Drudge Retort: Red Meat for Yellow Dogs
Monday, March 24, 2008

A 16-year-old boy in Fayetteville, Ark., has been such a target for bullies over the past four years that his parents have sued. Billy Wolfe's parents sued one of the bullies "and other John Does," and are considering another lawsuit against the Fayetteville School District. "I pray to God every day they don't kill him," said his mother.

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Life sucks, get a helmet.

rob the asshole would give the bullies his lunch money to keep from getting his ass kicked

Let the bullies come out of the wood works and comment.

hey its part of growing up, every kid needs to learn how to take a beating, tis all in good fun.

no harm no foul right.

I hope the kid wins millions from the assholes and their parents.

Billy Wolfe?
Here's an idea, start calling yourself "Bill" as opposed to "Billy", that ought to cut down on some of the beatings.
Also, perhaps if you catch so many ass kickings you should be more aware of your surroundings. It would help cut down on the whole "getting suckered" thing.
Lastly, make sure to call the innocent teachers and kids and tell them to call off before you go to school with dad's shotgun and some pipe bombs.

Just like you see in movies, bullies are only tough til they get drilled. Then they become very friendly.

The many incidents seem to blur together into one protracted assault. When Billy attaches a bully's name to one beating, his mother corrects him. "That was Benny, sweetie," she says. "That was in the eighth grade."



I think I may have found another thing that Bill needs to address...



EP,
Agreed. As corny as those movies are, more often than not even if you fight back and lose you'll at the very least get the kid off your back if not become friends.

Here's an idea, start calling yourself "Bill" as opposed to "Billy", .

Yeah, he can always change his name to Rush if he doesn't think his parents gave him a cool enough name.

Or he can go around and call himself Scooter.

Why don't the parents file police complaints against the kids that hit their son? There is no reason why the school has to be the one to call the police.

Or he can go around and call himself Scooter.

Posted by 726 at 2008-03-24 04:27 PM | Reply |


Yeah, great idea...
He's only getting beat up now, do you want him to get raped too?!?

From your choice of name, what's on your mind is no surprise. Kids deserve to be protected from abuse.

This is not just childhood bullying; it's outrageous, it's assault and battery 1. Parents need to get off their ass, call the cops and then an extremely "bullying" lawyer who will file a $10 million lawsuit against all concerned and the bullying will stop immediately.


From your choice of name, what's on your mind is no surprise. Kids deserve to be protected from abuse.

Posted by midiman at 2008-03-24 04:31 PM | Reply |


Are you directing that at me? If so, what have I said that would indicate this kid doesn't deserve to be protected?
Common sense goes a long way in ending the bullying.
I'll bet there isn't a poster here that didn't have a tormentor or 10.

Kids deserve to be protected from abuse.


What he needs to do, is pick a public spot.... oh I dunno, the school cafeteria and walk up behind one of these assholes and crack him over the head with a chair. No words. No threats. Just crack the fuckers head open. Then set the chair down and go to the principal's office.

It will work wonders.

726,
That's a tad bit extreme and of course highly illegal (because the chair could and probably would severely injure the bully).
If he simply suckered a bully and then humiliated him by pouring food and drink over his head then perhaps I'd agree.

and a school official refusing to call the police, saying it looked like Billy got what he deserved

And this will be the dickhead on television saying he had no idea why Billy would snap and take out fifteen students with a handgun.

I can understand the reluctance to call police on this kind of thing. A large percentage of police officers come from the ranks of the bullies like those beating up this kid.

In my former career, my job responsibilities have been hiring decisions for several hundred new-hires over the past 30 years. I look back with some sense of satisfaction at the fact that I have never knowingly hired anyone I even suspected of having the mentality of a bully. Payback is a bitch and most of these asswipes pay dearly sooner or later.

I was fortunate not to have suffered too badly at the hands of bullies but to this day I never pass up an opportunity for a little payback, whether it is simply denying a loan or shit-canning a job application. I think there are many more people out there like me that have long memories and are in a position to extract a little vengence from time to time.

That's a tad bit extreme and of course highly illegal

Yes, but it does work.

I'm glad his parents are taking the high road, and doing things legally.

I'm not so sure I'd go that route, if it were my child being beaten incesantly, I'd want to find one of the bullies, and make an example of him.

I can only hope the court comes down hard on everyone being sued, so every school in the country gets the message, in no uncertain terms.

I can only hope the court comes down hard on everyone being sued

Me too.

But the beatings will only get worse if he wins in court.

It takes a braining with a chair.

Every kid is going to have a bit of teasing and bullying in school but parents of the child who is the victim need to step in -- and step in hard -- when it goes over the line.

When your kid is physically attacked by more than one other kid at the same time that's over the line. Now the humiliation and abuse of the child goes even further because the bully's attack is put up on the internet to try humiliate the child even more and to show the attack to every other kid who happened not to be there at the time.

Go after the parents of the bullies. Continual daily verbal harrassment and teasing can be just as brutal and detrimental to a child as a physical punch. There needs to be a line drawn -- by parents and school authorities -- and when it's crossed not only the bullies need to be punished (or even thrown out of school) but the parents of the bullies need to know they also will have to pay a price.

Honestly, can any of you say you weren't bullied? I don't think there is a kid alive that wasn't. Unless your bullying was "Billy" severe, then I think you're harboring undue resentment (Axe...).

The kid that bullied you had his own tormentor.

"It began years ago when a boy called the house and asked Billy if he wanted to buy a certain sex toy, heh-heh. Billy told his mother, who informed the boy's mother. The next day the boy showed Billy a list with the names of 20 boys who wanted to beat Billy up."

Mom should have bought the damn thing.

What Billy needs to do is sneak attack one of these punks and beat him senseless, screaming insane shit all the while. One thing teenage kids are afraid of is other kids who are bat shit crazy, and not afraid to draw blood. Not to mention your perspective on life changes immensely when you start wondering if Billy will come flying out of your locker one day with a biology text across your nose.
Slightly off the path...I was in basic with a guy who got the hell beaten out of him...and he deserved it. Two nights later, he waited til the guy was sleeping and hit him with a combat boot, right across the nose. Split his nose wide open. When confronted by this guy...after the guy got out of the clinic the next morning...Danny copped to it and reminded this guy he had to eventually go to sleep again.

It sounds as though this kid was maybe a bit of a slow learner and had a couple of other emotional problems which may have set him up as an easy target for bullying and teasing.

But no matter what his particular problems were it gives no other kid the right to turn this kid into a pinata for their own amusement. His parents -- or the parents of any kid who's being bullied day after day -- have the duty to make sure it's stopped. If their own parents and step up to the plate to defend them then who can these kids turn for help? Apparently not the school authorities it seems.

Also a few of these attacks happened outside of the school location. No kid should have to live a life where he is constantly having to look behind his back to make sure he's not going to be sucker punched every minute. imho.

Chair,

I think of it as kharma coming back on the punks. No sympathy from me.

Besides, from a hiring standpoint, it would be foolish to hire a thug over an equally qualified applicant with a good personality. The last thing any place of employment needs in another bully (except of course the local police department).

I could probably make a good case for denying the occasional loan if I could spare the time.

correction

....If their own parents and step up to the plate to defend them...."

should be

"If their own parents don't step up to the plate to defend them...."

Chair,
You are absolutely right.

"He's only getting beat up now, do you want him to get raped too?!?"

Only if someone videotapes it.

-Muntycore


Chair,
You are absolutely right.

Posted by evilpolock at 2008-03-24 04:55 PM | Reply


Hans,
How do I archive this post!

LOL

"How do I archive this post!"

Got it covered for you.

Just ask me about the time you were absolutely right and it will be there.

Hans

To anyone --

We've all heard about teaching a kid to handle "the school bully" by fighting and then the bully is supposedly going to stop and leave the picked on kid alone from that point on.

But if it were your kid how would you suggest a kid handle the bully situation and physical attacks when it's multiple bullies coming at him from multiple places -- inside and outside of school? I'm curious to see how any of you would suggest handling that kind of situation.

"Chair,
You are absolutely right.


Posted by evilpolock at 2008-03-24 04:55 PM"


Hans,
How do I archive this post!

Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-03-24 04:59



Just get those words tattooed on your fanny.

I can honestly say that I was never bullied as a kid as I was always a big kid - my freshman year I was over 6 ft and about 185 and by my junior year I was 6'4" and 220 lbs. I did enjoy beating the shit out of my little brother's bullies though, if they drew blood. He is smaller and would tell them he was going to get his big brother to which the kids would mock him even more. He would come get me (generally I was playing baseball and he would tag along - I would leave the dugout and go hunt the bastards down) and to see the looks on the kids faces was funny. If no blood was drawn or bones broken, I would simply pick the kids up and throw them in a garbage can or something. They would never fuck with my brother after that.

I can set my own fractures.
I have stiched my own wounds since I was a child.
I pull my own teeth. Regularly file others.
Knew I had cancer 2 years before any doctor(pain meds).
If I am injured to the point of death, there are explicit demands to not use life saving measures, including blood transfusions. At least 7 scull fractures. Double shattered mandable in a bar fight(very painful). 2 heart attacks. Tossed from a moving vehicle twice. Run over by a car or truck 2 times. Whooping cough, measels, mumps(8-9 times),pox. survived a 5.5 grain dose of methaqualone sulphate.
I work 7 days a week, on an average of 4 hrs. sleep a night. I work in -20 to 120 f, year round.
I dont wear watches, because they quit working in a matter of seconds, and are non-repairable. I dont wear any jewelry, as they leave burn marks on my body, if worn more than a few minutes. Most electronic equipment goes berserck when I am present. I can knock a grown man to the ground( static charge)just by shaking his hand. I dont shake many hands.
I stand 5'8" tall, weight of 205, a 31 inch waist, 48-18 shirt. I eat at least 10000 calories, plus 1 pound of chocolate, every day, for at least the last 25-30 years.
I scare doctors.

