Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Tuesday, April 22, 2008

President Bush has set a record he'd presumably prefer to avoid: the highest disapproval rating of any president in the 70-year history of the Gallup Poll. In a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken Friday through Sunday, 28% of Americans approve of the job Bush is doing; 69% disapprove.

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Most unpopular President Ever...

the highest disapproval rating of any president in the 70-year history of the Gallup Poll.

Um... America is older then 70 years...

Huh huh hu hu hu huh.... he said ever.

Lame Ducks are always annoying!

Bush sucks and he is sticking it to us with oil now!

Impressive. Copying the 1st sentence verbatim and arguing with it by using it to prove what you inferred was wrong. That's why I look up to you, Rob.

Of course the fact that the Democratic Congress is rated even lower escapes the media's notice. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

This poll reeks of Monday morning quarterbacking.

Loser

No Shit Sherlock. I could have told You that.

Larry Mohr

Ya can fool 28% of the people all of the time.

Vern, Oorah, Sniper et al. how do you like being a certifiable fringe element? Aint it lonely way out there on the right wing?

Ya'll be sure to bathe if you ever want to rejoin the main stream cause ya been swimmin in a stink pool, and the rest of the country has had about all the stench of you, and W and his fuckedupitude that they can reasonably stand.

Here's the news Vern, The Dem congress is gettin reelected with a working majority and a Dem POTUS.

See you at the inauguration. :? )


This poll reeks of Monday morning quarterbacking.

Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch at 2008-04-22 11:15 PM |


That's when you know your quarterback sucks dumbass.

Bush sucks and he is sticking it to us with oil now!

Posted by Unclesam at 2008-04-22 11:05 PM


Bush sure is sticking it to us.

When Bush took office oil was about $20 a barrel.
Today it's pushing $120 a barrel.

Bush has screwed our country over every way possible and he's not done yet.

So he beat Harry Truman by 2%. Not bad.

I wonder what our grandkids will say in 50 years?


Of course the fact that the Democratic Congress is rated even lower escapes the media's notice. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


Posted by UFM82 at 2008-04-22 11:05 PM


Republicans still have the power to stop the progress the dems would have made. The dem "majority" is Lieberman.

I wonder what our grandkids will say in 50 years?

Posted by Mato at 2008-04-22 11:31 PM |


I doubt they'll be speaking English if we keep electing traitors like Bush. Best Al Qaeda recruiter EVAR. I wonder how much bin Ladens family paid him for his services.

I wonder what our grandkids will say in 50 years?

Posted by Mato


They'll be saying what the fuck were you thinking in 2000?
Then again, given the dumbing down, maybe not...

beating harry truman by only 2 percent...
hhhmmm
harry has been remembered in a not to shabby a light in the big scheme of things.
but we all know that w sucks... that really isn't the issue.
what, at least from my desk, is the point is the small percentage of america who still support him.
those i've found in discussions are the evangelicals. i've nothing against religious affiliations (save one or two)... tis their life, etc...
but to be blinded by the light to the point where they can still support this guy is beyond believing in talking snakes or magical underwear.
faith is just that... just leave it out of politics.
but with w, we've had eight years of math that simply doesn't add up... unless you're a far right, fear mongering, monosyllabic, bi-ped... or making lots of money off of the war.
i'm afraid tis more of the far right crusaders than those making the bucks.

all the best

"Of course the fact that the Democratic Congress is rated even lower escapes the media's notice. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm."

Or that the Republicans in Congress are rated lower still.

But that even escaped your notice, didn't it?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

I dedicate this tune to George W. Bush, a man given the opportunity (not to mention a willing Congress) to do everything right for our country but instead did everything wrong.

Time will not let people ever forget his dishonored legacy for decades and it will take a long time to recover from all he and his Administration have done to ruin this country. We manufacture nothing anymore, millions of jobs are lost, we are in an endless and needless war in Iraq, we have the biggest trade deficit in history, and our country has been sold out piece by piece due to Bush's endless quest to privatize and sell out our nation.

This is for you, Bush:

"Nowhere Man" - The Beatles

Northguy3 You gotta understand if they were dumb enough to vote for Dubya in 2000 their Grandchildren's DNA IQ quotent will be greatly reduced. You know stupid is as stupider does. No wonder home schooling should not happen.

Larry Mohr

"When Bush took office oil was about $20 a barrel.
Today it's pushing $120 a barrel."


No question that high oil prices hurt Bush, but that's due to a frightening level of ignorance among the population about economics. (and the imbecile population subset seems especially well represented on this board)

I don't like everything that Bush has done either, but he is not responsible for the high price of oil. That's simply a function of high international demand.

I don't think there's very much in the short term that either Bush or Congress can do about it. (and neither can either of the two jackasses running for the democratic party nomination) What they will do if they start meddling with the market, is have us all standing in gas lines.

Who the hell were they supposed to vote for in 2000 Mr. "Pseudo Green Alias Karl Marx III"?

"I don't like everything that Bush has done either, but he is not responsible for the high price of oil. That's simply a function of high international demand."

And what effect, if any, do you believe Bush's Operation Iraqi Liberation played in all this?


I doubt they'll be speaking English if we keep electing traitors like Bush. Best Al Qaeda recruiter EVAR. I wonder how much bin Ladens family paid him for his services.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob

They'll be saying what the fuck were you thinking in 2000?
Then again, given the dumbing down, maybe not...

Posted by northguy3


Ha! The consensus.

Instability in the oil rich middle east has more to do with the price of Oil today than that stupid Supply and Demand excuse. If Your neighborhood is being shot at while You are baking a cake aren't You going to charge more for the cake than what it would cost if there was no shooting going on in the neighborhood??

Larry Mohr


Who the hell were they supposed to vote for in 2000 Mr. "Pseudo Green Alias Karl Marx III"?

Posted by Gimme_a_Scotch at 2008-04-22 11:58 PM | Reply


Yes. Better than the traitorous lying bastard in the WH now.

Good point Dan. I don't think anyone has quantified the amount of fuel that's been wasted in Iraq. 5 years of hauling freight out of Kuwait, the tanks, personnel carriers, Humvees, choppers and all manner of aircraft military and civilian--it must add up to a hell of a lot of fuel.

Ultimately though the market is based on speculation, greed, and the decline of the dollar.

I still think we can reverse it by exploiting all sources within our borders and mandate that it be sold domestically. But I have yet to hear anyone suggest anything like that.

No shit, Sherlock. Mega-old news.

What they will do if they start meddling with the market, is have us all standing in gas lines.


Posted by nmg_no at 2008-04-22 11:57 PM | Reply


I must have missed the part where they said they were going to start meddling in the market. Bushs meddling in the market has tripled the cost---so far. I think his goal of $5.00 a gallon is still reachable.

I would think that withdrawing the troops and putting that money into alternative fuels would be a much better way to spend the money. Then there wouldn't be any worry over oil prices.

"NMG"....Since 1980 the Republicians have blamed Jimmy Carter for the long gas lines, high inflation an everything else taught would stick. Now how convenient that for you Fucks on the right to say well the President really don't have much to do with the economy or the price of fuel, do you fucks have any shame????

"ROB THE A HOLE"....Great name fits so well, GALLUP an polling in general is 70 years old. Read the whole article ASSHOLE you may learn something. 28% approval pretty soon your idiots will be able to have a meeting at your house!!!!!

I don't think anyone has quantified the amount of fuel that's been wasted in Iraq. 5 years of hauling freight out of Kuwait, the tanks, personnel carriers, Humvees, choppers and all manner of aircraft military and civilian--it must add up to a hell of a lot of fuel.

Posted by OzarkAggie at 2008-04-23 12:29 AM

Good point. It is very possible this war has wasted and burned up more fuel than it was supposed to save, if you follow the Iraq was all about the oil scenario.

All the hydrocarbons released that really didn't have to.


Jabberwocky

So what is this war for? Fighting terrorism?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The left and right don't like Bush. Thats certain.

But do NOT say he sucks and equate it to oil prices.

The President cannot do a damn thing to lower oil prices except remove the taxes.

