Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Wednesday, April 09, 2008

I have been told that Libs far outnumber rightwing nutjobs on this site. Let's count and see.

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It's mostly neocons and moonbats, very few libertarians.

Begin the count?

1 conservative-libertarian.

conservative.

Nihilist

We are Nihilists, Lebowski. We believe in nothing.

Neither. I'm heterosexual.

Well, I am a liberal and proud of it.

muslim and hated ;)

BULLSHIITE, KLIFFERD!

who hates you? let me at them!

*;]

Actually, I've thought the same thing for a long time now. With the exception of a few prolific leftwing posters such as Dethspud and Danni, right leaning posters on this site seem to far outnumber everyone else. Not only are they in the majority, but on an individual basis they tend to be far more prolific in their quantity of posts.

The following come to mind simply as I sit here at the keyboard.
Armyof1,BL2,CalifChris,Chairbo
rne,Cookfish,Goatman, JestGetting, Joe, Kerrin, MikeWarrior,Mooman, Nanc, Pinche, Pirate, Rideon, RobAH, Salamandagator, Sniper, Walt,WisGod,

Liberal.

MODER8

You're full of crap as usual.

Rethink your post Moder8 after sobbering up.

Mod: There are a lot more libs than Dani and deth. Regardless we libs outshine the cons based on quality regardless of quantity.

Liberal

Nationalist

-Sarge

Posse Comitatus

Whig.

I am registered as an "independent" on the voting roles.
On many issues I definitely lean to the right.

Yet I cannot stand Bush and 99% of his globalist policies.
I hate Bush's illegal war in Iraq.
I love our military guys.
I innocently voted for Bush in 2000.
I voted Democrat in 2004 because I woke up.
I'm about 75% conservative in my views on most subjects.

Where does that leave me?

Does ya even hafta ask?

Say it LOUD!

Liberal and Proud!

Be Well.

Librul

Fiscally conservative...very
Socially liberal...very

1. Wisgod 2.Rob the A Hole 3.Ride On 4. Rightisright 5. Nanc 6. Farmer John 7. OzarkAggie 8. Grendel 9. Murphy 10. Kris P Bacon 11. Litlebritdifrnt 12. Oohrah 13. Kuma 14. Salamandagator 15 Walt 16. Sniper 17. Joe 18. AndreaMackris 19. Spielmannsfluch 20. Pragmatus 21. Pinche Mao 22. Jeff J 23. Petrous 24. Crispee OC 25. kerrin57 26. Newjasman 27. TakeitEZ 28. Everlong 29. Bushlovertwo 30 Jestgettinalong 31. Pirate 32. Goatman 33. KBM 34. Legio 35. 08R4EVER 36. JonRyker 37. Sickolibs 38. Boaz 39. JoeLabey 40. JMJF 41. HagbardCeline 42. KWRX25 43. SE4NY6969 44. Cookfish 45. 101Chairborne 46. Reagan58 47. Johnson 48.Crackpipejunkie 49. MSGT 50. Jacque Strap

There are more, but Let's see those who say this site has more libs than cons put up or shut up.

Like this guy:

"bob, bob, bob.......... an overwhelming majority of folks on this site are libs. And they start the name calling...."

Posted by retnluvnit at 2008-04-03 07:10 PM | Reply | Flag

and he's wrong on the name calling also.

and this guy:

I would say the cons outnumber the libs 3-2.

"Not in this forum. This stat is coming from someone who sees smokestacks on the moon, though."

Posted by goatman at 2008-04-03 11:36 PM | Reply

and he's wrong about the Smokestacks on the moon also.

;-)

OH---and 51. retnluvnit

1. Wisgod 2.Rob the A Hole 3.Ride On 4. Rightisright 5. Nanc 6. Farmer John 7. OzarkAggie 8. Grendel 9. Murphy 10. Kris P Bacon 11. Litlebritdifrnt 12. Oohrah 13. Kuma 14. Salamandagator 15 Walt 16. Sniper 17. Joe 18. AndreaMackris 19. Spielmannsfluch 20. Pragmatus 21. Pinche Mao 22. Jeff J 23. Petrous 24. Crispee OC 25. kerrin57 26. Newjasman 27. TakeitEZ 28. Everlong 29. Bushlovertwo 30 Jestgettinalong 31. Pirate 32. Goatman 33. KBM 34. Legio 35. 08R4EVER 36. JonRyker 37. Sickolibs 38. Boaz 39. JoeLabey 40. JMJF 41. HagbardCeline 42. KWRX25 43. SE4NY6969 44. Cookfish 45. 101Chairborne 46. Reagan58 47. Johnson 48.Crackpipejunkie 49. MSGT 50. Jacque Strap 51. retnluvnit 52. Califchris

Liberal

FF for Sanantoniorogue.

BUFFALOBOB

It just wouldn't be a BBob thread without a video from youtube so I found
a song just for you - :)

"I am a liberal man"

1. Wisgod 2.Rob the A Hole 3.Ride On 4. Rightisright 5. Nanc 6. Farmer John 7. OzarkAggie 8. Grendel 9. Murphy 10. Kris P Bacon 11. Litlebritdifrnt 12. Oohrah 13. Kuma 14. Salamandagator 15 Walt 16. Sniper 17. Joe 18. AndreaMackris 19. Spielmannsfluch 20. Pragmatus 21. Pinche Mao 22. Jeff J 23. Petrous 24. Crispee OC 25. kerrin57 26. Newjasman 27. TakeitEZ 28. Everlong 29. Bushlovertwo 30 Jestgettinalong 31. Pirate 32. Goatman 33. KBM 34. Legio 35. 08R4EVER 36. JonRyker 37. Sickolibs 38. Boaz 39. JoeLabey 40. JMJF 41. HagbardCeline 42. KWRX25 43. SE4NY6969 44. Cookfish 45. 101Chairborne 46. Reagan58 47. Johnson 48.Crackpipejunkie 49. MSGT 50. Jacque Strap 51. retnluvnit 52. Califchris 53. Armyof1 54. MikeWarrior 55. Moomanfl

What's with the list? I vote libertarian.

56. Ray 57. Jsprague

"Conservatives v. Liberals" - humorous youtube video

"What's with the list? I vote libertarian."

Libertarians are rightwingers who smoke pot.

Count pitchers and catchers next.

Where's the lefty list? Or do we need to draft it on a roll of TP before publishing?

Wisgod


Can you count? Start your list and others can cut and paste and add to it.

1. Wisgod 2.Rob the A Hole 3.Ride On 4. Rightisright 5. Nanc 6. Farmer John 7. OzarkAggie 8. Grendel 9. Murphy 10. Kris P Bacon 11. Litlebritdifrnt 12. Oohrah 13. Kuma 14. Salamandagator 15 Walt 16. Sniper 17. Joe 18. AndreaMackris 19. Spielmannsfluch 20. Pragmatus 21. Pinche Mao 22. Jeff J 23. Petrous 24. Crispee OC 25. kerrin57 26. Newjasman 27. TakeitEZ 28. Everlong 29. Bushlovertwo 30 Jestgettinalong 31. Pirate 32. Goatman 33. KBM 34. Legio 35. 08R4EVER 36. JonRyker 37. Sickolibs 38. Boaz 39. JoeLabey 40. JMJF 41. HagbardCeline 42. KWRX25 43. SE4NY6969 44. Cookfish 45. 101Chairborne 46. Reagan58 47. Johnson 48.Crackpipejunkie 49. MSGT 50. Jacque Strap 51. retnluvnit 52. Califchris 53. Armyof1 54. MikeWarrior 55. Moomanfl 56. Ray 57. Jsprague



I consider myself a moderate but would assume that people here think I am a liberal.

Can you count?
Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Smart talk from a guy who has Reagan58 listed as #47....

The guy who runs the site is liberal. This the Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs.

This is a liberal website.

Buffalo Idiot - take me off the list. I am socially liberal.

Pirate

The owner of the site doesn't make it a liberal site. If more posters are conservative, this is a conservative site. I suppose if Rcade owned the site and only conservatives posted on it, you would still say it was a liberal site. That is your republican logic.

"Buffalo Idiot - take me off the list. I am socially liberal."

And someone who spends 90% of their time bashing "libs". Keep him on the list, Bob.

Buffalo Idiot - take me off the list. I am socially liberal.

Posted by JOE at 2008-04-09 02:49 PM | Reply


No Joe, you are not socially liberal. You are just too stupid to know you are a conservative. Anyone can go to your posts and see that you have nothing in common with liberal thinking.


"Once again - liberals were too stupid to vote for him, too. Not Kucinich's or Nader's fault. And it doesn't make either of them jerks for giving Americans the option to vote for someone who will live up to their promises."

Posted by JOE at 2008-04-09 01:40 PM | Reply

Need more? There's plenty.


Socially Liberal (to a point)
Financially Conservative.

Nationalistic to the bone.

Pro Guns
Pro Death Penalty
Pro 100% border and port security

Wish the candidates were talking about issues that concern me:
illegal immigration needs to stop
we need to fix our SS and Medicare problems
Tarrifs on all imports to even out our trade deficit


1. Wisgod 2.Rob the A Hole 3.Ride On 4. Rightisright 5. Nanc 6. Farmer John 7. OzarkAggie 8. Grendel 9. Murphy 10. Kris P Bacon 11. Litlebritdifrnt 12. Oohrah 13. Kuma 14. Salamandagator 15 Walt 16. Sniper 17. Joe 18. AndreaMackris 19. Spielmannsfluch 20. Pragmatus 21. Pinche Mao 22. Jeff J 23. Petrous 24. Crispee OC 25. kerrin57 26. Newjasman 27. TakeitEZ 28. Everlong 29. Bushlovertwo 30 Jestgettinalong 31. Pirate 32. Goatman 33. KBM 34. Legio 35. 08R4EVER 36. JonRyker 37. Sickolibs 38. Boaz 39. JoeLabey 40. JMJF 41. HagbardCeline 42. KWRX25 43. SE4NY6969 44. Cookfish 45. 101Chairborne 46. Reagan58 47. Johnson 48.Crackpipejunkie 49. MSGT 50. Jacque Strap 51. retnluvnit 52. Califchris 53. Armyof1 54. MikeWarrior 55. Moomanfl 56. Ray 57. Jsprague 58.2112

58. Member####

Eric Alterman
John Callender
Rafe Colburn
Juan Cole
Joe Conason
David Corn
John Dean
Brad DeLong
Gary Denton
E.J. Dionne
Bob Dreyfuss
Michael Finley
Brad Friedman
Dan Froomkin
Joe Gandelman
Richard Gwyn
Larry Handlin
Bob Herbert
Jim Hightower
Derrick Jackson
Dan Kennedy
Paul Krugman
Karen Kwiatkowski
J.D. Lasica
Joe Lavin
Sheila Lennon
Peter Levine
Dave Linabury
Susie Madrak
Rachel Maddow
Harold Meyerson
Michael Moore
Mark Morford
David Neiwert
John Nichols
Greg Palast
Ted Rall
Dennis Roddy
Michael Rogers
Neil Rogers
James Romenesko
Peter Rothberg
Lynn Samuels
Sam Seder
Mark Schmitt
Ed Schultz
Michael Shaw
David Sirota
Pam Spaulding
Helen Thomas
K. Vanden Heuvel
Matthew Yglesias

bluffalo? are you keeping track of all of us?

there appears to be many more liberals here than conservatives. i'd say we're outnumbered at a very high rate.

too bad there's not a search engine here for cursewords - that's a sure sign! not that conservatives never cuss, but your side is so much more efficient at it! *;]

p.s. and it appears that nearly all the links are to leftwing sites.

What difference does any of this make? You want to wear a label - fine, that's your choice. Sort of like those people who buy "logo wear" to demonstrate their loyalty to Pennzoil, or Ms Magazine, or some soon to be has-been pop culture idol.

Some call it "identity politics" but I just think it's another way to put people into a box and either discount them or provide them victim status - which is nearly redundant when you think of it.

There are those hapless few who have no identity, and cling to anything that says "I'm cool" or "weird" or at least attracts some attention.

Personally I sometimes wonder at the labels people wear because they don't seem to be consistent with what they say or do. I do think it's funny that libs try to label me con, and the cons try to label me lib.

I either respect your opinion or I don't. You have your facts straight or not. You get a pass or you're on my shit list - and some people never get off that list. Naturally The b00b is one of them.

Might as well add Corky (AKA Seaten Beggs) to your list Bob. Lord knows we'll be stuck with him after Hillary concedes.

"there appears to be many more liberals here than conservatives. i'd say we're outnumbered at a very high rate."

Try looking at this site when you're not high.

1. Wisgod 2.Rob the A Hole 3.Ride On 4. Rightisright 5. Nanc 6. Farmer John 7. OzarkAggie 8. Grendel 9. Murphy 10. Kris P Bacon 11. Litlebritdifrnt 12. Oohrah 13. Kuma 14. Salamandagator 15 Walt 16. Sniper 17. Joe 18. AndreaMackris 19. Spielmannsfluch 20. Pragmatus 21. Pinche Mao 22. Jeff J 23. Petrous 24. Crispee OC 25. kerrin57 26. Newjasman 27. TakeitEZ 28. Everlong 29. Bushlovertwo 30 Jestgettinalong 31. Pirate 32. Goatman 33. KBM 34. Legio 35. 08R4EVER 36. JonRyker 37. Sickolibs 38. Boaz 39. JoeLabey 40. JMJF 41. HagbardCeline 42. KWRX25 43. SE4NY6969 44. Cookfish 45. 101Chairborne 46. Reagan58 47. Johnson 48.Crackpipejunkie 49. MSGT 50. Jacque Strap 51. retnluvnit 52. Califchris 53. Armyof1 54. MikeWarrior 55. Moomanfl 56. Ray 57. Jsprague


I am taking myself off your stupid list. I am not a conservative.

am taking myself off your stupid list. I am not a conservative.

Posted by _2112_ at 2008-04-09 03:12 PM

Crank up some YYZ 2112. Who fucking cares what he classifies you as.

Can you count?
Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Smart talk from a guy who has Reagan58 listed as #47....

Posted by wisgod at 2008-04-09 02:47 PM | Reply | Flag


Yeah, you gotta think Bob's standards for liberal are pretty high if I'm on his list of cons.

Try looking at this site when you're not high.

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-04-09 03:06 PM


If you made that a requirement then you wouldn't have any libruls on this site.

Sincerely,

#58.

bluffalo? are you keeping track of all of us?

there appears to be many more liberals here than conservatives. i'd say we're outnumbered at a very high rate.

Posted by nanc at 2008-04-09 03:01 PM | Reply

Really? So far I see 57 names on the conservative list, and none on the liberal list. You should quit making things up, it is a bad example to set for children.

You should quit making things up, it is a bad example to set for children.

Like the astronauts faking their distance to Earth?

The b00b is a degenerate coward and compulsive liar.

If you really cared about the children you'd stop breathing.

1. Wisgod 2.Rob the A Hole 3.Ride On 4. Rightisright 5. Nanc 6. Farmer John 7. OzarkAggie 8. Grendel 9. Murphy 10. Kris P Bacon 11. Litlebritdifrnt 12. Oohrah 13. Kuma 14. Salamandagator 15 Walt 16. Sniper 17. Joe 18. AndreaMackris 19. Spielmannsfluch 20. Pragmatus 21. Pinche Mao 22. Jeff J 23. Petrous 24. Crispee OC 25. kerrin57 26. Newjasman 27. TakeitEZ 28. Everlong 29. Bushlovertwo 30 Jestgettinalong 31. Pirate 32. Goatman 33. KBM 34. Legio 35. 08R4EVER 36. JonRyker 37. Sickolibs 38. Boaz 39. JoeLabey 40. JMJF 41. HagbardCeline 42. KWRX25 43. SE4NY6969 44. Cookfish 45. 101Chairborne 46. Johnson 47.Crackpipejunkie 48. MSGT 49. Jacque Strap 50. retnluvnit 51. Califchris 52. Armyof1 53. MikeWarrior 54. Moomanfl 55. Ray 56. Jsprague

Reagan 58, sorry for the mistake.

58. 2112 59. Member 60. RightoCenter

If more posters are conservative, this is a conservative site. I suppose if Rcade owned the site and only conservatives posted on it, you would still say it was a liberal site. That is your republican logic.

----

1) Still doesn't change the fact that rcade fully controls the front page and that he gives it a liberal viewpoint. He determines what stories get posted on the front page and thus what stories we get to post on.

2) You haven't even taken into consideration people who view only. You can argue that the majority of posters are conservative but you cannot argue that the majority of viewers are conservative because you cannot sample them.

Ozarkannie

I wasn't the one faking the disatance from the Earth. Want to run another thread on that one too? It is a very convincing video for anyone with a brain.

;-)

Really? So far I see 57 names on the conservative list, and none on the liberal list.


How about you, BBob! You didn't put yourself on the liberal list.

Here are more who I believe consider themselves liberal:

Danni
Spud
Nullifidian
Truthhurts
ManyPaths
Moder8
Herm
Hans
Yomama
Moneywar
Zatoichi
Redneckville
SilverIronist
Yav
Zot

Pirate, you don't understand. Bob isn't going to put a list of lefties together even though he started the thread. Same as arguing you've never lost a round of golf...because you've never played a round of golf.

where are you finding this LIST?

1) Still doesn't change the fact that rcade fully controls the front page and that he gives it a liberal viewpoint. He determines what stories get posted on the front page and thus what stories we get to post on.


SO? As a liberal Rcader gives equal posting to all sides of all issues.


2) You haven't even taken into consideration people who view only. You can argue that the majority of posters are conservative but you cannot argue that the majority of viewers are conservative because you cannot sample them.

The point was never about who is LOOKING at the site--it is about who is POSTING on the site.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

"bob, bob, bob.......... an overwhelming majority of folks on this site are libs. And they start the name calling...."


Posted by retnluvnit at 2008-04-03 07:10 PM | Reply | Flag

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I would say the cons outnumber the libs 3-2.


"Not in this forum. This stat is coming from someone who sees smokestacks on the moon, though."


Posted by goatman at 2008-04-03 11:36 PM | Reply

Califchris

I'm not making up the liberal list. If you are--try putting numbers next to the names so we can keep count.

wisgod,

Never expected him to. That would be logical.

I'm not making up the liberal list.

----

Which exactly why you can state "This is not a liberal site". I know one is side that I'm counting is more than one side that I'm not counting And you complain about Republican logic?

* one side that I'm counting

I think thigs are pretty balanced around here.

Sure Rob has to post 18 hours each day to keep it balanced, but it's not like he has a life or anything.

So, I'll stick with pretty balanced.

1. Wisgod 2.Rob the A Hole 3.Ride On 4. Rightisright 5. Nanc 6. Farmer John 7. OzarkAggie 8. Grendel 9. Murphy 10. Kris P Bacon 11. Litlebritdifrnt 12. Oohrah 13. Kuma 14. Salamandagator 15 Walt 16. Sniper 17. Joe 18. AndreaMackris 19. Spielmannsfluch 20. Pragmatus 21. Pinche Mao 22. Jeff J 23. Petrous 24. Crispee OC 25. kerrin57 26. Newjasman 27. TakeitEZ 28. Everlong 29. Bushlovertwo 30 Jestgettinalong 31. Pirate 32. Goatman 33. KBM 34. Legio 35. 08R4EVER 36. JonRyker 37. Sickolibs 38. Boaz 39. JoeLabey 40. JMJF 41. HagbardCeline 42. KWRX25 43. SE4NY6969 44. Cookfish 45. 101Chairborne 46. Johnson 47.Crackpipejunkie 48. MSGT 49. Jacque Strap 50. retnluvnit 51. Califchris 52. Armyof1 53. MikeWarrior 54. Moomanfl 55. Ray 56. Jsprague 57. 2112 58. Member 59. RightoCenter

I'm not making up the liberal list. If you are--try putting numbers next to the names so we can keep count.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob

Then why did you start this thread, Mr. Half Ass?

Pirate

Would you want a democrat being the only one counting the votes in an election?

Same concept here

Conservatives have said that there are more liberals on this site than conservatives.

I say bullshit.

I'm proving my point--now conservatives can either count the liberals or STFU. Simple isn't it? Even a republican should be able to understand.

"Still doesn't change the fact that rcade fully controls the front page and that he gives it a liberal viewpoint. He determines what stories get posted on the front page and thus what stories we get to post on."

You do know that you can post on the stories on the Back Page also, right?


That being said, it appears to me that while there are lots of con posters here, the majority of the stories seem to be put up by lib posters.

Then why did you start this thread, Mr. Half Ass?

Posted by wisgod at 2008-04-09 03:42 PM |


Good point, wisgod.

Pirate also made a good point to BuffaloBob:

Which exactly why you can state "This is not a liberal site". I know one is side that I'm counting is more than one side that I'm not counting And you complain about Republican logic?

Of course one side will be weighted more (toward conservatives) when the other side (toward liberals) doesn't even have a list of names and the number is always ZERO! duh.
BBob -- are you listening?

If you ask the people on the rig where I work, I am a bleeding heart liberal.

If you ask my friends at home and with whom I grew up and have known me the longest and the best, I am an exactly in the middle moderate.

If you ask the people on this blog am conservative.

So I'll go with majority who are also the people who know me best: Moderate

I'm proving my point--now conservatives can either count the liberals or STFU. Simple isn't it? Even a republican should be able to understand.

----

1) It's just a list of names.
2) Your list has already been wrong.
3) It's YOUR claim that conservatives outnumber liberals. YOU prove it.

"he other side (toward liberals) doesn't even have a list of names and the number is always ZERO! duh.
BBob -- are you listening?"


Nobody is being prevented from creating a list of the left. Do it yourself or stop whining.

"3) It's YOUR claim that conservatives outnumber liberals. YOU prove it."

He's already done that.

"3) It's YOUR claim that conservatives outnumber liberals. YOU prove it."

He's already done that.


----

What's the count then of conservatives vs liberal posters?

He's already done that.

Posted by nullifidian


The only thing that Bob's been proven is that Liberals are lazy, and alway's expect Conservatives to support them.

"Here are more who I believe consider themselves liberal:
...

Zatoichi ... "

Posted by CalifChris

What part of the fact that you have the IQ of lint makes me a liberal? It's been down hill since Ike. I miss Goldwater; And Curtis LeMay.

"What's the count then of conservatives vs liberal posters?"

Nothing preventing you from counting.

"The only thing that Bob's been proven is that Liberals are lazy, and alway's expect Conservatives to support them."