-Taxman

Me too.

But the beatings will only get worse if he wins in court.

It takes a braining with a chair.

Posted by 726 at 2008-03-24 04:41 PM


I don't think he will be going to that school after winning the lawsuits, he'll have private tutors and be living in a much higher class of neighborhood.

Seriously, I hope they do sue the school as well. My daughter's school has student code of conduct that starts when she walks out the door going to school. They are very serious about bullying, and have seminars all year long on expected behavior.
Kids can, and do, get suspended for agressive behavior on the way to and from school.

FF HANS!

CChris, are you really trying to offend or make fun of Chair by using the word 'FANNY'?

Dude.......

Allow me to assist:

"Chair,
You are absolutely right.

Posted by evilpolock at 2008-03-24 04:55 PM"


Hans,
How do I archive this post!

Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-03-24 04:59


Just get those words tattooed on your mother's crotch, then the whole world can help remind you!

jees......

Roy,

That sounds like a pretty progressive school with an effective policy on bullying. How do they address the not-so-easy aspects of female bullying? Your daughter doesn't have to worry so much about physical aggression but the emotional bullying of other girls can be just as damaging.

...and eventually you've got another columbine on your hands and people wondering what the fuck happened...

I don't know why but there always seems to be a lightening rod for abuse or bullying in all schools...some of it is normal teen dynamics, but at some point, someone has to step in.

For someone like this kid, to "chair" someone from behind will not only get him kicked out of school, the dynamics seem so deeply set that he would probably end up in the hospital, for a long time.

I can set my own fractures.

Nope, I have been to the hospital for every one and cried like a bitch when I broke my hand sliding into second base once.

I have stiched my own wounds since I was a child.

Never had stitches.

I pull my own teeth. Regularly file others.

What kid hasn't pulled his own teeth, and who files their teeth?

Knew I had cancer 2 years before any doctor(pain meds).

I hope I don't have cancer but with my lifestyle, who knows.

If I am injured to the point of death, there are explicit demands to not use life saving measures, including blood transfusions. At least 7 scull fractures.

Fuck that I want to LIVE baby!

Double shattered mandable in a bar fight(very painful).

I was a bouncer and doorman in college actually. Never had anything broken though.

2 heart attacks.

Does really bad heartburn count?

Tossed from a moving vehicle twice.

This is actually true! Except it only happened once. I was drunk and riding passenger in an Isuzu Pup when the driver took a sharp turn and the door flew open and I flew out of the car.

Run over by a car or truck 2 times.

Actually it was a trailer on a hay ride and it was only once. Resulted in a dislocated hip - don't ask.

Whooping cough, measels, mumps(8-9 times),pox.

Chicken pox and only once.

survived a 5.5 grain dose of methaqualone sulphate.

No clude

I work 7 days a week, on an average of 4 hrs. sleep a night.

Only during tax season.

I work in -20 to 120 f, year round.

Nope nice comfy air conditioned office with a great view of the Mississippi River.

I dont wear watches, because they quit working in a matter of seconds, and are non-repairable. I dont wear any jewelry, as they leave burn marks on my body, if worn more than a few minutes.

I only wear my wedding ring.

Most electronic equipment goes berserck when I am present.

Hmmmmm my TV is on the fritz.

I can knock a grown man to the ground( static charge)just by shaking his hand. I dont shake many hands.

I can't do that but couldn't Bruce Lee?

I stand 5'8" tall, weight of 205, a 31 inch waist, 48-18 shirt. I eat at least 10000 calories, plus 1 pound of chocolate, every day, for at least the last 25-30 years.
I scare doctors.


I am actually 6'4" still but a little heavier than 220. I am trying to get back down to playing weight though.


Everything I typed in my first post is true. I could really care less if you believe me or not Joe.

It was a joke, Taxman. That entire post was written by someone else a long time ago and has been ridiculed ever since.

"He's only getting beat up now, do you want him to get raped too?!?"

Only if someone videotapes it.

-Muntycore

Posted by JOE at 2008-03-24 04:58 PM"

What's this, you angry little dick? I hadn't even posted to this thread. You're a fucking obsessive little troll, aren't you Joey?

That was also a joke. Talk about angry. What a whiner. You're sitting in other threads bashing me, but I don't care, because I'm not a whiner.

"That was also a joke. Talk about angry.

Posted by JOE at 2008-03-24 05:48 PM"

It's a fucking stupid joke, dickbag. I understand that you were the school pussy who always got beat up and had your lunch money stolen, but that's no excuse for having such a stupid sense of humor.

Look how bent out of shape this baby is getting. Obviously the joke served its purpose. What a fucking tool.

my mom and my boyfriend tell me I'm the latter.
--Joe
Posted by mOntecOre at 2008-03-24 05:21 PM

What a superior sense of humor you have. Very high-brow, Muntycore.

We were all targets of bullies, what matters is how you handle it.

My Father told to just walk back into school the next day and without a word or warning just punch the biggest fucking bully in the school right in the mouth and keep on punching until they drag you off, then after the suspension, do it again. And tell the cocksucker that every time he sees you he's gonna have to fight you, everytime.

I did it, only got suspended once and the prick never said another word to me until we graduated years later.

"What a superior sense of humor you have. Very high-brow, Muntycore.

Posted by JOE at 2008-03-24 06:09 PM"

Thank you, Brutha. Wish I could return the compliment.

Parents should get off their asses and take Billy to the Dojo. I have seen the transformation in many of my students. they were the ones bullied to only a few years later turning the tables on the bullies. Learning to defend himself will change everything for billy.

I'm not a whiner.

Posted by JOE at 2008-03-24 05:48 PM



I'm not a crook.
Posted by Richard Nixon

I was just kidding in all of my posts. Bill's a cunt and deserves everything he's getting.

PS-Not the bill above my post

Hang in there kid!

High school is NOT LIFE! It gets WAAAAAAY better!

I was just kidding in all of my posts. Bill's a cunt and deserves everything he's getting.

Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-03-24 06:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

You talk all tough, but you're complete pussy.

Hell, even your handle is a lie. You're a total fraud and probably got your ass kicked by girls on a daily basis.

Don't be fooled by the positive spin that the media puts on this story. I'm this kid's neighbor and Billy Wolfe (and his mommy) is the worst kind of bully. Everything that has ever happened to this punk was well deserved. Don't feel sorry for him, feel sorry for everyone that comes in contact with him or his mother.

Billy Wolfe (and his mommy) is the worst kind of bully.

What's so bad about them?


Parents should get off their asses and take Billy to the Dojo.

Posted by messiah


I was waiting for someone to say that. My son had a bully problem in 3rd grade. He already had a few years of Tai Kwan Do under his belt but refused to use it as I've always taught him non-violence. We had a few talks about the difference between agression and self-defense. A week later he threw one round house kick that stopped the bullies forever. It made me proud.

Yea, every kid deserves to get his ass kicked by garbage like these cowards.. Those ass-monkeys that repeatedly beat this kid are just cowardly closet suckers of dick! Billy should use a baseball bat on these wanna be ass lickers, If you "FEEL" for the bullies your just a cowardly asshat also...

Agreed. As corny as those movies are, more often than not even if you fight back and lose you'll at the very least get the kid off your back if not become friends.

Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-03-24 04:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's true. My best friend and I used to be enemies. That shit ended when we both beat the hell out of each other and the teachers kept us apart. Later we became friends in drivers ed, and we've been pals ever since.

As for bully's: the best thing you can do is hurt them when they hurt you. Eventually, if not right away, they will pick an easier target. The problem Billy has, is that he can't fight EVERYONE that fucks with him or he'd be kicked out of school.

So he probably has to just DRILL one kid bad and the rest will stay away. It's so sad that this kid can't go to school to LEARN math and english.

It's no wonder at all why the two kids at columbine shot up the school.

When those pics of the richie rich kids crying "why" hit the news stands part of me wanted to laugh. Because you systematically tried to break down and destroy those unpopular students, that's fucking why. DUH!

I knew kids in high school that would literally try and run others down with their expensive mustangs, and then they wondered why some 'evil bastard' would take a baseball bat to their windows.


rob the asshole would give the bullies his lunch money to keep from getting his ass kicked

Posted by truthhurts


I never had bullies... and I never really saw any... and I never really bullied anyone...

But I guess by today's pussy ass liberal school standards we were all bullies, and we were all bullied... One day it may have been your turn to get your stones busted, the next you were tearing apart some other guy... Its just how High School worked...

But today you get two week suspension for bringing a weapon to school if you have a fork and knife in your bag lunch, or cops and robbers gets you a afternoon detention in sensitivity training...

The kid needs to learn martial arts, Tai-kwando or some other form of self-defense. Take a class or find an instructor. Become confident through the power of using one's mind and body to leverage these assholes' stupidity against themselves. Be able to use moves--hands, body and mind, as deadly weapons. No guns or bombs needed. Lightning mind and moves. I'd love to see this kid able to do some serious face-smashing and bodily injury in self-defense! I hope he finds a champion to teach him to become strong, agile and deadly. I hope he takes out every one of these lowlifes next time he's attacked.

Some of the respondents here are so harsh and cruel in their recommendations and things that they think that this boy should do.

The adults involved are so ill informed and hard in their neglect of their responsibilities to protect children. It is frightening to read their reflection of their own attitudes and therefore their own experiences in growing up unhelped. They surely are men that I or most women would not want in their lives.

