about reality! ***************

You have to consider the facts about who Democrats appeal too most in terms of whose votes they solicit:

Mostly people who prefer a socialist type system reliant on guaranteed income and benefits system, and in America about 60% + of workers and retirees fall into this category.

" They are of all " colors and races but predominantly are on Medicare, Welfare, Get food stamps, are on Social Security, victims of competition, and are in a Union... and so on.

The reason they find Democrats so comfortable and trust them is because they promise to take care of them. Like children.

Scary.

Mexicans -- by far the most numerous nationality -- lag significantly behind other big immigrant groups, possibly because a lack of legal status keeps many Mexican immigrants from advancing.

Ya think?

We provide free education in spanish, provide free medical care and allow the free flow of money back to their home country.

Whats the motivation to assimilate?

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