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American Conservative: There is considerable speculation and buzz in Washington today suggesting that the National Security Council has agreed in principle to proceed with plans to attack an Iranian al-Qods-run camp that is believed to be training Iraqi militants.

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US Will Strike Militant Camp in Iran


Bad juju, mates. Real bad juju.



Bad juju, mates. Real bad juju.

~TOSSER


Indeed

When I see this headline I think BushCo has only 254 days left to get another one going for McBush and the Neo-Cons.

And if this happens will the Iranians instantly render their apologies ?

One last question: when Bush points his finger at meddlers how many fingers are pointing back at himself ?

"One last question: when Bush points his finger at meddlers how many fingers are pointing back at himself?"

Posted by YoMeLIB

bloggerradio.typepad.com

Great...In addition to telling them WHERE we're gonna strike, why don't we tell them WHEN? We could also tell them with what assets, from which direction, and how long it will last. Let's make sure they have an opportunity to move any vulnerable assets of their own and to bolster up defenses. That makes good sense and will make it all fair and balanced...right? I LOOOOVE "fair" wars.

"I love fair wars...."

If Bush hits Iran in the next several months, it will be without the approval or permission of his Congress or his people.

The stark illegality of that move may be the only thing that deters him, because I think he's wanted to have another war for years now.

Yes, Bush is a tyrant, in that not-so-old by apparently quite forgotten meaning of that term. And, yes, he's crazy. Meaning mentally ill.

REMEMBER: One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter.

War is NEVER a solution.

Todays magic word is: OVEREXTEND.

The stark illegality of that move may be the only thing that deters him, because I think he's wanted to have another war for years now.



that stops him from bombing somalia, ethiopia, pakistan, etc how?

According to rumor, the attack is planned this summer.
My guess is that the probabilities increase if Obama is the official nominee. There is a good chance for a Democrat sweep, leaving the neocons one last chance to destroy Israel's enemies.

War is NEVER a solution.


I know...talking always works better. History has proven that.

If Bush hits Iran in the next several months, it will be without the approval or permission of his Congress or his people.

I see no chance he would be brought to justice if the Democrats take Congress and the presidency. The American public predictably buries their heads in the sand.

You can't exactly bomb the country that supplies NATO with 90% of the fuel for it's afghan adventure. LOL

What I'm worried about is all the Iranians running across the border into Pakistan.

It happened once before and the dudes never left (fall of Shah). Pakistan is like fly-paper... for some reason I can't understand, every refugee once here, never wants to leave (unless it's to the US).

I mean I like Iranians but they don't belong here.

Have some thought for me and the rest of Pakistan and get yer Chimp to cool it.

I know...talking always works better. History has proven that.

Posted by jestgettinalong


History also shows that heads of state prefer war.

Buy The Chimp a leash and collar.

When is the dope's kid getting married, btw? Maybe thats what is bugging him?

I know...talking always works better. History has proven that

Non-interventionism works better and history HAS proven that..

I believe our shithead president will attack Iran before he is through. When the dems win the presidency, they will continue the war for the same reasons they have continued the current one which will soon be forgotten by them..

The meathead didn't move two aircraft carrier groups for nothing. (He doesn't like to waste gas).

Shrub's popularity should get at least a ten point bounce when he attacks Iran. Its America's way of supporting the troops. We're so proud of our unwarranted aggression.

Iran has never invaded anybody in modern times. They are no threat to world peace or radioactive contamination of the planet, but we are.

There used to be 26 million people in Iraq. now there's about 21 million. Way to go Shrub.

Pictures of US TORTURE at Abu Grab are pasted up all over Cairo. We have created 80 million more enemies there. Bush must be a genius for legalizing torture.

If the moron you can't subdue 26 million people with shock & awe, torture, unemployment, a fake surge, cutoff of utilities and food how's he gonna subdue 70 million who haven't had to endure a decades long arms embargo?

Why lose one war on borrowed money when you can lose two.

Ah yes. But I remind you all, politicians don't learn from history. It's no surprise why history repeats ad nauseum. This country has roughly a 40 year war cycle. That's enough time the a generation tired of war to be replaced by a generation new to war.


The ONLY thing that is going to prevent an eventual armed conflict between the US/Israel and Iran is if some great upheaval occurs in Iranian leadership. I really don't think it's going to make one bit of difference which party is in power in the U.S. It's inevitable unless the dissidents in Iran can overthrow the radicals in Tehran (doubtful.)It didn't all just begin festering in 2000 or 2001 either. Remember, the Iranians were persuing a secret nuclear program long before Bush took office. You don't think the other Arab countries want a nuclear armed Iran, do you? How much screaming did you hear from them when Israel hit Syria's nuclear facilities?

Iran has never invaded anybody in modern times. They are no threat to world peace or radioactive contamination of the planet, but we are.

It is sad, but if we attack Iran, I hope we lose (which won't happen). And if we lose, I hope all of our kids in the military are smart enough to go AWOL - actually, win or lose I hope they do, and do so while flying the bird at D.C....

