Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Wednesday, April 16, 2008

In his book The Real McCain, author Cliff Schecter claims that John McCain made extremely ugly remarks about his wife Cindy McCain during a tirade witnessed by three reporters and two aides. "At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, 'You're getting a little thin up there,'" Schechter writes. "McCain's face reddened, and he responded, 'At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt.' McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days."

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A new book by Cliff Schechter has the inside scoop on John McCain. And if you want to know why John McCain was called "McNasty" in high school, read this.

At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there." McCain's face reddened, and he responded, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt." McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.

This event was witnessed by 3 reporters and two aides of John McCain, Doug Cole and Wes Gullett.

He's nutty from all those years of confinement and torture. At least that's what Bush's minions said in 2000.

John certainly one upped Bubba. He left the makeup part out.

At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there." McCain's face reddened, and he responded, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt." McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.

A trollop and a cunt? Oh my.

Oh my. Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Now you know why momma told you to stay away from sailors.

"At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt."


Wow, McNasty's a real silver-tongued little devil. Did Cindy smack
him hard upside the back of his bald head for that remark? Hope so.

"A Trollop and a CUNT"

What? No usual 2-inch headline on at the top of the DR Front Page
when the "c" word is involved in the title?

Oz,

"What should you do with a drunken sailor, what should you do with a drunken sailor so early in the morning?" Don't apply makeup apparently.

At least he's not an elitist. Only white, rural, gun-toting, bible thumping, blue-collar xenophobes talk like that.

-Corky

Now ya see this shows me exactly why this man should not be POTUS, cause he married a barbie doll, if he had said that to me the next time he slept I would have taken a baseball bat to his person and he would have been out in front of reporters the next day covered in bruises saying "of course when I said that I was totally out of line and I would never even think that about my beloved wife" can you imagine George Bush saying such a thing to Barbara? In fact can you imagine Slick Willie saying that to the Hilderbeast?

Someone with such a short temper has no business with his finger on "the button"

"What? No usual 2-inch headline on at the top of the DR Front Page
when the "c" word is involved in the title?"

When has that ever happened?

"can you imagine George Bush saying such a thing to Barbara? In fact can you imagine Slick Willie saying that to the Hilderbeast?"

Can you imagine the reaction if Obama had said that?

When has that ever happened?

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-04-15 08:38 PM


Not all that long ago -- just a couple months or so. I don't even remember the exact story it pertained to but I KNOW others on here will remember the infamous DR headline. Somebody else can help me recall it.

Huffington Post reporter Sam Stein notes that the book's new reports on McCains fiery temper are well supported by other accounts of his losing his cool.

Anecdotes like these would stand out as highly abnormal if it weren't for McCain's history of similarly explosive behavior. As Washingtonian magazine documented (and Schecter notes in the book), McCain once "scuffled" with the Senate's then oldest member, Strom Thurmond, during a Senate Armed Service Committee hearing in January 1995. Three years later, the Associated Press article reported that McCain dropped F-Bombs on at least three fellow Republicans.

"I'm calling you a f------ jerk!" he once retorted to Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley.

And in a opinion piece last year on Salon.com, Sidney Blumenthal, now an adviser to Sen. Hillary Clinton, wrote that McCain once told Sen. Ted Kennedy to "shut up" on the Senate Floor, referred to a fellow Republican as a "shit head" and offered a downright vicious and doubly-offensive joke in 1998 Republican fundraiser about then first daughter Chelsea Clinton.

"Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly?" he asked. "Because Janet Reno is her father."

Can you imagine the reaction if Obama had said that?

Posted by nullifidian

Michelle would still hate America?

CC, wasn't it about Jane Fonda's screwup?

New 527 Calls Hillary a 'Cunt' | Drudge Retort

www.drudge.com

Larry Mohr

"What should you do with a drunken sailor...


I don't think he was drunk. He was in front of three reporters and she just had to embarrass him by pointing out that his hair was thinning. She was playing for a laugh at his expense in an effort to show how witty she could be - former debutante, drunk, druggee, and daddy's little girl.

Sure she's a Barbie and probably pretty good between the sheets. She's not some naive little girl, and like I'm saying has her earthy side as well.

The word cunt has different meanings for men and women. If you gals would quit using it as an excuse to ball-bat a man in his sleep - a decidedly cowardly act - maybe we could work out a deal. Like you could quit calling us bastards, or acting like we're gay just because we don't want to fuck you, or playing for a laugh at our expense when we wouldn't do that to you.

Deal or No Deal?

New 527 Calls Hillary a 'Cunt' | Drudge Retort

www.drudge.com

Larry Mohr


I'm John McCain, and I approve of this group.

McCain dropped F-Bombs on at least three fellow Republicans.


They shouldn't complain. He dropped real bombs on the Vietnamese.

Nullifidian

Larry remembered the headline and supplied you the link. Thanks, Larry!

Here's one of the posts from that thread and by "bold" 2112 was referring to the one inch high bold "C" word put up in a banner headline the top of the Front Page.


Cunt, Cunt,Cunt, Cunt,Cunt, Cunt,Cunt, Cunt,Cunt, Cunt,Cunt, Cunt,Cunt, Cunt,Cunt, Cunt,Cunt, Cunt,Cunt, Cunt,Cunt, Cunt,Cunt, Cunt,Cunt,...

With it being on the front page in BOLD CAPS I am assuming I can get away with this. We shall see.

Posted by _2112_ at 2008-01-24 05:58 PM

Wisgod -

CC, wasn't it about Jane Fonda's screwup?

Yep. I knew a lot of you would remember that headline. (grin)

Truth Be told I just googled Drudge Retort Cunt and that was the Second one that popped up. This thread popped up first.

Larry

Truth Be told I just googled Drudge Retort Cunt and that was the Second one that popped up. This thread popped up first.

Larry

Did Monte get third?

He was in front of three reporters and she just had to embarrass him by pointing out that his hair was thinning. She was playing for a laugh at his expense in an effort to show how witty she could be - former debutante, drunk, druggee, and daddy's little girl.

I agree should never have said that in public and especially in front of reporters.

The word cunt has different meanings for men and women. If you gals would quit using it as an excuse to ball-bat a man in his sleep - a decidedly cowardly act - maybe we could work out a deal. Like you could quit calling us bastards, or acting like we're gay just because we don't want to fuck you, or playing for a laugh at our expense when we wouldn't do that to you.

Deal or No Deal?


I agree it's not a good policy to belittle and embarrass your partner in front of other people. Not really a good idea to do it in private either. And, yes, both sides are at fault for fueling the war between the sexes, so I vote, deal.

"Can you imagine the reaction if Obama had said that?"

Fox would be running the tape 24/7 with accompanying reporting and Michelle would have beaten the treacle out of Barack.

