"This coronation ia harder that I expected."
-Hillary!

Spelin iz evean hardure.

Vernonn

So, we don't care because it isn't a battleground state, Texas won't matter in the general election, Hillary won the popular vote, wait until PA,or what? It's all so confusing, I need corky or seaton or whoever to explain it to me!

Obama wi;; win the dem nomination in a long bitter contest. Then he will be swift boated by an idiot preacher in the general election. Radical blacks just don't understand that they need white votes to win a general election.

Before the HC supporters declare TX "not important, unfair, blah blah"

Obama has won the state- 1.1 million people participated on the night of March 4th in their precinct convention- Obama had hundreds of thousands of more supporters willing to stand with him under very stressfull and difficult circumstances. Saturday his supporters again showed that they were willing to do more than pull a lever and go home to watch Idol or whatever. We were committed to stand again with him in very stressfull and uncharted circumstances and rebuild the Democratic party in Texas. Hillary could not deliver. Lump it if you don't like it but according to OUR STATE DEMOCRATIC PARTY rules. The winner of TX is our next President, Senator Obama! Don't mess with Texas

"Then he will be swift boated by an idiot preacher in the general election."

Au contraire, my dear Alphonse.

He will be swift-boated by lying liars who use the words of the idiot preacher to smear him.

Texas?
Not important.
No way.
Not at all.
Forget Texas.
On to Puerto Rico!
Yrs,
Corkscrew, Seaton Hall, Cookie Fish, Howie Wolfson, Marcus Penn

"Saturday his supporters again showed that they were willing to do more than pull a lever and go home..."

I think that has been the hallmark of Obama's campaign so far - his supporters are willing to get out and fight hard for their candidate. The organization and enthusiasm to go the extra mile have made all the difference, especially in the caucus states.

Hillary has never had that kind of support, doesn't have it now, and probably wouldn't have it in November. People are motivated by being able to be FOR something, not by being against something, or because the candidate feels entitled.

Obama can kiss my white ass!!!

Let me try to explain it to you, Jojomama, because Corkie's in wood shop class at the moment putting the final touches on the recipe holder he's going to give his sister on Mother's day, and, coincidentally, Mother Seaton is meeting with her parole officer.

Texas feels it did it's part as a battleground state with the Alamo incident a few years back. Until the other 49 can match that, Texas is taking a break. Especially as it concerns a woman and a colored man.

But more to the point, the dark ruling cabal wants you and everyone else confused about the matter of the delegates, so that when the count is forced to go to the convention, and utter chaos ensues, and everyone winds up hating everyone, Blue Dog conservatives will be able to walk in and take over. Charlie Melancon of Louisiana would be likeable candidate, running on a platform of casino jobs for everyone, but their main man, as you can probably guess by his name, is Steve Israel of NY.

And in case you're wondering, yes, Hillary has been in on the plot from the get go. She'll go down in exchange for a guarantee from the dark cabal that she gets a seat on the editorial board of the NY Times.

"Texas?
Not important.
No way.
Not at all.
Forget Texas."

As far as the general election is concerned...you're right! No way either of them will carry the Lonestar State.

Nice quote from Hillary in Pennsylvania, and You Know She It's a Lie. You Know It.

"I don't even keep track of it, I can't even tell you that figure," Clinton said when asked by Pittsburgh CBS affiliate KDKA how many superdelegates had endorsed her in recent weeks.

Can anybody imagine Hillary not knowing that figure? Out of the question.

"Obama can kiss my white ass!!!"

I like that 2112!

Maybe McCain can use that as his slogan this fall.

Then you can proudly slap the bumper sticker on your white ass and take a nice drive downtown.

"Especially as it concerns a woman and a colored man."

If Sagamain, aka "Dick Shiner" as a bit of investigation reveals, is willing to admit her part in the case of the Barking Blue Dog Dark Cabal Conspiracy, I think the Court's psychological judgement that her paranoia (and subsequent non-stop drooling) can only be cured via frontal lobotomy could be suspended.... oh my God!.... I see from her post that I am too late!

Sorry, my dear. I also note that the operation was only partially successful. Please, would you like a hanky?

"As far as the general election is concerned...you're right!"