A nuclear armed Iran? Hey Jest. Are you that gullible to believe the neocon bullshit again?

Syria's nuclear facilities? I guess you forgot about Powell's infamous presentation at the UN complete with satellite photographs.

I have to conclude you are as simple as a child.

I hope we lose (which won't happen).

I wouldn't count on it. The US is more vulnerable militarily and economically than you think.

"That's enough time that a generation tired of war...Replaced by a generation new to war...."

Ray's hit something with that. By-and-large, those pushing for wars recently have been those that have evaded them when their time came. Or those too young to have had their chance.

These people have always viewed those that hate war because they have seen it as being crazy, or cowardly, or both. There's no understanding to be had from them.

They have always seen war through their personal, malinformed prisms of inexperience. It was a place where wars are always quick and easy, because that's how they imagined them to be.

Bush, I don't think, has ever gotten out of this mindset. I think he knows enough to weep when someone the rest of us labels as brave has died, but there is never anything sufficiently personal in that sort of death to teach him anything.


"he knows enough to weep"

Crocodile tears.

Does Bush think dead Medal of Honor winners are brave? No. I think he views such persons as blue-collar workers that happened to fall down the elevator shaft they were repairing.

Unfortunate, of course, but no reason to stop drinking near-beer if full-fledged alcoholism couldn't chase you away from it.

"I have to conclude you are as simple as a child."

Yeah, well, Ray...you already know what I think of most of YOUR conclusions.

You idiots, just because we bombed Vietnam, Iraq and now possibly Iran back to the Stone age did not mean we won.

Are there any indications that Iraq is friendlier to the US than Iran now?

Can we enforce our new oil contracts without keeping troops in place for a hundred years?
Do Iraqis love us now?

The winner is the Military Industrial Complex. They bankrupt us as we lose.

I wouldn't count on it. The US is more vulnerable militarily and economically than you think.

Well, they do have some seriously bad-ass cruise missiles...

Yes Jest. After the WMD and Iraqi fiasco, it's stunning to watch people like you fall for the same lies again.

I'm just standing on the sidelines watching this nation destroy itself. You can be proud of your contribution.

the dope's kid getting married

The subtitle: Bush Gains Son, Jenna Loses Virginity.


But I knew this was in the works. It's why they made Fallon resign. It's why they want Petraeus as CENTCOM.

Too bad that wizzle dick isn't out front leading the charge.

The real dilemma is that these guys are so stupid that you really want them to fall off their horse, but then the hardship never rests on them. It's like watching a kidnapper beat his victim knowing that he's holding a dead switch so you can't shoot him, and you can't free the victim.

Not until January.

After WMD the reputation of US intel is such that "Trust but verify" won't even do the trick anymore. "Do not trust unless verified; otherwise ixnay on attacking other countries."

According to rumor, the attack is planned this summer.
My guess is that the probabilities increase if Obama is the official nominee. There is a good chance for a Democrat sweep, leaving the neocons one last chance to destroy Israel's enemies.


How many nations in the ME have peace treaties with Israel ? i.e. Israel sits within a sea of enemies.

If I'm not mistaken (duh) congress has already given these madmen the green light to invade ?

"You can be proud of your contribution."

It so happens, I AM. What have YOU contributed, Ray? I'm sure you miss the sixties and all the Woodstock type events but it's just as well. None of the peace and love never caught hold anyway and all that shit you smoked, snorted, ingested and injected is what has made you so paranoid, angry and unhappy. Unfortunately it's probably irreversible. You should maybe make an appointment with Dr.Kevorkian.

You should maybe make an appointment with Dr.Kevorkian.

You should make an appt with Uncle Sam or send your kids to do so.. Otherwise, you are another worthless windbag..

"Do not trust unless verified; otherwise ixnay on attacking other countries."

I agree entirely with your assessment of the intelligence community. However, I find it ironic that so many would IMMEDIATELY buy the assessment they made that Iran had abandoned their nuclear program in 2003.
What do they call that...selective...what?

There was a lot of good that came out of the Sixties. Unfortunately, some people never quite got over it. Jest, you're clearly one of them. Good luck in therapy. Perhaps you'd like to give Dr. Freud a call. Remember, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.



However, I find it ironic that so many would IMMEDIATELY buy the assessment they made that Iran had abandoned their nuclear program in 2003.


2003 post invasion?

"You should make an appt with Uncle Sam or send your kids to do so.."

I made my "appointment" probably before you were born. I've probably been retired from the military as long as you've been alive.My kids are too old themselves. I do, however have a couple of grandchildren who have been serving for a number of years.

"Otherwise, you are another worthless windbag.."

In light of the above, I must be a worthy "windbag"...right? What is it now that makes YOU worthy, the fact that you're a formidable DR commando?

Jest

I'm underwhelmed by how well you think you know someone you don't know.

I live a pretty straight, healthy, peaceful life. Enjoying it one day at a time. My career was as an engineer designing machinery that improves the productivity of this nation.

You seem to have the territorial instincts of a dog. Rather than thank me for showing you how gullible you are, you rather snarl at me.