OZ - I have been called alot of things in my time (lawd I was in the Navy, what HAVEN'T I been called?) but I would seriously take offense to my HUSBAND calling me a trollop and a cunt. If a complete stranger calls me a cunt, or even if someone who knows me calls me a cunt, I would shrug it off and say "oh well". Now if my husband does it in front of reporters, you can bet your ever loving life that once he was sleeping I would beat the ever loving treacle out of him, and guess what? He would never do it again. PS) He would also never have sex again in his life unless he apologized. (Hookers nothwithstanding)

yeah... linking having the thread link to dailykos doesn't help the case here...

This event was witnessed by 3 reporters and two aides of John McCain, Doug Cole and Wes Gullett.

Posted by nullifidian


And they've confirmed this story?

Fox would be running the tape 24/7

There's of McCain saying this to his wife? Is there a link to it?

Well said, LitBrit. Although I can think of private circumstances in which a husband calling his wife a trollop and a cunt would be acceptable, I can't think of many public instances where it would be--except maybe on Halloween and the Missus went to a costume party dressed as the Wife of Bath. ;-)

Someone calls my wife a C-word in public, they will never see closing time. And if I called her that, either would I. Terrible word, all kidding aside.

"yeah... linking having the thread link to dailykos doesn't help the case here..."

It's from a forthcoming book, Rob. Doesn't matter which website I linked to.

rawstory.com

Great! The last thing this country needs is a dictator with a temper.

"And they've confirmed this story?"

Confirmed? Well, you can believe it or not. The author said 3 reporters and 2 McCain aides were present.

It's far more "confirmed" than the story that Rev. Wright was preaching hate every Sunday for 20 years.

Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain's intemperateness.

Okay, I literally laughed out loud at this...

3 REPORTERS, not only never reported on this story of a Senator calling his wife a cunt, but also told about the story but asked to remain anonymous...

uh huh... right. Senator calls his wife a cunt and a trollup, but they sit on it for 16 years only to report it anonymously so someone else can get credit for breaking the story... That sounds perfectly logical.

Goddamn piece of paper!

It's far more "confirmed" than the story that Rev. Wright was preaching hate every Sunday for 20 years.


Posted by nullifidian


I have video proof of what Wright was doing...

You have a ridiculously unbelievable story relying on reporters not reporting such an amazing event...

"That sounds perfectly logical."

Yes, it does, for reporters who want to keep their jobs on the McCain beat.

Wife of Bath

How about The Taming of the Shrew?

"Kiss me Kate..."

"I have video proof of what Wright was doing... "

No, you don't. The Right keeps claiming that Wright was doing this every Sunday for 20 years but can only produce 2 video clips.

Yes, it does, for reporters who want to keep their jobs on the McCain beat.

Posted by nullifidian


Right... because for such an exclusive and truly amazing story they wouldn't be rewarded by the newspaper or tv channel they worked for...

Good thing for McCain he said this in front of three reporters with absolutely no ambition.

"You have a ridiculously unbelievable story relying on reporters not reporting such an amazing event..."


You're really naive. Do you have any clue as to how many stories like this reporters have witnessed and kept silent about? Did you ever hear about JFK's womanizing until years after his death?

The Right keeps claiming that Wright was doing this every Sunday for 20 years but can only produce 2 video clips.

Posted by nullifidian


Which were well accepted by the congregation to say the least. Not shocked audiences... roaring applause.

You're right though, I'm sure it was just these two times... Wright must have had a long day when he accidentally said White people made the AIDS virus to kill Blacks with.

Did you ever hear about JFK's womanizing until years after his death?

Posted by nullifidian


Different time, different press...

A United States Senator calling his wife a Cunt would have been reported on in the 90s... unless of course you happened to be around the only 3 reporters who just didn't like breaking news.

Lucky break for McCain.

You can whine all you want, Rob. The more time you spend defending John "100 Year War" McTrollop the better. Keeps you out of mischief. :)

You can whine all you want, Rob.

Who is whining? The story just sounds a little silly to me...

Like that SOB Bush/Rove wouldn't have uncovered this in 2004.

I'm sure the holier than thou religious right will love this story. I bet they turn out in droves to vote for McTrollop. lol.

You know what though... going bald is a serious issue for men...

For her to comment on it in front of aides and reporters... yeah that's a little cuntish.

I'm sure the holier than thou religious right will love this story

Sounds about as credible as Obama's gay BJ and crack night...


I'm sure the holier than thou religious right will love this story. I bet they turn out in droves to vote for McTrollop. lol.

Posted by nullifidian

Yeah, these last 28 email alerts about this story from CNN are really pissing me off.

I'm sure the holier than thou religious right will love this story. I bet they turn out in droves to vote for McTrollop. lol.

If word of this gets out, John Trollop McCain won't be getting too many of the soccer moms' votes.

"Yeah, these last 28 email alerts about this story from CNN are really pissing me off."

Patience my friend, patience. The book won't be in bookstores until next month.

They shouldn't complain. He dropped real bombs on the Vietnamese.

Not to mention an airplane.

Patience my friend, patience. The book won't be in bookstores until next month.

Posted by nullifidian

Should be a good month. I hear Tony Rezco has a book comimg out too. "Bonzo buys Property".

Like that SOB Bush/Rove wouldn't have uncovered this in 2004.

Not that I don't like the sentiment expressed, but McCain wasn't running for President in 2004.

Not that I don't like the sentiment expressed, but McCain wasn't running for President in 2004.

Posted by YAV


Point still out there, that in 2000, Rove would have brought this story if it really happened to the public.

Or are you saying that would cross a line for Karl "Did you hear about his Negro baby" Rove?

"Point still out there, that in 2000, Rove would have brought this story if it really happened to the public."

Maybe he wasn't aware of it then. Most people still haven't heard this. You know, sometimes things don't come out until years after the fact. Duh.

Point still out there, that in 2000, Rove would have brought this story if it really happened to the public.

Actually I had to find out when this happened before I said any more.

McCain and his wife that happened in full view of aides and reporters during a 1992 campaign stop.

A dollop for the trollop

Dollop of Daisy

Can you imagine the reaction if Obama had said that?

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-04-15 08:39 PM | Reply | Flag:


He'd be over.

How can you put any credence in a story that is unsourced, anonymous and wasn't reported at the time it occurred--no where ??

And don't you think that Bush or a 527 would have used this in 2000?

It's because it's BS.


Murphy

"It's because it's BS."

Maybe. Maybe not. There's abundant evidence, from Arizona Republicans, that McCain has a real problem with his temper.

Don't be surprised to see more stories like this. Sorry.

"Shut yer gob ya stinkin' gash!"

Anyone who would take it up the butt like McCain did in 2000, then kisses Bush ass for 8 years doesn't deserve anything but ridicule.