Polly

Just give him a gun.

But I guess by today's pussy ass liberal school standards we were all bullies, and we were all bullied... One day it may have been your turn to get your stones busted, the next you were tearing apart some other guy... Its just how High School worked...

But today you get two week suspension for bringing a weapon to school if you have a fork and knife in your bag lunch, or cops and robbers gets you a afternoon detention in sensitivity training...

Posted by Rob_The_A_Hole at 2008-03-24 09:05 PM

I think a pig judt flew out of my ass because I actuallty agree with Wobbie.

It;s the same kind of pussy bullshit lke padding the playground. What the fuck is that? My play ground was hailf on gravel/drygrass and dirt and 1/2 on fresh paved asphalt. Keep in mind this was the mid-late 60's but still, if you did some dumbass thing on the monkey bars or jungle gym and fell and broke your arm, well, it was an accident and over the next few weeks everyone signed your cast, and you learned not to do whatever dumbass thing led you to getting hurt in the first place.

win-Win, no whining, no law suits.

Kids today are pussies.

Everybody has their bully - and their day... Curious though, I remember getting 'pushed' into a fight in HS and decided to be the better man and walk away - about two steps away the guy started talking smack and at that point earned his ass whooping. I took the suspension - along with porkchop and to this day we have an understanding and that was 24+ years ago. Wonder how many times Billy has earned that ass whooping when his parents/educators weren't around - I'm just asking... Sometimes diplomacy is overrated.

Have you ever noticed how hard it is to type stoned?

If life sucks because of idiot kids then rent a friend(free). If able (very much so until recently) I would make it well known that retribution would be at hand. Since this isn't legal it would be anonymous. It would end right there. I promise.

Because of my less than petite size such behavior wasn't ever done to me. I didn't like itt to happen then and even less so now.

The unsaid word-He's just a pussy" is crap. In the growing up stages one same age boy or group can be and usually is much bigger. When an additional handicap is present it is even less acceptable.

As far as moving to avoid bullies? Are you fucking kidding? Some very final end to this situation must be found. Whether legal intervention or whatever, it must end NOW.

The school administrator that said he got what he deserved? Find yourself a new job by the law and consider moving pending his further actions.

I was bullied as a child, relentlessly by one particular girl. When my mother got remarried I found myself with four elder brothers who were all championship boxers who had a punching bag in the cellar. The next time the bitch pushed me up against a wall and threatened me I smacked her so hard in the mouth it knocked out her front teeth (crowns) she never touched me again. I understand bullies, but I also understand that a kid needs to be taught how to stand up to one. Not just to stand back and get beat. His parents have failed him. My guess is they are pacifists who think we can solve problems by "talking" to people. Yeah right.

Litle: you're right, bullies only understand one thing, a hard punch in the mouth.
Humiliate them in front of their "minions."

Rob- But I guess by today's pussy ass liberal school standards we were all bullies, and we were all bullied...

I'll bet there isn't a poster here that didn't have a tormentor or 10.

Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-03-24 04:35 PM | Reply | Flag:


You callin 101 a lib pussy? For shame.

if you did some dumbass thing on the monkey bars or jungle gym and fell and broke your arm, well, it was an accident and over the next few weeks everyone signed your cast,
Posted by briwo



Except if you cracked your skull and became a retard.

Padded playgrounds are a good idea.

Wrong, I disagre, padded playgrounds are the begining of the pussification of America's youth.

And in 12 yrs of public education, I never saw anyone fall on their head and become a retard.

Sounds like a Strawman to me.

I would consider sueing anyone who harrassed me or assaulted me. Age should not be a factor in civilized behaviour. If the bullies parents don't know how to raise decent children, I hope they get sued--lose their house and jobs and have their children taken away and raised by someone who knows how it should be done. Parents like that should be out of the gene pool.

In response to the previous comment yes I'm the guy in the wheelchair but not mentally retarded. Yes that was my cat the he killed, not only that, he picked on me for being the way I am. I have cerebral palsy (CP), I live across the street from the kid, I've been in school with him since 4th grade. There have been too many incidents (bullying) with him, that I could not name all of them. The person who wrote the previous respone is right, most of you don't even know this kid, you've just read the lies that he and his mother are telling. You haven't even heard or listened to Teeter's side or the rest of the people that he's provoked fights with, the list is endless. So before commenting make sure you know both sides (the real bully)

The kid needs to learn martial arts, Tai-kwando or some other form of self-defense. Take a class or find an instructor.

Mr. Miaghi?

I never saw anyone fall on their head and become a retard.

Every one of the kids in school that split their skulls on the playground now vote Republican. Sounds like a pretty convincing arguement for padded playgrounds to me.

Pat Morita is DEAD.

Larry Mohr

Actually I went to grammar school with Billy, he used to set cars on fire in the parking lot, then toss the kindergarden kids into the burning pile of destruction.

One time he used a sniper rifle to pick off the gym teachers as they coached little league softball.

Larry,

I had no idea. Just think how much ass he could kick now as a ghost ninja.

I bet He STILL can kick some ass even if His Body is dead.

Larry

What a pussy. I was the smallest kid in my class in middle school, got picked on every day until I let one fly on the ringleader, broke his fing nose and got suspended.

They never bothered me again until high school when there was another one on the city bus. I headbutted that one.

While he was holding his nose and recovering, I threw his bookbag out the window.

Never bothered me again. Must've really sucked to realize 3 blocks later your books are back where you started being stupid, have to get off, go back then walk 14 blocks.

Of course no one will tell him to do this because they are all politically correct.

No wonder kids shoot up their schools.

No one encourages them to stand up for themselves. My dad would probably get locked up these days.

All they want him to do is fight back. Works every time. If you don't stand up for yourself no one will ever respect you and you will be a punching bag.

-Viz

You talk all tough, but you're complete pussy.

Hell, even your handle is a lie. You're a total fraud and probably got your ass kicked by girls on a daily basis.

POSTED BY COMMONSENSE AT 2008-03-24 07:06 PM | REPLY |

A guy that doesn't get obvious sarcasm (and trolling) and calls himself "Commonsense" actually has the nerve to tell somebody else their handle is a "lie"?
You're worse than my punching bag. I don't even have to seek you out to smack you around.

Chairborne is it true that you got your ass kicked by girls. If they were hot and they were strippers it is ok but if they were fat ghetto girls that is another story

Something doesn't wash here, and I suspect that the writer who brought this story to the public has been very selective in screening out content, and providing nuance.

The statement that the day after "the sex toy incident," a list of 20 kids who wanted to "beat Billie up," materialized, seems inconsistent with "the way things work."

If the story is as depicted, then the parents and Billie are sitting on a load of cash. The remedies might also include restraining orders against kids and their parents.

Just what Billie's "learning disability" is, is not specifically addressed, so that his presentation of himself and interaction with others, cannot really be gauged. The article is a masterpiece of use of omission.

The prvocation of "snitching out" the presenter of the "sex toy," and Billie's parents, and that teen's response, suggests that he was punished or there was some remonstration, indicating that his parents were responsive. So, the reported temerity of the chastised kid in threatening Billie the next day, seems to be quite odd under the circumstances.

This prima facie case in support of Billie, and the recitations of circumstances, do not seem coherent.

Also, the idea that an entire school district, teens, their parents, the teachers, and administrators, would maintain an antagonism just seems uncharacteristic to me. Something about the story stinks, and it is not just the reported mistreatment of Billie. That an editor vetted such an incendiary story and allowed its publication, vague and ambiguous as it is, demonstrates the depths to which the media has fallen. It seems as if the writer is training for political reporting, or is seeking a job with the tabloids. Innuendo and what have you are used to agitate and suggest without definitioin.

Chairborne is it true that you got your ass kicked by girls.

POSTED BY TIMBCI AT 2008-03-25 09:40 AM | REPLY


It is totally untrue, in fact it's just the opposite. Not a day goes by that I don't viciously physically assault a woman. That's just how tough of a man I am.

agreed martial arts is the way to go

even if it doesn't improve the bullying

it will probably boost his self esteem

and is his dad some sort of crybaby...

if my kid was being bullied since a little kid

i would personally teach him at least how to punch instead of just flailing.

and as bas ruten says
"never underestimate a kick to the groin"

one good swift kick to a bullies balls will teach the others that their jewels are in risk.


Parents should get off their asses and take Billy to the Dojo.

Posted by messiah


Amen. In my highschool we had a handful of kids (that I knew of) who studied martial arts. I and a friend studied Kung Fu, and I knew a few others who studied Aikido and Ninjitsu. Nobody messed with us.

I'm in Fayetteville and a couple of your comments caught my attention. To Billy's classmates and neighbors, one of you said that he found a dead cat, the other one said he picked it up on the street. Which is it? Also, are you saying he carried a dead cat in his backpack on the school bus or something?

You're right, no one has heard Teeter's side of the story. What is his side of the story? I mean, he punched Billy right? Did Billy ever hit himi or was it a bunch of trash talking?


i could easily get 200+ kids that either have been bullied by billy or agree with what im saying.

the_truth7


Really? That easily? Please produce said list.


You haven't even heard or listened to Teeter's side or the rest of the people that he's provoked fights with, the list is endless. So before commenting make sure you know both sides (the real bully)

Posted by 4wheeler091


It seems rather suspicious to me that two people who claim to "really" know Billy Wolfe have showed up on a site such as this to refute his and his mother's claims.

Suspicious indeed.

REading this thread reminded me of why I didn't reconsider teaching as a career. Good decision.

A guy that doesn't get obvious sarcasm (and trolling) and calls himself "Commonsense" actually has the nerve to tell somebody else their handle is a "lie"?
You're worse than my punching bag. I don't even have to seek you out to smack you around.

