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Friday, May 02, 2008

MIAMI -- A Canadian captured in Afghanistan at age 15 can be tried for murder in the Guantanamo war crimes court, a U.S. military judge ruled in rejecting claims that he was a child soldier who should be rehabilitated rather than prosecuted.

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Spud tater french fry au gratin mashed boiled fried hash browns hash brownies hash baked oh yeah, baked.

eye for an eye. The way it was and should be.

This 15 year old boy is a CHILD.

He needs T.L.C.

Be Well.

Skippy-

Your compassion attack is overwhelming.

We should make him ready every one of Spuds loving posts here on the DR as punishment. Surely a fate worse than death.

Bee Swell

Sorry but I don't understand.

What does Spud have to do with this?

15 year old soldier, well, that would mean this child wouldn't be able to drive, just entered first year of high school and we can see the righties have no moral compassion.

I also see these righties take something from someone else and attribute it to someone else. The true party of responsibility.

"I don't understand"

Posted by $war


No.

Really?

Well if this kid gets tried for murder, what do you say we put Bush on trial for war crimes? Sure he's older, but the maturity level's around the same and the crime is exactly the same.

Why don't you apologist for this 15 year old go explain to the families of his victims why he should only have a time out.

Bee Swell

We should make him ready every one of Spuds loving posts here on the DR as punishment. Surely a fate worse than death.

Bee Swell

Posted by Crackpipejunkie


...and "readying" your posts is a freakin' joy.

This kid (allegedly) threw a grenade that killed a US soldier during a firefight in Afghanistan. Only by a tortuous twisting of the law is this person not a POW, regardless of his age.

anyway he's lucky he wasn't killed on the field immediately after he surrendered.


Why don't you apologist for this 15 year old go explain to the families of his victims why he should only have a time out.

Bee Swell

Posted by Crackpipejunkie at 2008-05-03 02:24 AM | Reply | Flag:


Go 'apologist' to your english teacher during the next detention.

Since the Righty Tighties declare these folks are terrorists, Then they must declare that these terrorists perpetrate acts of terrorism. Since terrorist acts are deamed to be criminal acts and NOT acts of war. The Righty Tighties SHOULD be demanding that these folks be brought up on terrorism charges and receive either convictions or aquitals. They must also demand that if they are in fact Not Guilty they must be released without delay.

Larry Mohr

His lawyer, a US Navy officer, claims in separate NYT article that there is no evidence this kid threw a hand grenade and also declares the GITMO legal system a farce. Quite a statement from a US military officer. But of course, ignorant right wing losers know better than this Lieutenant Commander, who has direct access to all the facts of the case.

New York Times

ok, let me spell it out, really clear.

That that mother fucker, and hang his neck from a rope until hes fucking dead.

That "kid" killed an American. He should be tortured endlessly, then hung from a fucking tree, then buried in pigskin in the back of a dog breeders farm.

Piece of shit terrorist.

Kuma

You shouldn't get too excited about killing anyone who has fought against the American military.

After all in Iraq, we are currently trying to make friends with Sunnis, Baathists, and other Arab Nationalists- The same people who have been killing Americans. We've realized (belatedly) that they are key to any hope of a stable Iraqi democracy.

Also, it turns out that the IED, mortar, and sniper attacks come largely from Shiites, the group we invaded Iraq in part to 'liberate'.

You see, life's complicated. More so than you might be able to understand.

Bush Fascism Comin'On Strong - by Erasing the Line Between Right and Wrong!
Well why the hell wouldn't the Bush Govt reject the "Child soldier defense" - seeing that they've rejected every other democratic,civil and human right including the US Constitution,the Bill of Rights,Habeas Corpus,the Geneva Convention,any protections against illegal search and seizure;wiretapping,vote rigging,illegal and fradulent wars etc! In fact wihout flag waving and brain dead America,Bush & Co. would be in deep shit!

Kuma, torturing, hanging from trees, burying in pigskin?

No asshole, you are the piece of shit terrorist.

ok, let me spell it out, really clear.

That that mother fucker, and hang his neck from a rope until hes fucking dead.

That "kid" killed an American. He should be tortured endlessly, then hung from a fucking tree, then buried in pigskin in the back of a dog breeders farm.

Piece of shit terrorist.

Kuma



Tell us what you really feel.

Don't hold back....

Should R. Kelly go free? A 15 year-old "kid" decided not to move out of the way when she saw his piss coming.

"But she was too young at 15, such a fragile age, she can't make mature decisions" (like whether or not to get pissed on).

How old is 15 really?

The United States signed a Treaty called the "Child Soldier Protocol, that outlaws recruitment of combatants under age 18 and requires governments to help child soldiers recover and reintegrate into society."

But it seems Treaties signed by the United States can't be trusted. Ask any Native American. It makes you wonder why people would even ask the United States to sign them any more. We even threw out the Geneva Convention, and torture restictions. How about you--would you enter into a Treaty with a country with a record like the United States?

WILLIAMJ

Good point about the Sunnis. Yes, many have killed Americans. No, the Right doesn't care about that now.

Yes, they once cared about it enough to shoot down Iraqi amnesty plans. Yes, these "terrorists" are now on payroll and are complimented publically by those who were describing them as evil incarnate a little more than a year ago.