If you think the President sucks because high oil prices, then that makes you a dumb, stupid, fucktard liberal moron.

Kuma

"The President cannot do a damn thing to lower oil prices except remove the taxes."

You could not be more wrong.

The President cannot do a damn thing to lower oil prices except remove the taxes."

You could not be more wrong.

Posted by Danforth


Oh really?

Please enlighten us with your wisdom.

One is releasing the strategic oil reserves.

So you're proven wrong, that easily.

What an idiot you must be.

What does that do?

Oh, yeah, release lower priced oil that we have to replace with higher priced oil.

Yeah, your got that one figured out, gomer.

"release lower priced oil that we have to replace with higher priced oil."

So what? You claimed there was nothing the President could do, and you were wrong.

No changing the goalposts now.

Again, you made a claim, and were proven wrong, quite easily. Any further attempt to pretend you weren't wrong is just bullshit spin.

So what? You claimed there was nothing the President could do, and you were wrong.

No changing the goalposts now.

Again, you made a claim, and were proven wrong, quite easily. Any further attempt to pretend you weren't wrong is just bullshit spin.

Posted by Danforth


Hey! einstein

We are talking about lowering the price not raising the price.

Sheesh! What a dolt!

"We are talking about lowering the price not raising the price."

Exactly. And if the President released the strategic oil reserves, the supply would increase, lowering prices.

I realize you have to have attended an Econ 101 class to understand the concept of supply and demand, but with every post, you're proving the "dolt" is the guy in your mirror.

Wouldn't releasing the SOR lower the price of oil beings we wouldn't be importing as much during that time period? Thereby reducing the cost at the pump.

Larry Mohr

Larry,

Sshhhhh. Mato hasn't passed middle school yet, so those concepts are beyond his ken.

Exactly. And if the President released the strategic oil reserves, the supply would increase, lowering prices.

No, because it forces the government to purchase at higher prices which drives up the price.

Wouldn't releasing the SOR lower the price of oil beings we wouldn't be importing as much during that time period? Thereby reducing the cost at the pump.

Larry Mohr


No. Son. You don't get it, hush.

What a drizzling idiot You are Mato.

Larry Mohr

Why would the Government pay higher prices for oil when the price per barrel would be reduced globally?? Seems like a lack of common sense to state otherwise to Me.

Larry Mohr

"...it forces the government to purchase at higher prices which drives up the price."

No it doesn't. The government can wait until the price recedes to re-buy. And increased supply reduces prices, something you'll learn in class someday, provided you make it that far and pay attention.

In the meantime, you're parading your ignorance with each new post. Please don't stop; this is too much fun.

How much would the SOR relieve the prices at the pump? Seems to me that the growing economies in Asia, with their high demand for oil is what's causing the price of oil to skyrocket. That and greedy OPEC.

"How much would the SOR relieve the prices at the pump?"

I don't know, and you don't know, but that's not the point. Even if it were one penny, for one day, that proves me right and Kuma & Mato wrong.

What a drizzling idiot You are Mato.

Larry Mohr

Posted by LarryMohr


That's it?

Damn, your weak.

If Polls are taken from the current populace about a President during his current term, I would think Lincoln would rate the lowest.
Yet somehow he's still considered a hero. Funny how History will change views over the years.

Well, me and many others could care less who's right in y'alls little fight. It was a legitimate question.

It's Damn, You're weak NOT Damn, Your weak. Just a FYI

Larry Mohr

Yes, Lincoln would probably rate the lowest.

President Bush is the Anti-Christ!!!

Revelation 13:16
He also forced everyone, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark.

I think in the future we will have even worse leaders since the world is falling apart.

World has been "falling apart' since Cain and Abel.

Bush has been filling the strategic reserve since Cheney's task force. One problem was that oil companies were issuing credits rather than delivering the oil. Not sure if they got that straightened out, but at this point it doesn't matter. The oil was bought by the government at prices starting at $25-$30 a barrel.

This is stuff they pumped out of the Gulf. Using that to decrease the amount we import would definitely lower both the price at the pump and reduce the trade deficit.

There's wells that are capped. We should drill the Gulf and ANWR as well. There's probably a lot more oil up there than is currently estimated. Look at what the Brits and Dutch are pumping out of the North Seas. And instead of selling it overseas we should mandate that it be used domestically.

Drill, pump, and reduce imports.

How does that NOT make sense?

"World has been "falling apart' since Cain and Abel."

Is that because we're all descendants of a guy who killed his brother, or because we're all descendants of a guy who married his sister?

"How does that NOT make sense?"

Well, for one, sucking every drop dry from ANWR wouldn't do what a 2mpg rise in the CAFE standards would save in one year.

It was a figure of speech...in the other words, since we've been killing each other over everything.

Bush isn't helping the world but I don't think he has control over the price of oil or the economy. He might be able to tweak some interest rates but that can only do so much. The future will be worse even after he is out office.


articles.moneycentral.msn.com

They know this is their last hooray.

This summers oil prices will hit the stratosphere and somehow mellow out in the nov-dec timeframe.

"I think in the future we will have even worse leaders since the world is falling apart."

Posted by rick1234567890 at 2008-04-23 02:29 A


When was it together?

I wonder what our grandkids will say in 50 years?

Posted by Mato


don't know, but it will probably be in Chinese...

Interesting.. you know, when I go on the US Dept of Energy website, and pull up the statistics for barrels of oil on hand since 1982.. its AMAZING to see, we have jsut about the SAME amount of oil on hand NOW as we had in 1990, 1995, 2000, and 2005..
Sounds to me like the AMERICAN PUBLIC is STUPID enough to buy what ever the NEW REPORTS without doing anything to check the facts.. Of course, we TRUST the NEWS.. I mean, THEY went and CHECKED their sources. DIDN'T THEY.....

Blaming BUSH is like Blaming China.. NONE of IT has ANYTHING to do with REALITY..

THINK of YOURSELVES!

"President Bush is the Anti-Christ!!!

Revelation 13:16
He also forced everyone, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark."

Bush wishes he could have the charisma, leadership ability and organizational skills of the Anti-Christ.

When Bush took office oil was about $20 a barrel.
Today it's pushing $120 a barrel.

Bush has screwed our country over every way possible and he's not done yet.



Posted by CalifChris at 2008-04-22 11:28


could you please be more specific as to this connection. just connecting dots as far as timetables is really not enough. can you give us some info on how any of his policies were directly responsible for oil speculators jacking up this price......and if you say iraq...okay....but then this price should have been hit soon after the LIBERATION OF IRAQ, dont you think.

"Damn, your weak."

Posted by Mato at 2008-04-23 02:24 AM

Nothing like waking up and reading the self-retorting retorts from the night before.

Of course the fact that the Democratic Congress is rated even lower escapes the media's notice. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm."

Or that the Republicans in Congress are rated lower still.

But that even escaped your notice, didn't it?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Posted by Danforth at 2008-04-22 11:4



uh can I ask a question and it sort of comes back to robs statement....so the dem congress has lowest approval ratings ever.....and yet you say a congress PREVIOUS TO THAT ONE has rated lower.....so how is that possible? that the one that came first has lower when the one that came after that is said to have lowest EVER.....is this some sort of liberal math?



Jimmy Carter was responsible for evey negative world event that took place when he was in office. Yet poor little Georgie isn't responsible for a damn thing. Typical fundie thinking.

NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE;

please read right here all of the leftists calling for the release of the petroleum reserves. read it very carefully because if he were to do that and there were then to be a severe oil shortage, these same people would be cussing him while they were sitting in the gas line on alternate days for releasing those petroleum reserves. as well as the even higher prices for almost everything.

look.....this may surprise some of you but we on the right are paying for gas at THE SAME PUMPS YOU ARE....there isnt some secret place we all go to an buy it for 2 bucks a gallon to pay us for support of bush. if you read carefully, you willread that most of us from the right know that bush might can tweak it a little but he has NO REAL CONTROL over these price..

Drill, pump, and reduce imports.

How does that NOT make sense?

