He tried to kill my daddy!

I thought this was why more obnoxious than the WMDs claim.

Oh now they're just piling on with the lies! I mean, C'Mon, how is Chimpy supposed to keep them all straight?

whom is it that is surprised that the bush group lied?

Lil Bush and Hillary. Lying birds of a feather flock together.

Anyone surprised?

Anyone?

Actually waiting for a righty to state that the Daddy killing memos are with the WMD's in Syria.

I am starting to think that the Saddam fucked Laura Bush in college and fucked her good.

W has never been able to get over it.

No other excuse has panned out thus far.

And isn't that the ultimate irony? Shrub got us into this mess; 4,000 of our finest young men and women are dead in the sands of Iraq, countless Iraqis are dead or displaced, tens of thousands of our young people are permanently physically and/or mentally maimed - and all for LIES.

Yes, yes, yes. Let's keep piling on the blame. Complaining fixes problems. I've seen it. We all have...Katrina is a perfect example of that.

Going to Iraq was a bad idea. A majority of the country sees that now (hindsight is 20/20). Some people don't think it is right to follow up a wrong with another wrong. I am of the opinion that we need to get the hell out, but I understand the humanitarian side of this conflict as well.

How about somebody (on either side) come up with a good way to get out soon while not leaving Iraq in a worse state than when we entered? If that's impossible, we look out for number one and cut our losses.

And pulling funding from our troops is not a good answer.

Hindsight may be 20/20 but it's hard to have foresight with the curtains pulled.

"Hindsight may be 20/20 but it's hard to have foresight with the curtains pulled."

At the time, we had a civilian target recently attacked on our own soil. That was something that had never happened to us. We went into Iraq because we thought they had WMD's and were supplying Al Quida. America was on board (70%) to attack Saddam on that premise. There may have been behind the scene's reasons for Dubya to push so hard, but they had nothing to do with the public sentiment at the time.

I'm just sick of all this bitching about it. Especially from our politicians who have a real opportunity to do something about it, but they would both rather tout it to their constituents for more votes. Politics have grabbed this war by the balls and this nations people are the one's who suffer for it.

"We went into Iraq because we thought they had WMD's and were supplying Al Quida.

Posted by Pinkie at 2008-03-25 05:50 PM"

Hahahahaha! You believe that shit? For real? If so, you are one naive woman.

"We went into Iraq because we thought they had WMD's and were supplying Al Quida.

Leave me out of that equation.

That dog never hunted as far as I was concerned.

and your point is?

I just want to know when the Iraqis are going to start pulling their own weight. We have won. We're just waiting for them to get their shit together. If you throw the fucking horse in the water will it drink?

The Iraqis are going to fuck us over for as long as we let them. How long do you suggest we continue to let them take advantage of us, sniper?

And pulling funding from our troops is not a good answer.

Posted by Pinkie at 2008-03-25 05:17 PM

being an idiot and parroting Rush (the Traitor) Limbaugh is no answer either.

No one has ever threatened to "pull funding" from the troops...funding the Withdrawal is NOT pulling funding for the troops.

Inadequate Armor, delays in getting proper equipment, inadequate health care and stop-loss is underfunding the troops..guess who is responsible for THAT?

a 1993 claim by the Kuwaiti government--

Sort of like those stolen incubators?

Good thing Kuwait is our bestest democratic buddy in the ME outside of Saudistan, or I'd think they were fucking with us just to get America to do their bidding.

Saddam plans to assinate George Bush and doesn't write it down. Can you imagine that.

Now democrats are trying to make hay out of it. Who'd thunk it.

Its not like it is above the democratic party to try and insinuate something for political advantage.

Bee Swell

Are you saying Bush lied to us?
why do you hate America so much?

I don't think Saddam would have wrote down his plans to assasinate Bush either.
Thank you for pointing that out.
I know Bush wanted revenge. There was no other reason to go into Iraq, even if they had WMD. Russia has 15,000 nukes, why not invade them.

Good luck to any army winning any war when no one believes in it.
Bush should have read Sun Tzu's first rule of The Art of War, same with our military commanders.

Yeah Northguy3 just like the Kuwaiti Government declared that Saddam Hussein's Military was dumping babies from Incubators and stealing the incubators. Yeah right. That story was told by a Kuwaiti Ambassadors DAUGHTER. who by the way had never left the United States nor ever lived in Kuwait.

Larry Mohr

Iraq War is about controlling the Oil.

Iraq War is about controlling the Oil.

When do you think that'll actually start happening, Larry? After 5 years one has to wonder.

Hey Goatman we are getting the oil from Iraq. It's just not as much as they would like it to be because of sabotage and the Oil Infrastructure isn't up to par.

Larry Mohr

Hey Goatman we are getting the oil from Iraq. It's just not as much as they would like it to be because of sabotage and the Oil Infrastructure isn't up to par.

We are buying about 1/4 of Iraq's oil output at fair market prices. If we went to war for the oil, shouldn't we be taking all of it instead of buying 1/4 of it?

not as much as they would like Who is "they"? Oil infrastructure not up to par? We can get an "oil infrastructure" in place in the water (much more difficult than on land) in a year. Why don't we have one in place after 5 years in Iraq?

