Richardson is a good guy.

Carville is a traitor and a classless, scheming opportunist.

08ama '08.

Be Well.

As for Mr. Carville's assertions that I did not return President Clinton's calls: I was on vacation in Antigua with my wife for a week and did not receive notice of any calls from the president.

Anyone who believes this is fucking nuts...

Governor Richardson isn't told when President Clinton calls... What a stupid, stupid lie... what an asshole.

Richardson: Why I Endorsed Obama


Who gives a shit,fucktard? Like who gives a shit what Spud thinks,either? Richardson can vote like the rest of us,at least. Unlike Spud,who can't.

Richardson can vote like the rest of us,at least. Unlike Spud,who can't.

C'mon America's-worst, admit it, you can't vote either due to that felony conviction you picked up fer serial pinata fucking.

Be Well.

A-1st:

You see, they are more enlightened in Canada. Spud can fuck moose all the time and they let him vote .... only NOT in the U.S.

Here in the Real World the opinin of Spud is worthless and without meaning.

This the same vernon that was mocking spud's currency as "funny money"?

You know, the shit now worth more than our dollar?

"funny money" + vernon = FF

Canada is full of Moose fuckers...oh, and Bear fuckers.

Congrats Alex ... you got a FF from Spud!

Just remember though. He now thinks you are his one true friend.

Spud has a lot of friends here.

And who would you rather believe in this story, Richardson or Bill Clinton, who says (with a red face) Richardson told him five times to his (red) face that he wouldn't endorse Obama.

richardson is a back stabbing opportunist.

And who would you rather believe in this story, Richardson or Bill Clinton

Up until he said he was never told of President Clinton's phone calls I absolutely believed Richardson, and he made great points... he owes Hillary no support just because her husband helped him.

But to flat out lie that he wasn't told Bill called him... Come on? The idea of that being true is really just silly.

Most of you juvenile SPUD bashers couldn't afford to visit let alone live in Vancouver - one of the most expensive cities on the North American continent.

"Spud has a lot of friends here."

"Here," on the internet. He must be proud.

Richardson endorsed Obama because he wants a job. It's that simple.

give me a break......he has been dripping over the vp spot since the first debate and he sees that obama is going to be the one. this is not a democrat idea either as if they were both republicans, he would be the same.

but ACTUALLY....its the facial hair. as WE ALL KNOW. a beard is the sign of the devil.......(excuse me while I scratch my hairy chin)........

and after reading the article that carvile wrote, I dont blame him as much for being an asswipe, but

Most of you juvenile SPUD bashers couldn't afford to visit let alone live in Vancouver - one of the most expensive cities on the North American continent.

Posted by AMERICANUNITY


Every town needs janitors...

Richardson said it- his loyalty to his country is greater than his loyalty to the Clintons.

As one hopes anybody's would be.

Carvilles wife, a staunch Republican, uses inside information obtained from sweet baby James Carville to fuck the Democrats.

Richardson endorsed Obama because he wants a job. It's that simple.

Bingo.

No one is going to even comment on the obvious lie that he wasn't told of Clinton's calls?

Rob,
OK, so if he lied about receiving Clintons calls...so what? Is that really important?
I'm betting every person here has lied about receiving a call they didn't want to take, or has had someone lie to say they weren't there. Should we launch a Drudge investigation? What about this has you so jazzed?

Evilpolock:

And while I was truly torn for weeks about this decision, and seriously contemplated endorsing Sen. Clinton, I never told anyone, including President Clinton, that I would do so. Those who say I did are misinformed or worse.

If Richardson is lying in one instance... why should he be trusted in others?

Bill Clinton says Richardson told him flat out that he would not endorse Obama. In the above quote Richardson says he did not. One of them is lying. Richardson is obviously lying about not being told of Clinton's calls... so should he be trusted at all?

And could that at least explain why Carville/Hil/Bill are so pissed off at him?

I'm betting every person here has lied about receiving a call they didn't want to take, or has had someone lie to say they weren't there. Should we launch a Drudge investigation? What about this has you so jazzed?

Posted by evilpolock at 2008-04-02 03:12 PM | Reply


I imagine because it's such an obvious fucking lie.