Posted by OzarkAggie at 2008

Well, for one, sucking every drop dry from ANWR wouldn't do what a 2mpg rise in the CAFE standards would save in one year.

Posted by Danforth


interesting two comments here.

first of all...WHY havent we done those things ozzark....maybe you should ask all of the environmental wackos who hold democrat congressmen hostage with their votes. THEY are the ones who have held all of your suggestions up

and then dan chimes in with that same old same old

anwr would help...THERE is no doubt. but what about all of the offshore drilling andwhat of more refinaries which experts say would help with the price.
and the largest find in almost the world.....in the dakotas.....BILLIONS OF GALLONS......does ANYONE REALLY think we will be using any of THAT OIL......OUR OIL...in any of our lifetimes...and WHY wont we......It wont be because of any republicans, I can tell you that....

we on the right are paying for gas at THE SAME PUMPS YOU ARE

This guy thinks his republican leadership is lining up at the pump just like he is. Thats cute.

BLT,

God you are stupid.

A big reason why oil, gold and virtual all other commodities have gone high up in price is because Bush lowered taxes and raised spending creating a big deficit that required the printing of government bonds. LOANS. This devalued the dollar. A direct cause and effect with spiraling gas and food prices.

If you compare increaeses in euro terms they are half of that in dollar terms.

and you say that like the dem leadership is all in california with the actors driving thier electric cars while tooling around in their private jets.
and at least al gore is not a republican manipulating prices for their own fortune. he is all about green and keeping those utility prices down.OOOOPPS FORGOT.....just HOW big of a utility bill does his mansion require?
and edwards. how big is that oil guzzling ranch he owns?

and of course you abuse my point. my point was that ordinary people like me from the right have to pay just as much as you sainted, diverse, and fairness to all liberals have to pay.
we can give an example of a leftists EACH AND EVERY TIME you bring up a rightwinger who has the money to buy as much oil as they want.

God you are stupid.


Posted by furio at 20


hey fuck you asshole.....

thats for the rude opening comment from just another rude cockbite from the left.

so by throwing some extra bucks to us on tax breaks raised the price of gas?
and so I guess if barrywaynehussein is elected and our TAXES ALSO GO SKYHIGH.....then price of oil will go DOWN......I mean if you are right about this, then the opposite should be true...right?????
my comments are that we are all paying out the ass for gas. and the left only wants to blame bush. I guess because they wont have him around much longer.

so frio, if you can try and have even a small amount of manners, answer this.
so how does your equation point out the DRASTIC rise in prices in just the last few months?
as I said initially, you can bring up unrest in middle east and that makes sense,but blaming bush in this case takes a little stretching of the point.
it makes sense that devaluation of dollar would affect many areas, but this much, this soon

and once again, we try and find an issue where we can all get together and find some kind of answer. some way we can tell the government that we are all united and they HAVE to answer to us.....as we did on the immigration bill and as we ALWAYS DO on issues such as women fuckin us over by being able to yell rape AT ANY TIME and almost any sporting issue. what a shame.

the largest find in almost the world.....in the dakotas.....BILLIONS OF GALLONS......does ANYONE REALLY think we will be using any of THAT OIL......OUR OIL...in any of our lifetimes...and WHY wont we......It wont be because of any republicans, I can tell you that....



Interesting.

So you're saying the oil companies won't drill or build refineries because of Democrats and environmentalists.




Furio wasn't that far off maybe.

"and so I guess if barrywaynehussein is elected and our TAXES ALSO GO SKYHIGH.....then price of oil will go DOWN"

Actually paying down the national debt which would require raising taxes (on rich folks no you BLT) would eventually start raising the value of the dollar and thus decrease the price of gas.
Gasoline is a commodity which is fairly stable in value while the dollar has inflated considerably during the Bush administration.

oops..forgot the one topic that never fails to unite all of us here on the old DR..........DICK JOKES!

but how about this.

frio.....I will admit to your theory if you will admit that we need to drill in anwr and the dakotas and maybe build a new refinary or two...all things held up by democrats beholden to environmental wackos......lets see if this price lowering NATIONAL MOVEMENT can be started RIGHT HERE with you and me...........

bushlovertwo,

You are avoiding the impact of the value of the American Dollar sinking like a stone having an impact on the price of oil.

I wonder what our grandkids will say in 50 years?



Grandpa, what did snow look like?

Poppa, will we ever get out of Iraq?

Poppop, the Americans REALLY thought Iraq had WMD?

Granddad, I am hungry, is there NO food in the house?

Grandfather, how come you still have to work?

The President cannot do a damn thing to lower oil prices except remove the taxes.

If you think the President sucks because high oil prices, then that makes you a dumb, stupid, fucktard liberal moron.

Kuma

Posted by Kuma


here is a very simple thing that bush could do.

stop saber rattling for a few weeks.

or perhaps you dont think that the price of oil has anything to do with the occupation of iraq
jittery market will think war less likely and prices will come down.


Yes, Lincoln would probably rate the lowest.

Posted by hirstx




except he was reelected, DURING A CIVIL WAR

sure, got ya

ted.....just go back and look at who has put such costly things to do in order to build a refinary for instance. if a refinary even ADDS ON or improves, they are under the same environmental roadblocks as if it were a Completely NEW refinary and so what happens....NOTHING. no building at all.
why hasnt congress gotten started on anwr? its not all because as the left says, its not enough to make those 2 or 3 moose to move over a few feet.
(moose..plural....mooses, moosi,).
and even if none of thats true......if what people here are saying IS TRUE......then why would all of those greedy republican bastards making all that fortune off of us paying out the ass for gas....why arent they starting to drill and build?
ITS THE DEMS WHO BLOCK ALL OF THAT ALL OF THE TIME.

the oil companies dont want new refineries because that would bring the cost of oil down

"so frio, if you can try and have even a small amount of manners, answer this.
so how does your equation point out the DRASTIC rise in prices in just the last few months?"

Well BLT douchebag it is directly related to the BIG drop in the dollar over the last few months. Don't you ever check the xrates?

"so by throwing some extra bucks to us on tax breaks raised the price of gas?" Yes it did. That and the cheap $100B+ in loans to wall street. It directly added to the debt and devalued the dollar since the money needed to be borrowed from China and Japan. Big buyers of US debt. Maybe you are finally starting to understand basic economics.

okay danni..sweety..lets say you are right......(ouch) J.T.

so in order to bring gas prices down...oh say around saving 200 or lets be LIBERAL about it....( ANOTHER OUCH)...and say 500 a year and my taxes go up...oh say 1000 or more a year.......can you tell me how that keeps me going to the crap tables or the track???
I will now take care of some other things as the REAL world has interupted my retort world so I will be checking when I get back from the "OTHER SIDE".......(cue the x files soundtrack)......

"why arent they starting to drill and build?
ITS THE DEMS WHO BLOCK ALL OF THAT ALL OF THE TIME."

YES. AND THAT IS CORRECT.

They are relatively small reserves that will run out quickly and only postpone the impact of the global shortage a short time and in the process damage the environment. The US needs to become far more fuel efficient before it even thinks about drilling for more oil.

Get rid of your ridiculous pickup truck for a start and stop living in the fucking desert which requires ridiculous amounts of air conditioning.

He might be able to tweak some interest rates but that can only do so much.

And by infusing the market with lower interest rates and cash in a desperate attempt to head off a recession the dollar is dropping like a rock causing the price of oil to soar.

The failure of this administration is that they beleive the recession is being caused by the housing and credit bubble. While IMO they do have some big parts in it, the even bigger fundamental problem with this economy is stagnant wage growth with increasing inflationary prices for heating, energy and food.

Until the cost of food and energy is addressed or wages jump up the consumer will make a choice between eating and gassing up the car and going to the movies and shopping for discretionary items. The house of cards that we have built by relying on a service sector economy is crumbling because demand has dried up.

So to keep cutting rates, devaluing the dollar is pushing up the cost of food and energy forcing consumers to cut back even further.

It really is sad that the warnings that by shifting the economy to a consumer based economy have been ignored.

can you tell me how that keeps me going to the crap tables or the track???