Sorry for the inconvenient truth, Larry.

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Wow. Even less oil coming from Iraq than I though.

Don't get me wrong, Larry. As I've said many times on this blog -- I'm against the Iraq war and I have no idea why we are there. But it's obvious it's not because of the oil. If it was, we'd be taking it by now. We've had plenty of time and certainly the military power to do so.

We are taking it we aren't buying it at fair market price. Why do You think the Iraqis was bitching about no gauges on the Oil Pipelines. Do some research on this Goatman. You too can know the truth.

Larry Mohr

Goatman why haven't the Oil Industry folks been able to get an Oil Infrastructure up to par in Iraq is because Nobody will give people like exxon mobile Shell Chevron insurance for one. 2 they also need to get those Production Sharing Agreements signed before they can move on this. You bet Your bottom Dollar this war is ALL About controlling Iraqs Oil. Hell even Alan Greenspan admitted to it.


Larry Mohr

You didn't provide a link to substantiate your allegation:

We are taking it we aren't buying it at fair market price.

And explain how Iraq is skirting OPEC's pricing structure.

How is the US Government skirting OPEC?? Easy without writen records and no metering gauges on the Oil Pipelines. Even I can figure that one out.

Larry

Easy without writen records and no metering gauges on the Oil Pipelines.

Larry, this is so easy to say. What proof do you have? I want to know the truth, but no offense, I can't tell someone this is true by saying, "a blogger named Larry from Kansas says so". Know what I mean?

Iraq War is about controlling the Oil.

When do you think that'll actually start happening, Larry? After 5 years one has to wonder.

Given that Bush's stratergy of selling the Iraqi oilfields to his buddies got kicked to the curb by al sistani in 2003, it'll take another hundred years.

But it'll be worth it.

its not so much about controlling iraqi oil as driving the price up to make money

follow the money

"Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys.
Look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death!"
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War

the general who wins a battle makes many calculations in his temple ere the battle is fought. The general who loses a battle makes but few calculations beforehand. Thus do many calculations lead to victory, and few calculations to defeat: how much more no calculation at all! It is by attention to this point that I can foresee who is likely to w in or lose.
-Sun Tzu, the Art of War

He who wishes to fight must first count the cost. When you engage in actual fighting, if victory is long in coming, then men's weapons will grow dull and their ardor will be dampened. If you lay siege to a town, you will exhaust your strength. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources of the State will not be equal to the strain. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor dampened, your strength exhausted and your treasure spent, other chieftains will spring up to take advantage of your extremity. Then no man, however wise, will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue... In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns.
-Sun Tzu, the Art of War



2500 years ago this guy was spot on bush's failure

It is only one who is thoroughly acquainted with the evils of war that can thoroughly understand the profitable way of carrying it on.
-Sun Tzu, the Art of War


If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
- Sun Tzu

We cannot enter into alliances until we are acquainted with the designs of our neighbors.
- Sun Tzu

No leader should put troops into the field merely to gratify his own spleen; no leader should fight a battle simply out of pique. But a kingdom that has once been destroyed can never come again into being; nor can the dead ever be brought back to life. Hence the enlightened leader is heedful, and the good leader full of caution.
- Sun Tzu quotes

Spies cannot be usefully employed without a certain intuitive sagacity; (2) They cannot be properly managed without benevolence and straight forwardness; (3) Without subtle ingenuity of mind, one cannot make certain of the truth of their reports; (4) Be subtle! be subtle! and use your spies for every kind of warfare; (5) If a secret piece of news is divulged by a spy before the time is ripe, he must be put to death together with the man to whom the secret was told.
- Sun Tzu quotes

Somebody engage me please! I'm so lonely!
Sincerely,
truthhurts

go back to your bondage porn websites and leave us be assface

"In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns."

But, but, but...then we would have to kill people, destroy buildings and houses. We can't do THAT! We need to talk to our enemies...negotiate...you know, compromise. We have to understand them, practice tolerance, compassion. That way they will come to love us and we'll have peace forever. Obviously, Sun Tzu never had the benefit of leftist-socialist dogma. He was just a rightist war mongerer! No "kinder, gentler" wars for HIM.

"To capture the enemy's entire army is better than to destroy it; to take intact a regiment, a company, or a squad is better than to destroy them. For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the supreme of excellence. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the supreme excellence."
- Sun Tzu quotes


I told you not to be stupid, you moron!

To subdue the enemy without fighting is the supreme excellence.

Another lie from Crotch Fur?

Somebody do a DNA test on "Babs" and this cretin and we'll find out if he really is related or lying about that too.

Another lie from Crotch Fur?

Posted by keith204 at 2008-03-26 11:23 AM | Reply



The comment referred to a 1993 claim by the Kuwaiti government--accepted by the Clinton administration--


Yes Keith, it was Bush that made up that story. Don't let the facts ever get in the way of a good old Bush hatin ok sport?

You guys are a special kind of stupid.