The lazy ones are the conservatives who whine about this but are too lazy to create their own list.

1. Wisgod 2.Rob the A Hole 3.Ride On 4. Rightisright 5. Nanc 6. Farmer John 7. OzarkAggie 8. Grendel 9. Murphy 10. Kris P Bacon 11. Litlebritdifrnt 12. Oohrah 13. Kuma 14. Salamandagator 15 Walt 16. Sniper 17. Joe 18. AndreaMackris 19. Spielmannsfluch 20. Pragmatus 21. Pinche Mao 22. Jeff J 23. Petrous 24. Crispee OC 25. kerrin57 26. Newjasman 27. TakeitEZ 28. Everlong 29. Bushlovertwo 30 Jestgettinalong 31. Pirate 32. Goatman 33. KBM 34. Legio 35. 08R4EVER 36. JonRyker 37. Sickolibs 38. Boaz 39. JoeLabey 40. JMJF 41. HagbardCeline 42. KWRX25 43. SE4NY6969 44. Cookfish 45. 101Chairborne 46. Johnson 47.Crackpipejunkie 48. MSGT 49. Jacque Strap 50. retnluvnit 51. Califchris 52. Armyof1 53. MikeWarrior 54. Moomanfl 55. Ray 56. Jsprague 57. 2112 58. Member 59. RightoCenter 60. Zatoichi

Nullidiot -

Nobody is being prevented from creating a list of the left. Do it yourself or stop whining.

I already did earlier. Can't you read? I just jotted these names down off the top of my head. If you can count higher than 15 -- the number of names already down on the "liberal" list -- you can take over the counting job from this point on. I've got other things to do.

Danni
Spud
Nullifidian
Truthhurts
ManyPaths
Moder8
Herm
Hans
Yomama
Moneywar
Zatoichi
Redneckville
SilverIronist
Yav
Zot

Posted by CalifChris at 2008-04-09 03:33 PM


Nothing preventing you from counting.

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I'm not the one making the claim. Bob is. Burden of proof is on him.

60. Zatoichi

Hah! Proves my point that this thread is totally inaccurate.
I had Zat down on the "liberal" list.

"I already did earlier. Can't you read?"

I saw your list. So what? That list proves that conservatives outnumber liberals, which is Bob's point.

The lazy ones are the conservatives who whine about this but are too lazy to create their own list.

----

Um, Bob started this thread. He's the one whining.

I took a count and there are 12389034 liberals who have posted to 324 conservatives.

"I'm not the one making the claim. Bob is. Burden of proof is on him."

He has met the burden of proof. No one else can come up with a list of the left that comes close.

The lazy ones are the conservatives who whine about this but are too lazy to create their own list.

Posted by nullifidian

Eh, the author of this thread is.....who?
I personally, don't care. One Liberal is too many. :)

I took a count and there are 12389034 liberals who have posted to 324 conservatives.

Posted by Pirate

I've checked Pirate's results and concur. Tag, Bob's it.

It's YOUR claim that conservatives outnumber liberals. YOU prove it."

He's already done that.


???

I love the way people on this site treat numbers and statistics.

You are assuming the ones that didn't answer are conservative. I am assuming that the ones who didn't answer are liberal.

Therefore, the liberals outnumber the conservatives.

Or perhaps the liberals don't want to answer because they know that it goes without saying this is a liberal site

Or maybe they don't want to answer because they want to skew the numbers and make it look like a conservative site.

IOW, This is hardly a scientific poll.

Besides, is it the number of posters or the number of posts that determine if the site is liberal or conservative? What if there was one liberal poster who posted 99 posts a day and 99 conservative posters who between them posted only one or two a day. I would say it was a liberal site in spite of the majority of conservatives.

Again, I love the way people twist numbers and statistics. I highly recommend a book called Innumeracy. Innumeracy is to math what illiteracy is to the written word. It is very enlighening and explains how stats are skewed and twisted. This "poll" is a perfect example. The author of this book would have a field day tearing it to shreds.

btw, good thread topic, bob

He has met the burden of proof. No one else can come up with a list of the left that comes close.

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Wrong. It's 12389034 liberals to 324 conservatives.

"Eh, the author of this thread is.....who? "

And if someone can refute Bob's list they are free to come up with their own list. Until then, Bob's point stands.

I've checked Pirate's results and concur.

----

That's it then. Results confirmed. Case closed.

"I took a count and there are 12389034"


you forgot to carry the one

Liberals outweigh conservatives on this website. I've already proved it with my numbers, which have been confirmed.

"Wrong. It's 12389034 liberals to 324 conservatives."

In other words, you're too lazy to come up with your own list, or you know you can't refute Bob's point.

Can you count? Start your list and others can cut and paste and add to it.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-04-09 02:42 PM


Another error in the poll. bob is determining who is conservative. I look at his list and I see several that are liberal. This makes it an opinion poll, not a factual one. Nothing wrong with opinion polls, but you can't take those numbers and say, "see, this site is conservative because I said so". It doesn't work that way.

Neither-Just a Keith-and glad of it.

I have grossly simplified way of separating liberal from conservative:
You are not a "liberal" if you voted for GWB in 2000 or 2004.

Obviously this type of categorization may be inaccurate as to certain individuals, but overall it gives a fairly good picture.

That's it then. Results confirmed. Case closed.

Posted by Pirate

Well done Pirate! Another complete liberal ass kicking completed. Stick with smoke stacks on the moon next time Bob.

Danni
Spud
Nullifidian
Truthhurts
ManyPaths
Moder8
Herm
Hans
Yomama
Moneywar
Zatoichi
Redneckville
SilverIronist
Yav
Zot

MORE---
Betelg
Boyd
Cooper
Ray
Denise
Lisa
Trees
Rev Darko
Bill O'Reilly (or is that Null?)
AU

25 total..

And IMHO most folks are moderate--there are few "flaming liberals and conservatives" on this site as a general rule.

And some folks cross over--depending on the issue.

It seems about even.

Murphy

In other words, you're too lazy to come up with your own list, or you know you can't refute Bob's point.

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-04-09 04:10 PM


If I come up with my own list, I am expressing my opinion. If bob comes up with his list he is expressing his opinion. What does this prove?

A: Nothing.

Murphy, if you're going to keep track, don't forget about the 35 different names Boyd posts under.

In other words, you're too lazy to come up with your own list, or you know you can't refute Bob's point.

----

I've already come with a list. You have to come up with a list to refute my list. Get to work...

...or are you too lazy?

bob's list is wrong. I am not a conservative.

26 with Bob--

since most of the conservative names will inevitably be multiple handles for the same poster, the numbers will likely become skewed.

and it amazing how all the idiots are on the conservative list

At least Murphy has the balls to create a list, unlike some other lazy conservatives on this site.

Damn it WIS...your #1. No gloating!

Perhaps we should have some color on the site. Your handle could be "red" or "blue". That would make it easier. Libertarians would be transparent, like their politics.

dont forget larry mohr and tonyroma

Goat --

Guess BBob at least got the title of his other thread right today (grin)

"Goatman Sees No Smokestack on Moon"

How about you? Are your eyes lying to you again, or can you successfully ignore reality too?

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 02:38 PM | 12 COMMENTS | permalink | Comment on This Entry

Wow. Proof positive that absolutely ANY topic can degenerate into acrimony on the good ol' DR.

He has met the burden of proof. No one else can come up with a list of the left that comes close

He has proven nothing but his opinion. E.G. he has me on the conservative list, but I am not

"Bill O'Reilly (or is that Null?)"

You're counting me twice, Murphy. Also, Boyd/Betel/Cooper are one poster. Better adjust your count down by at least 4.

"and it amazing how all the idiots are on the conservative list"



and how many morons believe bob's list mean shit.

no he smells like #1, tries to blame it on the cheese

dont forget zed

Wow. Proof positive that absolutely ANY topic can degenerate
into acrimony on the good ol' DR.


That's why DR will go on forever and ever :)

Guess BBob at least got the title of his other thread right today (grin)

Goatman Sees No Smokestack on Moon


Yes, it's true, but it's only a partial truth, of course. It would have been more accurate to have titled it "No one sees smokestacks on the moon except bob"

If I come up with my own list, I am expressing my opinion. If bob comes up with his list he is expressing his opinion. What does this prove?

A: Nothing.

Posted by goatman at 2008-04-09 04:12 PM


DING!DING!DING!

"Yes, it's true, but it's only a partial truth, of course. It would have been more accurate to have titled it 'No one sees smokestacks on the moon except bob'"

Well duh, Goat. It should be obvious to anyone with a brain that they are grain silos.

skizziks
r8h8r
the nether
northguy
jeffndenmark

"and how many morons believe bob's list mean shit.

Posted by salamandagator"


It's a fairly accurate enumeration of the right-of-center posters on this site. Obviously there are going to be a few that dispute their inclusion, just as there would be a few that would dispute their inclusion on a left-of-center list.

It's a fairly accurate enumeration of the right-of-center posters on this site

In the opinion of a liberal. How about in the opinion of an unbiased person?

1. jomama, 2. danni, 3. larry, 4. dethspud, 5. rcade, 6. revdarko, 7. manypaths, 8. beekeeper, 9. muzziah, 10. corky, 11. ness, 12. r8, 13. midiman, 14. reinheitsgebot, 15. panchovilla, 16. sambarber, 17. frankf55, 18. klifferd, 19. americanunity, 20. keith204, 21. oldwhiskeysour, 22. sitdown, 23. montecore, 24. timbci, 25. commonsense, 26. usatrueandblue7, 27. john kavanaugh, 28. donnerboy, 29. sully, 30. anticadillac, 31. silence, 32. generico, 33. gal tuesday, 34. georgeisadrunk, 35. redneckville, 36. yav, 37. 726, 38. ozarkannie, 39. herm, 40. angrydad, 41. moneywar, 42. herm, 43. northguy3, 44. truthhurts, 45. yomelib, 46. silence, 47. danforth, 48. sanantoniorogue, 49. ignoramus, 50. rastacyborg, 51. furio, 52. regime change, 53. skip wellington, 54. apocalypto, 55. mcduff, 56. lipzoidal, 57. darthcheney...

i'll be bock...

"How about in the opinion of an unbiased person?"

Tadowe doesn't post here anymore.

commonsense
shotguncheney
alexandrite
nessgadol

Can we start a list of crazies?

Red
Celisary
Nutcase

how bout a list of assholes

rob the asshole
101 chairborne asshole
crispee assholeC
shirtsbyasshole

"How about in the opinion of an unbiased person?"

An unbiased person would say that most of those on Bob's list are, in fact, right of center.

how bout a list of assholes

rob the asshole
101 chairborne asshole
crispee assholeC
shirtsbyasshole

Posted by truthhurts at 2008-04-09 04:39 PM |

Seeing as everyone knows where your head is most of the time, I will adhere to your expertise in regards to assholes. Good job.

"How about in the opinion of an unbiased person?"

Tadowe doesn't post here anymore.

Posted by SanAntonioRogue at 2008-04-09 04:32 PM


ff !

I miss Tadowe, though. Wish he'd start posting again.

coming from some with PEE in their handle, i am sooooooo hurt

Well at least Nanc wasn't too lazy to take up the challenge, unlike the other conservative whiners around here.

"
An unbiased person would say that most of those on Bob's list are, in fact, right of center."




Define center there buddy.

Can we start a list of crazies?

redneckville, buffalo_bob, cooper/badweek/betel (definitely schizophrenic!)

crazies

forgot Ray


Well at least Nanc wasn't too lazy to take up the challenge, unlike the other conservative whiners around here.

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-04-09 04:43 PM


Nullidiot, I put up the first 15 names on the list.

coming from some with PEE in their handle, i am sooooooo hurt

Posted by truthhurts at 2008-04-09 04:42 PM |


I see you have graduated to eigth grade level. A step up???

"Nullidiot, I put up the first 15 names on the list."

So what? You want a medal?

crazies

forgot Ray


Crazy like a fox.

Gold is over $1000 an ounce. He's laughing all the way to the bank.

An unbiased person would say that most of those on Bob's list are, in fact, right of center.

Again, says a liberal.

One must be truly unbiased to make such a claim. You are not. You lean to the left

So what? You want a medal?

That will do for a start. I'll provide the rest of my list later.

coming from some with PEE in their handle, i am sooooooo hurt

Posted by truthhurts at 2008-04-09 04:42 PM |


I see you have graduated to eigth grade level. A step up???

Posted by crispee_oc at 2008-04-09 04:47 PM |



you started it.

Well at least Nanc wasn't too lazy to take up the challenge, unlike the other conservative whiners around here.

----

You can't say X > Y without knowing both values. It's not up to somebody else to determine one of those values. It's up to person making the claim to provide the values because they have to know the values in order to say one is greater than the other.

So what? You want a medal?

That will do for a start. I'll provide the rest of my list later.



Posted by CalifChris


you'll need a chest to pin it on.

All those on Nanc's list are the same guy.

'Cept fer me and Nulli. We are Peabody Award winners!

But seriously folks, as someone originally hated by the right for not bowing and scraping before their Dear Leader and now hated by the left for not swallowing the Obamiade, I can tell you that while it is true that the right is typically denser, the left whines more when you pinch it.

I see you have graduated to eigth grade level. A step up???

Posted by crispee_oc at 2008-04-09 04:47 PM |



you started it.

Posted by truthhurts at 2008-04-09 04:50 PM |


You mother wears army boots.

Crazy like a fox.


Gold is over $1000 an ounce. He's laughing all the way to the bank.


Not according to ray. He is hoarding it. Doesn't matter what the price is if you don't cash it in.

I once had several tens of thousands of dollars of Worldcom stock.

*sigh*

I see you have graduated to eigth grade level. A step up???

Posted by crispee_oc at 2008-04-09 04:47 PM |



you started it.

Posted by truthhurts at 2008-04-09 04:50 PM |


You mother wears army boots.

Posted by crispee_oc at



Your father refills cream donuts

Your father refills cream donuts

Posted by truthhurts at 2008-04-09 04:54 PM


At least I had a father.

"and how many believe bob's list mean shit."
Posted by salamandagator at 2008-04-09 04:18 PM


YEAH!

I think it says allot!

It says to me that The Retort, unlike redstate, green footballs, seanhannity, culture watch, Christian coalition and all the other supposed "conservative" opinion sites that ban you for breathing something unflattering, (even when true) is truly a free place to post any opinion ----- and as exploited repeatedly by some here, even allows those with no tact or manners to insult and attack the host himself (apparently a "Value" some hold close)!

And I should add, I feel quite comfortable and in good company by being attached to the list of what I perceive as the Freedom and Democracy for ALL Champions in this online community!

Therefore I propose we change the nomenclature from "Liberal" to Liberty and Freedom Champions ---------- and "conservative" to Lying Douchebag Authoritarians with No Manners and little Self-Esteem!

"One must be truly unbiased to make such a claim. You are not. You lean to the left"

I'm aware of my biases. That being said, Bob's list is a pretty accurate enumeration of right-of-center posters here. Just because one or two posters don't think they belong there doesn't invalidate the list.

"We are Peabody Award winners!"

More like his boy Sherman in your case.

you'll need a chest to pin it on.

Posted by truthhurts at 2008-04-09 04:51 PM


My chest is more than ample, thank you.

Your sister swims out to meet troopships
The troopship rejected your sister
sister blows dogs for nickels
Your mother does powersquats on fireplugs
Your grandmother gives gummers to plumbers
Your mother doesn't wipe, she drip dries
Your sister sticks to the couch
Your grandpa licks moose cum off branches
Your dog has a big bloddy asshole
Your brother eats corn out of feces
Your father was a cucumber
Your mother gives handjobs to pilots
Your grandmother freefalls on flagpoles
Your father's in love with a toaster

Your sister swims out to meet troopships
The troopship rejected your sister
sister blows dogs for nickels
Your mother does powersquats on fireplugs
Your grandmother gives gummers to plumbers
Your mother doesn't wipe, she drip dries
Your sister sticks to the couch
Your grandpa licks moose cum off branches
Your dog has a big bloddy asshole
Your brother eats corn out of feces
Your father was a cucumber
Your mother gives handjobs to pilots
Your grandmother freefalls on flagpoles
Your father's in love with a toaster

I have been told that Libs far outnumber rightwing nutjobs on this site. Let's count and see.



Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 12:20 PM

Maybe it should be re-phrased to read leftwing whining liberals far outnumber...

Truth,
I see you regressed back to 6th grade. Say what you will about my family, just don't insult my dog.

Your sister gives blowjobs to statues.

Your mother does cartwheels on doorknobs.

Your father's in love with a bagel.

Your sister's in love with a carrot.

The carrot rejected your sister.

Your mother's best friend is a fence post.

Your father likes small, furry animals.

Your father fucks Butterball turkeys.

Your brother's class ring's in your sister.

ok, thank you everyone! I will be back here later tonight, please buy a CD!

rat tat ta do do

good night and drive safe

"I think it says allot!"


or maybe it point out the complete lack, of some when it come to reason or logic. Not to insult you or anything i think you do quite fine in that by yourself.

as someone originally hated by the right for not bowing and scraping before their Dear Leader and now hated by the left for not swallowing the Obamiade,
Posted by Corky at 2008-04-09 04:52 PM

Whoa...hate is a strong word. I think you are way overstating your value as an irritant .

Nuh-uh!

I am a very valuable irritant I'll have you know!
Hated by many, loved by few...... can you tell how much this hurts me?

Whoa...hate is a strong word. I think you are way overstating your value as an irritant .

Yeah. Don't sell yourself short, you are a tremendous slouch.

Nanc

Let's make the list of posters who have posted in the last week, and you have to be able to post a link to their liberal/conservative rant.

I never heard of half your posters, and can only assume you either made them up or they are old old posters. I haven't put Tadowe on my list.

Also, OzarkAnnie would be pissed if you put her on your list. She's already on mine.

I wanna recount.



Bob

This is Not a Liberal Site

Considering the amount of bitching and moaning going on over it, I BEG TO DIFFER!!!!

Bob says make a list. A list is made. Bob complains about said list.

Any surprise?

Bob says make a list. A list is made. Bob complains about said list.

Any surprise?


Slightly. Where's the link to Youtube?

FF

Hated by many, loved by few......
Posted by Corky

Hillary and her daughter, Ms. Needs a Makeover is two, who's the third?

"Therefore I propose we change the nomenclature from "Liberal" to Liberty and Freedom Champions ---------- and "conservative" to Lying Douchebag Authoritarians with No Manners and little Self-Esteem!"

Redneck could we shorten "Lying Douchebag Authoritarians with No Manners and little Self-Esteem!" to just LDAs???

It would be like O'rielly's SPs.

TRUTH-
I'm amazed at how well you know my family. Are you my daddy?

Posted by OohRah


no that would be John er a John

"and er-ah when I returned, Mary Joe and the cah where gone"

My facts must be getting to Nancy. She has me in there twice. Mighty far down on the list, I might add. herm

"This is Not a Liberal Site" Considering the amount of bitching and moaning going on over it, I BEG TO DIFFER!!!!

This just in to refute Manypaths: A content analysis by an unimpeachable source (everyone in the Bush years is unimpeachable) reveals 78.3 percent of all DR bitching and moaning is by righties incensed over their tax bucks going to such radical innovations as social security and the post office. That does not even include those wailing about terminated pregnancies "killing innocent babies." herm

ive been a fan of this site for years, i remember danni and a person named tansurfergirl talking wierd one night, this is a nice place to go to get some prospective at times

wow over 8500 members here

What a weenie - I didn't make either list.

bluffalo - i went into the archives and ALL the posters i mentioned were within comments made in the last three weeks, but i'll go back farther if you'd like?

AH-OH!

we're taking over!

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahah
aha!

that's okay - all'y'all libs still scream the loudest and use the foulest of language - WOOT!

Nanc

I just went through todays, and said let's go back a week. I'll be asking for your links to the posters that I think you made up, so keep them handy.

Do yuou want to go back three weeks? One week? I htink One week would be plenty to prove my point if you had to go back three weeks to get your names and I really went through about five threads on todays posting.

You make the rules you think you can live with.

I say one week and have reliable links to the poster when asked.

Make it shorter or longer as you wish. The point will still stand.

Can you prove your statement that libs use the foulest language?

;-)

Actually 2-3 days would be the most current and easy to reference.

There are lots of "tests" on the net which "identify" a person's political leanings. If you want a real count, suggest a test, ask people to take it, see what they say they are, count them. No, wait, this is the DR ...

"I have grossly simplified way of separating liberal from conservative:
You are not a "liberal" if you voted for GWB in 2000 or 2004."

But that suggests that all those who didn't are liberals. However, I'd guess that those of us who voted neither repub nor dem would prefer to be in neither category.

easy, bluffalo - i went to the search engine in the mid-left section, put in the foulest word i could get my fingers to type and it brought up ALL the posts where that word could be found. then i went to those particular posts and scanned them.

even YOU can do it, bob!

Nanc

Let's make the list of posters who have posted in the last week, and you have to be able to post a link to their liberal/conservative rant.

Can you prove your statement that libs use the foulest language?

;-)

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-04-09 06:48 PM



"And after that I want you to prove...." says BuffaloBob

as another one falls into his web...

"Dance, dance" said the Puppetmaster.
Dance, dance for me, hee hee hee"

:)

there's one party cooler word you can type in that i've been called at least 10 times in the last month and i'll bet you can easily find that one, yes?

then, go to my posts and see just how many times i've called another poster a vile name.

he likes when i talk mean to him...

Fyi

If you aren't a liberal, you are a conservative as far as I'm concerned. If you aren't for us you are against us--does that make sense to you? I bet it does.


1. Wisgod 2.Rob the A Hole 3.Ride On 4. Rightisright 5. Nanc 6. Farmer John 7. OzarkAggie 8. Grendel 9. Murphy 10. Kris P Bacon 11. Litlebritdifrnt 12. Oohrah 13. Kuma 14. Salamandagator 15 Walt 16. Sniper 17. Joe 18. AndreaMackris 19. Spielmannsfluch 20. Pragmatus 21. Pinche Mao 22. Jeff J 23. Petrous 24. Crispee OC 25. kerrin57 26. Newjasman 27. TakeitEZ 28. Everlong 29. Bushlovertwo 30 Jestgettinalong 31. Pirate 32. Goatman 33. KBM 34. Legio 35. 08R4EVER 36. JonRyker 37. Sickolibs 38. Boaz 39. JoeLabey 40. JMJF 41. HagbardCeline 42. KWRX25 43. SE4NY6969 44. Cookfish 45. 101Chairborne 46. Johnson 47.Crackpipejunkie 48. MSGT 49. Jacque Strap 50. retnluvnit 51. Califchris 52. Armyof1 53. MikeWarrior 54. Moomanfl 55. Ray 56. Jsprague 57. 2112 58. Member 59. RightoCenter 60. Zatoichi 61. FYI


"he likes when i talk mean to him..."



he usually has to pay for that.