It seems to me that the insult to the Clintons was intentional. I really don't even see why Richardson felt it necessary to endorse either candidate especially if he had told Bill Clinton that he wouldn't. Obviously, we aren't being told all the inside stuff about this. Richardson better hope that Obama gets the nomination because if it is Clinton his political future may be in doubt, he may end up having to actually do his job as governor.

"Who gives a shit,fucktard?"

Ah, the Republican mantra - however, it is put more succinctly by Dark Helmet Cheney - "So?"

I imagine because it's such an obvious fucking lie.


Posted by 101Chairborne

Am I just being a little naive about how this stuff works?

One is the Govenor of New Mexico the other is a Former President of the United States...

When I go on vacation even I get messages from the hotel or resort I'm staying at if I get a call from family... and I don't have a secretary, or a staff, or a press representative...

you've got Hillary telling ridiculous lies about sniper fire, you've got Obama saying he would have left his church, and now you've got Richardson telling an equally ridiculous lie... what the hell is going on?

OK, so he lied. Are you all shocked? Oh wait...it was an obvious fucking lie. I need to make sure and give this lie it's just due. Is he running for anything? Or are we now vetting those who endorse candidates? I'm betting Richardsons wife or kids has told a few lies. Anyone got a link to that? This is some silly shit girls...run along now.

Rob,
What is going on is politics...and no I am not trying to be condescending. I'm sincerely trying to figure out what the issue is with you and Chair.
Bush has lied, Cheney has lied, Rumsfeld has lied, Clinton has lied, you've lied, I've lied, hell, MAYBE, and it's a big maybe, Obama has even lied...once...possibly...

OK, so he lied. Are you all shocked?

Honestly, yeah... because its so obvious. Politicians lie all the time, but they're able to spin it or twist it so they're not really lying, even though they are. For example: Obama saying he doesn't take money from Lobbyists, but takes thousands from their wives. Technically he's not taking money from Lobbyists, in reality he most certainly is. But when I see lies like Richardsons above, or Clinton's sniper fire one... yeah it kind of shocks me a little.

OK, so he lied. Are you all shocked? Oh wait...it was an obvious fucking lie. I need to make sure and give this lie it's just due. Is he running for anything? Or are we now vetting those who endorse candidates? I'm betting Richardsons wife or kids has told a few lies. Anyone got a link to that? This is some silly shit girls...run along now.

Posted by evilpolock at 2008-04-02 03:23 PM | Re


Yes, in fact I am a little shocked that a politician that I had thought was pretty fucking smart would tell such a transparent and unneccesary lie.

You seem to be pretty defensive over this. Why?

Richardson could just be honest and say "I want power and Obama promised me more power than Hillary."

Who really cares about a man who could barely garner 1000 votes in a state primary election? What kind of moron would vote for a President based on the sole fact that "so and so" endorsed him?????

Richardson comes across as an ultra opportunistic politician who wants to hitch his simmering VP hope to the right boiling pot. That's why he waited to endorse - as he wanted to feel sure he'd be on the winning team.

Truth is Bill Clinton DID pluck Richardson out of political obscurity and gave him some good high visiblity positions. Granted it is Hillary that is running but there is no knowing how much she influenced Bill's decisions in this matter.

Regardless, Richardson DOES come across as smarmy to clearly avoid Bill's calls - I doubt too many pols will count on Richardson loyalty in the future.

- Does Richardson really believe his "elDiablo" beard improves his image? - or does it really make him resemble the Frito Bandito (anyone else remember that pre political correctness ad campaign??)

Bill Richardson is showing his true colors. He owes the CLintons. Who the hell would know who he is without the CLintons

Wow, when debating about whether Richardson or Clinton lied, people are giving the pathologically lying CLINTONS the benefit of the doubt?! Wow. Talk about delusional.

"I'm betting every person here has lied about receiving a call they didn't want to take, or has had someone lie to say they weren't there."

Nobody on drudge is running for public office. If they were, then yes, I would like to know about lies they have told as well. That was one of the worst deflections I've ever seen.

Chair,
Not defensive at all. I'm just surprised to see two of the most cynical bloggers here express anything except a yawn when a politician is less than honest.
Joe,
Yeah, it was a deflection...ya caught me...

"Kind of a dick move by Barack"

lol
riiiight

I'm just surprised to see two of the most cynical bloggers here express anything except a yawn when a politician is less than honest.