I have absolutley no difficulty believing the years in captivity and age have eroded his mental capacity and judgement. He will make a great puppet President.

If this is the best shit you dems have to attack McCain with your toast before the confetti hits the floor at your convention.

Bee Swell

Crackpipejunkie

I actually hope McCain wins, and the republicans take back the house and senate. That way when the economy collapses and the army is humiliated in Iraq--it won't be the dems fault, and maybe we can get a decent country. Its the theory you have to get to rock bottom before you recover. I think I'll vote for McCain myself. I'm old enough I won't be around to see the consequences. How about you? Got soup?

;-)

I don't think it matters who wins, nothing is going to until 2012. We aren't leaving Iraq for a while.

"McCain Calls Wife A Cunt and a Trollop"

YEAH!

What's it to you all, what a man does with his property!

Sincerely

The "christian right"


***** McCain Calls Wife A Cunt and a Trollop *****

.......he should know........

I'm with Rob on the skepticism.
I think the three reporters would have beaten each other bloody to be the first to break the headline on nasty ole Mac!

I'm glad he told that fat fucking drunk Kennedy to shut up. I'm equally pleased he called somebody a fucking jerk. So he scuffled with Strom?

Sounds like a guy with some passion and conviction.

Not only is Barry Hussien too much of a pussy to push or insult a fellow politician, but he won't even walk out on the weekly hate preaching at his "church".

Vote McCain, or he'll fuck you up and call your wife a cunt. (That's a little wory for a bumper sticker isn't it?)

The media siezing on McCain's temper as a negative will backfire big-time if Hillary manages to win the Dem primary - her temper is absolutely legendary.

JJ,

hillary win the primary......LOL! Not a chance in hell!

I do agree with you about john baghdad bob mccain though. Just look at bush and his temper and one can clearly see the twist of the media would do to those negative towards him.

I agree that the sources are worse than suspect, but to be honest, Arizona worships McCain so the possibility of Arizona reporters sitting on this isn't all that crazy. I lived there from 89-98 and they do love their pols. Witness Even Mecham (former Arizona Gov) and his Alabama porch monkey remarks.

Even a stopped watch is right twice a day.

I decided to post this on the front page because it's already been reported by the New York Daily News and is percolating around the blogs.

If it's true, you gotta wonder how angry this guy is capable of getting. Everybody loses their shit sometimes and says ugly things to their significant other, but doing it in front of five other people is pretty unusual. And the guy will have his finger on the button, so his temperament is fair game.

DUH,,, I believe everything I read....

the dems

And the guy will have his finger on the button, so his temperament is fair game.

Posted by rcade



Of course it's fair game.

So, let's look at it a bit....


It can be easily argued that both President Clinton and President Lyndon Johnson had tempers that were at least on-par with that of McCain.


McCain's temper isn't an issue of Hillary wins the Dem primary - her temper is far more legendary.


If Obama wins then we will soon learn about how he beat up his wife when she made fun of his ears.

yes, but what if she IS as trllop and a cunt?

RC -- Agree it is fair. I also think his "bomb, bomb, Iran" ditty of last year is fair, too. Unfortunately, half of Mccain is rational and moderate. It's the other half of McCain that's worrying.

And for anyone who interpretes my previous remarks about stopped watches as a slight at the lovely and warm Mrs. McCain, please don't. She's a hottie no matter how much makeup she wears. (And they say women like confident men with a teasing sense of humor...)


Even a stopped watch is right twice a day.

Posted by townncountry at 2008-04-16 10:24 AM | Reply

I hate to say it but this is Technically Untrue. If a Watch stops ticking during Daylight Saving Time the time that was last registered would be in daylight saving mode. So if it stops at 6:00PM Daylight saving time then when Standard time rolls around it will not be the same 6:00 it will be an hour faster than the Standard time. Just an FYI.

Larry Mohr

Posted by LarryMohr at 2008-04-16 10:33 AM


That was good, Larry.


A trollop!?.. He must have picked that up from his buddies during the Salem witch trials..

Maybe he wasn't aware of it then. Most people still haven't heard this.

Posted by nullifidian


Right... because 3 REPORTERS decided not to REPORT on it for 16 years, and still don't want their names attached to this potentially massive story.

Who can blame them though? I mean look at what reporting on watergate did for Woodward and Bernstein... Hindsight being 20/20, I'm sure they would have much rathered staying anonymous.

Thanks Jeff also true.

Larry Mohr

Maybe she likes being called a cunt? Hell, AmericanUnity likes having her hair pulled.

Chicks are strange like that.


What was her reaction to his supposed outburst?

Vote McCain, or he'll fuck you up and call your wife a cunt. (That's a little wory for a bumper sticker isn't it?)
Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-04-16 09:40 AM


YEAH!

And there is no room for the "Family Values" part!

redneck;

What are your famiy values?

John McCain seems nearly as bitter as those God Damned retards that cling to their insignificant guns and bibles.
I'll bet that little white bitch would cross the street if he saw me comin'
Sincerely,
Hussien Obama

Was it a front page article when some dude claimed to be licking Barack's ballbag while Obama snorted coke? Just curious...

This just in! That violent mother fucker McCain was reported to have fought skin cancer!

We can't trust such a violent man around "the button'!

If a Watch stops ticking during Daylight Saving Time...

If this wasn't so pathetic it would be funny.

The broken watch is just an indicator. If it stopped at 6 o'clock then it doesn't matter if it's AM or PM or if Daylight Savings is in effect. Twice a day the indicator displays the correct time - for an instant.

No what is Pathetic is You Mikey nothing more needs Be said about THAT one.

Larry Mohr

What's all the fuss over standard navy lingo. I gotta admit though...I didn't use the word, "trollop," much.

Are you sure your name isn't Lenny Mohr?

whats the problem. sounds to me like he
knows how to handle women. I bet she didnt
give him some shit about losing his hair after that
you have to put them in thier place every now and then.
and its just like what I told my last date...lets see..that was in....uh....er.....lets see,..the last women I was with....was in.....uh.....er.......hhhhmmm mmmmmm.

I'm trying to figure out how to use "Rin Tin Tin's bitch" in a sentence and apply it to Larry. It's gonna take a bit of time.

I have no problem with McCain calling his wife whatever name he can get away with. I bet they both laughed after he said it.

2 abusive flags posted. I wonder if I will have to flag anymore comments.

Larry

Did you flag all the "cunt" posts?

RCADE! Protect me!
Sincerely,
Mohron

Did you flag my Lenny Mohr post? I'll bet you don't even get it.

Larry loves to get people in trouble it would seem.