Posted by 101Chairborne at 2008-03-25 09:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

How convenient. It's always 'sarcasm' with you when made to look the fool.

As for the 'smack you around' bullshit, I'll say it again, you're a complete pussy.....and a fraud.

By some of the comments posted, I am surprised at the amount of former bullies who are actually reading this. Billy needs to take evasive action.

1. Get some self defense training.

2. Billy's parents need to get proactive and hold the bullies' parents responsible.

3. Apparently, the school district, especially the ignorant person who said he got what he deserved, need some life coaching and/or to be at the other end of a bullying experience.

I was severly bullied by the 16 yo 7th grader in my class until one day I grew a set and tripped him with his own bodyweight. He's now a crack addicted loser...that says a lot.

When standing in a hole, it's wise to ditch the shovel, Commonsense.

The kids parents seem to have good jobs, I would think they would move their kid to another school. Standing on principle is great when it is your own neck on the line but when it's your kid's....that's not good parenting. This kid will have to live with a sub-standard education and who knows what other psychological problems, his parents ought to get him out of that school.

This is what bullies create:

# James Edward Pough (GMAC massacre, Jacksonville, Florida, June, 1990)
# David Gray (Aramoana massacre (Otago, New Zealand, 13 & 14 November 1990)
# George Jo Hennard (Luby's massacre, Killeen, Texas, 1991)
# Juan Luna (Brown's Chicken massacre, Palatine, Illinois, January 8, 1993)
# Kenneth French, Jr. (North Carolina, USA, 1993)
# Gian Ferri (101 California Street Shootings, San Francisco, CA, July 1, 1993)
# Colin Ferguson (Long Island Railroad Massacre, Long Island, New York, USA, 1994)
# Mattias Flink (Falun, Sweden, killed 7, 1994)
# Baruch Goldstein (Hebron, West Bank 1994)
# Germain Nabeneza (Grande Monte, Runion Island, France, killed 8, 1994)
# Timothy McVeigh (Oklahoma, USA 1995)
# Thomas Hamilton (Dunblane massacre, Dunblane, Scotland, 1996)
# Martin Bryant, killed 35, (Port Arthur massacre, Australia, 1996)
# Michael Carneal (Heath High School shooting, West Paducah, Kentucky, USA, 1997)
# Mohammad Ahman al-Naziri (Sanaa massacre, Sanaa, Yemen, 1997)
# Mitchell Johnson and Andrew Golden (Jonesboro massacre, Jonesboro, Arkansas, 1998)
# Kip Kinkel (Thurston High School shooting, Springfield, Oregon, 1998)
# Matthew Beck (Newington, Connecticut, 1998) (killed five at Connecticut Lottery Headquarters, Newington, Connecticut, 1998)
# Larry Gene Ashbrook (Wedgewood Baptist Church, Fort Worth, Texas, 1999)
# Buford O. Furrow, Jr. (Los Angeles, California, 1999)
# Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold (Columbine High School Massacre, Littleton, Colorado), killed 13, April 20, 1999)
# Byran Uyesugi (Xerox murders, Honolulu, Hawaii, killed 7, November 2, 1999)
# Richard Baumhammers, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, April 28, 2000)
# Michael McDermott (Wakefield Massacre, Edgewater Technologies, Wakefield, Massachusetts, killed 7, December 26, 2000)
# John Taylor and Craig Godineaux (Wendy's massacre, New York City, May 24, 2000)
# Dipendra of Nepal (Nepal, Nepalese royal massacre, killed 9, June 1, 2001)
# Mamoru Takuma (Osaka school massacre, Osaka, Osaka, Japan, killed 8, June 8, 2001)
# Robert Steinhuser (Erfurt massacre, Erfurt, Germany, killed 16, April 26, 2002)
# Richard Durn (Nanterre massacre, Nanterre, France, killed 8, March 26, 2002)
# Jeff Weise (Red Lake High School massacre, Red Lake, Minnesota, killed 9, March 21, 2005)
# Terry Ratzmann (Brookfield, Wisconsin, killed 7, March 12, 2005)
# Kyle Huff (Capitol Hill massacre, Seattle, Washington, killed 6, March 25, 2006)
# Charles Carl Roberts IV (Amish School Shooting, Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania, killed 5, October 2, 2006)
# Sulejman Talovi (Trolley Square shooting, Salt Lake City, Utah, killed 5, February 12, 2007)
# Cho Seung-hui (Virginia Tech Massacre, Blacksburg, Virginia, killed 32, April 16, 2007)
# Nikola Radosavljevic (Jabukovac massacre, Serbia, killed 9, July 27, 2007)
# Tyler Peterson (Crandon, Wisconsin shooting, Crandon, Wisconsin, killed 6, October 7, 2007)
# Pekka-Eric Auvinen (Jokela school shooting, Tuusula, Finland, killed 8, November 7, 2007)
# Robert A. Hawkins (Westroads Mall massacre, Omaha, Nebraska, killed 8, December 5, 2007)
# Matthew J. Murray (2007 Colorado YWAM and New Life shootings, Arvada and Colorado Springs, Colorado, killed 4, December 9, 2007)
# Charles Lee Thornton (Kirkwood City Council shooting, Kirkwood, Missouri, killed 5, February 7, 2008)
# Steven Kazmierczak (Northern Illinois University shooting, DeKalb, Illinois, killed 5, February 14, 2008)
# Alaa Abu Dhein (Mercaz HaRav shooting, Jerusalem, Israel, killed 8, March 6, 2008)

I don't konw anything about a cat being brought to school, but I do suspect that he killed my cat. Also, I have no idea of what took place between Billy and Teeter because I was not there to witness it. I just know what Billy has done to me and my friends. In my opinion he is the bully and I feel sorry for anyone that has/will come in contact with this family. For example...I am in a wheelchair and was riding down the street and Billy and his grandfather drove up behind me and acted like they were going to run over me and honked and then drove off laughing. Because of my CP I am very sensitive to loud noises (which Billy knew). BTW-this is not the first school district Billy has been in...he was previously a student in Rogers and had to move from there because of "bullying". All I am saying is that people need to hear the whole story, not just one side before making judgemental comments.

I'm asking you for the rest of the story. You say you "suspect" that he killed your cat. Is this from what other people have said? Did you see him kill your cat, or hear him say that he did? As far as the honking goes, do you think they were playing a friendly joke or do you think his grandfather was trying to torment you?

Also, a couple people have said that Billy is a bully himself. Do you know firsthand if he has ever physically assaulted anyone that hadn't attacked him first?

And how exactly is it that you post on the Drudge Report during school hours. Spring Break's over ;-).

What kind of inbred teachers are at the Fayetteville school? My kids' local school system has a zero tolerance policy for this kind of bullying. We personally know of two students who have been expelled just in the past year for bullying and punching others.

I know one of the adminstrators who was present at a meeting with one the defectives who they expelled, and whose folks were threatening to sue. He told me that the school superintendent told them "Go ahead and sue us. We'll see you in court in seven years. And you will lose because our anti-bullying policy is iron-clad and clearly communicated to students and parents 3 times a year. Good luck. You get to pay for private school now."

Bullying destroys schools and puts every other kid at risk of a deadly reprisal.

I think the spoofers are being taken seriously.

Something tells me "the_truth7" and "4wheeler091" are full of shit. If they aren't indeed the same person.

BTW - Why the hell would you be riding your wheelchair down a street? Don't they have sidewalks where you live?

Yes, my sister was 8 at the time and Billy was 13, he has phisically assulted her numorous times. You know how 7 or 8 yr olds are, they like to mess with you but I think it's too extreme to hit/punch an 8 yr old for teasing you. As far as the honking goes, he knew that it would startle me, both of them knew. I can't help from being sensitive to loud noises. The reporter that printed that s@*t about fayetteville schools did nothing but print what Billy's mmother thinks of it. She just wants her name in the spotlight, she over exagerates on everything. That reporter got busted hard by the fayetteville schools super intendent the samw day the article was printed. So all of you that don't know Billy don't post anything on this site until you have watched this family on TV. He'll be on the today's show tomorrow, also on CNN tomorrow and at some point they'll be on 20/20. Then you'll see the asses that they are.

One time Billy and me dug a hole looking for treasure. When the hole was about 6 foot deep, Billy pushed me in, without a ramp and covered me up. -4wheeler091

One time, when Billy was suckling on my pee pee, he grabbed by ballies and twisted them. The turned blue and swelled up. I felt bullied...

what the hell was that, anyone with any brains would know I didn't write that sh**

it says posted by dumbsh**

FF - Wis, FF...

I live on the same street as both yougothurt and Billy, and can assure you that Billy is not the victim. There is a difference between being bullied and picking fights - Billy picks fights... and loses. He then comes home to an overprotective mother who sees his black eye or welt, and decides that something must be done; i.e. a lawsuit. Billy is NOT a victim, but rather a provocateur, and Penney is NOT an advocate for justice, but, more simply, an opportunist. Fayetteville Public Schools is NOT a district that takes bullying lightly, and has consistently pursued the allegations brought forth by the Wolfes, resulting in suspensions. Finally, this is NOT speculation. It is an inside account from someone who has lived next-door to the Wolfes for more than five years. In the words of Public Enemy: Don't believe the hype.

Haha. I meant to say 4wheeler091, not yougothurt.