"If you aren't a liberal, you are a conservative"

How pathetically stupid; Just like Limbaugh and Coulter.

Hint: The space is not two-dimensional; It is in fact Hilbert space.

Califchris

I'm not saying anyone has to do anything. But if you want to play in the game you gotta know the rules so everyone is on the same page.

If you don't want to play the game or play by the rules---notice I let Nanc set the rules as to time to search--then don't play.

Simple isn't it.


So far There are a lot more cons than libs on this site as far as recent posts go. Nanc went back three weeks to find her list, and then had some definite conservatives on it like Ozarkaggie. I went to 5 threads on todays threads. Does that tell you anything?

Hint: LOTS more cons than libs

;-)

I gotta agree, people shouldn't be calling others vile names. Much more interesting is to say things like:

"Takes poster 2 hours to watch '60-minutes'"

"If poster were any more stupid, he'd/she'd have to be watered twice a week."

"When poster's IQ reaches 50, he/she should sell."

"Some drink from the fountain of knowledge; he only gargled."

Banal, yes. But I leave it up to the ingenuity of the regulars for better.

[bluffalo] likes when i talk mean to him...

Posted by nanc at 2008-04-09 07:02 PM



Then softly whisper in BBob's ear "Goatman is right about everything."
That'll get the Buffalo's engine roaring :)

"If you aren't a liberal, you are a conservative"

How pathetically stupid; Just like Limbaugh and Coulter.

Posted by Zatoichi at 2008-04-09 07:11 PM


Or your point of view. Which is what? Oh yeah---you never say anything. You should try to say it with less words.

;-)

I consider myself a moderate but would assume that NeoCons will call me liberal anyway.

Califchris

If you don't want to play the game or play by the rules...then don't play.

Simple isn't it.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob


aww, kiss kiss

"You should try to say it with less(sic) words."


When you use as few as necessary?

(BTW I'm betting no one gets the joke.)

BuffaloB,

Yeah, I'm sure it makes sense to you. To me the "for us or against us" is medieval. And isn't that what we're supposed to be growing up from?

ZAT

BBob said to you...

...you never say anything.

Well, that's about as saying something with "less words" as one can get.

I got it.

Hint: The space is not two-dimensional; It is in fact Hilbert space.

Don't ya hate it when folks try to put your complexities in a single
Box?

Be Well.

BuffaloB,

Wow, you put me on the con list! Gotta cut this out and show my friends! It is a bummer, though. I took all those net "tests" and they all said otherwise. Guess they need to be replaced by the BB test.

I get the point you're trying to make with this thread. But you're beating a dead horse and it's just funny.

No he is beating OFF to a dead horse.
Big difference.

"I got it."

Posted by CalifChris

Must have been the homework problems in second-order time-dependent perturbation theory in grad school; Then this cat showed up to check my math.

i179.photobucket.com

Best book: Vonnegut: The Cat Who Walked Through Walls.

"If you aren't a liberal, you are a conservative as far as I'm concerned."


You ask us to go with your definition of a lib and a con but you even think corporate power is i a sigh of communism. I for one refuse your judgment. so neener neener neener

We're all here because we're not all there.


It's a South Austin joke.
It's a quantum mechanics joke.
It's a psychology joke.
It's a fact.

FYI

1. Wisgod 2.Rob the A Hole 3.Ride On 4. Rightisright 5. Nanc 6. Farmer John 7. OzarkAggie 8. Grendel 9. Murphy 10. Kris P Bacon 11. Litlebritdifrnt 12. Oohrah 13. Kuma 14. Salamandagator 15 Walt 16. Sniper 17. Joe 18. AndreaMackris 19. Spielmannsfluch 20. Pragmatus 21. Pinche Mao 22. Jeff J 23. Petrous 24. Crispee OC 25. kerrin57 26. Newjasman 27. TakeitEZ 28. Everlong 29. Bushlovertwo 30 Jestgettinalong 31. Pirate 32. Goatman 33. KBM 34. Legio 35. 08R4EVER 36. JonRyker 37. Sickolibs 38. Boaz 39. JoeLabey 40. JMJF 41. HagbardCeline 42. KWRX25 43. SE4NY6969 44. Cookfish 45. 101Chairborne 46. Johnson 47.Crackpipejunkie 48. MSGT 49. Jacque Strap 50. retnluvnit 51. Califchris 52. Armyof1 53. MikeWarrior 54. Moomanfl 55. Ray 56. Jsprague 57. 2112 58. Member 59. RightoCenter 60. Zatoichi

My mistake. I should have read more than just one post. Sorry.


My list contains well known names posting today. The list Nanc had was half gull of people I never heard of and she had to go back three weeks to get that many names and even then she had well known conservatives on her list.

I think the point is made. There are far more Conservatives posting on this site than Liberals.

"60. Zatoichi"

I'll be 59 December 7.

Alas Shintaro Katsu
www.henshinonline.com and Toshiro Mifune www.pk.emb-japan.go.jp are dead.

You ask us to go with your definition of a lib and a con but you even think corporate power is i a sigh of communism. I for one refuse your judgment. so neener neener neener

Posted by salamandagator at 2008-04-09 07:43 PM |


Only you say I say corporate power is a sign of Communism. I never say that. I say corporate power is a sign of fascism.

However, continue with your lies. As Bush has taught you, soon lots of peope will believe you and trust you.

"I think the point is made. There are far more Conservatives posting on this site than Liberals."


You could make the same argument that your list contains only ball point pens or fish sticks it would have as much validity. Just because you say it doesn't make it true. But go ahead define people your way whatever appeases those damned voices.

We're all here because we're not all there.

It's a South Austin joke.
It's a quantum mechanics joke.
It's a psychology joke.
It's a fact.


Cos no matter where you go... there you are.

Luff that picture of Max.

Best book: Vonnegut: The Cat Who Walked Through Walls.

Actually, that's Robert Heinlein.

Vonnegut did Cat's Cradle.

Spud read 'em both and luffs 'em!

Back on Topic?

The fact that Rcade tolerates the type of 3rd grade mentality trolls who can't debate to save their own lives anmd who would prolly get kicked out of every other site in blog-world would seem, to Spud at least, to be proof positive that this is a very liberal site, indeed.

Hell, even the right wing trolls (which is pretty much all of them) couldn't cut it on Free Republic fer fark's sakes!

Too many parts of blog-world have agendas or at the very least standards and this place is largely free of such interferences.

The fact that a shiatload of right wing troll would, over time, gravitate to this place seems practically inevitable in hindsight.

But to cut people out of public debate simply because their information base is horribly flawed or practically non-existent is wrong. Too many people think, argue and hold crazy assed stupid ideas like the idjits found here at the Retort and it doesn't do to banish them all to non-existence in blogworld.

They must be tutored in the ways of righteousness.

That's why dethspud is here, btw.

/In case anybody was still wondering.

Be Well.

"Only you say I say corporate power is a sign of Communism. I never say that. I say corporate power is a sign of fascism."


tell you what i'll prove it, but then i want an apology.

Deal?

Mr Fair is right of center--you forgot one Bob.

It's about even.

Null--FF--I thought Boyd Betelg and Cooper were the same!

Murphy

"

Best book: Vonnegut: The Cat Who Walked Through Walls.

Actually, that's Robert Heinlein.

"

I am so busted.

Little did we know then! No one could have imagined at the time that the Republican Party would evolve into the new Communists of the 21st century!

Posted by Redneckville

How did you make that connection?

Posted by Sniper at 2008-04-01 05:03 PM | Reply | Flag:



I'm not sure how he made the connection, but here is how I make the connection.

When your phone can be tapped at government discretion--that's a connection.

When you can be thrown in prison without a trial or counsel forever, that's a connection.

When you start wars with countries that are no threat to you, that's a connection.

When you keep secrets from the public about a major attack on our nation, that's a connection.

When government is more interested in twisting elections than finding out the will of the people, that's a connection.

When government places the interests of big business over the welfare of the populace, that's a connection.

When a President thinks he can decide which laws he will follow and which laws he doesn't, that's a connection.

There are more, but I'm sure their mention would be as meaningless to you as the ones already stated.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-04-01 05:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

So now apologize and tell me you misspoke.

BuffaloB,

Thanks both ways. Especially since I've copied it. My friends always like having something to laugh at re me, so I gotta keep them supplied. Amazingly enough, you got my age almost right.

For years on this site, I have spoken out extensively in favor of abortion, in favor of gay marriage, against the Iraq war, against corporate welfare, in favor of legalizing drugs, and for many other topics that would be considered "liberal." If buffalo bob is too stupid to find those posts, that does not mean that I belong on his list. All it means is that his incessant need to classify people is misguided and obnoxious.

Of course, if you want pictures through walls ...

Do check the next issue of Archaeology.

"Muon Archaeology

By analyzing the trajectory of high-energy particles, known as muons, archaeologists hope to create images of the interior of pyramids in Belize and Mexico."

www.archaeology.org

"Cos no matter where you go... there you are."

Not according to quantum physics. You can only be one of the two! Unless they've opened the box and you're a dead cat.

"They must be tutored in the ways of righteousness."

Thank you, grasshopper.

"Luff that picture of Max."

My wife took this one:

i179.photobucket.com

Max: A once-in-a-lifetime experience.

C'mon, Joe, it's libertarians like you who ruin all the good games!

If you aren't a liberal, you are a conservative as far as I'm concerned.

Figures. The word "moderate" is not in the bOoB's vocabulary. Nor is the word "gray". Everything is black or white, left or right.

What a sorry world you live in, bOoB. Diversity is what makes this planet great. I would hate it if I lived in a binary world like you.

Simple isn't it.

You say that a lot. I wonder why your mind comes up with the word "simple" so easily?

Wow, you put me on the con list! Gotta cut this out and show my friends!

I did the same here on the rig. I printed out and took the list to dinner. Of course they don't know the others, but I am known as Goatman on the rig, so they knew me. Several guys about choked they laughed so hard. Seriously, I am one of the "bleeding heart liberals" of the rig in their eyes.

Goatman-
You don't hang with the enlisted, but with the invested, I'm guessin'.

I think the point is made. There are far more Conservatives posting on this site than Liberals

HA HA HA! You lose, bOoB! The cons are took over! The strong survive. Must've been Roe v Wade aborting their own.

Actually, that's Robert Heinlein

Beat me to it. Good catch

Vonnegut did Cat's Cradle.

Which is indeed Vonnegut's best book -- well tied with Sirens of Titan

Have you read Mother Night?

"You can only be one of the two!"

Flunking out of physics must have hurt.

Kill yourself soon and do not reproduce.

I know what you mean, Joe. I've always said the following:

don't like bush
don't believe in war in iraq
believe in gay rights
don't believe in corporate welfare
don't believe in prayer in school
I'm an atheist
against capital punishment
against war on drugs
pro choice (1st trimester)
I compost, recycle, conserve energy
Have voted Democrat far, far more than I have republican (except for president)

And the bOoB thinks I'm a conservative. It is these qualities why my co-workers say I'm a bleeding heart liberal.

But then again, the bOoB sees smokestacks on the moon. What do you expect from that kind of a mind?

Libertarian, atheist, Pistons fan.

The dumbest fucks of all list:

SpudDud(tm)
NULLandVOID
FrankFreak55(tm)
Redneckville

THESE ARE THE FACTS

You don't hang with the enlisted, but with the invested, I'm guessin'.

What does this mean? I was an enlisted man once, if that's what you are referring to.

P.S. BuffaloBobShit(tm) is mercifully excluded from the "dumbest fucks of all" list. He's simply an occupant at the looney bin.

Have you read Mother Night?

I've read every book Vonnegut wrote

I'm an atheist
...
...
...Posted by goatman at 2008-04-09 08:


I thought it was agreed upon you were an agnostic, not an atheist?

The dumbest fucks of all list:

...
...
THESE ARE THE FACTS

Posted by ride_on at 2008-04-09 08:43 PM


Hah! you never disappoint me.
I knew you'd find your own special category for some on the list if we only gave you enough time.

BBob

Why is your list only one side or the other?
Why can't we have a "moderate" list for those whose thinking lies more in the middle?

I thought it was agreed upon you were an agnostic, not an atheist?

I didn't agree to it, you did. *G*

Libertarian, atheist, Austrian economics, anti-authoritarian

Why is your list only one side or the other?
Why can't we have a "moderate" list for those whose thinking lies more in the middle?


the bOoB's brain isn't big enough to handle more than two concepts.

what, bluffalo - no retort?

Mother Night is his best.

Of course, if you want pictures through walls ...

Do check the next issue of Archaeology.

"Muon Archaeology

By analyzing the trajectory of high-energy particles, known as muons, archaeologists hope to create images of the interior of pyramids in Belize and Mexico."


~Zat

We've actually chatted about the process on previous threads. Spud looks forward to the article.

Speaking of articles on imaging (nice segue, thinks Spud) Did you happen to catch Spud's thread on ESRF?

www.drudge.com

The European Synchrotron Radiation Facility (ESRF) in Grenoble, France, produces an intense, high-energy light that can pierce just about any material, revealing its inner structure.

EUROPEAN LIGHT SOURCE

Electrons are fired into a linac, or straight accelerator. They're boosted in a small ring before entering the storage ring. The superfast particles are corralled by a train of magnets. Energy lost by turning electrons emerges as intense light (X-rays). The 850m-circumference ring has 32 magnet clusters, or cells. Electrons turned by plain magnets produce 'standard' X-rays. Particles 'wiggled' at undulator magnets emit stronger X-rays. X-rays can't turn with electrons and head straight down beamlines. Experiment 'hutches' receive the most intense X-rays in Europe. The light probes materials on the atomic and molecular scale. Robots can place many samples in the beam for rapid science. ESRF data leads to new materials, drugs, electronics, etc. Most of the organisms are minuscule. For example, one of the discovered mites measures just 0.8mm across. A fossil wasp is large by comparison at 4mm in length.


Spud found it interesting enuff to put up a thread on it that was ignored largely by all and sundry.

Bummer! Spud's Best. Headline. EVAR!

Be Well.

/Ta fer the greeneyed Max shot as well. Got it in me photobucket now! ^_^

hmmmm...goatman vs. bluffalo...goatman everytime!

I knew you'd find your own special category for some on the list if we only gave you enough time.

Posted by CalifChris at 2008-04-09 08:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

CC, I didn't need "enough time". I haven't been on this thread very long. The list I posted and its members is so obvious. FACTS ya' know.

P.S. It's not my special category. It's a DR FACT CATEGORY...hehehe.

I didn't agree to it, you did. *G*

Humf.

"Why can't we have a "moderate" list for those whose thinking lies more in the middle?"

Probably because it would be too short. And for once I'm being serious. Hell, I'm an independent but you'd have to push to make a case for labelling me a moderate. I'd back an independents list though. But it's not the Buffalo's point. He's obviously gone overboard in some cases, but all he's really trying to do is disprove a single statement, that this forum leans heavily towards liberals. And I agree that it doesn't. The lil' tater's comments notwithstanding.

"Libertarian, atheist, Austrian economics, anti-authoritarian"

Why are you stuttering?

NANC, whenever it's anyone on the DR vs. BuffaloBobShit(tm)....the BobShit ALWAYS loses (same in his "life" at the looney bin too).....

Mother Night v. Cat's Cradle?

Both are excellent works by KVjr but Spud still thinks that Player Piano is his best work.

Slaughterhouse 5 is definitely his best known and most influential work.

"Welocome to the Monkey House" should be required reading fer High Schoolers.

Slapstick and Breakfast of Champion are also Classics.

Ever catch Spud's RIP thread when Vonnegut died?

www.drudge.com

Be Well.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-04-09 07:08

BB thinks I'm a conservative as if this world is composed of liberals and conservatives and nothing else. I won't forget that degrading insult BB.

"Spud still thinks that Player Piano is his best work."

No way! Not even close, dude. Player Piano ranks along with Bluebeard and Galapagos: In Player Piano he hadn't yet found his voice, and in the latter two he was losing his voice.

The Buffalo obviously likes being argumentive. In doing so, he more than occasionally makes preposterous statements and takes some positions that leave me wondering. He has some wacky beliefs. But he also makes some very interesting and accurate points. And his toe-to-toes with the Goat are very humorous. Hell of a lot better than sticking your hand in a bucket of shit to find a dime, like you have to do with some posters here.

didn't agree to it, you did. *G*

Humf.

Posted by CalifChris at 2008-04-09


typo:

humf - humph

Ray,


I really enjoy those occurrences where you are accused of being a neocon (based upon your Laissez faire economic theories) and a far-left liberal (for your anti projection of US military might) on the same thread.

Wait - I am a "rabid" koolaid drinking Obama supporter, and now I am a righty tighty? Whut? In all honesty I am a republicrat, which I stated day one when I joined here.

JEFFJ, those that do that to Ray and others....the biggest offenders.....they are on the FACTUAL DR "dumbest fucks" list that I posted.

the FACTUAL DR

WTF?

WideOn you are the least factual poster on the DR.

Yer posts consist largely of insane insults and contain very little argument at all.
When you do try to argue you always FAIL.
You wouldn't know a fact if it kicked you in the teeth.

You are, in a word, insane.

Be Well.

Nobody would argue about the Most Worthless Trolls list:

1 - 10: RideOn

SpudDud(tm), you are on the OFFICIAL DR FACTUAL "dumbest fucks" list. But, relax....your fellow "dumbest fucks" can keep you company as always. Go back and check the list so you can commiserate with them.

See SpudDud(tm) one of your fellow "dumbest fucks" just joined you.....right on cue as normal.

You are, in a word, insane.
Posted by dethspud

How does it feel to post 1 part insult to 99 parts Canadian bullshit? BTW, is Jenney Craig from Canada?


Nobody would argue about the Most Worthless Trolls list:

1 - 10: RideOn

Posted by nullifidian



I happen to like Ride, but that was really, really funny.


(Sorry Ride)

....oh and SpudDud(tm), don't diss a fellow DR poster's deceased spouse or a poster about that ever again....and NULLandVOID, when you asked for my home address so you could show me "how lucky" I am that I'm stating posts only on a blog and not to you in person.....well, if you only knew....even you would then know you are dumber than dirt. I really apologize to dirt for that comment.

No problem JeffJ.....and it still flew in the face of NULLandVOID's "Nobody" comment. Not a surprise.

Bob - care to explain how the Obama campaign headquarters in my town is in my office? Yeah, didn't think so.

Ride
I would add Bushlover2 and Danni to the dumbest fucks list.

Jeff
Liberals for welfare, against warfare.
Conservatives against welfare, for warfare.
Libertarians against welfare and warfare.

At least I'm consistent with a small government. The dumbass liberals and conservatives think they can have one and not the other. That's impossible. What we get between the two rivals is warfare AND welfare.

"I happen to like Ride"

Why? He has never engaged in an argument as long as he's been here. Doesn't have the brains or the balls. He just endlessly repeats the one "joke" that somebody else came up with, i.e. attaching "(tm)" to some lame caricature of a poster's name.

Geeze, BBob, your topic must have struck a nerve.
It's only been up since around Noon and already you've got about 280 posts!

I hear your opinion Ray, but I wouldn't add those to the list. The list is made up of non debatable DR FACTS, dontcha' know. So it will remain 100% indisputable and stand as written.

At least I'm consistent with a small government.


Yes, very consistent.


My comment wasn't intended as a snipe toward you.
It was intended to mock those (on both sides of center) who attempt to pigeonhole someone with a label. You just happened to be both present, and a perfect "Exhibit A" of the occasional stupidity of labels.

"Libertarians against welfare and warfare."

Libertarians for robber barons and sweat shops.

Buzzer sound......wrong again NULLandVOID. I don't list (tm) on your name Billy'O'Crap'O (which the DR Left came up with) or to your NULLandVOID name which someone else came up with. Oh, I'd like to take credit for those but, I can't/won't as others so aptly named you.........

I nominate Nullified for the dumbest troll.

He owns it Ray. Nomination not required.

It's only been up since around Noon and already you've got about 280 posts!

Posted by CalifChris

It's a celebration on his first coherent thread posting since 2002.

i happen to like goatman and dethspud. call me a masochist!

bwah!

bluffalo is just a little tetchy for me...

Most Paranoid List:

1-10: Ray
11: JeffnDenmark

Lists made by people that are on the FACTUAL DR "dumbest fucks" list don't count for anything. They are meaningless.

SpudDud(tm) is a Masochist....NANC. He has to live with himself. You really don't want us to call him now, do ya'? Naw, you don't.

They are meaningless.

Posted by ride_on

Or Canadian.

How can anybody get paranoid over a dumb troll? They have the brains of a mouse and a squeak to match. Little pest maybe.

They are meaningless.

Posted by ride_on

Or Canadian.

Posted by wisgod at 2008-04-09 09:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

Good catch WisGod, as they are one and the same.....

Excellent!


A "Ray vs. Reilly" fight warming up!

Grab the popcorn and a coupla cool ones, fellas.

This one could be a doozy!

Corky is a con, lib, independent, etc.......














What is the answer.




















All of the above.

Right SYBIL? Please, go find yourself SYBIL.

A "Ray vs. Reilly" fight warming up!


Posted by JeffJ

Leave it to Bill to put a dollar in a 10 cent ass kicking machine.

"A "Ray vs. Reilly" fight warming up!"

Not today, Jeff. Ray is rather obsessed with me because I bash rightwing libertarians all the time. That's ok. The Internet has plenty of paranoid crackpots who believe in all kinds of weird shit, like Austrian economics, alternative-health snake oil, the "Electric Universe," the gold standard, etc.

In fact, the Internet is about the only place you can find these strange people. Which is good.

I've spent too much time with him, Jeff. It was fun for a while. But now he bores me. I'm done for the night.

Listen FACTUAL DR "dumbest fuck" list member......no one is obsessed with you. It is simply very easy to make fun of you, especially since you make it so easy with your constant idiocy. You are so stupid you don't even recognize it. But the FACTUAL DR "dumbest fuck" list is a testament to it. ROFLMAO.