Im SoRRy 2. HavE to do This Rcade But Threy are PicKing On me Again For PuTTing My Real Name on EVerytjing I post On The Inter Net. Pleaezzzzze Dump Them Sick Em Boy. Caprice

Larrry Mohr Gravy

No Jackass I don't like getting people in trouble. I shouldn't have to put up with the shit You Dig??

Larry Mohr


No Jackass I don't like getting people in trouble. I shouldn't have to put up with the shit You Dig??

Larry Mohr

Posted by LarryMohr at 2008-04-16 11:23 AM | Reply


You made your bed Lenny. Just yesterday you said "If I typed it I meant it."

Are you a liar or do you have a selective memory?

larry's got more chins then china town

larry's so fat last time he seen 90210 is on the scale

This is what cracks me up:

"So if it stops at 6:00PM Daylight saving time then when Standard time rolls around it will not be the same 6:00 it will be an hour faster than the Standard time."

Classic MohrOn Logic.

It's like we're running a GED prep class here.

Of course MohrOn jumped into this thread so he show his solidarity with his/her sistas. But he couldn't help himself. He had to show his ignorance as well.

Flag Away Sista...

larry's so fat he can only be seen at Imax theatres...

I shouldn't have to put up with the shit You Dig??

Too late.

Larry's so fat that her belly button makes an echo

he's so large if you did an autopsy on him at the dock the Kitner boy would come spilling out...

I know the verbotten subject, but are hookers in the basement still fair game?

but are hookers in the basement still fair game?

Posted by 101Chairborne


I highly doubt it...

If this is the best shit you dems have to attack McCain with your toast before the confetti hits the floor at your convention.

Throw in his obvious "confused moments", his 100 year war, his flip flops on tax cuts, Bush and Rummy's military geniusness (until he figured out what was obvious to the rest of the world), fundamentalists,amnesty, campaign finance et al and he's the one in the toaster.
John McBush 2008: Leave no position unpandered.

Lah-wy is the hooker in the basement. He just doesn't get any customers.

Larry's BBQ and dog obedience school is open for business!

Throw in his obvious "confused moments"


At least he doesn't have to make up "war stories" and then claim to have "misspoke" when when it's an obvious lie.

Larry's mom went down into the basement and freed the hookers. Thats what he gets for not taking her into town to get charcoal.

So she's a trollop and a cunt and a billionaire and she lifts recipes.

What's not to like?



Of course he only called her that because he forgot her name.

"Who can blame them though? I mean look at what reporting on watergate did for Woodward and Bernstein... Hindsight being 20/20, I'm sure they would have much rathered staying anonymous.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-04-16 10:37 AM"

Yup. And no reporters knew anything about JFK's dalliances, or they would surely have reported those as well.

but look..there is no real proof he called her that. remember that if bush and cheney can get all the people together to be the REAL 9/11 culprits, then the leftist media can make this shit up...Im just saying.

Was it a front page article when some dude claimed to be licking Barack's ballbag while Obama snorted coke?

That crazy-ass accusation never made it into any credible media outlet.

Once a story's out there in the mainstream, as this one has been since the Daily News ran it, would you prefer that I hide it from Retort readers? One of the joys of doing this is to get around the media filter and talk openly about the kinds of thinks political reporters tell each other but won't report.

AND IF this proves to be true, I cant wait for some women's group to come out with some sort of indignation or bullshit.
all we will have to do is remind them the exact time they became totally irelavant......when blowjob was found to be the sexual harrasser in chief with fat interns and
THEY SAID NOTHING.......
or maybe the times we see women in the middle east covered from head to toe and treated like cattle.
AND THEY SAY NOTHING.,,,,,,,

so come on N.A.G.....give us your best shot cause it wont be enough.......

It's gonna take a bit of time.

Posted by LeeAtwater at 2008-04-16 11:06 AM


I hate to admit it but that made me spew my coffee.

"Was it a front page article when some dude claimed to be licking Barack's ballbag while Obama snorted coke?"

And, as previously reported, the "dude" in question failed 2 polygraph tests early in March.

Watching Null Set defend this story is like watching Buffalo Bob defend the book about GW1 being a pedophile. Have you ever heard the phrase, "don't believe everything you read?" Just because something's in a book doesn't mean that it's true.

That said, I don't care if McCain called his wife a cunt. She probably deserved it.

Kinda begs the question...

"Senator McCain do you still call your wife a cunt?"

I don't think this hurts McCain. No one has put their name on a confirmation, and who can recall their exact words of 16 years ago. It's not like a defining event for him, and people say a lot of things in an offhanded way.

The Feminists aren't going to vote for a Republican, and I'd wager that a significant number of conservative types would understand that the marriage may have been a bit rocky at the time, and Cindy's behavior obnoxious.

In 1989, Cindy McCain became addicted to opioid painkillers such as Percocet and Vicodin,[25] which she initially took to alleviate pain following two spinal surgeries for ruptured discs[26][27] and to ease emotional stress during the Keating Five scandal,[25] which involved her as a bookkeeper who had difficulty finding receipts.[15] The addiction progressed to where she resorted to stealing drugs from her own AVMT.[26] During 1992, Tom Gosinski, the director of government and international affairs for AVMT, discovered her drug theft.[28] Subsequently in 1992, her parents staged an intervention to force her to get help;[15] she told her husband about her problem, attended a drug treatment facility, began outpatient sessions, and ended her three years of active addiction.[25] A hysterectomy in 1993 resolved her back pain.[25][27]


Maybe he'd just had it with her nonsense. She was obviously out of control, a drug addict, guilty of felony theft, and yet McCain did stand by her and help her get well.

And she could end it all by saying, Back then I deserved the label.

All of this misses the point that men use "cunt" to describe a behavior. It's a gender neutral term. Same applies to other words like bitch, whore, etc. Men use these words as a pejorative label for other men, not just women, and they represent a level of disgust commensurate with the behavior.

So, you don't want to called a bitch, cunt, whore, don't act like one.

"Just because something's in a book doesn't mean that it's true."

No kidding, dumbass. I didn't say this story is provably true. It's certainly not inconsistent with what is know about McTrollop's temper problem.

But in any case, I like to you see rightwingers on the defensive.

At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there." McCain's face reddened, and he responded, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt." McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.



Simply sounds like a typical couple at one time or another.....get real and be honest.

Oh, and it's better than NULLandVOID talking about all girls being fair game once they menstruate. Yeah, you remember that late night blogging of yours as do other DR posters......so go ahead and deny it.......or, maybe scream for my home address again. ROFLMAO.

"All of this misses the point that men use "cunt" to describe a behavior. It's a gender neutral term. Same applies to other words like bitch, whore, etc. Men use these words as a pejorative label for other men, not just women, and they represent a level of disgust commensurate with the behavior."

