Good, that's one less asshole taking up our space, food, energy and other resources.

MEMBER,

I agree.

Now we can get some justice in a legal system dominated by flaming liberal judges and the ACLU.

In the US at this time there are a huge amount of total scum bags that need killing badly. These idiots in a best of all possible scenario aren't worth 5cents. It is more likely that same 5 cents would be enough to cause them to rob you.

Let us stop with the bleeding heart crap, make an absolute determination of quilt and get to the end without this ceremony of death.

At such a time as an individual is given a death sentence, every possible method of interogation that is drug, hypnotism what every method(without torture) to get a positive confirmation of quilt. In many cases even this isn't needed as there was photographic or other such definite forms of proof. At such time, execution of sentence is immediate. In such instances where it isn't possible to determine proof to a degree that can't argued. Life without is as bad as we can go. But, ten years down the road, the criminal confesses to anyone. Execution of sentence-now.

It isn't a perfect system but with all rights removed by the imposition of a death sentence the real truth should come out. It might result in freedom or much more likely a lot less time for death row prisoners.

Heartless? Yep. The people out there doing the killing didn't care why should you? It is true that death row inmates just love bleeding hearts. It keeps them alive long past when even bad judgement would have killed the mad dogs.

I wonder how the last three posts will feel if BushCo sends them to the to one of Haliburtons New Prisons accidently because they were put on a Terrorist Watch list, like Cat Stevens and Ted Kennedy. A simple name match is sufficient.

That explains the relative scarcity of Rtard posts today!!! They are all too busy masturbating over this exciting news. All is well again with the 'right to life' crowd.

What do you suppose that cost? $10 worth of drugs?

I'll bet he dosen't murder anyone again.

AXE,

I woke up todat with a huge erection, and now I know why, thanks

The fascists and lunatics are having a field day. My heart bleeds - not so much for the man We The People murdered in Georgia as for the low estate to which so-called humans can sink. herm

It's about fucking time they ended moratium.

HERM,

You bleeding hearts make me want to vomit.

"I wonder how the last three posts will feel if BushCo sends them to the to one of Haliburtons New Prisons accidently because they were put on a Terrorist Watch list, like Cat Stevens and Ted Kennedy. A simple name match is sufficient."

Given that those three posts dealt with the death penalty, I'd like to see one example of anyone being put to death simply for being on a terrorist watch list.

FWTHOM,

Don't let Herm's soft exterior fool ya...He prefers to murder innocent babies by the million who don't get an attorney or a trial....

And I suppose that no one has ever been falsely convicted of murder ever in the United States.

Nah, they are always 100% correct in the verdict.

726,

If you can prove the jury screwed up...get a retrial. You don't screw the whole value system up because SOMETIMES jurors don't do their jobs right.

"Don't let Herm's soft exterior fool ya...He prefers to murder innocent babies by the million who don't get an attorney or a trial...."

Innocent babies indeed! That would be funny were it not so pathetic. To Ryker, on the other hand, human rights end at birth. herm

Herm,

Yeah, real funny! So, the babies aren't innocent, then?

I don't think a guy who's been through trials and appeals and everything has been deprived of human rights. He has, however, by resorting to murder, chosen to live as an animal, and thereby forfeits the protections afforded someone who respects the human rights of others.

Even the wrongly-convicted executee had a better chance at life than the millions of babies who don't even get bad attorneys and crooked juries.

I don't mind you pro-deathers being in favor of killing lots of people. You're not alone in that. That's a position. But to defend the lives of criminals while working hard to kill babies by the million is simply an untenable position. Insisting the babies aren't babies is not a defense...it is a simple avoidance of blatant biological fact....If you were pro-death for babies and criminals, I'd have more respect for your position as actually being a position....

Jon baby, it's not about the guy who committed the murder, a guy I admit is scum and an asshole. It's about ME not wanting to be part of someone else's - society's - murder of another human being.

Those "millions of babies" about which you keep slobbering: I've explained that, but you don't want to listen. If you were in a clinic, there were a fire and you had a choice between saving a tray with 30 fertilized eggs or one breathing two-year-old, which would you choose? YOU might pause to think. Most of us would not.

Jon baby, YOU favor killing humans. I favor reproductive rights to keep women with unwanted pregnancies from the perils of back alley butcher shops. I also think the death penalty demeans ME. Come on, which of us is REALLY "pro-life"? herm

Only a leftie could possibly hold those two ideas in their head at the same time. The pressure of the cognitive dissonance would make a normal human beings head explode!