I made my "appointment" probably before you were born.

I guess you can take the warrior out of the war, but not the war out of the warrior.. That will be my lesson for today..

It does seem like Bush's Last Stand.

I also think that everyone is fully engaged at the trough knowing that the deal is coming to an end. $4/gallon gas? About half of that is speculation and those assholes can expect increased scrutiny under an Obama Admin - especially if the Attorney General is someone like Edwards.

"Unfortunately, some people never quite got over it. Jest, you're clearly one of them."

I'm not so sure just how much good came out of the sixties, Doc, but I'm not obssessed with it. In fact, I spent the greater part of the decade out nof the country and missed most of the turmoil. I even voted democrat back in those years...believe it or not. I believe the COUNTRY never got over it. The hippies of yesteryear are now running the government and the universities.

"Good luck in therapy. Perhaps you'd like to give Dr. Freud a call."

Too tough to reach him. Besides, wasn't he more concerned with dreams and sex.

"Remember, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

Absolutely.

Israel is a threat to every Arab. They kill them every day with impunity, thanks to US support in cash and weaponry.

By what logic is solely Israel entitled to the Bomb? They are clearly the invading aggressors.

"Rather than thank me for showing you how gullible you are, you rather snarl at me."

Probably a result of the retort to my post stating an opinion where you called me "simple as a child." I hve nothing against you, Ray, and have even found some subjects where we agree...not this one though.

We should have attacked Iran in the 1980's when all their citzens were chanting Death to America. At least the world would have understood. The world might still understand because I think they declared war long ago. We attacked the wrong country.

I don't think it matters who is president I think we will go to war with them too.

"We should have attacked Iran in the 1980's"

That would have been when Reagan was selling them TOW missles, yes?

We should have attacked Iran in the 1980's when all their citzens were chanting Death to America.

Or maybe that was the smartest foreign policy decision in decades... Maybe we should just stay home and let other countries do what they are going to do - even if we don't like it. We certainly live above those rules...

"We should have attacked Iran in the 1980's when all their citzens were chanting Death to America."


We did.
It was a disaster.

history.sandiego.edu

Franky, Jest. I was appalled that you believe the bullshit coming out of Israel and Washington. Haven't you given any thought that they are trying to put another one over us again?
How can any rational person imagine Syria would attempt to build nuclear facilities with Israel watching every move they make? Iran can't even build a nuclear power plant without Russian help, much less nuclear bombs.
The US and Israel have a history of aggressive militarism, not Iran.
Would the mullah's risk being "obliterated?"

Think man. Think! You are being manipulated.

Our economy is starting to show the damage from Bush's military misadventures. One more invasion will really sink us. Be careful for what you wish for.

"The US and Israel have a history of aggressive militarism, not Iran.
Would the mullah's risk being "obliterated?"

YUP...besides, they're doing it through proxies such as Hezbollah. If you think Iran uis benign, you're naive. Read this, a little long, but well-researched:

www.matthiaskuentzel.de

"Think man. Think! You are being manipulated."

And I think YOU are being naive.

"Our economy is starting to show the damage from Bush's military misadventures."

I take no pride in Bush and/or his administration and/or the manner in which the Iraq has been handled. I certainly think his economic policies and rubber stamped spending bills have been disastrous. I'll be glad when he's gone too.

"One more invasion will really sink us."

I don't foresee an invasion in the works. I think there will be strikes aginst certain installations and networks and maybe supporting the moderates in Iran to revolt.

"Be careful for what you wish for."

If you're hoping to see a President Obama, I might say the same to you.





Actually another war wont sink us if we go for genocide in Iran. All their people declare war on us in the streets, so lets go to war. We could get more video of nuclear bombs and watch them on Youtube. We will start using nukes when our backs are up against the wall.

"speculation and buzz"... you're kidding me, right? That is less reliable than comments from an "annonymous insider".


Bush is dumb and short-sighted. Really dumb and short-sighted. But i simpley cannot accept he is THAT stupid and THAT short-sighted.

"Actually another war wont sink us if we go for genocide in Iran."

Sieg heil, dude.

And I think YOU are being naive.

We'll just have to wait to see who is naive.

I think there will be strikes aginst certain installations and networks and maybe supporting the moderates in Iran to revolt.

Revolt yes. Against the US and Israel. The kind of revolt you envision has never worked. I would not be surprised if the Iranians mount a full scale counterattack, like sinking the Persian Gulf fleet for instance. Then there is no turning back.

If you're hoping to see a President Obama, I might say the same to you.

The decline and fall of the US Empire has reached the fait accompli stage. Obama is an establishment candidate and will do what the establishment expects of him.

TALK IS CHEAP. DO IT....

I know...talking always works better. History has proven that.

Posted by jestgettinalong


...especially in Korea, Vietnam, Somalia, Iraq....

It is simply amazing how dim-bulbed the "left" in this country truly is. Our worst enemy in the world, according to these shit-heads, is Bush. Yet, 90% of all the violent conflict in this world comes from this rag-head religion that we're now kowtowing to.