A MAN does not publicly call his wife a "cunt", "bitch" or "whore". There simply is no excuse. This is abuse pure and simple and might as well have been a punch except he can't lift his arms anymore. Lucky for her. If he thought so badly of her he should have divorced her a long time ago. Except he would lose her family's money of course.

And I can understand his wife's addiction to pain killers since ruptured disks are incredibly painful and the morphine based drugs they give you is horribly addictive. Considering the age of her sons it is obvious their pregnancies and births contributed to her back problems.

Ozark, how often do you call your wife a cunt since you don't think its a big deal?

"Simply sounds like a typical couple at one time or another.....get real and be honest.

Posted by ride_on at 2008-04-16 01:07 PM"

Maybe in your family it is. Calling a woman a "cunt" for pointing out thinning hair isn't acceptable in my world.

"and who can recall their exact words of 16 years ago.

Posted by OzarkAggie at 2008-04-16 12:56 PM"

You're right - he may have actually called her a twat.

In my world, we treat ladies with respect. They are only referred to as "madamoiselle" or "my dear," never "cunt," and I only give them foot rubs or feed them grapes while we ride in a handsome cab to the World's Fair.

-Montecore, circa 1700

So I take it we can count Joe in the "it's okay to call your wife a cunt if she comments about your hair" category. Your mommy must be so proud of you, Angry Joe. (Wait, this does make sense. Angry Joe appears to have a temper as bad as McAncient's.) No wonder you don't have a girlfriend, Joe.

....maybe he said "my dear, you are a cunt". Acceptable now? hehehe

So what about NULLandVOID's expression that they are legitimate fair game once they menstruate....no opinion about your little buddy and that? Oh, he's free to deny it......

He called her a "trollop"? Wow, he really is old!

Simply sounds like a typical couple at one time or another.....get real and be honest.

Posted by ride_on


I guess RideOn is used to being called a cunt by his boyfriend.

There goes Munty, trying to goad me into a conversation about my personal life. Sorry Munty, you'll have to make up for your own pathetic existence some other way today.

Well, it's worked before. Glad to see you learn from your past mistakes.

By the way, i try to treat everyone in my family with respect. If that's circa 1700, so be it.

Oh yeah, if you think it's okay to call your wife a cunt for commenting about your hairline, you're a cunt.

Well if she is a trollop and a cunt, wouldn't he know it?

The question should be 'senator, why should we trust your judgment when you married a trollop who is a cunt'?

He called her a "trollop"? Wow, he really is old!
Posted by BobSF


HAHA - FF!! Why, that scallywag and ne'er-do-well!

Ozark, how often do you call your wife a cunt...

I'm single, and it's rare that I assign that attribution.

I don't deny that it is a crude word, and many people would not use it in private, less so in public.

But the notion that you can not say that to a woman under any circumstances is wrong. They don't like it because they know it is on the lower rung, a term that describes a filthy despicable person, and so they viciously attack its use.

Why? Because girls are sugar and spice...

No. They want preference, an exception, a denial that any woman could sink that far.

They can and do.

Know the expression, Calling a Spade a Spade?

News Flash:

Talaban siezes power in Afganistan!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry I thought we were rehashing all of the news from 1992

Ozark - I'm not sure I agree with you. If a guy says "you're getting a few crow's feet around your eyes," and his wife responds "at least I'm not going bald you fucking prick," I'm not sure that would be seen much differently. Both of them go way overboard for what is an appropriate response, in my opinion, and both would raise eyebrows if said in public. Of course, I'm circa 1700 though.

Monte, the entire 1700 post was a joke. Guess I still need to work on that...

I know it was Joe, and it was a decent effort at that. No worries.

Tampa

I guess you think mental instability goes away after a few years. It doesn't. I bet you think Reagans Alzheimers did affext him either. When they asked about the arms for hostages, he really didn't know what they were talking about. He just signed where they told him and read the speaches like a good little puppet. That might be too much for McCain to handle, But they'll just get a rubber stamp made of his name in case the disease gets too far along.

Of course, I'm circa 1700 though.

Posted by mOntecOre

So that was before the Fry Daddy was invented. You shouldn't have a problem with wet taters and hot oil.

That crazy-ass accusation never made it into any credible media outlet.

Posted by rcade


This thread links to DailyKos.com

"News Flash:

Talaban siezes power in Afganistan!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry I thought we were rehashing all of the news from 1992

Posted by Tampa"

Yeah! And THAT certainly didn't have any ripple effects that impact us right up until today!

What?

Oh, they did?

We are?

Nevermind.

"But the notion that you can not say that to a woman under any circumstances is wrong. "

Dude, you don't call your wife a cunt under any circumstances. It's called having respect for someone who is supposedly very important to you. Honestly you need to learn a bit about relationships with others.

Of course, I'm circa 1700 though.

Posted by mOntecOre at 2008-04-16 01:50 PM


Well ya old coot...no wonder you are so grumpy somedays.

gash!"

Posted by LetUsPrey at 2008-04-16 01:13 AM

That sounds mighty reminiscent of a former poster on the DR.

Furio, I agree 100%.

Amazing. Now, all of a sudden, dems are concerned about character! What a quick turn around that was. It should also be mentioned that Bill Clinton had and still has a bad temper. He's actually been caught on tape showing it, not to mention the people who actually worked around him, like WH staff and secret service agents. Many of them have openely said he was a complete A-hole and was always flying off the handle and treating staff like shit.

If this is supposed to mean something then the dems have some explaining to do about why Bill can have a temper and McCain can't.

I can't ever remember using cunt in public to scorn a woman, but I can say that among blue collar white guys it's used as a pejorative, usually retrospectively. Like in response to story, What a cunt, not directed to the person, but within a group to assign a level of disgust for the person and the behavior being discussed.

The social wrong of it is that PC has everyone running around using terms like the "a" word, "b" word, "c" word, like that makes it polite when everyone else knows the word you're referring to.

This has also truncated any discussion that we might have about "words" and what they really mean, and why anyone feels those words to be appropriate.

PC really stands for Persecution Complex. By embracing it you can claim umbrage and that's enough to defeat and disparage your opponent. It also excuses the behavior that brought the rebuke.

What happens to married couples is often - and especially where drug addiction is involved - things start piling up until something triggers a spark, then all the slights and loathing come together, and the response seems out of proportion.

I'll bet that women don't know that Whore is a more derogatory term, at least in a guy's vocabulary, because it's not just offensive behavior but disgraceful in of itself.

A trollop, by the way, is a shameless flirt and often an easy lay.

These words are part of a blue collar and military idiom, and the feminists targeted us as the enemy long ago. Simple enough, we're crude men, but then we didn't invite you into the locker room - Remember?

There's a reason why the military and veterans as a whole are a declining percentage of the population, and a lot of it has to do with single moms and feeding antidepressants and Ritalin to grade school boys. You might think of it as a gentle neutering of the Y chromosome, but it follows a castration complex among women's groups.