I'm done for the night.

Good night, Ray.



Not today, Jeff.

That makes me sad. I remember a day on the DR in which I could goad the likes of Ray and Reilly into a cyber-fight. Apparently, this is no longer the case.


I've either lost my touch, or I just suck (have fun with THAT slow-curve, you bitches).

If you've moved from touch to suck....you could sell seminars.

Well, I for one would like to ackowledge Bob for providing another avenue for the hand full of Conservatives, who have given a beating to the liberals, the likes of which haven't been seen since 2004 when Bush made Kerry his bitch.

I've got the popcorn ready and my money's on Ray.


If you've moved from touch to suck....you could sell seminars.

Posted by ride_on



I'd force my wife to be my first customer.

Now that is a softball JeffJ.

Therefore, I won't post the obligatory DR response.....that no one here has EVER HAD TO FORCE HER.

my money's on Ray.


I don't know, Chris.


First off, Ray is getting up there in age.


Secondly, Reilly is a Marxist, which means he's an instinctive thug.

My money is on Reilly - he'd start with a swift kick to Ray's ball-sack, and then he'd go Stalin on him from there.

Ray loses the fight before he even starts it.

that no one here has EVER HAD TO FORCE HER.


Absolutely not!

She's very "hand's on" - she's always been fascinated by large objects.

Chinese worker calls boss and says, "I no be work today...very sick".

The boss knows better and guides Wong with these astute words, "Wong, whenever I feel sick, I go home and have sex with my wife. Then everything is better and I go happily back to work. You go try that."

"OK boss" says Wong.

A bit later Wong shows up to work. "Hey boss thank for advice, really do feel better now. Not sick. Thank you."





















"By way, you have nice house".

She's very "hand's on" - she's always been fascinated by large objects.

Posted by JeffJ at 2008-04-09 10:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

I already know that..........

My money is on Reilly - he'd start with a swift kick to Ray's ball-sack, and then he'd go Stalin on him from there.

Ray loses the fight before he even starts it.

Posted by JeffJ at 2008-04-09 10:21 PM | Reply | Flag: Flag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
e

I disagree entirely. I believe a swift kick to the balls of an older set of nuts wouldn't hurt as bad as say a mid 20's Year old set cause the older pair are flabby and more relaxed compared to the Younger set. Of course elderly have an advantage they can take their canes and do so much more damage than the younger set. Oh and if all else fails they can eject their false teeth and use them as throwing devices. Just a thought.

Larry Mohr

Sheesh, Larry you seem to know waaaaaaayyyyyyy too much about balls of various ages..............

Must have not taken care of an elderly guy before have You Ride On??

Larry Mohr

I have had some pretty lengthy debates with Ray, Jeff. Some of them over 100 posts over a couple of days between us. It's not for me to judge who "won" those debates. There are people here who debate, and then there are eunuchs like RideOn who don't have the balls or intellect to debate.

Must have not taken care of an elderly guy before have You Ride On??

Larry Mohr

Oh fuck, another feather in your hat.

I already know that..........


Keep that up (pun intended) and I'll invoke Frank Cotton on your ass!



Null,

I have had some pretty lengthy debates with Ray, Jeff. Some of them over 100 posts over a couple of days between us.

I know. I've personally witnessed (and enjoyed) a couple of them.

It's been awhile - aren't you two ideologue clowns overdue for another one?

THIS IS A LIBERAL SITE.....DRUDGE RETORT IS A RIP OFF FROM A RIGHT WING NEWS SITE

TRUST ME THEIR ARE FAR MORE LIBERALS ON THIS SITE THAN ON KOAs

Oh fuck, another feather in your hat.


Posted by wisgod at 2008-04-09 10:30 PM | Reply

Huh???

Larry

Must have not taken care of an elderly guy before have You Ride On??

Larry Mohr

Posted by LarryMohr at 2008-04-09 10:29 PM | Reply | Flag

Uhhhh, no Larry I haven't. In fact I've never "taken care of" any guy.

PS - I believe it's spelled "Eunichs"


I decided to go for the change-up....

Instead of going Drudge Nanny on you I thought I'd be the spelling Nazi instead.

I am more comfortable being a Nazi than a Nanny anyways - as you are certainly aware.

We're just messin' with ya' Larry.

I think I just pissed myself........

"It's been awhile - aren't you two ideologue clowns overdue for another one?"

That should be "ideological clowns." Maybe I'll go all Stalin on him the next time he shows up, just for your entertainment.

"PS - I believe it's spelled "Eunichs"

I believe you're wrong.

EUNUCHS

Gotta run.


Props to BBob for setting up this thread - it garnered a shitload of responses.


I set up a thread once with similar response - the headline read "Who's the Biggest Douche in DR History?"


Every single site member weighed in - it was an 800+ post thread overall. Regrettably, "JeffJ" was at the top of everybody's list.

That thread was more than a backfire; it was the quintessential self-retorting retort (tm), albeit an uncnscious self-retort.

Must have not taken care of an elderly guy before have you NULLIFIDIAN??

Larry Mohr

Posted by LarryMohr at 2008-04-09 10:29 PM | Reply | Flag

"It's been awhile - I'm overdue to do another one"

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-04-09 10:38 PM | Reply | Flag:



That's not cool Ride On. Had I have actually posted it then it would be a different story.

Larry Mohr

BWAHAHAHHA. that's it. Time to hit the shower and the rack.

That should be "ideological clowns." Maybe I'll go all Stalin on him the next time he shows up, just for your entertainment.
Posted by nullifidian


Could that "Stalin" stuff also include an icepick to the head, a la Trotsky in Mexico City?

I believe you're wrong.

You are correct. Shit! I try to be Nazi and fail!



Maybe I'll go all Stalin on him the next time he shows up, just for your entertainment.

You'd better!

If not, I'll have Murphy spike your Margarita with eye-drop solution.


Later.


PS - apologies that your beloved UCLA lost in the Final 4.


PPS - I expect similar condolences if my beloved Red Wings don't take the cup this year.

I think I just pissed myself........

Posted by wisgod at 2008-04-09 10:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yep, it's been a good night. I think a lot of the DR opinion mongering was also definitely and definitively put to rest with the publishing of THE FACTUAL DR "dumbest fucks" list. Opinionating was rendered NULLandVOID once and for all! Thanks for this FACTUAL based forum RCADE.

"That's not cool Ride On. Had I have actually posted it then it would be a different story."


It's to be expected from that eunuch. He/she is not the official Most Worthless Troll for nothing.

It's hilarous that any of you think you have a choice. Left, right, it doesn't matter.

At any time, me and the boyz could shut this place down again.

And there is nothing that could be done to stop it.

Just remember who emailed you Larry when things were at a low point and urged you to come back and stay on the DR.

The post above.....it was a joke Larry...a joke.

Plus, remember NULLandVOID, posts from people on THE FACTUAL DR "dumbest fucks" list don't count, they are meaningless.

If you aren't a liberal, you are a conservative as far as I'm concerned. If you aren't for us you are against us--does that make sense to you? I bet it does.

This little passage speaks volumes.

1. "If you aren't a liberal, you are a conservative"

Either/or mentality that characterize all of BB's posts.

2. "As far as I'm concerned."

Self appointed arbiter and judge of all things.

3. "If you aren't for us you are against us,"

Underlying paranoia with a bit of a persecution complex. Plus the ever present misunderstanding and twisting of biblical ideas to suit his own preconceived agenda. Here it is found in the inversion of the biblical passage: "For he that is not against us is for us." Mark 9:40. Bob wishes to know how to exclude people rather than include them.

4."does that make sense to you? I bet it does."

Claims that he knows what you believe better than you do.



Feel free to apply your labels in whatever way you choose. This thread reveals more about you than about anyone else. Just keep in mind the purpose of applying such labels.

If you remember Junior High School, the answer will come to you.



Us and Them
And after all we're only ordinary men
Me, and you
God only knows it's not what we would choose to do

THE FACTUAL DR "dumbest fucks" list don't count, they are meaningless.

Posted by ride_on





The finest example of irony I have seen in quite some time.

Austrian economics?

I think the Austrians would claim this works rather well for them. What? Charge 14% tax to all and that's it.

Sounds like a Fair Tax issue here.

And who was the guy who --Von Misas--what happened to him?

He said to go lock in the interest rate on our house--we did--and saving buckets of money since.

And Jeff--Don't be giving away bartender secrets about eye drops.

It works BTW.

And Congrats to me--I am now the OWNER of my business--not just the Branch Manager--Wahoo for me!

Murphy

i think i forgot tony roma and corky...

Tax rates for Austria:

The tax rates in this country increase in progressive steps up to 50% for income exceeding 50,870.

In Euros ()
Tax rate
Up to 3,640 0%
3,641 - 7,270 21%
7,271 - 21,800 31%
21,801 - 50,870 41%
Income over 50,870 50%

www.helplinelaw.com

AUSTRIA V.A.T AND OTHER TAXES

V.A.T-The standard V.A.T. rate in Austria is 20%.There is a reduced V.A.T. rate of 10%.
The reduced VAT rate applies to tourism services,food and agriculture.
The threshold for VAT registration in Austria is an annual turnover of EUR 22,000.

www.worldwide-tax.com

Oh, and Murphy- CONGRATS on owning the business! (for real). That's outstanding. Best wishes for success.

next, bluffalo will want us to define "troll".

So the bastards raised the rate since 2004 ey'.

Typical Democrat mentality.

That's one reason it can't get done here--they would start at one rate and then raise it every year until they were at 50%.

So what one does in Austria--is become a tourist!

Murphy

"Austrian economics?"

Uh, Murphy, that doesn't refer to the economic policies of Austria.

add "reznworks" to my list.

Awesome armory in Graz. I like that town.

Thanks Yav--

And on continuing to build an empire--I sent the Hubby back to school!

He is there tonight for his first of 9 classes. He is going to write appraisals/damage estimates on vehicles.

So when I have claims where the vehicle is damaged I send him instead of the company I currently send out.

Next is tractor-trailers!

Oh and slave labor using my daughter to do office work..

Murphy

Null--

When Von Mises was here and going back and forth with Ray--I believe they referred to Austria and the fair tax concept.

There was a website--

www.vonmises.com

Murphy

Null-

You are right--the von mises thing is on the gold standard concept.

They had other articles though--it's been a while.

Murphy

You're most welcome Murphy. It's exciting.

That's one reason it can't get done here--they would start at one rate and then raise it every year until they were at 50%.

You might be surprised at the historic top rates in the United States, Murphy. Look at 1952-1953. 92%!

en.wikipedia.org

Outta here for the night!

You are all surface scratchers that think you have an impact.

But the truth is, you are bugs in the compost heap, unable to understand the deeper meaning.

This place is on borrowed time, enjoy it while it is pain free.

The clock is ticking.

Danni
Spud
Nullifidian
Truthhurts
ManyPaths
Moder8
Herm
Hans
Yomama
Moneywar
Zatoichi
Redneckville
SilverIronist
Yav
Zot

MORE---
Betelg
Boyd
Cooper
Ray
Denise
Lisa
Trees
Rev Darko
AU

More?

Rcade
Gal Tuesday
Larry Mohr
Lil Brit Different
Corky
Roy Batty
Reagan 58
Left Coast Lawyer

I think the reason that a lot of RT assclowns think this is a conservative site is the fact that they dont, "think" that is.

Look at RideOn's post's fer an example.

Okay, you can look away now, don't want ya to get brain damage.

The average liberal poster around here puts more thought into one of their posts than Wide-On does in a weeks worth of throw-away garbage posts.

"The empty can always most the most noise"

"A Tale told by a madman filled with sound and fury
...signifying nothing"

The reasoned postage of those on the left or those who at least lean left in most important respects far surpasses the entire assemblage of RT posts on a daily basis.

Posts by lefties here at the DR are a good reason to consider adopting a liberal/ progressive political stance.

Posts by the righties around here perversely are also another good reason to consider adopting a liberal/ progressive political stance.

Hell, if Nixon were around to read posts by folks like Ride and WisGoo et al he might seriously considering registering as a Dem after about 5 minutes of their drek!

^_^

Be Well.

Outtie biatches, as ya do,
stage left

Fergot Tony Roma!

All apologies Tony!

Also Sarge who has been traditionally conservative but is coming around to seeing the wisdom of an Obnama Presidency.

Spud'll put him down as an Obamacan Nationalist.

Be Well.

The average liberal poster around here puts more thought into one of their posts than Wide-On does in a weeks worth of throw-away garbage posts.

Thought?

The reasoned postage of those on the left or those who at least lean left in most important respects far surpasses the entire assemblage of RT posts on a daily basis.

Reason?

Posted by dethspud at 2008-04-10 12:12 AM

How dare you accuse us liberals of being led by our minds and not our hearts. We are the touchy-feely end of the political spectrum. We can't afford to try and appeal to our base with such things as logic and reason! Their misshapen and misled brains would explode!

By the way, you're Canadian.

STFU

This is Not a Liberal Site

BWWWWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
H

The sad thing is some of you might not actually think that because it isn't liberal enough!

Not a lib site. LMAO.

Cheers,
Walt

Wingnuts think anyone to the left of Karl Rove is a liberal.

Even conservatives don't like NeoConservatives

Walt

Sorry--you are mistaken again. We counted

1. Wisgod 2.Rob the A Hole 3.Ride On 4. Rightisright 5. Nanc 6. Farmer John 7. OzarkAggie 8. Grendel 9. Murphy 10. Kris P Bacon 11. Litlebritdifrnt 12. Oohrah 13. Kuma 14. Salamandagator 15 Walt 16. Sniper 17. Joe 18. AndreaMackris 19. Spielmannsfluch 20. Pragmatus 21. Pinche Mao 22. Jeff J 23. Petrous 24. Crispee OC 25. kerrin57 26. Newjasman 27. TakeitEZ 28. Everlong 29. Bushlovertwo 30 Jestgettinalong 31. Pirate 32. Goatman 33. KBM 34. Legio 35. 08R4EVER 36. JonRyker 37. Sickolibs 38. Boaz 39. JoeLabey 40. JMJF 41. HagbardCeline 42. KWRX25 43. SE4NY6969 44. Cookfish 45. 101Chairborne 46. Johnson 47.Crackpipejunkie 48. MSGT 49. Jacque Strap 50. retnluvnit 51. Califchris 52. Armyof1 53. MikeWarrior 54. Moomanfl 55. Ray 56. Jsprague 57. 2112 58. Member 59. RightoCenter 60. Zatoichi

Many more conservative posters than liberal. Of course this can be checked at anytime under comparable circumstances.

It took Nanc three weeks to find as many liberal posters as I found conservative poster in only five of the threads posting today.

I would say over any given time there are more conservative posters than liberal posters on this site and anyone who disagrees can count them up and prove me mistaken.

Only one righty haunts your sick nightmares ButtfuckBob.

You are mentally ill buddy, the ones that tell you so aren't 'right wingers', they actually care about how sick you are.

And fear for the general population that interacts with you.

Buffalo Bullshit,

Why am I number 49? Certainly I have worked hard enough to piss off you liberal losers. How many handles do I have to go through to get some respect around here?

Certainly my assertions that you and Spudflakes make sweet luff in his canadian trailer have got to earned some points. If not I can ramp up my game and include some rcade bashing for flava.

Sincerely, Crackpipejunkie

anyone who disagrees can count them up and prove me mistaken.

I disagree.

And I aint gonna waste my time counting anything.

If this aint a liberal website, somebody better tell the Pope he aint Catholic.

Just because there may be more normal people on here does not mean it is a normal website. It's like San Francisco, it is a gay city even though there are non-gay people there.

Cheers,
Walt

Walt

Sorry--reality proves you to be mistaken. Of course that never stopped your point of view before.

Facts are--there are many more conservative posters on this site than liberals.

Walt

Sorry--reality proves you to be mistaken. Of course that never stopped your point of view before.

Facts are--there are many more conservative posters on this site than liberals.

Walt

Sorry--reality proves you to be mistaken. Of course that never stopped your point of view before.

Facts are--there are many more conservative posters on this site than liberals.

Well that

still does not

make this a conservative website.

Cheers,
Walt

Walt

I guess it depends on your point of view. Most people would consider the majority of posters on a site would indicte that sites status.

I guess your point is that since a liberal owns the site it must be liberal. That logic would indicate that since all the major media outlets are owned by conservatives the media must be conservative.

I agree.

;-)

BB,

It wouldn't shock me at all if you thought the media was conservative, being as far left as you are.

Do you really think that right leaning posts are the majority of what are made here?

I feel so left out (no pun intended)

Can I get on a list?

Please?

Labels are misleading and some DR posters don't easily fall into the label of liberal or conservative.

I am going to ammend Bbob's list to reflect those individuals AND I won't try and claim them as liberals when I post my own, incomplete list in a moment.

1. Wisgod 2.Rob the A Hole 3.Ride On 4. Rightisright 5. Nanc 6. Farmer John 7. OzarkAggie 8. Grendel 9. Murphy 10. Kris P Bacon 11. Litlebritdifrnt 12. Oohrah 13. Kuma 14. Salamandagator 15 Walt 16. Sniper 17. Joe 18. AndreaMackris 19. Spielmannsfluch 20. Pragmatus 21. Pinche Mao 22. Jeff J 23. Petrous 24. Crispee OC 25. kerrin57 26. Newjasman 27. TakeitEZ 28. Everlong 29. Bushlovertwo 30 Jestgettinalong 31. Pirate 32. Goatman 33. KBM 34. Legio 35. 08R4EVER 36. JonRyker 37. Sickolibs 38. Boaz 39. JoeLabey 40. JMJF 41. HagbardCeline 42. KWRX25 43. SE4NY6969 44. Cookfish 45. 101Chairborne 46. Johnson 47.Crackpipejunkie 48. MSGT 49. Jacque Strap 50. retnluvnit 51. Califchris 52. Armyof1 53. MikeWarrior 54. Moomanfl 55. Ray 56. Jsprague 57. 2112 58. Member 59. RightoCenter 60. Zatoichi


Your con list doesn't include: Tadowe, Liveordie, MrFair and repub4ever.


So we'll add them and subtract the 'unclaimables':

That's plus-4 minus-10, which leaves a net of 54 Conservatives on this site.

Sorry, that's minus-9.

I borrowed Vernon's calculator.....oops. Vern isn't on Bbob's list either.

That means this site has 56 Conservatives.


Here's an incomplete list of site liberals:

1 Rcade 2 twinpac 3 hans 4 alex 5 boyd 6 klifferd 7 odie1kenobie 8 larry 9 sambarber 10 sanantoniorogue 11 taxman 12 danforth 13 redlightrobot 14 bani 15 buffbob 16 spud 17 $war 18 nullifidian 19 axe 20 reagan58 21 berkley 22 dcinma 23 commonsense 24 americanunity 25 briwo 26 manypaths 27 northguy 28 frank55 29 argh 30 townandcountry 31 stupidjerk 32 roma 33 truthhurts 34 silver ironist 35 sagmain 36 roybatty 37 corky 38 leftcoastlawyer 39 denise 40 vickithebrit 41 revdarko 42 r8rh8r 43 moder8 44 yav 45 danni 46 gz 47 dave 48 midiman 49 kinghthawk 50 726 51 sitdown 52 herm 53 dylanfan 54 theperfectstorm 55 tedbaxter 56 zed 57 redneckvill 58 resnwerks 59 donnerbory 60 rastacyborg 61 apololypto 62 mistakurtz 63 keith204 64 bigjohn1972 65 nutcase 66 ness gadol 67 celisary 68 wtf


So, by my count it's 68 liberals to 56 conservatives.

What about Tosser?

What about Furio?

What about Messiah?

Or is that one covered under Jackass?

What about Larry Mohr?

What about Herm?

What about CalifChris is not a conservative?

He/She aint a conservative.

This is Not a Liberal Site

BWWWWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
H

The sad thing is some of you might not actually think that because it isn't liberal enough!

Not a lib site. LMAO.


Actually this is a liberal site by definition. It embraces the "back and forth" of ideas. No one gets put in the sin bin for voicing a political position.

Leave it to Liberals to create a place where everyone has a voice. Not a stretch you know. Liberals founded the United States after all.

What about Rheinheitsgebot?

What about Redlightrobot

What about AngryDad?

What About Evildave?

What about AllieKat?

BustyAngel?
Mesohorny?

Actually this is a liberal site by definition

And your point is what? You just want to argue with me? Don't worry about me. If you want to say this site is liberal, address it to BB who says otherwise.

Thanks for playing.

Cheers,
Walt

Actually this is a liberal site by definition. It embraces the "back and forth" of ideas. No one gets put in the sin bin for voicing a political position.

Leave it to Liberals to create a place where everyone has a voice.



Rcade, and by association liberals, deserve mega-props for creating a site atmosphere where opposition viewpoints are not only tolerated, but are welcomed.


Liberals founded the United States after all.

You are being awfully loose with the term "Liberal" with that statement.

The "Liberals" who were our founding fathers bear little resemblance to the giant-government hugging "Liberals" of modern day. Fact is, the closest modern-day label that mirrors the liberals who were our founders is "Libertarian".


Do you think for a moment that Thomas Jefferson would embrace the massive growth of government that is championed by modern-day "Liberals"?


I thought not.

Considering the senority number on the DR is over 700, may I suggest a few posters are missing from both lists?

Add to my list:

69 furio 70 tosser 71 messiah 72 angrydad 73 alliekat 74 evildave



To BBob's list add

57 Acitizen

I will say this:


Over the course of the 4 years that I've been visiting this site the proportion of liberals to conservatives has narrowed - the site has become closer to centrist in terms of the leanings of its members.

69: Karen561 (even though I don"t post much, I couldn't pass up being this number)

75 dawnglo 76 dragonlady

Damn, Jeff beat me redoing the list. Oh well

JeffJ

68.Treesgonewild
69.Jcash...alias Jomama
70.Katieberry
71.Messiah

then WALTS

72.Angrydad
73.AllieKat...alias for some hairy druge lefty
74.Rheinheitsgebot
75.Evildave
isn't there some blueinthe bushland or blue in red state guy?

69: Karen561 (even though I don"t post much, I couldn't pass up being this number)


That's hot!


If you want to claim that number, it's all yours, Karen.


I will ammend my list right now!

ooppss...you'll have redo the #'s JJ

You are being awfully loose with the term "Liberal" with that statement.