It's always about YOU now isn't it?

That sort of self centered thinking is what has created the economic conditions that we are in.

BLT taxes wouldn't be raised on middle income folks, we can't afford for them to be. It is the wealthy where all the profit from the past seven years has accumulated and that is where the taxes need to increase. That is precisely why Republicans are actually pretending to support John McCain. If he were honest and hadn't flip flopped on Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy his party would be disowning him right this minute.
I would have to say though that the Republicans and now John McCain too really are dangerous to the future of this country.
Four more years of the economic policies that we have now and we will be in a serious depression, hell, we may be headed for one anyway.

"It really is sad that the warnings that by shifting the economy to a consumer based economy have been ignored."

Bingo. But the wealthy can only consume so much which means there will always be shortfalls and the wealthy will keep on getting richer and richer while the poor AND middle class will stagnate. A consumer based economy inordinately benefits the wealthy since not only are they physically limited in their consumption (so much food, gas, etc) they get rich off of the others having to buy the shit that they produce.

Hillarious. Rational Americans know Bush isn't on the ballot.

The only thing McCain has to do at this point is to choose someone moderate and somewhat youthful as his choice for VP and continute breathing until the first Tuesday in November.

What a pathetic gang of panderers the democrat party has become. Turning this election cycle into and exercise in affirmative action has again displayed the stupidity of the party.

Pitting blacks against whites, women against men, hispanics against blacks, gays against hetros, young against the old ain't no way to win elections.

Democrat domestic policy.... It's against them, Insert group here ______________________________ _.

Retards!

I read in the WSJ Saturday, the top 1% in this country owns the most wealth since 1929. And everybody remembers what happened in 1929.

Sad to say it but I agree with Kris P Bacon 100%.


I read in the WSJ Saturday, the top 1% in this country owns the most wealth since 1929. And everybody remembers what happened in 1929.

Posted by BenFranklinn at 2008-04-23 08:49 AM


This time around they'll have the palm islands of Dubai to flee to.

A man who builds his house on sand and all that good stuff.

Bacon's intellect is like a shining light in the shadows.

"Economics Freakonomics, Democrats are retards"
-Bacon-

Ahh, he should win a Pulitzer.

hahahahaha, thats too funny

the republican power is based on dividing americans and getting them to vote against their own interests.

what has the republican done for the socially conservative over th past 14 years

abortion overturned?

gays out of the military?

Gays not able to get married, yes but still have civil unions

death penalty is disappearing

church and state still separate

etc
etc

Bacon's intellect is like a shining light in the shadows.

"Economics Freakonomics, Democrats are retards"
-Bacon-

Ahh, he should win a Pulitzer.

"and yet you say a congress PREVIOUS TO THAT ONE has rated lower.....is this some sort of liberal math?"

No, it's BL2 comprehension problems.

Reread my statement. I said the "Republicans in Congress", not "the former Republican Congress."

I haven't seen an ass kicking like the one BLT has received today in a long time.

He finally had to just leave. Very embarassing.

BLT, here's the deal. You start showing signs of rational, intelligent thought I will stop calling you: fucktard, douchebag, cunt, assmunch, redneck white trailer trash, shit-for-brains, asswipe, numbnut, donkey punched bitch, etc.


BLT, here's the deal. You start showing signs of rational, intelligent thought I will stop calling you: fucktard, douchebag, cunt, assmunch, redneck white trailer trash, shit-for-brains, asswipe, numbnut, donkey punched bitch, etc.

Posted by furio at 2008-04-23 09:05 AM | Reply


What the fuck is wrong with you? Have you gone mad?

I'll tell you what...Sleep on it, and when you can make a rational decision come back here and post.

Never, and I mean NEVER make such absurd proclomations on the retort again.

"What the fuck is wrong with you? Have you gone mad?

I'll tell you what...Sleep on it, and when you can make a rational decision come back here and post.

Never, and I mean NEVER make such absurd proclomations on the retort again."


chairdouche,

I have to give the man ( woman, animal or vegetable) some type of carrot as positive reinforcement.

"Well, for one, sucking every drop dry from ANWR wouldn't do what a 2mpg rise in the CAFE standards would save in one year."

Posted by Danforth

ANWR is is estimated to have about 27 billion barrels of oil of which 10 billion is technically easily recoverable. These new estimates are larger than the old ones.

US uses about 10 million barrels a day so if we only used oil from ANWR it would only last about 3 years (the older estimates were 8 months). However, it could increase our supply by 10% for 30 years which would decrease the price of gas dramatically. It would also reduce our dependence on foreign oil by 1/6 for 30 years.

Those are the numbers I have read. If we had done this before (as Bush Wanted) we would not be in as much trouble now.

chairdouche,

I have to give the man ( woman, animal or vegetable) some type of carrot as positive reinforcement.

Posted by furio at 2008-04-23 09:20 AM | Reply


You think he's capable of remembering such an incentive?

You need to take a time out mister.

Hitler,Stalin, and Castro all had very high approval ratings. Should we now re-evaluate how we see them?

Leaders don't pay attention to approval ratings. I'm not really a fan of Bush. I think he's essentially right on the War, and that's about it, but anybody who thinks that approval ratings have anything to do with anything important is just being a dumb-ass.

"If we had done this before (as Bush Wanted) we would not be in as much trouble now."

Close:

If we had addressed this before (as Carter Wanted) we would not be in as much trouble now."

"Pitting blacks against whites, women against men, hispanics against blacks, gays against hetros, young against the old ain't no way to win elections."

It's been working pretty well for Republicans..

Damn BLT, you are a glutton for punishment..

You bitch about the fact that we aren't drilling in Alaska, but didn't you neocons have a repub president and congressional majority very recently? Why didn't your people take care of that and why do you blame the democrats for it not happening.

Or have you ever researched enough to learn that there just isn't that much fucking oil up there to make a big enough difference anyway?
www.msnbc.msn.com

And then you argue that Bush has nothing to do with oil prices when he has repeatedly vetoed bills to end oil subsidies to his buddies that are making record profits while we approach $4/gallon?

itsgettinghotinhere.org

Its like you have your head inside an ass, inside another ass, inside another ass, and so on ad infinitem...

"Hitler,Stalin, and Castro all had very high approval ratings. "

So did Bush at one time. Are you trying to say Bush has a lot in common with Hitler and Stalin?

"I think he's essentially right on the War, and that's about it,"

I would just love to hear the "thinking" involved in that conclusion.

I would just love to hear the "thinking" involved in that conclusion.

Brown people suck?

It's been working pretty well for Republicans..

I know, I know, it's just another mindless knee jerk "ugh -- republicans bad -- ugh. Me so clever." response from Danni, but still, I have to ask: Can you please give me a single example where pitting groups of people against each other has benefitted the republicans?

How about that anti-gay marriage amendment talk???

How about Reagan's comments about "Welfare CAdillacs."

How about Bush saying "Mexicans are just doing jobs Americans won't do."

How about Republicans calling those who opposed the war traitors???

What the hell do you think the "Southern Strategy" is anyway??

"Can you please give me a single example where pitting groups of people against each other has benefitted the republicans?"

How about a whole bunch of examples, say, a strategy, as admitted by the head of the RNC?

www.usatoday.com

""Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization," Mehlman said at the annual convention of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. "I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong." Mehlman's apology to the NAACP at the group's convention in Milwaukee marked the first time a top Republican Party leader has denounced the so-called Southern Strategy employed by Richard Nixon and other Republicans to peel away white voters in what was then the heavily Democratic South. Beginning in the mid-1960s, Republicans encouraged disaffected Southern white voters to vote Republican by blaming pro-civil rights Democrats for racial unrest and other racial problems."

Danni,

you forgot Terry Schiavo.

How about that anti-gay marriage amendment talk???

That's how they and their constituents feel. Aren't they elected to represent their constituents?

How about Reagan's comments about "Welfare CAdillacs."

If the shoe fits. . .

How about Bush saying "Mexicans are just doing jobs Americans won't do."