I agree that words matter, and McCain should have been more circumspect, and made his apologies, not just to his wife but anyone present - if the story is true, and I think it may be factual.

But the PC crowd will miss the point if the focus is simply on the word and women's objection to it. They have no right to limit a man's use of the word, but as always - and as in the Phelps case - civil damages may arise if you've truly caused injury.

Show Me Your Scars!

LMAO

Here: I found a photo of Cindy smacking John McCain with a bottle of champagne.

Great post, Ozark. I wonder if everyone whining about the word cunt will understand it.

Hillary is too


"Tampa

I guess you think mental instability goes away after a few years....."

Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Are you speaking from personal experience?

I was suggesting that an unsubstantiated account of an event from 18 years ago is't worth much. Unless you're a political shill just looking for a reason to attack someone.

I actually hope McCain wins, and the republicans take back the house and senate. That way when the economy collapses and the army is humiliated in Iraq--it won't be the dems fault, and maybe we can get a decent country.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-04-16 02:43 AM


Vintage party over country...Beefalo Boob admits that he is actually hoping that the economy collapses and the US Army is humiliated in Iraq so that his party looks good.

Geez, even Lenny isn't stupid enough to say something as partisan as that...

Ozark,

I couldn't give two shits who you call a cunt or not. But your liberal approach to saying whatever you want is sad. You sound like a 5yo. And your military example? Tell me when you were little PFC Asswipe what would have happened if you went up to your LT and called him a cunt because you thought he was just some ROTC shit? And what would your NCO have done to you even if he agreed with your assessment?

Its called having respect. If you don't have respect for someone say what you want. If you do and denigrate them in public. you are just a little punk.

You don't get much pussy do you?

If you don't have respect for someone say what you want

Posted by furio


I hope a hooker with AIDS pisses in your ear.

If you're not laughing at my last post, chances are I don't care for you as a person.

But the PC crowd will miss the point if the focus is simply on the word and women's objection to it. They have no right to limit a man's use of the word, but as always - and as in the Phelps case - civil damages may arise if you've truly caused injury.


Posted by OzarkAggie at 2008-04-16 02:50 PM


Shut yer gob ya daft cunt! ;)

"I hope a hooker with AIDS pisses in your ear."

ARob,

This happen to you trying to pick up nappy headed hos at the Trenton train station?

This happen to you trying to pick up nappy headed hos at the Trenton train station?

Posted by furio


All too often Furio... all too often :(

ARob,

I'm gonna have to ask you to either spell out the whole name or put a space in between A & Rob... ARob is far too close to Arab, and I'll be damned if anyone is going to insult me like that.

beyatch...

You always hurt the ones you love the most. Bush proved that as the greatest betrayer of conservatism this nation has ever known. Only like-minded traitors can stomach him.

So anyone thinking of voting for this most unstable, aging man had better reconsider. He's not going to get any better, and he'll make fools of his supporters.

So anyone thinking of voting for this most unstable, aging man had better reconsider. He's not going to get any better, and he'll make fools of his supporters.

Posted by sagmain


It sure beats voting for either Barnum or Bailey.

So anyone thinking of voting for this most unstable, aging man had better reconsider.

Good advice... I'll do just that.
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Nope, still better then Obama or Clinton...

But in any case, I like to you see rightwingers on the defensive.

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-04-16 12:57 PM


Defensive? No, what cracks me up is that the Left is so desperate to find something about McCain to bash that they have to hang their hat on something said by McCain 18 years ago as reported by a party hack:

Democratic strategist Cliff Schecter claims in "The Real McCain" that the presumptive GOP nominee uttered the shocking slur in front of aides and reporters while campaigning for the senate in 1992.
...
Schecter, who makes no bones about being partisan...


No shit, this guy could teach Beefalo "I want the economy to collapse" Boob a thing or two about being partisan.

"Nope, still better then Obama or Clinton..."

Never said he wasn't.

But whatever you think of their politics or viewpoints, neither Hill or Obama are going to look flakey by uttering personal comments that are disturbing and embarassing.


(BTW, Ron Paul got more $$$$ from members of the military than all other candidates combined. They know a patriot when they see one.)

How does GayRob sound?

Ron Paul got more $$$$ from members of the military than all other candidates combined. They know a patriot when they see one.

Who?


How does GayRob sound?

Posted by furio


I'll bet to you it sounds phenominal, Frenchy, but unfortunately it doesn't work...


"Who?"

And therein lies the WFG (whole fucking gestalt) in a nutshell.

You don't get much pussy do you? Posted by furio

Does the term "pussy whipped" come to mind?

If the only reason for not using the word in any circumstance is a little reward from the little lady - and where there's quid pro quo and sex involved at least one person is prostituting themselves - then I'll abstain.

OTOH, as I wrote, the word is gender neutral, and perhaps furball has felt the sting himself. He's so offended!

"Defensive? No, what cracks me up is that the Left is so desperate to find something about McCain to bash that they have to hang their hat on something said by McCain 18 years ago as reported by a party hack:"

Nothing desperate about it all. It's just matching the kitchen sink strategy that Clinton is using and that the Republicans will use in the fall.

Many of us would prefer to see a campaign based on issues, but the pathetic political discourse in this country consisting of gotcha sound-bite politics, scandal mongering, etc., is just a fact of life. See the Nader article I posted.
www.drudge.com

Oh, and yes, every moment a McCain backer is disputing this story is time spent on the defensive.

A trollop, by the way, is a shameless flirt and often an easy lay....

Hmmm....

I get it now, Furio. You're not allowed to be disrespectful and use harsh words in public but on a message board it's just fine. You are one of the absolute worst when it comes to cussing people out on this board and calling them all sorts of names. And you have the gall to lecture someone else about their choice of words!?! Pathetic.

Look, if John (we're on first name basis) called her a cunt, I'm sure she is a cunt....and, of course he's a wavering, unpredictible piss poor excuse for GOP. The choices reek.

It would have been much more respectful if he just pressured a young woman who works for him to blow him instead.

Here: I found a photo of Cindy smacking John McCain with a bottle of champagne.
Posted by OzarkAggie


She does have a nice leg. More than I can say for Heather Mills.

"Does the term "pussy whipped" come to mind?

If the only reason for not using the word in any circumstance is a little reward from the little lady - and where there's quid pro quo and sex involved at least one person is prostituting themselves - then I'll abstain."

Oh yeah pussy whipped means you don't call your wife a cunt whenever she annoys you a bit. I got it now.

You are so seriously depressed. You should travel abroad for year. I live in Hungary and Walt knows Tailand real well. You need to chill and experience reality outside the confines of the American System of Life.