You're only bothered to respond because it strikes too close to home. Look at how Walt responded. That's a response! You can't even agree with a Conservative without being accused of trying to start an argument. Sheesh!

Thanks Jeff, I'll claim it

Kerrin,


Let's get this straight:

69 karen561 70 furio 71 tosser 72 messiah 73 angrydad 74 alliekat 75 evildave.....

76 trueblue 77 blueinbushland 78 darthcheney 79 shotguncheney 80 katieberry 81 kgbkeeper 82 jomamma 83 Rheinheitsgebot

84 dirtyrightboy aka dirtysanchezboy

85 chitownguy

My pleasure, Karen!

You should post more often!

I think Danni should count ten points!

You can't even agree with a Conservative without being accused of trying to start an argument. Sheesh!

If I took your statement the wrong way, I apologize.

When you have the name "Walt" you get used to people swooping in to try to attack.

Nopthing personal.

Cheers,
Walt

Ohhrah,


84 _b_


Lisa doesn't fit into either category IMO.

I think Danni should count ten points!

Posted by kerrin57


10 X 0 = 0

Need to see a pic of Karen.

Who has the complete lists now?

Cheers,
Walt

Walt,


Yav is one of the site's reasonable lefties.

I doubt you insulted him - he has a real sense of humor.

Wis,

Quit bagging on Danni, you Favre cock-stroking douche!
Her stuff has been excellent over the last few months. (I am serious)

"You should post more often!"

For the record, I come here every morning to read and drink coffee. It helps get my day going. I just don't have time to get into 3 hour arguments. But I do yell at the screen at times :o)

Lisa doesn't fit into either category IMO.

Posted by JeffJ at 2008-04-10 08:18 AM



suck up!

86. Tigerbalm

I think Lisa fits into the left category.

Quit bagging on Danni...Her stuff has been excellent over the last few months.


It's amazing how much mental clarity can result from shaving a mustache, a mullet and arm-pit hair. She must be trolling for a more feminine dyke to leach off of.


Sincerely,

101Chairborne

Her stuff has been excellent over the last few months. (I am serious)

Posted by JeffJ

I'll give you this, she has found a sense of humor lately.

What about Tampa?


Where u at BboB? Still think it is a conservative blog?

Walt,


Lisa comes accross more left than right, however I think enough ambiguity exists that precludes her from falling into either category.


My response to this is not at all about bludgeoning BBob. I think he raised a very interesting topic and I am trying to be as fair and scientific about it as possible.

I think Lisa falls into the 'undefined' bin.

I am trying to be as fair and scientific about it as possible.

Tell that to BB. He put CC as a conservative!

And not trying to buldgeon him either. He gets enough from everyone else. It is a good topic but he is way wrong!

Cheers,
Walt

Here is what I got so far.

1 Rcade 2 twinpac 3 hans 4 alex 5 boyd 6 klifferd 7 odie1kenobie 8 larry 9 sambarber 10 sanantoniorogue 11 taxman 12 danforth 13 redlightrobot 14 bani 15 buffbob 16 spud 17 $war 18 nullifidian 19 axe 20 reagan58 21 berkley 22 dcinma 23 commonsense 24 americanunity 25 briwo 26 manypaths 27 northguy 28 frank55 29 argh 30 townandcountry 31 stupidjerk 32 roma 33 truthhurts 34 silver ironist 35 sagmain 36 roybatty 37 corky 38 leftcoastlawyer 39 denise 40 vickithebrit 41 revdarko 42 r8rh8r 43 moder8 44 yav 45 danni 46 gz 47 dave 48 midiman 49 kinghthawk 50 726 51 sitdown 52 herm 53 dylanfan 54 theperfectstorm 55 tedbaxter 56 zed 57 redneckvill 58 resnwerks 59 donnerbory 60 rastacyborg 61 apololypto 62 mistakurtz 63 keith204 64 bigjohn1972 65 nutcase 66 ness gadol 67 celisary 68 wtf 69 Tosser 70 Furio 71 Messiah 72 Larry Mohr 73 Herm 74 CalifChris 75 Redlightrobot 76 AngryDad 77 AllieKat 78 Rheinhieitsgetbot 79 Karen 561 80 Dawnglo 81 DragonLady 82 Treesgonewild
83 Jcash...alias Jomama 84Katieberry 85 trueblue 86 blueinbushland 87 darthcheney 88 shotguncheney 89 kgbkeeper 90 Lisa 91 Tigerbalm 92 OzarkAggie 93 litlbritdifnrt 94 zatiochi 95 Jsprague 96 Ray

Also available in Zat format:

1 Rcade
2 twinpac
3 hans
4 alex
5 boyd
6 klifferd
7 odie1kenobie
8 larry
9 sambarber
10 sanantoniorogue
11 taxman
12 danforth
13 redlightrobot
14 bani
15 buffbob
16 spud
17 $war
18 nullifidian
19 axe
20 reagan58
21 berkley
22 dcinma
23 commonsense
24 americanunity
25 briwo
26 manypaths
27 northguy
28 frank55
29 argh
30 townandcountry
31 stupidjerk
32 roma
33 truthhurts
34 silver ironist
35 sagmain
36 roybatty
37 corky
38 leftcoastlawyer
39 denise
40 vickithebrit
41 revdarko
42 r8rh8r
43 moder8
44 yav
45 danni
46 gz
47 dave
48 midiman
49 kinghthawk
50 726
51 sitdown
52 herm
53 dylanfan
54 theperfectstorm
55 tedbaxter
56 zed
57 redneckvill
58 resnwerks
59 donnerbory
60 rastacyborg
61 apololypto
62 mistakurtz
63 keith204
64 bigjohn1972
65 nutcase
66 ness gadol
67 celisary
68 wtf
69 Tosser
70 Furio
71 Messiah
72 Larry Mohr
73 Herm
74 CalifChris
75 Redlightrobot
76 AngryDad
77 AllieKat
78 Rheinhieitsgetbot
79 Karen 561
80 Dawnglo
81 DragonLady
82 Treesgonewild
83 Jcash...alias Jomama
84Katieberry
85 trueblue
86 blueinbushland
87 darthcheney
88 shotguncheney
89 kgbkeeper
90 Lisa
91 Tigerbalm
92 OzarkAggie
93 litlbritdifnrt
94 zatiochi
95 Jsprague
96 Ray

Please! This site is so Liberal it has a small poodle, a spriritual lifemate named Ramone.com and loses 23lbs a week...

I'm surprised Springsteen's "Philadelphia" isn't streamed onto every page 24/7...

Walt,


I'd cap your list at 90.

Lisa, Oz, Brit, Zat, JS and Ray don't fit into either category IMO.

"You're only bothered to respond because it strikes too close to home. Look at how Walt responded. That's a response! You can't even agree with a Conservative without being accused of trying to start an argument. Sheesh!

Posted by YAV at 2008-04-10 08:11 AM"

You're absolutely correct, YAV!

"The "Liberals" who were our founding fathers bear little resemblance to the giant-government hugging "Liberals" of modern day. Fact is, the closest modern-day label that mirrors the liberals who were our founders is "Libertarian".

Do you think for a moment that Thomas Jefferson would embrace the massive growth of government that is championed by modern-day "Liberals"?

I thought not.

Posted by JeffJ at 2008-04-10 07:58 AM"

EEYEOWWW Jeff! I'll leave that embracing to the current administration ;-)! Puhleeze don't even try to trot out this tired, old canard ESPECIALLY given USA's present circumstances.

The Conservatives might (desperately try to) distance themselves from President Bush, but the fact is he was THEIR protege', THEIR choice (more than once!), and (now) THEIR Albatross. President Bush is no "spot-changing leopard". Mr. Bush's history of words/actions were well-known. Sorry, but "buyer's remorse" is not an acceptable excuse.

Meanwhile, to some extent, I can concur with your thoughts about TJ and "Libertarian". OTOH, given the uniqueness of their situation, it probably is difficult to adequately compare current idealogies to the situation the Founding Fathers faced in the 1770's. However, I do think a good case could be made for drawing an analogy between presnt-day Conservatives to the Tories of the 1770's.

Other meanwhile: I also don't post often, but would opt to put myself in the "Liberal" column.

Oohrah,


I guess we'l have to agree to disagree regarding Lisa.


However,

let's add:

91 Zap

"You're only bothered to respond because it strikes too close to home. Look at how Walt responded. That's a response! You can't even agree with a Conservative without being accused of trying to start an argument. Sheesh!

Posted by YAV at 2008-04-10 08:11 AM"

You're absolutely correct, YAV!

"The "Liberals" who were our founding fathers bear little resemblance to the giant-government hugging "Liberals" of modern day. Fact is, the closest modern-day label that mirrors the liberals who were our founders is "Libertarian".

Do you think for a moment that Thomas Jefferson would embrace the massive growth of government that is championed by modern-day "Liberals"?

I thought not.

Posted by JeffJ at 2008-04-10 07:58 AM"

EEYEOWWW Jeff! I'll leave that embracing to the current administration ;-)! Puhleeze don't even try to trot out this tired, old canard ESPECIALLY given USA's present circumstances.

The Conservatives might (desperately try to) distance themselves from President Bush, but the fact is he was THEIR protege', THEIR choice (more than once!), and (now) THEIR Albatross. President Bush is no "spot-changing leopard". Mr. Bush's history of words/actions were well-known. Sorry, but "buyer's remorse" is not an acceptable excuse.

Meanwhile, to some extent, I can concur with your thoughts about TJ and "Libertarian". OTOH, given the uniqueness of their situation, it probably is difficult to adequately compare current idealogies to the situation the Founding Fathers faced in the 1770's. However, I do think a good case could be made for drawing an analogy between presnt-day Conservatives to the Tories of the 1770's.

Other meanwhile: I also don't post often, but would opt to put myself in the "Liberal" column.

JJ...??
87. gitmboy

Don't forget BenFranklin...

Also anyone here that claims to be an Independent is likely a liberal.

Don't forget that filthy beast, Montecore.

I guess it depends on your point of view. Most people would consider the majority of posters on a site would indicte that sites status.

I guess your point is that since a liberal owns the site it must be liberal. That logic would indicate that since all the major media outlets are owned by conservatives the media must be conservative.


----

So if I create a website and link all sorts of anti-Obama stories and my intent in creating the website is to make it anti-Obama. But more pro-Obama people post than anti-Obama, then it's a pro-Obama website?

Riiiiiiiight. Bob, you've been smoking whatever is coming out of that smokestack on the moon.

Rob, who was the other Muslim that Kliff chums around with?

1 Rcade 2 twinpac 3 hans 4 alex 5 boyd 6 klifferd 7 odie1kenobie 8 larry 9 sambarber 10 sanantoniorogue 11 taxman 12 danforth 13 redlightrobot 14 bani 15 buffbob 16 spud 17 $war 18 nullifidian 19 axe 20 reagan58 21 berkley 22 dcinma 23 commonsense 24 americanunity 25 briwo 26 manypaths 27 northguy 28 frank55 29 argh 30 townandcountry 31 stupidjerk 32 roma 33 truthhurts 34 silver ironist 35 sagmain 36 roybatty 37 corky 38 leftcoastlawyer 39 denise 40 vickithebrit 41 revdarko 42 r8rh8r 43 moder8 44 yav 45 danni 46 gz 47 dave 48 midiman 49 kinghthawk 50 726 51 sitdown 52 herm 53 dylanfan 54 theperfectstorm 55 tedbaxter 56 zed 57 redneckvill 58 resnwerks 59 donnerbory 60 rastacyborg 61 apololypto 62 mistakurtz 63 keith204 64 bigjohn1972 65 nutcase 66 ness gadol 67 celisary 68 wtf 69 Tosser 70 Furio 71 Messiah 72 Larry Mohr 73 Herm 74 CalifChris 75 Redlightrobot 76 AngryDad 77 AllieKat 78 Rheinhieitsgetbot 79 Karen 561 80 Dawnglo 81 DragonLady 82 Treesgonewild
83 Jcash...alias Jomama 84Katieberry 85 trueblue 86 blueinbushland 87 darthcheney 88 shotguncheney 89 kgbkeeper 90 Tigerbalm 91 litlbritdifnrt 92 Jsprague 93 trueblue

Plus, again, you cannot tell the political leanings of those that view only. You have to include them if you want to base it on audience.

Slight mod

1 Rcade 2 twinpac 3 hans 4 alex 5 boyd 6 klifferd 7 odie1kenobie 8 larry 9 sambarber 10 sanantoniorogue 11 taxman 12 danforth 13 redlightrobot 14 bani 15 buffbob 16 spud 17 $war 18 nullifidian 19 axe 20 reagan58 21 berkley 22 dcinma 23 commonsense 24 americanunity 25 briwo 26 manypaths 27 northguy 28 frank55 29 argh 30 townandcountry 31 stupidjerk 32 roma 33 truthhurts 34 silver ironist 35 sagmain 36 roybatty 37 corky 38 leftcoastlawyer 39 denise 40 vickithebrit 41 revdarko 42 r8rh8r 43 moder8 44 yav 45 danni 46 gz 47 dave 48 midiman 49 kinghthawk 50 726 51 sitdown 52 herm 53 dylanfan 54 theperfectstorm 55 tedbaxter 56 zed 57 redneckvill 58 resnwerks 59 donnerbory 60 rastacyborg 61 apololypto 62 mistakurtz 63 keith204 64 bigjohn1972 65 nutcase 66 ness gadol 67 celisary 68 wtf 69 Tosser 70 Furio 71 Messiah 72 Larry Mohr 73 Herm 74 CalifChris 77 AngryDad 77 AllieKat 79 Rheinhieitsgetbot 80 Karen 561 81 Dawnglo 82 DragonLady 83 Treesgonewild
84 Jcash...alias Jomama 85 Katieberry 86 trueblue 87 blueinbushland 88 darthcheney 89 shotguncheney 90 kgbkeeper 91 Tigerbalm 92 litlbritdifnrt 93 Jsprague 94 trueblue 95 Tampa

Define liberal

I don't fit the label.

NeoConservative is NOT a conservative. Conservatives HATE what NeoCons have done to the name.

1 Rcade 2 twinpac 3 hans 4 alex 5 boyd 6 klifferd 7 odie1kenobie 8 larry 9 sambarber 10 sanantoniorogue 11 taxman 12 danforth 13 redlightrobot 14 bani 15 buffbob 16 spud 17 $war 18 nullifidian 19 axe 20 reagan58 21 berkley 22 dcinma 23 commonsense 24 americanunity 25 briwo 26 manypaths 27 northguy 28 frank55 29 argh 30 townandcountry 31 stupidjerk 32 roma 33 truthhurts 34 silver ironist 35 sagmain 36 roybatty 37 corky 38 leftcoastlawyer 39 denise 40 vickithebrit 41 revdarko 42 r8rh8r 43 moder8 44 yav 45 danni 46 gz 47 dave 48 midiman 49 kinghthawk 50 726 51 sitdown 52 herm 53 dylanfan 54 theperfectstorm 55 tedbaxter 56 zed 57 redneckvill 58 resnwerks 59 donnerbory 60 rastacyborg 61 apololypto 62 mistakurtz 63 keith204 64 bigjohn1972 65 nutcase 66 ness gadol 67 celisary 68 wtf 69 Tosser 70 Furio 71 Messiah 72 Larry Mohr 73 Herm 74 CalifChris 77 AngryDad 77 AllieKat 79 Rheinhieitsgetbot 80 Karen 561 81 Dawnglo 82 DragonLady 83 Treesgonewild
84 Jcash...alias Jomama 85 Katieberry 86 trueblue 87 blueinbushland 88 darthcheney 89 shotguncheney 90 kgbkeeper 91 Tigerbalm 92 litlbritdifnrt 93 Jsprague 94 trueblue 95 Tampa 96 Pirate

lol.

1 americanunity 2 twinpac 3 hans 4 alex 5 boyd 6 klifferd 7 odie1kenobie 8 larry 9 sambarber 10 sanantoniorogue 11 taxman 12 danforth 13 redlightrobot 14 bani 15 buffbob 16 spud 17 $war 18 nullifidian 19 axe 20 reagan58 21 berkley 22 dcinma 23 commonsense 24 Rcade 25 briwo 26 manypaths 27 northguy 28 frank55 29 argh 30 townandcountry 31 stupidjerk 32 roma 33 truthhurts 34 silver ironist 35 sagmain 36 roybatty 37 corky 38 leftcoastlawyer 39 denise 40 vickithebrit 41 revdarko 42 r8rh8r 43 moder8 44 yav 45 danni 46 gz 47 dave 48 midiman 49 kinghthawk 50 726 51 sitdown 52 herm 53 dylanfan 54 theperfectstorm 55 tedbaxter 56 zed 57 redneckvill 58 resnwerks 59 donnerbory 60 rastacyborg 61 apololypto 62 mistakurtz 63 keith204 64 bigjohn1972 65 nutcase 66 ness gadol 67 celisary 68 wtf 69 Tosser 70 Furio 71 Messiah 72 Larry Mohr 73 Herm 74 CalifChris 77 AngryDad 77 AllieKat 79 Rheinhieitsgetbot 80 Karen 561 81 Dawnglo 82 DragonLady 83 Treesgonewild 84 Jcash...alias Jomama 85 Katieberry 86 trueblue 87 blueinbushland 88 darthcheney 89 shotguncheney 90 kgbkeeper 91 Tigerbalm 92 litlbritdifnrt 93 Jsprague 94 trueblue 95 Tampa 96 Pirate

92 Gitmboy 93 m0ntec0re

Walt,


Remove Pirate immediately!

He is far more conservative than liberal.

1 americanunity 2 twinpac 3 hans 4 alex 5 boyd 6 klifferd 7 odie1kenobie 8 larry 9 sambarber 10 sanantoniorogue 11 taxman 12 danforth 13 redlightrobot 14 bani 15 buffbob 16 spud 17 $war 18 nullifidian 19 axe 20 reagan58 21 berkley 22 dcinma 23 commonsense 24 Rcade 25 briwo 26 manypaths 27 northguy 28 frank55 29 argh 30 townandcountry 31 stupidjerk 32 roma 33 truthhurts 34 silver ironist 35 sagmain 36 roybatty 37 corky 38 leftcoastlawyer 39 denise 40 vickithebrit 41 revdarko 42 r8rh8r 43 moder8 44 yav 45 danni 46 gz 47 dave 48 midiman 49 kinghthawk 50 726 51 sitdown 52 herm 53 dylanfan 54 theperfectstorm 55 tedbaxter 56 zed 57 redneckvill 58 resnwerks 59 donnerbory 60 rastacyborg 61 apololypto 62 mistakurtz 63 keith204 64 bigjohn1972 65 nutcase 66 ness gadol 67 celisary 68 wtf 69 Tosser 70 Furio 71 Messiah 72Herm 73 CalifChris 79 AngryDad 80 AllieKat 83 Rheinhieitsgetbot 85 Karen 561 86 Dawnglo 87 DragonLady 89 Treesgonewild 90 Jcash...alias Jomama 91Katieberry 92 trueblue 93 blueinbushland 94 darthcheney 95 shotguncheney 96 kgbkeeper 97 Tigerbalm 98 litlbritdifnrt 99 Jsprague 100 trueblue 101 Tampa 102 Pirate

"Didn't NICEVILLE come back in multiple forms?"

Like a Greek myth.

walt...headsup 86...94

Sad that NeoConservatives don't even know what conservative principles are. The NeoCon politicians of the last couple decades certainly didn't act like conservatives.

Read up on Barry Goldwater and get back to us

NeoCons are irresponsible morons who divide the country with empty rhetoric.

Yea, I'm definitely more conservative than liberal.

AU,


Define liberal

I don't fit the label.



Labels are very limiting.


That said, you come down on the left-side of the aisle on most topics that you choose to comment on.

The fact that you are reasonable a majority of the time AND that you can carry on a civil conversation with almost any given DR Conservative moves you out of the category of 'mindless sheep' that I am guessing you feel is assumed with an assigned label.

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Leave it to Liberals to create a place where everyone has a voice.
Posted by YAV


Exactly, the main problem with listing liberals is that they generally hate to be categorized. Most hate being tagged with any label even ones that fit. I consider myself a Radical Freedomist Libertainian Socialist. I guess you could put me on the Liberal list. Although I would agree with the Cons if they actually meant it when they talk about keeping government out of your personal life.

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Rob, who was the other Muslim that Kliff chums around with?

Posted by wisgod


there's Tosser, but then I think there is also another Passover Dinner Ruiner somewhere lurking in the DR shadows... I forget his name though...

Walt

Ya gotta do more than post names

They gotta be liberals

Show me a liberal post from littlebritdifrnt

Then tell me the range you are using--how far back are you going, and have links to their liberal posts when asked.

Then we'll play.

I only looked at five threads on one for my list. My list is current with well known posters. Your list is old with lots of people I never heard of.

But let's play on a level field.

How far back do you want to go?

Far far FAR more conservatives on this site than liberals.

;-)

i agree with oohrah - it is a fair site regardless of how many libs or cons there are and rcade is extremely fair.

p.s. - bluffalo - why set a limit on how far we can go back in the archives?

Did we get RCade yet?

on par with Lesbian Biker Chick

why set a limit on how far we can go back in the archives?

----

Because Bob has to be right. He'll twist and turn everything until he's right no matter how convoluted it gets. You can only play by Bob's rules.

"... Katieberry 83 trueblue 84 blueinbushland 85 darthcheney 86 shotguncheney 87 kgbkeeper 88 Tigerbalm 89 litlbritdifnrt 90 Jsprague 91 trueblue 92 Tampa 93 Gitmboy 94 montecore 95 tfdnihilist

Posted by Walt at 2008-04-10 11:17 AM"

Hi Walt,

While I appreciate the honor, it's probably more accurate to have me (Trueblue) only listed once (see #83 and #91).

Nanc

why set a limit on how far we can go back in the archives?

1. So we both are working from the same time frame


Do you see how you might find more liberal posters if you go back three weeks and I only look at todays posting?

why set a limit on how far we can go back in the archives?

----

Because Bob has to be right. He'll twist and turn everything until he's right no matter how convoluted it gets. You can only play by Bob's rules.

Posted by Pirate at 2008-04-10 11:44 AM | Reply


Only someone as twisted as you could see it that way. I let others set the limits--that means they set whatever parameters they like--not me. I just ask that we both use the same criteria. I know that sounds like cheating to you, but it really isn't.

31 stupidjerk

You fucking dipshits. You think that just b/c someone disagrees w/ you at any time that that person holds the opposite political views.