Blow these dirt bags back to the 7th century. Oh, wait a minute! They never left the 7th century. My mistake! Instead, let's join them against Bush.

It would be great poetic justice on the left if these rag-heads took over. I wonder how much how much snivelling there would be then over Abu Ghraib, or G'itmo, and the like?

It might be nice actually...the Left finally getting snuffed for all their hatred and anti-American drivel.

Bring it to us Iran. Save America...snuff the liberals!


Have some thought for me and the rest of Pakistan and get yer Chimp to cool it.

Posted by Tosser


Yeah, like we have a snowball's chance in hell to do that!

Shove a banana up his arse or something.

Thomas-
When do you think the Muslim hordes will overrun us and force your woman into a burka?

How much screaming did you hear from them when Israel hit Syria's nuclear facilities?

Posted by jestgettinalong


...then let the fuckers in Israel spend their (our) money and take care of the situation. We are such fucking lap dogs for doing all their dirty work!

TALK IS CHEAP. DO IT....
Posted by BADAOPHAY at 2008-05-10 01:54 PM


Pat Robertson in TWO threads! Imo, another illegal invasion will prove our collective corpus callosum is entirely disconnected.

We can't afford to fix New Orleans, let alone invade another sovereign nation to "fix" them.

Talk is cheap and invasion is costly.

They're already here BUTTPIRATE. And soon you will see! You might wanna visit some Muslim sites on the web and read the chatter.

I'm sure a willfully ignorant, fucking idiot liberal like yourself won't do that however. Cuz it's all about hating Bush!

Wait. Time out!

Who is "BUTTPIRATE"?

Oh, my mistake...I read your screen name incorrectly!


We should have attacked Iran in the 1980's when all their citzens were chanting Death to America. At least the world would have understood. The world might still understand because I think they declared war long ago. We attacked the wrong country.

I don't think it matters who is president I think we will go to war with them too.

Posted by rick1234567890


Hey rick, if a foreign country (America) had controlled your internal politics and helped a ruthless military dictator take over the government for twenty years of iron-hand rule, would you be out there yelling "death to America"?

Believe me, the rest of the world would not have condoned the attack then as they would not condone it now.

BTW, Thomas, Muslims make up less than 1% of the US population, so start worrying more about the fluoride in your gov't water...

If we use the confiscated Iranian munitions it will be the perfect black bag job.

Bee swell

Thomas-
I really had no way of knowing that you were so preoccupied with thoughts, and perhaps emotive images, of "Buttpiracy", or that any name that began with the same letter "B" would trigger your individual psychosis.

My bad.

BUTTPIRATE, quit changing the subject. Just get back to hating Bush! Ham slammers like yourself ease their own psychosis by doing so!

I get it. You two need a third. Sorry, but I didn't pencil that in for today. Maybe you two can find a submissive on another forum. Have you tried AOL?

"Our worst enemy....Is Bush...."

An interesting game to play is to imagine if Bush were an Iranian agent who had done all the things he's done to date.

Yes, we would have a war with Iran, I bet.

Hey, Bush-supporters - why aren't coalition forces currently attacking Saudi Arabia? Osama Bin Laden and The Hijackers are Saudi, right?

Since they allegedly have possession of a majority of global oil interests wouldn't securing them from internal terrorists who strike at their friends, ie BushCo, be the logical invasion?


Actually another war wont sink us if we go for genocide in Iran. All their people declare war on us in the streets, so lets go to war. We could get more video of nuclear bombs and watch them on Youtube. We will start using nukes when our backs are up against the wall.

Posted by rick1234567890

Rick, please go back to the ward. Nurse Ratchett is looking for you! Pray tell, you moron. Do you even think it is a remote possibility that the US will nuke Iran, who has the third largest oil reserve, so that the the whole country would be worthless for the next five-hundred years? You must be one of those working, hard-working, white Americans with a GED in Hillary,s camp.

War is NEVER a solution.

Posted by skip_wellington


NEVER????

"We should have attacked Iran in the 1980's"

That would have been when Reagan was selling them TOW missles, yes?

Posted by Doc_Sarvis

No, that was when Carter was kissing their asses.

Sniper is such an ignorant partisan piece of shit. Bile and pus ooze from his every post. Who loves ya baby... without assholes like you the DR wouldn't be any fun.

"...Just get back to hating Bush! Ham slammers like yourself ease their own psychosis by doing so..."

Gannon-Suckers like yourself ease YOUR pychosis by HATING left-wing Liberals for NO REASON.

At least us "Bush-Haters" have plenty of cause to hate him: Bush was a loser in school. Bush was a loser at the National Guard. Bush was a loser in Business. Bush is a loser in Politics. A 28% favorable rating is LOWER than an F grade. That makes him a loser. Hell, Bush didn't even serve in CONGRESS at the STATE or FEDERAL LEVEL.

Instead your 'Hero' Bush was a
MALE CHEERLEADER dude!

What would YOU call ANY MAN who was a Male Cheerleader at YOUR SCHOOL????