"I'll bet to you it sounds phenominal, Frenchy, but unfortunately it doesn't work..."

GayRod,

The truth is never funny and often it is unfortunate. GayRod it is.

'At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt.'

John McCunt

John McCain has had troubles controlling his temper his entire life.

His parents used to hafta stick him in a tub fulla cold water when he went into a rage spin.

The guy aint no gentlemen either.

He screwed around on his first wife after getting back from selling out his fellow soldiers at the Hanoi Hilton like the pussy he is/was and forever shall be.

Whores, strippers, orgies the boy masde up fer lost timew in a big way.

Eventually he divorced his first wife, notsomuch because she had been in a car accident (which she never told him about in all her letters to him cos she didn't want to "demoralise" him) but more because he wanted to become apolitican and he needed a sugar momma.

Enter airhead and heiress Cindy.

Johnboy kept the hoes outta sight long enuff to talk Cindy Lou Who in to marrying him so he could use her daddy's money to run fer office.

After that it was game on fer McLame again.

This helped prompt Cindy into having a pill popping
problem which included stealing from her own charity which John McCain is typical fashion whitewashed from the front pages.

/the mnore you know.

Be Well.

John McCain was called "McNasty"

Hillary's nickname in Highschool was "Frgidaire"

Chilly Hilly and Yawn McNasty.

Fark them bitches!

G08ama!

Be Well.

/the mnore you know.

Be Well.


What a bunch of tripe...like a long joke without a punchline.

McCain didn't contribute to her back pain, which was later corrected by surgery, and I don't blame her taking the pills because a herniated disc is very painful, but the timing of revelation was in 94 not 92 when she was apparently in such bad shape that her family called for an intervention. That she changed the subject before only indicates that she's a politician's wife and plays a part. You'd be a fool if you didn't think she wants McCain to win the presidency as much as he does.

And McCain has a better chance of winning the election in November than most Dems would like to admit. He's definitely on message of late, and the Clintons are adding to the negatives - both hers and Obama's are rising.

Women - Can't live with 'em, can't cunt trollop.

McBushs's wife reminds me of Cruella in "101 Dalmations". What do you think?


www.youtube.com

'At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt.'

'I'm calling you a f------ jerk!'

'Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly?' he asked. 'Because Janet Reno is her father.'


After he bent over for Bush back in 2000, I always said I wouldn't be able to vote for him. But if someone could guarantee me that lines like this would fly openly during his presidency, I'd vote McCain. Looking at the leading candidates, this may be the only chance I have of the president doing something that makes me smile.

Why would Obama lie? lmao




According to the pastor, Mr. Obama then told him, "You can get kind of rough in the sermons, so what we've decided is that it's best for you not to be out there in public."





www.nytimes.com

"I get it now, Furio. You're not allowed to be disrespectful and use harsh words in public but on a message board it's just fine."

Evercunt,

I think you are a cunt and am happy to announce it. But I have never insulted my parents nor would I call a wife a cunt. I am amazed that you cannot see the difference in publicly insulting some shithead, like you, and that of a close loved one.

Guess this why your family has always been trailer trash and always will be.

after getting back from selling out his fellow soldiers at the Hanoi Hilton like the pussy he is/was and forever shall be.



Posted by dethspud at 2008-04-16 07:27 PM


Fuck right off with that shit.

He was wounded and denied medical treatment. He was then beaten and tortured. Try it sometime and see how much of a "pussy" you become.

I would've thought that you'd stay away from this type of BS after the multiple drubbings you suffered at the fingers of RoC.

I guess I over-estimated you.


PS - You unwittingly acknowledged that torture does in fact work.



You unwittingly acknowledged that torture does in fact work.
~JEFFJ


Or he sold out his fellow soldiers for better treatment, just as easy a read from what was posted.


Jeff do you endorse the use of the treatment given McCain because you say it worked?


Zap,

do you endorse the use of the treatment given McCain because you say it worked?

No.

I was simply busting the Tater's chops because on the subject of torture he has on many occasions stated, unequivicably: "Torture doesn't work. Ever."


Or he sold out his fellow soldiers for better treatment, just as easy a read from what was posted.


given the facts, do you really want to run with that "explanation"?



given the facts, do you really want to run with that "explanation"?
~JeffJ


Given the facts I think it works as well as your supposition.

Given the facts I think it works as well as your supposition


The "facts" are that he was brutally tortured with long-lasting physical effects.

He "sold out" his buddies because he reached his breaking point.

Your "explanation" for Spud's comments make it sound as if he was relegated to sleeping on the floor, was offered a cot in exchange for selling out his buddies, and McCain took the offer because he is a piece of shit. Not to mention the fact that he was offered a release and refused to be released until all of his fellow soldiers were released as well - this "selfish" act resulted in his spending a couple of more years in that hell-hole.


Yeah, he really 'sold out' his buddies.


What Democrats don't seem to understand is that the general public (IMO) has Swiftie hangover. Kerry's service was noble - he volunteered, served, saw combat, was decorated and honorably discharged. All of that is impressive, however, McCain's story is more compelling - far more IMO. Any serious attempt to 'swiftboat' McCane's service will likely back-fire. Big time.

"McCain's story is more compelling - far more IMO. Any serious attempt to 'swiftboat' McCane's "

Come on Jeff, you can spell the man's name right twice in the same sentence. We know you can.



Any serious attempt to 'swiftboat' McCane's service will likely back-fire.


I hope it doesn't occur as I would hope the Dems would be above those tactics.

Sorry Zat.


I really like "McCane" for its subtlety, but I don't always remember to use it.

I am glad you pointed this out though - it strikes me as funny that I spelled his name differently in the same sentence.

"funny"

Me too, Jeff.

And I'm more and more inclined to vote Nader again.

Nader?


What about Badnarik?

I would hope the Dems would be above those tactics.


I wouldn't bet on it - politics is ugly, especially when a campaign race is tight.


That said, I don't think the Hillary camp would stoop so low, however, I wouldn't put it past the Obama camp.

Let's see.....Bill Clinton has sex with an intern in the White House and lies about it under oath, and the Dems want him for a 3rd term.

McCain calls a few politician fucking assholes, which we all know politicians are, and he's unfit for the presidency.

Can you say DOUBLE STANDARD?


Can you say DOUBLE STANDARD?

Yea that the difference.


***********

McCane is obvious McBush is profound.



McSame is best of all.

This is the same BS story we always here about on both sides. I can't believe people still fall for this crap.

Oh, I heard he also has black babies in SC.
Kerry's Purple hearts were from paper cuts.
... and pretty much anything that comes out of Wobbies mouth.

All Lies!!!


McCain calls a few politician fucking assholes, which we all know politicians are, and he's unfit for the presidency.


That is not the only reason he is unfit.