Find one post of mine that can place me in the LIB camp...socially, maybe...politically, never.

Do you see how you might find more liberal posters if you go back three weeks and I only look at todays posting?

Posted by Buffalo_Bob

It shows the difference between Conservative and Liberal work ethic. Nanc will go back 3 weeks, while you are ready to collect unemployment after 1 day.

Looks like Bob loses again. Go back to talking to the walls, you fucking freak.

Tell that to BB. He put CC as a conservative!

Cheers,
Walt

Posted by Walt at 2008-04-10 08:38 AM




"I am registered as an "independent" on the voting roles.

On many issues I definitely lean to the right.

I innocently voted for Bush in 2000."

Posted by CalifChris at 2008-04-09 02:21 PM | Reply


Seems you are mistaken again Walt.

Only someone as twisted as you could see it that way. I let others set the limits--that means they set whatever parameters they like--not me. I just ask that we both use the same criteria. I know that sounds like cheating to you, but it really isn't.

----

No, when asked time and time again to create a list of liberal posters, you refused and said other people need to create one. One is created. Then you complain that it's not right and you want one created to your standards.

If you don't like the list others created, tough. Create your own.

I'm a classical liberal... that makes me a 1776 Whig (eat your heart out SA Rogue)... which makes me a right-wing conservative in 2008.

So true Pirate--

Reminds me about the guy who is eating his lunch and he is bitching and complaining about the baloney sandwich.

His co worker asks who makes his lunch--the guy answers "I do"...

That's BB--all the time.

This site is about even for left and right posters and slightly to the left in general--just look at the sources to link on the front page.

Rcade set this up with that intent to be left leaning.

So what! I think most folks like the cite that is why they keep coming back.

Isn't that what really matter?

Murphy

Pirate

Others can look at my list and object to their name being on---I have taken two names off as I was incorrect in putting them on there. I guess you seem to think if a name is on a list, that makes it valid. I have a different view. I think if a name is on anyones list--anyone can challenge it. Walt challenged me putting Califchris on my list. I showed him a link where CC says he leans to the right.

I guess you think it is fair that others can question my list but I can't question their list. That's why you are a conservative. Your sense of fairness only leans one way.

"Still think it is a conservative blog?"

Don't think that was his point. Think he was initially just trying to show it's not a vastly liberal blog and botched it (yeah, Buffalo, you can tell me I'm wrong). I would agree. There's way too much diversity to be labelled that way. Unless you label Ray ( a thorough libertarian) a liberal and count from there. Or include Tosser who's main position is to poke fun at those who believe Americans are God's chosen people.

"Also anyone here that claims to be an Independent is likely a liberal."

And you would be wrong.

CC leans right of center on most issues--left on social issues probably.

Lisa leans left on everything Except she is adamently pro-life.

Leaning left does not mean Liberal.

Liberals--hard lefties are on moveon and KOs and HUffington. Those sites are downright hateful at times--ok--most of the time.

Murphy

Pirate

Let's see if you are fair enough to post the reason I wouldn't make up the list of liberals.

Come on "fair boy" see if you can get off your partisan horse for a second.

Do I need to post it myself to prove what a punk you are?


I'm a classical liberal... that makes me a 1776 Whig (eat your heart out SA Rogue)... which makes me a right-wing conservative in 2008.
~FARMER_JOHN




Classically Clueless in any era..


Neither. I'm heterosexual.

Posted by dxlingr


Bullshit Flag

That's the thing, Bob,

You don't want just a name on the list. You want only posters who have posted in the past 2-3 days and link to their posting showing their political view but it's how you define their political view.

People can challenge the names on the list, sure. Nobody is defining the days but you. That was your criteria. Instead of changing your list, you want others to change their list.

You want all the criteria to be yours. The days, the links, the political definitions.

There are only liberals and not liberals.

If you aren't a liberal, you are something else.

The statement was made that this blog has way more liberals than anything else.

That point has been disproven

Liberals are in the minority on this site.

Classically Clueless in any era..


I agree zap. These days, "Clueless" IS a great synonym for "Liberal."

I suspected that BBob would go this route.


Bob, and only Bob, is the sole arbiter of who falls into which label.

Also, Bbob's rules have another curious quirk:


People who don't fall into the modern liberal or conservative label (like Ray, Zatoichi, Littlebrit, Sully, etc) are classified as conservatives.


As long as BBob has 100% ability to control all of the rules, he'll always be right.


BTW - only a couple of names on the liberal list haven't posted in awhile, AND I added some names of Conservatives that you missed, just to be fair.


The one thing that is proven by the lists created - those who fall into the modern liberal label easily outnumber those who fall into the modern Conservative label by almost 2-1.

When I first arrived 4 years ago that ratio was more like 4 or 5 to 1. Murphy can attest to this, she first showed up a little bit after I did.

This site has definitely moved closer to center when looking at the leanings of its members.

liber-al. Liber: Latin for free. Latin for books.

...and given the list of "2nd" most favorite books on the other thread, there were very few "classics" on most lists...

Liberals are in the minority on this site.


You mean your side is losing ground, bOoB? Too bad for you!

If you aren't a liberal, you are something else.

Such wisdom

Liberals are in the minority on this site.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-04-10 12:34 PM


Buffy...You really do have trouble with reality.

Also, Bbob's rules have another curious quirk:


People who don't fall into the modern liberal or conservative label (like Ray, Zatoichi, Littlebrit, Sully, etc) are classified as conservatives.



Buffalo bob = Binary bob

I have been told that Libs far outnumber rightwing nutjobs on this site. Let's count and see

then

The statement was made that this blog has way more liberals than anything else.

----

You changed again from the beginning of your post. That's why no list created by others will satisfy you because you will always twist things until you're right. That has been proven by your very own posts.

I consider myself slightly left of center, so I guess that makes me a liberal. Of course, the word "liberal" is being phased out as the word "progressive" gets phased in.

I think a more telling statistic would be "number of self-righteous blowhards".

the parties should be renamed good and evil

I find it ironic that I've probably spent more time than anyone else here around hardcore "conservative" individuals, and because of this my radar can pick up on the hypocrites in the group and those who are the true conservatives-- those who simply mouth the party line and take a belligerent superpatriotic tone as opposed to those who actually have deep rooted core beliefs in old-school conservatism-- I am usually tagged liberal by those "conservatives" who have more trotskyist leanings than anything, either that or freaky bible thumpers or rabble rousers and digital-day agitators who haven't felt the physical crush of a drill sergeant's hand of the nape of the neck in their puny lives.

In my world you aren't a liberal-- you're a communist. That's what was drilled into my head form my dad--it was the "liberal" word of the day. Liberal to me means libertarian, which I would consider myself. I've never been able to shake the word "commie" from my head and what it denotes to me. Some commies aren't really that dangerous-- they have more libertarian leanings than they think, but are usually young and confused. Those whose beliefs threaten the securty of what I view as America the eternal constitutional republic, I despise. Those are the "neoconservatives".

Being a true conservative, I never use the "liberal" word in my speech-- it denotes more aobut the user than the one to which it is applied, in my opinion. I try to stay away from the word "neoconservative" as well- either I call 'em hypocrites, zionists, trotskyists, commies, or just plain assholes-- no offense to Rob.


We are Nihilists, Lebowski. We believe in nothing.


That must be exhausting.

Believing in nothing is as easy as closing your eyes.

I like Progressive Radio. LOL. That is right Progressive Radio went out of style when Radio stations actually were in business to make money. Ask Mark Green if he can afford to keep the lights on LOL

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Ok BB,

So long as nobody seems to object to being on this compilation, it looks like I have 98 names as libs.

How many do you have as conservatives?

See how I did that without calling you or anyone else a single name? Remarkable isn't it.

Cheers,
Walt

99. liberalbadasa aka The b00b.

Of course The b00b denied he was liberalbadass so maybe alter egos should count.

100.

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Neocons. LOl I love the word. It is nothing more than a media buzzword invented by the NY Times.
The NY Times is constantly attempting to leave there imprint on American cultr, specificly throug language use. Hey has anyone seen any INSURGENTS today. I heard they are knee deep in a QUAGMIRE.

So I guess I am a neocon because I want to double the size of GITMO. I believe in the Monroe Doctrine and would like to see Bush move the southern border 500 miles south and steal Mexico's oil to pay for all the illegal immigrants. I believe it is America's right to conquer and harvest any natural resource in any country we so choose and if anyone objects they can move to Canada


Neocons. LOl I love the word. It is nothing more than a media buzzword invented by the NY Times.
The NY Times is constantly attempting to leave there imprint on American cultr, specificly throug language use. Hey has anyone seen any INSURGENTS today. I heard they are knee deep in a QUAGMIRE.

So I guess I am a neocon because I want to double the size of GITMO. I believe in the Monroe Doctrine and would like to see Bush move the southern border 500 miles south and steal Mexico's oil to pay for all the illegal immigrants. I believe it is America's right to conquer and harvest any natural resource in any country we so choose and if anyone objects they can move to Canada


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Mexico's oil is pledged to the banks. Remember Clinton's bailout? And Canada has more oil and it's not mortgaged.

Might want to brush up on your imperialism timbci. You're as hopeless as Bush.

Walt,I see you still have Tosser on your list. Didn't he state that he supports Bush and opposes Obama, or at least believes Obama would be a disaster for us? Given he's a foreigner, I doubt that makes a liberal.


"If you aren't a liberal, you are something else."

Jeez, Goat, didn't he state that he made that statement in the context of his overall point, that libs are not in the majority. The way to show that would be to list all those who are not libs. As he has done. I think you need to give him a break when he gets things right.

BBoB,

You lose.

Try again next time.

Cheers Libs,
Walt

Given he's a foreigner, I doubt that makes a liberal.

That almost certainly makes him a liberal.

Look at Europe.

What is your point FYI? BB says this site is conservative because most of the posters are conservative. I think that has been disproven, don't you agree? I will take Tosser off the list and it will still be disproven.

Cheers,
Walt

"Neocons. LOl I love the word. It is nothing more than a media buzzword invented by the NY Times."

Actually, you might want to mention that to Joshua Moravcik. He recently wrote an article about how neocons can still win. And used the term "neoconservative".

"The first major neoconservative to embrace the term was Irving Kristol, in his 1979 article "Confessions of a True, Self-Confessed 'Neoconservative.'" Another source was Norman Podhorets, editor of Commentary magazine from 1960 to 1995. By 1982 Podhoretz was calling himself a neoconservative, in a New York Times Magazine article titled "The Neoconservative Anguish over Reagan's Foreign Policy"." Wikipedia)

Mr Fair is right of center--you forgot one Bob.
It's about even.
Murphy
Posted by MURPHY


Murphy - thanks for remembering me. Yes I admit I lean to the Right but I do hope the fact I didn't immediately spring onto anyone's list is a result of my having worked very hard to live up to my name.

Actually, I have been thinking of changing my name because I cannot be 100% impartial. How do I go about changing my name?

Walt, BuffaloB didn't start out saying this was a conservative site. Just that it wasn't a liberal one. You do notice the difference, right?

"That almost certainly makes him a liberal.

Look at Europe."

Walt, I have looked at Europe. Lots of conservatives there. Tosser supports Bush and opposes Obama. Is that the latest criteria for being a liberal?

Walt, BuffaloB didn't start out saying this was a conservative site. Just that it wasn't a liberal one. You do notice the difference, right?


Ever heard of evolution?

His current position is that because there are more right leaning posters this is a right leaning blog.

That has clearly been disproven.

This is Not a Liberal Site

=False.

Cheers,
Walt

Well, I woke up this morning and I'm still a little right of center. Nothing's changed.

Ozark Son you need to get current.
Mexico repaid the $12.5 Billion loan in 1997, three years ahead of schedule. I remember Clinton an Rubin announcing it in the Rose Garden.

You might want to brush up on the 90's.
Furthermore, I am not aware of any large investment bank that still actively trades Sovereign Debt. Sovereign Debt was phased out in the early 90's when Bank Loans became a viable business.

Mexico has collateralized the Loans to foreign banks in the past with oil but that is hardly a pledge. Collateral is swapped all the time. As a matter of fact. I did it today with BofA

Tosser supports Bush and opposes Obama

I would oppose someone who wanted to nuke me as well. You realize Tosser is a Paki yes?

Cheers,
Walt

to leave there imprint on American cultr, specificly throug language use.

Quite clearly that imprint isn't a threat to you.

I would oppose someone who wanted to nuke me as well. You realize Tosser is a Paki yes?

Serious Deja Vue.

Cheers,
Walt

Actually I got them all beat.
When I was born in 1970 my father named me Neo Conservative.

That is right. My first name is Neo and my middle name is Conservative and my last name is Supercalifragilisticespalidoco
us

to leave there imprint on American cultr, specificly throug language use.

Quite clearly that imprint isn't a threat to you.

Posted by YAV


FF!

Steve Martin: "Let's face it - some people just have a way with words and other people...um...ah...er...hmmmmm
m...um... not have way."

How do I go about changing my name?

Posted by MrFair


Just sign up with a new handle. You might have to get a new email to use while you sign up, depending on what restrictions rCade has programmed in.

Maybe you should be Ms Fair - that way you can always change your mind.

Well, I woke up this morning and I'm still a little right of center. Nothing's changed.

Posted by CalifChris at 2008-04-10 04:24 PM | Reply | Flag


I call B.S.

Care to answer a few simple questions?

Cheers,
Walt

Walt

Nothing has been disproven. What has been proven is that liberals are in a minority on this site.

If you care to dispute this, I suggest you lay out some criteria you would accept as proof and let's count them up.

I suggest going back for the last 24 hour period and count them up, but we'll use whatever time period you like.

Do you want to play or do you want to continue with you lies?

;-)

Maybe you should be Ms Fair - that way you can always change your mind.
Posted by OzarkAggie


Yes but think of the $$ to be spent on a new wardrobe.

"Ever heard of evolution"

Walt, the last post the Buffalo posted said:
"The statement was made that this blog has way more liberals than anything else.
That point has been disproven
Liberals are in the minority on this site."

What's the evolution there?

"You realize Tosser is a Paki yes?"

Walt, given that I busted his chops about that a couple of times, I may have gotten that impression. Doesn't make him a liberal.

Nothing has been disproven. What has been proven is that liberals are in a minority on this site.

What planet are you on?

I have been told that Libs far outnumber rightwing nutjobs on this site. Let's count and see.

The numbers are in. My last count is 100 libs. How many conservatives do you have?

Cheers,
Walt

CC,

Should we drill in ANWR?

Should abortion be legal no matter what?

When is war justified?

We all have the same opportunity to advance. T/F

Women and minorities are under-represented in corporate America. T/F

Wal-Mart is EVIL!!!! T/F

Man is causing the polar ice caps to melt. T/F

Man can prevent polar ice caps from melting T/F

The 2nd Amendment grants individuals the right to carry guns. T/F

Everyone should have access to health care. T/F

Nothing has been disproven. What has been proven is that liberals are in a minority on this site.

WTF?!?!

You posted 50 some odd names, I just posted 100 some odd names!

What the fuck are you talking about?!?!

Your assertion that it is mostly right wingers has been shot down and buried.

Cheers,
Walt

Walt

I could easily have 200.

The point is--do you want to go through the same time period, and be able to support your putting someone on your list.

You don't have a hundred non liberals on your list. You just have a list.

Big difference.

Now--do you want to set up some criteria for making a valid list or not?

I say you don't because you know you will be shown to be mistaken.

;-)

Smells like a litmus test to me. I'm allergic to litmus.

Walt

Got a liberal post from litlebritdifrnt? I've never seen one. How many on your list?

;-)

WALT

You're full of crap putting my name in with the likes of anti-American FURIO and some others on your list like Nullifidian who have made no secret about their dislike of my country.

Just because we don't ALL bow down at the altar of Bush, Inc. and we aren't all makiing big bucks off Bush's illegal "pre-emptive" war in Iraq does not mean we are all liberals. Those who do not worship and admire Bush and want his war in Iraq are much more American and love this country much more than those who do. Look in the mirror.

Your apparent idol Bush -- the guy you place your entire criteria for being a "conservative" criteria on -- wants to destroy this country with a NAU -- which I am firmly against. I am a protectionist when it comes to the U.S. Bush is a globalist. You like Bush and I detest him and his war in Iraq which is the ONLY reason you say I'm with the liberal camp.

Got news for you -- 82% of Americans do not want his war in Iraq and only 19% of Americans can even stand your boy Bush anymore. Bush's war policies may have been very good to you but Bush and his greedy policies both foreign and domestic stink for the rest of America.

Amen.

"anti-American FURIO and some others on your list like Nullifidian who have made no secret about their dislike of my country."
...
Posted by CalifChris


You're a moron. It's my country just as much as yours, and you confuse "country" with "U.S. government."

CC,

Please answer the questions I posed at 0446.

If I am wrong, I will formally apologize for considering you a lib. I realize how bad it is to be considered a lib and I do not want to unjustly label someone as such.

Cheers,
Walt

Walt, re that list you posted, "Should we drill in ANWR?" etc. Is that your criteria for being a lib or a con? I.E., how would you expect one or the other to answer the questions?

"Your assertion that it is mostly right wingers has been shot down and buried."

Bob didn't make that assertion. That's just a dishonest strawman.

Walt

CC never bitched about being on my list. Actually I didn't put him on my list until after he stated his position on this thread.

How many on your list now?

I consider my list the only valid list since I have stated the time period--all the posters are current---and I can point to posts that show consistent conservative thinking.

I have also taken people off my list because they proved to me I was mistaken as to their general position.

Who is Tampa, and can you show me where they are liberal?

Do you want to play a game?

;-)

Please answer the questions I posed at 0446.

Walt you got those questions from "truconservative.org/test." Use "truconservative.com/test."

No self respecting Conservative would use .org. That's a spoof site.

Yav, no idea what you are talking about.



Walt, re that list you posted, "Should we drill in ANWR?" etc. Is that your criteria for being a lib or a con? I.E., how would you expect one or the other to answer the questions?


Posted by fyi at 2008-04-10 04:57 PM | Reply | Flag


If 1 question was all I was worried about, I would have only posted 1 question.

Cheers,
Walt

It would be great if Rcade could put a SEARCH on his site to look up individual posters records of their posts.

Yav, so the point of that test is to identify a true conservative, yes? It's not to identify a lib or indep or libertarian?

Walt

Don't want to play??

;-(

Yav, no idea what you are talking about.

It goes to the quality of the questions you asked. How you define "conservative." It's as made up as the two sites I made up. Granted it was probably only funny to me, now that I reread it.

I actually care what CC has to say about my questions. (Which I asked on my own). The rest of you, well at this point I really don't care.

Cheers,
Walt

FYI, I have no idea who Walt's test would identify, but your read is much, much closer to the truth.

I just cliked on

truconservative.com

didn't see my questions.

Cheers,
Walt

There are about 56 links from Alterman to Yglesias to the Drudge Retort. I know the thread is about the number of posters leaning left or right. But anyone looking at this site will conlude it is liberal leaning.

"If 1 question was all I was worried about, I would have only posted 1 question."

C'mon, Walt, I had an "etc." in there. Know what that means?

Crispee OC

The same questions to Walt apply to you. You can either prove your point or STFU. Simple isn't it.

;-)

BB ~100 vs ~50.

Very simple.

Cheers,
Walt

They are simple questions. Nobody cares to answer, fine.

Cheers,
Walt


I'll take this on.

Should we drill in ANWR? YES!

Should abortion be legal no matter what? In most cases yes, not all and not taxpayer funded.

When is war justified? When a direct threat to our nation or its allias is certin. i.e. we should be at war with Mexico, not Iraq.

We all have the same opportunity to advance. T/F False. Everyone has there own set of abilities. A person with a lower IQ probably won't go into scientific research. Some people have better opportunities than others.

Women and minorities are under-represented in corporate America. T/F False

Wal-Mart is EVIL!!!! T/F To a degree yes. They should unionize to obtain better benefits and pay.

Man is causing the polar ice caps to melt. T/F False

Man can prevent polar ice caps from melting T/F False

The 2nd Amendment grants individuals the right to carry guns. T/F True

Everyone should have access to health care. T/F To a degree yes. If illegals can get it free why can't a US citizen?

You can either prove your point or STFU. Simple isn't it.

Point is already proven BB. ~100 vs ~50.

Cheers,
Walt

Damn 2112, was hoping to have someone to argue with.

But that was an easy test, yes?

No trick questions or anything.

Cheers,
Walt

Wal-Mart is EVIL!!!! T/F To a degree yes. They should unionize to obtain better benefits and pay.

Sorry. I disagree, my bad. Unions are evil.

Cheers,
Walt

Crispee OC

The same questions to Walt apply to you. You can either prove your point or STFU. Simple isn't it.

;-)

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-04-10 05:17 PM |


Did you even bother to read my post? If you did you wouldn't have stuck your little size 8 shoe in your mouth. Unless of course those 56 some odd links are not left leaning. If anyone should shut the f up it is you. Pants pissing scrub.

Everyone should have access to health care. T/F To a degree yes. If illegals can get it free why can't a US citizen?

OK it appears I do have someone to argue with.


Nobody should have free health care.


Chers,
Walt

Everyone should have access to health care. T/F

Obviously only those that can pay for it should have it. The rest should just die before they spread disease to everyone else. In fact, if they can't afford it, the Gov't should just shoot them before they become a possible health hazard to those of us that have money.

(can I be a conservative now??)

I agree health care should not be free (taxpayer funded), however I also take exception to ANYONE getting it free especially if they are illegal immigrants.

Case in point:

I took my wife to the hospital with what was later determined to be sever electrolite depletion due to a diuretic that was prescribed her. I talking I was scared. She was shaking and starting to convulse righ there. Nest to our area was a mexican with a broken arn, He would not tell them his name nor would he tell them what happened. I looked over at him then back to my wife and just fucking blew up.

I told those nurses that I was an American citizen and that I demanded they take care of my wife. I caused quite a stirr. Security was called but I kept it under enough control to not get detained.

I have not been that mad in a long time.



Walt, you say Unions are bad? I won't argue with you on this. It has been my experience that this is a go nowhere change no minds battle.

Anyway.........

Walt, re that list you posted, "Should we drill in ANWR?" etc. Is that your criteria for being a lib or a con? I.E., how would you expect one or the other to answer the questions?