Yes, if someone like you or I had attempted such a switcheroo many Rightists on this blog would be calling for our execution preceded by our torture.

Yes, life is complicated. But a lot less so if you have no sense of shame.

Since terrorist acts are deamed to be criminal acts and NOT acts of war. The Righty Tighties SHOULD be demanding that these folks be brought up on terrorism charges and receive either convictions or aquitals.

Posted by LarryMohr

I thought that was the loosie lefties stand on the issue. You make a strong arguement for not taking prisoners.

I don't know how you would expect that for someone that is captured in a battle.

GAS the fucking kid. He is a KILLER pure and simple. If some of you libs think different and that he should be rehabilitated, well take him inot your home for a bit of TLC.

in to

If he was caught fighting without a uniform then follow the Geneva Conventions and give him a cigarette, a blindfold and a bullet in the heart. Forget all the compassion that Bush is showing to these people. Civilians fighting soldiers sign their own death warrant.

"Gas the fucking kid"

Classic. Thanks, dude.

"Civilians fighting soldiers sign their own death warrant...."

Well, that would necessarily include--

1) Russian partisans fighting invading Nazis.

2) Mujadeen forces fighting invading Soviets.

3) Armed American "contractors" in Iraq.

Where do you people come from, and exactly how much time do y'all spend staring at your navels?

It's not that difficult to suss out the answer on this one. This is a child. If we refuse to try our own children as adults, this should be no different. It's called "consistency." Try it sometime; You might like it.

Also, if you voted for The-Worst President-In-History, I'm afraid your right to vomit your silly, ill-conceived opinions all over total strangers has been revoked. Please go back to yelling impotently about minorities, atheists, terrorism and taxes in the privacy of your own home and keep your stupids from polluting the internets. We're working hard to make the forum of public opinion retard-free, thank you for doing your part! --The Management

Now, in regards to Number #3 above, since technically it's non-soldiers fighting non-soldiers then no one owes anyone anything.

Ah, warfare in it's purest state. In this specific case, so damned pure we will rarely have higher goals (save perhaps a paycheck) to distract from the violence offered by either party.

Where do you people come from? And why do you think you're "realists", save for the fact that in real life you think as well as bags of hammers?

When civilians try to fight with soldiers it can get ugly. Soldiers have the bad habit of killing everyone in sight and burning cities to the ground to stop civilians from fighting them. This has gone on for thousands of years, and why it was addressed by the Geneva Conventions. It needs to be known by partisans of any stripe that they will be subject to immediate execution if caught. This was done to discourage civilians from becoming involved in order to SAVE lives. If we coddle them by taking them prisoner it will just encourage more to join them. It will just be a matter of time before a tragedy takes place and a lot of innocent people could die.

US Military is the only "Illegal Combatant" in Iraq and Afghanistan!!!

The USA never had any legal right,in the first place,to be in,let alone invade Afghanistan or Iraq!!! If anyone was an illegal combatant in those countries it was certainly the US Military!


US Military is the only "Illegal Combatant" in Iraq and Afghanistan!!!

The USA never had any legal right,in the first place,to be in,let alone invade Afghanistan or Iraq!!! If anyone was an illegal combatant in those countries it was certainly the US Military!

Posted by AntiCadillac at 2008-05-03 07:32 PM | Reply | Flag


Somebody has been smoking WAY to many banana peels. Try reading a history book by someone who has had a bath since 1968.

"Try reading a history book sometime...."

I had thought you hadn't demonstrated that you had. But keep on blithering. That bit that we need to kill people in order to save them was precious.

"It needs to be known to partisans of any stripe they will be subject to immediate execution if caught...."

I've never heard a more rabid proponent of trinitarian warfare (just look it up). Frankly, you sound like Lord Voldemort justifying his future hoped-for execution of Harry Potter.

AntiCad's only half right. Iraq was illegal. Back to the kid... Gas him? Do we administer the death penalty to juveniles who perform drive-bys?

You see---You "coddle" others when you make them prisoners---It's so much more humane just to kill them outright.

Where do you people come from?

Zed, we are not trying to be more humane by killing them, we are trying to discourage others from joining them. If they know they can just throw up their hands and get a vacation in Gitmo then this will never end. The option of attempting to surrender is a courtesy from one soldier to another. It may seem cruel, but it works. It worked in the occupation of the South after the Civil War, the Phillipine Occupation, Germany and Japan after WWII.

Two countries is the only answer for the people of America. We are two countries. One country is paranoid ans wants to take over the world and nuke those that disagree. The other is for peace and logic. The two countries will never ever reconcile. Two countries is the only answer. Then a nice big war--with nukes and total destruction. Then the world will have peace.

The United States signed a Treaty called the "Child Soldier Protocol, that outlaws recruitment of combatants under age 18 and requires governments to help child soldiers recover and reintegrate into society."

But it seems Treaties signed by the United States can't be trusted. Ask any Native American. It makes you wonder why people would even ask the United States to sign them any more. We even threw out the Geneva Convention, and torture restictions. How about you--would you enter into a Treaty with a country with a record like the United States?

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