EP... Its not the lie necessarily that has me taking notice... its how obvious it is.

Its like Hillary's lie about sniper fire. Was I shocked that she would lie? No. Was I shocked that she would tell such an obvious lie that wasn't even close to true. Absolutely.

To get to Senator, President, Governor, Representative... you have to be able to play with the truth a little... but its rare that you catch them in just flat out lies...

lol
riiiight

Posted by klifferd


Look, I know you're a barack supporter, and no this isn't a big story, and yes the philadelphian was being pushy, but come on... just take the stupid picture. What was easier for Barack... having a back and forth with him for several minutes or standing there for 2 seconds tops while someone pushes a button?

Rob,
I understand what you mean about how unvarnished his explanation was. I guess I just expect it...except from Obama.

except from Obama.

Posted by evilpolock


How do you feel about Obama saying he doesn't take money from lobbyists but has received thousands from their spouses? Kind of skirting the line isn't it?

Did you see FactCheck's article about him and Oil money?

Or what about Obama saying he would have left his church if Wright stayed? Did you believe that? Cuz to me that was as obvious a lie as Hillary's sniper fire lie, or Richardson's there's no phones in Antigua lie.

"Look, I know you're a barack supporter, and no this isn't a big story, and yes the philadelphian was being pushy, but come on... just take the stupid picture. What was easier for Barack... having a back and forth with him for several minutes or standing there for 2 seconds tops while someone pushes a button?"


i'm suprised secret service didn't get him the second time around

"Kind of a dick move by Barack"

Does this mean FoxNews will be playing this clip endlessly with the caption: "Barack is a Meanie"?


I suppose though, this is progress for the blogworld, given that it's actually Obama's own words and actions that are being discussed for a change, rather than the words of his wife, pastor, endorser, etc.

i'm suprised secret service didn't get him the second time around

Posted by klifferd

All he wanted was a picture... annoying isn't cause to be escorted away.

Does this mean FoxNews will be playing this clip endlessly with the caption: "Barack is a Meanie"?

Its been a long time since I've watched one of the 24 hour news channels, but I would bet you can bank on it.

lol rob
he's running for president

and he's black

and he's got a decent chance at winning

for all we know annoying man had the secret muslim camera that explodes. ;)

Wobbie is upset because he mistakenly percieves Richardson as a liar?

Bwa hah hah hah hah hah hah hah!

Every time Spud thinks Rob can't possibly say sommat dumber than all the crap he's spewed to date the shit-fer-brains li'l wankstain ups the ante and sez sommat even stupider.

How do you do it, Rob?

Wot's yer dark secret?

Do you just keep whacking yerself over the head with a baseball bat until sommat toally deranged pops outta yer ignoranus pie-hole and then post it on the blog post haste?

First yer man crush on Team BushCo make you officially the biggest hypocrite on this site. Which is really saying sommat considering the competition you have with yer bretheren SNiPA. 101 Airhead, Timbit et al.

You do realise that Dumbya and Pals have pretty much done nothing BUT LIE to America from before they even took office right up until today?

Prolly not.

You live in the dark and tell yerself lies on a regular basis.

Richardson endorsed Obama cos Obama is the strongest candidate by far and has the numbers to back him up.

The Clintons have indulged in some pretty egregious tactics this campaign and many of them have backfired on them.

McCain is the most pathetic and unelectable candidate the Rethuglucoonts have fielded in a good long time.

He sucks so harshly even shithell R-tards can't stand him. His alleeged appeal to moderate is pure specualtion that will bear no fruit.

Does Richardson want a seat at the table after Obama gets elected? No duh. Is that the entire reason for his endorsement? Not even close.

Richardson is not only no liar he's also no dummy.

Richardson backs the right horse here.

08ama '08.

Si, se puente!

Be Well.

for all we know annoying man had the secret muslim camera that explodes. ;)

Posted by klifferd


Why would they kill their "Manchurian Candidate?"

LOL

rob
i knew you would say that :-P

cause muslims like to blow things up duh.

"The guy was being a little pushy but all he wanted was a picture... Kind of a dick move by Barack."

This asshole (not Barack!) is lucky the Secret Service didn't knock his fat white ass to the ground.

Wobbie is upset because he mistakenly percieves Richardson as a liar?

Bwa hah hah hah hah hah hah hah!