See above

How about Republicans calling those who opposed the war traitors???

What elected Republican said this?

"except he was reelected, DURING A CIVIL WAR

sure, got ya"

Posted by truthhurts at 2008-04-23 08:31 AM | Reply


Did he carry the South?

How about a whole bunch of examples, say, a strategy, as admitted by the head of the RNC?

I do not consider that example to be pitting whites against blacks. Even the article says:

...Republicans encouraged disaffected Southern white voters to vote Republican by blaming pro-civil rights Democrats [not blacks: goatman's note] for racial unrest and other racial problems."


Unless of course you are suggesting that non of the pro-civil rights Democrats were white.

What's funny about the mehlman confession, and what show's how truly out of touch republicans can be, is that he expects the NAACP to forgive the GOP for a generation of exploitation by claiming the Michael Corleone defense?

"It's not personal, Son(ny), Its strictly business...."

Oh, well that makes it okay then.

Did he carry the South?

What was the southern US in 1864, bOoB? Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, Maryland?

Yes, he carried the south.

Furio,

Well, in that sense, Bush does have a lot in common with Hitler, Stalin, Castro, and Bill Clinton.

However, my actual point was that approval ratings mean positively nothing. Votes matter, and real leaders understand this, ignore public opinion, and do what they think they're legally allowed to do to protect and improve their country.

"I do not consider that example to be pitting whites against blacks"

You're joking, right? Mehlman admitted as much, but you don't consider that an example?!? In what bizzarro world?

Jon,

My actual point was don't create tenuous links for an analogy.

You want a good analogy? Hitler, Stalin, Castro and Bush were all populist/nationalist leaders who drove their respective countries into financial ruin.

Furio,

Huh? My point was that high approval ratings in opinion polls mean NOTHING. Every president in the history of the US had high approval ratings at one point or another. So do socialist dictators. Does that make them all good, effective leaders?

You're joking, right? Mehlman admitted as much, but you don't consider that an example?!? In what bizzarro world?

In the bizarro world of the spoken and written word.

Does "pro-civil rights Democrats" = "blacks" and "Republicans" = "whites"? If so, you are correct. If not, then you are taking gross interpretation rights with Mehlman's quote.

...Republicans encouraged disaffected Southern white voters to vote Republican by blaming pro-civil rights Democrats [not blacks: goatman's note] for racial unrest and other racial problems.


Did he carry the South?

What was the southern US in 1864, bOoB? Pennsylvania, New York, Connecticut, Maryland?

Yes, he carried the south.

Posted by goatman at 2008-04-23 10:04 AM


My point was that there was no South for him to carry dUmmY. Its not like an election today, so that distinction should be made. Had the South been able to vote, I doubt Lincoln would have been reelected. Carrying the North after the sacrifices made should be a given. It is also very hard to vote for a different leader during a war, and after Gettysburg and Vicksburg, the tide had changed--victory seemed closer.

Politicians today can't ignore the slave state vote like Lincoln did. Too bad. The South has been voting against everything America stands for since they got the vote again. They truly need their own country. So does the rest of America.

My point was that there was no South for him to carry dUmmY

If your mind wasn't so small I may have been able to read it. Sorry.

Goatman, can you read what you posted?

"...by blaming pro-civil rights Democrats..."

If that's not an example, you need a new dictionary.

They were blaming those who dared to believe in equality for blacks. How much more obvious does it have to be?

Danforth

It needs to be much more obvious. Then he still won't get it.

If that's not an example, you need a new dictionary.

Using other resources than a dictionary I see that pro-civil rights democrats are not racially unique. There are whites in that group as well. In fact, during the civil rights movement, (maybe still) that group was by far majority white.

Your retort has validity, but in a different context than the original intent. Enough retorts have passed that you have forgotten what the original request was: a request for an example of republicans pitting one race against another. They were pitting two political groups against each other -- pro and anti civil rights, regardless of race.

It needs to be much more obvious. Then he still won't get it.

Says the guy who ignores all obvious evidence that man landed on the moon and still doesn't get it! LOL

Goatman

It was race against race.

1. How many against equality for blacks were white?

answer: the overwhelming majority. Very few blacks were against equality for blacks.

Of course you dispute this and say that there was no such racial divide. That's because you are a duMMy, and a brainwashed DummY at that.

;-)

but it took seven years of waste, fraud and abuse for a majority to undertand. What does that tell you about the "average" American?

but it took seven years of waste, fraud and abuse for a majority to undertand. What does that tell you about the "average" American?

Posted by nutcase

I think it tells you, more than anything, that Americans are still a good and trusting people, deperate to believe that they can trust what their leaders (or is that representatives?) tell them.... to a fault, unfortunately, but that can change.

Says the guy who ignores all obvious evidence that man landed on the moon and still doesn't get it! LOL

Posted by goatman at 2008-04-23 10:52 AM | Reply


I would say the reverse was true of yourself dummY. Even a video of the Apollo 11 astronauts cheating on their distance from the moon didn't convince you. Even your Starry Night mistake didn't convince you. Either Starry Night was wrong, or the picture from the "moon" was wrong.

;-)

Of course you dispute this and say that there was no such racial divide

Of course you missed the point completely. Wow, am I ever surprised. You need to quit sniffing those fumes from lunar smokestacks, bOoB.

. Even a video of the Apollo 11 astronauts cheating on their distance from the moon didn't convince you.

Nope. And a 6 hour, three video trilogy of much better quality never convinced me there is a Death Star, either.

Call me weird.

Goatman

You're weird.

;-)

You're weird.

Yes I am. But thankfully I'm not delusional and believe every fuzzy youtube.com video narrated by a person with a bad British accent. It could be much, much worse.

Concerning this there is but one question-Does he really rate that high?

We are not qualified to say... only history is!

Anyway Bush is a genius.

I mean look how much money he made for the oil companies....

"When Bush took office oil was about $20 a barrel.
Today it's pushing $120 a barrel."

What a Genius!

"I think he's essentially right on the War, and that's about it,"

Johnny, will you please explain this. I need to know why Bush was right on the war?

so bush thinks like truman who i believe said "i'd rather be write then president-if bush is most unpopular then thst truly proves americans nuts-more than nixon more then carter-in both elections bush got a higher percentage of popular vote then clinton(clinton never got more then 48% of pop.vote)
jasman

"Bush: Most Unpopular President Ever"

Well, duh!

I guess Obama supporters needed something to lift their spirits today in the wake of Hillary's latest victory.

As if ANY elected official could get a positive approval these days. Americans are so dependent upon the nanny state that if anything goes wrong in their lives its Bush's fault. We have turned out to be a failure. All I'm waiting on is the next dying off.

He's GOT to be in the running!!!!

I'm not delusional and believe every fuzzy youtube.com video narrated by a person with a bad British accent.


But you're a sucker for thayght Texus Drawwll aintcha Coot Coot!

But you're a sucker for thayght Texus Drawwll aintcha Coot Coot!

Only when spoken by women with big hair and spandex

Bush was never qualified for his job and therefore sucked at it. This is the prime reason he is unpopular.

The secondary reason Bush is unpopular is that this sucky president spends so much time literally singing and dancing for the nightly news.

He's incompetent as well as undignified. When he's a private citizen once again, I expect more than one person to tell him he's an ass for assigning them nicknames.

"If anything goes wrong it's Bush's fault...."

It's a riot seeing Republicans divorce Bush's actions from rising oil prices.

I'll tell you what: when Bush leaves office we'll dress him in diapers and leave him in a basket on your front doorstep. You find a use for him.

It's a riot seeing Republicans divorce Bush's actions from rising oil prices.


So if a Democrat gets the WH, how long do you think it'll be until gas prices come back down?

If a Democrat gets the WH and raises taxes on the wealthy, gets us out of Iraq, restores pay as you go, and pays down the deficit.....then gas prices might start to come down as the dollar begins to rise in value. Gas prices haven't really gone up, the dollar has just gone down. I read or heard somewhere that if you look at the price of gold and the price of oil they are usually sort of connected.
Of course a recovery would be more complicated than that but those steps would have to be taken to start one.
If you want to fix the credit bubble then wages have to rise and that can only happen with either government hiring or private hiring at higher wages. Since business is more interested in outsourcing it only leaves the government.