Which two ideas? I know of NO rightie who ever had two ideas. herm

If you can prove the jury screwed up...get a retrial.

After you are dead, it is hard to get a new trial.

I don't mind you pro-deathers being in favor of killing lots of people. You're not alone in that.

Yes, they have everyone on the right that is pro death penalty and pro war.

You don't screw the whole value system up because SOMETIMES jurors don't do their jobs right.


Yes, let's execute people because they MAY be guilty.

And it is not just jurors that don't do their jobs right. Google the Duke Lacross case if you wish.

Herm,

The choice you present, baby or momma, is, in the vast number of cases, a false one. I've pointed that out before, but you don't listen. Really, it is perfectly easy to keep both alive and well in the vast majority of cases. In cases where momma's life is endangered, of course it's a no-brainer that we side with momma. It's just that those relatively few instances have never been the abortions being talked about.

So, I guess your conscience dictates that you don't want to be sullied by association with murder, unless the murderer is an abortionist. Well, that's simply not a very ethically convincing stance.

Really, your ethical position would be enhanced if you simply sided with the jury, who has more facts than you, and trusted that in most cases, they do the best they can.

726,

There is no "may be guilty" about it. If you're on death row, then the citizens and judges responsible for deciding the fate of this criminal have gone through the process of establishing guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. By definition, said convict has been granted his civil rights and found guilty. It's true, sometimes facts come to light which require a change in the verdict...the system allows for that. But, when the evidence points to guilt as decided fair and square by the system as set up by law, then unless more info comes up, said criminal is subject to the punishments defined by the system, up to and including death by expensive injection. Murderers have no right of expectation of such treatment, given their displayed contempt for human rights, but the system grants it anyway. When it plays out and the decision gets made, execute the sentence...Do some people get unfairly convicted...well, as long as judges and juries are something short of omniscient, of course they do. So what? If we waited for diving certainty on everythng, we couldn't make any decisions at all..

"... it is perfectly easy to keep both alive and well in the vast majority of cases."

Jon, you play dumb for a reason, I presume. We are talking about women who, for reasons that are none of my business, opt not to carry a pregnancy to term. They have a right to do that SAFELY."

"...unless the murderer is an abortionist. Well, ...'

Well, Jon, I don't know of any abortionist who has committed murder. I do know that YOUR "Christian" people have murdered at least five clinic workers.

"Really, your ethical position would be enhanced if you simply ... trusted that in most cases, (jurors) do the best they can."

The best they can sounds noble, Jon. I presume you'd pull the lever, or whatever they do today, on the basis of jurors having Done The Best They Can. herm

I hope that one of these days the United States becomes enlightened enough to abolish the Death Penalty PERMANENTLY. All the Death Penalty is is State Sanctioned killing after all.

Larry Mohr

Yeah, real funny! So, the babies aren't innocent, then?

A bag of cells residing in an organ does not a baby make.

And even if the abortion took place minutes before birth it is in every way kinder than the murder of an adult. Oh I get it - cells have feelings too.

You really are lunatics, basing all your moral judgements of innocence and retribution on religious works created in part by the ancestors of the 'towel-heads' you so loathe today.

Betterbled,


Zygote
Fetus
Infant
Toddler
Juvenile
Teen
Young-adult
Middle age
Golden years
Elderly

Different stages of development and it's the same person throughout those very stages.

JJ, you can put sperm and ovum ahead of zygote, perhaps preceded by "twinkle in your parent's eye."

JJ, you can follow elderly with corpse, fossil and fond memory. So what the hell is your point? You want fetal suffrage? The vote for zygote? Hey, it rhymes. herm

It's about ME not wanting to be part of someone else's - society's - murder of another human being.

Look up the word "murder" herm.

Herm,


JJ, you can follow elderly with corpse, fossil and fond memory.

The difference being living tissue vs. dead tissue.



The vote for zygote?

That was pretty good.

"The difference being living tissue vs. dead tissue."

I was gonna make a funny about dead tissues being used Kleenexes.

But godammit, JJ, there is a huge difference between tissued and people, and you don't need me to clarify THAT for you.

Goat, you may define murder any way you like. I'm gonna define it as the wanton deliberate killing of a human being. To me, it means what I want it to mean, no more and no less. It does not include terminated pregnancies. herm

Goat, you may define murder any way you like. I'm gonna define it as the wanton deliberate killing of a human being.

I don't make definitions. They are commonly accepted by the people who speak the language. That one person makes his own definition is meaningless.

But if it blows air up your skirt, go for it and have a nice conversation with yourself in hermspeak.