Posted by fyi at 2008-04-10 04:57 PM


FYI -- As I posted upthread:



don't like bush
don't believe in war in iraq
believe in gay rights
don't believe in corporate welfare
don't believe in prayer in school
I'm an atheist
against capital punishment
against war on drugs
pro choice (1st trimester)
I compost, recycle, conserve energy
Have voted Democrat far, far more than I have republican (except for president)

This makes me a liberal, doesn't it? Yet for some reason the bOoB has me on the conservative list. What gives?

Obviously those that can't pay for it should have it. The rest should just pay for it before they spread disease to everyone else. In fact, if they can afford it, the Gov't should just charge them double before they become a possible health hazard to those who don't have money.

(can I be a liberal now??)

Cheers,
Walt

Seriously, bOoB -- I'd like to know what "test" you apply to determine if someone is liberal or not? Not that I give a shit what list you put me on, but why do you put me on the conservative list given the political properties I ascribe to and pretty much always have?

(can I be a liberal now??)

NOPE!!

Whenever The b00b is losing an argument, or his theory is proven wrong, he just claims victory. Don't expect him to change his mind. He's a degenerate of the first order.

Goat it is because if you display one characteristic that is not their own, you are a NE0-C0N!!! AKA Hitler! You must be a 100% Socialist or you are a Nazi! (no sarcasm there) DUUUUH.

Cheers,
Walt

NOPE!!

POSTED BY YAV AT 2008-04-10 05:52 PM | REPLY | FLAG


Why not? I just stated that if you can't pay for it, someone else should, even if that means that others should pay for it for you. What is wrong with that? Sounds like a lib to me.

Cheers,
Walt

"This makes me a liberal, doesn't it? Yet for some reason the bOoB has me on the conservative list. What gives?"

Goat, the Buffalo had botched things by then. He started out merely trying to prove that there are more "others" than libs on this site, but became enraptured by the "cons" list someone else had posted. Or possibly, being enamoured of argument, decided taking a new position would generate more argument. When I complained re being on the list, since I'm an indie, he seemed to recover and revert to his original position. How's that for a psych evaluation? Besides, you are his fav arguee, so ya gotsa be on the opposite list from him.

Goatman

The test is their posts. Like you. If you show me some posts that you think show you are a liberal I would take you off my list of not being liberal. Simple isn't it.

Do you want to declare yourself as a liberal?

Let's hear you say it. That would certainly be a post you could point to for making your case as being a liberal.

;-)

Nite all.

Cheers,
Walt

Will wait for more names on BB's list of conservatives.

Believing in nothing is as easy as closing your eyes.


I don't believe it.






Cheers

Temp record since 1880:
data.giss.nasa.gov

Average Dec, Jan, Feb temp 1951 - 1980: 57F

Dec, Jan, Feb 2004-2005: 59F
Dec, Jan, Feb 2005-2006: 58F
Dec, Jan, Feb 2006-2007: 59F
Dec, Jan, Feb 2007-2008: 58F

Same three months ending,
1885: 56F
1893: 55F
1904: 56F

BB you are proven wrong.

Let's hear you say it. That would certainly be a first. (Not you being wrong, but having you admit it :-)

Cheers,
Walt

Goatman

There is a "not liberal" list. And this thread started because of this post.


"bob, bob, bob.......... an overwhelming majority of folks on this site are libs. And they start the name calling...."


Posted by retnluvnit at 2008-04-03 07:10 PM | Reply | Flag


and he's wrong on the name calling also.

What is with this Grendal character?

Cheers,
Walt

Well, since I'm not on any of these lists that must mean one thing.

I am as "down the middle" as I've always claimed to be.

Yay for me.

20 year running average Winter temperature, F:
1980 57.2
1981 57.2
1982 57.2
1983 57.2
1984 57.3
1985 57.3
1986 57.3
1987 57.4
1988 57.4
1989 57.5
1990 57.5
1991 57.5
1992 57.6
1993 57.6
1994 57.6
1995 57.7
1996 57.7
1997 57.7
1998 57.8
1999 57.8
2000 57.8
2001 57.8
2002 57.9
2003 57.9
2004 58.0
2005 58.0
2006 58.1
2007 58.1
2008 58.1

data.giss.nasa.gov

"Fuck the b00b.

Posted by OzarkAggie"

How witty. 5 pages of whitespace followed by that.

How witty. 5 pages of whitespace followed by that.

Posted by nullifidian

No kidding. Like Rcades server with it's whopping 16Kb of memory needed that.

RCade,

I have a suggestion. Would it be too difficult to have a survey question of the week that appears on the front page? The question could be suggested by anyone visiting the site. However, one would have to be a registered user to vote and a person could only vote once. We could click on to see the (anonymous) results during and after it was done.

The first question could be one that might satisfy BB's curiosity in regard to how we label ourselves.

Survey #1

Do you consider yourself:

A. Liberal (politically left)
B. Conservative (politically right)
C. Middle leaning left
D. Middle leaning right
E. none of the above.

Good idea or not?


Cheers

OZ--That was a bit rude...

And the thread was that this was a liberal site based on the number of posters who lean one way or the other.

BB wanted a count--a count was given and BB wants to change the rules.

Are you a member of HRC campaign? How about Obama?

BB--This is a more lean to the left site than lean to the right site..

That's because Rcade leans to the left--and he runs the front page--and the list of links--all of which lean to the left.

If we went by threads--any day of the week it is 90% to the left stories--would you agree?

Murphy

Walt

Still talking out your ass I see. Even after cowardly refusing my challenge.

www.kippengrabbelton.be

Come on--get some balls.

www.fotosearch.com

;-)

liberal (lbr-l, lbrl) adj.

1. a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.

b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.

c. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.

d. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.


2. a. Tending to give freely; generous: a liberal benefactor.

b. Generous in amount; ample: a liberal serving of potatoes.


3. Not strict or literal; loose or approximate: a liberal translation.


4. Of, relating to, or based on the traditional arts and sciences of a college or university curriculum: a liberal education.


5. a. Archaic Permissible or appropriate for a person of free birth; befitting a lady or gentleman.

b. Obsolete Morally unrestrained; licentious.

n.1. A person with liberal ideas or opinions.

2. Liberal A member of a Liberal political party.


after giving it much thought...perhaps bluffalo meant to ask if this were a LEFTIST or a conservative site. it's definitely leftist. i find that i'm liberal in many areas, but nearly NEVER leftist in any.

something to think about now that we've wasted this much space on such an event? we may have been duped.

still - my list stands as to those who i now consider LEFTIST rather than liberal. my apologies.


Murphy

I wanted to change the rules? No. You lie. You are a liar.

;-)

I wanted to have the cons set the rules--of course the cons never want to have any rules.

My point is proven. All challengers have been proven liars or cowards or both.

;-)

Axiom

If you don't claim to be a liberal, you belong on my list.

My list is for people who are not liberals.

1. Wisgod 2.Rob the A Hole 3.Ride On 4. Rightisright 5. Nanc 6. Farmer John 7. OzarkAggie 8. Grendel 9. Murphy 10. Kris P Bacon 11. Litlebritdifrnt 12. Oohrah 13. Kuma 14. Salamandagator 15 Walt 16. Sniper 17. Joe 18. AndreaMackris 19. Spielmannsfluch 20. Pragmatus 21. Pinche Mao 22. Jeff J 23. Petrous 24. Crispee OC 25. kerrin57 26. Newjasman 27. TakeitEZ 28. Everlong 29. Bushlovertwo 30 Jestgettinalong 31. Pirate 32. Goatman 33. KBM 34. Legio 35. 08R4EVER 36. JonRyker 37. Sickolibs 38. Boaz 39. JoeLabey 40. JMJF 41. HagbardCeline 42. KWRX25 43. SE4NY6969 44. Cookfish 45. 101Chairborne 46. Johnson 47.Crackpipejunkie 48. MSGT 49. Jacque Strap 50. retnluvnit 51. Califchris 52. Armyof1 53. MikeWarrior 54. Moomanfl 55. Ray 56. Jsprague 57. 2112 58. Member 59. RightoCenter 60. Axiom

Nanc

Your list is as invalid as your logic.

But how about you set the criteris for the list and lets play a game.

;-)

Still waiting on that apology from you bob

Bob lets review

I am pro choice
I am pro environment
I am pro Obama
I am anti McCain
I am pro gay unions
I am pro separating church and state
I am anti gun
I am pro the liberal arts

on the other hand

I am pro the troops
I am pro the war on terror
I am pro fiscal responsibility

Given that scenario I believe that makes me what I said I was the day I joined this site. I am a republicrat or a democan (which ever way you want to put it). The test we all did the other week put me slightly to the left of centre. Most of the other posters on this site can actually recognize that, why can't you?

Litlebritdifrnt

Are you saying you are a liberal? Let's hear you say it.

If you aren't a liberal--you belong on my list.

BBOB

I'm curious about the method of numbering you used.
Goatman is right in his comment below because from the list he posted, Goatman apparently is more liberal than I am.
( I put in parentheses the issues where I am more conservative).

So how come I'm numbered much further down the list (#51) than Goat (#32)? Is the degree of being a conservative necessarily listed in order by number, i.e., #1 being the most conservative? Just wondering if how you number the names has anything to do with degree of being conservative.


don't like bush
don't believe in war in iraq
believe in gay rights (I'm not for gay marriage)
don't believe in corporate welfare
don't believe in prayer in school (I do)
I'm an atheist (I believe in God)
against capital punishment (For capital punishment in certain cases)
against war on drugs
pro choice (1st trimester)
I compost, recycle, conserve energy
Have voted Democrat far, far more than I have republican (except for president)
(I have voted about 50/50 with both parties)

This makes me a liberal, doesn't it? Yet for some reason the bOoB has me on the conservative list. What gives?

Posted by goatman at 2008-04-10 05:42 PM

"Most of the other posters on this site can actually recognize that, why can't you?"



Lack of higher brain function?

Walt --

Will get back to your list of questions for me a little later on tonight. Haven't forgotten you! Just have to run now and do some stuff.

American

"bob, bob, bob.......... an overwhelming majority of folks on this site are libs. And they start the name calling...."


Posted by retnluvnit at 2008-04-03 07:10 PM | Reply | Flag


The overwhelming majority of people on this site have been proven to not be liberals.

A liberal is proud to be a liberal and would not hesitate to say they are a liberal.

If your name is on my list and you are a proud liberal---tell me and I'll take your name off. Simple isn't it.

;-)

I say let's use the "Lou Dobbs Test"

I'm watching the Lou Dobbs show now on CNN

I always agree with 99% of what Lou Dobbs has to say.

Lou Dobbs is a registered independent.

So, what list does that put me on -- liberal or conservative?

Califchris

If you are a proud liberal--say so.

Did everyone on The b00b's list state that they are Liberals?

NO.

This just in--the b00b-mobile is for Sale!

This space ship is in excellent condition! Only 300 million Intergalactic miles, 4 passenger, no meteor dents, possibly needs reactor seals and recharged flux capacitor, 1 owner. Still have the original owners manual. Does have a wobble issue at Mach 12 but clears once it hits 15 not sure what that is but I lose the GPS screen for about a minute or so. Complete with bubble glass windows! Never crashed! For sale $3500 OBO. Clear title in hand, cash sale only, no trades and I won't take payments. Once it leaves the earth, I know you are not coming back so why would I??? DUH! It needs some TLC like an alignment and new landing sensors. Stored in a secure warehouse in Phx. Must sell City of Phx pressuring me, they say it's an eye sore?? It's on my front lawn and it's burnt the grass last year when it was running, I have the re entry burners turned up to kill the termites and scorpions when landing. Internet Capable

Cali,

Your a moderate conservative DEMOCRAT and there is nothing wrong with that.

OzarAnnie

The people on my list are NOT liberals. That's why you are on it.

dUmMy.


The b00b in drag


If you don't claim to be a liberal, you belong on my list.


How quaint.

So, according to your standards, there are only two ways to be judged.

"You're either with us liberals or you're with the Republicans."

That there is a familiar quote. Where did I hear it before? Can you help me, bob?


A liberal is proud to be a liberal and would not hesitate to say they are a liberal.


I'm far prouder of not belonging to either party and having an opinion on matters that is not regurgitated at me from a television, website or radio.

I'm making my own list, it only has one person on it right now.

Axiom's list of 100% Asshat:

Buffalo_Bob

BB,

Ozark, mikewar, calic are liberals, you just don't seem to pay enough attention.

They are conservative but liberal.

I like the list though, when they are all in one place it is easier to see the alter ego of those who post WOBishness.

Axiom

Some people are proud to be wishy washy. Not me. I make a statement and make a stand. You aren't a liberal by your own admission. You belong on my list.

;-)

"I make a statement and make a stand."

Wherever you are told to.



Wow 600 comments on this and still bob can't understand. Maybe he is just a lost cause.

Still waiting, by the way, bob. Just a little "i'm sorry, you are not a lair i was wrong" would do it. C'mon stand up be a man, i dare ya.

moneywar

They don't seem to think they are liberals. Maybe they know more than you.

;-)

What amazes me is how much thought so many give to labels. I've been on this site for years and I see names I hardly ever heard of. Some of you must live on this site.

We some different lists:

Entertainment Weekly's "The Top 50 Cult Movies"

From Entertainment Weekly's cover story of May 23, 2003: "...most died at the box office, some of them horribly. Mangled and despised, they were re-animated on video. And now they compose our cultural Esperanto, a subliminal vocabulary of vaguely subversive images, ideas, and phrases that we continue to obsess over and dissect at parties, around watercoolers, in bars, over the blaring banalities of the mainstream media din. They are Cult Movies ... So if you take your dead evil and your buckaroos banzai-ed, pour yourself a tall glass of Kool-Aid and peruse this list complete with signature lines and a near Talmudic trove of trivia."
(found at:
www.filmsite.org)
1. This Is Spinal Tap
2. The Rocky Horror Picture Show
3. Freaks
4. Harold and Maude
5. Pink Flamingos
6. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre

7. Repo Man
8. Scarface
9. Blade Runner (The Director's Cut)
10. The Shawshank Redemption
11. Five Deadly Venoms
12. Plan 9 from Outer Space
13. Brazil - Criterion Collection
14. Eraserhead
15. Faster Pussycat Kill Kill
16. The Warriors

The test is their posts. Like you. If you show me some posts that you think show you are a liberal I would take you off my list of not being liberal. Simple isn't it.

I don't care what list you put me on or take me off. You act like we all beg to be "taken off your list". Don't flatter yourself.

As far as a post that shows that I have liberal qualities -- this one. I listed qualities I have that are unarguably liberal. Twice.

Simple, isn't it? -- that is if you learn to use your PGUP key which still baffles you it would seem.

(PGUP, bob, PGUP)

Goatman

I could give a shiat less if you quit breathing. What makes you think I care a fart in a hurricane about you or anything or anyone you know.


How about this. STFU forever.

;-)

I could give a shiat less if you quit breathing. What makes you think I care a fart in a hurricane about you or anything or anyone you know.


I take it you don't have an answer to the reasons behind your arbitrary list then, huh? Or why my liberal qualities don't make me a liberal.

OK. I really didn't expect one.

ow about this. STFU forever.

I can be bought.

How do I go about changing my name?

Posted by MrFair



You could start by consulting Boyd.

He knows a little something about changing names on the DR.

Goatman

I take it you can't say you are a liberal. The reason people are on my list is because they aren't liberals. Anyone who has objected so far has said they were liberals and backed it up with their posts.

Liberals are proud to be liberals.

Here's Goatman in Chenney's glasses:>)



Cheney With Alien? ? ? A Hand Holding A Fishing Rod? ? ?

Could be could be! You be the judge!

"All I know is everything you know is wrong." - The Firesign Theater

The comments are a hoot-and-a-half. People's filters are so obvious.
The "Full Spectrum"

BoingBoing link
www.boingboing.net

Original
www.whitehouse.gov

WALT

I actually care what CC has to say about my questions. (Which I asked on my own).

The rest of you, well at this point I really don't care.

Posted by Walt at 2008-04-10 04:46 PM


Okay, Walt, I promised to get back to you so here are my answers.
But, I have reserved the right to give a very brief reason as to why I answered one way or the other -- even though being "brief" is never easy for me. (grin).

CC,

Should we drill in ANWR? --


NO. I agree with the proposed newer method of extracting the oil (horizontal drilling) but the fact is there's only a 6 month supply of oil in Anwar so it's not worth the destruction it would cause the environment for such a short supply.

Should abortion be legal no matter what?

Not legal after the first trimester --
unless not having an abortion after the first trimester would kill the mother due to medical complications.
I believe the decision for having an abortion at all should only be decided by the woman, her doctor, and in most cases the father (if he sticks around long enough) and possibly family members in the case of the pregnancy involving a minor.

When is war justified?

Only when our country has been attacked first.
I do not believe in the Bush doctrine of "pre-emptive war" -- especially when it's recklessly and intentionally waged on false and scanty intel and for purposes of war profiteering.

We all have the same opportunity to advance. T/F

TRUE.
Although as in everything in life, social situations, family connections, luck, etc. all do play a part making it easier for some than others.

Women and minorities are under-represented in corporate America. T/F

TRUE. Although it's much better than even 20 years ago, the glass ceiling still exists for women.
As for minorities, proportion-wise there may be under-representation but I'm not sure.
However I do not believe in affirmative action whether in the school or the workplace. I am 100% willing to pay for grants to cover the cost of higher education for low income students of all races who have the proven they have the grades but not the bucks to attend college. We as a country can afford it.

Wal-Mart is EVIL!!!! T/F

FALSE.
However, Wal-Mart is a greedy sob who personifies the essence of corporate globalism. Still, they are doing nothing more than they're legally allowed under the current Bush policy of letting the corporations and their lobbyists write all our govenments' federal rules and regulations. That includes corporations dictating all our trade policies which so far have been very lucrative for corporations like Wal-Mart.

Man is causing the polar ice caps to melt. T/F

FALSE -- for now. Not enough data has been collected and studied over a long enough time to accurately say global warming is directly due to mankind.

Man can prevent polar ice caps from melting T/F

FALSE -- for now. Same answer as above.

The 2nd Amendment grants individuals the right to carry guns. T/F

TRUE.

Everyone should have access to health care. T/F

TRUE -- but only for U.S. citizens.
Illegal immigrants are now allowed "emergency care only" by law and that should remain the policy. However, we should not be providing regular health care for free if they are in this country illegally.

Bob - okay I can see I am going to have to put this in very short words. I am not a liberal I am not a conservative "I AM LEFT OF CENTRE" you got that? I bet you rode the short bus to school didn't you?

FYI

1. Wisgod 2.Rob the A Hole 3.Ride On 4. Rightisright 5. Nanc 6. Farmer John 7. OzarkAggie 8. Grendel 9. Murphy 10. Kris P Bacon 11. Litlebritdifrnt 12. Oohrah 13. Kuma 14. Salamandagator 15 Walt 16. Sniper 17. Joe 18. AndreaMackris 19. Spielmannsfluch 20. Pragmatus 21. Pinche Mao 22. Jeff J 23. Petrous 24. Crispee OC 25. kerrin57 26. Newjasman 27. TakeitEZ 28. Everlong 29. Bushlovertwo 30 Jestgettinalong 31. Pirate 32. Goatman 33. KBM 34. Legio 35. 08R4EVER 36. JonRyker 37. Sickolibs 38. Boaz 39. JoeLabey 40. JMJF 41. HagbardCeline 42. KWRX25 43. SE4NY6969 44. Cookfish 45. 101Chairborne 46. Johnson 47.Crackpipejunkie 48. MSGT 49. Jacque Strap 50. retnluvnit 51. Califchris 52. Armyof1 53. MikeWarrior 54. Moomanfl 55. Ray 56. Jsprague 57. 2112 58. Member 59. RightoCenter 60. Zatoichi

My mistake. I should have read more than just one post. Sorry.




Posted by Buffalo_Bob


FF


"TRUE -- but only for U.S. citizens."

Chris can we change that to US citizens and legal resident aliens for my sake? I am pretty much the same as a citizen (ie paying taxes etc.,) its just I can't vote, or be a notary. I think if I am a legal resident who pays taxes I should be included in the whole medical care thingy.


Okay, Walt, I promised to get back to you so here are my answers.
But, I have reserved the right to give a very brief reason as to why I answered one way or the other -- even though being "brief" is never easy for me. (grin).

CC,

Should we drill in ANWR? --

NO. I agree with the proposed newer method of extracting the oil (horizontal drilling) but the fact is there's only a 6 month supply of oil in Anwar so it's not worth the destruction it would cause the environment for such a short supply.

Should abortion be legal no matter what?

Not legal after the first trimester --
unless not having an abortion after the first trimester would kill the mother due to medical complications.
I believe the decision for having an abortion at all should only be decided by the woman, her doctor, and in most cases the father (if he sticks around long enough) and possibly family members in the case of the pregnancy involving a minor.

When is war justified?

Only when our country has been attacked first.
I do not believe in the Bush doctrine of "pre-emptive war" -- especially when it's recklessly and intentionally waged on false and scanty intel and for purposes of war profiteering.

We all have the same opportunity to advance. T/F

TRUE.
Although as in everything in life, social situations, family connections, luck, etc. all do play a part making it easier for some than others.

Women and minorities are under-represented in corporate America. T/F

TRUE. Although it's much better than even 20 years ago, the glass ceiling still exists for women.
As for minorities, proportion-wise there may be under-representation but I'm not sure.
However I do not believe in affirmative action whether in the school or the workplace. I am 100% willing to pay for grants to cover the cost of higher education for low income students of all races who have the proven they have the grades but not the bucks to attend college. We as a country can afford it.

Wal-Mart is EVIL!!!! T/F

FALSE.
However, Wal-Mart is a greedy sob who personifies the essence of corporate globalism. Still, they are doing nothing more than they're legally allowed under the current Bush policy of letting the corporations and their lobbyists write all our govenments' federal rules and regulations. That includes corporations dictating all our trade policies which so far have been very lucrative for corporations like Wal-Mart.

Man is causing the polar ice caps to melt. T/F

FALSE -- for now. Not enough data has been collected and studied over a long enough time to accurately say global warming is directly due to mankind.

Man can prevent polar ice caps from melting T/F

FALSE -- for now. Same answer as above.

The 2nd Amendment grants individuals the right to carry guns. T/F

TRUE.

Everyone should have access to health care. T/F

TRUE -- but only for U.S. citizens.
Illegal immigrants are now allowed "emergency care only" by law and that should remain the policy. However, we should not be providing regular health care for free if they are in this country illegally.