"How long do you think it will be until gaS prices come down...."

Don't know. I could guess a lot sooner than if Bush had started a war with Iran. Then again, he still has some time, right?

I wonder what our grandkids will say in 50 years?

Posted by Mato at 2008-04-22 11:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

They'll say shit like "Daddy, what was it like when we weren't owned outright the Chinese"?

"What was it like when there was a middle class"?

I don't like everything that Bush has done either, but he is not responsible for the high price of oil. That's simply a function of high international demand.

I don't think there's very much in the short term that either Bush or Congress can do about it. (and neither can either of the two jackasses running for the democratic party nomination) What they will do if they start meddling with the market, is have us all standing in gas lines.

Posted by nmg_no at 2008-04-22 11:57 PM | Reply | Flag

The price has jumped 600% from when he took office. Are you saying that demand has too?

BenFranklin,

Well, to reconstruct the litany of why we should be fighting in Iraq...

1. Start a democratic government in the most respected culture in the middle east as a example for how Muslims can live like humans. All other mustlim cultures will notice and eventually either imitate or lose their intelligencia and educated, who will go to Iraq rather than be repressed. Democracy is the natural antidote for hopelessness which leads to people seeing terrorism as the best job available.

2. Provide a base from which to conveniently oppose Iranian ambition. They can't invade Iraq or anywhere in the area if we have a convenient presence there. It has worked in Korea, Germany, and Japan quite well.

3. Ensure a friendly source of affordable oil until we can figure out a bettter way.

4. Nice killing field for Islamofascists and a way to demonstrate concretely that their efforts to destroy our culture are fruitless.

5. Removal of an evil man who was oppressing Shiites. This, in the long run, helps us with the Shi'ite community, even if some of them are a little hacked off now.



There probably are more reasons, but I'm tired of repeating this or something like it.

Jon's five reasons for the Iraq atrocity ring kinda hollow, especially bringing democracy to the people and removing an ugly ruler. Those are just not OUR duty in countries that lack oil. Iranian ambition and "Islamofascist efforts to destroy our culture" are Jon's imagination.

That leaves "3. Ensure a friendly source of affordable oil until we can figure out a bettter way," which is immoral is at least is honest.

It leaves out the obscene profits for Halliburton as well as Big Oil, the understandably tiny Bush ego and keeping Repubs in office. herm

"All other mustlim cultures will notice and eventually either imitate or lose their intelligencia and educated, who will go to Iraq rather than be repressed."

Huh????

"Provide a base from which to conveniently oppose Iranian ambition."
Who has Iran ever attacked??? Their war was a defensive war against Iraq.

"Ensure a friendly source of affordable oil until we can figure out a bettter way."
Hasn't worked out that way has it????
Cuz some folks don't like occupiers and theives.

"Nice killing field for Islamofascists and a way to demonstrate concretely that their efforts to destroy our culture are fruitless."
Baloney...we already had Afghanistan and Al Quaeda and the rest were happy to attack us there. Point is they will attack us wherever we are. Destroying Iraq to get at Sunni terrorists....very bad idea....virtually murder.

"Removal of an evil man who was oppressing Shiites."
Oh, so now we are going to go around removing all the "evil men."

Jon, how about a list of reasons not to invade Iraq....if you need help consult Daddy Bush's autobiography.

Thanks Jon,

That was suprisingly honest. Most republicans I know say (I won't mention the WMD reason) it was to free the Iraqi people then they don't want to talk about it anymore.

I agree with your 3rd one. It was nation building for the purpose of stealing oil. And they made a fortune doing it. Pretty smart, but they had to sell their soul and American interests to get it.

"I still think we can reverse it by exploiting all sources within our borders and mandate that it be sold domestically. But I have yet to hear anyone suggest anything like that."

The rest of us are concentrating on the avoidance of belligerent, testosterone-crazed cretins with families in the oil biz when it comes to electing Presidents.

There are many reasons to hate the Bush Admin. but oil prices are not one of them. It called supply and demand. China and India have turned into huge consumers and thus the prices have jumped. You can also in part blame some of the Dem's and environmentalists because of preventing the drilling for oil in Alaska and also from preventing the building of additional refineries.

You must be uninformed, and listen to nothing but the rightie media talking points.

The demand for oil has not gone up, it increases about 2% a year for the last 10 years, but don't let them facts slap you, you seemed to ignore any type of facts.

"There are many reasons to hate the Bush Admin. but oil prices are not one of them. It called supply and demand. China and India have turned into huge consumers and thus the prices have jumped. You can also in part blame some of the Dem's and environmentalists because of preventing the drilling for oil in Alaska and also from preventing the building of additional refineries.

Posted by ChiTownGuy at 2008-04-23 06:37 PM"

Not at all true ChiTownGuy. It's actually 'good old economics', according to those "Dem's and enironmentalists" at the Cato Institute:

www.cato.org

An excerpt:" We'd love to blame big government and enviro-whackos for today's high gasoline prices (we do, after all, work for the Cato Institute). But telling fairy tales about the market does no one any favors. Prices are high because of global supply-and-demand factors, and Congress can do little about it."

That was back in 2005 when gas was an "outrageous $2.22/gallon" *sigh*.

Also, as others have alluded to, the price is affected by the value of the US dollar and the supply. BOTH of these are directly affected by our Iraq War policies. While it's true that demand has increased (e.g., China, India, USA, etc.), that does not even begin to adequately account for the price increase of crude oil.

As for the Alaskan ANWAR canard, I'll leave that for you to Google and discover how much (and for how long!) that would impact the supply/pricing for the USA. Short/sweet: not much/not long.

"There are many reasons to hate the Bush Admin. but oil prices are not one of them."

Sorry, but that is simply not true. When Clinton left office with a fairly well balanced budget gas prices were fairly stable. When Bush came in and stupidly invaded Iraq at a cost now estimated to hit three trillion and at the same time (and for the first time in history) got the Republican controlled Congress to create tax cuts during a war he simply started inflating the dollar. It is still inflating and will as long as we spend more than we take in revenue. That is something that George Bush is definitely responsible for. You might consider that his father probably lost the election to Clinton because of the tax increase he saw was necessary and which he favored. That was because, though I didn't like or vote for him, he was not an irresponsible, uninformed failure which, as we know, the present Mr. Bush is.

In addition to what trueblue said and what I said earlier:

Several times Bush has vetoed bills to stop subsidies to oil companies who are making record profits..

an irresponsible, uninformed failure which, as we know, the present Mr. Bush is.

Posted by danni at 2008-04-23 08:16 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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Don't forget, he's also the "decider"
said it himself....

www.cbsnews.com

Check out the "decider"


Part of the reason this dumbass is is shining like a diamond in a goat's ass to the whole world.

1) "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream."

2) "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family."

3)"I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft."

4)"Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?"

5)Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

6)"There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."

7)"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 28, 2008

"Families is where "

burp

i179.photobucket.com

Losers die.

Hey, dumbass DANNI.

Can you show me 1 time in the history of the USA where the government raised taxes on the wealthy, and the government took in more money?

When was the last time you got a job from a poor person?

Did you watch the debate with Obama? Gibson asked Obama about that precise topic. And Gibson is a deomcrat. Gibson told Obama raising capital gains = less money for the government, and cutting them MAKES more money.

And what does Obama say? he contradicted himself back to back! He agreed with Gibson, then says he will raise taxed to pay for X programs.

How the hell do you raise taxes to pay for anything new? you raise taxed, YOU LOSE MONEY.

LOL

Obama didn't just stick his foot in his mouth, he shoved both his feet, and half the democratic parties foot in his mouth.

Raising taxes = less money the government gets.

Like me or hate me, thats a fact.

Kuma

"Can you show me 1 time in the history of the USA where the government raised taxes on the wealthy, and the government took in more money?"

Sure. The Clinton tax codes.