Billy Wolfe is a liar. I myself go to his school, and have gone to school with him for about four years. He brings it onto himself, threatening others with death threats and insulting my own friend's mother, who is deceased.
My personal experience with Billy occured last year during class. He came up to me, and told me for no apparent reason, that he was going to have his [recent] girlfriend's older brother to kill me. He then went to the principal, and blamed me for threatening him. I explained the situation to the principal later on, and Billy was lectured, and let back into school.
Billy Wolfe lies to adults about his badgering others, prevoking them to act upon these threats and insults. As yesterday's article in the New York Times stated, Billy Wolfe gets what is coming to him. He is not a "bully punching bag"... he provokes people to the point of breaking, then whines to his mother and authorities about harrassment, when he himself is the harrasser.

i as well go to billy's school. i've been going to school with him since 4th grade. From the beginning, he's looked for trouble, wether it's picking fights, or killing a handicapped kid's cat (he kicked it in the head). He tried to pick a fight with me in 8th grade, but i shrugged it off. He puts himself in almost every violent situation, by acting tough, pissing people off, and taunting them to fight him. I was personally in the class when he made fun of my friends mother, who died a few years ago, and this was just unacceptable. Although I don't believe that Billy deserves all of the beatings who's he's had, THERE NO EXCUSES FOR MANY OF BILLY'S ACTIONS.

I go to woodland and have had to deal with bullying from billy last year. He is a fucking liar and goes crying to his mom when he loses the fights that he picks. oh and by the way the things that 4wheeler091 is saying are all true and well known among all kids at woodland and fayetteville high.

the truth is emerging i went to wjhs with billy wolfe and he used to bully me, but i just tried to ignore him once he even pushed me into a locker and i hit my head hard. if his mom sues fayetteville public schools we can kiss good bye a new high school.

asdfghjkl, I know your brother, qwerty. Welcome to the DR.

i only made this user name so i could try to tell some truth about billy wolfe so i did not take much time in deciding the name


i only made this user name so i could try to tell some truth about billy wolfe so i did not take much time in deciding the name

Posted by asdfghjk

I hope Billy stoves in your fucking head for your login...oops, it appears he already did.

Wow.

This is the first time I've seen DR's bullies sticking up for the victim of bullies in this story.

Pigs do fly. I'm impressed

:-)

Let me rephrase that.

This is the first time I've sen DR's bullies sticking up for a victim of bullies.

Better...

I'm not going to comment on the bullying aspect of this story.
Nor am I going to comment or speculate on various posters' motives and/or plausibility.
What I will say is this article is shit. This is what counts for journalism these days?

4wheeler091, the_truth7, Truth, sunnyhill18, soccerman16, cowboy92, asdfghjkl, go be transparent somewhere else. Either you're one of the lame ass parents of the kids who beat up Billy Wolfe, or you're one of the kids who's been picking on him. Unfortunately for you, you're not fooling anyone.

In the case of the former, feed your kids better. They're retarded.

In the case of the latter, try not to eat too many more paint chips.

BTW Truth7, where's that fucking list of 200+ kids you promised us? I'm still waiting. Retard.

I'm gonna have to agree with uh, well, stupidjerk. If something like this can honestly garner national attention, then it really makes me wonder about the credibility of other stories in the media I haven't experienced first hand. Listen to the sound clip on nytimes.com. Have you ever been to a middle school restroom and seen thirty guys crowded in there? Also, DDenton, I'm sure that use of the word "retard" qualifies as cyber bullying, so you might want to make sure Truth7 isn't willing to file a lawsuit. I'm sure the Wolfe's attorney would be interested.

Well Sunny, freedom of speech is a funny thing. And yes, you're RETARDED if you expect anyone here to believe that you're not the parent of one of Billy's bullies, or one of his bullies, or associated with them.

It's only SLIGHTLY suspicious that by my count no less that 9 new users, who have never posted on any other thread, suddenly show up to shit on this kid who has obviously been bullied to some extent.

Maybe it's ALSO coincidence that the same story as covered on abcjournal.com has comments with the same style of writing, ending the post with entire capped sentences.

Frankly, I don't give a fuck if you think you're being cyber-bullied. RETARD is by no means the worst you'll see here. If you're going to post on this site, you need to grow some thick skin.

When standing in a hole, it's wise to ditch the shovel, Commonsense.

Posted by JeffJ at 2008-03-25 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm sure that's deep and poignant....somewhere.

Well, D, let me assure I am not a parent nor a bully, and as for your suspicions, after googling "Billy Wolfe", as I'm sure every student within the Fayetteville school district has done in the past few days, the second search result that concerns itself with this issue leads to this site (the first one is to the nytimes site and has no option to leave comments). I agree that freedom of speech is a wonderful thing, but you need to realize that basing an argument off of Barry's editorial is not sound. It's an editorial, and is inherently an opinionated article that will only contain the facts the author wants to present. Even with that in mind, Barry still acknowledges that Billy has been suspended several times for behavioral issues. Do you think that maybe these same problems have been a cause of the "bullying"? If he's rude to superiors, then maybe he's even more disrespectful to his peers. Or maybe everyone in all of Fayetteville (not to mention Rogers, where he had the same problems before) is just "anti-billy"?

I agree with sunnyhill18.
This kid is defiantly an instigator,and Wisgod you can rot in fucking hell for making fun of a handicapped person. He said nothing mean and you had to be a dick.

OOOOK...

so what are the chances that 4 different people who know billy wolfie all found this back water blog?

Do we have a concerted effort here by guilty parties to get ahead of the MSM catapulting the propaganda?

Is it ONE guy making multiple handles?

Or could this be true? ie is Wolfe crying wolf? Don't leave it up to our crack team of US media experts to find out...that is one bit of advice I give gratis.

Maybe we aren't so backwater, after all...this site shows up as sixth when googling "Billy Wolfe"

So it is possible that all these new names are separate people, and indeed, new. My apologies.

How convenient. It's always 'sarcasm' with you when made to look the fool.

As for the 'smack you around' bullshit, I'll say it again, you're a complete pussy.....and a fraud.

Posted by COMMONSENSE at 2008-03-25 12:56 PM | Reply



Let's just agree that I pull your strings, and you dance.

Does the fact that no other rabid (or even moderate) lefty piggybacked your comments strike you as odd? How does it feel to be the dumbest guy in this thread?

As for calling me a pussy and a fraud in every post is concerned, I've told you before, justsomejizz was a complete loser, what does that make a justsomejizz clone? Get some new material dummy.

Billie Wolfe was on the Today Show with his mom this morning. Anyone see it? Details?

Kids who shhot up schools are fucking pussies. Let me tell you how i stopped my bullies from picking on my in high school:

I was never a very big kid. I was kinda like this kid as a freshman, little taller than most and pretty lanky. I had big old "we dont have much money" glasses to boot! EVERY FUCKING day i had to put up with some kinda indignity and it was playing total hell with my self-esteem. So one day the boiling point hit. Literally. I was sitting in gym class just talking with the one girl that WOULD sit and talk with me when out of no where this one bully(bigest of them too) a senior named Blake K**** Threw a god damned basket ball at my face. The coach didnt do shit even through it had broke my glasses and bloodied my nose and given me a black eye. That was it for me. After gym class in the locked room I FUCKING LAID INTO BLAKE WITH STOOL FORM THE COACHES OFFICE 4 times. really hard!!! Everyone was shock, I was crying and screaming for a answer: "WHAT THE FUCK DID I EVER DO TO YOU!!!" Coach asked my what the fuck i thought i was doing, my answer: "Defending my self cause you wont. And if i have to I will find a way to cripple the whole fucking basket ball team asshole." Blake went to the hospital with 3 broken ribs, a fractured wrist and had to have his jaw wired shut for 3 months. I felt good that day, and the bullying stopped. No body gave me any shit anymore. People have to be taught to stand up for themselves in HS, cause lord knows the teachers(well nurses anymore) wont tell you to stand up for yourself.

The school tried to suspend me but to many of my fellow students stood up and said "he had it commin" in so many words and would not come to school for as long as i was suspended. Never knew I had so many friends till i stood up to the fuck hole. His family tried to sue, but they decided not to when we filed a counter suite saying I was basically driven to it through hi unyielding cruelty. and i had more witnesses than he did.

So my advise to Billy: Fucking sucker bunch them bullies with something heavy when they aint looking. And hittem hard enough they stay down and remember it everytime the look in the mirror.

When there are more of them or they are bigger than you sometime who gotta fight Dirty to even the playing field.

Blake never did say he was sorry. I did, but he just walked away. Like i was the asshole. You just cant win with some people.

Hey "truth" yep the kid getting picked on ALWAYS brings it on himself and "lies" to the adults. Fuck please.


Do you think that maybe these same problems have been a cause of the "bullying"? If he's rude to superiors, then maybe he's even more disrespectful to his peers. Or maybe everyone in all of Fayetteville (not to mention Rogers, where he had the same problems before) is just "anti-billy"?

Posted by sunnyhill18


Let me assure you "Sunny", that your assurances mean nothing to me. Since you seem to be trying your hardest to sound knowledgeable on the issue, have you considered that his behavioral issues are the result of the bullying and not the other way around? Any psychologist will tell you that victims of emotional or physical abuse lash out to show or relieve their frustration.

You seem to be trying your hardest to blame the victim here for his beatings, and the motives of those who blame the victim always deserve scrutiny. I've seen the video from the nytimes of one attack mentioned in the article, and even if Billy were dumb enough to say something to provoke the attack, assault is still a crime. Assault in a school is still a crime. The asshat in the yellow t-shirt was the one who threw the first punch.

Never in my 30 years on this earth have I seen so many people come out in defense of bullying, so forgive me if question YOUR motives.

Despite the fact that this kid's story (and this article on this site for that matter) show up in google, it's more than a little odd that now 10 people show up to comment on this, the vast majority using the same poor grammar, lack of punctuation and capitalization, and the same sticky caps lock keys to post their messages, let alone the same placement of those capped sentences.

