ledeen is right

they are islamic extremists

but at the same time

mccain is running a presidential campaign

and he has to be careful with what he says

10 million americans are muslims.
10 million americans are not marxists
and 10 million americans are not nationalist

mccain doesn't have to get the marxist and nationalist vote but he does have to get the muslim and the black vote

and offending talk no matter how true won't get him votes.

and honestly mccain has said many things that are much more offensive to muslims in the past... nanc you must love him.

Is the fact that they are all Muslim a fluke? No, it is causative in their radicalism.

McCain has it right.

And he still sucks.

Don't piss off McBush or else he will call you a c**t.

i don't want him to be careful about what he says - it's kind of refreshing to finally have someone with the nads and no fear of retribution calling a spade a spade.

while not all muslims are terrorists, most terrorists are muslim.

funny how only SOME truths are allowed and others have to be dolled up.

Sure, he says he'll continue to call them Islamic Terrorists, but that's today. Let's see if he continues to call them that in the future before giving the old man any kudos.

You know what Barrack Hussien calls them? Dad, Rev Farrakahn, buddy, and mentor.

nanc

what is a terrorist??

we have 3 million in jail in the usa

and 15000 murders in the usa.

are gang members terrorists

shit i'm move afraid of the cripts then i am of al qaeda

how bout that latino group m13 with tens of thousands of members IN THE USA

thats an immediate terrorist threat
within our borders, and moving into the suburbs quickly
they'll be at your doorstep before the muslim brotherhood, i guarantee you that

you label only muslim gangsters terrorists
what about all the others... i will tell you the cia and the fbi call all gangs terrorist networks

the mafia is considered a terrorist threat by homeland security

your definition is not the real definition

the yakuza, the triads, the wa-ching, the russian mob... the list goes on and on


american muslims are a voting block
bush had the nads too
but guess what
nads don't fix our problems
they get us in more trouble

and i said he's right, but sometimes eloquence goes a long way... mccain has none. he smiles his hateful grin every time he's jeered and you know he wants to hurt. eloquence suggests you understand the problem, know what is right, but aren't a hawk looking for the first kill.

You know what Barrack Hussien calls them? Dad, Rev Farrakahn, buddy, and mentor.

You forgot "grade-school teacher".

For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud of JeffJ and the USA.
Sincerely,
Michele "Dirka Dirka" Obama

actually chair

barack calls them muslim extremists

which is a more acurate term then islamic extremists.

and why barack is smarter then mccain
he knows the enemy.

mccain knows how to bomb

he should be a general, taking orders from the commander in chief

he's not smart enough to BE commander in chief

Michele "Dirka Dirka" Obama


After drilling Michelle 1 time in the sack, I learned a few things:

1. That was the 1st, 2nd and third ograsm she's had in over a decade.

2. That her hubby has been referring to McCain as "McCunt" for over a year with his insiders - some 'uniter - an agent of change'.

3. That those same insiders refer to Obama as "Barry the Fairy" when he is not in the room.

Michele "Dirka Dirka" Obama


After drilling Michelle 1 time in the sack, I learned a few things:

1. That was the 1st, 2nd and third ograsm she's had in over a decade.

2. That her hubby has been referring to McCain as "McCunt" for over a year with his insiders - some 'uniter - an agent of change'.

3. That those same insiders refer to Obama as "Barry the Fairy" when he is not in the room.

Sorry for the double.

while not all muslims are terrorists, most terrorists are muslim.


I am sure that you have statistics to back up that assertion.

How many of the terrorists in Ireland were Muslim?

How many Muslims blew up a federal building in Oklahoma? How many have bombed abortions centers in America?

mccain knows how to bomb


He also knows how to eject.... or is it pull out?

"I am sure that you have statistics to back up that assertion.

How many of the terrorists in Ireland were Muslim?

How many Muslims blew up a federal building in Oklahoma? How many have bombed abortions centers in America?"


Posted by 726

Sheer brilliance!

"They're just silly. What a silly thing to say. I talk of Marxist extremists and nationalist extremists. They just don't want people to say there are Islamic terrorists, which there are. Too bad."

Well fucking said...

I remember reading once, a long time ago, that some people advocated using "Islamist" to describe the fundamentalist extremists and "Islamic" to identify regular Muslims. Did this catch on? Would it be less offensive? Seems to be it'd be along the same vein as identifying some Christians as "fundamentalist Christians" and others as just "Christians," except with fewer words.