" Gibson told Obama raising capital gains = less money for the government, and cutting them MAKES more money."

Well, Gibson would flunk Econ 101, since before they send you home for fall break, you have to know how to compare two different years by factoring in inflation.

"Raising taxes = less money the government gets. Like me or hate me, thats a fact."

No, that's not a fact. In fact, it's wrong.

You said Clinton? Did you say Clinton?

What specifically are you talking about before you shove both feet in your mouth.

And just naming a name doesn't prove shit, site the source, and then watch me crush you because your an uneducated dumbfuck.

Kuma

"And just naming a name doesn't prove shit, site[sic] the source, and then watch me crush you because your[sic] an uneducated dumbfuck.

Kuma"

No comment necessary.

and then watch me crush you because your an uneducated dumbfuck.

This ought to be hilarious!

NULLandVOID thanks for proof reading posts on the DR for all of us. You are a very valuable asset to us all. Congrats and thanks. Keep it up too.

sic

"NULLandVOID thanks for proof reading posts on the DR for all of us. You are a very valuable asset to us all. Congrats and thanks. Keep it up too.

Posted by ride_on"

You don't speak for anybody but yourself, and the fact of that matter is that most Drudgies think you're a cowardly little twat.

"NULLandVOID thanks for proof reading posts on the DR for all of us. You are a very valuable asset to us all. Congrats and thanks. Keep it up too.

Posted by ride_on"


Speak for yourself. I don't consider Nullidiot to be any asset to me whatsoever.

Still don't want to address why you demanded my home address incessantly.....just because you were on the losing end of a discussion? Hmmmm?

So why does someone on the DR demand the home address of another DR poster..........why is that NULLandVOID?

Also, Nullidiot is probably a beaner.

Sincerely,
CalifChris

"And just naming a name doesn't prove shit, site the source..."

Here are mine:
www.irs.gov

www.truthandpolitics.org

"...and then watch me crush you because your an uneducated dumbfuck."

First, ya gotta love the self-retorting retort. It's "you're".

Next, in 1993 the first of the Clinton Tax Codes raised the top marginal rate from 31% to 39.5%. That increased government revenue.

The largest tax revenues ever collected are for FY 2000, the last year of the Clinton Tax Codes. Try this: take that number, and any other revenue number since. Add inflation to the other year's number, and then compare the two. Which one is larger?

I'll give you a hint: FY 2000. The tax cuts have produced less revenue, not more.

Your turn, Einstein. Crush me like the uneducated dumbfuck I am. Oh, and just like you requested, source your answers, please.

(btw, Yav, you're right...this ought to be a hoot!)

"NULLandVOID thanks for proof reading posts on the DR for all of us. You are a very valuable asset to us all. Congrats and thanks. Keep it up too.

"asset" = no
"ass" = yes

You don't speak for anybody but yourself, and the fact of that matter is that most Drudgies think you're a cowardly little twat.

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-04-23 11:44 PM | Reply


That's putting it mildly, null. The guy never offers up anything of substance. Ever. No debate, just petty insults and stalking.

This is what we all know ( the sane people ) anyway, and Heritage knows the same thing.

www.heritage.org

We are all doomed, cradle to grave government programs will crush us all, and there is nothing we can do about it.

Notice the article specifically states, that the Bush tax cuts will "lessen" the burden in the future if they are made permanent, and its much worse without them.

I love how this model is just ultra contrary to Democratic beliefs. Look at the costs of your democrat programs in the future. Look at it!

Of course thats a projection from some smart people, but anything can happen.

Kuma

Also, RideOn loves little boys. That's a FACT. He admitted to it a few months ago.

You don't speak for anybody but yourself, and the fact of that matter is that most Drudgies think you're a cowardly little twat.

LOL. You do realize what you just said, don't you, null? Put another way,

"You don't speak for anyone but yourself, but I speak for the DR". Kinda lofty, DYT?

For the record, you don't speak for me.

LOL, I get your point CC. Even though it was sarcasm....it is obvious that Nullidiot (aka NULLandVOID, aka Billy'O'Crap'O' et al) is worthless on the DR and in every aspect of his "life".

But I give ride_on credit: He knows his station.

Kuma thinks he's a genius and it's sad.

Goatman- Null speaks for me.

NULLandVOID, it is a fact you incessantly demanded my home address.....I see you don't care to answer why a poster on the DR would do that. You're a fraud.

Goatman, ref your point from 11:49 post....NULLandVOID will NOT be able to understand....which is not a surprise to people on the DR.

I see you don't care to answer why a poster on the DR would do that.

Duh. You called him a child molester so many times you were banned. PLus you stalk the motherfucker on every thread. I'd want to kick your fucking head in for that too, asshole.

ROFLMAO, ALEXIS shows up right on cue, letting everyone know NULLandVOID speaks for ALEXIS. Way too funny.

Goatman- Null speaks for me.

I trust no one to speak for me.

"Notice the article specifically states, that the Bush tax cuts will "lessen" the burden in the future if they are made permanent, and its much worse without them."

Because it's the Heritage Foundation, one of the staunchest Republican groups there is. Their homepage speaks of "Abstinence Progams Under Attack", and "What Would Reagan Do"? Further on they decry any regulation regarding the sub-prime mess (even suggesting the few regulations there are "may have made them worse". What do you expect for a group dedicated to the owners, at the expense of everyone else?

Ultimately, Heritage wants to cut taxes, not pay for anything, and decimate the government. Oh, and leave you with the bill.

""You don't speak for anyone but yourself, but I speak for the DR". Kinda lofty, DYT?

For the record, you don't speak for me.

Posted by goatman "

I said "most," not "all."

No I didn't Alexis. I stated the things he posted on the DR one night. That girls that have menstruated are fair game for sex as far as he is concerned. Funny that other DR posters remembered the same postings by him. Of course, that was under his old O'Crap'O' name that he got rid of.....hmmmm, I wonder what he was distancing himself from. If you agree with what he posted, just say so....I DON'T....so he doesn't get a pass.

LOL, grrrrrrrrrrrrr, I'm so scared now....NULLandVOID want to kick my "fucking head in". What a laugh. You want to demand my home address too? ROFLMAO. I'm shaking ALEXIS. Way too funny. It's easy to spot true pussies....those would be NULLandVOID and ALEXIS.

The 28% figure is kind of misleading, at least to the casual reader, when about 65% of Republicans consistently approve of Bush.

Him murdering American soldiers on an ongoing and forever basis doesn't seem to discourage them... I wonder what it would take for Republicans to change their minds ?

Goatman- He speaks for me in this particular instance. Ride IS a cowardly little jerk.

Ride-on-That girls that have menstruated are fair game for sex as far as he is concerned.

I recall the conversation being about sexual practices in other cultures. If you'd like to link to it while accusing him of being a pedophile, then please do so.

If not...shut the fuck up.

And how do you know he wasn't joking, ride_on? I've said worse than that in total jest.

PS- No, I do not want the address on your shack.

I wonder what it would take for Republicans to change their minds ?


Posted by YoMeLIB at 2008-04-24 12:00 AM


As soon as there is a dem President, they will be screaming to get out of Iraq.

Actually I think the leftist movement is more unpopular since they lost to him in 2004.

You have to be really dumb to lose to a man who wanted to build a moon base.

Why don't leftist get it?

Ride On, help is coming dude.

Soon, things will be different.

I am about to take control again.

HE dropped his handle that he did those posting under.......so you go find the link. Why has he distanced himself from the O'Crap'O' handle....so we can't link to it now......

And other DR posters remembered his sick conversation and HIS opinions (it wasn't other cultures) quite well. So fuck off Alexis. Also, I see you have no comment about NULLandVOID demanding my home address......unless your comment was that you wanted to "kick my fucking head in" is your answer. Have fun with that you idiot. ROFLMAO.

"Actually I think the leftist movement is more unpopular since they lost to him in 2004. "

Um...yeah..........have any proof of that?

'Cause the other side will point to the fact the Dems won the House, the Senate, and every governorship up for grabs in 2006.

That's after 2004, for the numbers-challenged.