So forgive me if I still call BULLSHIT. I'm still convinced you're either associated with one of his bullies, or you're a defendant in the case.

101,

Here's the link.

today.msnbc.msn.com

Hey "you got hurt" your list fundamentally flawed.

Some of those shooters wernt in schools, and the Crazy dude in NIU was just that CRAZY not a victim of a bully. You either need to post the coraberating evidence of bullying or stop generalizing that every shooter was bullied. Cause sometimes crazy is just crazy.

Well, I AM Billy, and these posts are 99% BULLSHIT. I NEVER pick on anyone, in fact I'm scared to and I would never fight. And my grandpa can't even drive since he got a DUI, so thats BULLSHIT too. But what's not bullshit is that I am going to have my grandpa drive me to your fucking houses and I'm going to beat the living shit out of every one of you pussies.

Billy

the truth is emerging i went to wjhs with billy wolfe and he used to bully me, but i just tried to ignore him once he even pushed me into a locker and i hit my head hard. if his mom sues fayetteville public schools we can kiss good bye a new high school.

Spud calls shenanigans on that bullshit.

If Billy Wolfe was a bully then there should be some evidence to this effect. The fact that all the video evidence to date points only to Billy being the victim of bullies and not a bully himself is perhaps the best indicator we have that all these stories to the contrary are bullshit. The kind of mentality that lends itself to bullying or supporting or cheering on the actions of a bully is also the type of mentality that supports the illogic that hgte victim bropught the actions on himself. Kinda like a rapist saying "She was asking for it, did you see the way she was dressed?" Spud finds it odd that in an era of tag being illegal on school grounds fer fear of lawsuits that bullying still seems so prevelant. Wot's trhe deal with the moderators at myspace allowing cyberbullying websites to stay up fer any appreciable length of time at all? The admins there had better get their shit together on that issue pronto or they'll likely find themselves liable for damages in cases like the lawsuit being brought on behalf of Billy Wolf.

Bullying is a serious problem that can lead to suicide or massacres. Spud imagines one effective way to stop bullying is to require megalong therapy sessions where the bullies and the bullied are required to talk about the issue until everybody involved is heartily sick of all the downtime. Spend eight hours at a school and then have to go back for another four every night for a week and talk about wot a shithead you are. No movies, no video games. no Hanging out with yer friends just talk talk talk.

At the very least the bullies in question would be off the streets and not bulllying anyone. Kinda sucks fer the bullied person to have to attend but it would still prolly beat getting the shit knocked out him daily.

Just a thought.

Spud had a bully problem back in HS that Deth solved by going loco on some fuckstick trailer trash's skull. A li'l martial arts training can make a huge difference in a young persons self esteem. The kid in question ended up in jail at a rather young age as Spud recalls. That was the first and the last time I ever had to use applied violence to solve my problems.

Mostly Spud can just talk his way out of situations these days.

Use yer words!

If that don't work use yer fists o' fury!

Be Well.

You're going to wish your Dad's would have pulled out early.

-Billy

Na spud talking to a bully only works like 25% of the time. I wholly believe that all bullies just need a good old "blind Siding" like i gave the asshole so many years ago. Bullies really hate being shown up in front of people. I know its not a very "Christian" thing to do but I say wait till the bully is distracted and then POW kick his ass down some stairs (or do like i did and wail his ass with a sturdy wooden Stool from behind.) The key is speak their language and they will listen. Please save me the: Acting like that only makes you a bully pycho lib service job, Its called defending yourself. Someone fucks with you everyday of you life you going to either bottle it up and explode or your going to confront the abuser. I say confront the abuser and make him pay and hard.

Bullies are def to all words of reason.

Real men beat the crap out of bullies. Nothing more fun than knocking one down a peg. Billy says he's got some large friends (Today) so someday one of the bullies is walking alone.....

Why is this question not being raised?

Bullshit, what did HE say to provoke all of this?

Look at him, he was shooting his mouth off.

My son felt he was being bullied. We had a talk one day with the school counselor. My son had this idea that if everyone talked about it and that there a clear school policy like "Zero Tolerance for Bullies!" (he even made a poster). That it would help.

The school had a big meeting to start it off and announced zero tolerance for Bullies and created an anonymous reporting system and a mentoring program and bullying has been reduced 100% in his school.

Everyone recognizes and agrees that bullying is wrong and more and more kids report suspected bullies and they are taken aside and talked to. Bullying is treated as an offense and everyone takes it seriously.

I agree with those that say bullying is like assault and should be treated as such and charges and lawsuits filed when necessary.

I do not agree with those that say one bad act deserves another. That is an immature and Lizard Brain response and only perpetuates the cycle.

I also notice you are the same ones that think the Forever War is Normal and an acceptable first response to aggression from other countries is to kill them back.

Stop using your Lizard Brains and think it through.

Teach your Children.


Your all wrong!!!

For christ sake wake up.

My boy is 10 and if ran around saying shit to other kids and started the prob, then he gets what he gets.

I am telling you he was saying something before they hit him. I want to know what it was..

Your all wrong!!!

For christ sake wake up.

My boy is 10 and if ran around saying shit to other kids and started the prob, then he gets what he gets.

I am telling you he was saying something before they hit him. I want to know what it was..

Seany6969,

If you're truly not the same tool who keeps signing up under new names around here, do you really think your son deserves to get his cheek ripped open by a sucker punch?

Would you want you son to be punched so hard he gets knocked out?

Would you want some stranger to walk up to your son and punch him square in the face at a bus stop?

If you do, I suspect you're living in AK and people in AK are as backward as we think they are.

Regardless of what he did to deserve it, even considering that there's no evidence he provoked any attack?

Personally, I think you're probably a parent of one of the defendants, and a previous poster said, just trying to get out in front of the media coverage to deny what happened.

Nobody deserves physical violence, unless you're perpetrating it and someone is defending themselves. Let's nevermind that assault in any location, at any time, is a crime.

Nope not a tool, but thanks just the same. those are the sort of things that get your lights punched out though. Maybe he called the kid a tool??

P.S just new here today.

AK? I guess that is a backwards state. Regardless of where you live shooting your mouth off is not a good idea. Knowing and respecting your environment helps as well.

Nope not a tool, but thanks just the same. those are the sort of things that get your lights punched out though. Maybe he called the kid a tool??

P.S just new here today.

Posted by seany6969 at 2008-03-26 04:19 PM


Welcome ... now stand by to get reamed...don't take the "insults too personally wwe don't have a zero tolerance for bullies here...see Rob_the _Ahole.. heh!

Have you considered the fact that kids without guidance can be very cruel? For example, what about a child with a learning disability... through no fault of his own he is "different" and is at risk of being laughed at made fun and badgered. It is the responsibility of the adults in the room (very few here apparently) to guide the children into the best response and to try and get them to be empathetic to the other child's situation. It is also incumbent upon the adults to teach the child with the learning disability how to NOT get himself into those types of situations and to prevent bullying from occurring.

No child deserves to be bullied. Each situation is different and is a chance to teach.

Soooo

Teach your children.

Not at all offened. Agreed, however first impressions tell me there are some underlying things going on that have yet to surface.

It takes 2 to tango.


AK? I guess that is a backwards state.


Gee, my bad. AR.


Regardless of where you live shooting your mouth off is not a good idea.


I don't give a shit where you live (although Arkansas is still a hole), assault is still a crime, and words do not justify assault in ANY case.


Knowing and respecting your environment helps as well.


So what exactly are you trying to justify here? Saying he may have deserved a beating because he wasn't paying attention? Didn't see the sucker punch coming?

Please expound. I'm waiting in suspense.

BTW - I noticed you didn't post until 3:30. Take you a while to get home from school?


Not at all offened. Agreed, however first impressions tell me there are some underlying things going on that have yet to surface.

It takes 2 to tango.

Posted by seany6969


Really? Such as? I'm sure you have suggestions...

And this one time at band camp I was sucking Billy's dick and...

And this one time at band camp I was sucking Billy's dick and...


Good one!

And this other time in Billy's basement and me and him and sum other kidz wur playing UNcle Salty and i lost and I had to eat the cracker and it was salty.

This site shows up high on searching for "Everyone hates bully", this all the new users.

The people posting for the first time could easily be ligit, see reason above.

All we have seen is a one sided editorial. We haven't seen any real facts from both sides.

Bullying obviously touches a lot of nerves, but man will a lot of you feel stupid and eating massive crow if it turns out Billy is a pathological liar and his mom is just over protective.


Bullying obviously touches a lot of nerves, but man will a lot of you feel stupid and eating massive crow if it turns out Billy is a pathological liar and his mom is just over protective.

Posted by letsnotjumpto


Well now, that may be the most believable response I've seen so far.

One has to recognize though that given the evidence shown (the nytimes video, the pictures shown on the today show, and the fact that a myspace page was made to pick on Billy...) that said evidence tips in favor of the victim.

The only responses have been "he's a liar, he's the real bully, he's unstable", blah blah blah.

I saw the Today show clip, and he hardly seems unstable, and him mom hardly looks unglued, as one previous poster put it.

Hey Billy, if you happen to stumble on this, give me a shout. I'll make a drive to the other side of the state just to kick those little punk's asses for you! Kind of a Drillbit Taylor kind of thing, only I'll do it pro bono!

Hey DonnerBOY, the time to talk is before the violence becomes physical after the first punch is thrown all that "Lets be civil" shit flies out the window. ESPECIALLY in HS. Its not "lizard Brain" its self preservation. And when the fuck have I EVER given my opinion on "the Forever War?" Please ask for it and i will give it, you may be surprised. Stop assuming shit.