We have more than just our Presidential candidate on the ballot this fall. We may...and I say may not win the top of the ticket (we won't if it's HC that is for sure) but we would like to retire Senator Cornyn and other Repug members of our congressional delegation. That will be much easier to do if we only have to make up a 5-10 point deficit on the top of the ticket (which I believe Obama can obtain) rather than the 20 that will happen if HC is the nominee- In my Carrollton TX precinct an example of how TX Dems are coming alive-

In 2006 the Democratic candidate for Governor Chris Bell received a total of 249 votes in my precinct in the general election vs Gov. Perry's 452

In 2008, our two major presidential candidates received a combined 522 votes from our precinct in the primary!
(Obama 297- HC 225)
I expect turn out to be higher in the General than that- BTW...I used to think my precinct was totally dominated by R's...not such much this year.

This is outstanding progress in such a short time. Considering so many in the Democratic Party wanted to abolish the Electoral College just a few years ago, now it's possible for a Democratic candidate to lose a state by over a hundred thousand votes, but pick up more delegates than the winner. It also happened in Nevada, if memory serves.

Makes we wonder why the Dems bother with primaries at all. Just let the superdelegates have some secret meetings, and anoint a winner. Wouldn't that be a lot cheaper?

Just tryin' to hep.

Instead of voting for Hillary to stop Obama, "Real Republicans" should be voting for Obama in order to prevent John McCain from having any chance at the Presidency.

Then, it's likely that "Real Republicans" will be so disillusioned by the Obama administration that they will manage to nominate a "Real Republican" in 2012.

That, at least, would give the "Real Republicans" some hope.

For me, however, they will always be
"Surreal Republicans"

Mother Seaton, a hanky in these trying times would be like your finger, or more appropriately, a Cork, in a swelling dyke.

I see by the cut of your jib that a job with the the Times isn't what you have in mind for the HillBillys. There's always the speaker circuit, where the enthralling can meet the enthralled.

Yours,
Dick Shiner:^)

Ms Shiner

As a "swelling dyke", perhaps you should consider calling on Barawkstar Galactobamaca to plug you as no one else could?

HILLARY CAN KISS THE PINK CRACK OF MY BLACK ASS!

"As a "swelling dyke", perhaps you should consider calling on Barawkstar Galactobamaca to plug you as no one else could?"

That was a real Corker.

Hey RightisRight-

I know math can be confusing but let me explain this again. Hillary won the primary vote (2/3) of the delegate allocation by a bit over 100,000 votes, Obama won the conventions (1/3) of the delegate allocaton by more than 200,000 votes-All out in the open....our process, our results, our winner- Obama

These are the times that fry cinnamon rolls.

Now is the time for all aliases and newbies to plan their next beer party.

Or something like that.

A cork, a cork! My "seaton" for a cork!

Mother Seaton: you are confusing me, myself, personally, with your candidate.

I offered up "swelling dyke" on her account. It contains, I believe, the seed of a campaign that may well win a few hearts and minds.

"Come, you simple citizens, and join my crusade against the rising tide of greed and corruption by standing side by side with your brothers and sisters and placing your fingers and your faith in the swelling dyke!"

I know it's kinda wordy, but maybe you can split the hairs and make it work.

So it's official then, Texas doesn't matter

~Hillary Clinton

"maybe you can split the hairs and make it work"

I wouldn't touch that with your Dick, Shiner.

"So it's official then, Texas doesn't matter

~Hillary Clinton"

To clarify - I thought it mattered before it didn't matter.

- Hillary Clinton

"I wouldn't touch that with your Dick, Shiner."

LOL

I wouldn't LET you touch it with my dick, Mother.

As far as the general election is concerned...you're right! No way either of them will carry the Lonestar State

Are you saying Texans are stupid?

Ya really shouldn't do that ya know.

They all own guns and have a lot of pride.

Be Well.

"Are you saying Texans are stupid?"

Nawww, DeadPud...YOU are the one I most often accuse of being stupid. A fat-assed Canadian in Vancouver, obsessed with U.S. elections and politics, who is completely impotent to do a damn thing about the outcomes...HAS to be eaten up with STUPID...LOL.