FAGGOT? PANSY? Shit man! Of Course you would!

Ergo, Bush is a Faggot and a Pansy...and you like him. Reallly realllly like him.

And what the hell has happened to your powers of reason? Just because people DON'T support an OFFENSIVE (constitutionally-illegal) WAR against a country (Iraq/Iran), DOES'NT mean that those same people SUPPORT the so-called ENEMY.

So you still support the international War Criminal George Bush - who HAS killed more people in Iraq then Hussein killed. So What? Be Proud, Enjoy the blood. Enjoy More.

Just do me a favor; when the Iranians throw Flowers, Candy and Medjools at our victorious troops, will you fly out there and pick me up a few pounds of Chocolate Covered Dates?

And no, I will not dignify you with a 'Moron' tag!

Posted by jsprague at 2008-05-10 11:22 AM | Reply | Flag: offensive


rcade, are you going to allow this type of seditious talk on this blog?

It is ok to wish for the destruction of America?

Are all bets off to the type of talk allowed here?

If so please state this fact.

Can i threaten to kill someone on this blog that is clearly the enemy of America?

Please advise.

rwd

Can i threaten to kill someone on this blog that is clearly the enemy of America?

Please advise.

rwd

Posted by rightwingdon at 2008-05-10 05:06 PM | Reply | Flag


That is clearly the prerogative of a internet pussy.

RWD, - what a typical rightwing pussy. Waah, waah, rcade people are upsetting me. waah waah.


RWD, - what a typical rightwing pussy. Waah, waah, rcade people are upsetting me. waah waah.

Posted by moder8


For someone who lives in California,making no money being a public defender,you seem pretty angry.

Is letting illegal aliens off and them comming back and raping your boyfriend getting to you?

rwd

That is clearly the prerogative of a internet pussy.

Posted by Alexandrite

Obviously you are more concerned about my asking rcade for clarification then about someone who clearly wished for the destruction of America.

Fucking die asshole.

rwd

RWD- He didn't wish for the destruction of America, but for our troops to lose.

Since he isn't here...my calling him a stupid degenerate piece of shit won't do much good. However, he is.

Fucking die asshole.


Classy.

Hurry up shitstains, i want to get this thread up off the bottom.

Who agrees with this post?

Posted by jsprague at 2008-05-10 11:22 AM | Reply | Flag: offensive

rwd

Since he isn't here...my calling him a stupid degenerate piece of shit won't do much good. However, he is.


He didn't wish for the destruction of America, but for our troops to lose.

Posted by Alexandrite

Yes he did.

He played his card and now he has to live with it.

I have zero respect for this person.

If you would off condemed this post of his right off the bat i would have seen eye to eye with you.

I probably would have been much less upset if it weren't for me going through all the subsequent posts and the only response to it was from that idiot ray.

rwd




was from that idiot ray.
rwd


Now doubt RWD voted for Bush - twice. He's so smart, he plans to vote for Bush's clone.

OMG that's twice in two weeks I have been visited by the HOMELAND SEGURO DEPARTMENT!

I guess calling the president a Loser, a Faggot and a Pussy was really reallly bad on my part! They have asked me to apologize on this board to all who were offended by my comments. So I am sorry.

I promise I won't call the president a Loser, a Faggot and a Pussy anymore. Because calling the preseident a Loser, a Faggot and a Pussy is not very nice, not very patriotic and may not be true.

Though a lot of the qualities this president has are equally shared by Losers, Faggots and Pussies, the president clearly is not all three; Loser, Faggot or Pussy, or any combination of Loser, Faggot and Pussy put together.

So my apologies to the president. I didn't mean to call him a loser, a faggot, or a pussy...

...Even though he was a Cheerleader!

RWDon Thought Crimes?:>)


Report Pushes Passage Of Thought Crimes Bill

The Internet is now becoming a new front in the phony terror war. Legislation like the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 that is in the forms of HR 1955 and S 1959 which seek to give the government powers to define thoughts and belief systems as homegrown terrorism, is on the brink of being pushed down our throats.
First off, the threat of terrorist operated Internet sites is a complete fraud. IntelCenter a CIA front group which supposedly finds all of these Al-Qaeda terrorist video and audio tapes on the Internet never provides the source of where they obtain the terrorist propaganda. If these materials were real terrorist propaganda and they didn't want to reveal the source, why have we not seen warrants served, the web servers seized and people questioned?

www.infowars.com

Okay, I'll Bite. I agree with Ray's 11:22am post:

RightWingDon - You are a Simple Child...

...and (lol) a Moron.



Now doubt RWD voted for Bush - twice. He's so smart, he plans to vote for Bush's clone.
~RAY



LOL

You're going to have a tough time getting odds on that bet.

Just got a call from The White house. Here's the Message;

"Hey, dumplin' This is your presidenterer, GW. Ah got one thang to say:

Sticks an' Stones will break my bones rah-rah,

But words will nevuh....nevuh...ah, Sis-Boom-Bah!"