Klifferd, I'm curious -- what makes "Muslim extremists" more accurate than "Islamic extremists"?

Actually, when I think about it, isn't "Islamic" just generally wrong, anyway? Islam is the noun, the religion; Muslim is both the noun describing a follower and the adjective for all things pertaining to Islam. Am I way off on that?

Just call them dead.

While it's refreshing to hear a politician who doesn't pander I still think McCain is too Liberal...

mccain knows how to bomb


He's also got a killer wet start.

And JeffJ- a magazine cover photo and a handful of kleenex don't equal Michelle Obama, no matter how hard you close your eyes.

Statistically speaking:

Not all muslims are terrorists,
but (sadly) all terrorists are muslim.

If the muslims could get as pissed
off at muslims who have 'hijacked
the religion of Islam' as they have
about McCain's use of the term "Islamic
"terrorist", perhaps some real progress
could be made in the war on Islamic Facism.

It also shows the phoniness of many muslims's
outrage.

Russian school kids are shot in the back by
the hundreds, and 'muslims' are mum.
Rumors spread that a koran has been
flushed down a toilet at Gitmo, and
there is a world-wide muslim shit-fit.

Cartoon drawings piss off muslims much more
than the alledged 'hijacking' of a noble religion.

Clean your house Islamn!

This is really no surprise. But one might wonder why the "coalition of American Muslim groups" isn't as upset about the terrorists claiming every atrocity they commit is "Islamic".

"While it's refreshing to hear a politician who doesn't pander I still think McCain is too Liberal...

Posted by Spielmannsfluch"

I feel the same way!



"This is really no surprise. But one might wonder why the "coalition of American Muslim groups" isn't as upset about the terrorists claiming every atrocity they commit is "Islamic".

Posted by Sully"

Now there's a great question to ask Mr. Fareed but I think the answer would be along the lines of why a woman can call another woman a bitch or a c*nt whereas a man can't use either word without getting in trouble.

Soon we will not be allowed to say what color of cola we are drinking.

The more diverse the worse!

I don't care what Ncain calls the Muslim bastards.
If he is elected thogh I expect him to keep his promise of bombing Iran for starters.

Muslims?! FUCK!

"Klifferd, I'm curious -- what makes "Muslim extremists" more accurate than "Islamic extremists"?

Actually, when I think about it, isn't "Islamic" just generally wrong, anyway? Islam is the noun, the religion; Muslim is both the noun describing a follower and the adjective for all things pertaining to Islam. Am I way off on that?"


at the basic level they are the same thing. like i said before mccain is right, they are islamic extremists...

but to the muslim voters
the usage is huge

you can agree or disagree all you want... facts are facts. like it or not

to a muslim, "islamic extremist" implies that the problem lies with God's word.
to the muslim, "muslim extremist" implies that the problem lies with Man's misinterpretation of God's word.

so again
its a small thing that doesnt' matter to a non muslim, but mccain is running for president
roughly 10 million people in this country are muslim, and that number is growing. For the republican party, where most muslim loyalty used to reside thats a huge voting block loss.

Is the fact that they are all Muslim a fluke? No, it is causative in their radicalism.

McCain has it right.

And he still sucks.

Posted by tigerbalm

ah yes,.........a liberals' unique way of giving credit to a republican......good one,

mccain is running a presidential campaign

and he has to be careful with what he says

and that is what klifferd weighed in on the subject initially......and thats okay..
ah but lets look closer into liberal comments.
when obama demeans and insults millions of americans of faith and guns and secure borders, and we call him on it, its called diversions.....but here....well we sure dont want a candidate to offend any fuckin muslims......ooohhhhh noooooo
and obama can hang with american terrorists from teh 60's but mcain better not piss off muslims....ooohhhh noooooo
islamic muslim.....everyone knows who he is talking about when using either term and the muslim or islamic family who works and sends their children to school and appreciates this country and assimilates and contributes and DOESNT blow up people and BUILDINGS.....are NOT who he is talking about.

so in this case we could look to europe to help us as many libs call for in other issues.
it seems that many places over there are not only all agaga over treating islamic, muslim, whatever in such a delicate way as to not offend them or the like.....and recent stats show that if left unchanged, muslims/islamic people could be taking europe over from europeans. and they are doing it with the help of governments. it AT LEAST deserves some of our attention.