Posted by CalifChris

Damn! I agree with CC answers here!

Goat, you should know by now that The b00b is not a liberal - none of the liberals claim him because he's an asshole and that's a separate category all together.

The liberals think I'm conservative and the conservatives think I'm liberal. I'm proud not to associate with either one.

Chris can we change that to US citizens and legal resident aliens for my sake?

As long as you kneel to the Bitch of Windsor you deserve nothing that she doesn't provide.

Still #1. The only thing Buffalo_Bob has gotten right since conception.

I take it you can't say you are a liberal.

You are right. I can't say that because I am moderate.

Liberals are proud to be liberals.

duh. People seldom remain something they aren't proud of if they can change it. Thanks for the pearls of wisdom, bOoB

Oz - I expected nothing less from you, glad you didn't dissapoint.

I could give a shiat less if you quit breathing. What makes you think I care a fart in a hurricane about you or anything or anyone you know.

----

Add Bob to the conservative list. He just proved it by that post. Conservatives don't care about others.

Add Bob to the conservative list. He just proved it by that post. Conservatives don't care about others.

LOL

Pirate dissects, types, previews, posts...and he scores!!!


glad you didn't dissapoint.[sic} little twit

Haha...always striving to meet or exceed expectations.

WALT:

found a couple of mistakes on your most recent list (31,92,93) at 2008-04-10 03:58 PM

Updated list:

1 Rcade 2 twinpac 3 hans 4 alex 5 boyd 6 klifferd 7 odie1kenobie 8 larry 9 sambarber 10 sanantoniorogue 11 taxman 12 danforth 13 redlightrobot 14 bani 15 buffbob 16 spud 17 $war 18 nullifidian 19 axe 20 reagan58 21 berkley 22 dcinma 23 commonsense 24 americanunity 25 briwo 26 manypaths 27 northguy 28 frank55 29 argh 30 townandcountry 31 roma 32 truthhurts 33 silver ironist 34 sagmain 35 roybatty 36 corky 37 leftcoastlawyer 38 denise 39 vickithebrit 40 revdarko 41 r8rh8r 42 moder8 43 yav 44 danni 45 gz 46 dave 47 midiman 48 kinghthawk 49 726 50 sitdown 51 herm 52 dylanfan 53 theperfectstorm 54 tedbaxter 55 zed 56 redneckvill 57 resnwerks 58 donnerbory 59 rastacyborg 60 apololypto 61 mistakurtz 62 keith204 63 bigjohn1972 64 nutcase 65 ness gadol 66 celisary 67 wtf 68 Tosser 69 Furio 70 Messiah 71 Herm 72 CalifChris 73 AngryDad 74 AllieKat 75 Rheinhieitsgetbot 76 Karen 561 77 Dawnglo 78 DragonLady 79 Treesgonewild 80 Jcash...alias Jomama 81 Katieberry 82 trueblue 83 blueinbushland 84 darthcheney 85 shotguncheney 86 kgbkeeper 87 Tigerbalm 88 litlbritdifnrt 89 Jsprague 90 Tampa 91 Gitmboy 92 montecore 93 tfdnihilist 94 lipizoidal 95 Gal Tuesday 96 liberalbadass 97 Dumb_as_Rocks

I am no doubt conservative, with the only difference is that I am pro-abortion. A woman should have that choice, but I would rather the father have a say in it too...

Oz - I am sure you can tell me, in your own eloquent way, why I as a legal, tax paying resident of this great country, should be excluded from a national health care system. The fact that I have decided not to become a citizen should not make me any less than those who legally live here, work here, and pay taxes. I was born a Brit, I will die a Brit. Tell me that you would not feel the same should you for some reason move to another country.

Tell me that you would not feel the same should you for some reason move to another country.

If I were to move to another country I would adopt it as mine. I've thought of it. In fact dual citizenship would be an option in my case, as it is for yours.

Belly up to the bar or take your drinks outside.

BBOB

I guess I'm about post number 630. Think we can bust the 1000 post mark
like AU and a few of us did that night on one of your "truthseeker" threads?

"Nanc

Your list is as invalid as your logic.

But how about you set the criteris for the list and lets play a game.

;-)

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-04-10 07:04 PM | Reply | Flag: doesn't have a clue"

why do you say that?

what is the criteria for THE LIST?

you seem to draw much attention, like the poop flinging monkey at the zoo - no matter how hard a person tries, it's difficult to stay far enough away from that one cage - you're like that monkey, bluffalo.

or an accident scene.

or staring at midgets.

i was apologizing to you in the subtlest way i knew how and you didn't get it.

this is my last comment on this subject.

why don't you define the rules of this game.

you seem to draw much attention, like the poop flinging monkey at the zoo - no matter how hard a person tries, it's difficult to stay far enough away from that one cage - you're like that monkey, bluffalo.

or an accident scene.

or staring at midgets.


ff!

Buffalo Bob owns this thread, and especially idiots like Nanc.

Buffalo Bob owns this thread, and especially idiots like Nanc.


Exactly why I love to watch the Puppetmaster at work.

"Dance, dance, for me" says the Puppetmaster

"Dance, dance, to my tune."

And they do.

But how about you set the criteris for the list and lets play a game.

;-)

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-04-10 07:04 PM

"what is the criteria for THE LIST?"

Posted by nanc at 2008-04-11 12:45 AM



Some people are just too stupid for words.

The liberals think I'm conservative and the conservatives think I'm liberal. I'm proud not to associate with either one.

Posted by Ray at 2008-04-10 09:13 PM | Reply


If you aren't a liberal you belong on my list.

Nanc

Several times over the last couple of days I have invited ANY conservative to choose whatever criteria they choose. I'll play by what ever you choose. No takers so far.

Several times over the last couple of days I have suggested criteris of 24 hours--three days as a window. Also, every poster linked by either list has to be verified if challenged. A poster on your list would have to verify they were liberal if asked or if not available, some of their posts shown. A poster on my list would have to say they were not liberal if asked, or if not available I have to show conservative views in theirposts when challenged.

That is what I suggest--but I will play to whatever criteria you say as long as they are equal to us both. Now, would you like to play, or open a large bottle of STFU?

;-)

...Now, would you like to play, or open a large bottle of STFU?

;-)

Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2008-04-11 03:17 AM


Now, would you like to play, or open a large bottle of STFU?

Binary bob strikes again.

Though the number 3 does snot exist in a binary world, that is the one I'm taking anyway. Option #3 -- sit back and laugh as the bOoB condtinues his laughable attempt to simplemindedly pigionhole everyone.

If you aren't a liberal you belong on my list.

That reminds me of a saying my grandmother used to have. "He's on my CS list. And I don't mean Chicken Salad".

If my grandmother knew you, bOoB, you'd be on her CS list.

Some people are just too stupid for words.

buffalo bob


I nominate this post to the Self Retorting Retort Hall of Fame.

Buffalo Bob owns this thread, and especially idiots...

He should consider ownership in Mensa stock instead.

Several times over the last couple of days I have invited ANY conservative to choose whatever criteria they choose. I'll play by what ever you choose. No takers so far.

I guess the conservatives are smart enough to know that there is litmus test or criteria to determine if someone is liberal or conservative. The conservatives probably also smart enough to know that there are more than two choices.

There is at least one liberal who through his ignorance disagrees on these two points and thinks everyone can be fit into one of two boxes: Liberal or Conservative.

'Tis amusing to watch, however.

As far as "play by what ever you choose" -- yeah, right.

I am pro choice. So is Spud.
I am pro environment. Agreed.
I am pro Obama. Agreed.
I am anti McCain. Agreed.
I am pro gay unions. Agreed.
I am pro separating church and state. Agreed.
I am anti gun. Pro Gun rights with sane restrictions.
I am pro the liberal arts. Laws yes!

on the other hand

I am pro the troops. Same same here.
I am pro the war on terror. Yup as long as you don't think Iraq is making anybody safer.
I am pro fiscal responsibility. Hell yeah, that's a liberal trait now the papers just haven't figured it out yet.

Other than the gun thing Spud's politics and LBD's tend to line up quite nicely.

But enuff of that... Toilet paper roll dispenses from the top or the bottom?

Spud sez Top!

Be Well.

Some people are just too stupid for words.

buffalo bob

I nominate this post to the Self Retorting Retort Hall of Fame.

Posted by goatman at 2008-04-11 05:32 AM | Reply | Flag:


I second the motion.

Cheers,
Walt

And who the fuck is this Grendel?

I am pro the troops. Same same here.

Posted by dethspud at 2008-04-11 07:17 AM | Reply | Flag


Bullshit!

You say that because you want to. You can't stand US or any other "troops".

You are a radical lefty who would only support the use of force if it was to wipe out emissions.

Save your "I support the Troops" BULLSHIT for someone who doesn't know any better.

You support the troops about as much as Muslims eat pork.

Cheers,
Walt

The only one here who opposes the troops clearly by their occupation and actions is you walt, so I wouldn't be so vocal about such things.

How about this money...


Fuck right off.


I am a former Army Captain.


I can speak about such things.


You are nothing.


Fuck right off.


Cheers,
Walt

Sorry Walt, was not trying to throw a big insult but was just pointing out the obvious.

I do usually enjoy crossing words with you. At least you seem to keep a little bit of a practical head about you.

I take that back. I am trying not to be abusive.

That being said, please explain how I am "opposing the troops". I would love to hear this.

Cheers,
Walt


The only one here who opposes the troops clearly by their occupation and actions is you walt,


Nailed it!


The only one here who opposes the troops clearly by their occupation and actions is you walt,


Nailed it!




Posted by Zap at 2008-04-11 08:03 AM | Reply | Flag


Explain yourself Troll


Cheers,
Walt

Keep in mind it takes me a while to download these threads. Especially long ones such as this. Delays in uploading are also the norm.

Cheers,
Walt


Keep in mind it takes me a while to download these threads. Especially long ones such as this. Delays in uploading are also the norm.



We have come to except the delays in your understanding.

LOL you still haven't come to terms with having sold your commission and becoming a mercenary..


LOL you still haven't come to terms with having sold your commission and becoming a mercenary..




Posted by Zap at 2008-04-11 08:16 AM | Reply | Flag


There you have it. Trolling at its finest.

LMAO. Zap, Troll Extrordinaire.

Mercenary(TM) Deflection.

Personal Attack(TM).

Nothing of substance.

Just another Troll.

Cheers,
Walt

Walt -- I've been accused of denying global warming and supporting greenhouse gas emissions by burning of fossil fuels because I am an Electronic Technician on an oil rig. The leaps of logic that some people on the DR make are very laughable at best, ignorant at worst.

Wish I could stay and watch this one play out, but I've got a helicopter to catch off this evil rig. In 2 hours I'll be at the New Orleans airport with a Bloody Mary.

Cheers.

Goat,

Somehow, I think the hatred that exists between you and the DR left is far less than what I have to deal with.

I appreciate the analogy, but I don't think you really know what I have to put up with.

Cheers,
Walt

Stay safe bro,

Remember those roll over drills!

Cheers bro!


Mercenary(TM) Deflection.

Deflection, not at all you have made your career choices very clear.

As for personal attack, well did you not sell yourself and your training. What loyality to cause does that show? Loyalty to personal greed above duty.


Zap,

(((Self Deleted Comment)))

I wish I could I buy you a pint of beer. I might even let you finish it. Then I would take the empty glass and crack it across your ignorant forehead and use the shards (((Self Deleted Comment)))

Cheers,
Walt

(((Self Deleted Comment)))

Thank God for cyber-space.

Cheers,
Walt

As for personal attack, well did you not sell yourself and your training.


Do you hold the same disdain for someone who moves from Microsoft to IBM? What about from AT&T to Sprint? Do you expect those people to stay in the exact same jobs forever?

Heaven forbid a soldier gets out of the service and makes more money. They should stay in the Army and rot until they are dead!!!!!!

Cheers,
Walt

Posted by Walt at 2008-04-11 08:36 AM | Reply | Flag

I take that back.

Going to watch a movie now.

Cheers,
Walt

I do usually enjoy crossing words with you. At least you seem to keep a little bit of a practical head about you.


Posted by moneywar at 2008-04-11 08:02 AM | Reply | Flag:


Then why resort to trolling?

Cheers,
Walt

Save your "I support the Troops" BULLSHIT for someone who doesn't know any better.

You support the troops about as much as Muslims eat pork.


Trolling Walt, really! Come now, be sensible.

Trolling Walt, really! Come now, be sensible.

Posted by moneywar at 2008-04-11 09:21 AM | Reply | Flag


Yes. Trolling. You are a troll.

What point have you made other than trolling my ass? My point was directed at Spud and you came in and trolled.

Cheers,
Walt

And your trolling

Posted by moneywar at 2008-04-11 07:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

Spawned

Posted by Zap at 2008-04-11 08:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

You have proven yourself a Troll.

Cheers,
Walt

Zap,


well did you not sell yourself and your training. What loyality to cause does that show? Loyalty to personal greed above duty.


Walt served in the military for (going by memory of past posts) about 10 years and earned the rank of Captain during that time. During that time he developed marketable skills. He did his time and an opportunity presented itself whereby his skills and knowledge were valuable and he was able to secure lucrative (albeit a bit dangerous) employment.

The military markets itself as a stepping stone toward a lucrative career in a variety of fields.

101Chairborne is a vet who no longer serves but works in the private sector undoubtedly making reasonably good cash. By your logical construct, Chair is a "mercenary" also as he gained valuable skills during his military tenure and after his tenure was over he had the temerity to market said skills in order to earn a decent income for himself.

Speaking to the Walt-bashers in general now:

All of you use the word "mercenary" in its most base and perjorative sense. Your implication being that if an Iranian agent offered Walt a penny more than what he's currently being paid, he'd drop what he's doing and would take up arms against American troops - his services go to the highest bidder and thus fuck any loyalty to the US.

You all can fuck right off with that shit.

You all act as if Walt had a hand in starting these conflicts, just so he could personally profit. Bullshit!

In the private sector, a lot of companies outsource a variety of administrative functions so that said companies can focus on their core business. Ever hear of PEO's (Professional Employer Organizations) - these companies take on outsourced human resources functions. How about temporary worker agencies? Janitorial services? Etc? Well, the military is no different in this regard. Companies such as Halliburton (Walt doesn't work for Hal, BTW) take on certain functions so that the military can focus on it's core: Having its soldiers perform the role of soldiering.

It's painful to watch some of you lash out against a veteran, a Captain no less, out of sheer knee-jerk hatred toward something in which you don't understand - ignorance and emotion is what is driving this shit.

My wife has a cousin who was a naval pilot. As a child, he LOVED Top Gun and decided right then and there that he was going to be a naval pilot. He flew F-18's for 6 years. He retired from the service and now flies commercial airliners earning over 100k per year. I guess he's a "mercenary" too, right?

Get it straight: Walt is not some hired gun. He doesn't whore himself out to the highest bidder. He's an accomplished military veteran who happens to have marketable skills in a venue that some of you find distasteful. GET OVER YOURSELVES!!

Jeff J,

I am also an FAA Commercial pilot with an Instrument Rating, but that is just an aside.

Thanks for your eloquent defense.

These pukes have no idea. They think that once you sign up for the Army that you have to stay in the Army until you die, yet they themselves are unwilling to sign up.

It is the height of hypocrisy.

Cheers,
Walt


Jeff

Walt marketed himself to a privatized agent involved in the business of war. War is the business of Nations and not private industry. The privatization of war is a direct result of the volunteer military. Now I am not opposed to a volunteer military however it does have drawbacks and clearly we see one here in a need for a mercenary force.


All of you use the word "mercenary" in its most base and perjorative sense. Your implication being that if an Iranian agent offered Walt a penny more than what he's currently being paid, he'd drop what he's doing and would take up arms against American troops - his services go to the highest bidder and thus fuck any loyalty to the US.

Strawman

Walt,


Thanks for your eloquent defense.

I don't know that I'd call it eloquent, but it was my pleasure nonetheless.


These pukes have no idea. They think that once you sign up for the Army that you have to stay in the Army until you die, yet they themselves are unwilling to sign up.

Precisely. It's cool to be an artist or a trial lawyer pulling in huge bucks. But FUCK! If you were in the military I guess you should be forever relegated to pauper-status and should NEVER market any of your skills attained via the military, under any circumstance.



Cheers, Bro...and stay safe.



Zap,


Now I am not opposed to a volunteer military however it does have drawbacks and clearly we see one here in a need for a mercenary force.


A mercenary force?

What do you mean by that?


Are you suggesting that these guys are actively engaged in tactical combat missions?



Strawman


Maybe when applied to you directly- your own personal feelings on this - however, it's an accurate characterization of how some on this site attempt to portray Walt's employment.

If you'll notice, I took the time to move away from addressing you directly when I rattled that off.

Heaven forbid I use the skills I learned in the Army to make money. I must be a traitor or something.

I should be relegated to life on an M1A2 SEP for my disgusting involvement with the US military.

Oh you only served 1 year in Iraq? FUCK YOU!!! You should serve more!!! You should serve until you die!!!!!!!!

Enter the Lib ...
What? Have I served? No. But you, you are a swine for serving and I am a saint for calling you a swine even though I didn't ever serve. And if I did serve, I am only a saint if I complain about serving.

Cheers,
Walt

JJ,

Disengage.

These people are not worth the headaches.

Cheers,
Walt


A mercenary force?

What do you mean by that?


i.e. Blackwater and it ilk.

Maybe when applied to you directly- your own personal feelings on this - however, it's an accurate characterization of how some on this site attempt to portray Walt's employment.

Perhaps but certainly not from me or any I have read.

If you'll notice, I took the time to move away from addressing you directly when I rattled that off.

No sweat the best part of the DR is gaining others views.


PS on this being a Liberal site:

Of course it is most all are welcome here and not denied entry because they don't fall in line.

Nite all!

Cheers,
Walt

Hopefully Spud will post some garbage, long after the thread is dead.

Cheers,
Walt

"long after the thread is dead."

Hate to wake the dead, but this thread crossed the Great Divide long ago.

Later boys - I've gotta run.


If I don't make it back, have a nice weekend.

RIP

FF...Doc

"And who the fuck is this Grendel?"

Walt,
Grendel is one of the most erudite, knowledgeable and intelligent posters on the DR. Conservative re religious issues, anti-Iraq war, the rest he can speak for himself.

JeffJ,
I think people call Walt a merc to bust his chops. He falls for it, so they continue. Now, where it started, is a different issue. Kinda like with the Buffalo. You take a strong stand on the DR, slap others with putdowns, you become a target.

We are all mercenaries, whores, and sell outs in one way or another. Walt doesn't like to hear he is a mercenary, but facts are he is a mercenary. I see nothing wrong with that, but obviously Walt sees being a mercenary as something negative. I would do Walts job if given the oppportunity, and I doubt many would turn it down if given the same chance. He makes good money and has an interesting life. Just because he is a giant moron with an over inflated view of his intelligence is no reflection on his job. Like most republicans when they get a few bucks, they think everyome else who has less is stupid.

I see no one has accepted my challenge, and have instead decided to open a giant bottle of STFU. A wise move on the non liberal side for once.

Simple facts are, there are far fewer liberals on this site than other persuasions. Liberals are proud of being a liberal, and don't shy away from saying so. It seems conservatives like to hide behind other names or hesitate to identify with conservative thought. After the last 7 years. I can't blame them

Facts arem ny point was proven. Thie is not a liberal site--liberals are far outnumbered by "other".

Dang, I nailed that one.

"I have been told that Libs far outnumber rightwing nutjobs on this site. Let's count and see."

"Facts arem ny point was proven. Thie is not a liberal site--liberals are far outnumbered by "other"."

Hard to play when you keep changing the rules. Maybe one day you will understand. Besides you never played my game, the one where i prove you are a raving loony and then you apologize.

JeffJ

Terrific response you gave to everyone concerning Walt.
My Dad learned to fly in the USMC and, directly due to his military flight training, after leaving the Corp. was able to use his flying skills in the private sector where he worked as a private charter pilot, a test pilot for JPL, and later as a Captain flying for a major commercial airline.

In fact, one of the military's goals is to provide training and skills for its enlistees in a number of various and specialized fields to help serve its members well in occupations both within the military and later as private citizens in the workforce. Many men owe their civilian jobs to skills learned while in the military.

"I see no one has accepted my challenge"
--BOOB


Then you didn't read your own thread.

BTW, sweetie, you forgot to add me to your "list."

Somehow, I think the hatred that exists between you and the DR left is far less than what I have to deal with.

You are right about that of course, Walt. My point was the stupidity of the logical leaps some of the idiots on this forum jump to.

Wish I could stay and watch this one play out, but I've got a helicopter to catch off this evil rig. In 2 hours I'll be at the New Orleans airport with a Bloody Mary.

Cheers.


Posted by goatman at 2008-04-11 08:



Cheers to you too.

Facts arem ny point was proven. Thie is not a liberal site--liberals are far outnumbered by "other".

That the non-liberals outnumber the liberals says something about liberalism, doesn't it, bOoB? You are losing! hahahahahaha

Thanks, cc

sitting in a bar at the houston airport now with another flavor of bloody mary.

I love laptops and wireless!

Hope you're not flying American.

Continental. If it was American, I'd probably be sitting in Dallas now. Sitting a long, long time.

Walt --

I figured out why the liberals on this site hate you for the job you do. Even though you are doing the same thing you did as an officer in the US military you are making more money. That is their problem. Historically, the liberals have fed scraps to the lower classes to keep them subservient and dependent. They want the same with you. They'd rather you do your job for on a military payscale. But you have become "uppity" and bettered yourself. You are no longer and indentured servant. You are your own man. Liberals cannot stand that. The lose control of people like you.

I wonder if I'm a mercenary who sold out. I took 13 months of military training and used it to better my life as a civilian. That's exactly what you did as well.

Terrific response you gave to everyone concerning Walt.
My Dad learned to fly in the USMC and, directly due to his military flight training, after leaving the Corp. was able to use his flying skills in the private sector where he worked as a private charter pilot, a test pilot for JPL, and later as a Captain flying for a major commercial airline.

In fact, one of the military's goals is to provide training and skills for its enlistees in a number of various and specialized fields to help serve its members well in occupations both within the military and later as private citizens in the workforce. Many men owe their civilian jobs to skills learned while in the military.

Posted by CalifChris


my beloved Uncle who died by suicide over a year ago at the age of 84 was a former Pan Am captain who also flew in the Berlin Airlft after WW2:>)

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