RWD- If you would off condemed this post of his right off the bat i would have seen eye to eye with you.

Didn't see it right off and I was reacting to pussy internet threats. But I do condemn the comments.

OMG that's twice in two weeks I have been visited by the HOMELAND SEGURO DEPARTMENT!

Uh...what?

PS- Bush is not a faggot.



If these materials were real terrorist propaganda and they didn't want to reveal the source, why have we not seen warrants served, the web servers seized and people questioned?

www.infowars.com

Posted by Bani





All over the internet, intelligent people who care about freedom are speaking out against this extremely dangerous law: Philip Giraldi at the Huffington Post, Declan McCullagh at CNET's News.com, Kathryn Smith at OpEdNews.com, and of course Alex Jones at PrisonPlanet.com

This bill is the beginning of the end of Free Speech in America. If it passes, all the information sources you know and trust could be shut down and their authors imprisoned. NaturalNews could be taken offline and I could be arrested as a "terrorist." Jeff Rense at www.Rense.com could be labeled a "terrorist" and arrested. Byron Richards, Len Horowitz, Paul Craig Roberts, Greg Palast, Ron Paul and even Al Gore could all be arrested, silenced and incarcerated. This is not an exaggeration. It is a literal reading of the law, which you can check yourself here:
...............


This is the shrill that is trying to stop this bill from becomming law.

One thing comes to mind about this, and that is in the months that led up to 9/11 the Bush antagonists were crying about his administrations lack of intelligence oversite regarding homeland security.

The big critizism was that he ignored warnings and failed to act on them.

Now we have a house vote of a majority of democrats who could of killed this bill join with republicans and passed hr1955.

And now you are (claiming?)that all the representitives are acting in conjuction against Americans.

What will it take for you people to accept our changing world and all the safeguards that our elected officals want to put in place without crying conspirisy at every turn.


rwd

You're going to have a tough time getting odds on that bet.

It will probably be a close election like they usually are. The winners will have the president they deserve and the rest of us will suffer for it.

Didn't see it right off and I was reacting to pussy internet threats. But I do condemn the comments.

Posted by Alexandrite

Ok sorry.

Wish for death comment OFF.

rwd

What will it take for you people to accept our changing world and all the safeguards that our elected officals want to put in place without crying conspirisy at every turn.

Sincerely Reichwingdon.

Sniper is such an ignorant partisan piece of shit. Bile and pus ooze from his every post. Who loves ya baby... without assholes like you the DR wouldn't be any fun.

Posted by moder8

Are you as smooth with women too? I guess you were still bitting ankles when the Shaw took a tumble and you can't remember shit.


OMG that's twice in two weeks I have been visited by the HOMELAND SEGURO DEPARTMENT!

"...Uh...what?...Posted by Alexandrite..."

You've never heard of the Homeland Seguro Department? Come on now!

"...PS- Bush is not a faggot..."

I know...I know...Bush has NEVER been a Loser, Nor a Faggot, Nor a Pussy. Never. Never. Never ever.

For RWD:

Is it a conspiracy when the government colludes against the American Citizen's Constitutional Rights right in front of everyone and in broad daylight?

Enquiring minds want to know, Mr. Moron.

Sniper: It's Shah, NOT Shaw. Talk about ankle biters!



Now we have a house vote of a majority of democrats who could of killed this bill join with republicans and passed hr1955.
~RWD


WTF are you saying, what bill do you support? There is no clarity to your post.

Try again, are you supporting H.R. 1955?

"It's Shah, NOT Shaw."

Posted by DUMPLING1

chuckle

theatre.msu.edu

www.mrdowling.com



Are you as smooth with women too? I guess you were still bitting ankles when the Shaw took a tumble and you can't remember shit.
~SNIPER


BL2 should praise the lord every day for Snippy undoubtedly the last man picked.

Snippy is that Bob Shaw of who you speak?


Is it a conspiracy when the government colludes against the American Citizen's Constitutional Rights right in front of everyone and in broad daylight?


Posted by DUMPLING1


A conspiracy is usually something that is plotted in secret.

Take off the tin foil hat.

You do a lot of blustering dumpling1 with very little substance.

You really do amuse me.

Are you zaps boyfriend by chance?

Just asking, you seem like an angry gay to me.

Come out of the closet and set yourself freeeee...


rwd



LOL

Come out of the closet and set yourself freeeee...
RWD


All I was asking for was a little clarity, perhaps to much to ask...


One thing comes to mind about this, and that is in the months that led up to 9/11 the Bush antagonists were crying about his administrations lack of intelligence oversite regarding homeland security.


RWDONNYBOY

were they?


Monday, June 25, 2007
70 Reasons To Doubt The Official Story of 9/11

70 reasons to doubt...
DISTURBING FACTS ABOUT THE 9/11 ATTACKS
John Doraemi

1. The president of the United States, when informed that a second plane had struck the World Trade Center, continued to read about a pet goat.