Every time Spud thinks Rob can't possibly say sommat dumber than all the crap he's spewed to date the shit-fer-brains li'l wankstain ups the ante and sez sommat even stupider.

How do you do it, Rob?


Wot's yer dark secret?

Do you just keep whacking yerself over the head with a baseball bat until sommat toally deranged pops outta yer ignoranus pie-hole and then post it on the blog post haste?

First yer man crush on Team BushCo make you officially the biggest hypocrite on this site. Which is really saying sommat considering the competition you have with yer bretheren SNiPA. 101 Airhead, Timbit et al.

You do realise that Dumbya and Pals have pretty much done nothing BUT LIE to America from before they even took office right up until today?


Prolly not.


You live in the dark and tell yerself lies on a regular basis.

Richardson endorsed Obama cos Obama is the strongest candidate by far and has the numbers to back him up.

The Clintons have indulged in some pretty egregious tactics this campaign and many of them have backfired on them.

McCain is the most pathetic and unelectable candidate the Rethuglucoonts have fielded in a good long time.

He sucks so harshly even shithell R-tards can't stand him. His alleeged appeal to moderate is pure specualtion that will bear no fruit.

Does Richardson want a seat at the table after Obama gets elected? No duh. Is that the entire reason for his endorsement? Not even close.

Richardson is not only no liar he's also no dummy.

Richardson backs the right horse here.

08ama '08.

Si, se puente!

Be Well.

Posted by dethspud


I just felt like reposting the whole thing, because it so accurately steps out why Richardson wasn't lying. Its all so clear now.

I say Richardson is lying and explain why. You're retort: "You're stupid." Wow... I should have thought of that first... clearly Richardson is telling the truth... He's the Governor of New Mexico, Clinton is the former President... Of course there would be no way for the two to communicate while one was in Antigua. It would have been impossible. Thank you Spud for adding so much.

cause muslims like to blow things up duh.

Posted by klifferd

Everyone needs a hobby... Irish love beer...

Rob,
I'm sure you realize I was just being sarcastic about Obama never lying...

Carvilles wife, a staunch Republican, uses inside information obtained from sweet baby James Carville to fuck the Democrats.

Posted by nutcase a


come on nut....

I dont blame him at all for giving info to the little woman. we have all done A LOT WORSE for pussy.
and look at him....compared to cobraface, I look like brad pitt. so its okay with me. I understand.

"Si, se puente!"

Yes if bridge??

It's "Si, se puede"

It's "Si, se puede"

Muchos Gracias, Jomamacita

Spud's espagnol es hororoso & muy pocito

their "Manchurian Candidate?"

~NobGoblinWob

You talking about John McTaint again?

Seriously, if that guy ever makes to the WH someone dressed in Black pojamas will show up at first press conference and flash an Ace of Diamonds at him. Within 24 hours America WILL surrender to Vietnam.

Don't say you weren't warned! ^_^

Be Well.

"compared to cobraface"

hahahahha
wow he IS ugly isn't he

Rob,
I'm sure you realize I was just being sarcastic about Obama never lying...

Posted by evilpolock


LOL... I really am terrible at seeing sarcasm...

Sorry dude, I thought you were serious... in my defense though the cult like following Obama enjoys is the reason I thought that... which is what you were joking about too...

Sorry about that...

I'm sorry, but after seeing the parade of Gonzo, Scooter, Condi et al. put loyalty to W before their their country, it is refreshing to see someone break that mold and go with his conscience. Expecting Richardson to be in lock-step with them for past favors only adds to the list of similarities to the present administration: deliberate deceptions, planted questions, politics of fear, use of hatchet-men to attack their opponent, etc.

Richardson: Why I Endorsed Obama


Because Obama will win and I need someone new to take care of me. I already got everything I could from the Clinton's now it is time to flush them away and move on to my next meal ticket.

Richardson is nobody.

Richardson has a reputation for being as stupid as a doorknob, but he is Latino, and his endorsement may make what many Latinos disparage as the "mayate" more palatable to some of them.

There is a great deal of antagonism between blacks and Latinos extending from street gangs to the prison system, from the ghettos to the barrios, with "turf," control of drug distribution, and the like, among the matters at issue.

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-04-02 03:09 PM

No one is going to even comment on the obvious lie that he wasn't told of Clinton's calls?