LOL, I don't need any help DAWG.

...and Alexis, funny that other DR posters remembered his sick postings the same as I had. So is it birds of a feather that stick together and you and NULLandVOID are tight, lol.

I think leftist hold onto a couple extreme ideas that really hurt them, main one is homosexual marriage.

I it is as bad as asking me to support man who takes an 8 year old for a wife, and then force me to give them benefits.

Your need for help is immaterial...just ancillary.

I've decided to take control of this blog again.

That is all that matters.

Whatever you feel the need for DAWG.

RIDEON

"Jomama" won't even admit to new name and he was probably someone else on here before he was "Jomama."
Now Jomama hides behind his new alias of "DumbasRocks" to zip in on a thread, make some snide remark, and then go back to being Jomama again. Can't stand it when people don't have the guts to stick to their same username. All they want to do is to be able to create a cowardly unfair advantage against some other poster who doesn't know who they really are.

"...and Alexis, funny that other DR posters remembered his sick postings the same as I had"

RideOn is an excellent student of Goebbels.

I think leftist hold onto a couple extreme ideas that really hurt them, main one is homosexual marriage.

It is as bad as asking me to support man who takes an 8 year old for a wife, and then force my business to give them benefits.

I can't believe what I want to believe, because I live in the US. Freedom of Beliefs, what a crock of #%$%%$^

Danforth
The constitution doesn't work!!!

"I've decided to take control of this blog again."

Why, Rex? I thought you already had your own blog. You know, the PWZ? That bastion of free speech locked down tighter than a nun's chastity belt?

Funny, isn't it, how you and the trolls stormed out, vowing to take down RCade and the DR, and now, are all creeping back in (emphasis on the creep).

Hahahahaahaa

"it is as bad as asking me to support man who takes an 8 year old for a wife"

*sigh*

Another idiot who doesn't understand the concept of consent.

I can do whatever I want Dan.

Including taking your book away from you.

UCLA players upon making it to the Final
Four discover the sicko NULLandVOID is a fan. They are so ashamed they refuse to win and throw the game. FACT.

Danforth your an idiot

"Including taking your book away from you."

My book?

"Cause I am better then you Dan."

What if you were forced to give benefits to a man who took an 8 year old for a wife, both consented to get married.
I bet you would have no problem then, right.

I always have been and I always will be.

Why are you picking such a lowly measuring stick DAWG? Better than Dan....roflmao....so what! Might as well just say you are better than NULLandVOID.

"Danforth your an idiot"

Ya gotta love the self-retorting retort. Especially when the retard does it again and again.

Hey Rick, do you understand the difference between homosexuality and pedophillia? Do you know what consent means? Do you understand a child, by definition, cannot give consent?

Why should I have to support something and fork out money for something I don't believe in.

Danforth.

""Cause I am better then you Dan. I always have been and I always will be."

At what? Shitting up a blog? You're right, you've got me there.

"Why should I have to support something and fork out money for something I don't believe in. "

For the same reason I pay my taxes to pay interest on the debt being rung up in Iraq.

What if the law changed to say an 8 year old is old enough to make a decision.

You have to be really dumb to lose to a man who wanted to build a moon base.

How many times did you vote for that man, rick?

"Better than Dan....roflmao....so what!"

Tamp-On, have you ever engaged in a debate?

Ever?

Or is the extent of your brainpower the cutsie little (TM)s you put after every stale name-joke?

once

Ride on, you never made the mustard, I understand your angst.

But the rest of the flotsam undersands, the end is near.

Free range is over.

Hey, it's rex smurfgeist! Still usin those kneepads when jackass is around?

"What if the law changed to say an 8 year old is old enough to make a decision."

Stop dreaming. You can't bang that girl across the row from you in geography class. Even if this is your third time repeating this grade.

Once was enough, I don't care for Bush.
I don't think he follows anything Jesus taught, maybe a couple things but not much.

Alex, why would you bring pain down on yourself?

We made our peace, do you want to distrupt it?

I don't think he follows anything Jesus taught,

Yeah, and it truly bugs me that the little creep said Jesus was his favorite philosopher in the 2000 debate. That claim sounded false at the time, and obviously it was.

I really don't believe in this government, it can't guarentee freedom of religion.

Dawgpound- What peace? You sent me self destruct emails, and now you're going back to your old games, pretending to control a blog you do nothing but complain about.

Get lost.

Build your bunker Alex, it's gonna get ugly.

"it truly bugs me that the little creep said Jesus was his favorite philosopher in the 2000 debate."

That's because he didn't know the names of any other philosophers.

Get a life, rex. Seriously...get a fucking life and leave us alone.

That's because he didn't know the names of any other philosophers.

Posted by Danforth at 2008-04-24 12:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

ROFL!

You're small fry Alexa. You have nothing to worry about.

"You sent me self destruct emails, and now you're going back to your old games"

You too?

He did that to me, right after going on and on about how he changed, which, of course, was right after accusing me of lying, about an incident where Niceville posted Lisa's real name on the PWZ, I called him on it, and Rex backed Niceville. Rex knows it happened, actually apologized to me about it one night here on the DR, but now denies it ever occurred.

Yeah, he's changed all right.

btw...I saved the self-destruct. I should email it to you.

Go make another failed blog. At least you weren't smelling this place up.

Danforth- he sent me one that same night. Go ahead and email it to me, I could use a laugh.

I am the smell of this place Alexa. You know this.

Call me the Controller.

Time is short.

I am the smell of this place Alexa.

This is drudge.com, not bitterbrokenman.com

Hahaahaaah..soon I will be in total control of your experience.

Again.

Be happy.

Hey Rex...tell us the story of PWZ's first fantasy football season. Be sure to include all the people you fought with, accused of sabotage, or banned...if you can remember them all.

Then blog again drunkenly from the crapper, will you?

Dawgpoop is just lonely. He hides in his little dawghouse until he can think up a new handle and sneak back here, only to be unmasked.

It's pretty funny in a sad sort of way.

Then blog again drunkenly from the crapper

He's been sober here?

It's tough getting to the top of the heap boys......Certainly, that is no doubt....

Blue

I imagine it's difficult starting your journey from a septic tank, rex.

"He's been sober here?"

Probably not, but nothing like that classic night when he drunkenly blogged from the crapper, giving us on the DR a blow-by-blow (squirt-by-squirt?) description of All Things Rex.

Rex

Sun doesn't rise at all

Rex is the dawg that takes a whipping and keeps on licking.

Hahahaha

I see Rex/Dawgcrap was back. banned again?

Jezuz, Wrecks is back.

This'll be fun.

AMAZING... you guys think Bush made anyone money.. GIVE ME A BREAK !! If you will be a tiny bit rational, and LOOK at the numbers.. You will see, the comoditiy traders have driven up the price of fuel.. the weakening dollar contributed.. but, THERE IS NO AND HAS BEEN NO SHORTAGE OF OIL in WAY MORE than a decade...
I would add, the TREE HUGGER EPA multi-mix requirements, where the refinerys have to change the wa they product fuel for each season.. certainly ha caused additional costs tha could be avoided

bush should ignored 911 and he would be like clinton who gave radical islam a pass on their attacks on us -bill wins the popularity contest hands down-that says a lot about the lack of backbone of the american people
jasman

"...and he would be like clinton who gave radical islam a pass on their attacks on us..."

Let's see. There have been TWO attacks on the World Trade Center. Remind us again for which attack was the mastermind caught and punished?

SanAntonioRogue
where is the blind cleric now?-why didn't clinton accept ben laden when sudanese offer him up-why did clinton bomb an empty buildin-of course none of these actions gave radical islam the idea the us was a pack off sissies
jasman

"bush should ignored 911 (blah blah blah)

Posted by newjasman at 2008-04-24 10:42 AM"

Perhaps Bush should have concentrated our military on the perpetrators of 9/11 instead of invading a country that had nothing to do with it and was no threat to us.

Hey, Chimpy -- no worries! All the monkeys in the zoo are jumping up and down for you!

Yoo hoo!

(Btw, King Kong was a neocon.)

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