2. This same president was moved from his high rise hotel in Genoa Italy two months previously for security reasons, because of a known al Qaeda plot for hijacking and "crashing an airliner into the Genoa summit of industrialized nations." The assumption in July 2001 was that there existed a plot that "terrorists would try to crash a plane to kill Bush and other leaders" (LA Times, 9-27-01).

3. The Secret Service did not secure the president, even though his location was publicly disclosed in the press for days before the school photo op on 9/11. This was a break in standard operating procedures that left the president vulnerable in the middle of a purported "attack" on America.

4. NORAD has told three different and conflicting stories explaining why no jet fighters intercepted any of the four hijacked airliners.

5. Vice President Richard Cheney was placed in charge of anti-terrorism training and military preparedness exercises by Bush on May 8, 2001. This gave him command authority during the 9/11 attacks because as many as nine war game exercises involving military and intelligence agencies were occurring simultaneously.

6. The military's "Air Piracy" regulations were rewritten on June 1st 2001 to require the "Secretary of Defense" to give "approval" for military escort aircraft in the event of a hijacking. Donald Rumsfeld gave no "approval" that day.

7. More than an hour and fifteen minutes after the first hijacking was reported by FAA, the US military headquarters at the Pentagon was struck without any defensive action taken to stop the attack. The impact was on the west side, for some reason the only side that had been "hardened" with blast-proof windows and specially reinforced walls. None of the highest ranking military leadership were located on that side.

8. (TRANSCRIPT) Air Force General Richard Myers: "When it became clear what the threat was, we did scramble fighter aircraft, AWACS, radar aircraft and tanker aircraft to begin to establish orbits in case other aircraft showed up in the FAA system that were hijacked..."
Senator Carl Levin: "Was that order that you just described given before or after the Pentagon was struck? Do you know?"

Air Force General Richard Myers: "That order, to the best of my knowledge, was after the Pentagon was struck."

Reality intrudes. It became "clear what the threat was," the moment the first hijacked airliner struck the North Tower at 8:45am. This congressional testimony is inexcusable and grounds for investigation into criminal negligence, dereliction of duty, and treason.

9. "President Bush personally asked Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle Tuesday to limit the congressional investigation into the events of September 11..." ..."Tuesday's discussion followed a rare call to Daschle from Vice President Dick Cheney last Friday to make the same request."

and 61 more:>)lol

independentsunbound.blogspot.c
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Posted by Bani at 2008-05-10 07:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

OMG! you think the president is responsible for 9/11?

bwaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaahaaah
aaaaa

OMG!

rwd

Off to dinner.

not smart enough to be....good cheerleader, though:>)


not smart enough to be....good cheerleader, though:>)

Posted by Bani


me plenty smart you big fool



me plenty smart you big fool
~RWD



Clearly..

Dumpling- No. Bush IS a loser and a pussy.

Another sign that the US plans to attack Iran.

"LONDON (Reuters) - Oil major Royal Dutch Shell (RDSa.L: Quote, Profile, Research) has pulled out of a planned gas project in Iran, after coming under pressure not to participate from U.S. lawmakers who were concerned about Iran's nuclear programme.

"A spokeswoman said on Saturday that the world's second-largest non government-controlled oil company by market capitalisation was pulling out of Phase 13 of the giant South Pars gas field but may yet join later stages of the field's development."

Posted by jsprague at 2008-05-10 11:22 AM | Reply | Flag: offensive

You want me banned for that? I am sure you will disagree, but clearly misunderstood my post..

We are doing a fine job of destroying America as it is and I wish that trend to stop. Imperialism always leads to the end of an empire. I do not wish for our country to attack any more sovereign nations who have caused us no harm, I do not wish for any more troops to die, I do not wish that we continue to spend ourselves into bankruptcy on immoral and illegal wars. So, yes, if we attack Iran, I side with them because we are in the wrong - again...

I will add to the above by saying that our leaders, by whatever means necessary, need to learn that war is not the answer to our problems. I recently heard a quote that states: "When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail". That sums up our foreign policy in this country..

oil lust.

I seriously LOL'd real big when I read this thread. I Mean I woke up my wife an kid, I was laughing pretty loud.

You got several democrats in here seriously saying:

"War is never the answer"

LOL

and I mean LOL.

There would be no United States, there would be no free jews, blacks, or chinese on the entire planet, and everyone else would be Nazi's or Nazi allies.

Yeah, democrats sure are correct. War solves nothing.

LOL I wish some stupid democrat would tell me that to my face, so I could punch him right in the nose. Then he would tell me, "violence solves nothing". Then I do it again, and say "Whats wrong? Couldn't negotiate with me to stop from hitting you? bang again" LOL

Idiots. It takes 2 to agree moron democrats. If 2 don't agree, the ONLY thing that can be done ultimately is war.

History has proven that endlessly.

Kuma

I think you are on to something, Kuma!


Weekly Report: On Israeli Human Rights Violations in the Occupied Palestinian Territory No. 19/2008 (30 April- 07 May 2008)...

www.uruknet.info

Are you saying if I beat the shit out of you in public that you have an answer for that? You going to negotiate with me to stop me?