Oh, I get it, you mean stupid lies that are certain to be discovered.

Well, possibly you're attributing too much "intelligence" to politicians.

Also, they may have underestimated the public's intelligence more than is merited, which would be hard to do.

I suspect that many women, whose mentality leads them to watch Oprah, will follow her lead and support Obama. Maybe voters should b e required to take an IQ test and their votes be expressed in IQ points. That would be an equalizer. What would become of the minority voting blocs influence.

Rob,

While on vacation I'll be contemplating who I'm going to endorse. I've had all the input I need so don't pass on any calls regarding my endorsement. Soon after I get back I'll announce my decision.

Bill Richardson

Plausible deniability has been the Republican way for seven years, now you get stuck over this inconsequential use of it by a Dem. Interesting.

TB, sorry but I simply don't believe that President Bill Clinton's calls wouldn't be passed on to Governor Bill Richarson...

He said in his message above he didn't receive notice, not he put his staff on notice not to pass along any calls. What you said could make sense... what he said does not.

Who gives a shit,fucktard? Like who gives a shit what Spud thinks,either? Richardson can vote like the rest of us,at least. Unlike Spud,who can't.

Posted by American1st at 2008-04-01 10:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

You care so little that you just HAD to come into the thread and post 4 sentences about it?

No one is going to even comment on the obvious lie that he wasn't told of Clinton's calls?

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-04-02 03:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

I think you're seeing the phone call through the eyes of the average American who would probably scramble to answer a phone it they knew the president was calling them.

He worked for Clinton for years and to him, maybe it's just another phone call to return. Also, have you considered that one of his staff dropped the ball?

You may be right about him lying, but there are other possible explanations.

With all due appologies to my Polish nieces, Nephews, Brothers-in-Law and Godchildren,
Are you being silly Evilpolock or do you really believe that Obama has maybe told ONE lie?

In case the latter is the case, let me list just a FEW of his lies -
Antoine Rezko only contributed $40,000 to my campaign. When that was proven a lie he revised it to $60,000, another lie. Then $80,000, again a lie. Then $120,000, need I say it - LIE. Then $140,000 and another lie. I won't bore you with further iterations but to say the toll is now at $240,000 and climbing. Also he lied in saying that ALL contributions from Rezko would be donated to CHARITY. After about the $120-140,000 mark the only charity the money is going to is the make Obama rich charity...

Enough about contribution lies.
How about Obama telling everyone that he was a Constitutional PROFESSOR? Another lie, He was a Constitutional LECTURER. Just as I am not a PROFESSOR of Relational Database Languages, but only a teacher and lecturer in Relational Database Languages. The two are very different from each other, to say the least.

Or how about his lie about the Kennedy Family paying to airlift Obama's Father from Kenya to the USA. Never happened. But you won't see over 100 political cartoons mocking HIS lies, like the lie Hillary told because the MSM is in love with this phoney and they hate Hillary.

Lets move on to lies that HURT people. Lets start with his vote to strip millions of dollars from a West Side Chicago Childrens Welfare Office. His answer? I hit the wrong BUTTON when voting! Doesn't it warm your heart that people want to give control of the button that can destroy all of humanity to a guy who can't pick the right button out of three simple buttons, yea, nay or not voting?
Sure makes me feel warm and fuzzy.
But don't forget those three little buttons because they will come up again and again in further lies by Mr Obama.

Next one, Riverboat Gambling. A bill to allow gambling when the riverboats are tied to the dock. He promised church groups that he would OPPOSE it. Another lie. He voted FOR it and it passed by TWO VOTES. His excuse? You know it, I hit the wrong button!

The day before the Riverboat Gambling bill he voted AGAINST election reform. The bill passed 51-6. "I hit the wrong button".

Feb 24, 2000 there was a bill to ban human cloning. There was only ONE vote against the bill. Guess who voted for human cloning and his excuse for why he did so...

How about something more current, like the ADs he is running in Penn right NOW? He says in his ADs that "I an Barack Obama and I don't take money from oil companies or lobbyists, and I won't let them blocj change anymore".
Need I say it? Another lie!
Not only has he accepted $220,000 in donations from the oil and gas industries in just the last TWO MONTHS but he has TWO oil company CEOs as fundraising leaders!