Look at him, he was shooting his mouth off.

- Sean6969

And what the fuck does the "way he looks" have to do with anything? Grow up cause when you get out in the real world people are going to say shit to you all the time you aint gunna like. And some of them are gunna be bigger and meaner than you cold ever dream of being.

And letsnotjumpto, please this free forum by all means throw your side of the story out there, I am ALL EARS. And lets come up woth something more substantive than "He's Lying"

Hey DonnerBOY, the time to talk is before the violence becomes physical after the first punch is thrown all that "Lets be civil" shit flies out the window. ESPECIALLY in HS. Its not "lizard Brain" its self preservation. And when the fuck have I EVER given my opinion on "the Forever War?" Please ask for it and i will give it, you may be surprised. Stop assuming shit.



Look at him, he was shooting his mouth off.

- Sean6969

And what the fuck does the "way he looks" have to do with anything? Grow up cause when you get out in the real world people are going to say shit to you all the time you aint gunna like. And some of them are gunna be bigger and meaner than you cold ever dream of being.

And letsnotjumpto, please this free forum by all means throw your side of the story out there, I am ALL EARS. And lets come up woth something more substantive than "He's Lying"

. Regardless of where you live shooting your mouth off is not a good idea. Knowing and respecting your environment helps as well. - seany6969


Boy you sound as dim as a Compact florescent Light.

"knowing and respecting your environment" sounds like the rational that folks would have used to inform black people that they "better not be round after dark in this here town" back in the 50s and 60s. Welcome to 2008.


Sorry for the DBL post earlier


And letsnotjumpto, please this free forum by all means throw your side of the story out there, I am ALL EARS. And lets come up woth something more substantive than "He's Lying"

Posted by GotTruth


Amen. I still haven't heard a decent excuse for sucker punching anyone.

I have one excuse for a blind side sucker punch: Being bullied. Thats about it.

funny thing is, billy was often an instigator and picked fights with others. not so much that he was being harrassed but that when those certain people that he picked on himself fought back he went crying about being bullied. this whole case is a load of rubbish

And when the fuck have I EVER given my opinion on "the Forever War?" Please ask for it and i will give it, you may be surprised. Stop assuming shit.



Look at him, he was shooting his mouth off.

- Sean6969




Well I wasn't referring to you then... I suppose I should have said MOST of you people (Who were thinking with their LIZARD BRAINS)...to be more precise.

so, perhaps, I am not really assuming anything about YOU in particular... your belief in that department remains to be seen.

But, I was making an association with those that do think with their LIZARD BRAIN also tend think that they can solve things with WAR too (this being a POLITICAL BLOG.

Which is why if we can teach our children how to handle Conflict and proper Conflict Resolution techniques these situations can usually be resolved without the aggression of the LIZARD BRAIN.

So again,

Teach your Children (to NOT rely on the Lizard Brain)

And this one time when the shop teacher was doing bum-sex on me, and Billy was standing over there across the woodworking class, with a 8-inch coping saw in his hand, just kinda watchin'. Yeah, just kinda watchin'.

What?

Gondi and the Dali Lama both have openly stated that when met with immediate physical violence with no way to avoid it one must act in the interest of self preservation. Even if it means harming another human. Pacifism doesnt mean standing by and letting yourself be beaten or killed.
I do get where your going with the Lizard brain and
War thing. I just get a little short when it comes to bullies having had to take back my own dignity from them in HS.
Do everything you can to talk thing out but the time to talk is done when they start throwing punches, you better swing back. Unless you dont mind getting the crap beat outta yourself. I honestly do not like violence and try to avoid it when ever possible. Push comes to shove you know.

Pacifism doesnt mean standing by and letting yourself be beaten or killed.

~GotTruth

Self defense is neccessary at times, so in that sense GotTruth is correct.

Teach your Children (to NOT rely on the Lizard Brain)

~DonnerBoy

Using words intead of fists and utilising the resources available within a community/ school to make sure things do not go from bad to worse by running an effective anti-bullying campaign is obviously the preferred course in the long term.

Ergo DB is also right.

The individual on this blog pretending to be a whole raft of new posters and accusing Billy Wolfe of being a bully and a pathological liar with an over-protective mother w/o any proof is wrong as far as the evidence to date tells us.

Spud calls BULLySHIT on that action.

Teach yer children well.

Be Well.

Do everything you can to talk thing out but the time to talk is done when they start throwing punches, you better swing back. Unless you dont mind getting the crap beat outta yourself.

When you are being assaulted then you always have the right to defend yourself. You don't need to use much of your higher brain to know that. But, after any incident like THAT I would expect charges to be filed. THAT is not bullying that is assault.

My former Sensei would have been very angry with us if we told him we were in a fight and even kicked the guys ass with our awesome Karate Powers. He always preached that we were learning karate for the discipline and for self protection but the ultimate challenge was, and you were held in the highest regard if, you were a Black Belt and you were able to WALK AWAY from all fights on the "street".

I never made it to Black Belt but, I made it far enough to know that someday I could kill someone with those skills. And to learn that the discipline began way before the fight.

First of all i have seen this kid/witnessed a fight first hand. I am in the grade below him there is really only one side to this story and it's that Billy is the bully.

Ever since i have been old enough to remember in school billy was always the jerk to the older kids for example he started every single fight he has gotten into or started it by making a comment or something to throw the other person off.

THIS IS ALL TOTAL BULLSHIT.

Billy wolfe your a liar.

THIS IS ALL TOTAL BULLSHIT

~Billylies
~se4ny6969
~Nyteryder79
~Dudemanbro
~Letsnotjumpto
~Sunnyhill18
~Stupidjerk

At least seven new nom de blogs all preaching the same message none of which is backed up by any proof. How many others are assuming this is all the same individual with a grudge against the kid in question? Considering the number of times Billy Wolfe has been caught on tape being bullied why isn't there even one instance of Billy being the bully caught on tape if this is the case?

Only question in Spud's head is whether or not this is one or two individuals and whether we're talkin talking fellow students or adults afraid of the liability aspect affecting their local school. Spud's first instinct is that this is a kid not an adult but because the story originates from Arkansas it's kinda hard to tell.

/Yes, that's a diss aimed at Arkansas.
//You morons were stupid enuff to vote fer Helldawg so yer collective intelligence is rather suspect.

Be Well.

BillyLies, I dont believe you. You offer hearsay and conjecture, neither will win in a court battle. Billy has hard video evidence on his side, that will win. So you need to either come up with something tangible or stop the charade. We have several cell phone vids you have nothing. If you kids down there "bumblescum" or what ever the town is cant take a little smack talk you have a whole list of issues to work through. Just because some one is a smart mouth DOES NOT give you cause to beat him up. I will be amazed if your HS grad rate is over 50%.

I always prefer Tea Kwon DO to Karate. Prolly just a personal opinion cause that what my parents signed me up for after my locker room beat down of my bully. Boy were they pissed at me. Not that I did it, but lets just say they didnt like method. :)

"~Billylies
~se4ny6969
~Nyteryder79
~Dudemanbro
~Letsnotjumpto
~Sunnyhill18
~Stupidjerk"


Does this website have a moderator? Or is the moderator on vacation? Just wondering.

OK OK OK this is going to be fucking hilarious.

here is the article:
blog.simplejustice.us

and here are the highlights:

"It began years ago when a boy called the house and asked Billy if he wanted to buy a certain sex toy, heh-heh. Billy told his mother, who informed the boy's mother. The next day the boy showed Billy a list with the names of 20 boys who wanted to beat Billy up."

"Things got worse. At Woodland Junior High School, some boys in a wood shop class goaded a bigger boy into believing that Billy had been talking trash about his mother. Billy, busy building a miniature house, didn't see it coming: the boy hit him so hard in the left cheek that he briefly lost consciousness."

"Ms. Wolfe remembers the family dentist sewing up the inside of Billy's cheek, and a school official refusing to call the police, saying it looked like Billy got what he deserved. Most of all, she remembers the sight of her son."

"Not long after, a boy on the school bus pummeled Billy, but somehow Billy was the one suspended, despite his pleas that the bus's security camera would prove his innocence. Days later, Ms. Wolfe recalls, the principal summoned her, presented a box of tissues, and played the bus video that clearly showed Billy was telling the truth."

more to come. Here some advice to the bullies. Dont fuck witha blogger who has nothing but time to burn.

check this shit out

www.fayettevilleflyer.com

a fun little fact un reported til now


A decade ago a Fayetteville student was mercilessly harassed and beaten for being gay.

In ninth grade, a couple of the same boys started a Facebook page called "Every One That Hates Billy Wolfe." It featured a photograph of Billy's face superimposed over a likeness of Peter Pan, and provided this description of its purpose: "There is no reason anyone should like billy he's a little bitch. And a homosexual that NO ONE LIKES." this just keeps getting better

According to Alan Wilbourn, a spokesman for the school district, the principal notified the parents of the students involved after Ms. Wolfe complained, and the parents -- whom he described as "horrified" -- took steps to have the page taken down.
Not long afterward, a student in Spanish class punched Billy so hard that when he came to, his braces were caught on the inside of his cheek.

Good responses GT. Unfortunately, it's past their bedtime.

Spud,

By my count, that's atleast 12 new users in the past 3 days, atleast 10 of which have the same shitty grammar skills. Money says it's the same little bastards that set up the myspace page.

How many others are assuming this is all the same individual with a grudge against the kid in question?

Spsud: Do you think these posters are kids that went to school with Billy? Is that what you are saying? I would guess it very well could be judging by the content, but the DR isn't exactly a landing pad for the acne crowd.