When you learn you can't, and you'll get worked, then you will learn a GREAT deal about how the real world works.

Also palestine should have been annihilated several times over. When they are killing Israel children and women, and shooting rockets blindly into cities and the government won't stop it, then your civilization should be wiped out.

Its called "human shields" moron. If terrorists are hiding with civilians, guess what, civilians die.

Just as Clinton. Thats why he didn't get Bin Laden.

You liberals never cease to amaze, you know NOTHING about history at all. Nothing. you just make it up day to day however you "feel" that day.

You got answers to my fists in your face? You CANT fight back, because that would break your principles.

LOL your such a loser man. Spineless sea cucumbers you are. A criminal breaks into your house, rapes your children and kills your wife, and what do liberals like you do?

"can we negotiate a settlement here, please? please?"

I laugh in your face, or as the french would say "go away or I shall taunt you a second time"

Kuma

Bin Landen bin dead for years...where you bin in the real world?:>)

www.whatreallyhappened.com

Bin Laden's voice was detected regularly until [14 December 2001] by intelligence operatives monitoring radio transmissions in Tora Bora, according to the Pentagon [details]. Since then, nothing has been heard from the al-Qa'eda leader and President Bush has hinted in private that bin Laden's silence could mean he has been killed. [Telegraph, 12/28/2001]

Osama bin Laden:
A dead nemesis perpetuated by the US government

Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December [2001] and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan's president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Osama's gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Osama's ghost alive or because they have no means of communication.
With an ego the size of Mount Everest, Osama bin Laden would not have, could not have, remained silent for so long if he were still alive. He always liked to take credit even for things he had nothing to do with. Would he remain silent for nine months and not trumpet his own survival? [New York Times. July 11, 2002]



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Bin Laden has often been reported to be in poor health. Some accounts claim that he is suffering from Hepatitis C, and can expect to live for only two more years. According to Le Figaro, last year [2000] he ordered a mobile dialysis machine to be delivered to his base at Kandahar in Afghanistan. [Guardian]

LOL bani. LOL

ROFL AGAIN.

And ROFL in your face x100. Thats REAL credible bro. LOL

Kuma

Kuma,

I am sure that you are missing the point.. Not sure if you are smart enough to know what self-defense is.. If you punched someone in the face, I would hope the other party would tear you apart. We just don't want to be the country that runs around punching other countries in the face. And I am not a democrat..

If you know so much about history, then why don't you tell the class what Jefferson and Washington said about war and foreign policy...

Thats what the internet is. Billions of self-proclaimed genius's. According to you, we should be at war with many, many more nations. If we went to war over every government that supported killing americans, we would be on lockdown for eternity.

Its a common thing for "supposed" smart people to toss out their favorite names. Jefferson, Washington.

Bottom line is, you don't have a fucking clue what they would do, the dynamic is totally different.

I can say washington, and Jefferson's name too. Makes me look smart too.

Means absolutely nothing. Both sides love quoting both for political gain, and absolutely nobody ever, ever changes their mind.

So since nobody is ever going to change their mind, let me just say this. Fuck yourself man, everyone is a genius. who gives a fuck.

Kuma

According to you, we should be at war with many, many more nations.

Not sure where you came up with that, but I have lost interest.

I can say washington, and Jefferson's name too. Makes me look smart too.

No, everything you say makes you look like an ignorant douchebag..

"I can say washington, and Jefferson's name too. Makes me look smart too."

Not even close.

Because oil prices simply aren't high enough ...

What interests do the US have in bombing Iran? For the life of me I can't figure it out. Hell, for that matter, at this juncture what interests do we have in Iraq which keep ust here?
I for one support Israel and her absolute right to defend herself. But I certainly do not want us to start another unnecessary war for Israel's benefit. Not cool.


What interests do the US have in bombing Iran? For the life of me I can't figure it out. Hell, for that matter, at this juncture what interests do we have in Iraq which keep ust here?
I for one support Israel and her absolute right to defend herself. But I certainly do not want us to start another unnecessary war for Israel's benefit. Not cool.

Posted by moder8 at 2008-05-11 05:

Same interest we had in invading Iraq.

PetroDollar.

Iraq abandoned it. We invaded. Iraq now uses the Petrodollar Iran threatened to abandon it and open its own oil bourse (thats when we discovered their nuclear weapons program). They pulled back.

Welp, they up and just did it again.

I'm under the assumption that our heads of state realize this country lives off its currency being the currency of OPEC. The hegemony of the almighty dollar is what keeps us afloat despite our massive trade deficits. The moment a major provider (read IRaq,IRan) break from that, others may follow suit.

We can't allow that.

Gustagus-
How do you feel about being the bully?

For the US to provoke Iran, unless they directly attack Israel, would be a major mistake on a couple fronts. One the price of gas would hit $6.00 to $8.00 a gallon within 3 weeks and this would escalate to more than a surgical air war.
Iran has the capability with its long range missiles to respond with an attack on our forces in the region as well as an attack on Israel.
Unless we are going to bring back the draft this pre-emptive strike could lead to World War III.

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