"McCain calls a few politician fucking assholes, which we all know politicians are, and he's unfit for the presidency."

So do you go around calling everyone at work a "fucking asshole"? Great way of finessing people to come around to your point of view.

I can just see the future now...

"President McCain. On behalf of the EU I would like to discuss trade relations with the US"

"Suck my cock you fucking Euro trash cunt!"

Jeff-

Posted by dethspud at 2008-04-16 07:27 PM

Fuck right off with that shit.

He was wounded and denied medical treatment. He was then beaten and tortured. Try it sometime and see how much of a "pussy" you become.
I would've thought that you'd stay away from this type of BS after the multiple drubbings you suffered at the fingers of RoC.

I guess I over-estimated you.

Posted by JeffJ at 2008-04-17 07:14 AM


Vizzini's "dizzying intellect" is such that he can't help himself from spouting inanities, even when he is demonstrably wrong:

He was flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam, when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi.[36][37][38][39] McCain fractured both arms and a leg,[40] and then nearly drowned when he parachuted into Truc Bach Lake in Hanoi.[36] After he regained consciousness, a mob attacked him,[41] crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt, and bayoneted him; he was then transported to Hanoi's main Hoa Loa Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton".[41][42]

Although McCain was badly wounded, his captors refused to treat his injuries, instead beating and interrogating him to get information.[41] Only when the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a top admiral did they give him medical care[41] and announced his capture. His status as a prisoner of war (POW) made the front pages of The New York Times[43] and The Washington Post.[44]

McCain spent six weeks in the Hoa Loa hospital, receiving marginal care.[36] Now having lost 50 pounds (23 kg), in a chest cast, and with his hair turned white,[36] McCain was sent to a different camp on the outskirts of Hanoi[45] in December 1967, into a cell with two other Americans who did not expect him to live a week.[46] In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, where he would remain for two years.[41]

In July 1968, McCain's father was named commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater.[2] McCain was immediately offered early release.[36] The North Vietnamese wanted a worldwide propaganda coup by appearing merciful, and also wanted to show other POWs that elites like McCain were willing to be treated preferentially.[41] McCain turned down the offer of repatriation; he would only accept the offer if every man taken in before him was released as well.[47]

In August of 1968, a program of severe torture began on McCain, at the same time as he was suffering from dysentery,[41][36] and McCain made an anti-American propaganda "confession".[36] He has always felt that his statement was dishonorable,[48] but as he would later write, "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine."[41] His injuries left him permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head.[49] He subsequently received two to three beatings per week because of his continued refusal to sign additional statements.[50] Other American POWs were similarly tortured and maltreated in order to extract "confessions" and propaganda statements,[41] with many enduring even worse treatment than McCain.[51]
I've highlighted the pertinent points to make it easier for the Vizz to both read and understand what he read.

INCONTHEIVABLE!

Furio, with the way you lash out at people here I have a hard time believing that you don't do so in other places. However, I'll take you at your word and assume that you don't. That being said, I see no difference in calling people the names you call them here as opposed to at home or in public.

Do you think if you sent a letter to someone, or an email, that read just like your last post to me that it wouln't be just as offensive? You call me stupid and white trash yet you are the ignorant one who can not see the similarity between the words here or if you said them to my face. The only difference is that if it were to my face then we'd be able to straighten it out right then and there.

Oh, and white trash does not spend their time on political message boards. I know, I grew up around plenty of them.

"Author: McCain Called Wife Cunt, Trollop"

Well, is she or isn't she?

Enquiring minds want to know!

Everlong,

Lighten up. You notice I don't get all upset when people insult me here.

Anyway you are constantly getting off topic the issue is about McCain publicly calling his wife a cunt. You seem to think its okay or are trying to make an obtuse point about name calling in general is the same as insulting your wife. I really don't get it.

Finally don't assume you can straighten things out in your favor in person. Threatening violence is really weak.

Believe it or not, kids: words have meaning - they have weight and power. Just the same as if you call your wife "baby" or "honey" or if you see a certain kind of bird and correctly call it say, a swan.

You must not call your wife by the nasty names in the headline, especially in publc. It's wrong.

And yes I am aware that in certain English-speaking cultures the "c" word is used sort of interchangeably with "asshole" or "dumbass" or such, but mainly against males. Any time it is used against a female it is offensive. It is one of the last words with such power to offend in our numbed-down world.

Having said all this, I still wonder if this Schecter has some kind of axe to grind with McCain and is he a reliable, truthful witness?

Woah, Furio, I didn't go off topic at all. Once again you are showing your vast reaches of logical thought and reasoning. And, you are the one who veered off course as far as the topic goes. Does this sound familiar?

"I couldn't give two shits who you call a cunt or not. But your liberal approach to saying whatever you want is sad. You sound like a 5yo. And your military example? Tell me when you were little PFC Asswipe what would have happened if you went up to your LT and called him a cunt because you thought he was just some ROTC shit? And what would your NCO have done to you even if he agreed with your assessment?

Its called having respect. If you don't have respect for someone say what you want. If you do and denigrate them in public. you are just a little punk.

You don't get much pussy do you?"


And this is only one of many flaming posts from you. All I did was point out the fact that you trash people here all the damn time. And you have the nerve to tell me to 'lighten up'? In th first place, I was very calm when I wrote the posts to you. My blood pressure didn't raise one point.

And this is fucking hillarious!!!

"You notice I don't get all upset when people insult me here."

What!?! What!?! You have got to be joking. I don't think anyone could read what you have written here and honestly say they don't think you were worked up.

It's like everything you wrote was directed at yourself. You may not think it's true, but you blow up at people and cuss them up and down on damn near every thread you post on.

I guess the bottom line is that you need to take your own advice and lighten up. Whatever you do, quit assigning blame to people when you are a worse offender.

Oh, and one more thing, I wasn't threatening anything, but if you call people things like punk and suggest they don't get pussy, and call them cunts you can rest assured that they are thinking about more than just replying to you.

You say threatening an ass whipping is weak and I say having a profanity laced temper tantrum is weak. It certainly shows who the real punk is.

Having said all this, I still wonder if this Schecter has some kind of axe to grind with McCain and is he a reliable, truthful witness?

Posted by MrFair


ask Dr's "Axe":>)

Many years ago, a girl friend taught me two bits of that old thing "Word-to-the-wise".

Using the "C" word will be unhealthy and part B result in a rapid RIN. And just what the hell is a RIN?

"Rap in the nuts"

Having seen McCains wife on some of the News shows, the description seems "FAIR AND BALANCED" to me....

Having seen McCains wife on some of the News shows, the description seems "FAIR AND BALANCED" to me....
Posted by celisary


Celunnecessary: Just what did you see or hear her do that would earn her such nasty names?

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