Interesting.

Spud,

By my count, that's at least 12 new users in the past 3 days, at least 10 of which have the same shitty grammar skills. Money says it's the same little bastards that set up the myspace page.


~DDenton

Pretty much Spud's take on the deal. Possibly even one of their parents as well. Finally having it sink in that their loathsome actions will have real consequences that will affect their schools ability to do nice things fer 'em, methinks.

Spud: Do you think these posters are kids that went to school with Billy? Is that what you are saying? I would guess it very well could be judging by the content, but the DR isn't exactly a landing pad for the acne crowd.

~Goatman

If you google the words "Billy Wolfe" you'll find that the DR link comes up pretty quick so it's not so hard to imagine that these li'l wankstains are the same shitheels who set up the myspace page and tormented the kid who know how to use "teh google".

The total inability to write a comprehensible sentence or even spell correctly provide a high liklihood that they actually are from Arkansas, anyway. ^_^

Hey, Goat are you following the Medellin case in Texas wot Spud just put up a thread on? Spud would appreciate yer thoughts on ther matter. Tis a weird one.

Be Well.

Does this website have a moderator? Or is the moderator on vacation? Just wondering.

Posted by nullifidian at 2008-03-26 09:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

He doesn't care anymore.

DDenton, Make fun of arkansas' school system as much as you want, you're still the dumbass that couldn't abbreviate the state's name.

"For whatever reason -- bullying, learning disabilities or lack of interest -- his grades are poor. Some teachers think he's a sweet kid; others think he is easily distracted, occasionally disruptive, even disrespectful. He has received a few suspensions for misbehavior, though none for bullying."

GT, let's not forget this bit of information that hints to another side of the story. Don't assume this is a result of the "bullying". He has had these same problems since he entered the school district at McNair. And as for those suspenions: this isn't a distric that suspends arbitrarily, but only for legitimate reasons. Most importantly, this is a FUCKING opinion column and is going to present only the facts that the author wants to.

"I'd put white-out on them," he says. "And if the page didn't have stuff to learn, I'd rip it out."

He has poor grades and really cares about what there is to learn?

Anybody who says this kid and his mom aren't trying to bank on this:

"Wolfe seeks damages for medical expenses, mutilation, impaired physical and mental abilities, pain and suffering, mental anguish, punitive damages, attorneys fees, court costs and other relief."- NWA Times

Seems a bit extensive if all he really wants to do is "'to get kids to leave me alone and stop bullying me.'"

And why would you include something like this in an interview, unless money was a clear goal?:

"Doss said the column resulted in his client receiving monetary pledges from people who support his cause."- NWA Times

I go to FHS and what the media is not picking up is poor little Billy runs his mouth and then throws a punch and gets his ass beat. There is not a single thing that has happened to him that he has not brought on himself. His parents have tried to file criminal charges but been unable to because THERE IS NO CASE! I am in his American history class and the only "anti-billy sentiment" in there was someone wrote "Billy is a fag" once. The bigger boy who was convinced that Billy said something about his mother by other people is actually smaller than him and Billy told him to his face that his recently deceased mother is a "Fucking Nazi". I really do not appreciate the reputation of my school being tarnished because he is whining about a problem that does not exist. He is the perfect example of Newton's Law #3-For every action there is a reaction. If you run your mouth you will get your ass kicked. FHS does not have a bullying problem.

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/Spud watches vid clip.

Uh-huh... and? A couple of kids who don't know Billy Wolfe personally saying that the buzz around the school is that BW is really the troublemaker? Dude, do you know wot mob mentality is? Cos yer a victim of it. The other kid saying that after this incident BW'll lose any friends he still had and prolly get beaten up for it was particularily hilarious. Then the Junior Einstein went to say that he hoped that that didn't happen cos it would just prove Billy right.

Whaaa?! That was absolutely mindfuck ignorant and the kid sez it w/o a hint of irony.

Wow, just wow.

Spud knows that some places put fluoride in the water

...does Fayetteville put liquid stupid in theirs?

S'rsly, dude, that only proved that teenagers were largely moronic, mob mentalitied, clones awash with testostosterone and too much concern over wot other people think.

....And Spud already knew this.

Here's the deal, kidlet, if Billy boy is indeed a big bad bully in sheep's clothing ithen t should be relatively easy to get proof of this allegation on tape, w/o proof you not only have no case but ya look like an asshole.

Thanx fer playing.

Be Well.


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Posted by asdfghjkl


Since you're in high school, and could possibly have a learning disability, I'd like to point your attention to the fact that the kids interviewed said "people say...", "I've heard...", "they say...".

That's hearsay, and us ADULTS know what flies around high schools, and those rumors are usually bullshit.

Get a fucking clue, and move to a different state and get a better education. Or at least go to a school that doesn't promote bullying by doing nothing to stop it.

Dont know what was better, the gang tags on the yelow sign or the Scumm bag caveman kid how says "I hope he doesnt come back. Cause if he does, (pause) Hes not gunna have any fun" Like he was before? And i also love how now one could give a first had account, just alot of "well i hear", or "I've heard". LOL. They are pure class in HateVile AR.

"~Billylies
~se4ny6969
~Nyteryder79
~Dudemanbro
~Letsnotjumpto
~Sunnyhill18
~Stupidjerk"


At first you guys were amusing now you just come off as sad excesses of humanity. Please go drag your knuckles some where else.

"THIS IS ALL TOTAL BULLSHIT"
(attributed to:)
~Billylies
~se4ny6969
~Nyteryder79
~Dudemanbro
~Letsnotjumpto
~Sunnyhill18
~Stupidjerk
Posted by DETHSPUD

I didn't say this story was bullshit...
I only implied that the "journalism" involved was.

I would love to learn in another state, Denton. It's just that AK is so far away from everything else. And I love the tundra.

Get a fucking clue. You're all basing you're arguments off of a piece of opinionated journalism. Are you really going to take that as the whole truth? "Heh-heh...anti-billy...billy moment". The fact that these words even found their way into an article is enough to make somebody question its credibility.

Wow, to all of you who are insisting that this story is overblown, biased, dead wrong and that it is Billy's who's at fault, he's the bully... ad infinitum

It comes down to two points, folks:

1) Bullying, physical harassment, verbal abuse, unprovoked attacks, hate websites, or witnessing any of the above are simply wrong, unacceptable, and may even rise to the level of criminal acts. No "he/she asked for it", "had it coming", "talking smack", or accusations based on rumor or hearsay. This goes for anyone, even Billy. It's the school's job to thoroughly investigate and to take appropriate action-- which apparently hasn't ever happened.

2) There is overwhelming evidence to support the contention that it is Billy who is being bullied. Now, if anyone has any shred of evidence, eye witness accounts or have themselves been personally assaulted, I think everyone on this blog would agree that absolutely they should be heard. Either they never came forward before, or again schools officials never did their job to fully investigate.

Because this whole situation has been ignored for years, it's come down to a lawsuit. Both sides are now going to have to present their cases under oath and using rules of evidence.

Everyone involved who took matters into their own hands or stood by and said or did nothing are guilty. Period.

Anyone from either perspective who just wants to point fingers or whine about this case should contact the lawyers for either side.

I FEEL SORRY FOR BILLY BUT I ALSO FEEL SORRY FOR ALL THESE HEARTLESS KIDS THAT ARE GROWING UP SO MEAN AND HATEFUL. ITS SAD WHAT THE WORLD IS TURNING INTO. MEAN KIDS WITH PARENTS THAT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT. IF MY KIDS WERE BEATING ON OTHER KIDS I WOULD BE THINKING THEY NEEDED SOME KIND OF MENTAL HELP..... I WOULD SEE THAT THEY GOT IT TO. BUT IF SOME KIDS WERE BEATING ON MY KIDS ID BE MEETING THERE MOM EVERYDAY, AND ID STOMP THE SHIT OUT OF HER AND TELL HER THAT EVERYTIME HER KID TOUCHED MINE SHED GET IT AGAIN.THEN SHED KNOW HOW THE KID GETTING BEAT UP FELT AND MAYBE TRY TO CONTROL HER KID.... BILLYS MOM SHOULD TRY IT BECAUSE IT WORKS... THESE MEAN HATEFUL KIDS ARE THE KIDS THAT CAUSE THE SHOOTINGS IN SCHOOLS, AND USUALLY KIDS THAT DONT BOTHER ANYONE GET IN THE CROSS FIRE AND LOSE THERE LIFE. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND AND ALL THESE MEAN KIDS WILL GROW UP AND MAY HAVE A CHILD THAT GETS BULLIED AND BEAT ON AND WILL LOOK BACK AND WISH THEY HAD THOUGHT ABOUT BILLYS FEELINGS. IT SEEMS SIMPLE ENOUGH TO STAY AWAY FROM BILLY IF THEY DONT LIKE HIM, AND JUST LEAVE HIM ALONE. I FEEL SORRY FOR THESE HATEFUL SMARTASS LITTLE PUNKS ON JUDGEMENT DAY, IT COULD COME SOONER THAN WE THINK. GOD CANT BELIEVE WHAT HE SEES IN THIS CRUEL WORLD, I CANT EITHER.

I AGREE 100% SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE TO STOP THIS KIND OF CRAP... KIDS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO FEAR GOING TO SCHOOL AND THE SCHOOL SHOULD TAKE ACTION AGAINST KIDS THAT BULLY OTHER KIDS AT SCHOOL. AND THE PARENTS OF THESE BULLIES SHOULD TRY TO TEACH THEM WHAT THERE DOING IS SO SO WRONG AND CRUEL.

Err, 1997vette, do think you could you say it a little louder? I couldn't quite HEAR you.

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