Last, but certainly not least, he has been harping on Hillary Clinton to release her diaries for the eight years she was First Lady. But he has REFUSED to release ONE SINGLE PAPER from his eight years as Illinois State Senator, and he never will. Why? Simple. REZKO and DAVIS, his two Slumlord buddies.

So eivilpolock, do you still say he MIGHT have told ONE LIE?

you've got Hillary telling ridiculous lies about sniper fire, you've got Obama saying he would have left his church, and now you've got Richardson telling an equally ridiculous lie... what the hell is going on?

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008


and lets not forget something obama lied about that the media does not want you to know.
the kennedys DID NOT PAY for his father to come to america like he and his campaign has said. his father was here a full year before the kennedys paid for a plane load of kenyans to come here.
wonder how much illegal booze was in THAT plane since the kennedy have been little more than bootlegging/women chasing/women DROWNING criminal bootleggers.

I won't bore you with further iterations but to say the toll is now at $240,000 and climbing

The details you don't wanna bore anyone with are these:

All the money that Rezko gave Obama directly has been paid back or given to charities.

The 250,000 figure is money Rezko helped Obama raise, not money given from Rezko to Obama and thus doesn't need to be given back.

Rezko gave waaaaaaay more money to BushCo and other rethugs over the years.

Professor vs Lecturer?

Ooh! Burn him at the stake!/snark>

Wot else ya got?

Or how about his lie about the Kennedy Family paying to airlift Obama's Father from Kenya to the USA

The Kennedies paid for the Kenyan airlift the year after the one that Obama's dad flew on. Hardly a lie, more of a stretch really.

Hit the wrong button three times?

Are you seriously thinking this is any way shape or form meaningfull?

REally? Think again.

Obama has corporate donors?

Guess wot snowflake everybody has corproate donors.

They are all corporate whores including Obama.

The difference between Obama and the other two is that Barack isn't a total sell out. In todays age of modern politics that's the best you can hope for.

Nothing you sed there ampount to more than a hummingbirds fart compared to the hurricane of graft, corruption, incompetence and elitist copnnections that come with either Hillarry or McCain.

You RTs keep thinking that all you hafta do is prove that Barack is no angel. Yer wrong. There are no angels. With that understood he's still miles and days better than either of the other alternatives.

Wot's yer solution, Shyboy?

Where's does your hope lie?

The shambling, mouldering corpse that is John McInsane or the Power Hungry Helldawg?

Wot's yer poison, sunshine?

Nader? Gravel?

Do tell.

Spud could use the larf! ^_^

08ama '08.

Be Well.

so now we have a definition of a lie.

lets see....depends on what IT is.....

well you know I bet there was sniper fire SOMEWHERE when hillary got off the plane

I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMEN>......(oh who can forget that classic, it just gets better with age, doesnt it potato(e) butt?????????

and now obama can get away with a lie about linking his family with the kennedys for nothin more than keeping the idea of a new camelot going.......but if the lie is in your favor, then its STRETCHING THE TRUTH........

okay but when the next dem comes out talking about a lie, remember what you just said......

he ,RICHARSON,bit the hand that fed him...he `s nobody...

Richadson is nothing.

He just hoping fr a job if obama wins, which he wll not.

Posted by dethspud at 2008-04-03 12:01 AM

From the mind of deth, master confabulator. By the way, since you seem so confused regarding basic terms, deth, the designation master confabulator is not a compliment, but rather reference to your inability to deal with and process reality.

The Kennedies paid for the Kenyan airlift the year after the one that Obama's dad flew on. Hardly a lie, more of a stretch really.

Hit the wrong button three times?

Are you seriously thinking this is any way shape or form meaningfull?

REally? Think again.

Obama has corporate donors?

Guess wot snowflake everybody has corproate donors.

They are all corporate whores including Obama.

The difference between Obama and the other two is that Barack isn't a total sell out. In todays age of modern politics that's the best you can hope for.

Nothing you sed there ampount to more than a hummingbirds fart compared to the hurricane of graft, corruption, incompetence and elitist copnnections that come with either Hillarry or McCain.

You RTs keep thinking that all you hafta do is prove that Barack is no angel. Yer wrong. There are no angels. With that understood he's still miles and days better than either of the other alternatives.

Wot's yer solution, Shyboy?