Bill Clinton said that if Hillary lost either Ohio or Texas it would be over. How about it Bill? Is it over?

I know math can be confusing but let me explain this again. Hillary won the primary vote (2/3) of the delegate allocation by a bit over 100,000 votes, Obama won the conventions (1/3) of the delegate allocaton by more than 200,000 votes-All out in the open....our process, our results, our winner- Obama

Posted by TurnTexasBlue
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You're right--the math is confusing. Especially considering you made up the last part.

It is your process and your results and your winner--no problem there. I'm sure Hillary is disappointed to hear she won Texas by over a hundred thousand votes, yet the Texas caucus members decided to vote differently. That's her problem. But the fact that your election process is such an untransparent abortion is the Dems' problem. And my point about the Electoral College stands: seven years ago the Dems were seeking direct election of the president, while instituting rules that went the opposite way in nominating their own candidates. Nobody even knows what the actual delegate count is; you apparently don't even know how delegates are awarded in the state you live in. So you'll excuse my reluctance to turn over the delivery of my health care to the same retards who can't even get their primary elections right.

Um...ya...RR.I partcipated in the precinct convention, was elected our delegation chair,(10-7 Obama victory) went to our Senatoral district convention saturday, was elected the Obama delegate to the State convention but somehow you are better informed. pssst...btw there where no wmd in Iraq. What exactly did I make up?

Just so you understand-

You get one delegate to the county/senatorial for every 15 dem voters in your precinct- (based upon the last general election turnout- 2006)

My precinct was entitled to 17 delegates based upon that number

172 people attended the precinct convention on the night of march 4th(btw Obama won my precinct 297-225 primary vote)

106 people at the precinct convention supported Obama- (entitling him to 10 of the 17 delegates)

66 people supported Clinton (7 Delegates)

You get one delegate to the state convention based upon 180 dem voters from the prior (2006) election

We had 247 in 06 so we got one state delegate slot.

We went to the Senatorial convention to pick the our one delegate to select to the state. I won the slot to the State convention 10-7.

Yes, how undemocratic. And you know more how?

So you'll excuse my reluctance to turn over the delivery of my health care to the same retards who can't even get their primary elections right.

Posted by rightisright at 2008-04-01 02:29 PM

How about turning your health care over to the same people who manage the military health care program--or the congressional health care program? Or every state employee program. Or every city employee program. Or every county employeee program. How about a health care program based on the French model---#1 in the world? Don't forget, without the assistance of France, we'd still be British. As a citizen, I think the government should pay for my health care program if I have to pay for their health care program. I don't think government employees deserve any more benefits than I get--especially when I'm paying for their benefits. If I have to pay for Mansons health care--I think I should get a little back myself.

"...you apparently don't even know how delegates are awarded in the state you live in.

Posted by rightisright"

Apparently he does.

Kablooie! LOL!

I know math can be confusing but let me explain this again. Hillary won the primary vote (2/3) of the delegate allocation by a bit over 100,000 votes, Obama won the conventions (1/3) of the delegate allocaton by more than 200,000 votes-All out in the open....our process, our results, our winner- Obama

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Please explain how he won the delegate allocation by more than 200,000 votes. Hillary won the primary by 100,000 votes--I saw that for myself on CNN. Did you guys all vote again, with Obama winning the second round by 200,000? Why didn't that make the news?

You get one delegate to the county/senatorial for every 15 dem voters in your precinct- (based upon the last general election turnout- 2006)

My precinct was entitled to 17 delegates based upon that number

172 people attended the precinct convention on the night of march 4th(btw Obama won my precinct 297-225 primary vote)

106 people at the precinct convention supported Obama- (entitling him to 10 of the 17 delegates)

66 people supported Clinton (7 Delegates)

You get one delegate to the state convention based upon 180 dem voters from the prior (2006) election

We had 247 in 06 so we got one state delegate slot.

We went to the Senatorial convention to pick the our one delegate to select to the state. I won the slot to the State convention 10-7.

Yes, how undemocratic. And you know more how?

Posted by TurnTexasBlue
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Hmmm. Yeah. That is Democratic, all right. What was I thinking? Not only does the primary vote not count very much, but you get more representation based on how many people voted in the LAST election!