There NOT 10 million Muslims and they are not going to vote for McCain anyway. Muslims are always exaggerating their numbers, the power, and their strength. We ordinary people call it lying, but it okay, the Koran says so.

Don't confuse Alzhiemer's McBush, he can't keep striaght who our enemies are in Iraq, Sunni or Shia.
But he can bankrupt a S&L - Keading Five anyone??
And you idiots want him to run our country that is quickly circling the drain???
Oh well, just like Rob, neither know who the enemy is.

Fuck em...thier the enemy - Rob the Idiot boy whose wife is fucking every resident at the hospital!!!

Klifferd -
Thanks for the explanation about "Islamic" and "Muslim" extremists. It makes sense to me now.

Thanks for your insights Klifferd. I just hope people here who are uncertain about these issues heed your posts over all the blind and ignorant "call a spade a spade" shit.

The more you here these Muslim fucks complain about this country the more Earl Warren's idea in California makes sense.

Well, I see the PC police are alive and well. Now, it seems, we are not allowed to use a word that actually describes a group or person. They ARE Islamic and they are terrorists, thus Islamic terrorists.

These people should use the energy they are wasting on this issue and use it to create an uprising from the peaceful Islamic global community. Can you imagine what would happen if all of the Muslims in the world stood up , grabbed a weapon, and went after the people who are trashing their religion? This shit would be over in a week.

One more thing, McCain is doing what Bush should have been doing all along. Instead of calling this a war on terror, Bush should have been calling it a war on Islamic terrorists because that's what it is.

muslims are mean and blunt in their comments on other peoples----and very thinskined about comments made about them-----they truly believe there s--t don't stink
jasman

I suppose "RAGHEADS" is out of the question?

A name is a name but when trying to define a smaller group of extremists, its dangerous to use terms that cover a culture or religion as a whole. You end up with a public opinion or anger that is targeting the collective as opposed to the offshoot of a group.

Why do they call Michele Obama Gorilla Girl?

"They" would be you, and you do it because you're part of the target audience for Recovering Racists Anonymous.

Sorry, Poncho, I see your point but the people we are fighting are Islamic. Like I said, the Muslims who are upset by this should direct their energy into something more positive. Why should we change the language, and thus soften it, simply because it hurts their little feelings?

What are we supposed to call them anyway? He calls them Islamic extremists and that's exactly what they are. You know, the more I think about this the more I realize it's frickin' stupid. It's just more PC bullshit and McCain should not waver on his stance or choice of language.

In fact, who in the hell do these people think they are? They are telling someone what they can or can not say. Maybe they think they are in Saudi Arabia.

"huff an exhaust pipe, lick some paint,...

Posted by Redneckville at 2008-04-23 01:33 PM"

You got Goatman all confused. He's out in the yard huffing paint and licking the neighbor's pipe.

McCain has been to Iraq 10 times but doesnt know the difference between Sunni and Shiaa.

Why should we expect him to know the difference between Islam and Muslim?

He's still quoting "wipe Israel off the map"

And fighting Islamofascism, or is it "agents of intolerance"

Most people here don't understand the significance of terminology that might cast innocents in a bad light, it seems. Progress cannot be made until people truly understand how to deal properly with one another. People are letting anger cloud their thoughts and misdirecting it, and it sucks and I don't see anything getting better as long as they continue proclaiming their bullshit ignorant views.

At least they're not bottling up their feelings, which is a start in the right direction.

Just asking a question shit head.

A country at war should do it's best to dehumanize and paint the enemy in broad a spectrum. We've done it before with the Krauts and Nips and Gooks just like every other country in the history of the world. It's called self-preservation. That's back when Hollywood was producing movies that make the US look like the good guy.

Anyway, I like the term "Raghead". It fits.

Scrumplet,

The respect for other people goes both ways. Maybe the Islamic terrorists don't like being called Islamic terrorists - I understand that. But I don't like people who suicide bomb children with nails. There is no morale equivalence when it comes to 12th century terror tactics.

The responsibility also goes both ways - most people will stop calling Islamic terrorists, Islamic terrorists when they stop being Islamic terrorists.