That's great. Way to take a process that could be very simple (one man, one vote) and make it stupefyingly complicated.

Go Obama!!! Go Dems!!!

Don't forget, without the assistance of France, we'd still be British. As a citizen, I think the government should pay for my health care program if I have to pay for their health care program. I don't think government employees deserve any more benefits than I get--especially when I'm paying for their benefits. If I have to pay for Mansons health care--I think I should get a little back myself.

Posted by Buffalo_Bob
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Fair enough. But without our assistance, the French would be German. So as far as the French and the American Revolution are concerned, thanks, but I think World Wars One and Two, then the Marshall Plan--we're even.

Interesting point on government benefits. Why think small? You pay for their buildings too--should the government pay for your house? You pay for the government's vehicles--should they pay for yours too?

A program like this was tried before, it was called collectivism. Where was it? Hmmm . . . trying to think . . . somewhere in Europe, maybe? Can't remember exactly how it all worked out, though . . .

"Please explain how he won the delegate allocation by more than 200,000 votes. Hillary won the primary by 100,000 votes--I saw that for myself on CNN. Did you guys all vote again, with Obama winning the second round by 200,000? Why didn't that make the news?"

You're not keeping up too well, are you? Read what he said again, s l o w l y.

Hillary won the primary popular vote by 100,000. That vote allocates 2/3 of the delegates. Then about 1,000,000 turned out for the caucus portion. Obama won that by 200,000 votes. She got a few more delegates in the first part, he got a few more in the second part - netting more total than she did.

And it DID make the news... hence the story heading this thread.

"The Texas Democratic Party said Sunday there were an estimated 100,000 convention participants statewide,"

You're confusing convention participants with caucus participants. The caucus participants (about 1,000,000) turned out the evening of the election to elect delegates to the next level, which is the one from last weekend referred to in your quote.

From that meeting the delegates to the state convention were chosen.

There's going to be a hundred thousand at the convention in Texas? Where is it going to be? You guys don't even have a stadium that big.

Just provide a link, please, that says there were a million that showed up to the caucuses. I believe you; I just find it amazing that you had a million people show up for caucus meetings--half as many as showed up to fill out a ballot.

To help clarify - the caucus process goes in 3 stages...

1. Open caucuses at the precinct level on election day chooses delegates
2. Those delegates go to a larger meeting, usually by county or senatorial district, to select delegates to the state convention
3. District delegates go to state convention to select delegates to the national convention

Never mind--I just found it.

Godalmighty. It's even more confusing than I thought. You guys have three rounds of voting there? And they've just now figured out how many delegates each won out of Texas? And THIS is what Texasblue says is "Democratic"?

Well, in a sense he's right. Only the Democrats could've come up with it. It's like the worst ideas from the Enron board meetings, writ large in Texas politics.

Yeah, but Texas doesn't 'really' count anyway ;)

Actually, it's pretty smart way to do it. Since appox 100,000 repugs crossed over to vote for HC. (thanks to the Rush Limbaugh call to disrupt our elections) The precinct convention lessens the impact of those kinds of tactics and true democrats from the grassroots have a way of neutrilzing the effects.

WOW Now I see why there are calls for hrc to quit! How she blew it with such a huge lead and all that money is remarkable. Her supporters are NOT going to be happy with Barack.....

So it all comes down to super delegates; NOT the popular vote.

Gee didn't that cause a ruckus here for 6-7 years. haven't heard THAT quoted recently by the dr left!!!!!

The NeoCon righties here sure are obsessed with the Democrat's primaries.

Anything to deflect from the fact the GOP had total control of the government and did as horrible a job as possible - doubling the size of the federal budget, getting us into a war without end, and borrowing money like no one's business also doubling the national debt.

They're always the first to bitch about 'taxes'.

"As long as we don't have to pay for the gross incompetence of Bush and the GOP we're all good with them"

Hypocrites.

Actually, I like the entertainment. And I'm confident that whichever of the two is more likely to screw things up for the Dems--Obama or Hillary--you'll find a way to nominate him (or her). You can't help yourselves.

Which is why the Dems lurched from one "inevitable candidate" to another, all in the space of a few weeks. Which suggests that the term "inevitable" isn't what I thought it meant.